Is Linux A Bad Brand?

[@notjustforhackers4252]

Big companies.... Canonical, they call it Ubuntu not Linux. Red Hat ( IBM ) they call it Red Hat. SUSE, they call it SUSE. Valve, they call it Steam OS.

[@Soccera0]

Red Hat calls RHEL... RHEL. Red Hat Enterprise **Linux**.

[@azophi]

@@Soccera0RPM stands for RPM Package Manager ✌️

[@tutacat]

No, Linux is the kernel, *not* the operating system. You wouldn't call Android, Android/with-Android-linux-kernel. The APIs and anything else on top of the kernel are separate, the only consistent thing is the linux system calls, but you really don't have to use that. You can write your own separate API. In fact, you can run binaries from a completely different operating system, just by implementing those system calls correctly

[@JohnSmith-yz7uh]

The more you use linux it feels like every distro is like a car brand. Some distros use a different package manager or desktop envirement, but it matters less the more you try. If you sit in a toyota and switch to a ford, the buttons might be in a different spot, or are differntly labeled, but they all do the same and both are a car. A means to get to a destination

[@witheredtechnology]

I completely agree with you. I can switch distro and not miss a beat, but have you ever seen a person use a rental car and get unreasonable frustrated. A lot of people get the same with os's . Unless they want to try it, it will immediately make them unhappy with the product. I think that's why a lot of linux users have a "fixer" vibe. We are in a niche group.

[@pi3tr3]

@@witheredtechnology we may be niche, but I bet my ass that the military and the aero-space companies use linux in their most important/strategic products!!!

[@rayjaymor8754]

I admit, I stick to Debian based distros because I'm very dependent on muscle memory.

[@witheredtechnology]

@@pi3tr3 Yea probably. It also help that a lot of viruses are built for windows so its hard to get a virus of a Linux disto.

[@DROPKICK500gaming]

Makes sense as most people dedicated to FOSS software projects are busy writing software rather than branding

[@trash9319]

as windows user I did try to use Linux , mint as starts but holy sh!t it's hard to do most things at least compared to windows. I did switch back to windows, I can say this, the big downside of Linux is the freedom, I mean like a whole a lot of freedom. I like the freedom in Linux however it makes doing some of the basic stuff (such as installing drivers) for people like me to suffer. despite this I still have this persistence idea in my mind of going back to Linux

[@george1717]

i can honestly say that drivers on linux are so much better than on windows for almost everything since they're included in the kernel, with the biggest exception being nvidia, where on most distros getting them is a giant hassle involving adding keys and repos and all of that. probably the only reason i even continued using linux when i first tried it is because i started with arch, where you just uncomment a line in a config (if you didnt already enable it when installing) and then run sudo pacman -S nvidia and it works. TLDR: drivers are generally better on linux, but nvidia drivers are a pain on most non-arch distros (not trying to be an elitist i swear)

[@witheredtechnology]

Yea, when I first started using linux, the drivers really scared me. It's a lot better now, but I still keep a Windows boot just to play games. Though I also don't game as much as I used too. Try setting linux as your primary boot for regular tasks and keep windows as the secondary boot. This also helps me from getting distracted by games. It might also work for you.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

"(such as installing drivers)"...... well that's the big problem for most people coming from Windows..... they keep trying to use Linux like Windows and then discover its not Windows. All supported hardware in Linux is plug and play, apart from NVIDIA. If your hardware isn't working then its not supported, end of conversation. As for NVIDIA, flick an option in the software store and then click install and reboot. You don't even have to go to a website, people REALLY over think that one.

[@katrinabryce]

Drivers is only not a problem in Windows because your computer manufacturer did the hard work for you.

[@jedipadawan7023]

People hit troubles with drivers partly because they do not know how it works in terms of the kernel. I missed that for years! To get the latest drivers you often have to install the latest kernel. Distros like Mint are conservative and ship a safe, known kernel what is not aware of the latest hardware. Plus, said kernels likely minimize use of propitiatory 'blobs' - blobs that CAN improve performance and hardware support. The Liquorix and Xanmod kernels, built using propriatory drivers can jump start tricky hardware. Well worth a try if something is being 'fiddly.'

