How Mozilla lost the Internet (& what's next)

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[@derplo8372]

Now that Google is actively restricting Ad Blockers in Chrome and chrome-based browsers with Manifest v3, I hope Firefox gets a push.

[@floppa9415]

I'm running edge and litterly nothing has changed.

[@darklord-mw7jd]

​@@floppa9415yet.

[@jirikral1052]

Unfortunately most people won't probably care.

[@derplo8372]

​@@floppa9415 Some chrome-based browsers still support Manifest v2, at least for the time being. uBlock Origin had to release a lite version for Manifest v3, so there were definitely limitations with Manifest v3. It's then just a question of how slowly they cook the frog.

[@derplo8372]

@@floppa9415 Some chrome-based browsers will still support Manifest v2 for now. uBlock Origin had to release a lite version for Manifest v3, so there were definitely limitations with Manifest v3. It's then just a question of how slowly they cook the frog...

[@INSTAFLIXMEDIA]

Don't care how many users use firefox. I have been using it for almost two decades and will continue to do till they shut down the damn company!

[@Chikowski101]

There's no place like chrome

[@TechnoMinded-qp5in]

@@Chikowski101 Chrome is spyware jokes on you hackers are already trying to steal your data.

[@nishant54]

@@Chikowski101 There is

[@jacobgames3412]

​@@Chikowski101there is

[@grapy83]

Same 😁. I love Firefox and don't even understand why they aren't super hit

[@lenOwOo]

Annual spending of Kde : $1 mill Gnome : $2.5 mill Blender : $3.5 mill Apache : $ 3 mill Krita : $ 700k-100k Linux : $ 8 mill Mozilla : $400 mill - $ 500mill? Exuse me? Blender have around 50 full time employee while other foundation have around just 10-20. Yet Mozilla have almost 1k? And ceo that got paid for $8 mill for what?. . Pushing away people? Instead of funding firefox, isn't the foundation just. . . .actually sucking firefox bloods dry?

[@darko.v]

Good point... why is this?

[@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV]

According to their latest annual report KDE spent sub 500k

[@turtlefrog369]

mozilla is more than firefox. they ahve a lot of projects.

[@juli123456789123]

​@@turtlefrog369kde also has a lot of projects.

[@RectalPower]

@@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV freak

[@ferdgerbeler8494]

They don't need more income, they need to get rid of the corporate leaches calling themselves 'management' .

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

Bro they're a fraction of the size they were, they could need both, it's not mutually exclusive.

[@cbs1710]

Give me an option to donate EXCLUSIVELY to the Firefox Development and Firefox team, with fully-transparent 0% going anywhere else (especially not C-suite scum), and I will gladly donate 10 USD every single month.

[@bader3677]

oof u rich af

[@natanmaia3575]

Cool. Google still pays a few billion to Firefox each year. 120USD is nothing even if there were millions like you (there aren't). They're in a pickle. Delving into ads may also make Google see them as a competitor and cut some funding as well. It's a shame, I'm not even sure what they're doing to accrue all those expenses...

[@cbs1710]

@@bader3677 By all means, share with the rest of the class the assumptions you have made about me. Let's see how close you got it.

[@mysterry2000]

​@@natanmaia3575 iirc Google's investments mainly for two things: 1. to maintain MDN (a worldwide resource for web developers, including for Chrome) and 2. to provide Google as the main search engine. The way I understand it, Google doesn't give a hot diggidy damn about Firefox's development as a browser - they focus on Chrome Mostly, at least. The exception is to push the online advertising agenda so that the Web can be monetizable to their monopoly, even if it gets enshittified (which they wouldn't give a damn about either)

[@cbs1710]

@@natanmaia3575 They are being terribly mismanaged IMO, they never stick around with anything, keep cancelling projects that would have been worth it if they stuck to it, etc. The Google "safe bet" has led to the C-suite payouts, and arrogance, and errosion of trust we have been seeing for years. Meanwhile, they stagnated on the development and Chrome overtook them, then Google maintained the stagnation with its payouts. Then they did the Quantum revamp of Firefox, and pissed off majority of their users by deprecating all addons, promising they will bring the features back (guess what, not even the promissed session management API got back). No customizability of that level was ever restored back. Then the C-holes fired the whole servo team, whule giving themselves bonuses (all yhe while complaining that they are underpaid). Way before that - there was Proton, also abandoned. Mozilla could and should be the beacon and promoter of privacy on the internet, but they can stick with anything. And 120 USD of my money would isn't a lot, but multiplied by a factor would make it possible for Firefox to be Firefox, and be self-reliant.

