Kevin Durant's legacy in question after Nets get swept in Round 1 | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST

Many said Kevin Durant's legacy hinged on the outcome of Game 4 of the Brooklyn Nets' playoffs series against the Boston Celtics, and now that they have been eliminated, that legacy is in question. Chris Broussard tells Antoine Walker, Nick Wright and Kevin Wildes whether he believes KD's legacy can survive this loss to the Celtics.
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[@ThePh4ntomHammer]

Again guys nothing about the excellence of the celtics

[@maddendadof3453]

@@ThePh4ntomHammer and if the Celtics win next round it will be about Giannis not being good enough or them not having Middleton. Boston not a super team so not interesting enough

[@cheetosleopard9861]

Antoine the perfect example of how the media protects kd from any due criticism

[@joedaget777]

KD is a glorified Carmelo Anthony, they can score with the best of them but they can’t be the leader of a finals team, KD is better than Melo but that’s just a comparison

[@tigerscott5929]

Right. Dude was acting like the Nets weren’t favored to win it all for 2021 and 2022 alike

[@dezz8598]

@@jordanwilliams5023 stop slurping KD and twisting the point

[@riverjao]

And the protecting KD is just way to hate on Lebron. Facts.

[@osufan77]

So funny how these dudes are making excuses for KD, but when LeBron has similar chemistry issues, it's all his fault. Hypocrisy 101.

[@ThomasFromTN]

Nick Wright always defends LeBron, too, and points out how other commentators take unfair shots at LeBron all the time. Even Broussard tries to be fairly even keeled with his takes on LeBron - especially when he's dealing with someone like Ric Bucher and Skip Bayless. "These dudes" is an unfair generalization where you're insinuating that ALL these commentators are the same. They are not.

[@tyronebray9593]

What chemistry issues? When he was with the heat or Cleveland either times? Or when he lead the Lakers to the finals?

[@Joes35]

@@tyronebray9593 when he missed the playoffs this year. Or maybe the first year with the lakers. When he thought it was a good idea to get Russ

[@taylormalone1050]

Lakers underachieved as well but if you really need to compare yourself to a 37 year old player to make your failures look better, that's just a testament to how great bron is. Will KD even be starting at 37?

[@TheFn414]

Its both there faults.

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

Putting kd in the top 10 is a hilariously bad take. And can we stop comparing KD leaving to anyone else leaving. What other top player left for his rival that he just blew a series against that had already won a title?

[@phillipgoat00]

Curry Literally changed history, kd literally joined a bandwagon. For me curry always will be a top 10 player of all time, and I am not even a warriors fan. Dude makes little kids around the globe, want to shoot long 3's because they're small. that means something

[@youraverage90sguys7]

@@phillipgoat00 if steph wins another title with the fmvp, id concur hes top 10, hes on the edge for me. theres more to it than changing the game, results matter morr, and not gonna pretend he hasnt performed at an all time great level. just not top 10 level yet.

[@angelusgnz5784]

This comment should be attached to every single KD-meatrider monologue.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

He’s not even top 40

[@angelusgnz5784]

@@youraverage90sguys7 other than getting carried by the warriors, what has he accomplished? what results has he gotten? what has performing at an all time high gotten him except a contract to join the team that won 73 games and the team that just ripped his spine out his back after coming back 3-1 on him? stop the d*ckeating

[@jaredschneider7249]

Did Antoine really say the nets weren’t expected to win the title??? They were the favorites when the season began

[@zacchilds3820]

Right. Also totally ignored why they were the 7th seed to begin with.

[@jehushaphat]

I didn't expect them to beat the Celtics, and I was right. I also didn't expect them to finish the year in the top 4 because of their health issues and over-reliance on super-star players. That's not the make of a great team. Vegas regularly has it wrong when it comes to sports, so I never buy into their "favorite" teams.

[@jaredschneider7249]

@@jehushaphat totally agree. The make up of the team didn’t make sense and the way they rely way too much on iso ball which doesn’t have success in the playoffs particularly as you get deeper. Kylie and Ben Simmons won’t help that team get any better

[@theRizzardofHoez]

Yea as soon as he uttered that, I was yelling WTF are you talking about Toine?! Just about everyone one of those talking heads picked the Nets to win it all. Even after the trade and they said Ben Simmons might not even play, they said, “as long as they have KD and Kyrie, I’m picking the Nets.” These MFers have no self awareness.

[@justdl]

@@zacchilds3820 they were favorites then also right before the playoffs in the 7th seed.

[@Lexyboogie]

I don’t wanna hear the excuses about health and fatigue when it comes to KD. Nor do I want to hear anything about chemistry when your best player should accept responsibility for being a leader and making that chemistry work. The media never gave LBJ a break when he was carrying his teams 40 minutes a game and cramping up in the Finals, nor did they give him a pass when he lost his two best teammates to injuries and lost to the Dubs in 6. I just don’t want to hear it. If people are going to talk about you as the best player in the world and LeBron‘s successor, then those excuses go right out the window. Respect to KD though for acknowledging that there are no excuses.

[@guilhermevieira6010]

Nobody gave lebron a pass in 2015? What are you talking about?

