Is Kevin Durant a Top-10 player of all time despite Nets-Celtics sweep? | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

Kevin Durant was eliminated from the postseason after a clean sweep by the Boston Celtics. However, KD is a two-time NBA champion and 12-time All-Star. Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho debate whether KD is a Top-10 player of all-time or not.
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[@SpeakOnFS1]

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[@graysonschutzman4853]

This podcast literally just did a whole video about how KD isnt top 10 and probably isnt even top 15 lol

[@septetenterprises3806]

Marcellus is talking about things he doesn’t know! Bill and Wilt played during the same time. Wilt (1960-73) and Bill (1957-1969). 63-64 Finals the Celtics win in 5!! 68-69 Finals Celtics win Game 7 in LA! Wilt scores 15, 4, 16, 8, 13, 8, 18 in those games (no foul outs). You can have all the numbers in the world (Russell Westbrook) but did it translate to wins? In Wilt’s case, it did not.

[@ananthakrishnansuresh5034]

@@graysonschutzman4853 z₹ v dvd xxdzc

[@maqsudlatif3266]

@@septetenterprises3806 man you need to google Wilt. Wilt has 2 NBA rings 1 FMVP 4 MVP 7 first team NBA while Bill Russell was there too same position. 7 Scoring Titles 11 Rebounds titles Even had 1 assist title as a center. Bill Russell had a better team than Wilt but Wilt was destroying Bill Russell.

[@septetenterprises3806]

@@maqsudlatif3266 wilt was never on a team with at least two HOFs let’s not forget he joined the best team in basketball at the time because he couldn’t get out of the east (Lakers). Jerry West, Goodrich, Greer, Cunningham, Elgin Baylor, Thurmond, Guy Rodgers, Tom Gola, Chet Walker, all in HOF, not including the other perennial all stars! The Celtics team looks better because they won’t more but individually it was even.

[@kwamayee261]

KD over Kobe is pure insanity

[@JJ-zy3zv]

He’s gonna get struck by lightning

[@joedaget777]

This whole show is jus horrible, KD ain’t even top 15 they both put him in over Wilt and even Dominique Wilkins, insane to me

[@reggie7408]

@@joedaget777 nah Kd is top 15, but he’s def not over Kobe and isn’t top 10 imo. This show is trash tho

[@joedaget777]

@@reggie7408 I respect it but idk, in my opinion I just can’t see it, I think to be up there with them you have to be able to be the leader of a team that wins a championship, and KD has never been that, to me he is a glorified Carmelo Anthony, they can score like no other but if Melo was on that warriors team in his prime he would’ve won those rings too

[@joedaget777]

@@reggie7408 but no I am not saying Carmelo is better, just a comparison

[@stinger5127]

Ya I'm done watching this show after this take by Wiley. Even if he doesn't think Kobe is top 10, there's no possible way you could justify ranking KD ahead of Kobe.

[@zacchilds3820]

This show is a joke. I usually just ignore it whenever it pops up on the recommend but every time I do watch it's even worse than I could remember.

[@DuckFanDane]

@@zacchilds3820 I mean I usually like the show but this take is horrible glad acho didn’t sign this BS

[@WhoIsYourDaddy]

Lebron over Jordan? Unsubscribed!

[@zacchilds3820]

@@DuckFanDane fair enough that was probably too generalized a statement. I'm glad it is entertaining to people. I think my issue is that from the clips I have seen ever topic is presented very matter of factly. There seems to be no passing of knowledge or conversation. Just I'm going to say an opinion and refuse to acknowledge that any part of what I am saying could possibly be wrong in anyway. It's that classic im not even going to acknowledge what you are saying because I am just waiting for you to stop talking so I can get my lines in. That is the state of most sports talk but the way it is done with the half baked insults is not for me. Every time I have turn this on one person says the other should be ashamed for thinking whatever they are covering and it's also the stupidest thing that person has ever said.

[@lonimommy8124]

Facts bro

[@kwamayee261]

Wiley using the Warriors blowing a 3-1 lead as justification as to why KD is better than is Steph is hilarious once you remember KD blew a 3-1 lead to Steph in that same playoffs 😂😂😂

[@peezydabeatmonster8112]

lol exactly 😂😂😂

[@jdspr1]

No suspension and no injured players too. 🤦‍♂️

[@damianpresha9833]

Funny thing is Klay not mentioned

[@christiannieto9827]

Was about to say this

[@dantewilliams7458]

@@jdspr1 I don’t like the excuse

[@samuraijack10]

Marcellus has a track record for Kobe hate, it's all documented and televised. There is NEVER an argument for KD to be put over Kobe all time. Kobe and KD are both top 5 all time offensive players, however on defense alone Kobe has 12 All Defensive Teams (9 First Team - tied for most, 3 Second Team) compared to KD's 0 All Team Defensive Team.

[@Traww-ys1do]

Agreed!!!!

[@xxtooshiestyxx8756]

Definitely his dumbest take yet... This man skipped Kobe all NBA/ all def accolades... Bruh it ain't even remotely close

[@jimmycharlotin7050]

@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 the media pretty much has brain the millennial thinking kobe should not be top 5 basketball player ever people who have not played the sport act like they experts

[@tomstorm7926]

You know you’re a hater when you are a die hard clippers fan. How?

[@jimmycharlotin7050]

@@tomstorm7926 Tom you saw thar garbage right are you kidding me kobe bryant would of broke that zone defense the celtics got these dudes are nothing but kobe haters imo just from a basketball standpoint on both ends of the floor he's top 5 dead or alive

[@curtcurt27]

Kevin durant over Kobe ?? LMAOOOO. Yeah no bro…… U lost me.. for good 😭

[@JBgreat]

Does this guy seriously have Durant over Kobe???

[@HollyG95]

Lol Acho came at him for that bs lol

[@JJ-zy3zv]

It’s disgustingn

[@IENetworkTV]

yep this man needs to be fired

[@stevelumumbashabazzz5087]

Ridiculous

[@camrendash5732]

@@JJ-zy3zv Its disgusting how yall worship and overrate Kobe whos not top 9 player all time

[@jordanpayton2149]

KD over Kobe??? Get this man off Television 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@justogmula4627]

😂😂😂 word, replace him

[@michaelgoodridge7582]

Absolutely 🤣🤣

[@michaelgoodridge7582]

They're getting paid for extra to say LeBron is on top.

[@godjinrai77]

Yea absolute madness 🤣

[@jenkericj]

He's only saying that because he's a Clippers fan.

[@Lloydicon]

He had KD infront of KOBE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@everythingmotivation2697]

This dude is delusional, he’s acting like Kobe averaged 10 pts a game during that 3pt. Not mention when he had to take over in the clutch, when shaq fouled out. No Kobe, no 3peat. And Kobe was a 2 way player.

