Is Luocha Better Than Bailu and Natasha? | Honkai Star Rail

[@VarsII]

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[@misamisa5145]

there are 2 main appeals to Luocha: 1. His absurd effect resistance which means those annoying minibosses like ice out of space and aurumatons can't stop him from healing. If bailu gets hit with the freeze/imprison it's over. 2. AoE dispel on ult which clears waves of mara-struck units by taking out their revive ability.

[@GamingGhostx]

3. aoe healing with his trace unlock when ally attacks

[@juliogomez2534]

There will be other 4* healers, there will be more 5* healers, MC will get a healing path, but as it stands his aoe dispel is his only strong point, that's surely something we can't count on going forward, though there's also the fact that currently the only mayor enemy buff that gives some trouble is the revive ability of the world 3 mobs (which isn't guarantee to be a thing in future storylines) so going forward that would make him a really situational pick. He is in a rather odd spot is my point, he seems useful now sure, but he also seems like the type to be powercreep and left behind the most out of the current (and near future if we count Baldie, Kafka and Fu-Xuan) limited units.

[@unknownmothergoose7909]

@@juliogomez2534 he will be the healer of choice for whales though. Shields, Attack buff, even a fucking all dmg-debuff on enemies on his Eidolons are ridiculous

[@juliogomez2534]

@@unknownmothergoose7909 Yes and no. You need to remember that for whales is not about what the unit does, but rather ownership of the unit. Rather for whales is will be even more situational if not even less essential once a new healer gets release, imagine what is role gonna be if we get a healer that doubles up as a buffer? That's what I mean with him being easily powercreep, it will bot be by numbers, but rather by utility.

[@vungocanh3712]

​@@juliogomez2534 there will be better seele, better JY, better SW so this is a dumb argument. Better go for the one you like and the one help you clear everything in the present or the near future

[@absol13]

Don't have Bailu or Gepard so I made the educated choice of rolling for this gentleman. Now my second team will definitely survive memory of chaos with my new Himeko. ...wait...

[@Mr3w]

Yeah me too :( no 2nd healer or shielder 100% going for him :)

[@DoqCA]

I unfortunately also rolled fkn Himeko before him😃

[@naw613]

@@DoqCAluckily himeko works really well with him! Her follow up attacks now heal the team 👍

[@what-you-want-of-me-yt]

Sad plot twist

[@nurusds3]

Luocha red hair let's go!

[@acee.5517]

Luocha's full potential has not yet much appreciated since Destruction DPS are still on the way, by that time, people start realizing how much healing without skill point is significant. It really just depend which path you are choosing.

[@therranolleo468]

luckily 3 very powerful destruction characters are upcoming in Dan Heng, Blade, and Jing Liu

[@yoanc7222]

@@therranolleo468 i m lowkey waiting for Xueyi

[@chadikhr7258]

also the planar set taylor made for luocha that will make uboost ur whole team with 10 crit dmg and we don't have a confirmation if it's stackable or not if it was then holly fuck

[@cygnus__]

he's already insanely good with clara tbh

[@eggsans69]

Jingliu is obviously hunt tho

[@BladeVoltz]

Calling Luocha a side grade to Nat and bailu is crazy when he can heal triple the amount that both of them can

[@maldymilkyboi4991]

Bailu can mitigate damage and increase max health

[@BladeVoltz]

@@maldymilkyboi4991 and that literally doesn’t matter and isn’t relevant in current content, nor does it make Bailu any better than even Natasha lmao

[@maldymilkyboi4991]

@@BladeVoltz maybe not right now, but she will pair nicely with jingliu. Also, other than cleanse, bailu is 100% better than nat. Better stats, higher heal value, heal on hit is better than heal per turn

[@BladeVoltz]

@@maldymilkyboi4991 nah luocha is 100% the better pairing for Jingliu, there’s no reason to run Bailu with her at all especially with how random her healing is on her skill. If your pulling any of the next 3 destruction characters, luocha is going to be a must have for any of them

[@heilamwether8911]

@@BladeVoltztbf tho, Bailu does give u more screwups due to the revive mechanic, so she does have that, which isn’t too helpful rn in the current meta, put probably will be when we get past the loufu.

[@wilsonfisher5011]

One thing to mention or if I missed it to remind, Luocha gains energy on his emergency heal so the energy problems don’t feel as bad as they seem.