[@blahaj___]

i approve of the eating of corn straight out of the can

[@witheredtechnology]

Yea, it's surprisingly good, and you don't have to wash a dish. lol

[@charliecharliewhiskey9403]

@@witheredtechnology How do you cook it though? Just put the can in the oven? 😕

[@AstronautLoveTriangle]

​@@charliecharliewhiskey9403i would bet money it's room temp.

[@pi3tr3]

@@charliecharliewhiskey9403 the corn is already boiled... and tasty :P

[@audiolatroushearetic1822]

Call me strange, I hate it when sweet corn is mixed with other stuff and added to a meal, but I love eating plain sweet corn out of the can!

[@Sjoerd1993]

09:47, I appreciate showing a flowchart that actually accurately shows the Fedora/RHEL relation, with Fedora being the upstream to RHEL instead of the other way around. I absolutely agree that if Linux ever becomes dominant on the desktop, it very likely will not be known as Linux. SteamOS is a pretty good example on this, which deliberately is not called Steam Linux or Valve Linux. I think it's really not unlikely that we actually will be mainstream like that, but at the moment if that ever happens either Android or ChromeOS has the best odds of getting there. I think it's unlikely it will be a traditional Linux distro like Fedora, Arch or Ubuntu. Either way, it has to be something pre-installed. Regular people are not installing third party operating systems on their PC, and we will never reach desktop dominance like that. Which is one of the reasons I can see this happening with a Google-backed system.

[@witheredtechnology]

Yea, it's bittersweet seeing Linux-based distros getting bigger, but at the same time, it is being made by google.

[@jimgorlett4269]

im of the moonshot opinion that microsoft will ditch its kernel for linux and also support pathnames longer than 260 characters sometime in the next 20 years

[@gadzbi123]

It would make sense right? Remove the legacy and start from scratch

[@witheredtechnology]

@@gadzbi123 I mean Microsoft main selling point nowadays is the legacy support.

[@gadzbi123]

@@witheredtechnology I wonder if there will come a point that devs will be so expensive to support legacy windows that it will not be this profitable. Maybe in the next 20 years

[@witheredtechnology]

maybe soon thanks to apple moving to RISC based cpus. Though i hope ARM or something open source is what we switch too.

[@RegisBodnar]

Chrome OS is already NEARLY a GNU Linux! ... too bad about the spying and control...

[@fennecbesixdouze1794]

In addition to the Linux Development Environment that Chromebooks come with, it's also extremely easy to put custom coreboot firmware on a Chromebook to run Linux natively. And it's necessary to get extended security updates for Chromebooks past Google's support window. All of my Chromebooks have been converted to Linux machines.

[@RegisBodnar]

​@@fennecbesixdouze1794 IDK about "extremely esily," but I'm definitely typing this from a Pixelbook running Fedora!

[@DavideDavini]

Exchanging Microsoft for Google is a sidestep more than a step forward. IMO.

[@khavannahdunkley915]

You're opening statement says that you just don't get it.

[@brainstormsurge154]

I think it can be thought of in different ways. To me it's, "It does what I want," as the primary factor. A simple, "Do want!" and "Don't want!". I once got a Mac laptop at the recommendation of a friend. It was a couple years old and didn't perform well, it didn't run games and it didn't let me change things. It didn't do what I wanted and the whole thing just died on me a couple months after getting it. I had to pay people to recover the data at an Apple store. I will never touch another Apple product for as long as I live. They aren't built to last and they don't do what I want. They suck. This was when I didn't even know what Linux was.