[@YR-cr9db]

I Totally Agree With you I’m not watching this show anymore

[@jeremiahseavey5959]

@@YR-cr9db not watching anymore?? 😐 that's a little sensitive, but I agree kobe could be higher, but Jordan is number 1 Kobe 2 magic and then lebron.. KD doesn't make think dominance when I think about him as a player, Kobe dominant, Jordan DOMINANT, only a few players got that Dominant label

[@DAV3RAG3]

Kobe not top 10.

[@DAV3RAG3]

@Stone Colds even that’s to high.

[@jeremiahseavey5959]

@@DAV3RAG3 maybe not as high as 2 but I think he Def top ten, I'd take him over KD 7 days a week

[@Dmitch1408]

KD in front of Kobe Wiley? Now you just tripping

[@sonnyf2324]

A 5 time champ lol kd better then…right !

[@maqsudlatif3266]

Kobe is not top 10.

[@cedricbarnes9648]

@@maqsudlatif3266 If Kobe not top (which he is) KD definitely not top ten

[@maqsudlatif3266]

@@cedricbarnes9648 I agree with you

[@maqsudlatif3266]

@@cedricbarnes9648 1 Wilt 2 LeBron 3 Kareem 4 MJ 5 Magic 6 Tim Duncan 7 Bird 8 Hakeem 9 Shaq 10 Bill Russell

[@chedbeckford8067]

There is absolutely no justification for Kd being ahead of Kobe. That's just straight hate

[@camrendash5732]

So if someone thinks Durant better then Kobe its hate lol you Kobesexuals make me laugh and get feelings hurt because someone doesnt worship him like you

[@camrendash5732]

Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player Allen

[@samuelamankwa]

Kevin Durant was never a top 10 player of all time! what type of question is this?😂😂😂

[@IENetworkTV]

thank you

[@DuckFanDane]

@@tjjohnson6772 i’m mean it’s debatable whether he will be top 20 when his career is over unless he wins a championship

[@Chessbox09]

I notice the media has been quietly trying to sneak him into the top 10 over the last several weeks. I’m like when did this discussion start happening, like WTF?😆

[@20Montez20]

I felt Acho's pain listening to Marcellus trynna justify KD over Kobe 🤬

[@95Dreamshake]

I personally couldn't argue with that man after what he uttered. You can debate what's debatable, but kd over kobe is not even debatable. You can either laugh or leave the table, but not discuss that take with a straight face

[@maximuskeene8572]

wiley keeps saying that steph led the warriors to beat a weakened cavs team in the finals but never mentions that steph also led that team to beat kd after kd was up 3-1. kd never won a chip until he joined that loaded warriors team and he hasn't won anything since leaving that warriors team. kd isn't above steph so no, he's not top 10 all time

[@HollyG95]

💯💯 and Curry still got more rings than KD.

[@user-js7mo3wy4z]

Klay Thompson saved them game 6 not curry

[@shakyricLshadow1111]

@@user-js7mo3wy4z Curry had a good game 6 too, and the dagger... Klay was just on another level that game. Game 7 Curry destroyed durants okc.

[@Sherdwood38]

That's because they steph curry Haters I'm from Chicago but Stephen curry is my favorite player Even when jordan was winning Golden state warriors was my favorite team out west

[@ike.o6944]

Facts💯

[@blueflameSM]

After Wiley's abysmal take on Giannis, and now this? He shouldn't even talk basketball, my lord.

[@CarlosOrtiz-AzulBushi]

Facts. He serves as a blatant indicator that football players should not talk about basketball at all. 🧐

[@GroveStreetMedia]

What he say about Giannis ?

[@shyqyrimusta190]

@@GroveStreetMedia That he basically can't be the best player because he is not skilled enough.

[@qiqi5277]

amen

[@GroveStreetMedia]

@@shyqyrimusta190 well, lots of people thought that before he won

[@ZombieLegacy]

My argument: “How many titles did KD win before joining the 73 Win Warriors who had JUST won the chip AND JUST BEAT KD in the playoffs?” “How many titles has he won since leaving the Warriors?” You cant join a team that just won a championship and then claim you’re the reason they’re winning chips. Especially when you kept getting beat by that team.

[@kambuibomani231]

He’s the reason they’re a dynasty let’s be real lol. Without KD the dubs would be title contenders but NEVER have won another title as long as bron was in the picture with a healthy squad. That being said……. Kobe is better all time lmao

[@youngsa942]

So if KD rings dont count curry got 1 ring? so how tf is he top 10 all time with 1 ring (No kyrie or Love for that finals win) and was not even the best player IN HIS TEAM IN THE FINALS ”but he was still the best player even tho he did not win it” so what does MVP stand for? Tell me 1 top 15 all-timer with 0 fmvps😂 you cant? Was that not prime curry to or what was it? But tell me 1 player who was in his prime and ”the best player on their team” but could not win fmvp?

[@MrPhilipIrving1]

@@youngsa942 this right here is what is wrong with you NBA fans. You are not being objective at all. Titles are won, especially recent ones, with injuries being a part of the game. So if we pulling chips like that the Bucks, Lakers, Raptors, Warriors, etc rings are pulled. All of them. So stop that. Now, are we going to sit here and act like KD won those rings by himself when you have arguably the best two shooters in the league on the floor. It gave easy looks for KD so of course he looked like the best player. Tell me, was KD ever guarded with double and tripled teamed some even being at half court? Right, we all know KD's game is better then Steph's, but Steph is by far more important to the team and their success.

[@youngsa942]

@@MrPhilipIrving1 so if KD’s rings dont count take them Away for Steph too

[@mw2077]

Marcellus my dawg but any list with KD in front of Kobe is blasphemous

[@flexhenry3]

How could Durant be more offensively skilled than kobe when Durant has zero low post game dispite almost being 7 foot, kobe has a legit low post game

[@mr.castle]

But Kobe didn't have a 3pt shot either.👀

[@husseinkanteh2084]

@@mr.castle Kobe didn't have a 3 point shot. You can't be serious. I won't even try to explain it to you. Go back and watch Kobe highlights. Dude could score literally anywhere on the court

[@mr.castle]

@@husseinkanteh2084 Not true. Kobe had 32% FG from 3. You're talking nonsens3.

[@Simon-nv5zj]

@@husseinkanteh2084 he literally shot from anywhere on the court too. man put up the most bricks in nba history.

[@ocampbell1954]

What KD did with GS is like Lebron leaving the Lakers and going to win 2 more rings on Giannis team to catch Jordan in rings. You have to lead your team to the rings. GS was Curry team.

