Is Kernel Level Anti-Cheat the Answer?

[@renyan]

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[@loveissaacc]

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[@nineexists]

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[@mario.lourenco]

how is this a video from a 324 sub channel. insane quality. keep up the good work my man!

[@666nullxd]

so true

[@AmxCsifier]

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[@a3ab230]

One important point to note is that, over the past few years, Valve has put a significant amount of effort into optimizing games for Linux, especially for their Steam Deck and the potential desktop version of SteamOS. It seems unlikely that they would discard all that progress just to implement kernel-level anti-cheats, given that Linux doesn't easily support kernel-level software.

[@kacperoo29]

Well you could theoretically prepare a kernel module loaded via dkms, it's just most people don't want to load closed source code into their kernel.

[@CXCubeXD]

@@kacperoo29 Tbh the custom kernel could be a solution for linux. I would argue it would be better than the windows situation, since linux kernels can easily be switched

[@Max128ping]

@@CXCubeXD But you could also argue that the situation is WORSE because of it. The source is open, it's there. Cheat makers can grab it, make their cheats INTO THE KERNEL ITSELF, and sell it. While giving a big fat middle finger to the GPL license. Most of the time, cheat are memory viewing tools (oftenc alled ESP cheats). You can't detect the kernel itself is the cheat.

[@Max128ping]

@@CXCubeXD and if Valve were to make their own custom kernel, They still have to make the source code open as well because of the license (Correct me if I'm wrong)

[@CXCubeXD]

@@Max128ping GLP-2 sadly ruins the whole thing but luckily BSD exists. What I could also imagine is binary patching of the kernel, this would bypass the GLP-2 license completely

[@matijos2442]

One of these days the Algorithm will bless you. I had NO IDEA this video was from a 300 sub channel until i went into the description. Keep cooking

[@Dupefi]

Thank you so much for the kind words!

[@rhyzhyn]

my cyber security roommate would always tell me, "all things created can be secured and unsecured, it takes a guy with a fire stick to do that or some russian with an adhd to flip the script. so stay safe." my brother was right. so with a 30yrs + experience, ill trust my guy.

[@rhyzhyn]

and yes my brother is my roommate. 😊

[@BadenX7]

I was learning python a while back & one of my friends sent me an old broken source for a KM box script that used color detection (some Chinese videos came with it), OFC it wasn't the right thing to do but I was curious. I spent a good week with him re writing the base & he had a KM box on route. Valorant was the main focus for him, so we got it working and he was using aim bot & trigger bot a lot (No ESP) solid 7+ months has passed with him using it, and he isn't banned. Kernel level cheats isn't the option, safe boot, tpm etc etc there's all ways a way around it.

[@Batsonoutdoordesigns]

So you’re discussing cheaters in the same paragraph where you’re defending a more efficient anti-cheat. I think it makes you sound like you’re implying you’re against cracking down on the cheating problem.

[@k0mmand]

Riot's trying so hard to patch any and all of Vanguard's potential vulnerabilities, because they know damn well that if even one of them is left unpatched, it will all go very wrong, due to the very nature of kernel level software.

[@miraizinhamiraizoka]

someday Riot just will let a badcode enter in they Kernel Level Anti-Cheat and everyone that play they games will get the pc ruined...

[@IOverlord]

​@@miraizinhamiraizokaOr get hacked like Apex lmfao

[@Satoshic_]

there is no way of "fixing all ac's vulnerabilities" cuz as far as game is running locally there always will be a workaround

[@GoomDuy28]

​@@IOverlordCSGO had ESEA mining scandal 💀

[@LynxDD]

@@IOverlord i'm pretty sure apex didn't get "hacked" last thing i saw was it was most likely just the 2 streamers pc's were compromised by the cheat creators and made to look like remote code execution. otherwise they would have targeted a lot more then just 2 streamers in a game full of streamers. also apex doesn't run their own anti cheat it's run by a third party that they contract to do it for them, only making this distinction because if the anti cheat was backdoored to allow RCE more then just apex would have had a massive issue.

