Is Lamar Jackson A Playoff Choker?

[@jamesh.8632]

As a ravens fan I’m grateful we have Lamar. But damn it’s more frustrating to me because we keep pretending like next time it will be different. Best rushing attack in the league and we abandon the run in the AFC championship game??

[@MazeDaGr8]

Yeah that was absolute pain to look at, that's also an indictment on the coaching as well

[@Warmaker01]

I'm a 49ers fan and I know that feeling. Lead in the super bowls with a crushing run attack which is abandoned. Our coach hasn't figured it out in 3 SB appearances.

[@WhatAG23]

The NFL definitely told them to let the chiefs win for the Taylor Swift money.

[@Athleteforeverr]

We gonna get over the hump. Especially with henry now

[@ChiefGore429]

As a chief fan with only one weakness on defense, thank you so much for not running. 🙏🥳

[@paxtonr44]

I think that the main problem with him is that he's now gained the reputation of a playoff choker, and that could be affecting him mentally whenever he's playing in a big game. Goes to show how important mind games are at these stages in the season. My beloved Niners have already had this reputation as a team, and now I think Lamar has it as a player. He's an amazing quarterback, but also a perfect example of how important your mentality is in sports.

[@aquavgc7546]

Good.

[@abdihassan328]

Good

[@greysunhunter2765]

Good

[@Jerbt]

Good

[@gaelx22AZ]

Good.

[@Braylon1997]

In my opinion the media is treating him like Peyton Manning before he won his two rings

[@MazeDaGr8]

Exactly but people seem to forget that

[@maskedman5657]

Not the media. Just Baltimore fans

[@ErikCB912]

Yes I was saying that to someone else, that Lamar Jackson is like the Peyton Manning of running QBs and he’s comparable to Peyton Manning pre 2006. However there’s no guarantee Lamar wins any rings.

[@nightmarekilo84]

@@maskedman5657no it’s both

[@nightmarekilo84]

@@ErikCB912well I mean he’s getting closer every year? First and second “he won’t make it past the first round” he makes it past the first round…. “ he won’t make it past the divisional” he makes it past the divisional now it’s “he’ll never make it to the Super Bowl” ? I mean he’s been defying odds his whole career and proving people wrong some QBs are just slow at starting he’s not gonna be mahomes and start out hot

[@Masta_jay]

I live in Baltimore(Not a Ravens fan) every year I see my family & friends talk up Lamar and the Ravens only for them to struggle or blow it in the playoffs. I really feel sorry for Ravens fans because that team in 2023 was special & they lost a lot of players and the defensive coordinator.

[@SortaNonymous]

As a Bengals fan, the best way I can describe watching Lamar is that from the regular season to the playoffs, he goes from Darth Vader in the hallway to Darth Vader getting blown away by the Falcon. From terrifying to hilariously unclutch in an instant. (Seriously, he has as many hilariously back-breaking endzone picks (the Buffalo pick-six in 2020 and vs. KC in 2023) as MVP's and playoff wins lol)

[@kiyonfoushee9911]

Lamar was statistically better than Joe burrow vs kc than the last time Joe burrow played kc talk about those 2 picks

[@kiyonfoushee9911]

@@NeverSober8008 I mean you bengals fans are delusional you make it seem like yall didn’t lose the next year to the chiefs and burrow played horrible but yall bring up the year before like that didn’t happen 😂

[@02sickhound]

Massively overlooking John Harbaughs lack of coaching in these games.

[@rayhunt5132]

Ikr we keep ignoring the fact that harbaugh without the influence of ray Lewis and Ed reed struggles in actually coaching his players up in big situations..his post season record since their departure is proof enough

[@RegularFlyGuy]

100%. The team was ready to fire him before Lamar came along. H

[@paranoia_xo]

Lamar can't check into plays based on the looks he's getting? Lamar can't take off with his legs everyone screams about when he's got open lanes? I don't wanna hear shit about coaching when guys like Dak, Josh Allen, Hurts and Herbert get called bums and chokers.

[@AJCsr]

​@@paranoia_xo Lamar's been better than all those QB's, yet they don't get talked about like they're losers.

[@dorothyhunter4656]

​@@AJCsr I don't know where u Been 😂😂😂 all they talked about was josh allen is a turnover machine last year. And even though dax had better stats then anyone last year he regarded as trash. So u mean to tell me that that lamar couldn't go up to the coach and say we need to RUN THE BALL 😂🎉🎉😂. Ok whatever 😂😂

[@jimc.goodfellas]

Look, I'm a Steelers fan.....but I will continue to argue that Zay Flowers blew that playoff game for Ravens. Getting that personal foul after the long gainer, instead of getting right up to the line and scoring quickly, really hurt their chances to win that game...to say nothing of his mishap later. We need to see Lamar in the playoffs one more time and see if he can find a way to get wins

[@NemoRackkz]

That and no run game being established. combined for less than 20 yards rushing

[@joshjohnson2753]

​@@NemoRackkzFor years, we blamed Greg roman for not running the ball in the playoffs and becoming a pass happy attack in 2019, and for some reason they did it again with Greg Roman at home and not involved whatsoever lol. It's baffling

[@AJCsr]

​@@joshjohnson2753 Baffling, really ? It's freaking Harbotch !