[@mei-san5699]

Just got Luocha and from my personal experience, he’s very convenient, especially in the SU. He’s like a walking abundance path. Plus he’s husbando, what reason NOT to pull? Unless youre a waifu guy but shhh

[@acardoza1234]

He looks cool! I already have two built healers tho, so I'll be passing on him for now. Maybe I'll pick him up on a rerun!

[@Indian_gae_boii]

Because, otto 💀

[@rofl_waffl]

Everybody can play the game the way they want to and I respect their decision(not that they need my respect anyways to do as they please), but I think it's kinda weird to only pull for male/female characters haha

[@alliu6562]

I’m a husbando guy so he’s a must-pull 😳 (also I need a 2nd sustain unit)

[@raidoukuzunoha760]

Yeah luocha is like pseudo yaoshi aeon in SU.picking abundance card that buff such increase def, Spd when healing so yeah feel like Harmony Character too.

[@michaelman90]

"He's exclusively single target healing." His trace causes the heal proc from his field to also heal the entire team...

[@HidraK]

I already have bailu and gepard, and im going to have Loucha soon! Love his design and his VA. Pull for the characters that you like, its an important part of the game too!

[@barbaradesigns1774]

soon I heard the JP VA I was sure that I need to get Luocha for myself. Already have Gepard, no Bailu, but still want a second healer anyway. Thankfully, I'm guaranted, since Bronya decided to come together with Seele.

[@Mr3w]

Thats actually a good mindest :) instead of "META" this Meta that !

[@kathycoleman4648]

Yes. Thinking about what will help your team is good. But playing characters you love will keep you logging in, and that's totally key.

[@Gration_]

"He's more of a side grade to Natasha and Bailu" I'd say he's a direct upgrade to Nat, not particularly Bailu, considering her ENTIRE claim to fame is her cleanse. That's all another healer needed to just throw her out the window, and he does it automatically when a unit is about to die. Lacking a healing ult would be his biggest con, but with the field pretty much every team should be way healthier on average than any team that ran Nat.

[@danidan2174]

hes good for units that can act more than once per turn basically doubles his healing

[@leviosa216]

the beautiful thing about hsr is, that he cant completly replace natasha since they arent the same type. Against certain enemies you might need a few of natashas autoattacks to help break their shield.

[@lewsee5562]

@@leviosa216 Natasha's shield break efficiency is so poor that it's not even worth considering.

[@Gration_]

@@leviosa216 There's Clara and Shushang for Physical break. Why you'd ever take Nat into a fight over him with either of these units on your account for BREAK of all things is wild when she doesn't even have an attacking ult. On top of that, Kafka (The boss in SU and MoC ATM) is weak to both Physical and IMG. Nat isn't breaking faster than he is in that fight. This feels like trying to rationalize investing in Nat when her direct upgrade is here.

[@PossessedbyPhoenix]

@@lewsee5562 Typing is still important because of Silverwolf, to reduce the number of different types on the team. I'm even running baseball bat protag again because of this.

[@dragonkus6934]

No offense... but Luocha is a WAY WAY better healer than Natash or Bailu... not sure what your build was but soon or later you'll figure out.

[@loola8908]

Luocha kind overheals ngl...his field quite literally causes all my team to have full health while it's still ongoing

[@dragonkus6934]

@loola8908 yep many reviews out on youtube can clearly see how OP he's heals are... yet people keep comparing Natash and Bailu to him jokes.. lol

[@danidan2174]

​​​@@dragonkus6934people think he cant use his E while he can just use it like any other healer out there and that makes his ER problem non-existent

[@simonditomasso9868]

It’s not even close how much better he is than natasha, at least for my clara it’s night and day. But the question of worth? To me he is, but to someone who has bailu or gepard idk

[@oscara8454]

​@@loola8908may be useful for a certain character that drains party hp.

[@ArchonKujo]

From what I'm seeing, Luocha seems to be a better healer, I don't really attend on getting him at all, but I think it's great that were getting more healers in the game, however I'm still saving for people like Blade and Kafka, however I do feel like Luocha well be best for difficult content!

[@rhysespieces.]

if you wanna try your luck, loucha would be a great teamate for blade. blades ultimate will make loucha activate his auto-skill heal, giving a practically free abyss flower.