[@VoidDave]

The real anwser to MOST cheats: SERVER SIDE ANTI CHEAT. It would catch ALL obvious cheats like spinbot trigger aim etc. the only ones that could avoid it is wallhack tbh. But that can be solved by making screenshot of the game (and only game) and searching for odd things. You can make system that's display control pixel once per some time in random place that only anty cheat and game know where it is. if pixel is missing that means game broke / someone bypassed it so kick him (to validate game files or to stop cheating in this match). In this scenario ALL worst cheats will be stopped and cheaters cant do anything about it. But why companies don't do it? Money. Unitl its changes everyone that want to play game to RELAX need to accept all security risks... Or do what most sane ppl do and stop playing those types of games.

[@3dcomrade]

Especially with ML for AI at the forefront. Server side anti cheat is more possible than ever

[@MrCimik]

Also once you stop the most obvious cheats that disrupt the matchmaking the most, you can still implement a good reporting system to let the players deal with whoever is left. There is no need to prevent all cheating, imho. Just the large scale disruptive kind.

[@Menalix]

Wallhack should be solved with a GPU hardware implementation, I know Nvidia looked into this 4-years ago, from some sources, but idk if they ditched it.

[@onzi7706]

Faceit had server ac back in 2016 and it was 99% better than vac

[@Menalix]

@@onzi7706 No it was not better than vac. No one ever had issues bypassing that crap, and it also false banned lots of people. But Valve back then solely relied on signature based detections. For free cheats they used the USN Journal stamps in Windows, for premium the same or doing a selective befitting fingerprint. But that was a lot of manual work, and primarily popular cheats were targetted. But they were quite able to detect most cheats. They bought mine for example and detected by fingerprinting the REST api connection for customer authorization. After Me and some others from RoyalHack, hacked a Vac Employee leaking their manual work logs from his Gmail, they stopped doing this kind of manual work, because of the risks it involved I guess.

[@macaprasok]

Guys, i have good news. I was playing a premier match and my teammates were saying that the enemy is cheating. After the match i looked at my cs2 stats and at the matches.... and i saw that someone got vac banned in one of my matches. So i look what guy and i see a different red shield next to his name... it didn´t say vac but it said ow... so i put the picture into the bar where your browser tabs are. So i looked at the file name... it was overwatch. Bro got overwatch banned in 2024.

[@TraeBaldwin]

No way. How?

[@orchid9]

We only have this discussion because kernel-level anticheats really do work. Because people believe so, not because they prevent anything but the most basic cheats. They don't prevent actual cheating in any capacity and actually quite helpful for cheat devs. But kernel-level AC never were designed to prevent anything other than the most blatant of hacks. It's an absolutely brilliant PR idea tho. You don't need to prevent cheating, you just need to build a public image of a game that doesn't have cheaters. Valorant has a striving cheating community with untraceable cheats that weren't banned for years. But the issue with cheating is non-existant because of Vanguard.

[@upgr3eyedd933]

Good point. People put so much trust in Kernel-level anticheats that they forgot the real question Does it work

[@torahama362]

Problem is, it does work. The more easily the access to cheat is, the more people cheat because it's easy. The moment you introduce some kind of wall to prevent it, most people are deter from cheating because they don't bother to learn how to cheat. The more layers you introduce [kernel level anti-cheat, high cheat software price, software/hardware knowledge], the more people you deter, unless they majored in CS/EE or sth. How many times did you don't finish sth just because you need to jump through some extra hoops to get it done? If it's really annoying to cheat, 95% of the population won't, and kernel level anti-cheat provide exactly that. Idk if you know, but please watch this video, it show how annoying it is to get a working cheat and all the walls you have to jump through to get to that point. Put yourself in an avg Joe shoes and think about it, would you do this? Or just play the game normally? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKjdeqRmaduXZq8&ab_channel=UnityResearch

[@jepulis6674]

@@torahama362 It does not work. All they do is catch the trolling morons. If you are not at the highest elo level, faceit is worse than premier as at least on Valve you have to risk the prime payment. Faceit is free and they have manpower to only ban people using wall- and radar-hacks against at pro or semi-pro levels. Lower elo on level 4-7 filled with smurfs aka cheats, and actual cheaters.

[@keestojuusto6072]

@@torahama362Exactly!

[@dennis_benjamin]

Completely agree. The last time I played Valorant 2,5 years ago I had wallhacking breachs on the enemy team 5 competitive games in a row and they weren't even trying to hide it. I changed my position on the defender side every round still every single round the enemy breach dumped all of his abilities through the wall into my face as long as I was at a position where there were only one portal between us. When I positioned in a way that there were 2 portals between us he suddenly had no clue where I was and I fucked him. Of course Valorant players did not understand this and praised him for his amazing "gamesense" and flamed me for telling them to position differently to counter their cheater.