[@Broadkill54]

@@joshjohnson2753that shows you it’s Hohn Harbaugh.

[@larry2281]

Let’s ignore Lamar throwing an int in triple coverage.

[@socialistbatman1211]

Its so weird how sports discourse goes. Everything has to be so dramatic, everything has to be a choke, a meltdown, fraudulent etc. Sometimes the other team just plays better and they win.

[@rjante2236]

You can't tell me that the Ravens didn't have a complete meltdown against the Chiefs.

[@RM-56]

idk man the Ravens did have a meltdown this time though. They looked like a shell of their regular season prowess

[@bobo8778]

49ers HC Kyle Shanahan is currently the best choker right now. Lamar Jackson got nothing on him. 0 and 3 in Superbowls he was the play caller in after having double digit leads in all 3

[@therealjaystone2344]

Every chokes happened are scripted and fake if you watch closely.

[@BobectorGamesBobector]

I'll put it in perspective for you a little bit. Brock Purdy has started only 2 years and he doubles Lamar in playoff wins.

[@bobo8778]

@@BobectorGamesBobector here's another perspective....if Brock Purdy wants a Superbowl he best play for another coach or team because Kyle Shanahan will eventually scapegoat him when he chokes again like he scapegoated Jimmy G, Steve Wilkes, and Dan Quinn.

[@BobectorGamesBobector]

@@bobo8778 I agree Shanahan is a known choker but the fact he can consistently put good teams out on the field and constantly make it to the championship game everytime he's ever been to the playoffs is a lot more then most coaches can say. You got to remember he's lost to some of the greatest coaches of all time at this point. Bill Belichick and Andy Reid. Speaking of Reid do you remember a time everyone clowned on Reid the same way they do Shanahan? How Reid couldn't coach in big games and was a choker. It's interesting how that's turned upside down now. Shanahan will get over the hump, despite his SB troubles he's still a top 5 coach in the league.

[@bobo8778]

@@BobectorGamesBobector I'm pretty sure 49ers fans doesn't want to wait 20 years like Andy Reid did to finally with the big one. Add 20 years to the 30 years 49ers ring less streak will be a total of 50 years of no championship. But we'll see in time but right now he's an epic choker that's his rep.

[@wc6046]

You guys do realize that if Lamar were to win a super bowl, the narrative would immediately switch to "he was carried by his defense" "mickey mouse ring" "Mahomes still has more" right?

[@nightmarekilo84]

@jontavuis42343no they would literally say that…. Yall literally saying he got carried by his defense this year 😂 already so if he would’ve won yall would’ve had a field day

[@wc6046]

@jontavuis42343 Your comment is only proving my point

[@justinbellamy1399]

@jontavuis42343that’s cap

[@silkyhank]

But he hasn't, has he? He gets so much praise during the regular season but then it's nothing but excuses when the Ravens choke during the playoffs. What makes it worse is that Ravens fans were so sure that the Ravens were going to dominate the Chiefs because of the Ravens run game and claiming the Chiefs were crap but then the Chiefs are the ones to dominate and suddenly it's crickets.

[@wc6046]

@@silkyhank Again, proving my point

[@shrekmclovin7680]

We downplay the fact that with the #1 seeds you immediately get to skip the easier first rounds giving an opportunity to beat lesser opponents.

[@Warmaker01]

Kind of reminds me of 49ers' Steve Young in the early 90s. Great QB when he became starter. But kept on losing in the playoffs to a young, powerful, very hungry Cowboys team. The "Team of the 90s." Young was considered good but not great until overcoming the hurdle of the Cowboys. In today's NFL, if you're in the AFC, all roads to the Super Bowl go through the Chiefs. This past Chiefs team wasn't even the best, especially compared to the prior championship team they had. I still recall how bad the memes were about their receivers earlier in the season. But it was still enough to beat the Ravens in the AFC Championship and my 49ers in the Super Bowl. You look at Mahomes' playoff stats and one thing you can say about him is that mistakes are very rare. He doesn't often gift you with turnovers and bad performances. Lamar Jackson has to overcome this.

[@michaelhession2105]

I agree. To me, the Chiefs could be the NFL's version of the 1990s Chicago Bulls. Why? Because this may be the most Titanic Era in NFL History with how many great teams and QBs there are, and most of them if not all of them won't win a ring because of the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. Not to mention like those Bulls teams in the NBA, their influence on the NFL around the world has skyrocketed. If it weren't for a miracle run of miracle runs by Cincinnati, and if Dee Ford didn't jump offsides, they would be the 6 Time Defending AFC Champions and possibly could have 4 to 5 rings right now. Thats how dominant they are.

[@cmacd1901]

​@@michaelhession2105im a chiefs fan but those are lame excuses. By that logic the patriots could have had 12 rings. 3 in 5 is still great but i still want more though. I know we can get at least 3 more

[@michaelhession2105]

@@cmacd1901 Agreed. I feel like it's going to be the Ravens and Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game again with it being in Baltimore again. I know how this is going to play out. With the Super Bowl being in New Orleans like it was during the Ravens' last championship the stars could align in Baltimore's favor, but then again, these are the Chiefs. When they play their A game in the playoffs, it's a death sentence for anyone. Just ask in particular the Eagles, Bills, and 49ers.