[@pleaseshutup7053]

KD not the best player

[@johnmichaelperez2289]

@@guilhermevieira6010 Yes, Skip still says that LeBron blew a 2-1 lead like they should have won against a 67 win team with the MVP without his 2nd and 3rd best players.

[@guilhermevieira6010]

@@johnmichaelperez2289 so all you got is 1 guy?

[@kareempusey5032]

Yes true but ur best player isn't always the leader, and it's obvious he's no leader, he's a very talented robin, there leader is kyrie.....which explains why they are where they are

[@ifareaged]

I can't believe this but I'll take Steph over KD because I need someone who makes the whole team better.

[@TheBlackestKnight21]

why can’t you believe it?? Steph has 2 MVPs to KD 1 , steph has 3 rings to KD 2 rings. Steph got to 3 finals in 2015 and 16 and 2019 KD got hurt and curry went off to get them to the playoffs. Curry also has changed basketball. Kd only has 4 scoring titles to stephs 2. That’s not a crazy take in any way to have steph over KD😂😂😂 you got it bro you’re right

[@derbyking8475]

@@TheBlackestKnight21 also kd got both finals mvps in 2017 and 2018 because the cavs focused on double teaming curry that’s why kds stats look better than Curry’s when u just look at the games when curry didn’t play and when kd don’t play u know who the real mvp was

[@jackjax7921]

I also remembered Curry scored 10 points in the finals and still won.

[@ifareaged]

@@jackjax7921 Yeah but analytics don't account for the amount of defensive attention he attracts, he might be the only superstar in the league who can be effective without the ball even when he doesn't score because all 5 defenders always need to know where he's on the court

[@newrecruit100]

Until Steph loses in Finals and y’all bash him And your opinions revert back to normal. Fickle fans

[@zerti86]

nick wright: "you can't take away from his legacy" antoine walker: "i have to disagree with Nick. this doesn't tarnish his legacy"

[@joshuajames3453]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Reloaded_24_7]

😆😆😆

[@ubilicious1887]

Nick's ending was 💥💣 You can always trust him to slay the haters and people in denial with his indisputable facts.

[@nickjones5495]

To be fair.. number 1 defense or not, this Boston team is a lot better, more experienced, and arguably better coached than the one LeBron faced. KD also would’ve put a 40 piece on them.. This version of the eastern conference is far better

[@razerPh]

@@nickjones5495 far better? Lol. That Celtics was the no. 1 defensive rating in 2018 lol. Don't use those words great heck. I get it Boston was a lot better this version but Lebron will not get swept in the first round and he's not going to lock down by a 6'3 or 6'6 guy named Jayson Tatum and Marcus smart🤦

[@jaredkent9350]

@@nickjones5495 Yeah, this Boston team is better than the one in 2018 but LeBron was also playing with scrubs and averaged 33/9/8.

[@raymondford4833]

K.D is overrated, he's the bus driver now and he's a choke artist.

[@khandneter463]

@@raymondford4833 Man you gotta be kidding me.

[@oenomausdoctore3400]

When Nick pulled that Stat up, That Hurt A Lot of Media Feelings.

[@mindyourbuisness8104]

Nets were definitely supposed to win the title. Heavy favorite in vegas most of the year and most gms picked them.

[@LuisSanchez-ws6yu]

Thank you!!!!

[@sadvntg]

yeah when they had harden kd and kyrie

[@YungLanxx]

@@sadvntg do you see Harden right now on the Sixers? What do you expect would be the difference?

[@seriousaleks8752]

Kyrie not getting vacced was a death sentence If he plays they have a higher seed, they still have what's left of James Harden over no Ben Simmons... KD chose the wrong point guard to play with.

[@jehushaphat]

Well Vegas isn't very savvy, that's why I never rely on them to make my bets. I never thought they would beat the Celtics and I picked them to lose in the first round. I actually wasn't even sure they'd get to the playoffs.

[@drpitaar273]

I love Kd as a player. He is one of my Favs but Broussard and Nick were preaching FACTS....He came up very small in this series. And I agree with Chris and Nick 1000%

[@josephhoward9005]

Broussard and Nick with some fire takes today. Antoine's take was an extreme L

[@williecolumbus3395]

"extreme L" LMAO

[@rockjm9876543210]

That take by CB was a thing of beauty. People do overrate KD skillset because he's 7 feet tall, but relatively speaking all time it ain't the best.

[@tellymason3946]

Did antoine really just say KD didn’t have a good team , as if that’s a good excuse. But lebron couldn’t get the same excuse in 2015 or 2007

[@sportstalkonly1442]

And 2018

[@coolrunning2006]

That's because deep down they know KD is not on lbj level

[@blytheskrieg]

And knowing that those are all losses in the finals. Not the first round.

[@jorgecardenas4342]

he declared himself as the greatest ever, kd didn’t. He wants to hold himself to those standards then play like it. He didnt.

[@sportstalkonly1442]

@@jorgecardenas4342 who gives af what kd did or didn't do? Ppl were saying durant was better. That's why the question is being raised. Not because of the goat debate. Foh

[@michelangelooliver2590]

Chris went CRAZY on KD towards the end 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love it!