[@VictorZenloth]

Firefox highlights the resilience of open source software as it is essentially the open sourcing of Netscape Navigator. Even if Mozilla the company goes under, it will live on as an open source project as plenty of corporations are interested in an open source alternative to Chrome as well as Mozilla's development of the Rust programming language.

[@FengLengshun]

@@VictorZenloth I don't know. Maybe it can be kept alive, but for them to continue being developed? Whatever the shape that Mozilla and Firefox was, when you consider how hard it has been to push for features users asked for years, you have to admit it has been reshaped into the bloated entity and codebase it has become now. It just never had the benefit of a passionate, focused, and competent BDFL like Linux kernel did. I have more hopes in the Ladybug browser becoming good than post-Mozilla Firefox being able to continue to advance beyond its last state.

[@sanjay_swain]

Bruh. If mozilaa goes down that is the literal end of firefox... It is impossible for any kind of browser to be properly funded by donations due to the sheer complexity of web. Trust me there is no one going to take over the development of an entire browser engine unless someone ACTUALLY pays for it at market rates. The backward compaitibility and changing web standard support is NOT fun. It is not like linux. Not even close. There are no thousands of companies who use linux for there businesses. It is not 2000s where the web standards can be written in few page of a document. Now you need an entire 1000 page book just to show current web standards and that is not even accounting for depracated stuff which have to be supported unless you want to simply make millions of POPULAR old webpages unusable.

[@Andre-LA]

I think Servo is more likely to be the push as an FOSS browser engine than Gecko if moz gets closed. It was from moz labs, and now under linux foundation.

[@xanderplayz3446]

⁠@@sanjay_swain*laughs in people maintaining forks because they like the project*

[@xanderplayz3446]

@@Andre-LAI personally think Ladybird will. It is relatively slow now, but you can order a pizza from it!

[@mr.alkenly889]

I think the bigger issue is the upper management at the company, they need to cut costs not increase revenue

[@NeroVingian40]

They need to do both, can’t just choose one.

[@circuitdotlt]

Yes, I wonder how do they manage to spend $600M/y on a browser. 1% of that should be enough to maintain a web browser.

[@Aphelia.]

I've switched to Mozilla Firefox a few years ago and it has been fantastic. They can pry it from my cold dead hands, I'm not letting that foundation go.

[@syed2194]

Agreed. I absolutely love Firefox.

[@freechurros]

Proton should seize the opportunity and just build a browser.

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Firefox user here 👍

[@Shadow_banned_by_YouTube]

Chrome user there 👇

[@Sum_Yousah]

​@@Shadow_banned_by_KZbinIn case you don't know, Google (who also owns KZbin) likes to shadowban and censor people 😉

[@SushmaVivek-xq4nv]

Posting from firefox

[@shortycarnage]

Must be lonely

[@cat86581]

Them losing shares in not surprising, considering most phones come with chrome pre-installed and uninstallable. I use a xiaomi, it drives me up the wall, I have a folder named garbage just for apps like this.

[@rus.t]

As much as a subscription model is a somewhat safer option for Mozilla, I don't think the general public will bite this... specially considering that people are starting to get tired of subscription services in so many things.

[@sanjay_swain]

Yes. Subscription model would be a complete destruction of their entire marketshare... There is no browser with a subscription model and no way in hell VAST majority even those who are VERY vocal about "privacy" will pay for it. They will just fork it and use a clone of firefox but no one would pay for it.

[@aieverythingsfine]

why the flying christ would i pay for a broswer that uses 6gb of ram to load a single web page? its bonkers mun

[@hastyscorpion]

​@@aieverythingsfineit doesn't...

[@aieverythingsfine]

@@hastyscorpion mine is bro, and when you google it,its normal. Google "why is firefox using all my memory"

[@cosmiccat3383]

​@@aieverythingsfineHi this goes for all browsers but add-ons multiple their ram usage by tabs so make sure you don't have a bunch of useless shit

[@aaronboothproduction]

I'm watching this on Firefox right now. I've used it since the early 2000's and never even knew they were in a decline.