[@Atom.9971]

2:40 When i first downloaded Valorant. It Completely bricked my PC.

[@ImagynWagons]

Same

[@skarano]

Its literal spyware

[@smereko]

​@@skarano It's funny when people say that kernel-level anti-cheat is spyware. Google, microsoft, valve and many many many big and small company's have access to all your data, no matter have VAC access to the core or not, Gaben spying on you anyway

[@febryandartansyah]

im play game on linux (fedora), so i didn't want any type of kernel anti cheat cuz it won't run.

[@tallguyupn9217]

Same for me (arch btw)

[@miraizinhamiraizoka]

me too! (arch now but moving to fedora/nobara)

[@mr_sauce_cooks]

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[@Menalix]

You can make kernel anti-cheat for linux as well?

[@febryandartansyah]

@@Menalix if developer want to make, yes it can.

[@loadingmagic]

Cheating is a cat and mouse game. Kernel level anticheat is bypassable. Most good cheating companys even offer a "Patched version" of windows also.

[@CXCubeXD]

Big difference between Valve and Riot is reporting in Riot actually does something because there are real humans checking the reports in some cases, while with Valve they do almost zero manual work

[@ToZik]

Once an anti-cheat developer from another video's interview, said "It's not challenging at all to kill cheats completely when companies actually try hard enough, but it's challenging for those cheat makers to find a real job, they either turns into criminal or homeless, so we need yin when there's yang." Edit: typo

[@fakupeek]

Send this channel to the algorithm booster chambers immediately and have his channel exploded, srsly my jaw dropped after watching the vid n looking down on sub count, i was so sold on the high production quality,bro how is this even possible, u must be sum pro production/editor, this is too premium shid,im so sold,take me country,marry me daughter m8, we shall watch ur career with gr8 interest. Edit: the comment section too is so interesting,like minded info geeks all over the place gosh i may have found a diy hltv/reddit thread i might make my home lol

[@Rdwini]

HOW TF DO YOU ONLY HAVE 540 SUBS??? this is genuinely quality content of someone with 50k subs if even above

[@crydevice]

Without watching the video first, i have to share my thoughts. Kernel-level anti-cheat digs deep into your computer, which can slow things down even when you’re not gaming. It feels a bit over the top for me personally. i hate valorant because vanguard has caused many problems for me. Remember the ESEA incident? Players found out their PCs were exploited for cryptocurrency mining. Cheats are getting so good that even FORTNITE has a massive cheating problem. The cheat devs will keep finding new ways to get around whatever Valve puts in place. Imma say NO. Kernel level anti cheat is NOT the answer :D Edit: liked and subbed. the quality is insane

[@iExpertxC4x]

Kernel Level Anti-Cheat isn't the solution, it will add more performance requirement to the user impacting fps and it will be short term solution then cheaters will learn how to bypass it and you won't get any benefit so What I think it will change the situation is AI anti cheat base on machine learning and bringing back "Overwatch" system for players and start feeding knowledge to the AI for long run will eliminate a lot of cheaters

[@Menalix]

Usually usermode anti-cheats is more performance requiring than kernel anti-cheats. One example is VAC2's way of busy looping for handle checks, where as with a kernel driver, they could just have a single global callback. Some usermode anti-cheats even inject all applications system-wide for doing callbacks on syscalls. rather than using simple global kernel callback functionality. So if it's performance you want, then kernel is a better route than a usermode anti-cheat.

[@iExpertxC4x]

@@Menalix I meant the AI Anti Cheat will be Server side and won't be implemented inside client PC so it will be lightweight and serve Windows and Linux users and the Overwatch system can help in cases where the AI can't decide

[@Menalix]

@@iExpertxC4x Yea that's definitely true. AI's is still quite hold back by the fact it's very restricted due to the limited amount of data though, which is VACNet's issue. If it was able to see userinput 1:1 with realtime data streaming. it would beat the crap out of kernel anti-cheats in all aspects. Subtick implementation was definitely for this reason, for them to retrieve a finer chunk of user input data. They problaby figured 66 tick chunks, was insufficient, for proper analysis, which is also why most of what VACNet learned from CSGO was rendered redundant.