[@cmacd1901]

@@michaelhession2105 i kind of think the texans or bengals would make it but the ravens very well could make it again

[@michaelhession2105]

@@cmacd1901 The Bengals it depends on how they fare against their own division especially the Ravens considering that Burrow is 1-4 against Lamar. (Plus he's 0-4 in Cleveland) The Texans now will have expectations and as Jacksonville showed last year, one year can make a huge difference in the NFL. However, I would not sleep on the Pittsburgh Steelers. I've had to learn that lesson for a long time.

[@whitemamba24xe98]

Lamar Jackson is the James Harden of the NFL. Great regular season player, who puts up big numbers, wins lots of games with atleast 1 MVP on the resume. But come playoff time, both players shrivel up and disappear spectacularly. Failing to meet the moment despite massive expectations every year!

[@nightmarekilo84]

@jontavuis42343Brody shush 😂

[@YodaSmokes]

@@nightmarekilo84he’s right tho. It’s mostly mediocre stats including this last season. He basically won mvp by default of being on the most stacked team and having a good final 3-4 games.

[@nightmarekilo84]

@@YodaSmokes he won because he went up against other MVP opponents ts and literally blew them out…

[@spideyhim8]

harden way better than lamar u bum

[@Finnissee0122]

Lamar is more similar to Giannis due to the stigma that comes with dual threat QBs.

[@guppy90rl81]

Lamar is just struggling with the same thing every other qb is struggling with. Being in the same league as mahomeboy.

[@larry2281]

No it’s just a Lamar thing. Look at Allen’s playoff numbers. Difference is Allen is let down by his defense. Lamar just falls apart.

[@holyghost8467]

​@@larry2281lamar is just horrible in rhe playoffs no ay around it 😊

[@guppy90rl81]

@larry2281 this Is true

[@JoshAllen17Goated]

Pretty sure the only qb who doesnt struggle against Mahomes is Josh Allen. Lamar especially struggles. The playoffs for Lamar are like a speeding contest between Rashee Rice and Henry Ruggs, doesnt end well.

[@cadenjohnson4453]

Love the short vids tubfrog!!!!

[@baseballsoffury642]

Jared Goff has won more playoff games than Lamar, yet people say Goff is mid. Not to mention his stats are great as well.

[@TheMILVSCR]

Dan Campbell created the perfect team around him and made him so much better because they're playing/coaching to his strengths.

[@Deuce1042]

Goff has been in the league longer and also has never been the one seed to my recollection (maybe the Rams were in 2018?).

[@wheattt1]

Goff also made it to a Super Bowl, albeit he only put up 3 points. But as a cowboys fan I’d take that lmao

[@baseballsoffury642]

@@Deuce1042 They were the 2 seed in 2018. At that time, the 2 seed also got a bye week but not anymore obviously.

[@Smido83]

@@Deuce1042 And what did that 1 seed mean? Exactly... nothing. Reg season accomplishments mean squad sh** if you cant get it done in the playoffs. Look up Hardens accomplishments in the NBA reg Season in his prime... then his stats in the PO, specially in elimination games. Some guys are built for the PO, some arent!

[@jacksports7]

BathToad is back and with another banger

[@johnchedsey1306]

I'm a firm believer that QBs get too much credit AND blame in a team sport. I mean, other than Mahomes, who should get that credit. I think Jackson is still in the improving portion of his career, but one season they will break through and he'll be in the superbowl. But if an o-line is leaking Chris Jones like rain, it doesn't matter who is at QB. It's just going to be a bad day for them.

[@MichaelGreen-dm2ov]

His playoff record needs to improve but overall he gets us to the playoffs almost every year which is more than most in the NFL. I'll take my chances and stick with him rather than others.

[@ErikCB912]

When he’s healthy, yes the ravens make the playoffs. They didn’t make it in 2021 and 2022 when Lamar wasn’t healthy.

[@retrozaid1600]

@@ErikCB912they did make it in 2022 (Tyler Huntley played that playoff game)

[@ErikCB912]

@@retrozaid1600 oh yeah you’re right. Sometimes I forget that there’s 3 wild card spots now,

[@retrozaid1600]

@@ErikCB912 yeah that bengals ravens game gets forgotten a bit (which the bengals won off a ravens fumble on the 1 yard line that was returned for a 99 yard TD)

[@ErikCB912]

@@retrozaid1600 yeah just like I forget the Steelers somehow made the playoffs in 2 of the last 3 years. Those Steelers teams have to be some of the worst playoff teams ever, at least besides the teams that made the playoffs at or below .500

[@Snikiiz]

Mediocre Chiefs team? That defense was insane tho

[@fKKf-xn8dw]

Overall, it's good but I think the running defense was their noticeably weakest point. The irony being the Ravens decided to play to the Chiefs' strengths by passing it too much lol

[@NateandDanielStudios]

Mahomes got carried to his ring

[@bigchungus1848]

Their run defense sucked.