[@philipoconnor5865]

I love when Nick agrees with everything Broussard says....just watch how happy he gets.

[@marztion7845]

Why are people still trying to equate KD going to GSW as Lebron going to Miami.

[@D-money813]

Right. No where near the same

[@seriousaleks8752]

Agreed.... joining a 73-9 team, which you lost to while having a 3-1 lead on them in the WCF..... compared to Lebron & Bosh joining Wade to beat the Celtics big 3, while Miami missed the playoffs the year before ? or lost in the first round cant remember..... 2 completely different situations. Also this year ''at least nets made the playoffs compared to lakers'' well yeaah but it doesnt matter if you got swept to a team Lebron has DOMINATED for a decade xDDD

[@Dontresssmith3757]

Absolutely agree its not even close there move are 2 different

[@newrecruit100]

KD one upped him. He just did it better. Point is that both were super teams and were expected to win countless rings.

[@D-money813]

@@newrecruit100 no, he didn’t one up nothing. He went the lame route

[@kennethstone4590]

Nick just annihilated KD and I think he’s absolutely right!!! Just cause the nets didn’t meet expectation gives them no excuse

[@YungG17]

Antoine sounds like revisionist history making excuses for KD lmao

[@SotHhit]

lmao, “dont know where nets winning it all comes from” is he joking? it came from most the media picking them to win it all before the season and again when ben simmons came thinking hed play then more from vagas making them the odds favorites to win it all

[@vilmabracero2429]

Walker is lying he said few weeks ago , that with KD and Kyrie will be hard for Celtics to win the first round 🤦🏻‍♀️ now he explain it opposite what he just said after they won to Cleveland!!! The media always wrong and never admitted 👿

[@cv1368]

Sounds like a former player who actually played and knows wat he’s talking bout.

[@YungG17]

@@cv1368 and you sound like a kd nut rider, makes sense.

[@dineshpoudel723]

Chris Broussard speaking FACTS 🗣💯

[@zachboylan6694]

WERENT SUPPOSED TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP??? One of the worst takes ever. “Yeah we have Irving and Durant but we’re not going for the title” 🤣🤣😂

[@rjohnson1183]

He's referring to how everything planned out. Kyrie with the mandate, Harden requesting a trade, etc... now before the season started, yes people were projecting them to win.

[@kaiquinland689]

antoine regularly has the worst takes, don’t know how he’s still invited

[@jehushaphat]

I never thought they'd get past the Celtics. Only casuals did.

[@jehushaphat]

@@kaiquinland689 On the contrary, he generally has the most sensible takes. However, in this case, I disagree with him.

[@MmaMadman85]

Bro he is talking about the context of the playoff picture, I couldn't find a single person picking the Nets to win the title, let alone get passed the Bucks. Obviously if KD doesn't get injured, no mandate, and Harden doesn't quit on the team they probably the 1 seed with huge playoff expectations, but that isn't the real story now is it dork.

[@chrissalazar7388]

Steph never been swept, even when his second best player was David Lee in 2013. KD deserves all the slander for how he turned bets into his team and has gone nowhere

[@damianpresha9833]

Steph have always had a great team around him courtesy of Bob Myers/Jerry West.

[@northside4767]

@@damianpresha9833 Not accurate.

[@damianpresha9833]

@@northside4767 Prove me wrong

[@johnhancock1362]

@@damianpresha9833 KD had a much better Russ along with harden for a few years. Then Russ and ibaka and good role players. They just both always came up short. Then KD LEFT the warriors and has had heavy input on the nets and decided to follow kyrie. Whos fault is that? What’s worse is warriors may win another ring this year while KD was just swept. That’ll for sure show just how much better of an impact Curry makes.

[@seriousaleks8752]

People dont get why KD left Steph. His whole GSW stint people were making fun of him of joining an unstoppable team, so *he left to prove himself* which is admirable. Sure it backfired hillariously but he Left Steph for a good reason, he even tore his achillies trying to 3peat, that's heart

[@vishnuprakash81]

Antoine is dead wrong. All four games were really close and their roles players did step up. If their big guns stepped a lil more than they did , this would have been a different series.

[@williecolumbus3395]

Facts!

[@OzoneDaDon]

Facts

[@seriousaleks8752]

Keep the same energy if this was Lebron, y'all would have killed him over KD's play or Kyrie's comments. Just shows how Lebron is hold to unachievable standards

[@Longasseboy]

Lebron didn’t make the play in… KD got swept. Both underachieved and should be held accountable

[@pepenips5095]

Lbj is 37… not the same

[@jorgecardenas4342]

why he call himself the greatest then ? people wouldn’t be on him like this if he didn’t say that. He asked for it now u got to play like it. He’s been hated on a lot bc of the level HE put himself on

[@seriousaleks8752]

@@jorgecardenas4342 Michael Jordan believed he was the best - people : wow what a champion amazing, we love his confidence ! Lebron : I believe I am the best - people : wow how dare he compare himself to the god Mr MJ. what a bum, Lebum Every player should have the goal of becoming best player, no matter how possible it is MJ is the greatest and Lebron is 2nd. But you people act like Lebron is barely top 50

[@seriousaleks8752]

@@Longasseboy Lebron was still winning rings at 33 years old, while KD is getting swept at 33. Playing with useless Kyrie and Kyrie situation made Harden quit and ask for a trade

[@maxxdank]

Much respect to Chris, always keepin it real

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

Chris is to much of a Jordan fanboy.