[@heavenlykarisma]

​@@rhysespieces.I honestly don't know why ppl think they can main destruction characters and not pull for Luocha. They are going to struggle to keep their destruction units alive in Skill point negative teams. He is a must pull in terms of any destruction main

[@AgusSetiawan-mx1vq]

@@rhysespieces. howwver, i am more curious with March + Blade combo since his couter attack is active when he gets hit or attacking enemies and it heals him

[@kensha1643]

@@AgusSetiawan-mx1vqI thought he had to lose hp to build his talent stacks? So while March’s shield would draw agro to Blade, his talent wouldn’t activate cuz he isn’t taking damage (unless you have a weak shield lol)

[@eludeirkz7961]

@@AgusSetiawan-mx1vq he has to take hp damage to trigger stacks for his counter, Blade wants healers and no shielders at all, this is why Luocha is considered his best healing support, it also opens up for a more sp intensive harmony unit since both are very SP efficent

[@mxzephyr]

Luocha does have AoE healing though. One of his traces allows for one party member's attack to heal the entire team when his field is up (editing to say I’m not sure how well it functions in other teams, but with Clara it allows for her to heal up everybody with just a few counters)

[@jucepop]

i was about to comment the same thing! its rly most effective when your party consists of characters that can do follow-ups, counters, and do multiple turns. i had no problem keeping my team (using either seele or yanqing) at full hp consistently against the doomsday beast. its not natasha/bailu's big aoe burst heal that you can press in a panic moment but still reliable when played well.

[@fathurrachman9498]

you stuck with offensive team if you run luocha, if your team slow like turtle and doesn't have counter like march or clara there's no reason to run him. especially his trace is just aoe lifesteal buff. but still he will be good for destruction team and also blade with his big pp counter.

[@fraidei2094]

@@fathurrachman9498 every DPS needs speed. Only exceptions are DPS that deal damage outside of their turn like Clara, which would still be good with Luocha.

[@AvroraEverheart]

As someone who impulse pulled on him and isn’t into MOC, he is an incredibly comfy unit for general content where you can afk runs for stuff like trace mats and not have to babysit your run in case someone goes low hp, then again I use him with Gepard which turns my team into a literal brick wall that heals a ton.

[@fr3941]

Farming in general is comfy lol you don't need luocha to feel it

[@carlitosfrancisco7342]

Exactly what the upper comment says

[@AvroraEverheart]

@@fr3941 it’s just a little thing I liked since when I farm my tingyun is always at red (yes I’m aware that’s a thing you can avoid with other healers but lemme be lazy lol)

[@pally3370]

running gepard luocha in echos of war and im just able to turn on auto attacks for the bosses and do work in the background. life is good LOL

[@Fr00stee]

I think luocha will be super meta when the new destruction characters that drain their own and their team's HP come out, he's going to be the best healer for them. Plus if you whale for eidolons he becomes a role compressor

[@sageofsixpaths8392]

Luocha's healing outclasses both nat and bailu, you can check for yourselves

[@mismismism]

To me, so far, he's not a side grade, he's a massive upgrade. Bailu has the massive issue of no cleanse, she doesn't even have passive resistance so she can get shut down so easily and that will only get worse with more bosses with chain CC, stuff like dominate, not to mention he's also Pela 2.0 mixed in. I struggle to see a situation at this point in the game, where pulling him wouldn't just be a net positive because Natasha feela like she was only good because of the cleanse and Bailu is already arguably worse than her just by not having one, it can screw you over way too easily IMO.

[@Romashka_Sov]

7:20 Well, now Welt is not the only other Imaginary unit, because now we have Yukong in the same banner as Luocha, and game will give her for free in 1.2

[@JC-qi7ek]

