Is Lenovo X1 Fold Better Than the Asus Fold?

[@yousufanwar7030]

The spokesperson for Lenovo(not sure what they are called) really explained things in a meaningful way.

[@cheapbruh9778]

you cant be serious :P? thats just a normal sales guy... but yea he did a great job

[@jadhal6649]

Both are excellent . Both case windows is winning. Public get more choices.

[@stanlucaks]

Does the Lenovo come with the free spyware’s again so they can always track you with the Chinese servers?

[@kstempniak]

This is laptop where M1 processors would love to stay.

[@trandinhvietdung9357]

Apple: too bad, it hurts sales of iPad

[@ForgiveMyFrankness]

Speak English much? What does this comment even mean?

[@ezradja]

Yes, mainly because of the cooler/colder nature of M1 processor. Man, if only Qualcomm and Mediatek had performance arm processor for mobile desktop.

[@MienLeHoang]

That will be a fantastic device. But I guess apple will put a pro on it and call "it's over 9999$" lol

[@luichunghang]

One day apple will come up a fold device and call it dynamic MacBook B)

[@flyingaviator8158]

Great to see Lenovo developing this form factor further. They have a headstart with the old generation they learned a lot.

[@MrReedmonkey]

I have a gen IV X1 yoga and it is still going strong after so many years. Needed a new keyboard under warranty, but no probs great service in Australia so at least I know it will get fixed OK. I wish the stylus had a silo or even a freaking pen loop like the 12 inch Yoga, but warming to the external stand/keyboard. Would have to go with the gen 2 product from Lenovo over the ASUS, although I wish them every success. Waiting for Microsoft to come to the party with a foldable surface/neo replacement....

[@AR-rg2en]

I really would love to have Neo, but I think they won’t release it right now.

[@_CharlieHarper]

Yes, I would actually say, that the Lenovo X1 Fold is somehow better solution compared to Asus Fold. I have spent a lot of time on KZbin to watch hours and hours of videos reviewing both devices separately and (my own opinion and my taste) is : I would choose Lenovo rather than Asus.

[@firmanardi4008]

Better in what aspect?

[@DocBunnyJay]

Samsung : initiated and accomplished Fold smartphone Lenovo : fold design in their laptops Meanwhile Apple 😅 : We are inventing new hardwares with outdated designs

[@shonwest1539]

I'm going to go with the Lenovo because of the thinner profile and I love the way it closes with no gap, I like Asus but there's still seems bulky

[@DaPoets]

Good video. I'm using the X1 Fold and I enjoy it but it can be sluggish w/ some bugs. This new keyboard on the Gen 2 seems to fix some of my concerns as well.

[@Carlito.undercover]

I have an X1 laptop which is a bit slow. It's probably a specs issue though, what is your specs?

[@DaPoets]

@@Carlito.undercover All of the X1 Folds are a bit slow due to the processor type. I would have to dig it out and see the exact specs that Lenovo sent me (review unit), but it's fast enough to do things like MS Office, Web Browsing, Netflix, PLEX, etc. You wouldn't put workloads on it or game.

[@seebzk]

Lenovo Man’s favourite phrase “as a whole”

[@leofonseca8144]

Overall, that is a given.

[@michaelgarzon6945]

LOL, best comment ever!

[@nikusallen4708]

Only read the comments to see if anyone else noticed!

[@JeffGraw]

The fact that one includes a stylus, while the other doesn't "because it would damage the screen," probably says a lot about durability.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Lenovo X1 Fold Gen 2 supports a stylus. Asus 17 Fold doesn't. Asus 17 Fold uses an OLED panel from BOE. The 1st gen Lenovo X1 Fold uses an OLED panel from LG Display and therefore I'm ASSUMING (I could be wrong here) that the gen 2 model is also using an OLED panel from LG Display. Not sure. $3,500 for a device with a BOE panel?? NO THANKS! 😂😂😂 P.s. Asus 17 Fold has a keyboard that is NOT backlit. Lenovo X1 Fold Gen 2 has a backlit keyboard. EDIT: Sharp is the OLED panel manufacturer for the Lenovo X1 Fold Gen 2. It can reach 600 nits of peak brightness.

[@SzeptyTechniki]

If I would choose I would take Lenovo X1 Fold.