[@mproc6339]

Real wrong

[@mugeshjeyakumar6260]

Giannis didn’t have a good enough team when they didn’t win the nba in both his mvp seasons but I don’t see him getting a pass in fact people still bring it up today even tho he’s improved IMMENSELY and dropped one of the best best finals performance ever last year. The goal posts keep getting moved

[@eliasmartin9842]

Yeah I remember everyone saying the Giannis problem was solved by building a wall, that he wasn't Batman on his team. I remember people saying he needs to get out of Milwaukee ASAP. People still bring up the wall to discredit Giannis, yet when Durant bricks it 4 games in a row it's somehow excusable.

[@mugeshjeyakumar6260]

@@eliasmartin9842 for real. The wall don’t work no more he was 24 and 25 when that happened and was still working on his craft. He’s a better player every single year and now he’s unstoppable.

[@Gubs2]

Maybe I’m overreacting but this kinda showed me that curry>kd all time. Yeah Durant is probably the better individual player but curry makes his teams better

[@snekid.]

Why is kd better tho, like what does he do better than steph

[@therightopinion4619]

@@snekid. he’s easily a better defender but I agree stephs impact is better than KD’s.

[@Gubs2]

@@snekid. better 1 on 1 shot creator, defender, and all around scorer. I’d take steph tho cause he creates great shots for his teammates without needing the ball

[@RustyShackleford997]

Making your team better makes you a a better complimentary player. It doesn’t make you a better player head to head . KD won both Finals MVPs when they played together….

[@Tojohiruma]

@@snekid. Kd is a better 1v1 player, but basketball is played 5v5, steph curry is a better 5v5 basketball player, plain and simple.

[@mahmoudwaheed2790]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, KD needed Steph and the Warriors more than Steph and the Warriors needed KD. they've already won a championship without him, now he may have been the best player on Golden State but it was Steph's team. and that's one of the reasons KD had to leave.

[@jqualls7901]

So why did Draymond call KD?!! 🤔

[@mahmoudwaheed2790]

@@jqualls7901 I didn't say that the Warriors didn't need him, I said he needed the Warriors more.

[@northside4767]

@@jqualls7901 because he was the best available option, realistically they needed a marginal upgrade from Harrison Barnes’s production and they would’ve been fine.

[@Eric42000]

The Warriors didn't need KD simple as that. Adding one more good role player would've been good enough adding a superstar to a team that made the finals 2 years in a row and won one of those years...was pathetic 😂

[@jqualls7901]

@@Eric42000 I agree with your comment 💯%, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY CALLED HIM EVEN AS A TEAM WENT TO GO MEET KD TO PITCH HIM ON COMIN TO THE TEAM‼️💯💯

[@danielgarth3806]

This is crazy. Now nobody expected them to win. What a difference a couple weeks make.

[@joeymanny]

Everybody bet Nets to win all since January 2022

[@trejones2374]

Nah, ion wanna hear the excuses , if this was Bron, Steph or anyone else, they’d get crucified

[@GSthe3rd]

Steph would get a pass lol

[@robertkwanga]

@@GSthe3rd Pass? Lol...Skip always says, but Steph in games 5,6 and 7...Rob Parker too...Max Kellerman as well... Steph gets no pass

[@warriorj8658]

Skip trashes Steph and praises Ben Simmons lol

[@temuphalgunreddy434]

@@warriorj8658 right bro Hippocratic in television media history

[@khalillegend8275]

KD is not higher on the all time list than Steph.

[@encoredp14]

Tf

[@khaliqsantos9055]

KD always had it easy in his career, 0 adversity. Hes always played with superstars, never had any real stress. The one time he had an opportunity to prove himself, he chokes

[@emetechad4621]

He had stress in okc that’s why he left

[@m.l.scylla4840]

Hardest road though…

[@kylecooper139]

@@emetechad4621 Westbrook performed out of his mind to get OKC up 3-1. KD shot 10-30 in Game 5, 6 and 7 then joined that team afterwards. Please stop it.

[@neelp323]

Love me some walker but saying they weren't supposed to win the title this year when they were pre-season favorites is just wrong. Idc that they were in the play in, that was due to the choices they made. If KD is the greatest player he should be able to carry a team out of the first round.

[@boogieblackwell5821]

Well, you know Walker picked Boston from the beginning.

[@leoregulus5842]

I am sorry Walker but getting swept does hurt his legacy...so you are telling between Kyrie Irvin who is supposed to be better than Allen Iverson according to many and Kevin Durant who according to Colin the only player that could beat Michael Jordan 1 on 1 (which is laughable) could not win a single game in the playoff when it matters!!!

[@leoregulus5842]

@Virgin Island Yes...it does!!!

[@McGomezAddams]

KD overrated and over protected

[@lyonelcoleman]

Walker is dumb. They were a betting favorite and were #1 in the east I'm December. Now because they fell to a 7 seed and in the play-in that's an excuse? BUT he's one of the greatest and can't get out the first round?

