Is KD Underappreciated As An All-Time Great? | TICKET & THE TRUTH

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2 ай бұрын

Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce have an honest conversation on how the basketball community views Kevin Durant within the annals of NBA history. Where does KD rank as an all-time great for you?
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@ladjikourouma6475
@ladjikourouma6475 2 ай бұрын
KG a real one he was speaking nothing but facts
@brownfromwaaaayyyydowntown
@brownfromwaaaayyyydowntown 2 ай бұрын
i’m with kg on this
@richflow1799
@richflow1799 2 ай бұрын
Pierce is right, I've been saying it for years. He is one of the greatest, but if his team doesn't do well people have a bunch of excuses. If LeBron, or even Curry, led team don't do well people say it's their faults.
@drosims7993
@drosims7993 2 ай бұрын
False.,nobody was blaming curry when they were the worse team in the league had injuries and they were last in the west.....ppl KEPT saying "klay and drayond injured" so pleaae stop that cap
@richflow1799
@richflow1799 2 ай бұрын
@drosims7993 they lose in finals cause KD and Klay go down. Next year KD leaves, all 3 (Klay, Curry, Draymond) were injured at one point. Next year curry had crazy numbers but lose in play ins. Next year they win a chip. The whole time they saying Curry won't win again with KD. KD since those finals hasn't been out the first round (give him 1 year of grace for his injury too)... If Curry hadn't been out the first round since 2019 they would be eating him alive. Lebron went to 8 straight, move to LA got a groin imjury and they started bashing immediately. Saying father time is undefeated. Then he won the next year. KD is of their same caliber but don't get the same level of criticism. Even without Beal, him and D Book should be able to get to the conference finals this year. If not it's another failure.
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 2 ай бұрын
​@@drosims7993Facts
@_KITE
@_KITE 2 ай бұрын
KD is the only player who I can think of that tore an Achilles and came back and balled like it never even happened.
@triggatre777
@triggatre777 2 ай бұрын
Him and Dominque are the only ones
@Mizzyswag24
@Mizzyswag24 10 күн бұрын
Kobe …
@CoolTy23
@CoolTy23 2 ай бұрын
KD hasn’t made the conference finals since 2019! How are we holding him accountable?
@krishonswinton3056
@krishonswinton3056 2 ай бұрын
That's a fact
@Lildirt15
@Lildirt15 2 ай бұрын
We are but not without context i don’t think any other player do better than what kd did in his situations he was available his co stars wasn’t for various reasons out of his control
@CoolTy23
@CoolTy23 2 ай бұрын
@@Lildirt15 EXCUSES
@Lildirt15
@Lildirt15 2 ай бұрын
@@CoolTy23it’s facts lol what player do you put in kd situations and they win with everything that went on with kyrie Ben Simmons even the suns last year with Paul getting hurt and ayton even this year he played more games than book and Beal
@Lildirt15
@Lildirt15 2 ай бұрын
@@CoolTy23he is doing his part been doing it those are facts not excuses
@AnthrLvl
@AnthrLvl 2 ай бұрын
I see both point of views and it's good to have that counteractions it's real debation.
@NickScott86
@NickScott86 2 ай бұрын
IMO, Durant, Steph, and LeBron have defined the last two decades of basketball and are top 10 all time. Of the three, the media definitely likes to portray KD as the villain and are slower to give props over LeBron and Steph who they don't seem to blame for being on losing teams. But whatever, I would have LOVED to see prime KD+KG on a team!
@SeanJones-mx9br
@SeanJones-mx9br 2 ай бұрын
I wish they could have been able to keep CP.
@olaf6529
@olaf6529 2 ай бұрын
kd aint want him
@kavishkalakshan3146
@kavishkalakshan3146 2 ай бұрын
Shoutout to Paul pierce man. Dude always high on the show in great vibes
@smackd1870
@smackd1870 2 ай бұрын
KD is very underappreciated. Legend.
@coreydemings3638
@coreydemings3638 2 ай бұрын
However you wanna slice it, there is always an issue with a KD led team. The only time he won was when he didn’t lead aka golden state.
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 2 ай бұрын
He got 2 FMVPs. Cut the BS.
@kaydee1485
@kaydee1485 2 ай бұрын
KD don't lead in the conventional sense anyway. He's just the best player on whatever team he's on for the most part. He just hoops, and that's alright because everyone knows. If your putting more on him than he's displayed, that's on you.