[@bebokRZly]

Portrait mode for this, with keyboard, damn! it is interesting! :D

[@ALEDAMAS]

Lenovo has active stylus, cellular network, up to 32gb, 3 ports, backlight keyboard Asus.. they failed, wait for 2nd gen

[@ginielvillacote2372]

I want samsung to make one of this.

[@dad-n-gio2054]

Yes, I need them to make this asap

[@theworkoutgeek]

For my money if I were interested in buying, would be the Lenovo X1 over the Asus 17 Fold. Better specs and features on the X1, plus the Lenovo X1 Fold is already in it's 2nd generation vs Asus 1st generation Fold and most importantly the Lenovo X1 Fold will be a lot cheaper than the Asus! My biggest drawback for both is not enough power for video editing and games which is why I bought a much cheaper and more powerful option than the 2 Foldable laptops, an Alienware M15 R7 Intel 12th Gen with Nvidia 3070ti graphics and I'm loving it!

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

2 other things: Lenovo X1 Fold Gen 2 supports a stylus. Asus 17 Fold doesn't. Asus 17 Fold uses an OLED panel from BOE that can reach 500 nits of peak brightness. The 1st gen Lenovo X1 Fold uses an OLED panel from LG Display and therefore I'm ASSUMING (I could be wrong here) that the gen 2 model is also using an OLED panel from LG Display. Not sure. EDIT: Sharp is the OLED panel manufacturer for the Lenovo X1 Fold Gen 2. The panel can reach 600 nits of peak brightness.

[@tolu619]

Agreed. The moment I heard the Lenovo supports a stylus and the Asus doesn't, as well as the Lenovo supporting up to 32GB of RAM, I'd take the Lenovo over the Asus if I had to take one.

[@lars2894]

Peak brightness means absolutely nothing. Both are 300-400 Nit SDR displays and neither are usable outdoors. Key difference is that Asus Fold gets much longer battery life (much bigger battery + low power CPU), whereas Lenovo Fold has the stylus feature not offered on the Asus.

[@AR-rg2en]

Apples and oranges, this a completely different device than a gaming one.

[@neoqueto]

Up to 32 GB RAM. Quite an upgrade over the laughable 8 GB max in the predecessor. That was the biggest deal breaker, even though nobody expects to do any kind of serious number crunching on such a low-power device. 8 GB is simply barely enough for a web browser these days.

[@guizarbayardoemmanuelisaia1718]

What did my 8gb to you?😭

[@jackwong64]

At the same time, a lot of people complained MacBook Air US$1,199 with just 8GB of ram.

[@drishalballaney6590]

@@jackwong64 but this is windoze we are talking about :P

[@jackwong64]

@@drishalballaney6590 hmm which mean 8GB is not enough for sure?!

[@drishalballaney6590]

@@jackwong64 atleast 16 is recommended for a smooth experience

[@artofverity8791]

The price is €2,999. You're welcome.

[@DJAYPAZ]

The Lenovo is the more appealing of the two foldable. The ability to carry a 17” screen with you is a big bonus for usability. The Lenovo kick stand built in the keyboard seems to offer more display angles. I wonder if there are some benchmark test results available?

[@smanzoli]

You can buy a 17” laptop that weights the same, same config, for less. Ok, the folded footprint is smaller, but… I wish it was larger. Like 21” unfolded, 14” folded… it’s ok to carry 14”

[@Эдвард-ч3э]

​@@smanzoli should be 15.2" folded to be 21" unfolded. But I think it would also be interesting to have model 24” unfolded, 17.3” folded. But 15.6" - 21.6" and 14" - 19.4" are also very interesting of course.

[@MiaX-l2b]

@@Эдвард-ч3э they can play with the screen ratio to adjust any sizes. But I agree that going with screens bigger than 17" is appealing to me too. Hope they'll see those comments ;)

[@NinjaSushi2]

​@@smanzoliI don't know the last time you picked up a 17-inch laptop but the only 17-inch laptops they make or heavy duty gaming machines and they usually weigh like 7 to 10 lb. Lol

[@Andyhandle]

The Asus is gen 1, the lenovo gen 2. It'll be interesting to see the Asus gen 2 and the next version of Windows.

[@truthsayer9534]

If you don’t mind a line through the middle of your screen. Notice how the manufacturers never give you a good, close, steady look at these foldable devices.

[@dmxe]

Most of english comments written by people with polish names :D

[@bartekobarteko]

Interesting why? Hahaha

[@stormsj]

So annoying all the products like this are using Intel, when AMD now has the efficiency advantage for something like this if you are actually going to do any medium to heavy use for battery.