[@CriticalSurvivor]

@Lamar Stewart you dont have to tho🤔 for it to be your team. Theres not even any kind of debate anyone can give to say it wasnt Currys team. Curry most selfless player in NBA history and thats what great leaders do/are theyre selfless and allow their costars to shine alongside them. Curry didn't have to defer so much to KD but he did to make him feel welcomed and like a true part of the team. Curry couldve shot far more and they still wouldve won with KD on their team. They didnt need him. They already won w/out him thats all the proof you need🤷‍♂️. Also Iggy won finals MVP does that mean it was Iggys team tht year?🤔. Like had the Pats won the year they had Moss and Moss got the MVP would tht have made it his team🤔

[@dudaricks12]

Correction gs is draymond team curry is just the face on the package. Draymond is the leader and heart and soul of gs

[@claudiodielegende6998]

@@dudaricks12 No he is not! He is their vocal leader, but their bus driver is curry for at least a decade!

[@LunaDaGoatt]

Thank you!! Some people will never understand

[@brandonmason8927]

That’s nothing like what kd did. What kd did is like lebron losing to the suns like last postseason then joining them the next season. Kd left his team after blowing a 3-1 lead to gs then joined them the next season

[@Derpfriar]

You can make a real good argument for him to be top 25, you could make a reasonable argument for him to be top 20 but there is no way on earth, the multiverse or simulation that you can put KD in the top 10. Acho , Literally not having Wilt in the top 10 is a disgrace. Chips, ability to trancend eras and the eye test. Thats why MJ is a secure number 1

[@kendyer8761]

Russell consistently beat bill and was a 5 time mvp though.

[@tonytone3799]

I have KD at about top 25... I have Gianni's ahead of him already cause he's definitely a more complete player. If kawie Leonard wasn't hurt all the time he would be ahead too. My problem with wilt is his playoff numbers were worse than his regular season, he had "james harden syndrome" couldn't handle the pressure...

[@buchulesobayeni6445]

Its not a disgrace not having wilt

[@legendarytj9681]

@@tonytone3799 lol 😂 u gotta be a lil kid or some, top 25 ?? Really u do know basketball, wiley just Broke it down to u and Giannis not close to kd stop it , he got some catching up to do he haven’t play longer enough !!like stop it

[@tonytone3799]

@@legendarytj9681 2 mvps and 2 dpoy to KDs 1 mvp and 0 dpoy also KDs 0 all defensive teams and they both average the same in points scored in there primes. Last time I checked basketball is played on both sides of the ball. Also Gianni's was the leader and best player on a championship team unlike KD. You can have an argument that KD is better than Curry but you do not have an argument for who the leader in GS is and has been through out there dynastic run. So yes Gianni's right now is better than KD. Btw judging by your profile pic I've been watching basketball longer than you have been alive.

[@KrushGroove83]

I’m not even a Kobe fan, but to have KD ahead of him is STOOPID

[@cajeb5396]

Even me who doesn't give Kobe credit has him at 11. KD is closer to 20 than he is to Kobe

[@pjspointofview1545]

@@cajeb5396 11 is insane. Kobe had 3peated a finals run and went 2/3 with his 2nd best player not even being a top 125 player ever. Lebron Kd Shaq can’t say the same, the disrespect on Kobe name is Insane

[@cajeb5396]

@@pjspointofview1545 you can't say it's insane then just put one point like that. So what Kobe had that accomplishment? Everyone else competing for the Top10 also has accomplishments Kobe doesn't. Use logic.

[@thsu8]

@@cajeb5396 Did you know 80% of current and former players rank Kobe above LeBron? Did you know David Stern, Shaq, MJ, AI, KD, Matt Barnes, Stacks, Bruce Bowen etc. etc. all rank Kobe #2 all-time?

[@richardanyaora6324]

Big facts bro

[@aloys76]

last time i checked step swept the blazers without KD, SMH. The Seph hate i swear

[@aloys76]

@Lamar Stewart it's a very stupid argument to make that he has no final mvps. Listen to what wiley said first.

[@aloys76]

@Lamar Stewart so with that logic kawhi ring shouldn't count since both klay and kd were hurt when the raptors beat the warriors. He won't say that because kawhi plays for his team the Clippers. Ppl seem to forget that draymond got suspended which means high way to the basket for lebron and kyrie. Then game 7 their center was out. How about him saying without steph kd wouldn't have any rings at all???? At least steph won without him. He lost with westbrook in 5 games against the heat and never been back without steph. I wonder why 😆

[@aloys76]

@Lamar Stewart Maybe you should check again he got hurt in game 5. They got to the finals without kd, they beat Huston, swept Portland all without kd.

[@widowsson8192]

If Wilt isn't in your top 10, you're automatically disqualified

[@chillmeister45]

FACTS!!

[@cajeb5396]

Not even Top 12? Jesus Christ...

[@buchulesobayeni6445]

No....so who should be knocked out?

[@LunaDaGoatt]

If you have KD in your top ten you are automatically disqualified

[@widowsson8192]

@@LunaDaGoatt 😆 🤣 😂 😹

[@MrFreakazoid23]

I personally didn’t have Hakeem in my top 10 but after hearing Acho list off his accomplishments I gotta definitely rethink mine.

[@Devlon3177]

A don’t forgot some major points with Hakeem he’s number 1 all times blocks 9th in all time steals being the only big man in the top ten 12th all time scoring mind you all this came from a guy who didn’t play organized basketball till he would’ve been a junior in high school

[@santiagobuenos9673]

Hakeem underrated af for sure

[@MrFreakazoid23]

@@santiagobuenos9673 100%. I feel like that’s a generation thing though.

[@stevelumumbashabazzz5087]

Anybody who put hakeem in the top 10 knows basketball he was so great to the point that no one ever complain about him being drafted before MJ

[@rdogletree4543]

I saw a list before that had David Robinson over Hakeem which didn't make any sense to me when Hakeem schooled him in the 1995 playoffs after Robinson won MVP. They're both all-time greats but that's really not a debate.

[@reggie7408]

no, not a slight on Kd but rn I can’t put him over Jordan, Lebron, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, or Hakeem yet

[@Christopher._M]

Imagine putting kobe over KD.

[@TheKiid810]

@@Christopher._M what? He easily over KD

[@DuckFanDane]

I mean let’s be honest he’s not even over steph yet Durant needs A championship of his own to be able to lift himself from top 20

[@youngsa942]

@@DuckFanDane and curry needs a FMVP and he got 1 ring in your argument 2 was with KD but we dont count those

[@sakuragi_X]

KD over Kobe 😂 That was it for me

[@arcadion448]

I like how people today forgot Wilt Chamberlain existed.

[@darrelltampaboy2265]

Honestly my Grandfather said Wilt was more like Roy Hibbard..he just happened to be much bigger and stronger than the average 6’8 Centers in the league at the time. Kareem gave Wilt that work back in the day..