Luocha doesn't struggle with AoE healing when accounts reach mid-game. His A4 passive trace heals a LOT, especially with characters that have follow-up attacks or turn manipulation (AoE heals the same as ST attacks, it's all about how many turns you hit an enemy and not how many enemies you hit, that includes any damaging ult you use during its duration), in one abyss flower cycle he probably heals my entire team by like 3000 without skill, albeit it's in small doses so it doesn't look as massive as it actually is. Only real issue is that he struggles with consecutive AoE burst damage since he doesn't have an on-demand panic heal like the other healers, but if it's only one big AoE hit his entire team can just heal up afterward by attacking after the enemy turn. ABYSS FLOWER is where a majority of his healing comes from, his skill and emergency heal are failsafes or cleansing bots, which makes him even more skill point positive than the other healers. That trace is massive, mine was doing ok but not incredible but the moment I got him level 50 and got that passive he could solo sustain one of my MoC teams which let me reach MoC 9 for the first time today. Didn't even level him up further I just got a few more defensive stats and ERR for more abyss flower uptime (Mine is usually down for 3 turns for the other units, so at minimum 8 turns with abyss flower healing then 3 turns down time). His heal is extremely comfy, lets you ignore small chip damage which can make a difference if a unit survives or not, and that's including his imaginary break, which is huge too since you ult every two rotations optimally because of his low energy cost. His A6 passive is going to be huge too, since the sustainer getting CC'ed at late game is a death sentence. Edit: I use Post-Op purely for the energy regen. The outgoing healing is useless because his ult doesn't heal, but his skill healing scales so high it can still recover 1500 health anyways (This thing's heals a base of 710 at level 8 wtf). My traces are at level 2 talent and level 4 skill, mine doesn't do any damage but he's level 50 so lmao. His atk is 1.6k and outgoing healing is 17.1%. Another thing that's great about him is his healing can be boosted by harmony supports like Asta talent or Bronya ult jic you need ever more for some reason (running him with at least one nihility + DPS is still the best tho, he should be able to sustain double DPS in the future if that somehow becomes meta). His speed is 123, though you should prob run him slower tbh because you can just use technique to start the fight anyways.

[@Arthur-oc5wz]

I just got him and he's already hard carrying me he's so good

[@Aeroreido]

There is a huge difference between someone keeping everyone full health and enemy's unbuffed (while needing 0 Skillpoints), and someone needing a tank + healer who both need to use up skill points and barely keeping people alive, luocha is unironicly the biggest upgrade you can give your account by far, even bigger then silverwolf, selee or Jing.

[@josueravena3464]

He's our first battle healer, so he'll be a big investment in a long run. Since he can be sustainable team while doing damage and we're close to have an all imaginary team along with Yukong. Since in this game all actions can make or break your battles. I would love to have him if possible

[@TaviiCatniss]

Did i miss something, or did he not bring up the AOE healing trace that makes him EXTREMELY powerful

[@easyr5303]

Honestly, I pulled because he's otto apocalypse in HI3 and that fascinated me, but he is very useful, he basically serves as a replacement for my Natasha AND Pela, he filled both roles in and now I have one more slot that idk what to do with

[@shyamakpal]

8:13 Post-op does not give any healing bonus to luocha as he has no heals attached to his ultimate, quid pro and shared feeling are probably better

[@Akantorz]

Problem with comparing with Genshin is that they have a right to be cautious about Kokomi. Healers aren't that great, so they need to do something else besides healing. Kokomi wasn't that great until bloom became a thing. Meanwhile we all need healers in HSR. Especially those of use that got Himeko as our free 5* and nothing else. I keep getting light cones from the standard banner when I use the free pulls, so I've been planning on getting Loucha for a while. Plus Yukong is on the same banner, so it's pretty easy for me. The real strange thing is, the more I hear about Blade and Characters after him, the less I care about Kafka. So we'll see how it plays out.

[@HRavenfolks]

Honestly, I found Blade's playstyle to be more appealing than Kafka, especially now that I have Luocha, I just can't miss him.

[@simonditomasso9868]

« Kokomi wasn’t that great before bloom », she is hydro, the most broken element, there is no such thing as a bad hydro unit (including before dendro) even Candace and Barbara are good

[@floofthedoof]

Funny how when I was warping for him, I got Bailu and then him. I already had E5 Nat so I guess I'm abundant in abundance now *ba dum tss*. That said, I really like his kit (that's why I pulled for him). Heal/Cleanse, Auto-heal, Debuff AOE... most people in the comments probably explained it better but yeah, I do recommend him especially if you don't have a shielder and an Imaginary character and you most likely use Destruction as main dps. And if you are a husbando collector :>

[@eula419]

Healing i think the only thing that seperates him from natasha and bailu is the no skill point healing, but in overall kit Luocha really shines because of his ult that removes the buff from the enemy.