[@irregulargamer1352]

Can't really decline if they've never risen

[@brutester]

I can tell you how they lost me as user in 2009-2010, after a patch I was no longer able to use Firefox to login to Office Web Access. This meant nobody in office can do their daily job. A bug was open by many folks to Mozilla, and the reply of the developers was "OWA should fix their code, we won't touch anything". Chrome had similar issue, but they've pushed an emergency patch. All corporate computers got Chrome instead of Firefox the same day.

[@viliml2763]

That's a W for Mozilla. You filed the bug to the wrong place.

[@KuruGDI]

I would donate to Mozilla or Firefox, but as there looks to be like making Firefox worse over the last decade, I don't see any reason why a donation would be a good investment.

[@snygg1993]

I would not donate to a corporation that pay's their CEO $8M. That's the pay for at least 80 full time developers wasted for nothng. Why should I donate if it is not spend on the product but only wasted for the next new yacht of that CEO?

[@lakshannv]

The only reason I don't use Firefox is because it doesn't support HDR content yet. As soon as they fix it, I'm switching to team Firefox.

[@NeistH2o]

I switched to firefox on my PC about 2 years ago, i m never going back. i really love it :)

[@mauricioflores3732]

If Firefox makes a Google drive alternative with zero knowledge encryption and a Gmail alternative I’ll switch from Google services 💪🏻

[@triadwarfare]

Mozilla seems to be covertly arrogant. They removed the ability to open files without saving since build 99 because they believe that's it's good for the users. I don't like it because I have one-off reports and I do not like cluttering my downloads folder. I think there's a way to re-enable it but this requires special access in a group policy if you're working under an organization. Good luck getting dev access approved if you're not part of security or a web developer.

[@a.yashwanth]

In edge it downloads the files in temp folder by default and it gives a save as option if you want to save somewhere else. So once it downloads the file I click save as and select respective folder only if I want to save it specific location.

[@FM-kl7oc]

LibreWolf is what people think Firefox is; privacy focused and ad-free.

[@chb3546]

Why they need $600M / year ?

[@lenOwOo]

Because they need to pay 750 people that barely or not even contribute to the actual browsers betterment

[@Mario583a]

Believe it or not, it takes money to develop a browser and to pay their employees for their time doing so. Also, foundation is not just the browser portion.

[@hastyscorpion]

​@@Mario583a700 million dollars pays for 3000 to 7000 developers...

[@-zero-]

its money laundering, plus look at ceo salary 😂

[@VeganCossack]

@@Mario583a I'm a Firefox user myself but I don't see much of that development going on. There have been no new meaningful features in years and FF now looks like Internet Explorer compared to Vivaldi and Edge (their performance seems to be worse though)

[@alfiowo]

I won't move to a chromium based browser for my main one until Firefox dies or they move on to chromium for some reason...

[@burhanbudak6041]

8:10 Mozilla had more cool projects for de-googling like TTS, STT, voice to search, mobileOS etc. But that social project board spent on crap.

[@Dimkar3000]

Hmmmm I think you may have missed a really core problem. Firefox used to be ahead. It has been declining for while now, well, because the users will go with the fastest solution. For me, if they focus on making firefox faster they will recover their users organicaly. That been said, besting chrome on speed is not easy. They will have to invest heavily on firefox instead of chasing all the random ideas they have been chasing for the last decade. I am pretty sure they are making enough money to do so, if they stop chasing on all those random ideas🤣. Unless they have decided that they are going to switch from been a browser company to an advertising one. Well then, what's the point? I will just use chrome, it's faster. At least this is my opinion.

[@Dkeralite]

Switched to linux when windows 7 went EOL. and ever since i just use FF. Love it. Especially their add on containers. its not that i hate chromium based browsers but literally everything is chromium is what i hate.

[@FloydMaxwell]

Wiki: "Chambers stated that she will not be seeking a permanent position as CEO, as she plans to return to Australia later in 2024 for family reasons" Another bad sign.

[@ca09z]

I donate to other projects and I would donate to Mozilla too if the money was used for browser development... apparently it's not, so I don't.

[@tryfinally]

the ceo needs to go

[@dividead100]

As one of the more enthusiast users of mozzila if they said "We need money to keep mozilla relevant but those who don't want ads can easily turn them off" I would have been 100% ok with it as I always go into settings anyway after I install a browser anyway. This way they can make money of the the more mainstream user and not annoy me to any relevant degree. If this won't be something that can be turned off mozilla will just crumble as they don't exist without their core audience.