[@Kunorrii]

I feel like rather than one company basically taking the majority of Linux's market share, Valve will help bring our current Linux to a more usable and stable state. They've started helping out with Wayland, cleaning up the poor management that went on over there. What I think will happen is Valve is going to give our current Linux a push, enough to be noticed by companies which will start porting their apps over to Linux. More people who use these apps will switch due to them now being native on Linux. More people, more apps, repeat.

[@witheredtechnology]

That plus the way Microsoft is acting with windows. Hopefully, more companies will feel more comfortable porting to linux distros now.

[@Kunorrii]

@@witheredtechnology With the death of Windows 10 in October 2025, I have a strong feeling that most of them will move to Linux rather than Windows 11 or macOS. That might be the leap in market share we need.

[@arthurpizza]

Native virtual machine support is coming to Android. Not just Google's Android but the AOSP. This might be a game changer in the next few years. Having containerized Linux applications running on energy efficient ARM tablets could be a contender for a standardized Linux experience.

[@plokko1]

Actually Linux is slowly but steadly taking his place as an OS: Linux is everywhere, from routers, iot, small devices, etc. but nowdays even Microsoft is incorporating Linux in Windows kernel (WSL) and releasing OFFICIAL IMAGES of their softwares; for example i run an SQL SERVER in Docker linux in production and the image is from Microsoft. If the server market is basically controlled by Linux it's another story for consumer market: even if drivers support for Linux is way better than before, there are too many UI standards, distros and not enought market for a developer spend time building an app for Linux; on ther hand consumers will have an hard time choosing a distro and will drop off beacause problems with drivers etc. I think linux for consumers can still be possible but will see a slow but steady adoption as it will be slowly incorporated and used in standard products and companies start integrating it in products (ex. replacing the buggy Windwos setups for TV advertizing or totems). The problem with some current Linux communities and distros is that, even if Linux lives only throught collaboration and sharing, they're more fixated on saying they're better because their distro is better instead of trying to help the community as a whole.

[@witheredtechnology]

Yea I hate "crab in bucket" mentally some distros have. Sometimes I read up on a distro on their website and it almost sound like propaganda.

[@elecman748]

Ironically, the Linux community lacks a lot of unity, at least in the sense of cohesion and cooperation, instead, they get salty after a minor discussion and create a fork from the original project, taking with him a good chunk of the devs/users, segmenting the distros even more

[@witheredtechnology]

@@elecman748 in the future there might be history classes about all the minor disagreement that have split distros. lol

[@christopherhorn5274]

I use Linux because it does what it is supposed to do. I tried to burn some data to a CD on my mom's Mac and it just didn't work. Nothing happened and all I could do was give up. I tried Windows for a time, and when I tried to use the disk defragmentation tool, same deal. It just didn't work the way it was supposed to. If you want software from Microsoft or Apple to actually work, you have to pay them even more for "support" to fix their own broken products. So I've run Linux for the past 25 years. Things almost always just work, which makes life so much less stressful.

[@JessicaFEREM]

I was given a macbook air M1, and I can't wait for the day when I can ditch macOS on this thing. I just need USB-C/thunderbolt displays and the mic would be a good addition. once those are on asahi, you can consider me done with MacOS. it looks nice but using it feels like I'm fighting with the OS the entire time, and I hate that.

[@Lup3r]

Hey a tip for your lighting, angle the ring light at 45 degrees from your face. You can add a secondary light on the other 45 degree angle if it creates too many shadows on your face. The ring light in your glasses is very distracting from the content 😂

[@witheredtechnology]

Yea, I saw it while editing. I am still learning how to get good shots. Thanks for the advice. I'll try it out. Also, do you mean 45° from below or the sides?

[@Lup3r]

@@witheredtechnology 45 degrees to the side

[@witheredtechnology]

@@Lup3r Thanks = )

[@AL5520]

I've been telling this to Linux users for years. use Windows as I don't have the patience for Linux (and I tries). I have no problem handling the system, finding solutions and tweaking it but I have no patience for this - I just want things to (mostly) work and the vast majority of users cannot, and will not, do things themselves. I get why Linux users love it but those who dream of Linux becoming the most used system need t understand that if it will happen it will look like Windows or macOS and not like the Linux they love. To keep what you have you need to remain a niche system - becoming mainstream will ruin it for you.