[@TF2Goblin]

No it isn't.

[@noobking1066]

Yes it is

[@vyslx]

You're right, and Valve agrees with you, so since you're so right we now get to deal with closet cheaters in Valve MM and all high-level players are forced to queue FaceIT, due to Valve not implementing a temporary kernel level anti-cheat in order to temporarily remedy/mitigate the issue. Congrats! You win the internet with your divine intellect. Maybe Valve will hire you?

[@abyssmage6979]

​@vyslx enjoy your bank details getting stolen by kernel level spyware and sold to chinese companies ☺️

[@srcactusman2874]

Write a 300 word essay explaining why it is not

[@grigmax]

Linux​@@vyslx

[@fakdolan]

so much effort into the video idk how you only have 300 subs

[@esdel1_zzz]

These videos are insane quality I hope your market place turns out just as good

[@ANDR0iD]

It is not only about vulnerabilities. If an error occurs while executing code at the kernel level, there is no error handling, that is why Vanguard causes blue screens. Only run code at the kernel level if it is necessary.

[@nikk7022]

i just realized this channel has 330 subs, i had a feeling that im watching a popular youtuber because of high quality and fun video

[@avrajsokhi4163]

Kernel level anti cheat is only a temporary solution in my opinion because more cheats are moving away from reading game memory to cheat and instead using machine learning and object recognition to cheat which cant be detected by any kernel level anti cheat so i think the way to go is for ML anti cheats which can recognise cheaters by how they play and not which programs they have in the background.

[@vyyr]

No. it is not the answer. It will never be the answer. Eliminating few cheaters at the cost of users diginity is not a reasonable trade.

[@literallyhuman5990]

I have a really funny idea. For the funni, instead of banning them. Just purposefully increase their packet loss to the server. 5% PL per trillionth of a second, and make it server side. Why you play something that you know will brick it everytime you boot it up.

[@jimmydcz724]

I would rather play against cheaters than having some program mess around in my kernel.

[@vinhdev6803]

based

[@tallguyupn9217]

So true. I cant trust anything that runs in the kernel without seeing its source code

[@Bulletcss]

@@tallguyupn9217 what do you have to hide? do you really think a big company like valve wants to steal ur credit card info ? :D

[@dimasskarabas]

Same

[@CONQUEROER444]

Vanguard even drops fps 🤡

[@top10worldwide86]

I didnt knew you just had 460 subs !! your video quality is best and eye catching i hope you grow fast ! SUBSCRIBEDD!!!

[@mcvilllain]

I have an idea: a layered moderation system. So people often falsely report out of frustration, which makes moderation extremely difficult because of so many false reports. You'd have to filter those out to make moderation even remotely possible. To do that you could flag a player based on how many other players are reporting them in a single match, or set of matches. If the entire enemy team is reporting this player, or he's being reported by his teammates, his gameplay gets sent to a crowdsourced moderation tool for review by ordinary people. These ordinary people can vote on it without being able to see vote counts, and flagged gameplay with lots of votes for positive cheating then gets sent to an actual steam moderator. Permanently ban their account for cheating. Only allow this as a prime status feature. Each cheater would take a while to ban this way, but pair that with the fact that prime matchmaking costs money, and there would be few repeat offenders being willing to buy the game over and over.

[@billybobbufford]

just add the kernal to prime and allow already prime players to opt out if they dont want it

[@Grampa_Swood]

I think it's important to note that in June of 2024, Valve managed to nearly completely eradicate automated cheating accounts and they haven't returned in any major way since (only a few reports here and there of single matches having bots, but otherwise they are completely gone). I have faith in Valve that they can actually make a great anti-cheta.

[@SkMDAliHamzaAlif-]

One of my friend’s audio doesn’t work in valorant . Turns out, that specific motherboard audio driver is flagged in Valorant.

[@Stooch]

you think valve is holding the moral highground, protecting privacy? if the government cared one bit about under age gambling, counter strike would cease to exist.

[@fica1137]

CS would still be very profitable if they did away with case gambling, though it would probably be replaced with lesser evil like for example FOMO or other gacha game tactics

[@mrgunman200]

I don't think they will do it because of Linux and the amount of money they put in Proton alone

[@sirgeohd]

why do you only have 400 subs?? good vid man!