[@gogoof1791]

True but they also had the worst matchup for them, if they play any other team they definitely win multiple games and even the series. Also the sweep is one thing but the closeness of the games it probably was the closest sweep I’ve ever seen. But yes the nets should’ve won Atleast one

[@lyonelcoleman]

@@gogoof1791 you're not wrong. If you are the favorite...which Boston was not favored to win this series...there's no excuse to get swept. I hate bringing up bron BUT he played Boston when they had #1 defense and worst talent and didn't get swept.

[@gogoof1791]

@@lyonelcoleman what are you talking about the Celtics were favoured by most media outlets to beat the nets it just wasn’t a sweep

[@lyonelcoleman]

@@gogoof1791 I'm not talking media..I'm talking BETTING favorites. Read what I posted.

[@gogoof1791]

@@lyonelcoleman yes but being a betting favourite isn’t the thing that people look to unless it’s football, many times a betting favourite is based on the names of players and not on full teams, and it wasn’t all betting sites that had the nets favoured.

[@SSJRome]

His legacy is always gonna be in question because still he hasn’t accomplished anything without Steph Curry

[@riverofcustard5027]

Curry hasn’t done anything since KD left either

[@kennethdunn6650]

@@riverofcustard5027 ya but the difference is curry already had a chip KD actually hasn’t won anything without steph

[@johnhancock1362]

@@riverofcustard5027 he’s finna win this year, wym lol

[@mahamedahmed8494]

@@kennethdunn6650 when kyrie and Kevin love got injured?abd when Lebron got them back he beat them and they cried for kd

[@kennethdunn6650]

@@mahamedahmed8494 don’t matter injury’s are part of the game still gotta give him credit for a ring can’t give it to KD

[@calebcicero7727]

if lebron replaced KD not only would they not get swept but he also wouldn’t get these excuses

[@williecolumbus3395]

FACTS!!!

[@OzoneDaDon]

Stop Lebron Played on a Team that was Supposed to meet KD’s team in the finals & he couldn’t even make it to the play-in 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ STOP Overrating Both players, Because both have “SUUUUPPER INFLATED” resumes that lack 👉🏽OBJECTIVELY👈🏽Scrutinized substance to them

[@danilohernandez6617]

@@OzoneDaDon LeBron might have had a bad season team record wise but he isn't getting clamped and owned by Jason Tatum that a fact.

[@OzoneDaDon]

@@danilohernandez6617 NOT a Fact But I get your Fandom Bias but HONESTLY maybe your right Lebron would 👉🏽NEVER👈🏽 let Jason Tatum lock🔒 him up Ala KD MAYBE he’d lock his self up again like 2011 LOL!!!😂😂😂

[@mrmillennium2697]

Also Broussard went deep with this one

[@DA_King1]

Why does KD get a pass, but Lebron never does? KD is great, but he has never proven he can’t single handily carry a team on his back like Lebron has.

[@Joes35]

Who’s giving him a pass lol? He’s getting killed right now. Rightfully so.

[@taylormalone1050]

get a pass? he seems to be getting roasted pretty hard this week.

[@madhavrajesh8812]

Among fans, KD gets crucified to almost Lebron level. Also, no one thinks KD is in the goat conversation or on Lebron’s level all time. But you’re right, the media seems to generally excuse KD more. If it was Lebron, Steph or Giannis they’d be killed way more for this by the media.

[@kcakiid]

I think we know KD has or had a very fragile ego, so they backed off on him. Plus nobody wants KD moms calling them to defend they son lmao

[@AphasicMute]

And to think.... We all wouldnt even have this conversation if this series went six or seven with Boston still winning. But..a sweep. With kd and kai....come on now...

[@Ybdubs]

This series literally exposed KD for who he truly is and isn't. He is just a 7 footer who can score. He isn't a great leader, passer, defender, etc. If he isn't scoring he literally falls apart mentally and contributes nothing else to the team like the other all time greats.

[@jonathankim6755]

perfect analysis

[@mproc6339]

📌

[@ibningram5940]

MJ can take over a game defensively... I'm just saying!

[@djrocha1791]

What hurts KD legacy is not that he lost to celtics, what hurt is the timing. He left gsw and never win atleast east final conference, now the narrative is he cant win without going to a stack superteam ever.

[@afrofree4950]

Perfectly said

[@Horsbreh]

Plus, the Warriors look like they're back to being title contending Warriors. *Really* bad timing.

[@dantewilliams7458]

If golden state wins a championship this year Durant is finished

[@lllightskindude]

@@dantewilliams7458 yep he is finished

[@abdulgaines9450]

I don't think KD is better all-time than Isiah Thomas. Zeke won back to back titles in an era with two dynasties running at the same time in LA and Boston, and Jordan beginning his ascent in the NBA. Zeke took down two dynasties and held at bay another in Chicago for multiple years. Zeke has serious feathers in his cap, the feathers in the cap KD doesn't have.

[@mahamedahmed8494]

Bro said Isiah 💀💀💀kd top 15

[@coops1992]

Jordan was waaay better on driving layups, dunks and mid range fadeaways than KD. Durant just shoots way too many jumpshots these days.