[@ADeeSHUPA]

Zorin OS

[@anuragrai6030]

@@ADeeSHUPAa crappy Ubuntu fork with a bunch of extensions?

[@joshfromsmosh3352d]

And it's not maintained as often as needed?

[@almc8445]

The corn is disgusting wtf... After pushing through that though, I broadly agree with what you've said - It's not likely that the varied linux distros will all take off

[@herrbonk3635]

Don't know, but I know I always hated that icy pingvin.

[@adventureswithpaulandsally5516]

Calling Linux a brand is like calling bald a hair colour. I understand when you're a KZbinr selling yourself as a brand in order to get other brands to give you money for talking about their brand, everything starts to look like a brand...but it never was a brand.

[@PixLgams]

Well in the most basic terms, when Linux isn't a brand then why did they have a competition for an official mascot? That's a type of branding, specifically to be recognizable.

[@adventureswithpaulandsally5516]

@@PixLgams in the commercial world, many companies will create a mascot as part of their brand image, but that doesn't make all mascots brand images. The actual definition of a mascot is: a person, animal, or object adopted by a group as a symbolic figure especially to bring them good luck. That is all the penguin is.

[@JonitoFischer]

Linux is not a brand, it's a kernel (not even a complete OS, it lacks the userspace apps), it's not a product. The concept of distribution or distro is more close to a "brand" concept like windows or macos.

[@Siltprogramation]

I am sorry, but I don't get the argument about multiple distros being a problem. I do agree that only two or three will became relevant to main-stream, like ChromeOS, SteamOS or Android, however.

[@axelljungqvist]

Make a distro that is as user friendly as macOS and call it something simple. Build it from the user perspective and make sure every common task is doable without a terminal. I believe the transition could start with the tech-uninterested web-surfers that just uses the web browser, and continue as professional programs get ported to linux.

[@witheredtechnology]

I think that's what google is planning with chrome os. It's smart I'm just unhappy it google doing it.

[@axelljungqvist]

@@witheredtechnology I dont know much about chrome os, but isnt it pretty locked down, like some kind of android for laptops? Maybe it takes a crazy open source enthusiast to make a good, open, and userfriendly distro. And thats much work to carry on ones shoulders

[@witheredtechnology]

I think new chrome books come with access to the linux terminal. I used to daily drive a cheap one that I put the gallium distro on(its a distro made for chrome books). It think as it gains market share google is slowly making it a real os.

[@katrinabryce]

You have just described ChromeOS.

[@AyaWetts]

I tried Ubuntu and struggled and hated it and gave up a while... then I finally got into Linux using Manjaro KDE. I used it for all kinds of stuff and it was great. I never even opened a terminal for several months, and only because I wanted to learn things about it...

[@fennecbesixdouze1794]

Why do you, personally, want Linux to become the default operating system? You definitely want to have enough users that companies are incentivized to provide support for Linux, but after that you start to get diminishing returns or even start encountering negative side-effects of having too many users. I feel like alongside server Linux, consumer devices like Android phones, Chromebooks, Steam Deck, Raspberry Pi etc are great because they have built-in user-bases that guarantee Linux's long-term viability. I don't feel like I ever have to worry that I won't be able to use Linux for years to come, given the vested interests so many different companies have to support the platform. So at this point, what do I care about convincing a bunch of other people to use Linux? I don't mind being part of an exclusive club of mostly very tech-savvy people, because that's the OS I prefer to use anyway: something built with tech-savvy people in mind, i.e. with people like me in mind, not the lowest-common denominator.

[@witheredtechnology]

I don't want linux the way it is right now to change. I think the way linux is right now is the best for its current audience. Though I think that if instead of windows there was a distro that could market to the every man even though the people who use linux now would probably won't use it. We could gain benfits from it like how we gained better gaming capabilities after valve started to push toward linux. I also think it would be best for the world if the desktop computer market wasn't controlled by one company.