[@fKKf-xn8dw]

​@@NeverSober8008 Seems like a narrow way of looking at it. The dude can pass the ball pretty well, but whether it was his coaches wanting him to throw a lot or him being too concerned about not being seen as an actual QB, it all led to Baltimore being their own worst enemy. He already walks on eggshells as is for being "unrelatable" lol

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

Josh Allen scored 3 TDs on em. I thought Lamar was supposed to be the MVP.

[@Renegade-kf8fp]

We can say this about a lot of other guys in the league that aren’t Mahomes

[@B4TT4RTH4NCT]

As a die hard ravens fan, hell no! Harbaugh needs to held accountable for letting Monken forget what got us to the dance.

[@Kylerrules]

Yes

[@diamondrg3556]

Lamar also missed the throws that he needed to hit. Coaching was pretty stupid, but Lamar still had several opportunities.

[@OkagaCalifornia]

I’m sure Harbaugh forced Lamar to throw into triple coverage vs the Chiefs.

[@deemity7557]

Lamar literally states throughout the year he has been in more control of the offense then ever before. As a 2x MVP and veteran player he should have to make checks and adjustments before the ball is snapped. Dude is undeniably a playoff choker through this point in his career and the evidence is irrefutable.

[@tgs5725]

​@deemity7557 of his 4 playoff losses the first was as a rookie. Nobody kills rookies for having a bad game in the post season. And the most recent loss was against Mahomes. NOBODY gets killed for losing to Mahomes. Stop acting like Lamar is in his 10th season and is regularly throwing Pick 6s to end the game in the post season. He 100% does not "clutch it up" in the post season, but anyone who's saying he's a playoff choker is an absolute idiot and knows nothing about football.

[@vanderbiltalexsingleton2041]

Kansas city was not mediocre. Their defense was an all time great

[@retrozaid1600]

Yeah that 2023 KC defense was the main reason they won those games

[@Finnissee0122]

@@retrozaid1600agreed

[@tubfrog]

they definitely werent a bad team but i mean in relation to the past mahomes teams, I believe this was his worst team and lamars best chance to take them down

[@willjackson4354]

​@@retrozaid1600The same can be said about Baltimore.

[@retrozaid1600]

@@willjackson4354 true

[@pouraxial]

Big difference in quarterback maturation between him and Mahomes: using knowledge and game sense to control things in big moments. When defenses reach into their bag in the playoffs, Lamar's vision gets blurry, while Mahomes gets sharper.

[@wrobiv]

youtube hasn’t recommended me one of your videos in months, and now i’m here after 48sec wtf

[@BENgalFan1369]

"Can't scheme against mahomes" Lou Anarumo: "hold my beer"

[@mikeck4609]

In all four seasons that Lamar has been to the playoffs, he played the worst game of that entire season …in the playoffs. How can you be in elite quarterback if you are at your worst in the playoffs when the games matter most?

[@bigchungus1848]

Definitely a head scratcher.

[@ErikCB912]

He’s pretty much the Peyton Manning of running QBs. He can be great in the regular season when healthy, yet fall flat in the playoffs.

[@hhtptai]

Even Manning got two rings.

[@MagicMan-h3b]

@@hhtptaitrue and so much better

[@ErikCB912]

@@hhtptai I’d say at this point in their careers they’re comparable. Remember it took Peyton 9 seasons to win his first ring. Lamar is going into year 7

[@Finnissee0122]

@@hhtptaihe didn’t have 2 at 27 he was in the exact same spot as Lamar right now.

[@nightmarekilo84]

@@hhtptaimanning didn’t get rings til like 30

[@byp5548]

To be fair he was injured for two years when Mayfield missed the playoffs for 3 years completely

[@okie2280]

I like these short videos obviously your docs are goated but these are just a nice quick vid to watch for breakfast before I head to work keep it up man!

[@Deuce1042]

Meh. They lost to the Titans because they couldn’t convert 4th and short and Derrick Henry rushed for 200 yards.

[@ClassicSam03]

He threw 2 picks. And all those stats was him statpadding

[@Deuce1042]

@@ClassicSam03 So is the 2nd interception that happened in garbage time.

[@ClassicSam03]

@@Deuce1042 no that interception was them down 28-6 with around 2 minutes left in the 3rd. Still a chance. After Lamar couldn’t get previous drives done (cause mans puts up dak numbers in the postseason look it up), he throws a terrible interception. Everyone needs to stop sucking this man off. He sucks in the postseason.

[@Deuce1042]

@@ClassicSam03 That's garbage time stop being disingenuous.

[@ClassicSam03]

@@Deuce1042 LMAO if THATS garbage time I can’t imagine how garbage Lamar was for that to be the case. Admit it bro is horrible in the playoffs, literally look up his stats. It’s so dumb how people shit on dak but not Lamar who’s arguably WORSE.

[@IvorMektin1701]

It's Harbaugh's bafflingly dumb play calling.

[@joebin3286]

He doesn’t call the plays. Lamar is the problem. He avg more than one turnover per game. He is why they lose.