[@vextroyer2665]

League was a great example of how bad kernel is, cancelling clean matches, banning innocent players because it was fault detecting a "cheat", even blocking my vac from working even when i very clearly closed the whole program and reset my pc, and even with all of that it managed to keep the numbers down for a brief period of time

[@Nino3Productions]

Just imagine kernal level AC with overwatch in cs2, the game will be one of the best protected games ever

[@JIREX]

Name a SINGULAR game with kerne level anticheat, that isn’t actively hacked on.

[@Nino3Productions]

@@JIREX didn't say it will never have cheaters, and i'm talking about cs2 as a game and not any other game, cs2 suffering from a cheater infestation, and in my opinion both of this combination will greatly reduce the cheaters within the game

[@JIREX]

@@Nino3Productions I’ve seen this exact same situation on multiple cod games, gta, apex, fortnite, lots of other AAA games. It stops cheat devs for genuinely, 15 minutes… all it takes is a kernel driver, and possibly changing hooking methods. This never works, and ruins the fps for everyone in the end More protection = more processing power for the game to make sure you aren’t being stupid and cheating

[@Nino3Productions]

@@JIREX you can't blame for me for at least hoping that my favorite game would end up banning the cheaters in anyway shape or form, but ay, we'll see what valve will do, i mean eventually they'll figure out a solution, just dont know if it'll be quick or it would take years to fix, the longer time we give cheaters, the more evolved they'll be

[@JIREX]

@ i just sadly dont see an end to it. Its way too popular of a game for the cheating market to NOT be oversaturated. Even if they add the craziest anticheat measures, it takes 1 cheat dev to share their reverse engineering knowledge and every cheat dev is back in Take iOS/Apple for example. Their devs are LOCKED IN, iOS is super secure and jailbreak is almost never seen anymore. But again, it takes just one dev sharing their proof-of-concept exploit, and other devs build off of it Cat and mouse game, forever..

[@lvyathan]

the reason they dont talk about their anti cheat is because its a secretive project, they dont want to give away any information or cheat developers might find another gap to go through..

[@の_の]

It's actually KYC matchmaking with Valorant here in Vietnam

[@JD-jn14]

8:20 Valve has already talked about the keyboard that denies the movement on counter strike

[@itsbigbad2050]

Easy solution. You must run kernel level AC to play premier. If you don’t want to accept the risk of kernel lvl AC then you can play comp

[@MrTheQuestioner]

That AI monitor is a terrifying prospect...

[@Puwpl]

VAC is working rather well actually. And I say that as a cheater lol. I had an account I cheated on for about 3 years (I'm talking full 'spin' and I used almost every powerful 'hack' on the account, from Skeet to Aimware.) Since VAC3 I've banned as many accounts as I banned during 2018. Including the account I mentioned above.

[@n3bu1a]

Such a well done video. Keep it up brother

[@whiskytangi]

Also valve has been working on taking what is learned from cs2 and vacnet and this will be in deadlock. My personal opinion is that they are going to do a multi tiered system where majorly blatant cheats are banned via ML, and something like a low dpi aimhack is determined by ai over the course of the game. With some of those being sent to overwatch for community peer review. I dont think valve will ever implement a kernel level anti cheat unless they are able to ship steamos with a specialized kernel that allows vac to work with this. (I have a thought this is the only way other kernel level anti cheats could come to linux but it of course has all the same privacy concerns.)

[@StayBrutalAlex]

how is this channel still not huge?

[@josephbo7399]

Yes look at FACEIT vs Premier. When you play 23k+ CSR in premier in CS2 you get like a 33% chance to get a cheater in NA which has the least, in faceit it is under 1%, literally got 1 cheater in my last 100 matches on faceit and got my elo back in above 2500 Elo

[@EternalAngel333]

here i am sitting actually knowing some people cheating on faceit tournaments yet to be banned

[@onzi7706]

3k+ matches on fct got 1 spinbot in 2018 which was ban 2days later and thats all

[@EternalAngel333]

@@onzi7706 obv no1 is gonna spin on faceit.. not to mention some features are limited on faceit skinchangers etc dont work and ragebot is limited to a low fov now due to it.. still doesnt stop sonar, esp, low fov aimbot etc

[@josephbo7399]

@@EternalAngel333 This has happened to me make a good ticket, with an mp4 file clip of sus moments.