[@fennecbesixdouze1794]

@@witheredtechnology There have been plenty of distros marketed to Windows users. In my estimation they pursue superficial aspects: replicating the interface or idioms of Windows, or "marketing to the everyman". I think this misses the point of why people use Windows. Apart from a few self-styled "Windows power users", people certainly don't use Windows because they love the idioms or the interface: Windows doesn't even like its own idioms or its own interface, it keeps changing it. So let's think more carefully about why people use Windows. We can start with this: "I also think it would be best for the world if the desktop computer market wasn't controlled by one company." The "desktop computer market" isn't actually one market, it splits up at least into Commercial, Consumer, and Industrial. The only thing you've talked about so far would be Consumer. But the Commercial market makes up for 54% of the desktop computer market. I actually haven't had any trouble setting home computer users up with Linux computers, as most consumer apps (even Microsoft Office) can be accessed via web. But getting corporate networks to accept it is going to take a lot more, from endpoint management software that runs on only Windows, to private enterprise operational software that has been written for Windows only.

[@witheredtechnology]

I also don’t think it’s difficult to get regular people to use Linux as their desktop OS. I even have a video titled 'How to Get Idiots (Like Me) to Use Linux.' However, I think there might be a misunderstanding. My previous comment wasn’t really about the video; it was just meant for fun. As for the video itself, you probably know the meme 'It's the Year of the Linux Desktop.' That reflects my view that Linux has a branding issue. It’s not for everyone, similar to how macOS isn’t for everyone. In the video, I made sure to compare Linux more to macOS. My point is that Linux lacks a primary unifier because we have so many distributions, but we do have a secondary unifier: we are all builders and fixers (4:34 - 5:04). I admit that Linux is a good fit for people who enjoy tinkering. I apologize if I didn’t articulate my points clearly in the video; I’m still new to making videos like this. I also hope this comment doesn’t come off as aggressive, as I’m not the greatest writer. I’m all ears for any advice on how I could improve my videos to make my points clearer. Thanks!

[@fennecbesixdouze1794]

​@@witheredtechnology Nah man you're good, thanks for chatting more with me about the topic. I think you're being really clear. I just don't think brand identity is as big of a component to this as you think. Obviously it's an appealing, cute story to talk about how our brains rationalize decisions and how really we're just trying to express ourselves and ... sure that's a big component of Apple products. But then there are also just other cold hard factors that make up a much bigger part of the picture.

[@witheredtechnology]

​@@fennecbesixdouze1794 Yea i agree with the fact that the cold hard factors matter more but i dont know if i agree with that because we are both linux users.lol. Maybe the market dosent really care about it as much as we do. it was fun chatting with you. =)

[@tutacat]

Well, mac and cheese can be expensive.

[@bernardoborges8598]

Bro I just started eating canned corn and then you appear with one in your hand... Let's go 😂🌽

[@witheredtechnology]

Man canned corn hits different.

[@tato-chip7612]

It's funny because I am an artist as a hobby and use linux

[@witheredtechnology]

I know you can use basically an distro at this point but do you prefer a specific distro?

[@tato-chip7612]

@@witheredtechnology just fedora, I can use anything but in most cases fedora works great for me.