[@ShamanSotha]

It's not a laptop. It's just a foldable tablet with a keyboard and "serious" specs. I find it quite non-practical and would prefer if Lenovo focus more on 13 and 14 inch ThinkPads...

[@fargonthebrave]

why i like the look of the Lenovo and size i still perfer the Asus being able to uses place the keyboard on the Asus when closed is important to me as it keeps it all together

[@AR-rg2en]

Lenovo is genius with that strategy of a separate keyboard that can act as a stand for a vertical monitor

[@Dylanshandle]

separate keyboard cover acts as a stand

[@seoguru5826]

30,000 fold standard is good. If you fold the device 8 times a day it will last 10 years. Not bad at all. Double the folds and you still have a foldable laptop that lasts 5 years. Most people will upgrade by then. Tech is changing so fast that I don't see anyone keeping tech longer than that.

[@jackwong64]

Not sure if that # is true, unless there is a software timer to count it and we can access that.

[@seoguru5826]

@@jackwong64 Me either but 20,000 folds is acceptable. I suppose the factory could verify the data. All manufacturing facilities have standards. It's much easier today to track and measure in a production environment.

[@Forexdaytradingcompounding]

Minimum 30 times a day ... So.... Just for 1000.days.... Like 3 years..or less....2 years..

[@jamesbrendan5170]

lol, wait until you see the people talking about repairability and upgradability.

[@ancy179]

Seems lenovo has a clear mind for the design for now and future.

[@ezradja]

2500usd vs 3500usd. the 2500usd would win everytime.

[@airfong]

Why are they still not launching it yet

[@alkalineph9446]

I may get an x1 for productivity if it fits my needs

[@thomasgood3472]

I'd never buy a 'Chinese brand'!!

[@juochiokpala8384]

Technology wowwing!🔥😍

[@mealot7613]

Those prices are pretty insane, to ask for basically just a laptop. A laptop thats not even actively cooled.

[@andyv8889]

Finally something i would buy.

[@MrDeikas]

Wow, but the pice is 😳😱

[@LeszczBarowy]

Thx mr. Keyboard 👍

[@rabbitazteca23]

Such a beautiful device with a super large screen. I want this to be my 1st foldable laptop. Much more affordable than ASUS too

[@ibmtpx24]

I will go with the voice command input before I start using the monitor keyboard. Don't you suffer enough using your smartphone typing emails?

[@mstyle2006]

PS1, PS2, Gamecube, MAME, Dreamcast Emulation here!

[@Ricardoromero4444]

That large screen and lenovo's trackpoint are a really attractive prospect. If they had a larger, more powerful model I'd be in. If they make one with an AMD APU It's an instant purchase for me.

[@woulfhound]

100% Agree! This is too small.

[@yitezeng1035]

Cool design! I really have a big issue with ThinkPad though, they last too long. I have a X1 Carbon Gen2 and it is still running strong with no issues. All my heavy lifting stuff are done in the cloud, so it has no issue handling my daily task. I guess I won't buy a new ThinkPad anytime soon :)

[@MrTyck]

Hmm I do have a 2y laptop from lenovo y540 , very bad quality regarding plastics, screws, screen.. And i am very careful with laptops.

[@yinyang9109]

I prefer 13 inch unfold light and thin and onscreen soft keyboard is good enough. It's a perfect size in my opionion thanks

[@m_amirulhadi]

I like lenovo more. 1) i don't always need keyboard, for presentation or minor editting, on screen keyboard is enough for me. And i easily can reach keyboard whenever i need. (which i don't always need) Plus, i can fully close it and can stack with other document in bag with ease in mind. 2) as asus, close without keyboard seems pretty dangerous to stack and easier for dust on screen. The asus design looks like it is compulsory to bring keyboard everywhere which i don't really need.

[@RenaissanceEarCandy]

"this is how we improved on the design" if you can't close it with the keyboard in place, that is NOT an improvement, that's a disadvantage.