[@hunterzolomon1303]

@@darrelltampaboy2265 lol did they even play together and how old was wilt when they played against each other.

[@arcadion448]

@@darrelltampaboy2265, respectfully your grandfather is wrong. Roy Hibbert doesn't have an ounce of athleticism that Wilt Chamberlain did. Chamberlain was also a track star.

[@thediseaseisthecure]

@@hunterzolomon1303 Reading is fundamental 💩

[@JohnnyTomala33]

I have Wilt as fifth greatest of all time. I don't have Kobe in my top 10. I have the rest of the guys that guy had.

[@datsapaddlin]

I don’t think he was even if they won the series. Top 15 sure but Wilt gotta be in the top 10 😂. Respect to Hakeem though. He was a bad man.

[@HollyG95]

Tru both wilt and Hakeem should be ahead of Durant lol

[@skylergreenhaw5787]

I’m sayin they disrespecting Wilt so bad😂

[@youraverage90sguys7]

nah you tripping, hakeem is solidified in top 10, kobe is 11, hes not better than wilt, shaq, hakeem, bird, duncan or russel

[@buttkicker900]

@@youraverage90sguys7 lol you’re gonna put all centers in the top 10

[@youraverage90sguys7]

@@buttkicker900 wheter you like it or not, basketbal is a big mans game, and it was dominated by bigs majority of history, its only obvious most of the greats will be bigs, might change in the future with how the game is evolved into perimeter play now, but i doubt it as the top 3 players now are all bigs as well. last 4 years all mvps have been won by bigs, as the game has changed due ti dominant guards, so to have the bigs evolved their game. magic, jordan and lebron are the only anomalies in tbis regard, thats why theyre the top 3 out of 4 players of all time.

[@mylessmith8059]

the problem with top 10's is that there's only 10. somebody gotta go but kd aint kickin nobody out of my to 10 personally.

[@andrelesueur717]

What’s your top 10?

[@mylessmith8059]

@@andrelesueur717 in no order MJ, Magic, Kareem, Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, Shaq, Bird, Hakeem, Russell. Wilt, Dr J, Jerry West, Oscar, Moses, Steph, and KD under them. Steph, Giannis and Kd have chances to make the top 10, (as much respect as i have for Russell, the competition is not even close to the same, and the game is played completely different) but KD got some work to do cause if Steph or Giannis win this year it's scary hours for KD

[@andrelesueur717]

@@mylessmith8059 that’s your list so I’m not gonna argue but personally I got wilt in front of Hakeem.

[@mylessmith8059]

@@andrelesueur717 that's fair. I just feel like Wilt should've won more with the way the league was back then. but i can't hate on that at all

[@andrelesueur717]

@@mylessmith8059 just out of curiosity why do you have Kobe in front of Lebron?

[@matthewcharboneau733]

Kobe stayed with the same team, and is a better 2 way player than KD. KD is more efficient, but that's about it. Steph is also ahead of KD. Wilt ahead of all of them. KD barely top 15, actually top 20. He's somewhere in between

[@moxmann]

If you base it on performance in the finals it's KD ahead Steph who has been not been great in the finals which is why they needed KD.

[@bcashworld7971]

I can't take any list seriously if it doesn't have Wilt top 10.

[@andrelesueur717]

Wilt so slept on

[@Derpfriar]

amen brother , Wilt dont get the respect, he was a true beast that could trancend eras

[@stinger5127]

I hear you and I know about the insane numbers Wilt put up back in the day but I unfortunately wasn't alive to watch Wilt or Russell play live. So it's hard for me to accurately and fairly rank him if I never got to see him play.

[@johndarius18]

or any list that starts with a guy that can't shoot free throws consistently.

[@CloutCollecter]

Fax gotta replace bill

[@DuckFanDane]

No you can’t put him in the top 10 you can’t even put them in the top 12 because realistically he needs a championship to be ahead of Curry. He’s top 20 but he’s not ahead of curry. Wylie is just delusional with this take when it comes to Kevin Durant and Steph Curry. People forget that Curry beat Kevin Durant when they both had pretty even teams for the most part. That is pathetic The Kevin Durant doesn’t even have his own championship and somehow he passes Kobe Bryant was five championships and two on his own. I love how we just ignore who the teammates were . Kevin Durant lost to curry when he joined the team and there’s this revisionist history about the NBA finals in 17 and 18 yes Curry was double team and he was the main point of the offense. We want so bad to make Kevin Durant a top 10 player and a head of curry not even taking into account that curry should already have a finals MVP from 2015 he has more MVPs and Durrant has not had a championship outside of Golden State. I also love how we have revisionist history about 2016 they love to bring up that love and Irving were hurt in 2015 but refuse to bring up 2016 and the fact that iggy was hurt Bogut was hurt and curry were Hurt. That’s not even including the suspension but LeBron gets a pass for that even though Curry had to have surgery after the year and Bogut tore his ACL. I would say there is a reasonable argument that he is top 25 Kevin Durant a realistically I would say top 20 but he cannot go further up until he wins his own championship And quite honestly if he does not get another championship where he is the bus driver in his career is probably not gonna even be in the 20s probably more closer to the 30s because he never got that championship in my opinion top 25 to 30 is players that have lead their team to a championship. Yeah Acho was wrong or miss spoke But Kevin Durant was never the driver he was the rider that’s the thing and not to mention all the defensive accolades for Kobe over Durant

[@Genghiskoz]

Robert Horry has 7 rings is he better than MJ? It's not all about rings

[@DuckFanDane]

@@Genghiskoz OK yeah that’s true. What was Robert Horry ? He was a role player an extreme bus rider he wasn’t even hey costar on the championship teams so he’s not even a front seat bus rider. There is a difference between seven rings and a bus rider and six rings and a bus driver. That is such a nonsensical argument it’s not all about rings it’s about everything put together. Kevin Durant has not led a team to a championship He couldn’t beat the warrior so he decided to join them become the second option and benefit from Curry being double teamed in the finals so that left him one on one that led to the championships because obviously when you go one on one with someone like Durant he’s going to be unstoppable

[@younggod3906]

@@DuckFanDane Well Said 💯

[@kb00911]

Oh curry was hurt but he was healthy enough in the first round to drop 40 on Portland but when it comes to him losing all these excuses. Ok draymond got suspended one game you telling me the first unanimous MVP in nba history can’t get you 1 win. Anyone who thinks curry is a better player than Durant doesn’t know basketball

[@DuckFanDane]

@@younggod3906 thank you I’m just tired of this Durant is better than Curry argument it’s nonsensical and it disrespects curry

[@sirmarcus1]

Marcellus is wild n on this KD above Kobe. No day no way

[@jimmycharlotin7050]

the funny thing is kevin durant even said that kobe bryant is the best player he saw beside jordan let me come up in these shows and podcasts and I will air them out

[@Phantom-uu4kp]

Am I the only one that has the feeling that whenever KD loses his legacy is never hurt according to the media? If this was LeBron or Steph or anyone else oh boy the media would be organising a party

[@johnsurba9671]

coz majority of em are mj fans and magic fans.