[@IvorMektin1701]

@@joebin3286 Chiefs had no run defense

[@joebin3286]

@@IvorMektin1701 go watch their other playoff games. You’re quite ignorant to say that. They held the best running back in check in the SB on the ground.

[@paranoia_xo]

lol, John fucking Harbaugh isn't a play caller

[@Broadkill54]

@@joebin3286 he doesn’t call the place, but he makes the final decisions on what is called. It’s been well-known in Baltimore that Harbaugh will over step when he feels like it. This is coming from a cincy fan.

[@JSalonsky]

Btw. He skipped a playoff game, tweeted he’s leaving the team, & PROMISED a Super Bowl for this team. This dude is so lame

[@Cmeezy_goated]

I hate to say this but when the game is on the line and Lamar needs a game winning drive, he ALWAYS gets stripped sacked. It’s like you can predict it

[@HunchoTooClean]

Facts 😂💯

[@daspooterman]

Ronnie stanley is shit now and the ravens have to scheme around the left side of the offensive line purely because they have a shit ton of money locked up in him trapping lamar with mediocre to shit o lines. He's never had a decent o line when it comes to pass protection which hopefully roger rosengarten can help with. Also in the chiefs game lamars fumble was on ronnie stanley letting the dude right pass him. I wont defend the throw into triple coverage in the chiefs game nor the pick 6 against the bills, but i will say that there were several moments of likely getting tackled while just running his routes which kind of fucking blows considering hes the best reciever on the team right now seeing as mark andrews was coming off of a broken ankle. I disagree with some of the points made but I did like the video and do think lamar does need to improve substantially in the playoffs.

[@Kye08gohard]

Goofy ahhh sounds at the beginning had me dying 💀🤣

[@m7mdmnsoor322]

If dak with this ravens 1 contender twice the casuals would cry till this day

[@WhatAG23]

Well, at least he’s matching Aaron Rodgers average of 0.5 playoff wins per MVP season.

[@vincenttran3823]

As a fan I thinks it's kinda a mix of all with Lamar and Self destruction we just beat ourselves way to often in these games and you can definitely see with these games. 2018:Lamar's first year as a full time starter and got smacked by a decent Chargers team at the time. 2019: Titans defense contained our biggest strength and Derrick Henry going nuclear. 2021: To many errors by Lamar and the Offense. 2023: Didnt utlize the run game when we needed to the most,Lamar trying to playing Hero Ball and Zay Flowers mishaps. So my point here is that the Ravens and Lamar just beat ourselves the defense has carried a lot of these games and most of these were winnable it's just we beat ourselves to much to the point of no return I think they will get over the hump eventually but you got to stop malfunctioning at the worst possible time

[@vincenttran3823]

Lamar has HOF Talent is just that fact if he and the team could get the job done and if they can not self destruct during the most important moments they will make it to the superbowl at some point but the need to stop inflicting wounds on themselves

[@Mula_Music]

18 seconds holy hell😂

[@larry2281]

Yes he’s a known playoff choker. It’s not even a question but excuses are made for him.

[@thenightspider]

The 2023 AFC Championship was really annoying to me and it most definitely feeds into the Lamar's fraud playoff allegations. That Ravens team was all around significantly better than the Chiefs but for some reason the offense just collapsed. The Ravens were the best rushing team in the league by a wide margin yet somehow they only rushed for a total of 16 times that game. The chiefs ran the ball for twice the amount which shouldn't be happening. And in the pass plays, there were times where Lamar had wide open grass in front of him to run and gain lots of yards but for some reason held onto to the ball to throw. All of the other playoff games I can give a sliver of an excuse for Lamar's performance whether it be bad o-line play, inexperience, or the opposing defense having a very good gameplan, but that AFC championship game has no defense for it. Lamar had all the advantages and didn't capitalize on it. And it wasn't even like Patrick Mahomes was playing godly, yes he was playing very good but his offense was only able to put up 17 points which is something Lamar should have overcame.

[@WhatAG23]

The NFL definitely wanted the chiefs to win that game, and told the Ravens to sabotage it beforehand.

[@TjFreely2]

Mahomes didn't have one turnover that whole game and played very much better then Lamar it honestly wouldn't have been close if mecole hardman didn't fumble in the end zone like say flowers did 😊

[@TjFreely2]

And you notice when the defense had the chance to stop mahomes in the 4th he hits MVS for a bomb throw mahomes will always be better then Lamar don't speak on my qb

[@thenightspider]

Why are you acting so insecure? I never once belittled Mahomes at all. All I said was that Mahomes did not play godly which is true. He didn't pick apart the Ravens defense like it was surgery and rip balls left and right. I did not say that Lamar played better than Mahomes, in fact I am criticizing Lamar's performance cause it should have been better. I never once said that Lamar is a better qb than Mahomes so the fact that that is something your perceived in my comment shows that you are not reading properly.

[@NemoRackkz]

Here we go. Ah yes we blame one person when the team decides to abandon what made them potent all year. Do yall know Gus Edwards had 12 Touchdowns last year? Yeah Gus Edwards, you don't even know who that is I bet. Like you realize you need to both pass AND run the ball to win playoff games right? Playoffs are where tbe run game shines and what did ravens do? NOT RUN THE BALL.

