Is Lumix S5ii AF Still AMAZING Using EF Lenses?

[@JoshCameron]

What did you guys think of the results? I was shocked!

[@minutesback]

So happy! BTW which version of the adapter as I see 2 prices online, 1 for a EFsigma version and 1 for a EF, it's confusing as the EF is almost double the price?

[@noahusescameras]

Do a video testing l Mount sigma lenses

[@angeloplayforone]

Great video showing that moving from Canon to Panasonic is a viable option and workable.

[@johnnymauser7577]

@@minutesback one is for ef mount the other for sa mount.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

For me, focus on my S1R is better with all the Canon lenses I have tried for two reasons: 1... It doesn't drop out of live view, ever. 2... I don't like PIP, but focus peaking is excellent. My lenses are TS-E 17, TS-E 24 II. I've yet to try my MP-E 65.

[@NorVack]

This is EXACTLY the video I was looking for! I did not want to spend much on more lenses to try this camera out. Thank you!

[@PlunderRoad]

When some newer lenses from Canon and Sony are $2000 + this is a great option. Has anyone hear tried the EF 70-200 2.8 Mark iii with Lumix full frame? Thanks!

[@chadstarbucks5719]

OMG! I m shocked. Can’t believe you could get such good performance using an adaptor. Really useful video Josh!

[@JoshCameron]

It's crazy right?! So good for adapted glass, and on a Lumix! Crazy times we're living in ;D Thanks Chad :)

[@4rezolution]

Wish there was a better adapter for EF to Sony E 😢

[@TerenceKearns]

​@@4rezolutionPanasonic actually collaborated with sigma to optimise the adapter and it shows. Sell your Sony and get a Panasonic. Great company. They unlock everything that the hardware can do. They just have the most abundance mindset compared to all the others.

[@AbdonPhirathon]

Thanks for making all of this S5II content. Every time a new video comes out it feels like Christmas all over again!

[@GonzTheRealtorGA]

Looks like the S5II has unlocked another world of lenses 🎉 Super exciting! That Canon L glass has a great look too!

[@SteveMayedaTV]

Man…you’re answering all the questions I have! As always great vids. Thank you

[@JoshCameron]

Cheers Steve, glad the vids are helpful :)

[@SteveMayedaTV]

@@JoshCameron any chance with sigma art EF mount?

[@qvarfoto]

THIS is what we've all been waiting for! Kudos for making this video mate, brilliant. I would've loved to see you include the 70-200 as well, as it's often used shooting events and such. If you have access to one I'd love to see a follow up? If not, this was great too. Cheers!

[@IslandFilmMaker]

Great review Josh! It's a whole new world for Panasonic as they finally move to Phase Detect AF as well as DFD! This game changer not only allows Panasonic to compete with Nikon, Canon, & Sony, but move beyond these other manufacturers in the Hybrid market at both the MFT & FF levels. I believe Panasonic will become a major player within the next 3 years. Can't wait to see what's next! Way to go Panasonic!!

[@MohamedAnouar7]

Man you are the reason I am getting this camera! Panasonic should really give you a commission for all the people you’re helping deciding😂 subscribed!!

[@JoshCameron]

Thanks dude! Appreciate this!

[@formatthitech]

Great results there Josh! With the EF mount having so many lenses this is a great showcase. 😍

[@JoshCameron]

Thank you! Amazing results right?!

[@formatthitech]

@@JoshCameron Pretty incredible! Definitely makes it more accessible.

[@jw_film]

An excellent video Josh. I've got quite a few EF lenses and have been using them with the S5, so now, completely sold on the S5 II.

[@ZiggyRockett]

Mind blowing! Thanks for doing this one bro excited for the stills version! Crazy results

[@JoshCameron]

Stills version will be coming soon! Very impressed with the results :)

[@michaelreaves6212]

This is the video I've been hoping to find! Thank you for this, just subscribed to your channel, and you have helped Panasonic make a sale :)

[@JoshCameron]

Wahey thanks dude! Appreciate it :)

[@jtchalatsis]

Since I decided to get the Lumix s5ii at the end of the year I've been binging your videos harder than Stranger Things. Keep them coming!

[@JoshCameron]

HAHAHA love this comment! Thanks dude! Have you got your S5ii yet?