[@eriponchi]

Hard stuck on MoC 5 for a while, and I just knew I really need another healer (don't have Gepard or Bailu). Earlier, after getting Luocha, I instantly progressed up to floor 7 with relative ease. Him scaling off of ATK benefits my playstyle as I can make use of Asta's stacking attack and speed buff. Having Seele and March to complete the team feels like cheating. Definitely a huge upgrade to my account, having that 2 preservation and abundance characters each.

[@rahulthapa108]

Okay I have to share it with someone. I pulled on his banner and got Gepard lost 50/50 was kinda sad but also happy as I do need his shield but then afer somehow managing to get more pulls not only did I pull him a little early i think between 60-70 pulls but got E1 of him in the same pull. I feel sooo lucky rn

[@AB-xe9nk]

Saying Bailu has better raw healing is just factually wrong. The maths have been done, Luocha’s per turn healing dwarfs Bailu’s even without cheesing more healing out of him with followups.

[@Jayk748]

Luocha is vital if you’re going to build a destruction hypercarry team in the future as they take their own/ally hp and also very skill point hungry. HuoHuo another leaked healer and she’s going to be vital for hunt hypercarry teams. She’s not close to as being as versatile as Luocha, but she provides atk/crit buffs along with heals.

[@thisiztheewae]

Thanks for sharing this leak. Gonna wait for her now instead of pulling Luocha.

[@user-ux4gu2lh8c]

​@@thisiztheewaeshe's a 4 star so probably not gonna be quite as powerful

[@existence5964]

​@@user-ux4gu2lh8cHuoHuo is a 5 star, Lynx is the 4 star healer

[@kaedz3055]

Something that I love is that when Luocha's field is active, follow up attacks AND ultimates still regain the character's HP = everyone else's HP. If you need your immediate healing, do your burst and tada! You're healed along with every other character in your team! IT'S INSANE!!

[@deskandachair5378]

He will shine when blade comes out

[@kibathefang6022]

The thing is, you can get Luocha now, while if you don't have Bailu, you're gonna have to wait for that low chance to get her

[@AladiahV97]

For me personally I whaled a bit (with money I saved specifically for him). He is an Otto expy which is one my favourite characters, a healer that scales off of atk sounds interesting, cleanse AND dispell sounds pretty much like role compression which is always nice, and his style of offensive healing makes me think that a team of lvl 80 characters could be composed by 2 damage dealers, a support and himself, making it quite nice. That and he can have some nice sinergy with March who is just too cute to ignore. Got him at E1 (I was near pity and wanted more 4* Eidolons) and got 2 Qingque (E6, my beloved gremlin), 1 Pela, 2 Yukong, some LC and also his signature. Oh and mono IMG sounds really fun too, so I also pulled for that.

[@sanjeethmahendrakar]

Lol did a 10 pull on his banner just to test my luck and got Bailu instead. So now i have two healer for MoC and guaranteed for the next banner i pull on. Lucky all things considered.

[@dylanmorales450]

I pulled for him and got 2 of him both at early pities. So safe to say, I am beyond happy

[@rulersreachf4n223]

With the addition of the new 4* imaginary character this opens the opportunity for a team similar to Sele silver tingyun Baulu but just switching out lighting for imaginary

[@TinyyTato]

Even though I have Bailu I'm still pulling for him. (Don't get me wrong she's a great healer. Personal preference not the biggest fan using child characters).

[@xenoemblem7]

Understandable, have a nice day.

[@shanecoffing]

I have gepard and c6 natasha(im not a whale i barely spent just got lucky)after looking at him it honestly seems like it depends on the team. He will be able to do considerable damage compared to other supports as he scales AD which is huge. However he is going to be alot squisher than other supports (bailu/natasha health tanks and gepard defense). He will fit on some teams but not others. Will be interesting.

[@hms.fortune5829]

As someone who has a gepard and a bailu, I just don’t need him, simple as that, I do belong he may be better than those characters in certain aspects, however I am trying to make a mono quantum team and that is way more important

[@themidnightotaku22]

Luocha combat-wise is an excellent healer. Luocha character-wise is pretty solid to even if being mysterious held him back in any capacity. I’m glad I managed to pull him by accident cause having more abundance characters is a small necessity we all probably share.

[@melrick5614]

People say he doesnt have an emergency button. And to that i say, his talent is his emergency button.