[@charleseleeiii]

And I can't figure it out KD is not even close to as likeable as lebron or Steph

[@newnez7791]

@@charleseleeiii kd doesn’t sell like lebron and curry. Kd doesn’t have a positive media figure/control either unlike lebron and curry. That’s my belief

[@newrecruit100]

Lebron by most people is considered 2nd best of all time. This idea that his legacy is still in question is a myth. His legacy is only compared to MJ. That’s it.

[@therealmr47]

Durant over Kobe? You lost me my man.

[@greenthumbz2415]

Love how you had that Kobe/KD debate without mentioning defense once. Kobe was a exponentially better defender than KD was, that alone ends the debate

[@ThePrayinmantiz]

I'll take Wilt over KD any day

[@lonimommy8124]

Thank you KD over Kobe is even crazier than Lebron over Mj … I pray this is strictly for rating purposes & cap

[@calikev7]

KD over Kobe is hilarious. Marcellus really embarrassed himself on this one. I usually like to watch these football guys talking about different sports but after that take Marcellus should stick to football talk.

[@rudyturnquest2750]

Kevin in front of Kobe is madness

[@M3_86]

Shaq had the matchups to dominate in the finals. Kobe carried the lakers on all road games winning through the west. No chips for shaq without kobe. And kobe was what 21/22 and that clutch?

[@thequarantinefamily5230]

You can clearly hear in Marcellus towards the end that he messed up putting KD over Kobe you can see him start to dig with a shovel. Acho got him with the Kobe and KD debate. Very nicely done.

[@Odhran2017]

Noway lmao he's never had his own team he finally got his own team been here 3 years and done nothing except choke

[@patrickholub9698]

Dig your profile pic hahahah

[@paulettebrown3427]

Truth

[@hassanalhassan2500]

Yes curry before KD. He has three rings and one of them alone… Also, he is the better player the better leader and the engine of the team

[@domthegod7775]

how many finals MVP steph got, how many scoring titles steph got ?

[@PureKslayer]

@@domthegod7775 nobody cares about fmvp lil bro tony parker and andre iguodala arent getting put over allen iverson all time because they have fmvps you sound sped

[@PureKslayer]

@@domthegod7775 how many rings he got without steph? how many times steph been swept compared to kd? oh

[@domthegod7775]

@ashley and I just didn't say FMVP why ignore the scoring titles over all KD has a better body of work then Steph, people like you pick n choose based what to acknowledge based on how much you like that player. But facts are facts KD has a better body of work then Steph

[@jaaymurray3608]

@@domthegod7775 lmao how? Cus he got 2 MVPs after going to STEPHS team 😂

[@kharis87]

Hakeem 95 playoff run and Duncan 2003 playoff run are top 5 all time with great offense, great defending and great rebounding.

[@GroveStreetMedia]

*94

[@benjaminan1183]

Yep

[@musafawundu6718]

Wiley does not make a good argument for KD over Kobe...

[@geronimopratt7976]

My all time top 10 vs my favorite top 10 in no order: LeBron James AI Kobe Bryant TMac Michael Jordan Isiah Thomas Magic Johnson Hakeem Olajuwon Tim Duncan LeBron James Bill Russell Kobe Bryant Kareem Abdul-Jabbar David Robinson Hakeem Olajuwon Ja Morant Shaquille O'Neal Anthony Edwards Larry Bird Giannis

[@nepzkie8271]

KD number 9😂😂😂… you funny. Can’t even take this seriously

[@arnabiarnab3037]

Defence don’t count these days??? Bro really tried arguing that Kobe at 17 took 4 years to average 20 points a game😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@discosecret6363]

LeBron over MJ immediately disqualifies both lists.

[@MilesBrownRoyalty]

KD over Kobe is crazy KD went to the Finals more times than Hakeem Kobe probably should have been MVP for his 3rd Ring. Kobe led the team until Shaq had the match up advantage in the Finals, but even then Kobe BALLED OUT in the Finals.

[@drexeldragon1723]

I will never understand how some people simply disregard Wilt.

[@jeffg3063]

a top ten without Wilt. I'm done. at least it only cost me 46 seconds

[@tristmas6458]

yep. it's hard to disregard wilt

[@graysonschutzman4853]

Hakeem is the only player to win back to back with no Other all stars on his team

[@killemall923]

I think people forget about his foot work and how his shake was virtually unstoppable.

[@santiagobuenos9673]

Problem is dont think you can put him in there over Wilt/Russell/Shaq/Kareem

[@graysonschutzman4853]

@@santiagobuenos9673 hes got an argument with shaq he had a lot less help then shaq but yeah the other guys are pretty untouchable

[@charleswilliams4088]

Kobe was a lot better....defense matters and Kobe made a bunch of all defense teams

[@bigpoppa6658]

Kobe was the best player from 2005-2009. KD was never considered the best even when he won the two finals MVP. Kobe is so underrated. Among all top 10 players you could argue that Kobe had the toughest competition during his career having played in 3 different eras: the late physical 90s, early 2000 with most HoF in their prime and 3 point era.

[@youngdb9446]

Most disrespected player forsure his defense never gets mentioned

[@jimmycharlotin7050]

I hate to say this the media has tarnished kobe bryant legacy they have now in the future kobe bryant is going to be in the top 25 while lebron will be number 2 or maybe one unbelievable

[@925beats]

We just glancing over Shaq like that ????? Kobe benefitted greatly from having a criminally underrated Shaq in his prime and that's what you're missing.

[@maynardguardiano8571]

In 01 Kobe was the MVP of the playoffs and propelled the lakers to the finals and Shaq has the finals MVP bec it's the sixers no match...Shaq admit Kobe is the best player back in 01 playoffs..check Kobe's performance i the San Antonio, Sacramento and Blazers sweep....😂😂😂

[@str8tothetopshorts]

KD can never be ahead of Kobe Nd I’m no Kobe fan 💯

[@firstlast460]

Jordan is #1 by far. Kobe needs to be higher than KD. Glad to see Acho giving Bird respect.

[@devontebynum2588]

Somebody need to let Marcellus know Kobe averaged 21, 29, and 26 during the 3 peat run, knock it off with nonsense. And when he was winning his 2 with Pau kd had the pleasure of getting bounced by Kobe

[@IENetworkTV]

FIre Marcellus Wiley he put KD 2 rings with Golden state over 5 ring kobe bryant? please fire this man

[@weuhgetyou7880]

Yesterday was my last day watching this show, to put Kobe number ten all time was sickening , cold part is they actually watched Kobe play,And chose dudes that we know are not better lmao and they never actually watched 🤣😂🤣🤣

[@thsu8]

Wiley and Acho are former NFL players. Why would anyone take their basketball opinions seriously? That's like me asking Tim Legler about the NFL draft.