[@jtchalatsis]

@@JoshCameron It's not available in Greece yet but looking to pick it up ASAP! Super happy to know EF lenses will work with AF! Would love to maybe also see a V-Log grading tutorial from you as the colors on your videos always look phenomenal, especially loved the footage on the 7artisans cine lens review!

[@jayforcinema]

This is amazing! Thanks Josh! The L mount system is fairly expensive when buying everything new, having this option makes it so much easier and better to work with my EF kit, along with chosen L mount lenses! This itself makes the S5 II worth the upgrade, although I do intend to hold on for the S5IIX

[@JoshCameron]

The S5iix is gonna be killer, can't wait for that one!

[@jayforcinema]

@@JoshCameron By the way, just in case you manage to get your hands on a Fotodiox (Vizelex) EF-L adapter with variable ND, would love to hear your experience :)

[@followtheboat]

Exactly the video I've been looking for. I use the Sigma EF adapter for my Sony A7R, adapted for infrared photography, and even on an IR camera, where AF can get confused, I was impressed. On my regular A7C the AF using the Sigma adapter is flawless. Now I'm looking to upgrade my GH5 for video, have been looking at the S5ii, and was wondering about getting this adapter for a couple of EF lenses I own. The only complaint is the focus breathing, which you don't get with the native Lumix L lenses, but if you already own some decent EF glass, this is a no-brainer. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.

[@DocBoA]

The cost of L Mount lenses is prohibitive to many creators. This af performance a game changer. Top Notch Content Upload Josh

[@patlealfilm]

Thanks for this video homie... sold my s1h a week ago... just copped a lumix s5iix for the AF since I still have a bunch of old EF glass!

[@VespertiliKildem]

WAIT A SECOND my friend. Are you telling me it DOES exist a Canon-Lumix adapter that's not produced in China-Nicaragua but it's actually good? Holy meloni. I'm sold. I've been checking the Lumix news for about 3-4 months, waiting for an autofocus update, and when they announced a whole new cmaera I was definitely going to buy it, but owning already 4 full frame canon lenses I still was a bit hesitant. Now I'm sure. I'm going to get the s5X when it comes out in May. (the adapter was hella hard to find, I even thought It didn't exist at all). Your video is the best news on January 2023 ahah

[@sergiypervun]

Thank you, Josh! That's exactly the video I needed. And in case you'll find it reasonable for you to make the same video but with Sigma L-mount glasses it would be perfect ;) Here is the list: Sigma 14-24 2.8 or Sigma 16-28 2.8 Sigma 24-70 2.8 or Sigma 28-70 2.8 Sigma 100-400 5-6.3 Sigma 14 1.8 Sigma 20 1.4 Sigma 35 1.4 Sigma 50 1.4 Sigma 85 1.4

[@iamhassan9943]

If those EF lenses work as well as they do, then Sigma L Mount lenses should work just as well or even better since they are first party lenses.

[@sergiypervun]

​@@iamhassan9943 Yes, it makes sense but it's only an assumption and I want to be 100% before buying 2-3 Sigma lenses.

[@XploringPlacesFilms]

I use Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 on my S5IIX and I can say that the autofocus works perfectly.

[@vaskes123]

Very needed review, gets many of us Canon users closer to buy the s5ii ! Thanks.

[@siku18253]

Seeing the canons focusing really makes me appreciate how little focus breathing most l mount lenses have. That 85mm just has so much focus breathing.

[@toofy7253]

Game changing. I have that adapter and can't wait to start buying some more AFFORDABLE used EF glass. Increases the variety too!

[@dvdaltizer]

as a c70 shooter with a bunch of EF glass, this makes the S5ii such a wonderful b cam to the C70!

[@JoshCameron]

Great shout! Only thing to bear in mind is the focus breathing, but I'm sure this varies between each lens and is either better/worse with certain configurations :)

[@Lifetogo]

Would be amazing how the stabilisation is working in video / while vlogging etc But so far, thanks for the work and the nice video 🙏

[@Spencer_White]

Awesome, looking forward to the stills testing 😊👍

[@JohnM605]

Damn. I think you just shook the earth. The S5II is turning out to be a real performer.