[@EternalAngel333]

@@josephbo7399 bro idc i wont snitch on the people

[@МартинКичуков]

I haven't watched the video, but I'm going to have to Betteridge's law of headlines you, my guy.

[@kalitara100]

Fantastic work on the video mate! I know it can be hard in the beginning, don't get discouraged you are doing fantastic!!! To answer the question, YES I would pay a subscription of up to 50-100Euro per month to play cheater free or a bigger 1 time payment. I've played in T2 in Rainbow six siege and T3 currently in CS2. Spite cheating when people start loosing is what really gets me. I never understood how and why we adopted cheating as an acceptable thing that "everyone does nowadays" (This is an actual response I've got from a cheater :D )

[@O6i]

biometric accounts and cheating results in a lifetime ban from gaming.

[@Aler_5]

I still do not understand why Valve lets people with VAC or gamebans play online competitive multiplayer games, Valve has a philosophy to not ban people for false positives, throw that philosophy out of the window when there is a guy with past cheating behavior, just ban them on a minuscule offense, false positive or not. Just lock that account out of the player pool If they make a new account, fine Now you have data on a brand new account that is wallhacking against their enemies, with possibly same ISP signature and Hardware ID

[@Pufty]

2:48 Just a week ago I tried installing windows again and get Faceit, so I can enjoy cheaterless CS. Right after restarting, because the AC asked, windows bricked itself. Took about 15 restarts until it responded on home screen and in the end I found out that I've had a Faceit account linked to the old CSGO some years ago with an email that doesn't exist and I'm outta luck :D

[@so14r3]

Two types of prople: 1: I'd rather play a hacker lobby than get spyware 2: I'd rather have someone mine bitcoin on my PC as long as there are no cheaters

[@whimazjunior5746]

As developer, it was predictable years ago that one day players would get so good, and cheaters so hard to detect (get hardware cheats) that makes the game unbalanced. In my opinion I'd just give up tbh, I don't really care if there are cheaters, as long as they don't mess with people who play legit. (You have HvH servers without vac protection) And I kinda respect Valve for at least try while keeping us safe. Right now I just want them to continue focus to solve some mechanical issues

[@ahzaadhwa7614]

The best solution for cheaters without losing much player base is making a new matchmaking space, that you need to pay USD 200 to play. It's a Prime lvl-2 account, then create separate ranking system with Prime Lvl-2. Ain't no cheaters going to pay and lose that much.

[@lucaspagote3042]

Cmon algorithm, do ur work, this guy highly deserves it. Goof job mate, great vid.

[@leosimvuiseng2926]

kernel anti cheat is shit tho. valorant asia server is plagued with cheaters. vanguard is pretty much useless. i would rather play cs even tho yes cs really has many cheater but amound of valorant cheaters start to increase and could be near to amount of csgo (not cs2) cheater just because many people legit hide cheating compared to cs they only fully rage hack if they losing

[@ΥΣΛ]

yeah agreed. the valorant PR is just about blinding people, whether its about their updates or the game itself

[@deadzonedayz]

I think the best way to prevent cheating all internal cheats its just by running the game in a closed VM, be it SteamOS or something else, with stripped out everything aside what game wants, Window will still support capturing so no issues recording the game, but you wont be getting access to the filesystem or the VM system itself, sounds pretty doable

[@A432Hz]

What a way to kill game performance for a game that struggles to get good frame rates as is.

[@sldncs]

9:56 kyc is a good decision but assuming people wont steal identity's from others isnt right to me. there is many traders already in the us or other country's that continue to steal and buy chinese kyc to use Buff.

[@Soviet_Kitty]

I know kernel level anti cheat is a massively controversial thing for many people, but I just can’t deal with the cheaters anymore, it completely ruins the game. A lot of people talk about the fps industry being “no longer fun” nowadays, and to be honest, it’s just completely because of cheaters. Not being able to play a fair match = no point in even playing the game in those servers. You won’t learn or improve by playing against them, you’ll just form bad habits. I’m at the point where I’d be fine with a lot to stop cheaters. Hardware bans? Yes. Kernel anti-cheat? You betcha. Confirming ID’s and such / giving away that private info? I’d gladly do it. I normally am incredibly stingy about privacy violations (to the point where I avoid Walmart simply because of their facial tracking), and yet I’d give it all up in a heartbeat to just have fair and cheat-free games in counter strike. The cheating problem has gone too far, it needs to be addressed.