[@95Dreamshake]

This clipper loveboy had to endure years and years of smackdowns against the lakers, even when the clippers were better they accomplished nothing. His kobe hate is real and his point is moot

[@proson630]

Wiley must really hate Kobe it use to be a debate who's team it was shaq or Kobe fmvp doesn't always go to the best player ex tony parker in 07 over tim no one in their right mind would say tony was better then tim in 07 or that he was the driving force of the spurs kobe and shaq is one of the only duo's where both where driving this argument is only brought up for Kobe but never for magic who had the captain on his team who lost a fmvp to james worthy no one questions magic or the captain as the driving force of those teams but if its kobe that argument is brought up even tho shaq isn't considered as good as the captain was or magic was so y must shaq and Kobe be held to a higher standard then players most rank above them also Wiley most have forgotten that kd was up 3-1 on curry and lost seems like the whole world swept that under the rug personally I got kd at 15 personally give me Dirk whose less talented then kd but led his team to beat a wildly considered better opponent

[@thsu8]

Facts my brother

[@user-ze6ob3cs7m]

Did i just see two people put LeBron over Jordan and one of them put KD over Kobe !?

[@Juanro_7]

2 weeks ago the conversation was if KD’s legacy will be damaged if he doesn’t win with a 30 point game. Now, they got swept and the conversation is if he is top 10. All time top 10….. he is as good as his marketing budget. Move over Jordan lmao

[@StonerKitchen]

curry over KD simply because KD joined curry not the other way around. It was KD who wanted a piece of what the GSW already had.

[@onidtubes]

They chased KD , not the other way around.

[@bladebeast6700]

Oh, it was definitely both lol. But when the the warriors played without Steph and with KD, they were solid. But in the games Steph played and KD was out, they still had an amazing record. Steph was and is clearly the engine for that team.

[@Genghiskoz]

Curry begged Durant to join because that loss to Cleveland same would've happened in 2015 if Uncle Drew didn't get hurt

[@shakyricLshadow1111]

@@Genghiskoz but curry dragged kd in the series right before that to get to the finals 😂

[@StonerKitchen]

@@onidtubes I'm sure they put a gun to his head. Lol They have a ring without KD. How many KD got without the warriors??

[@terrancewilliams3630]

😬😬😬 He got KD over Kobe!!!!! Huh

[@Christopher._M]

Tell me why you wouldn't? I'm sure you just witnessed KD'S worst Playoff series versus the celtics. Kobe has more of those than KD. In the finals kobe is a career average 25 points 5 and 3 on 42% shooting. Go check out he played when he and shaq got swept. Go check out how he played in all the chips he won with shaq. Go check out how he lost that 3 game lead to the suns. The only reason you would have kobe over KD is because of your nostalgia. Go check his Playoff games versus the pacers.

[@ramseytomo123]

@@Christopher._M how many games has Kobe played with a player on the level of Westbrook, Kyrie, and Harden and not made the finals. If we don’t count Kobe rings with Shaq because he played with an all time great. Then why do we count KD rings with Curry and the warriors when they had just gone to back to back finals and defeated KD even though he had a 3-1 lead over Curry.

[@bigmassive69]

"KD sprinted to help."- Acho 💀😭😂🤣

[@JohnSmith-nm4zd]

Top 10 players in NBA history: 1) Michael Jordan 2) LeBron James 3) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4) Magic Johnson 5) Wilt Chamberlain 6) Bill Russell 7) Kobe Bryant 8) Larry Bird 9) Shaquille O'Neal 10) Tim Duncan

[@_moegreen5770]

All of Kobe rings have more weight than KD two rings . Even when he played with Shaq everyone knew Kobe was the closer on that team cause Shaq couldn’t hit free throws

[@thsu8]

Finally someone here with a basketball IQ over 30. Respect.

[@thsu8]

@Stone Colds If Kobe was a "sidekick" to Shaq, how was he good enough to go to three straight Finals and win two straight with Pau Gasol? If Kobe was a sidekick, why did Shaq get swept FOUR times (95 96 98 99) and then suddenly win three straight championships when Kobe entered his early prime in 2000? Btw he had All-NBA First Team guard Penny Hardaway in 95 and 96. If Kobe was a sidekick to Shaq, why does Kobe have 2 FMVP without Shaq and Shaq have 0 FMVP without Kobe? If Kobe was a sidekick, why did Shaq call him "the best player in the league by far" in May 2001, one month before their 2nd ring, after Kobe averaged 33 ppg in the 2001 Western Conference playoffs? Have you ever heard of a sidekick being called the best player in the league by his teammate?

[@joshkabler8074]

Even with a Finals win this year, KD wouldn't be top 10

[@danielabraham5901]

Agreed. And now he is swept in the 1st round.

[@richardalfaro4933]

Lol Kobe clearly the most feared player for about 17 years

[@FatStarZzzz]

Marcelus is huge on hate...it's mindblowing... He has to realize that Curry was LE first ever double UNANIMOUS MVP!! Ever First ! Can't dispute that. His point on beating Delavedova is trash for a reason; the whole play off run is important plus i'm quite sure beating LBJ on whatever series is kinda "tough" at least. Plus Mr marcelus has to take training about making takes etc... u have to vary ur angles. U mono thinker.. u gets owned on a daily routine. speaking loud and agitating hands won't help.

[@midwestent.7010]

1. MJ/LeBron (either way is fine with me) 2. LeBron/MJ (either way is fine with me) 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5. Shaq 6. Kobe 7. Tim Duncan 8. Wilt 9. Bird 10. Bill Russell

[@jagboola]

Love this I'd drop Shaq behind Tim and swap Bird and Wilt but everything else is spot on.