[@wile123456]

Proton did what mozilla should: Make a VPN way earlier, challenge google's drive and documents suite.

[@centy64]

"People say they want software without tracking, without ads" They do indeed but that isn't what Mozilla are offering. FF has tracking on by default, doesn't come with a built in ad blocker, and thanks to the deal with google comes with the least privacy respecting search engine on by default. I am much more willing to donate to say the Librewolf team because they take the Firefox that Mozilla make and actually makes it privacy respecting and ad free. They are doing a much better job with Thunderbird and the rest of the company should learn from that part.

[@Freak80MC]

Me obliviously using Firefox not knowing or caring about it's greater extent among the browser competition. I just love Firefox, always have since I switched from Chrome lol

[@israellewis5484]

Mozilla is in the dirt man.

[@adrianwolff2007]

Have been using Firefox based browser and always will no matter what.

[@CecilEtienne]

Sorry but Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome sucks. I am never leaving Firefox.

[@imqqmi]

I am one of the regular donators of FF and TB, about $20 each every year since say 2015. It's sad that the ads monetization scheme is the only one most of the companies see as the one to go for. What FF really needs is a good ad campaign itself, not being an ads platform of itself. Google probably doesn't allow it, so there's the rub.

[@kinanalhawat6753]

I even use Firefox on my mobile devices.

[@PaulPlay]

Firefox is not only the only real competitor to Chromium, it's also the better web engine, in my opinion.

[@blender_tom]

What they've done with Thunderbird is amazing - it's still open source, but they've taken back some control so it's not a dumpster fire full of features and sub menus.

[@mik3lang3lo]

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

[@parihar-shashwat]

I am one of the user still using firefox from 32% to 3% , still holding onto firefox since 2008. Chrome has always been too slow for my system and now their uBlock origin ban, this 3% is bound to bounce back.

[@Mario583a]

3% of 97~99% not even knowing what an adblocker is capable of doing and/or saving is ... between approximately 100.4 million and 102.5 million people blissfully unaware.

[@ericdanielski4802]

Nice video.

[@irregulargamer1352]

Firefox is just too ram hungry for average performance. And I hate when users tell me that I'm supposed to tweak it for it to work better. Excuse me? Then why doesn't it run like that from the start?

[@willemvandebeek]

Firefox and Proton should merge somehow...

[@xanderplayz3446]

Or Proton should fork Firefox.

[@lightsidemaster]

This is a fucking fantastic idea

[@Envido32]

A complementary collaboration would be amazing

[@CathrineMacNiel]

I mean, proton is nice and all... but the potential do become Google 2.0 is too big when they also own a browser then.

[@Nobody2989]

It doesn't matter what Mozilla the company does; privacy junkies will just fork the browser into a more privacy-focused version without intrusive ads if the company goes too far.

[@thepopeofkeke]

I have only used Firefox for 12 years

[@wuliou]

It's really sad to see Mozilla came to this situation as a long term user of Firefox since 1.5 (2005). I rather they change like one dolloar per month to keep this project going.

[@veryCreativeName0001-zv1ir]

there's a reason why foss not funded by big corps fail because building a browser is hard work and good engineers don't exactly come cheap, while open-source contributors do exist it will never achieve the same level of finas of chrome unless you pay someone to do it as a day job the alternative is obvious - monetization

[@kimi17171]

I was a longtime firefox user. ditched it 4 years ago for brave. never looked back.

[@NEVIXIA]

I use Firefox on everything… I appreciate the simplicity of getting much needed extensions on it & not being screwed over by googles chrome browser or anything with MV3 being shoved down our throats. If Firefox does end up doing it then I’ll look into something else that fits my needs/expectations. I don’t mind ads if they aren’t intrusive and over an hour or non skippable.

[@scheitinjebroek]

I'm curious to see how Servo, and Ladybird engines will do once they come stable

[@ninesixworm]

Still using firefox!

[@Mario583a]

I don't care who Google sends, I am not switching to Chrome/Chromium!

[@kekkodance]

the thing is that their analytics won't show people switching to firefox forks or firefox-based browsers. so their marketshare is actually higher.