[@joebin3286]

This video was way too nice. Lamar plays as a below average QB in the playoffs. He is one of the biggest choker we’ve ever seen.

[@dandrecollier800]

As a long time ravens fan i gotta agree. Lamar is one of the mosg frustrating quarterbacks I've ever watched.

[@bankslaw8900]

Do you guys watch film? And to count his first year in the league when he was the youngest Qb to ever start a playoff game is laughable. In that first Tenn. game no other Wb had ever threw through for that much and rushed for over 100 yards. The next year he Threw for more yards and rushed for more yards than Henry. The next game against the Bills Lamar had a higher Qbr than Allen and Allen only threw for 40yards more and Lamar didn’t play the entire 4th. The next time against HOU he broke another record with multiple rushing and passing TD. Against the Chiefs Mahomes scored 1 more TD and Zay fumbled on the goal line.

[@dandrecollier800]

@@bankslaw8900 and that's why he's so frustrating. He CAN do it it's just he folds when it matters most. Those stats mean nothing if he can't win when it matters most

[@joebin3286]

@@bankslaw8900 that TN game he had 3 turnovers and a failed 4th and one run. He was the biggest reason they lost. It was 14-6 at halftime. He choked. The bills game he threw a pick six in the end zone lol. You Lamar Stan’s are just stupid at this point. Against KC he had two more turnovers that were both on him. He averages 1.5 turnovers per game in the playoffs.

[@bankslaw8900]

@@dandrecollier800 it’s a game you can’t be perfect. But my thing is do you realize where that drive started on the Zay fumble? And did that no matter? Against Houston did that not matter? It’s like we only picking the times when they don’t win to say it matters.

[@michaelkruger9368]

As a Ravens fan, yes, he is a playoff choker. But so is every other quarterback that doesn't win the Superbowl over multiple playoff appearances. Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud if he doesn't win a Superbowl next year ... We all know these guys are likely capable of carrying their teams to a Superbowl , but every generation has a Brady/Mahomes 🤷‍♂️

[@SamRoberson-u3w]

Lamar also has to be the qb that gets the most excuses made for him.

[@joshuaSSC]

Hey tubfrog WW vid but i wanna see the old editing style.... The new is pretty good but ngl your specialty is how you edit like your old vids

[@mfdoom479]

Huge ravens fan...and yeah dude. He chokes hard as fuck. I guess we just gotta hope for a year when our team is so OP that he's not even in a situation where he can choke lol

[@themaddfann8599]

Lamar Lamar Lamar. Nowhere near a playoff choke. He’s a problem. The team I root for should hate the ravens but this kid can play.

[@braddillon4311]

I wouldn't give Lamar all the blame for the 2019 playoff debacle. Harbaugh got completely outcoached by Vrabel and the Titans straight up outplayed the Ravens in every facet of the game. Sure, Lamar could have player better, but the Titans were just the better team that day.

[@TheRealKevLarDaDon]

Thank you, TubFrog! Long form 👍🏽

[@rmatthews4212]

I have been watching NFL football for a ton of years and I learned that playoff wins are build around a good TEAM, good PLAYERS and most of all good COACHS. During Lamar's last playoff game he had 272 yards passing (1 TD AND 1 INT) and rushed for 54 yards, not bad. The Ravens COACHS had his running backs run the ball 6 times with a 3.83 yards average, BAD COACHING. Gus Edwards ran the ball 3 times with a 6.67 yards average. KC did not score in the second half and the Ravens lost by 7 points.

[@drumski7328]

Bro is Joel Embiid of the NFL

[@rjante2236]

Not true, Lamar made it out of the 2nd round.

[@Smido83]

Jackson in the NFL reminds me a lot of James Harden in the NBA. Brilliant highlights in the Reg Season, stupidly great stats... but when the PO come and he has to put everything out there... he shrinks. Some people are built for the PO, some arent. It is what it is. Still a great Quaterback and maybe he can somehow snatch a ring. But for me its already clear that he isnt a PO riser and never will be.

[@michaelhession2105]

Actually, I think Lamar is similar to Giannis in the sense that both of them have flaws in their games and have incredible work ethics, however in the playoffs sometimes the moment gets to them. Think about this, if it weren't for 2021, the Greek Freak would be the biggest playoff choker in the NBA by a wide margin, and it pains me to admit it.

[@laneconstancio7806]

@@michaelhession210550 points in a finals game coming off a huge leg injury usually gets rid of that 😂

[@michaelhession2105]

@@laneconstancio7806 That could be Lamar's legacy as well.

[@M_JW]

Short answer: yes.

[@roush26]

Option QBs don't win Superbowls, you want a pocket QB who launches the ball and runs like a newborn faun.

[@bigchungus1848]

Brady never ran. It’s all about mental.

[@ChiefBlue4298]

The Chiefs have always been Lamar and the Ravens kryptonite

[@cmacd1901]

The chiefs might be everyones kryptonite then

[@bigchungus1848]

Without the Chiefs the Ravens would have blown out their opponent in the Superbowl.

[@Qcxm]

Remember when he got drafted he said the ravens will get a super bowl out of me

[@jaykobanstaett1183]

5:41 Of course not against my Steelers we swept them under the rug.