[@antibrotha]

Kobe was not better than Duncan or bird or Russell

[@midwestent.7010]

@@jagboola yeah I believe the top 4 is set in stone pretty much everything after is subjective I think shaq was so dominate in the paint would be hard for me to move him out of the top 5 I wouldn't mind swapping timmy to 6 and kobe to 7 tho and swapping bird and wilt is legit too

[@midwestent.7010]

@@antibrotha I'll give you duncan the other two I have to respectfully disagree

[@antibrotha]

@@midwestent.7010 bird won 3 straight mvps lol Russell won 11 chips, shaq has 3 finals mvps and Kobe is in the 10-15 range

[@cedc4825]

Never was unfortunately

[@MCspitta]

This man put KD in front of Kobe 😐

[@Conroesavage]

Crazy how kobes first teams all defense didn't even get mentioned

[@toinfinityandbeyond9249]

Kevin durant is Just a Great Role player He was Stephen Curry side Kick just like Kyrie irving is lebron james side kick Two side kicks on the Same team that's not Cohesive

[@bel4406]

😄 sidekicks don’t win mvps over the leader. Y’all kids on here I keep forgetting

[@toinfinityandbeyond9249]

@@bel4406 Side Kicks Get SWEPT THE FIRST ROUND While Stephen curry/Golden state warriors 😒 still in the PLAYOFFS

[@toinfinityandbeyond9249]

@@bel4406 KD/Nets Build a SUPERTEAM GTFOH!! Lakers didn't make it to the PLAYOFFS SUPER Bad to will go down in history as well But the Brooklyn Nets Getting SWEPT 4-0 By the Celtics Flawless Victory SWEEP 4-0 Is SUPER DUPER All time Disaster The Best dynamic Duo In the History GOT SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND!....are you Kidding Me 😒 Man!!! If you don't GTFOH!!

[@toinfinityandbeyond9249]

@@bel4406 Kawhi leonard, lebron james and Giannis antetokounmpo have done something 😳 KD Can't do Which is Carry a team being the only Superstar on the team and Having Great Roles players there's a difference between Superstar and a all star Them roles players was all stars they only had one Superstar on the team and they carry them to the finals and WON😒 2012 OKC Kevin Durant,Russell westbrook,James harden, Serge Ibaka and didn't win

[@toinfinityandbeyond9249]

@@bel4406 Kd blew a 3-1 lead against the Golden state warriors in 2016 and join them after in the same year Golden state warriors Blew a 3-1 Lead against the Cavs recently kd blew a 2-0 lead against Milwaukee bucks 2021 playoffs and Now Boston Celtics SWEEP 4-0 KD/Nets 2022 playoffs

[@lawrence208]

LOL Acho said his top 10 was not in dispute..........and then he put LeBron as his #1 smh To put things in perspective, LeBron is 4-6 in the Finals. If you go to a girls house 10 times and you only close the deal 4 out of the 10 times, can you really call yourself the GOAT?

[@MrJblazini]

No but if you've gotten the invite more than others..hanging out with the girl is better than never getting to hang out.

[@jamestaylor2979]

Only 2 of those 6 were bad tho! He was balling most of the times!! I’d say 4 times he closed the deal and 4 times he just got some head!! Still Goatish!!

[@Atlantafan21]

I think he means the players in the top 10, not necessarily their actual rankings. In that you can arrange those 10 players any way you like.

[@lawrence208]

@@jamestaylor2979 I think what a lot of people fail to understand is that NOBODY is saying a 4-6 Finals record isnt something to be proud of. How many wish they went to the finals that many times and how many wish they had 4 rings? The argument has always been in what world is 4-6 better than 6-0?

[@lawrence208]

@@Atlantafan21 this explanation woudl have merit if he had put MJ anywhere but the 1st two spots right? If LeBron and MJ are sitting in your 1 and 2 spot, are you really doing this randomly?

[@richardclark1127]

Hakeem is supremely underrated. Dude played with no one. The best #2 he had was Sampson (who was only really healthy Olajuwons first 2 years in the league), and they made it to the Finals and lost to the Dynasty Celtics. After Sampson left in 87, the Rockets didnt have anyone else of note until 1995 when they got an aging Drexler. Hakeem also has a winning record against Jordan's Bulls. In fact, the Rockets were fairly dominant against the Bulls until the Bulls added Rodman (Rockets were 11-5 when both Jordan and Olajuwon were on the court, after Rodman joined the Bulls Michael won 4 of the 5 games).

[@thsu8]

Well said, my brother. Hakeem easily over Shaq. Dream didn't have Kobe Bryant to carry him up and down the court before Dwyane Wade did the same in 2006.

[@johnboy1760]

I have never known a player be more hyped based off one element of their game. First off he’s just elite in scoring, he’s not got great handles, nor passing. As Broussard said, he essentially gets praised for his play as a big. In terms of scoring he has 4 scoring titles, 4 other players have the same or more, so as excellent as that is, let’s not act like he’s monolithic in that regard. In regards to Kobe, Kobe was a legit 2 way player, KD is a scorer with height which can prove advantageous in defensive positions. He isn’t half the defender Kobe was. Now resume, Kobe has 5 rings which he won both with and without Shaq. KD meanwhile won all his rings on Steph’s team. His playoff career record outside of those 3 years in GSW is 50%. That is not all time great. Far from it. It’s not controversial to say that if he didn’t join a stacked team to win rings, his legacy would be the same as James Harden’s. Acho is being too kind, even if we take this ridiculous argument that they each have 2 legitimate rings, we don’t throw out the other 3. Even if they count for far less they’re still a factor he has over KD who has a 50/50 record outside of GSW. Incidentally, Wiley is aware that Wilt’s second ring he wasn’t the guy on that team right? I mean it was 72, wilt was old, that was Jerry West’s team. He was the primary scorer. So to use his own argument about “driving the bus”, wilt had only the one ring by that criteria.

[@kharis87]

Jordan, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Lebron, Bird, Shaq, Wilt Hakeem, John Havlicek, Kobe Bryant, Isiah Thomas, Moses Malone, George Mikan, Steph Curry, KD, Jerry West, Dr.J, Big O. Top 20 in that order.

[@andrejohnson1703]

Move Shaq a little further down the line..

[@bigchris8578]

To put to rest this Finals MVP thing, when Kawhi won the Finals MVP, who was the driver of that Spurs team? Just because a guy wins the Finals MVP, doesn't mean he's the driver. It just means the driver used the passenger as a way to get to the designation. GSW has always been Steph's team. KD was a rider in GSW, but a very effective one.

[@focuz4899]

You're absolutely right. Even Andre Igoudala won a Finals MVP.

[@youngsa942]

So if KD rings dont count curry got 1 ring? so how tf is he top 10 all time with 1 ring (No kyrie or Love for that finals win) and was not even the best player IN HIS TEAM IN THE FINALS ”but he was still the best player even tho he did not win it” so what does MVP stand for? Tell me 1 top 15 all-timer with 0 fmvps😂 you cant? Was that not prime curry to or what was it? But tell me 1 player who was in his prime and ”the best player on their team” but could not win fmvp?

[@kerrybase8037]

Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 37,062✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,140✔️ Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,136✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,041✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.62✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time Bleacher report has Kobe #14

[@london9842]

Can’t take you seriously when you put KD over the Mamba!