[@Lunarelise]

He's REALLY great with follow up attacker. As it's currently stands, I happen to have all of them except Himeko (Also, you forgot to mention Herta). So yeah, definitely a must pull for me because I also don't have Bailu nor Gepard. He may not have the AOE healing like Nat or Bailu, but with a great timing character's ult, you can get the AOE heals going.

[@fishyjja]

he may not be a specialist in anything, he fills many rolls in just 1 character which frees up space for flexible teams

[@pincopallino1135]

I have c1 bailu and C6 Natasha and I'm still considering pulling for loucha Aoe dispel, effect Res, great heal, cleanse, imaginary, sub dps Feels a pretty strong dude

[@akarial2713]

I pulled for Luocha because I didn't have Bailu or Gepard (and because he is Beautiful !) and I got him after loosing my 50/50 to bailu lol. So now I have 3 healers. But I absolutely don't regret getting him, he is really comfy to use and I still needed someone with imaginary break. And he is still Beautiful

[@fandomowytoscik7885]

1. smart healing 2. you are immortal 3. he can do dmg 4.debuff 5. he is imaginary yea, he is better

[@reedsad4652]

Nah, MOC with all lvl 80 character with decent build can clear it without loucha prior to his release.

[@defenestratedone]

@@reedsad4652lol I don’t even have a single character at 80, much less all of them. I dunno where y’all find the resources. Seele is at 78 and starved for xp, don’t even get me started at maxing out traces

[@reedsad4652]

@@defenestratedone my traces are all lvl 6 and stop at that. Farmed xp books like its an artifact. Haha

[@simonditomasso9868]

@@defenestratedonewhales that fuel max refill everyday

[@simonditomasso9868]

@@reedsad4652ok and that’s true of every unit? Do you not understand why people judge characters at low investment for now that everyone is starting? Who cares about when your characters are lvl80 at that point you just brute force

[@numerowan69]

I have all the healers... e4 Natasha, e1 Bailu, e0 Luocha... All at level 70/80... I'm sorry but Luocha make other healers a literal joke... It's going to be really really hard for any future healers to powercreep him... IMO he is one of the character that will ages like fine wine...

[@isomi3981]

I just got him in like 20 pulls and here’s a review. I got him with little to no expectations since I was just building pity but than I got him and he’s a game changer, unless you’re a early player than I would’t recommend getting him due to his materials + natasha is already a pretty good healer and you get her for free but if you’re in the late games like me and your characters was constantly on life support when fighting than Loucha is absolutely amazing. His skill automatically heals you which itself is already worth it to pull but the other good thing is that you don’t even need that much good pieces, I just put some of my natasha’s light-cones and relics and he already heals my character fully (keep in mind I have never even build my natasha and her relics are given free in early game and I have never touched her since than) Especially if you’re going to pull for characters like blade who takes damage a lot than loucha is absolutely the best for that, although you could always use a shielders if you want I think healing itself or just loucha’s auto heal is much better and his skill points are almost always never 0. Although someone like natasha or baliu is already good healers I think if you’re in late game or just clearing the forgotten halls and need a healer than I would 100% recommend loucha.

[@kevinmarius2806]

For those who haven't pulled him what to consider when pulling for Luocha is that 1. a good second healer / chip dps especially because he has healing based on atk and also good if you don't have gepard or bailu 2. Auto emergency healing could help in most situation 3. Imaginary character if somehow some reason you don't have Yulong and don't want to wait he is also another imaginary character 4. Buff dispel on enemy

[@diablioscortes862]

funny you made this video explaining how Luocha is different from Natasha and Bailu when in the previous one you claimed that the game has no complexity because characters of the same paths are the same...

[@SomeRetroGuy]

I have baliu and I pulled loucha for mono imaginary with Yukong welt and silver wolf. It was beyond worth it lol.

[@shanecoffing]

Btw i want to say with the right setup gepard can solo tank. He draws a bunch of aggro and revives upon death so he can pretty easily be a solo tank as most fights are over by the time he would finally get K.Od So really there are 4 options now for solo supports but they all have ups and downs. Alot of people are scared to not have a healer on there team which makes sense

[@lemonrose1254]

My only worry is that since his healing is based off of attacks, he is going to get 1 shot easier that other healers who are based on hp. I think with time and more content being released we’ll see how he fares in the meta.