[@marin_real_estate_photography]

Thanks for the test. Josh. Very impressive. I do just want to mention from watching you rack focus with these Canon EF lenses, how well Panasonic lenses handle focus breathing in comparison. Obviously, these Canon lenses were designed for stills, not video, so I am not roasting Canon lenses so much as I am praising how good Panasonic lenses are for video shooters. Either way, the new PDAF is a win-win for video shooters.

[@JoshCameron]

Yeah I also noticed that - but you're totally right... most canon EF lenses weren't designed for video. The Lumix S Series lenses are actually designed so well for video and this new AF system really makes them shine :)

[@heznadastudios]

Thank you Josh. Real life scenarios, way to do it. Now I can now make the switch

[@charliethc]

I hope this is working equally good on S5. My adapter is coming today, can’t wait to test it. Thanks for the video

[@altinmanuka3538]

How does it looks?

[@charliethc]

@@altinmanuka3538 I ended up buying more Lumix lenses and I don’t use the adapter

[@herrreinsch]

this might seriously be the best solution for good AF on a Budget.

[@tedsouart2085]

It looks great ! Thank you for the video. I'm definitely moving back to panasonic from sony !

[@RidgewayInMedia]

Solid review with information and comparisons that are relevant to those of us using video in the "real world". Plus, why don't you have more subs? Keep going.

[@RidgewayInMedia]

I'm coming at this video 11 months after publication because I've just ordered my first S5M2X, after finally deciding to jump from my trusted Lumix MFT system. Plus I have access to a stable of EF glass from Canon, Sigma, Samyang et al.

[@lumalt]

Great video man, I was just looking for this combination! thanks a lot!

[@JoshCameron]

Glad this was helpful!

[@TONYSLAY254]

Great video mate, could you please share a link to the exact adapter that you're using because I am coming across different adapters and I don't know which one works best. Thank you

[@Roykingdreperdeg]

Its in the description of his equipment: …Sigma MC-21 Adapter.

[@j.zuberi]

Perfect! Thanks! Helps me save a ton of money in not getting native lenses.

[@pureheartvisuals]

Josh good stuff. Man, I really wish you would have included the 70-200 2.8 or the 24-105 4.0 I have been searching KZbin to see the results of adapting EF Canon L Glass

[@mikehannon3536]

I tested the 24-105 and it seems to work fine. At this stage I would guess that all EF lenses with AF will work fine, its just that some are noisier than others

[@loudmotion5639]

Man, I think you got a great POINT! We are going to have a sea of CANON users flocking to the S system o.O one of the reasons, most people (outside of youtube) dont change system every month because they are already highly invested into some form of glass specific to a brand and the canon have been overheating like crazy lol.

[@andrewlabreck1569]

Would love to see you revisit sigmas L mount glass auto focus capabilities. Particularly the 16-28 2.8! Hoping it fares much better as it is an ideal content creation setup if the focus works well.

[@giddyeffects]

6:40-6:42 the light slowly fades away 😁 🔋🔌 anyway, great video and excellent AF response for EF glass, which is readily available for me locally unlike L-mount glass, which I have to import. The S5mII is a beast and I'm really excited about the panasonic Lumix and L-mount system. I have the S5. It's an amazing camera despite it's DFD AF, which has been ok for me btw. For anything fast-paced I which to manual and 🙏 I haven't fully used the S5 to it's max capability and to my max capability, so not looking to upgrade for now. But upgrade I will, one-day and glad to know there's a better camera to upgrade to 🤗

[@digital.mente.]

Interesting. it'd be great to see how the AF works in lower light situations. If you could get you hands on a Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 and check it in 4k 50p that could be a dream combo

[@TheEtchels]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXK0Ya2wgLWnjqs

[@raksh9]

Tests by a German channel who's name escapes me suggest that the Sigma 18-35 has excellent continuous AF on the S5 II.

[@spaceghostcqc2137]

ISn't 18-35 an ef-s lens?

[@raksh9]

@@spaceghostcqc2137 It is an aps-c lens with an EF mount.

[@spaceghostcqc2137]

@@raksh9 ah thank you, I was wondering

[@mack_solo]

Talk about hybrid setup - one of the most useful comparison tests for the do-it-all camera options. Thank you.