[@Cosmo-Kramer]

Wow, what a scathing indictment of KD. I don't hate him, either. But this was a great segment. And thank you Nick and Broussard for acknowledging the greatness of Dr. J, who is way too often underrated in "All-Time Great" discussions.

[@justogmula4627]

WOOW THE EXCUSE FOR KD 🤣🤣

[@3ricegr3at]

Broussard saw the light in this segment 😂 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@melvinbarnett1910]

Durant was the best player in the world when his daddy Steph and uncle Klay took him to championships and allowed him to be MVP, as for my second favorite player Kyrie: he's been falling off flat earth ever since he made that shot.

[@FrameCounting]

Lol

[@DemonTime08]

I believe bron has 2 more rings if kd doesn't make that move then ultimately he'd be sitting at 6 but who knows at the very least he wins 1 more against them he had their number after that comeback win kd just made it too much for that Cleveland team.

[@cheerioss-9121]

You don’t remember that 2016 series correctly if you’re saying this. LeBron and Kyrie had to play out of their mind to even make that comeback possible this is with the draymond suspension, the curry injury, Steph and Klay playing like absolute trash, Barnes looked like he forgot how to play basketball, draymond was the only guy that showed up, him and the bench and they were up 3-1 on cleveland.. The thing that made the KD move so annoying is because Golden state could’ve legit ran it back and probably won without making ANY moves. But they had room to sign another max player so that offseason even if Durant didn’t come the warriors were going to be vastly better than that 73 win team we seen.

[@michaeljohnson7945]

@@cheerioss-9121 Yeah, people are forgetting it took a herculean effort for Cleveland to come back in that series. LeBron James and Kyrie Irving each scored 41 points for Cleveland to take Game 5. Golden State started playing tight in Game 6, with Harrison Barnes not able to buy a shot and Stephen Curry making boneheaded plays in Games 6 and 7. And even with all that, Golden State was only a few plays away from winning that series.

[@FunBox.]

6:36 - 7:06 was a surprising take coming from Broussard

[@Dontresssmith3757]

They was the favorites to win now ppl backtracking smfh🤦

[@prchdm]

Definitely top 20, maybe top 15. But that's as far as it gets.

[@coops1992]

Yep, he is on pair with Dirk. And I still give edge to Dirk cause he beat Big Three in the NBA Finals.

[@jackjax7921]

@@coops1992 Dirk has DYOP Tyson Chandler and All stars Jason Kidd anf Shawn Marion what do you mean he beat him by himself?

[@cheerioss-9121]

@@jackjax7921 😐

[@michaeljohnson7945]

@@jackjax7921 Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion were past their primes at that point.

[@jeffreydomingo9478]

Remember people saying kd is better than lebron because of those 2 finals? He had it easy on gs because the defense cant focus on him alone because of steph and klay. Kd hasnt won anything after leaving gs.

[@thekingishere4161]

Not having a good team? How many superstars do you need to win? They have 2 of the best players in the league. The bench is not that bad either. They do have a sound team. Give Lebron the same roster at 33 years old, what do you think would have happened?

[@williecolumbus3395]

EXACTLY what I said too!!!

[@larrystallworth607]

Give LeBron that roster now, and its a championship

[@Jikjuka]

Perfect take from Nick and Chris, I agree completely.

[@33corsaire]

Antoine is why former players mostly make bad analysts… too busy protecting players feelings… Nets were the favorites to win it all at the start of the season AND at the start of the playoffs… But he thinks no one expected them to do anything???

[@cheetosleopard9861]

I just see no way for kd to break into top 10 all time especially the ages he’s at

[@rickrude7916]

Losing is not the issue, it is the way KD played that is the main knock on his legacy.

[@williecolumbus3395]

Bigg FACTZ!!!

[@ravismith9083]

A big factor to the way he played. But losing is also another issue. They were the favorites by a mile. By the sports book, by the media, by everyone. They were the team to beat in everyone's eyes. It's was always the nets.

[@rickrude7916]

@@ravismith9083 They were favorites because of the KD and Kyrie pairing, nothing else. If KD had played to his standard and lose then his legacy would not be impacted. You could easily blame chemistry, Kyrie's absence or Nash's coaching in this scenario.

[@ravismith9083]

@@rickrude7916 so no harden in there? 🤔

[@rickrude7916]

@@ravismith9083 Yes, you are absolutely right. Harden was also part of the reason. I somehow forgot about him already lol

[@MaarSRT]

Man KD hair in the thumbnail is just becoming historical bad😂😂

[@sekokhan5307]

2:12 wtf? EVERYONE was saying they were gonna win lmaooo

[@chocolatethunder1941]

It doesn't impact KDs legacy outside of the time he joined a 73 win warriors team he's been a disappointment in the playoffs and this year is just par for the course

[@onemilkyway]

Lol the guy mentioned Ben Simmons like ge was gonna make a difference. NOw we know the real finals mvp should of been during the Warriors champion run. ..Steph not KD.