[@Thebeast_QwQ]

the multitude of linux distros existing is because of just how the nature of freedom is. but even if there are 1000+ distros, only 2-3 are actually recommended to 90% people. the problem is that windows users try to use linux as if it was windows, using shitty paradigms that have been ingrained in their head. linux doesn't have as big a desktop market space as windows because most people just dont care at all. most people will use whatever OS their laptop came with until it is unusable. there's no way to significantly improve how popular linux is unless laptops decide to ship with it (which may increase more as windows continues to become bigger bloat and more unusable on consumer hardware)

[@ADeeSHUPA]

Zorin OS

[@jimlake6021]

corn

[@unAgorist]

it is a no brand, linux users aren't brand slaves

[@jr.jackrabbit10]

lots of people use android every day without realizing it's linux i think that's the big dramatic irony about all of this. people use linux every day whether they want to or not when they go to use the internet, hosted on servers that are 99.9% linux. and yet, the linux community wants linux to grow and flourish and have more support as a desktop workstation, and so we say that we are in the minority. Even though, if you look at it with a certain perspective, we are the most ubiquitous OS out there. edit: okay it's not an OS but you get what i mean

[@witheredtechnology]

No you are right mobile os's and server os's are still operating systems and at those 2 thing linux has a leading market share. So linux has great support with both those sphere. However since linux is a minority in desktop systems. Linux doesn't have much support for desktop users. I know they are all linux but servers and phones users having good support doesn't help desktop all that much. though there is probably some trickle down. =)

[@pi3tr3]

correct me if i'm wrong but it seems you point to the problem that in Linux there is too much diversity. in some sense it's a good thing, but in other sense, not so much. it's a reason to be proud and elitist and free of viruses, malwares etc. but on the other hand, too much diversity is what keeps people away from Linux. and Linux, in some sense it's one. although so diverse. on the yet-another-hand I would hate for companies to ruin Linux like they do with Windows. I suppose Windows some day soon, will crash and people will migrate away from this OS, but I would have this rebellious wonder called Linux be left alone as in so many distros, and FREE rather than have the ugly dirty grip of mindless corporations on this wonderful world of ours, the world of Linux.

[@witheredtechnology]

Yea that exactly what i mean. Though i think that we should sacrifice 1 distro to the unwashed masses to improve compatibility for all distros. lol

[@nilamelody]

Is Linux even a brand to begin with? not sure where you get the idea that it's a brand, let alone a good or bad one.

[@jimlake6021]

he means that if you brand something as linux

[@s-Ross]

I don't like linux because of it anti individual freedom aproach. I switched from Windows to Linux in 2018 because Windows has become spyware. But never been in the state of mind that I would have recommend linux to someone. Now I use a M2 Pro Mac since one a half week and I highly appreciate how nice Linux is compare to MacOS. Maybe one day I take a look at Asahi Linux. But at the moment i try to get into Mac OS. Sadly I can't give the Mac to my mom because she really will not like it. So unintuitive. Always I connect bluetooth heaphones Apple Music opens. I can't uninstall Apple Music, I don't use Apple Music and I can't deactivate the auto opening when connect bluetooth headphones. What a joy

[@Sjoerd1993]

> I don't like linux because of it anti individual freedom aproach. Did you mean to write MacOS there?

[@s-Ross]

@@Sjoerd1993 No, not at all. No one expects to have any kind of freedom with MacOS or Windows. What I mean is that the GPL is communism at its finest. If you contribute anything to Linux or any other GPL licensed software you immediately lose all rights to your creation. The collective is everything, the individual is nothing. Pure communism. And it is precisely because of this approach that Linux has such a hard time.

[@Gskvj]

Too many distros holding Linux back iss nonsensical, and fundamentally mischaracterises the entire community as having a product manager leading the charge. Anything that is a fork of a fork of a fork should not be used as a first distro for new Linux users. Ubuntu as a "default" distro with its rice of GNOME also has created a bad impression on Desktop Linux for alot of people who only give Linux a 5 minute attempt. Fedora KDE, Linux Mint, Kubuntu is probably alright for newbies.

[@Kifter1983]

It doesn't help that Tux looks overweight. Why they feel the need to give him a belly I'm not sure...

[@Sjoerd1993]

"Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100 mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had." -- Linus Torvalds (actual quote)

[@gjkdshgkjshjkgdfg]

i think it's cute, and is literally the best OS logo/mascot ever. the dull 4 blue squares of windows is not memorable at all and literally evokes no sense of connection to your OS.