[@Eric.mov_]

This was great. THE video I was looking for regarding AF performance with EF to L mount. This performance is the factor that will make me decide whether or not to get an S5II. My ONLY gripe is I wish you did some tests with movement. The camera was stationary for all the shots and would like to see it in an environment where both subject and camera are moving. Great video regardless very nice to see how it performed.

[@JoshCameron]

Thanks Eric! I would have loved to do another few tests to be honest, but I didn't want the video to get too long in the tooth!

[@positivityfilms]

@@JoshCameron Make it longer in the tooth! Can you try the different frame rates available in the camera with EF glass. Also, can the MC21 accommodate EF-S lenses?

[@jefgibbons]

@@positivityfilms it does! That blew me away... it puts the camera in APS-C mode however... crops in. But still usable!

[@papafrita96]

This is incredible and is swaying me to switch to Panasonic rather than to Canon mirrorless! My EF lenses may have found their new home. I'm very impressed with the continuous autofocus. Does this mean that for photography the single AF is as impressive? I do 90% photo 10% video and I'd love to continue using my EF lenses for day to day photography before I invest in L mount lenses.

[@Nordbiene]

So great and interesting. Thank You so much. Best regards, hoping that I also can soon work with this camera. 😝

[@JoshCameron]

They're shipping in the UK now, so hopefully not too much longer to wait!

[@Nordbiene]

@@JoshCameron 🥰🥰🥰

[@aujax1]

damn. this sweetens the deal so much. the s5ii just makes sooo much sense as a practical run and gun camera. insane ibis AND great af with ef lenses, 10-bit internal. whats not to love?

[@OliKember]

Exactly what I wanted to know, thanks so much!

[@werem369]

Many thanks for this test. this is something useful for canon glass owners

[@RyanH0809]

This is obviously great news and very important to pros who have full frame, expensive Canon glass, but I think this is fantastic news for the fact that you can use Sigma's 18-35 f/1.8 which was sold in boat loads for Canon users in the 60d - 80d era.

[@k1k13004]

Good job Josh, Good job Pana.

[@AlSuChess]

Hey Josh! This is a great video as always, very informative and gave me an idea of using canon lenses. Question: will using the sigma mc-21 work similarly on the Lumix S5 as it does on the S5 II? Also, I remember fitting a Nikon 24-70 f2.8 on a GH5 with a metabones adapter and noticed that the Nikon lens gave me more vibrant colors, crisp and contrasty. I worked with the S5 as well as the GH5 for some time and find the color somewhat flat at times, even though I am shooting in v-log. On the S5 I mostly use the Lumix 35mm f1.8. I wonder if using some of the Canon lenses can give me more vibrant and true colors. I also thought about investing into Atomos Ninja V to be able to shoot in 12-bit Prores raw, but I am not sure if it will give me more vibrant and true colors. In other words, can we get the Lumix S5 to shoot like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqmqaamErNONoJI kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIKsZ2Ssjd15jqs kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2S1l5-Ql9SWa6M Or do you think this is largely in part to choosing proper light conditions, knowing what you are doing and great post production color correction? Thanks in advance for your reply. I consider you somewhat an expert on the Lumix S5 camera.

[@dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567]

what about native lens such as sigma L vs sigma ef lens with adaptor. we want to see the image quality.

[@bigshooter461]

WOW! This was something I never considered. I have been looking at Sony for a while because with an adapter I could easily slip it into my Canon Quiver, the cost of the cameras that peek my interest has given pause to that move though, this news has me really doubling down on my interest in this camera, I said before this will likely be for Panasonic what the 7D was for Canon. I can see the LUMIX S5II making big waves in the market this year, the footage I am seeing from small Indy run and gun creators with this camera is really fantastic. Having a bag full of glass that I can adapt makes this an even more attractive option than Sony was over Canon's RF line up.

[@AltCine]

This is extremely impressive

[@shaanbilla3944]

As always very helpful content, It's nice to use EF glass, we can buy sone used ones for less. Thanks Josh✋

[@TheAtaja]

Panasonic has great experience with adopting other mfg. lenses. Their MFT system was a testing ground for this. It makes a decision to switch to Panasonic Lumix a little easier if you are invested in Canon or other glass.

[@jinwang4905]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS SUPER AWESOME REVIEW and TESTS!!!!!! THANK YOU BRO!!!!!!