[@DigitalSamTV]

I would go with the Thinkpad over the Asus every day .. looks slick

[@r.jsumra2969]

There no innovation in laptops.smartphone is better .why i buy laptops????? There is no battery backup low ram less space ...........its2022

[@michaels7900]

I like ThinkPad

[@mingology7767]

I like Lenovo that made tremendous effort in their recycled packaging materials, really commendable effort!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@JimIBobIJones]

The problem with this form factor is that a significant proportion of the target market (senior managers/executives) work for large entities (corporations, firms, governments etc.) that bulk buy their IT. Even if they had the desire and income to buy one of these, they can't just buy one - they have to get it through work, and work is only going to offer options from a pre-selected list. In today's economy, unless you are talking C suite executives, good luck convincing procurement/IT to sign off on making these available...

[@Errcyco]

That thing is pretty cool. And although I like the magnetic keyboard from a practical stand point.. I’m not daily driving anything that requires four different pieces. My MacBook Air is tiny, but versatile and can go anywhere.

[@SebastianGramsz0]

First and foremost - of course Lenovo X1 is better, but...: What's the point of TrackPoint when there are no ergonomic physical buttons for it!? You've been there before @Lenovo, haven't You? - in T440 (WORST THINKPAD EVER) and You acknowledge that, so haptic buttons never come back in T series (we love You for it). But here You present same issue :( And then, nota bene Mr. "KEYBRD" is saying he need no keyboard!? He wants to type on a screen like a caveman!? @Mrkeybrd, have you ever experience the pain of typing on a screen!?🙄

[@starjammerAK]

0 seconds ago Asus Zenbook Fold 17" Oled update: I love how this toy gets the attention from the people around you, except it drained easily especially the wireless keyboard even if not in use. I'm very disappointed paying this much pricey toy. Asus should have come up with a better battery life that would last longer. Make sure you bring a charger with you all the time lol Reply

[@DrApollo-t6e]

Why have a folding computer? I'm just going to take my 32 inch monitor to Starbucks because I can't work at home.

[@enda0man]

I wish Windows on ARM was as easy to use and as widely supported as Apple's macOS and M series ARM processors because a Windows 11 device like this with ARM power efficiency battery life and speed would be a game changer

[@hiuwo]

I dont know what I feel about lenovo. I have used lenovo in my lifetime and the have always had exceptional build but runs very slow and groggy. I have the gen1 fold and it is SOO SLOW and everything lags. I wish I can know if the gen2 improves on that just by having its hardware upgrade so I can plan my purchase of which one to get

[@NinjaSushi2]

I like Lenovo's approach to this better than Asus. I think it's a much better design that the entire laptop closes smoothly and seamlessly. The fact that you get a ThinkPad keyboard is nice but I would probably still carry my own mechanical keyboard with me in my computer bag.

[@azlanaziz2136]

Not just multiplyin' bytes..Tech also multiplyin fast..newton theo.peace!

[@jupiterapollo4985]

7:24 30k folds is actually pretty low juddging by the amount of folding the device requires on a daily basis. And if your using it as a business laptop and home laptop in one, you could see the death of the hinge within a year or so...

[@primal_baxter]

I'm afraid the biggest issue with both is inefficient CPU. There's long way to go for intel and AMD to match apples power vs energy consumption ratio...

[@kamilrakowski23]

Check out the M2 review from the Hardware Unboxed channel. It all depends on the application. Cpu is not that great at all. The Amd comes very close in power efficiency. Apple's biggest advantage over amd and intel mobile processors is gpu, not cpu.

[@EnglishMike]

I didn't realize Apple had released a laptop with a foldable screen...

[@dvw.]

It is certified EVO so basically at least you can use the laptop for 9 hours without charging and 16 hours of nonstop video.

[@TechnoLawyer]

@@kamilrakowski23 does the amd come close in real world battery life? The thing I’ve found with my m1pro mbp is that real world battery life actually matches what’s advertised. My prior windows laptops never came close. If amd can now pull that off, Lenovo should switch the chip for sure. This Lenovo looks super interesting, but man would it benefit from the kind of battery life the Apple laptops get.

[@ElliottParkinson]

@@dvw. it has a 64wh battery... For 9 hours that means with the screen on, it has to average 7 Watts. That kind of power usage would mean it dominates the M1. I'm dubious.

[@mephistonight2958]

Shame you can't actually buy it anywhere, two weeks afer release. Even Lenovo's website isn't showing it as something you can buy. Odd way to launch a product.

[@JarppaGuru]

my laptop screen works fine no need flipflop screen lol.why you need ti anyway just gimmick(next year new trend) where is hologram screen xD

[@Mithilesh1924]

Don't buy Lenovo instead go for other brands available in market. By mistake I also became Lenovo customer and suffering now.