[@voonillathemalo]

500 subs. ARE YOU KIDDING??? YOU ONLY HAVE 500 SUBSCRIBERS??? WOW.

[@bepisman3161]

you gained a sub dude great vid

[@fb2556]

Great vid, editing and speaking is clean and understandable. well done

[@slav3rsn1x]

Kernel Anti Cheat = While security checks the inside and outside of your home, can access your private case and retrieve the jewelry inside your safe!

[@Smuxfy]

7:35 Mads Mikkelsen

[@GrimReaper..]

Giga Chad

[@Smuxfy]

@@GrimReaper.. giga chad what?

[@AmxCsifier]

I was here when this channel had less than half a dozen hundred subscribers

[@mateuszc70]

It is. There're very very few cheaters on faceit for a reason, kernel lvl AC works!

[@shrek2342]

Excellent video, deserves way more subs and views

[@laeioun]

Server-side AI anti-cheat is the way forward. Behavioral detection will end the arms race.

[@ThrowTop]

cheat developers vs anticheat developers (both include very similar skills)

[@IrishKream]

Hey man what kind of editing software do you use? I wanna make videos like this too

[@Dupefi]

Adobe Premier, Photoshop, and After Effects for animations :)

[@theinnocentxeno]

Kernal level anti-cheat requires you to have absolute faith that it is working as it should and not causing any harm to your system since it has the power to fry your setup completely

[@FBi_.]

So if I just paid for a very expensive laptop, why would I take that risk then ??

[@lighty6401]

I think the solution is to have active admins, from all around the world where there are CS2 servers. There should be an option to report the match to an admin. Now the admin can secretly enter the GOTV without notifying the enemy team. This way they can catch the cheating player live. If this isn't possible, they can have the match downloaded and view them later. It doesn't take someone to watch the entire match to see if somebody is cheating. Usually a few rounds are enough. This way, atleast blatant hacks and walls can be stopped.

[@mmar2269]

Great qualitiy videos for such a small channel

[@Stooch]

you're worried about "kernal level" and you use windows, and apple products

[@ギコ]

mental deficiency or bait? call it

[@pekka405]

you are worried about burglars and yet you live in a house, checkmate liberal

[@nicolasdesenvolvedor1642]

I use arch (btw)

[@fekasuli]

Yes. You want a short-term solution. The long-term solution is using AI. But that would take too much time. Its like having a lot of young criminals, you can reduce the age for getting convicted. Or improve education. Job possibilities, etc. You need to do both, a short-term solution and a long-term solution. So, you stop people being robbed, and also improve the future.

[@kaidaluck648]

Another great thing in my opinion is the trust factor, aka the Purgatory. You are significantly less likely to run into a cheater in a high trust factor game.

[@beckettferguson9170]

the quality of these videos is off the charts!!

[@AzureUnlinked]

I wonder if we need to have a separate isolated open source operating system just to run CS2 within our host OS. Thats just a very weird idea I wonder about. But that would also mean that the code can be easily modified so eh, wonder whats the best way to implement KLAC in the most transparent way possible and in a way that plays nice with linux distros. Speaking of which, does Steam support BSD?

[@the_charliecp8859]

For me the biggest problem is that Vanguard is dogshit, literally kicks you out of ranked games because it randomly acts up while also banning you for arbitrary things without having the chance of explaining yourself, and in a game like CS were people have thousands in their inventories a VAC ban also means a trade ban so its just not feasible. i had a friend who updated to windows 11 and when he went back to valorant he discovered he was banned. Imagine losing 5000$ because you update to windows 11. Rather have an anticheat like VAC that misses everything but has a 100% ban accuracy, than something like Vanguard thats basically a drunk guy with a shotgun.

[@Terrown]

honestly I think AI Anti-Cheat is superior to Kernel-Level Access if you would actually allow it to analyze all the data (I mean data which Valve has anyways (how old is the account, how many logins, how many games, how many purchases and stuff like that - this would prevent those free account hackers quite easily. + paired with Ingame Stats and AI pattern recognition) I mean i can detect many cheaters just by checking their progress, their playstyle and their (Leetify) Stats. The problem is they arent getting banned. I am also totally fine with accounts getting suspended for sus behaviour before a manual checkup to see if its actually just a god-tier player or a cheater. It's all about the consistency

[@monsterchxn7489]

Idk the solution seems so simple to me, just let the players decide if they want to play with a kernel level anticheat or not. Players who are willing to install such a programm on their PC queue in lobbys where its required, and players who are not just continue to play with a high amout of cheaters. With faceit servers and anticheat its already kinda like that.