[@codeman99-dev]

Jumping right past the fact Linux is incredibly successful in every other market. Therefore almost all the branding isn't for individuals, but rather created for big corporate fish. Linux could absolutely be successful on the desktop. If that's something you desire, then go help the projects really making that happen. Contribute to Proton, Wayland, Cosmic Desktop, etc... We are building that brand *now*. Open your eyes. Move your feet to make it happen.

[@Nom3x]

I just use it for home server

[@ucchuman]

its GNU\LINUX

[@AshNonokPlays]

ubuntu

[@KrishnalPanara]

Isn't linux a product and canoical the Brand?

[@katrinabryce]

Linux is a kernel, and various different people build operating system distributions using it.

[@thoughtsuponatime847]

It isn’t a brand problem. Linux is simply not user friendly.

[@rivubardhan6376]

Did you use it?

[@thoughtsuponatime847]

@@rivubardhan6376 I have been using Linux for 10 years. I remember getting started. It was ugly.

[@DamjanDimitrioski]

Yes, so unfriendly, unlike window$ who you need to open cmd (f10) during install to disable wifi, use some commands to enable offline user (normal OS user) and other rituals. And you need rufus (which is an external tools to flash the OS iso) to install the os. And you need at least 3 hours to install. So friendly. Then to set everything up post install you will a day, no wonder PC service shops prosper :D :D. Other friendly things: 3-4 GUI programs for settings; printers randomly got removed, print shares disappear. Don't make me start on the auto update feature, so friendly indeed, it restarts your computer during important investors pitch making you lose revenue. Or if you're in hurry to pack your laptop, you need to wait for the updates to finish and you can't force shut it down. And you have to pray each boot after updates if the OS will boot, even atheist pray for win to boot :D :D normally. Definitely the friendlies OS on the market. So, my Ubuntu where I can install the OS on a new device in 3 minutes (minus the boot time of the live usb) and with one click I can install commercial nvidia drivers post install, and with one script I can install all the other programs I need.

[@thoughtsuponatime847]

@@rivubardhan6376 yes. I have been using Linux for 10 years. I remember learning to use it. It was awful.

[@Sjoerd1993]

Really? I'd say ChromeOS and Android both prove that Linux is user-friendly enough for the main stream market. What makes you think otherwise?

[@joroc]

Linux is not a OS

[@Poifix]

Nah. Linux is not the future. MacOS is more likely to be the future than Linux ever will be.

[@Sjoerd1993]

Not going to happen, a single hardware vendor will not take over the desktop market, especially if they're only competing in the higher price-segment. There's a 100x higher probability that something like Android will eventually take over the traditional desktop, than MacOS doing this.

[@Poifix]

@@Sjoerd1993 Well I guess so.

[@WhatWillYouFind]

Linux cant be a brand, it is a kernel. Linux isn't even an OS . . . the distro which has compiled the kernel and surrounding software layers you interact with makes it an OS. Thats all you need to know, funny title though. :)

[@DROPKICK500gaming]

Don't forget the GNU!

[@DamjanDimitrioski]

What branding, who cares about logos and marketing, it's word of mouth that matters the most, if you hear it on a tv or random ad then probably is a scam. People barely can use window$ (they got tech friends to bother about common actions: install the os, install some game and application, clean the system, and m$ thinks: see the user can do stuff on its own :D), and they can't afford mac, and most don't use GNU/Linux because some half brain friends (which are win fanboys) tell it not to try it. And those who tried it stayed for eons. All 3 major OSs are easy to use and install, the problem is people are dumb, why do you think they remake the installers every now and then, to adapt to the mass intelligence. The difference between the OSs is how stable the drivers are availability of some software that no one uses, which you can solve if you got cash, just get another device (or if possible virtualize it) for that ugly software and use GNU/Linux or mac as a main OS, and also difference is who has the control in an OS: - window$: m$ and devs control you, and maybe malwares - mac: apple controls you - gnu/linux: you control you