[@sadizm]

Lenovo X1 wins hands down. Ive got the yogabook 9i epic laptop. So refined. Asus is more like prototype lol

[@bellissimo4520]

Lenovo is up to something here. For productivity purposes, a portable and foldable big screen is just perfect.

[@tricktaylor1983]

Wacon emr? Lenovo 1st gen allieed you to fold keyboard inside. Sk id imagine feedback says its better without. The bezels are certainly smaller. Id buy one if it has emr not aes wacom tech. But im big on stuff like this.

[@shachar2]

two years later the laptop isn't available or is very expensive

[@Orozco_PNW]

Won't be capable of much 3D stuff with an Intel Iris, unless you do some kind of virtual PC solution.

[@robertllobrerajr.]

Hoping these kind of tech will go mainstream!

[@iLiekLemonade]

definitely will, the use cases are very useful for productivity. the price just needs to be more accessible, which will happen over time

[@AR-rg2en]

Cool devices

[@ohwhatworld5851]

The logo and branding are absolutely hideous. Looks like something from the 80s.

[@Freak80MC]

Being unable to fold it up with the keyboard still inside is so fucking stupid. By being able to stow away the keyboard, it makes it easy to carry around and use it as a normal laptop, but then you can also turn it into a big screen with the keyboard as a separate thing. But now it's gonna be awkward to bring it around if you need to carry the device itself, and then the keyboard separately... Yea, a completely separate kickstand and keyboard... so fucking dumb. What were they thinking?

[@Erin-Thor]

That’s wrong, Lenovo’s website states i5 only. No i7, no i9, just an i5.

[@lesterpascua5284]

Can you use the screen as a dual monitor?

[@musha-hv8tx]

what is the sense of bringing too many pieces just to have a laptop experience rather than just bring a small factor laptop...Lenovo engineers are having too much drink while they are designing this product.

[@cyberearthYT]

This bigger so that I can have a foldable 27 zoll screen :-) Perfekt

[@stanleywilliamsnz]

The stand/keyboard attachment look unstable and need too much fluffing around with

[@soschiikonnensiedaslesen76]

The future looks more adorable people working on incredible technology and caring after the environment at the same time,

[@reno_idn]

for me physical real keyboard is much more convenient

[@raymondz595]

Lenovo is better!! much better, much more versatile and practical!

[@NinjaSushi2]

I would have liked to see a built-in stand so I wouldn't have to carry theirs with me.

[@isuruthiwanka2595]

Lenovo is far ahead than Asus trust me guys, I even bought a Asus laptop and that sucks..what a wast of money

[@ViharS]

I don't trust chinese anymore, I'll go with Taiwan

[@James60226]

Yeah for the 3000 dollar price tag they can keep it😂😂😂😂😂

[@nagymancs]

maybe I'm alone with this but I'd rather welcome this with android

[@mikhailkalashnik0v]

X1 fold has smaller bezels but they need a better design that allows us to fold w keyboard cmon😢

[@smetljesm2276]

Hard to see a killer app for this... Need to carry 2 things instead of one...

[@summersea_6777]

wont be the inability of being able to close the tanlet with the jeyboard pose a danger because we default to a laptop

[@drakefire2606]

I would like to see a gaming PC version of this device 🤩

[@eugeny.glushchenko]

20+" in 14-15 inch fom factor will be great

[@Alienheros2025]

Why dont you make Key board digital included in labtop

[@eagleeatsmonkey3621]

the red button on the keyboard looks very old fashion ... should get rid of it

[@Czere_Destroy]

Perfect for breakfast.

[@black4life]

ASUS looks more solid compact and durable !

[@apank21]

but as a hole!!?! { az uh hol } . nice packaging n materials tho ?

[@ivaylovelikov]

Can I use it folded and connected to a Lenovo dock station (4k monitor)?

[@Peter-ox8lj]

Now everyone will copy Lenovo and pretend nothing happens

[@sunkistlbc]

That screen is going to get scratched the hell up from the Wacom pen

[@MobbJusticeTV]

I’ve used the first gen X1 Fold. I think they should have stuck with the more integrated design. The original allows for the keyboard to be carried inside and has a built in kick stand

[@mattremer9507]

I have the X1 fold Gen 1 also and the other plus is while the keyboard is in the laptop it charges!