[@matadormartin]

Cheers Josh. I currently have a bunch of EF lenses, an EF-L mount adapter but no L mount camera (it was stolen). It's really good to know that should I go back to Panasonic and buy an S5iiX in the future I can do that and maintain some AF goods!

[@rw3452]

That bit about 1.4! 😇 Indeedy!

[@sacredxgeometry]

Effing incredible. Seriously!

[@lee_pfalmer]

This is great news! Thanks for the video.

[@DescubriendoCanada]

Great video! Can I used with rf lents?

[@TrenchfootSalvador]

Does S&Q mode work with autofocus with this adapter? My tokina 11-16 dont work in s&q..

[@oneeyedphotographer]

I hope this is the bench that's been marked for the future S1 cameras. And G series.

[@Robert.hodgson]

Great review! Thanks!

[@aujax1]

but how is the tracking continuous af?? say, with a shot where your talent is moving a lot

[@socc3r7k1ng]

Just note, these adapters are optimized for Sigma's newer EF glass and you will get much better results with Sigma native lenses such as the Art series. Other lenses will work but those Sigma lenses are optimized.

[@007silverwings]

I watched a recorded Panasonic Livestream recently when Sean went through every single menu settings. He described a Micro AF adjustment setting, (which can be lens specific) so maybe this could be worth tweaking for the 16-35 when wide open and tracking the eyes. If the error in focusing on the nose, rather than the eye, is repeating every time it could be worth a tweaking test 👍🏻

[@paklingkoo8502]

Very good tests. Almost bought the wrong MC21 for sigma lenses. Should buy the one for EF lenses having different firmware.

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

Great and interesting test. The first one and the last one show focus breathing which is a lot distracting. We see clearly the difference with the q Lulix lenses which are designed for video !

[@JoshCameron]

Yeah I agree, the Lumix lenses are far better in this regard!

[@PaulPhillipsFix]

You should keep this a secret... I'm not done getting my EF Lenses. Paul @www.youtube.com/@PaulPhillipsFix & www.youtube.com/@ArtFancyImaging

[@PatoCrioyo]

Not sure if there's something about your ears that confuses the focusing system, but in the first test the 16-35mm was kinda off, focusing closer to your ears while the 24-70mm was consistently focusing on them. The 35mm did more so in the latter half when it actually grabbed something. The 85mm was pretty spot on, though!

[@JoshCameron]

The 85mm surprised me the most actually!

[@minutesback]

Super! Would have loved to see the nifty 50 since it's such a popular lens.

[@JoshCameron]

That would be a good one to test - aren't those lenses as cheap as £100? I remember back in the day looking at it!

[@flaviopresutti]

Great test man! I'm using an adaptor for my S5 that got a little bit loose in a few months Of use, I've lose some shots for that... I want to buy the 35mm and 85mm S. The mc-21 seems to work really well. Thanks for share!!

[@jefgibbons]

Great video Josh! Having a tough time deciding if it's worth getting the 24-105 Lumix... I have the 24-105 Canon and the Sigma adapter on my S52 and it works pretty well, just not as fast at photo AF as my old 5DMK3... Seems to be more than good enough for video (my primary use). Do you think it's actually worth picking up the Lumix 24-105? I do like the closer focus abilities as well... Just want to make sure it's going to have the immediacy I get on the old 5DMK3. Thanks for your great vids!

[@william_tlh]

Hi Josh, have you ever tried the Viltrox EF-L Pro adapter? Curious about the performance 🤔

[@josueclermont8070]

Awesome. Please do a test with some Sigma EF lenses.

[@rw3452]

I'm back after buying the Lumix S5 iix with the MC-21. But I wanted to say I'd like this video twice for that bob's your uncle joke if it were possible 😂. The world can be a little cold so a little humour is just the ticket!

[@JoshCameron]

I appreciate this! Thank you for coming back and watching again! :)

[@bncprado]

it shows in 3:29 the reason I sold my canon 85 1.4...the chromatic ab. is horrible with this lens. You can see it clearly in the video

[@naizajn]

Thanks for this, man!

[@bernardoramos1412]

Very good results !!!

[@alanabley525]

Thank you for this, I have Canon EF lenses I'm currently using on a Sony body and get no video auto focus. At 1st I thought I found what I've been looking for, I need 60 fps and ultra wide angle for real estate and the 1.5 crop is a killer. Doesn't seem to be fast UWA lenses on offer for this camera.