@phonefamoustv7930
@phonefamoustv7930 2 ай бұрын
Kevin Garnett is a perfect example of how KD is not held to the same standard as Lebron. KD has Kevin Booker and Bradley Beal and he's up hear talkin' about "they ain't got no point guard, that's very important!!!'. C'mon bro. Lebron, Wade and Bosh ain't have no point guard, cut it out.
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 2 ай бұрын
Beal & Booker ain't even played half of their games this season.
@phonefamoustv7930
@phonefamoustv7930 2 ай бұрын
@@melvinhhcp3615 When Lebron lose in the finals nobody cares about who was hurt during the Finals. It's 4-6. Keep that same energy for KD.
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 2 ай бұрын
@@phonefamoustv7930 In that case, lbj still got 3x more Finals losses than KD, even though KD tore his achilles & only played 12 mins in the whole series.
@phonefamoustv7930
@phonefamoustv7930 2 ай бұрын
@@melvinhhcp3615 what you tryna say? KD is better than Lebron?
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 2 ай бұрын
@@phonefamoustv7930 He is. Lbj just played on lots more superteams, in the east, and had teammates that showed up.
@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749
@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749 2 ай бұрын
Pierce was spot on about KD. Dude has failed multiple times in his career. But KDiva fanboys like KG always dismiss the coward like moves & failures hes had throighout his career. If it was Lebron they would never let it down. Only further Pierce point.
@smithbucky2612
@smithbucky2612 2 ай бұрын
​@@Jp2timezz Colonizer & 🦝 logic you have 😂
@damvp4
@damvp4 2 ай бұрын
Lol we know what type of nba viewer you are
@kfmeighty9
@kfmeighty9 2 ай бұрын
He lost in the conference finals 3 times.
@ladjikourouma6475
@ladjikourouma6475 2 ай бұрын
Whoever wrote this is the dumbest person on earth and you shouldn’t be able to watch basketball. You clearly don’t know what your talking about
@kaydee1485
@kaydee1485 2 ай бұрын
KD has always been a hooper, he's never been the guy to lead but he's not a follower either in the conventional sense in both realms. He's just him, all he cares about is playing ball he enjoys.
@khaliqsantos9055
@khaliqsantos9055 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely not. Joining arguably the best team in NBA history where even a 30% of KDs ability would have put GSW over; sounds like playing a video game on God Mode. No thrill, no real accomplishment
@MrUnpredictable187
@MrUnpredictable187 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying what Paul Pierce has been saying for years finally somebody said it! The media is certain analyst like SAS DON’T HOLD KEVIN DURANT ACCOUNTABLE AT THE SAME LEVEL. THEY HOLD LEBRON JAMES ACCOUNTABLE, AND STEPH CURRY. THEY ALWAYS MAKE EXCUSES FOR HIM!
@elbowgang9715
@elbowgang9715 2 ай бұрын
What has Steph EVER been accountable for? Draymond runs that team,not him
@taythelord7113
@taythelord7113 2 ай бұрын
You don’t know ball they literally blame him for Brooklyn when he was the most available
@MrUnpredictable187
@MrUnpredictable187 2 ай бұрын
@@taythelord7113 i don’t know ball lol? They mainly blamed Kyrie yeah, Kevin Durant got blind, but still not on the same level as they would blame a LeBron James shut ya goofy asss up
@MrUnpredictable187
@MrUnpredictable187 2 ай бұрын
@@elbowgang9715 they hold Steph Curry accountable, by his leadership, etc. They hold him accountable for a lot.
@mzilber1
@mzilber1 2 ай бұрын
@@elbowgang9715 wdym Steph Curry, with his mad off ball movement and shooting ability doesn’t run this team? Everything the team does revolves around Curry. Even when he’s not out there they are trying to mimic the same plays and actions.
@theblinkerx
@theblinkerx 2 ай бұрын
Most basketball fans have him in their top 15 of all time. Hes not under appreciated, if anything he gets to lie under the radar of expectations because of Lebron
@slicks1175
@slicks1175 2 ай бұрын
KD was never the “chosen one”so his expectations weren’t the same as Lebron
@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749
@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749 2 ай бұрын
​@@slicks1175 Dumb logic. You weirdos were attempting to put him on the same level for awhile. Selective memory is crazy
@slicks1175
@slicks1175 2 ай бұрын
@@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749 okay kid lol
@wavegod9394
@wavegod9394 2 ай бұрын
​@@slicks1175 lol he made you look dumb
@TheGreatWesternTrendkill
@TheGreatWesternTrendkill 2 ай бұрын
way too high
@BIGO916
@BIGO916 2 ай бұрын
AND KD RAPPING SKILLS ARE SOLID.