[@finiraelkhami8251]

He shouldn't get 1 shot if you build defensive sub stats. Then again, it's speculation

[@vaanfor]

He has one of the highest base hp in the game (1280), only losing to gepard (1397) and bailu (1319), and has 3 innate hp boosting traces, and will end up w well over 4k+ with almost no hp% sub-rolls and no LC with max hp%. There is no mob even on MOC10 that hits that much in 1 move. If he does get 1 shotted, then characters like tingyun(846) or seele(931) will also get 1 shotted as well with barely 3k hp when decked out with dps oriented relics as well. If u swap out just 1 pc for hp% main stat, he will hv well over 5k hp.

[@Aaron_Kuroiwa]

Effect resistance and HP > Atk You also don’t need to max attack. He’s gonna over heal.

[@Konkonnie]

I already saw a guy using him and his lightcone at Lvl 40 on MoC Floor10 and suviving most of the fight.

[@songsayswhat]

I was worried about that, too. But he has a pretty high basic HP. I don't remember the math, but he was easily 1000-1100 hit points higher than the other 3 members of his team.

[@chigosensei2551]

Loucha is a beast he trivializes solo healing MoC when built, he's the highest pull value we have right now imo, you don't need any specific dps to clear MoC as long as you have 2 good ones but you need good healing on both sides. even when more healers come out I don't see him falling with such a strong kit unless they provide both strong support and strong healing

[@Mysdia]

Luocha + Arlan... From a recent mission where we got to try Arlan; it seems he can burst attack several times before his next turn even, And drains his own HP each time - so he could really use some automatic healing it seems like.

[@TheDarkKillerGR]

i did the dumb and wished on silverwolf banner (wanted 4 star cons) when i didnt really wanted her and i got her. i dont have bailu so i could use a second healer so i hope i dont lose my 50-50 when i try to get him

[@HRavenfolks]

Wish you luck

[@nox6687]

I was going to get Luocha, but I lost the 50/50 and got Bailu so I guess that's a sign

[@liquet3115]

Just want to mention this. Post-Op Conversation light cone's Outgoing healing will have no effect on Luocha as that only grants additional outgoing healing to the Ultimate. This means Post-Op light cone will only grant Luocha the Energy regeneration. While not bad, from my time of playing with him, he doesn't really have an issue with energy as you really only want to use his Ult to get his Talent, Abyss Flower Field back online for consistent heals. I would suggest Shared Feeling as a 4 Star Light Cone for anyone who has it. Otherwise, Quid Pro Quo is also okay. For 3 Star Light Cones, Cornucopia is most likely your best bet, but with Quid Pro Quo being free to get, just go with that if you don't have Shared Feelings. On Baliu's Sig Light cone, I would still argue that is good on LuoCha even with him not scaling on HP as you would most likely want to stack Atk% Relics on him, which would make him quite squishy in the health department, which is why I believe the 18% health gain from Time Waits for no One could be a nice boost to give him more survivability. If you've already pulled Time Waits for No One Light cone from one of your previous pulls, I would say it's worth using it for now but DO NOT EXCHANGE the light cone from the shop as it's not worth the Starlights in my opinion.

[@khaiidehara]

actually since he has 5 star stats and cus abundance light cones just give a lot of hp, you dont actually need much extra. right now my luocha has 3700hp and 3400 atk, which is a lot more than all my other units who sit at around 2.5k hp so in reality he's not actually as squishy as most make him out to be

[@yeet9914]

Does shared feeling's passive activate on his autoheal? Been getting mixed infos on this

[@liquet3115]

@@yeet9914 Unfortunately, from what I'm seeing his passive heal that activates upon Ally

[@yeet9914]

@@liquet3115 thx for the info, thats unfortunate, but still a good light cone i guess. How about perfect timing? with his 70% cc res i dont see it as useful as i thought, but maybe im wrong?

[@Lightstation_]

Me who got Bailu at the start of the game then just got e1 when I lost the 50/50 to Silverwolf. She's carried me through a lot of fights with her raw healing and once her battle revive

[@iswhatitis9769]

I say it depends on your own units and how you are building him. Example, I threw him in with my Clara and they are immortal duo to the point that I just threw in more DPS in that team because the team is already broken with just these two. Natasha is on bench for me. I only throw her in at this point if I notice that my Gepard alone can't maintain whole team alive on his own (these situations are honestly beyond rare). Back to this guy: Even without Clara, he seems to work the best in team that is going to deal damage a lot. Bonus if they can get multiple turns (Seele, Sushang). You want of your team to deal damage as much as possible, and as often as possible. Also, another trick to keeping his circle up 24/7 is to ult the moment circle finishes. Then, assuming that nothing hit you/him hard enough to go below half-health so his talent triggers and that way he gets circle up - you just waste a single skill point that turn to get it up and then it's back just smacking things without a brain, because death is no longer an option. Either way, I got this man, now I can go back in coma until Jingliu drops since I ain't interesting in anything before her.