[@chriss2295]

I remember when I was adapting EF to Sony E mount. Hit or miss. I hope Panny gets Tamron and Tokina onboard with L mount. Also looking forward to the S1 getting functional AF.

[@boatmanbermuda7255]

good work, you just got a new subscriber kid sir.

[@STONJAUS_FILMS]

Did i miss the name of the adaptor?, i'm in the market for an EF to L adaptor but having problem finding one with decent autofocus. there is a viltrox, there is KNF and SIGMA hmmm cant find comparisons, wonder which one is yours

[@brainmt]

This is awesome! Thanks for doing this. It's a bummer that the canon glass has such terrible focus breathing.

[@AdrianCamo95]

Great video and conclusion. Looking forward to the stills test. How would you compare the performance to lumix glass?

[@anarmusayev8151]

İs continues autofocus work in real situations? Such as event places when more different lights and more human faces?

[@avarmadillo]

Good, if not exhaustive, tests, Josh. Lots of focus breathing in those old EF lenses. (Maybe better on the Sony A74). I'd like to see some Tamron, Tokina, and Sigma L mount and any other 3rd party lens tests. You should really do a PAID tutorial on the S5II---take Caleb Pike's many tutorials as a model, so you don't have to waste time. reinventing the wheel. Do it! I'd buy it.

[@iamhassan9943]

Focus breathing is focus breathing. It is the lens not the camera that matters. Sigma is not third party to L Mount. They are a first party lens.

[@derJackistweg]

Fokus breathing is just very strong on the 2470f28.

[@TK421-53]

I have a ton of EF L lenses, I was undecided between a new Canon RF mount body (R6/6m2), Sony 7a3/4 or Nikon z6/7/6II Was undecided, because I also have Nikon AF-S G lenses (and Nikon manual focus lenses). I want to keep using my lenses - I know that the Nikon adaptor on the Z mount does not have an AF motor for AFD lenses, but does control the aperture. Now the Panasonic has really changed the landscape with a very competitively prices FF, with great specs. If it can also deal with Nikon lenses (at least G) and offer good MF support it is going to difficult to ignore.

[@Mo2008di]

Can you please do a follow up video after the latest big firmware? Thanks in advance

[@DigitalDawg]

Wish you could have tried some old Nikon glass

[@kreafoxstudio]

hi Josh i have s5 and mc21 adapter. I have a problem with Tamron lenses. I understand that the adapter is for Sigma lenses and has the right not to work properly with the Tamron, but strangely, it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't work, it's a total lottery, sometimes it doesn't detect the aperture value and the camera freezes, and sometimes it works great. Lenses are tamron 35mm f1.4 and 70-200 f4. Maybe you have some experience why this is happening. Sigma and Tamron service will not help in this topic

[@TuinleiBob]

If I am not wrong the original S5 has no continuous autofocus with this adapter, so they fixed 2 problems at once? Don't know about the S1 and S1H.

[@randomoneforstuff3696]

My question is whether or not the original S5 will get AF-C with the EF adapter like the S5ii. Surely it's not a hardware limitation? ... so they could presumably release that functionality in a software update. The autofocus looks amazing on the mk2, but I'm going to wait until it is on sale in 1-2 years to upgrade.

[@kennysenpaii]

Amazing tests. Does the lens stabilisation still work well? or are the native lenses way better at that?

[@JoshCameron]

If the lens has I.S then yes it should still work - and you of course still get the great IBIS :)

[@andytrace]

super useful, thank you :D

[@lumixS5M2]

Again thanks for this video. I also buy the adapter with the S5ii it seem not fully work in photo mode but seem work in video mode. It seem work with the Sigma 50-100 ART (the heavy one)

[@MicroFourNerds]

Jheeze, Josh. Bad hair day! 😆

[@MicroFourNerds]

(You never have a bad hair day!)

[@JoshCameron]

@@MicroFourNerds Every day has been a bad hair day since I turned 20 hahahahaa

[@DamianBrown]

At least you lot have hair 🤣

[@patterdalezipsuzilil]

Cool video m8 I have pumped 1000nd into lumix g9 and 4 lenses but it'd micro four thirds I am getting a s5 new because I do astro t2 photography need full frame