@juswolf22
@juswolf22 2 ай бұрын
Kd messed him self up when he went to the warrior
@avon2alpha676
@avon2alpha676 2 ай бұрын
And this is what they talking about, so nobody else can leave a team? Dame, Harden, Lebron, etc etc. Don’t leave out GSW recruited KD and he outperforms all of them. When he got injured GSW lost that year.
@juswolf22
@juswolf22 2 ай бұрын
@@avon2alpha676 lol you think those players leaving are equal to Durant
@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749
@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749 2 ай бұрын
​@@avon2alpha676 You're delusional
@drosims7993
@drosims7993 2 ай бұрын
So you basically saying you are underappreciating b he made a move you don't agree with....sad excuse honestly. The other moves buddy just name are the exact same, yet you over look them cause you were alright wit them. Try to see your own flawed bias & do better
@chuckEdopemoves
@chuckEdopemoves 2 ай бұрын
I remember they actually was saying KD better than LeBron. When KD lost last year in the first round to the same team LeBron lost to, why LeBron get more criticism 🤔🤔that's not accountability
@Thatonedudefromthatonekrew
@Thatonedudefromthatonekrew 2 ай бұрын
Im with pierce on kd
@IamnotJokic
@IamnotJokic 2 ай бұрын
KD’s plight is all self-inflicted. The guy made his decision to hop teams but he wants his cake and eat it too.
@kaydee1485
@kaydee1485 2 ай бұрын
If that was the case then the blame should be shared with GSW equally but it isn't. The blame is piled on him solely. There is space and nuance to dislike his decision, realise that it was 7 years ago, and still appreciate his prowess as a player, but most fans can't split the difference.
@IamnotJokic
@IamnotJokic 2 ай бұрын
@@kaydee1485 no we do “split the difference” but people like you want to sweep it under the rug. He’s never achieved anything after his stint with the Warriors. So what are we supposed to think of him? He’s not a top player anymore.
@derrickhoward1543
@derrickhoward1543 2 ай бұрын
KD played terrible against Boston while getting swept. He had a mediocre series last playoffs too. He didn't play bad against the Warriors but peep what happened in game 5 and 6 of that series. Stop lying KG. This is what we're talking about. Y'all never keep the same energy with KD.
@MorganNye
@MorganNye 2 ай бұрын
I feel like Dan LeBatard had a tragic life compared to his family and friends where they seem like they didn’t and had good lives.
@LargeDude2023
@LargeDude2023 2 ай бұрын
KD scored 11 points just now in loss to Bucks with out Giannis. He might be better than Lebron but that ain’t saying much
@tmcjetlife4952
@tmcjetlife4952 2 ай бұрын
1 leg out the car , BUCKET 😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
@stanleed.harold5457
@stanleed.harold5457 2 ай бұрын
Rondo, wall, Mills, Crawford, ish smith...
@foundationchicago6908
@foundationchicago6908 2 ай бұрын
Not a guy with less rings than KD saying he's under performing because he's only got two rings
@reefbishop19
@reefbishop19 2 ай бұрын
Kevin Durant had 11 points in a loss today w Devin booker, Grayson Allen, Bradley Beal as his teammates all outscoring him. Bron had 40 the day before. FOH!!!
@drosims7993
@drosims7993 2 ай бұрын
Wtf one random regular season game doesn't prove a point...you a casual like a mf 😂😂
@goldwolf0606
@goldwolf0606 2 ай бұрын
KD is a BusRider 😂😂😂
@dale444ify
@dale444ify 2 ай бұрын
Kd has no rings without Curry
@avon2alpha676
@avon2alpha676 2 ай бұрын
Dame, Harden, Russ, Booker, PG, Chris Paul, Zion, and many others don’t have rings either.