[@Tderesse]

no, we just had to come to play at your rat place. You've been living in it for 6 years and counting

[@greenswamponion7330]

Someone in the afc has gotta stop the chiefs man. I would attend church again and become a changed man if they got bounced 1st round just one time

[@aVerveQuest]

Even the best quarterbacks in the NFL get game plan against, and once the defense has figured out the weakness they will pound that non-stop until the quarterback overcomes it. It's only the truly elite quarterbacks that overcome game planning again and again on their road to super bowl wins

[@PiyachonYuenyongHYDE]

It was case of try to do extra when you don't have to. the Ravens have great run game but elected to be pass heavy in AFC championship game for no reason.

[@MazeDaGr8]

Yes Lamar has made some crucial mistakes in many games but honestly aside from Team mistakes, I also think some blame has to go with Coaching because the Ravens could've won that AFC Championship game and what stopped them? They didn't do the thing that got them there; running the ball Me being a Ravens fan it always pains me to see these playoff losses 😑 but I think Lamar is going to snap out of this eventually

[@miertoe]

NO NO NO NO NO NO WAY TUBFOG BETRAYED ME

[@jessicaoxenham9322]

TubFrog hates Lamar for some reason like most nfl fans.

[@dr.rousseau9185]

i dont like the short video format, seens rushed and u talk to fast

[@Doatello1991]

This past season? Yes. He actually wasn’t that bad in the 2019 divisional. That was more on the coaching. Harbaugh twice decided to go for it on 4th on their own field before halftime, and they got stuffed each time. The entire team played poorly. However, multiple times in the AFC Championship vs Kansas City, Lamar Jackson had plenty of room to run, and he would instead try to win with his arm. His throws were also atrocious that game. That’s 100% on him.

[@darianclark3980]

Dak Prescott 🤜🤛 Lamar Jackson Good QBs that slow down at playoff time. Kyler Murray 🤜🤛 Justin Herbert QBs that do too much that they end up becoming part of the choke. . . in the regular seasons.

[@omeeawakened]

The problem is that Lamar is the entire offense and he’s easy to contain in the playoffs when defenses know that’s all they need to stop. Similar to Derek henry in Tennessee. It’s impossible for a player to do it all in the playoffs. Ravens need to stop expecting Lamar to be Superman play in and play out. There’s only so many incredible plays he can make before that trick runs dry

[@Nc18554]

Ive been going to ravens games since 2000. Lamar is not the issue at all. John harbaugh has 1 afc championship win since 2008 lol. Harbaugh has had some insane rosters over the years and was only able to win a ring with a miracle playoff run and 8 hof players. Until harbaugh leaves, ravens wont win again, and trust me, harbaugh is hitting that 20yr mark with ease. Every time he makes playoffs he buys himself another 3 years.

[@sjmemz7285]

Ravens defense was elite 23 szn literally was saving Lamar in the wild card game but he just couldn’t pull thru

[@Cfreezy12]

Yes, if he is this hyped and still hasn’t won a Super Bowl or even been to one he should be held to the same standard as dak

[@MrMelonGuy42]

seems like a coaching problem ngl

[@LooseSkrwz1]

What's the point we're in the playbook coaching up a offensive game plan if during the game you just do whatever?

[@brodieandshoot3681]

The Joel embid of the Nfl

[@T.J.WattFan]

I’ll save you 8 minutes and 55 seconds, yes.

[@aVerveQuest]

The Ravens are continually surrounded by the best talent in the NFL so it's really hard not to blame Lamar for much of this It's kind of a matter of what works during the regular season grind may not work in a one-season elimination game

[@Imbetterthanu.]

Yeah hes a playoff choker treat him how yall treat dak😂😂

[@NateandDanielStudios]

Never forget Mahomes only scored 16 combined second half points in the AFC championship and Super Bowl. But this is forgotten because they had a top 3 defense

[@mani-xc9rs]

@@NateandDanielStudios Never forget that Lamar sycophants cried for years that having a great defense and mediocre receivers aren’t enough help for him to win with, just to watch Mahomes beat him at home and win a Super Bowl with exactly that. Never forget that Lamar is the worst MVP playoff performer this century.

[@NateandDanielStudios]

@@mani-xc9rs I agree I am a bengals fan

[@WildChild3q]

I was kind of annoyed about him talking crap about that 2020 bills playoff game considering he got concussed in that game

[@TheCephalon]

Do not put that loss to the bill’s on the offensive line. That was on Lamar. Because the chiefs played the bills next week and destroyed them by 20 and chiefs had no offensive line remember? What happened in the superbowl the week ago with no O line

[@fourliferrrr]

I knew they lost their the playoff of game as soon as i saw zay have that horrendous fumble

[@AoKGuy47]

6:42 The Super Bowl champions are mediocre? How is the team that literally won the Superbowl mediocre?

[@WPAK207]

Lamar Jackson, the fluid machine, believe it or not, is merely human.

[@eeik5150]

He has the same number of playoff wins as Dak. He has the same number as Tony Romo had when he retired. He has less than Kaepernick with more looses than Kaepernick. And Kap played less seasons.