[@kareempusey5032]

You know what, this was one of Knicks best takes, tht top 10 argument is as strong asf

[@tahira.7914]

Nets treated that Ben Simmons game when they played the sixers like a playoff game and now they swept clowns 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ThereIsNoTrueLove]

i kinda feel bad for KD next season he will have to deal with Kyrie AND ben simmons

[@giffondhall2016]

I don't

[@thricegreat3643]

8:26 nick sounds like a congregation agreeing with a preachers sermon 😂

[@bosslady83]

Lol I had to watch it again after this comment sounded just like some amen’s and hallelujah lol.

[@JordanMerrell]

Idk why but Nick co-signing Broussard for a minute straight was funny lol

[@AceTheCapo823]

I don’t think you can go backwards but I do think pple can jump the gun and crown you something prematurely, an argument can be made that pple jumped the gun wit kyrie and kd

[@user-xv1sr3uy7p]

Funny asf that kd gets a pass from so many people. It’s so surprising. I agree w/ Charles Barkley, kd is a bus rider def not a #1 guy

[@CardinalChris502]

Bro if this was Lebron all these "Jordan and Kobe would never" old heads would be out with pitch forks, shovels, and shotguns to slander Lebron. This "Caping for KD" gotta stop man. Ya'll was saying the Nets was the favorite for 2 years man!

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

****THANK YOU!!! **** FINALLY SOME COMMON SENSE! I've been listening to so many people talking about how KD is a better scorer than MJ. He's 7 feet tall. You can't teach that. Blah, blah, blah. I've said this for years and Pat Bev, for one game, started to show that I was right and it's that if you get physical with KD, he's not the same player. I implore anyone who never watched MJ in his prime to go watch any playoff Pistons/Bulls or Knicks/Bulls games and tell me if KD would be able to stand up to the *BEATING* MJ took night in and night out. Go look at the play where Dennis Rodman shoved Scottie Pippen into the stanchion and tell me if KD gets up from that. FINALLY people are saying what has been obvious to me for years: KD is wonderful, but he's a product of today's NBA, with its softer rules and defenses. I guarantee you if you transported KD back to 1989 and put Dennis Rodman on him, KD wouldn't score 15 points!

[@SeanDaNerd]

Ive been saying it for years. Just because KD is better at iso, it does not make him better than Stephen Curry.

[@ronaldpatterson1701]

Antoine is a terrible analyst! He was all on Brooklyn earlier this year, but now all of a sudden he's talking about they weren't expected to win!!😳😅

[@dattykun]

It's always next season with the nets 🤣🤣🤣 Raptors fan btw praying for the doc rivers curse

[@ronaldpatterson1701]

@@dattykun If them boys don't pull they head out they *ss and beat them next game, that might happen again this year and they won't be able to blame Ben Simmons this time!😳🤯😅😅

[@boogieblackwell5821]

Yes. Please let "the best duo of all time" end now.

[@kaytwo_]

Its impossible to break the top 10. (Not in order) Wilt Mj Kareem Lebron Kobe Magic Bird Duncan Russell Shaq

[@cheetosleopard9861]

Agreed the only person that could slide out of that top 10 is Kobe

[@erikkdane8485]

Nick was on point with everything he said.

[@drrobinson1234]

I wonder what sports analysts gonna talk about now without Lakers or nets because I swear that’s all I heard about all year

[@MikeBannShow]

They might actually have to talk about good teams 😱

[@coops1992]

Next year Clippers coming back to top seed in the West.

[@mikelkeith2115]

Sorry Antonio Nick is right, it does affect KD's legacy, number one for listening to that fool Kyrie Irving ,two for having being coached by Steve Nash, who he signed off on it. Whose fault is that. Life is nothing but an algebraic equation a + b = C.

[@buschg7106]

Nick is ON POINT today

[@josephhornbuckle9456]

Nick forgot to mention in that tweet that he was also swept by KD’s team that year

[@jaamal6369]

Thank you Broussard, somebody finally said after all these years, KD ain't all that when it comes to dribbling, passing, he don't even drive like that fr, he can handle it but it's not something crazy, and that's no knock on KD, he's just a great shooter and he's long so he can shoot over most of his defenders,

[@newrecruit100]

KD is an elite all round player. Simplifying him as a shooter is ridiculous. He’s a very good passer, very good handle, very good defender and elite scorer.

[@ravismith9083]

@@newrecruit100 you sure about that. Because without golden state, kd did nothing. Was nothing. Was just another good team in okc with basic playoff hopes. Boston exposed him. Keep the same energy we do on lebron when he loses. We always and I mean always beat on lebron if he doesn't win it all. He could go to the edge of it all and we would beat him down but if he won, then it would be because of someone else.

[@newrecruit100]

@@ravismith9083 done nothing? Has MVP, has the most scoring titles of his era. 2nd best player in the league majority of his career. Countless all NBA teams. But yeah, done nothing. And this Lebron thing people bring up is such a lie and so outdated. 2007, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 he got a pass because he was clearly overmatched.

[@aaam8999]

The reality is he should have stayed with the Warriors and dominate the league for a decade with Steph. Going to Brooklyn was a mistake. If he really wanted to leave Golden State that bad he should have gone to the Knicks.