[@arof7605]

Yeah, I'm on Waterfox, not Firefox main branch, with no plans to. Firefox main lost me when it did it's addon power nuke (very much like manifest v3 but even more extreme in terms of how much power it took away from plugins) back in v57 or something like that. There are still things original Firefox addons did that no addon or plugin has been able to emulate since, and I still hold a bit of a grudge over that to be honest. The experience in Waterfox has been alright, with oddly enough Edge serving as a secondary for media consumption (KZbin/Twitch which I have paid adblocking to help support creators for) so I can easily recycle the memory use of those tabs by just re-opening them.

[@darukutsu]

most people who use forks are linux users and not all so add max 1.5%

[@DanKillam]

As a subscriber to Pocket, VPN and the mail relay, all these products feel on long-term EOL support. No new features. I've lost faith in Mozilla's ability to maintain product focus. With the new Ad focus, I have a very bad feeling. I wish someone would hard fork and free Mozilla from the corporate stooges that seem to be running it into the ground.

[@Mempler]

I hope mozilla pushes a non tracking advertisement. Unlike google. In that way, they would still be the good guy

[@nopetarpan]

Still using it

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

I'm sticking with Firefox until I have no other option, I temporarily switched to chrome but came running back a bit before google started trying to disable ad blockers.

[@KMO325]

I still use Firefox in combination with other browsers (except Chrome), but it is a bit sad to see the fall-off. I started using FF my first year of University in 2008. But it seems other open source browsers started catching-up in the mid-2010s.

[@bobalachabbs]

I have used Firefox since I heard about it in the mid-2000s. And I definitely still plan to with Chrome removing the practical method of ad-blocking with manifest v3 or whatever it is.

[@cpuuk]

I've been FF since day 1, still never seen a single ad on YT ^__^

[@ETXD-fb5rn]

I use kiwi for extension support . Is it good ?

[@egorkosten]

Became a Firefox user 2 years ago because it was faster on my old iPhone and iPad. Now I’m using it even on my PC, I just hate animation madness in safari on iOS. I feel like the good test for all the software trying to use it on old hardware, eye opening…

[@j.jsamra]

honestly I feel like proton and firefox should merge. maybe the profits from protons subscription could offset the costs of running firefox keeping it ad free and free in general the way amazon the website isnt profitable but is funded by aws. but that is a long shot dream.

[@cr8xtremeCaRnAgE]

Active Firefox user last 15 years

[@anoukk_]

Tbh I would probably be more likely to donate if they actually advertised it. Wikipedia has also enticed me to donate. But Wikipedia doesn't really have any other source of revenue and Mozarilla reads to me more as a bloated for profit entity

[@l0gic23]

Id donate to the Firefox project as soon as they remove all the advertising and other bloat from the browser. Be private, secure, and open and ill donate.

[@Linck192]

I don't see the point of it all. What are they actually trying to do? "Shrinking into irrelevance" doesn't sound that much of a problem if I don't know what you need the relevance for

[@JeffBilkins]

I feel they have way too much overpaid staff and side activities like this CEO lady.

[@Nogood_Sobad]

You got me thinking, its Friday

[@peterkoi1535]

They also have orbit ai which you can use to summarize the content of a webpage or ask questions about it, it's beta tho

[@TheJensss]

I use it because we as consumers can't risk a Google monopoly. I also like Brave.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

Recently switched back to Firefox after about a decade using Chrome... It's honestly fine.

[@starcrash1750]

If they put the Firefox focus to PC then i move to them 😂

[@sinom]

Focus doesn't really make sense on desktop since it's mostly just so you can open stuff from other apps with it which closes and deletes all data once you leave. Since you don't really have such a reliance on apps on the desktop this approach doesn't make much sense there.

[@rafagd]

MDN is the only thing I still care about in Mozilla.

[@brawales]

I love Firefox. I've been using it for years and do not intend to change it.

[@gnerkus]

Mozilla has cancer. Patiently waiting for Mozilla to introduce a huge e-begging banner, Wikipedia style.

[@_xolari]

I hope Firefox will live on and become more important again.

[@szymon1051tv]

What use on Linux if not Firefox 😭

[@JoshuaT902]

If firefox adds tab grouping, local ai tab grouping, workspaces. Then i might switch back from vivaldi

[@PedroHenriquePS00000]

Mozilla should build an OS... we only have ms/google and apple and that sucks

[@Mario583a]

If only people were to get onboard with the idea of FirefoxOS....