[@PhilP8980]

How about that 101 yard pick 6 at Buffalo to lose the game? And he mysteriously hurt his dick on that play and took the rest of the game off. Totally clutch! He's a winner!

[@marianibrahim4554]

I mean he has a better resume then ur qb despite missing 2 seasons😂also he’s not a turnover machine

[@michaelyoung2978]

Rich from a bills fan also be better with that last sentiment

[@jizzlemcskizzle3076]

Wild that Lamar and Dak have the same playoff record.

[@exquisitevibes5467]

Lamar is 2-4 Dak is 2-5 in the playoffs

[@antr7493]

FYI he is skipping off season workouts.

[@showtimesportsmedia6906]

I can’t even name a top WR he’s played with outside of last year with Zay and mark andrews is a TE he don’t count. Bateman failed, Hollywood brown failed, Odell wasn’t good, all he had was a running game. If they won’t give him a real core, run the short/quick game and work your way to the deep ball I’ve been saying this for years.

[@belisarius7880]

I'll never stop laughing at all the excuse making the media does for Lamar. 'Greg Roman is making Lamar run too much! It's his fault!' but then after the afc championship game 'Todd Monken is making Lamar throw too much! It's his fault!'. Maybe its time to stop blaming your OC and recognize Lamar has limitations. And before you say 'But Lamar had no weapons!' stop and recognize the chiefs just added former Raven wr hollywood brown to potentially be their #1 wr, because Mahomes is the QB who doesn't have weapons. Mahomes is an mvp qb while lamar remains an mvp running back.

[@bottle315]

Hes a top 3 quarterback but not 1 or 2.. but he is still growing

[@PhoenixDawnX77]

He's vastly overrated. Never thought i would say it as he was hell in college, but NFL and fans gargle his nuts and he's done absolutely nothing but beg for help. Vick didn't do that. Mahomes is King and no one is close.

[@tgs5725]

Lamar lost as a rookie then lost to Mahomes last year.. outside of that hes 2-2 in the playoffs. So I ask this... is everyone who loses to Mahomes a playoff choker? What about every rookie that loses their first playoff game? What about the rookies that dont even make the playoffs? No hes not a playoff choker and it's dumb to even say at this point tbh. If he gets knocked out of round one either once or twice more then okay.... youd be right. But right now no.

[@ErikCB912]

He was one and done in the playoffs to the Titans in an MVP season and lost to the Bills in 2020.

[@Finnissee0122]

⁠​⁠@@ErikCB912those were both Divisional round games & he just made it to the afc championship last season.

[@ErikCB912]

@@Finnissee0122 the ravens had a bye in 2019 and lost in the divisional round. That counts as a first round exit.

[@tgs5725]

@@ErikCB912 yes. So he's 2-2 outside of excusable losses.

[@ErikCB912]

@@tgs5725 “excusable” losses? lol. He’s 2-4 in the playoffs and the 2 wins aren’t even that impressive. One was over a rookie CJ Stroud on a mediocre Texans team and the other one was the Titans who has probably the only active QB that’s worse than Lamar in the playoffs, Ryan Tannehill. If he would have beat the Titans in 2019 and the Bills in 2020, but lost to the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game both times, I would put him in the same category as Josh Allen which is: he can win playoff games, but can’t beat the Chiefs. Until he proves otherwise, he’s a playoff choker in my book.

[@hardworkingcriminal4873]

Come on the answer is know. Didn't you get the memo it's never the super star quarterbacks fault...he just doesn't have enough talent around him to win much more than League MVP.

[@IcyTorments]

yes and no, Coaching and playcalling has been a massive factor to the playoff losses. If they make the playoffs again this year and the team loses Harb needs to go as the coach. idc if the running back room was injured to hell and back the team still had one of the best rush offenses in the league and just like san fran they abandoned it when they needed it the most. also THEY need a Number 1 receiver, yes flowers will more than likely get there soon but that SB window is closing and closing fast

[@batzilla1139]

Honestly I think Lamar Jackson might go down as our generations Dan Marino

[@missile87redefined25]

He’s the Peyton of this era. He’ll get atleast one bowl

[@ceebee312]

Defenses know or will crack the blueprint to stabilize Lamar and his game … Not sure if Henry is enough for them to get over the hump

[@francisdasta8646]

In the 2019 AFC Championship Game the Chiefs held Derrick Henry to six yards in the second half

[@omeeawakened]

@@francisdasta8646Derek was the entire offense and teams had to go all out to stop him. It should be interesting to see how teams try to stop both of them simultaneously

[@rmatthews4212]

And we all know that the QBs best friend is a good running game and who run better than the Ravens?

[@mitchbrown6652]

Its a fair question. But it is still an unfair question. Everyone is stuck in the moment. Just give it time and see what happens

[@noahbrecker1129]

He’s more of a rich man’s Dak Prescott, in the playoffs, getting that first playoff win was huge but against the chiefs?? I don’t know man

[@ITSTHESWEETONE]

honestly i feel like the afc championship this year was on zay jones and Harbaughs coaching although lamar didnt really help himself out that much lmao