@kotsw27
@kotsw27 2 ай бұрын
No, the media and fans blames AD, Vogel, Russ, Pelinka, Ham, Kuzma, Ball, KCP, etc When They lose this year, it's Lavine's fault for not being traded to LA
@queyoung6597
@queyoung6597 2 ай бұрын
KD isn’t under appreciated because anyone who knows hoops would say he’s an All-time great. The issue comes when KD says things like “I don’t know why I’m not in the GOAT conversation”, and people say you’re a hater when you dissect his career. Yes it’s nitpicking, but most of us have our All-time list and when comparing players the margin is so slim that you have to nitpick.
@romecatolico3549
@romecatolico3549 2 ай бұрын
GREAT TO SEE YOU KEVIN GARNETT MY HERO 🦸‍♂️
@Osei_Bean_8ryant
@Osei_Bean_8ryant 2 ай бұрын
KD back to the warriors in the off-season for one last run
@pokey0723
@pokey0723 2 ай бұрын
Since he left the warriors he just had unfortunate luck with teammates. It look good on paper but shit never really works out his teams been too top heavy so they need them other starts to show up & he’s always the only star that consistently shows up.
@drey_scorchin
@drey_scorchin 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but I hope him and beal turn it up 🚨 because Dbook is on go! Because I dnt want them in the play in I want them at the!4th seed at least etc 🇲🇽☀️
@tyrrellhueston8588
@tyrrellhueston8588 2 ай бұрын
2 things 2 minutes in .. KD wasn’t a better player then Bron when he was in GSW , and his stats are not good , atleast not for me when he don’t cover 25 on my parlay 🤦🏽‍♂️
@blackphillip564
@blackphillip564 2 ай бұрын
KG sympathizes with KD because KG couldn't put his foot down with Minnesota and lost most of his prime.
@mobb6508
@mobb6508 2 ай бұрын
KD COMPLETELY FD UP HIS REP AFTER LEAVING GS
@sidney1234usc
@sidney1234usc 2 ай бұрын
It is KD's fault he should have never left Golden State. He wanted it to make things harder on himself and look what that got him
@joshliggins-lk8gj
@joshliggins-lk8gj 2 ай бұрын
Kd always has key teammates injured at the worst times.
@vitoat123
@vitoat123 2 ай бұрын
Brooklyn wins championship if Kyrie didn't get injured by Giannis that year 100%
@songohan4872
@songohan4872 2 ай бұрын
Paul dead on. KD got a starter spot and Steph didn’t yet warriors were higher up on the standing. Kd gets excuses cause people like his game
@drosims7993
@drosims7993 2 ай бұрын
Hes definitely underappreciated.... strictly from the stand point that he literally tore his Achilles(a career ending injury) & buddy hasnt, missed a beat. There's a reason almost every nba player puts him on their top 5 starting line up. Todays fans are just a bunch of drama queens who run with narratives. KD wont be fully appreciated until hes out league and casuals/haters are not longer able to hide behind narratives. Men lie, women lie... numbers never lie!
@thenopasslook
@thenopasslook 2 ай бұрын
wherever you have steph curry all time, you have to have durant one slot above him
@micahrobinson1875
@micahrobinson1875 2 ай бұрын
KD is not an all time great, I believe everyone is having multiple conversations, in regard to KD. He’s a great scorer and one of the most consistent scoring threats. Now, that makes him a HOFer first ballot. Intangibles? The name of the game is winning. He does not do that. Every season, we can say why a team and multiple teams don’t win the chip. Thing is, every team has to go through adversities. In my humble opinion, the reason he’s not a great are intangibles. And that’s ok! I appreciate his greatness and authenticity. Every great player does not have to be in the Goat conversation.
@Mav0011
@Mav0011 2 ай бұрын
You’re part of the reason people can’t stand NBA fans. So lost.
@yourboytg5318
@yourboytg5318 2 ай бұрын
Kd not all time great lol
@micahrobinson1875
@micahrobinson1875 2 ай бұрын
You probably can’t hoop and born bout time Bron came in league
@tag7376
@tag7376 2 ай бұрын
KD not in that light When u in that light, you carry team over the hump. That lift heavy like you said. And I worry about that durability. Hold K.D to same ACCOUNTABILITY and they don't SO HE NOT. Can't have it both ways. What K.G talking about ??? it's more than stats. It's intangibles it's leadership it's beyond scoreboard. Ask MJ, KOBE AND LEBRON. Paul Pierce told TRUTH
@kaydee1485
@kaydee1485 2 ай бұрын
What are you talking bout? KD impacts with his play, he's not Bron or Kobe, he's not there to 'lead' a team. He there to play the best ball he can and he delivers. KD has always been consistent with his play and attitude towards basketball, if you're putting more on him than he's displayed so far, thats more on you than him.