[@jonathannkita]

My top 12 1.MJ,Lebron,Kareem,Magic,Bird,Wilt,Shaq,Duncan,Kobe,Hakeem,Steph and KD

[@michaelbell5]

Marcellus killed his own argument by bringing up that KD is the only player to get swept in the playoffs with a 50-40-90% series in the playoffs! Kobe who he had at #10 behind KD didn't even get swept with shooting numbers that good! At least when he got swept, I think he did once, at least he didn't play well and that's why they lost. Shoot that well and lose in a sweep? Lol 😂🤣

[@youngsa942]

Bro are you good he Said he is the only player with 50-40-90 splits in more series than anyone EVER.

[@cojretalp9228]

Finally someone said what all of the younger people are thinking, I'm taking wilt with his untouchable records over a lesser draymond. Yes I would take dray over bill anyday all day

[@godwinnii-armahokine7754]

So Marcellus says Curry won a title against a weakened Cavs team. OK. Can KD just do that on his own? Win his own title without Curry, injured opponent or not. Then we put him above Curry! What sort of nonsense is it to diminish Curry's chip without KD meanwhile KD has won nothing in his career without Steph Curry.

[@charlesbruner7983]

Achos face at 15:41 LMAO 🤣

[@mattityahuwhite4139]

Acho's list Loses ALL CREDIBILITY when he has Lebron #1 over the GREATEST Player in NBA History... MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN.... POINT BLANK PERIOD!!! & Wiley needs to NOT EVER give a BBALL top 10 ALL TIME AGAIN,by putting KD over KOBE BEAN BRYANT!!!

[@Loyalty850]

Nope 👎🏽 bron #1

[@danielabraham5901]

When anybody includes MJ's middle name, I know it is a fan boy and Skip's cousin lol.

[@jaylenflanagan1295]

You a Mj nut hugger he does nothing better than Lebron get off his nuts

[@speaktruths5274]

@@Loyalty850 Greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Bill Russell 4. Magic Johnson 5. LeBron James Seasons played LeBron 19 Jordan 15 Goat 🐐 Jordan > LeBron anyday Rings Jordan 6✔️ LeBron 4 Finals Mvps Jordan 6✔️ (most all time) LeBron 4 League Mvps Jordan 5✔️ LeBron 4 Total Mvps ( league and finals) Jordan 11✔️ (most all time) LeBron 8 Scoring titles Jordan 10✔️ (most all time) LeBron 1 Steals titles Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993) LeBron 0 All Defensive first team selections Jordan 9✔️ (tied most all time) LeBron 5 Defensive player of year Jordan 1✔️ (1988) LeBron 0 Steals per game Jordan 2.3✔️ LeBron 1.6 Points per game Jordan 30.12✔️ (1st all time) LeBron 27.09 3point% (NBA finals) Jordan 36.8%✔️ LeBron 35.2% Free throw% (NBA finals) Jordan 80.6%✔️ LeBron 73.8 % Jordan better scorer, mid range shooter, free throw shooter, 3point shooter in NBA finals, better at steals, blocks, better footwork, better on ball defender, better defensive player then LeBron James Jordan better overall player then LeBron anyday Mavericks 4-2 over Heat and yo boyfriend LeBron lost with 2 all star teammates Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh lol Jordan 31.5 ppg, 50.5% fg, 6 rings, 6 finals mvps, 5 league mvps, 11 total mvps, 10 scoring titles, 9 all defensive teams, 3x steals titles, 1x defensive player of year in 13 seasons with Chicago Bulls the best player ever Goat🐐 Jordan 6-0 and 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compared to LeBron 4-6 and 6 finals losses more all star teammates Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook Jordan wins 16 rings with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook

[@m3xic4n91]

KD is on the top 20. Steph Curry will always be above KD. Steph is top 12

[@bel4406]

Steph is NOWHERE near top 20. Facts over feelings stop

[@m3xic4n91]

@@bel4406 Steph is definitely in the top 20 and will be top 11 if he win this year

[@bel4406]

@@m3xic4n91 that’s cool but he ain’t 11.

[@bel4406]

@@m3xic4n91 he not better than Robertson Thomas or iverson so naw

[@bobbob5255]

In no particular order here are my tiers: Goats of there era: Russell, Kareem, MJ, LeBron Best player in the world for multiple years: Wilt, magic, Bird, hakeem, shaq, Duncan, kobe. Arguably the best player in the world at some point: west, Oscar, dr.J, Moses, Isaiah, k.malone, KD, Giannis, Steph. I tried to be as fair as possible and have an even amount of players from each era on each tier.

[@ik8810]

An NBA top 10 ever without Wilt??? Simply insane...

[@widowsson8192]

These two goons having LBJ over MJ is pathetic. MJ led the league in scoring, and was dpoy in the same season! Was literally the best offensive player and the best defensive player in the league. And he only won 6 championships and 6 finals mvps after that!

[@2dmartin]

This debate is about KD, and you’re focusing on LBJ vs. MJ. I know you forgot to take your ADHD medicine this morning but try to focus at the topic at hand which is KD’s inadequacy

[@dnice4145]

They both have stated this before but they both get defensive qhen they say it becuase they know it's not true.

[@widowsson8192]

@@2dmartin hahahaha u fanny!

[@trejones9751]

I think having kd over kobe is a 1000x’s more blasphemous than havin lebron over mj

[@jaylenflanagan1295]

He took way more shots than Lebron

[@amb9541]

To not have Brian Scalabrine in the top 10 is a disgrace. That man played in so many blowouts 😤

[@rizahawke]

A top 10 list without Wilt is just disrespectful. 50 years later the dude still has the most records in history.

[@firstlast4070]

Wiley should not be able to talk basketball anymore after that he said Kevin Durant is better than Kobe freaking Bryant!!!! Like Chris said yesterday KD getting to much credit cause he tall

[@TKK28]

The Boston series proves KD isn't a top 10 player yet. How does a top 10 player in his prime or close to it allow Tatum and the Celtics to clown you like that? Imo KD was exposed this year. If Tatum did that to KD, imagine what Kobe would have done to KD and no way a close to prime Kobe with this Nets squad would lose like that to Bos.

[@Blodia1990]

Kobe said KD was the ONLY player he couldn't guard period. So KD woulda rocked him

[@sheltondmello8031]

Kobe has lost multiple series in the first round in his prime, a 3-1 lead too. But he's way better than KD regardless no debate

[@bobbydigital3421]

@@sheltondmello8031 Name me those times besides against suns?

[@darwinfinche9959]

After his top ten I can no longer listen to him speak about basketball. How is Wilt not in the top ten? Let alone not the top five.

[@derrickgervin1060]

Jabbar/Jordan, LeBron, Bird, Magic, Chamberlain, Russell, Duncan, Olajuwon, Kobe

[@DeepH2Ov1]

As great as KD is, stat wise, percentage wise and efficiency wise, he is no where near Kobe!!!! No where!!!