[@Adam-zy9fv]

He wanted to be the bus driver on a championship team, and now that he’s failed he won’t take accountability for it

[@michaeljohnson7945]

It wasn't as much as going to Brooklyn was the mistake, but Kevin Durant's biggest mistake was hooking up with Kyrie Irving. I never understood why did some people think a Durant-Irving duo would work, given Irving's shoot-first, dribble-heavy style, injury history and the toxic chemistry that disrupts teams.

[@gtran09]

The nets got two robins on the team and no Batman.

[@HeavyChevy404]

Sir Chuck hit the nail on the head with that best Bus 🚌 line. N it is amazing to me how much Hakeem the dream is looked over as much as bird does; knowing well there skills and footwork along with birds trash talk was legendary. Foh here with KD being in top 10. A.I the answer could’ve done more with what KD had then KD.

[@Michael_Page]

Durant was the best player in the league when the Warriors were thumping the league. Steph was arguably just as important offensively, but Durant also played elite help defense and brilliant iso ball in addition to being an excellent cog in their machine. Durant has held his own statistically in his playoff matchups with Bron and Giannis. Durant definitely did not help his case this season, but he has a handful of years to try to tie/pass Bron in terms of championships. If/when that happens, the narrative changes.

[@soleil3gs]

Steph Curry is better all time than KD

[@mahamedahmed8494]

Funny,when they were on the same team who was better?

[@oenomausdoctore3400]

Best show Take All day from all the shows today

[@lefty577]

Brussard made some very good points regarding how durant is judged relative to his height in terms of his skill level. Interesting perspective. Think in terms of great pound for pound fighters and fighters that are great only in their weight class.🤔

[@limpsnips8876]

With all due respect it’s rather incredible how dumb everything was that came out of that dude’s mouth. On so many levels.

[@amitpalbains9361]

I get Giannis getting ahead of Durant. Shoot, Giannis just might pass Lebron. But Steph? I like Steph but there’s a reason Steph has never won a finals MVP. Every time KD has been to the finals, he’s been the best or second best player on the court. Curry can’t say that. He’s typically been the third best player on the court.

[@chelseagrin4242]

Steph beat kd up by 3-1 then kd decided to join them who u think is the better player? plus kd can get more open shots because of steph so stop with the curry slander

[@MegaUnavailableusern]

Giannis needs minimum 4 titles to pass lebron. I doubt that would happen.

[@bjrowland25]

@@chelseagrin4242 I don’t understand why people don’t grasp that concept, it’s simple.

[@juicyfruitjay]

You KNOW KD watched this and cried, then got angry and hopped on his burners and went to town all over social media platforms trying to save face. He’s an all time great but this was his moment to prove he belongs top 10 and he blew it big time and there is no turning back for him.

[@ngkky]

To me Doctor J is the second greatest small forward ever, only behind LBJ. His first five ABA seasons from age 21 to 26 was as great a first five seasons for any players in ABA/NBA history ... 3 League MVPs, 3 Scoring Titles, 2 Finals MVPs, 2 League Championships.

[@Quique-bl5hu]

KD legacy is nothing without Steph. In my eyes he has no rings. And the Nets were the 1st seed at one point. So yes we expected at least a deep playoff run

[@bangladeshirealtor]

not really they would have played milwaukee next in a best case scenario . they are light up front ….it’s a bad matchup against either team .

[@lorileon2816]

@@bangladeshirealtor nah. Lebron beat this Celtics by himself. KD got swept. Hold the L

[@bangladeshirealtor]

@@lorileon2816 uh what does lebron have to do with my comment lol u are a lil lebron obssesed aren’t you ? even though these players weren’t in their prime when he supposedly beat a team by ‘himself ‘ playing a team sport , but all that is irrelevant . lebron been home holding all the Ls lol

[@lorileon2816]

@@bangladeshirealtor KD has been holding a lot more. Could only win a chip with the best regular season team. Sit down bro. KD is nice but hes in the same class with AD, Lillard, PG, not Lebron, Steph, Kawhi. Wish you the best on your coping

[@bangladeshirealtor]

@@lorileon2816 coping with that lmao ? i am not obsessed with these athletes like you lebron boy….they don’t know of your existence ….wish you would get a life instead of idolizing professional athletes who don’t give a F about u

[@silvia393]

Remember a few years ago when people tried to compare Durant to LeBron. LMFAO Good times good times.

[@larrystallworth607]

There's no comparison, none

[@treblackwell7559]

Stop blaming the coaching when both KD and Kyrie said they don’t need a head coach. They said they could be the head coach and things would be fine.

[@xeon0998]

My favorite line ever. Brooklyn's line up at the beginning of the season: Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, James Harden. This random guy: We gotta stop acting like they were expecting to win the championship 🤣🤣🤣

[@dblocknyc]

Yeahhh i'm shocked. On my ALL TIME list KD just fell back a few spots to right behind Curry. Giannis will pass them both, its just a matter of putting in more years. In this era i have LeBron, and Giannis will be ahead of Curry due to his overall game and playing defense.

[@ElPIMPADElic2]

Best crew for talking basketball on all networks

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

I agree with nick, there is at least 15+ guys ahead of Kevin Durant on the all time list.