@adamkumi7122
@adamkumi7122 2 ай бұрын
After KG’s take I don’t want to hear fans say bron needs more help? Cause if bron switched careers with KD you guys would kill him for all the players he had and only 2 rings and lebron has 4 rings and you still kill him lol
@MikeThaKing
@MikeThaKing 2 ай бұрын
If they switched careers Bron would still have more rings than KD 😂
@marcjohnson4677
@marcjohnson4677 2 ай бұрын
Pierce: The media doesn't hold KD accountable when he doesn't win. He always gets a pass. *2 seconds later* KG: The Brooklyn thing wasn't KD's fault 😕
@CashEmDaily
@CashEmDaily 2 ай бұрын
Huh The media doesn’t hold KD accountable. Majority when talked Kd he gets slighted. Pierce clueless
@nazoflove
@nazoflove 2 ай бұрын
KG and Paul Pierce should know personally how hard it is carrying bums when you are a superstar... both of them would be WAY higher on the top 75 if their organizations looked out for them before they were old... Paul Pierce is bullshit, KD was one big toe away from soloing the bucks and winning the chip...beginning of the season he almost solo'ed the lakers with 44 pts and D Book and Beal were out..he has the worst luck, no matter what KD does it will never be good enough
@DocYAYAYA
@DocYAYAYA 2 ай бұрын
one of the few times I dont agree with KG... he went to the Nets to be the main guy and he failed. He had Kyrie and Harden and failed and now he has Booker and Beal and they middle of the pack. KD just aint that guy, great scorer yes but he aint putting the team on his back when things are tough. If I am building a team to win he aint close to my first pick
@Lildirt15
@Lildirt15 2 ай бұрын
He didn’t fail he was available kyrie wasn’t even in phoenix he played more games than book and Beal at his age lol 😂
@DocYAYAYA
@DocYAYAYA 2 ай бұрын
he has failed. Hes had Harden and Kyrie and now Book and Beal. These are 4 of the best scorers in the league. You jump teams like he does you have to back it up. The only place he won was on a team that has won before he came and after he left@@Lildirt15
@jonjon5665
@jonjon5665 2 ай бұрын
Kd will nvr receive the true respect his talent garner. The way he chose to go by winning isnt so great but its better than not winning at all. If he nvr win another 1, me personally will look back and think hed be slightly above melo w/o them rings...i knw his peers & his hardcore fanbase wont look at it the way i do but everyone else (majority will)...Also he isnt the only 1 i view like that either cough cough😏
@Zeke824
@Zeke824 2 ай бұрын
Nope KD is Tracy mcgrady without Curry.
@RT-wp7oz
@RT-wp7oz 2 ай бұрын
Lol
@swqueen03
@swqueen03 2 ай бұрын
Paul Pierce sounds dumb! KD gets dressed for everything. KD is efficient and he knows it.
@BLACC.215
@BLACC.215 2 ай бұрын
Saying worried bout KD heavy lifting when he build all of his teams is crazy
@treyberry1026
@treyberry1026 2 ай бұрын
KD is too passive.
@py3148
@py3148 2 ай бұрын
Cuz he’s a bus rider!
@trenchmaderell3037
@trenchmaderell3037 2 ай бұрын
KD can get 27 points in his sleep
@jayy6ix753
@jayy6ix753 2 ай бұрын
first
@MorganNye
@MorganNye 2 ай бұрын
Nobody cares about that so delete that
@kalijustdgaf4049
@kalijustdgaf4049 2 ай бұрын
Kd is a glorified role player
@0809EZ
@0809EZ 2 ай бұрын
And unlike Bron...KD has not turned over his team through pressuring the organization to give him more help....which is Lebron's mantra .
@mr.thekidd498
@mr.thekidd498 2 ай бұрын
......Nobody respects Weak Moves. Sorry NOT Sorry, KD.
@derrickhoward1543
@derrickhoward1543 2 ай бұрын
KD played terrible against Boston while getting swept. He had a mediocre series last playoffs too. He didn't play bad against the Warriors but peep what happened in game 5 and 6 of that series. Stop lying KG. This is what we're talking about. Y'all never keep the same energy with KD.
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