[@zeekoe4016]

Hey man got a quick question about the giveaway if you where to win do you just get a trade offer or how would you know?

[@Dupefi]

You'll get an e-mail :)

[@ruslanagadzhanyan2753]

Kernel level ani cheats do not work, cheaters are still slipping through, so we have system that doesn’t work, but for some reason I have to grant it a system level permission (especially true in case of Valorant), no thank you, besides there is absolutely no reason for such anti cheat to operate all the time.

[@Giorginho]

how do you have sponsorships and high quality produced videos at 700 subs

[@Jaydolon]

As long as Linux is supported, I'm fine with whatever Valve does with CS.

[@kanyewest7980]

Kernel anti cheats are more of a plague than hackers... even in cs2

[@jakobwolf66]

damn that awp asiimov fn is probably worth thousands

[@DudeLoreGames]

Microsoft is the only person who can stop it. It's a Microsoft Windows issue and they should be forced to have a solution.

[@user-mt2zu5cd7t]

After playing Valorant my pc would crash after 10-50 min. which has never happend with any other game.

[@Sizzyl]

I'm a very casual gamer despite having reached high ranks in games through sheer playtime alone and I haven't played games like Valorant to this day purely because I don't like the idea of a kernel level anti-cheat. I'm not competitive enough to care to give up my PCs security just to play the game with 5% less cheaters or something. If a game ever asks for RealID that'd really be something else though, I've never seen such a good incentive to pirate something (or simply not play it) before. I will also say outside of the launch of CS2, I've never really run into cheaters at all (I think I see one every 200 hours of game time or something which is low enough for me to not care). It seems to be a high-elo issue. I've played probably like 100-150 games of wingman and haven't faced any of the 'blatant cheaters' I hear people complain about, and I'm also an avid TF2 player and haven't seen significant amounts of cheaters/bots since valve stopped the bot crisis 1-2 months ago. Another great example is minecraft, which doesn't use any anticheat other than whatever the server is running and it's pretty rare to come across cheaters even on the biggest servers. If yall wanna go require RealID and all that for competitive tournaments and whatnot feel free, but if you want casual gamers to play games having all these crazy requirements just to play your game is just gonna be too much for most people, especially as more and more people have been slowly pushed to linux with things like the steam deck and windows 11.

[@666nullxd]

adult bites people = drake fun :DDD great vid man, keep it up!!!

[@ShelbyBanditToo]

Kernel Level Anti Cheat is Really Good . I Trust Steam More than Riot Games. Bring it Gabe

[@rijck3329]

Valorant is chinese spyware

[@aperks]

next gen: kernel level cheats,cheat OS

[@Maniaccs2]

What astounds me is the length people go to cheat instead of putting time and effort into to getting better at the game. How do you have any ounce of satisfaction in a win when you have a completely unfair advantage over everyone else. Kinda similar to men competing in womens sports.

[@JackNCoke2008]

Face it’s anti-cheat ‘breaks’ my CS2 app. I usually can go one or two Face it matches without issue, then for no apparent reason, my game bogs down to a crawl and I need to reboot my rig. This doesn’t happen when I’m playing CS without the FI anti-cheat running however. Nor does anything happen when I play Valorant with their kernel level anti-cheat running.

[@nezu_cc]

If you think cheaters wouldn't steal an identity to cheat, you're delusional. It's already happening on faceit. I mean sure, it's going to filter out most of the kids, and even a decent bit of old-time cheaters. But for some people "impossible" will never be the correct answer. I kinda miss the days when a prime account actually meant something. The thrill of playing hack vs hack on an account that costs more than a few dollars while being broke at the same time was definitely an experience.

[@thefisherman4380]

just bring back overwatch, give them to trusted Players and they who have good knowlage to the game. Vacnet 3.0 works on rage hackers tue most, sometimes. But then you have the closet cheaters or recoil cheat or aimbot. But i guess valve wil loose money if people gets banned.

[@kawaiihikari0]

Bruh Easy AC is ass lmao kernel or not doesn’t matter cheaters still gonna win GGs give up