[@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV]

They did, no one wanted it. Also there are tons of operating systems other than Windows, ios/mac, and android. Like Linux and the BSDs.

[@Jacob6853]

In the 2010's they pushed their OS for phones. It flopped badly.

[@MapleEmpire]

it is baffling how many ads platforms outside Apple show their users lmao

[@sgt_mate]

Mozilla is my default for browsing for years now and mail for a few months. I wont switch until i have to.

[@Sacrimony]

Watching this video on Firefox right now. I say I'd rather Mozilla gets a share of the pie until it's proven that they do not really encrypt data. Having to see ads on Chrome because they were forced on me is a worse choice to me.

[@Dennis-ur4zu]

Why give a 🦆 on who wins or loses? Nothing will stop me from using what works best for me, and neither should you.

[@DK-ue5ks]

I switch to firefox this year. From my phone to computer. I am just fed up with google and chrome.

[@murrrr8288]

Why the hell does it cost half a billion dollars a year to code web browser?

[@d.a.n.]

firefox for android as a KZbin web mobile wrapper for a few years - no ads, backround and PIP play- sponsorblock having skipped 100+hrs of sponsorship segments :) better experience than paying for premium. support the content creators you truly value directly

[@pakhilnair]

I was a long time FF user that switched to Edge. FF simply didn't get better with features. No vertical tabs. No PWA support (I use Linux), No easy profile switcher (containers aint it) etc. imo, its not a browser for 2024. I'm aware of edge's privacy risks but it just helps me do stuff a lot faster and better than FF.

[@0.Andi.0]

I found a vertical tabs toggle on about:config, looks cool but its not complete

[@houdini329]

You use Edge on Linux? Wtf

[@pakhilnair]

@@0.Andi.0 Yep. It feels hacky.

[@alsiniz]

You can add PWA support with an extension. Saved me in the early days of the WhatsApp app for windows when it was extremely cursed.

[@ivangraupera]

Enthusiasts be like: - Hate ads - Hate subscriptions - Hate purchases - Not interested in donations - Shocked when the company that supports their favorite product doesn't make enough money to sustain itself

[@168original7]

Privacy/le open stuff people are jokers. When push comes to shove it is just freeloading. Services cost money and ads and other ways helps level the cost out and doesn't effect the end user all that much.

[@rapazlatino-americano9421]

Nah, I have donated in the past to them and a bunch of other projects. Maybe they aren't aligned with the enthusiasts anymore.

[@sanjay_swain]

@@rapazlatino-americano9421 You have donated but how much of others loud guys have donated? Where are the numbers. Have you donated millions of dollars? If you have not donated millions then it is pretty stupid to ask for things while doing bare minimum... That is the very meaning of donation. You donate because you like something. Mozilla have not given you any contract. Making a browser is a business not a hobby. It is impossible to be a hobby due to very nature of web standard. It is impossible to find ANYONE on the internet who are going to work on a web browser for free. Good luck shifting through millions or billions of lines of texts of current and old or ancient web standards you need to support for free.

[@priyanshusharma1812]

Believe me, mozilla makes more than enough money from Google, they just use it for the higher ups salaries and political agendas

[@Akumetsubg]

Remind me again how much their CEO is getting paid and what have they achieved to earn that pay?

[@tedcalouri2694]

Does Mozilla have the rights to Netscape? I would LOVE a Navigator skinned Firefox complete with the ship wheel with the stars at night.

[@dastankuspaev9217]

Is audio sync off?

[@DanteMishima]

And that's why I use a hardened Firefox

[@Abedabedab3d]

I dont know why I need to watch your videos until the end even If Im not hooked. Love to support good creators like you

[@MattWillPrior]

What about a situation where Proton bought Firefox or at least partnered. Would be cool to see what that could result into. I know on the Proton suggestions forum there is demand for a browser. I think also, we have the age of rethinking a browser atm with Arc and a few other new names out there. And although open source is great, the fancy and shiny thing will always have an advantage over the majority public.

[@Dew4lk]

Tbh we need a new Firefox alternative

[@realsleepi]

i would totally pay for mozilla drive/cloud photo service

[@zoinked1351]

I miss lockwise

[@invincible_paradox]

Take a deep breath. Ladybird is comming 😇

[@adambickford8720]

Its quality was dropping off before explicit enshittification. Yikes.