[@404dne]

bronya selee combo with extra turns and fire trailblazer for the team wide defense and anti burst the auto heal and the field is way more than enough to keep the team healthy while doing good damage

[@Fr00stee]

You missed one 4* lightcone for luocha, Perfect Timing is pretty good on him as well but post op with refinement seems to be better

[@laszlovincze5095]

Perfect Timing has his face on it, you gotta use it

[@lynxace1602]

I rolled on Luocha's banner because I needed a second healer and Bailu showed up (around 50 pity). I'm so freaking happy! now I can use guaranteed pity on the SSR I want from patch 1.3 AND I have 2 healers even so! having your cake and eating it, fr

[@panthinox7806]

as a mr svarog main his auto heal is amazing for someone who porously gives my enemies as many hits as possible.

[@deltaspecies1697]

Id say hes not that worth if a pull if u have gepard or bailu. If u dont have either,hes a good pull. But then again u can also wait for lynx who is leaked to be a 4* abundace quantum unit and she does seem to have a very good kit with good utility as well.

[@playbtdbattles2409]

I feel like bailu doesnt consistently heal my clara because it just bounces off to another guy and then my clara just dies

[@yveslvwn]

I just got Luocha this morning and i gotta say, he's in the middle right now. One of his talents is when you have his field up and one of our allies attack they geal the whole team for a small bit of hp, it's a convenient way of healing the whole tram with one flower field. But since I'm trying to save up skill points for my dps, i only have field up when hid ult is up. So he's kinda hard to use for me

[@HRavenfolks]

Increase your ER and you're good to go. Luocha is actually considered as a "skill points positive" character because on how much skill point you can regenerate when compared to other healer. The way on how to play his rotation is simply by doing Basic Attack > Basic Attack > Skill, if you have enough ER, this rotation should guarantee your Ult to be online. Another thing is that to never use his ult or skill whenever the field is on because you want to stack that abyss flower as much as possible.

[@darien4969]

Overrated character anyway he's not a must.

[@kwayke9]

He seems to be a better healer (as he should, he's limited after all), but not a must pull imo, unless you main Arlan (?). Now once we get more destruction carries (and oh boy there's a lot of them coming up), he'll get better (or you can just use Clara and go dual carry)

[@HRavenfolks]

It's actually the opposite. If you're maining Arlan, you cannot pair him with Luocha. Because unlike Blade (an upcoming character who also consume HP), Arlan damage increases the lower your HP gets. Because of Luocha emergency heal, Arlan couldn't be used at his 100% potential because his HP is going to be above 50% most of the time. In case of Blade, his damage doesn't increase the lower his HP gets, instead, he just simply consumes his own HP for each attack he does, making him a great pair for Luocha.

[@discreaminant]

I think this kind of video also poses powercreep concern in this game

[@allyrose9494]

Tbh, I wasn’t sure if I was gonna pull for Luocha at first, not because I don’t like him but more so because I’m saving for someone in 1.3. However after testing him out I’m at least gonna try pull him because he does seem pretty damn nuts

[@TyranitarSpirit]

I would say that he is the most safe healer, specially because he insta heal your character when goes below 50%, and sometimes this happens to your DPS, as for the field, it can help every character, being DPS or not. Also, i guess the only dispel in the game is Pela, having a dispel AOE helps more than you think. Natasha (remove debuff as well, but i guess you get the point) and Bailu provide only healing, while Luocha can helps the team without even to use skill points, being the passive or the field, the damage is not that high but can be of help. Also, come on, he is Otto from the HI3 novel, you really need more motives to pull for him?

[@whole.milk__]

I'd argue that Time Waits for No One is actually a really nice weaopn for him - just because his healing doesn't scale of HP% doesn't mean that the extra HP% isn't super nice to help with his own bulkiness. Remember, given he will likely be building alot of ATK% instead of HP, he can tend to be squishy and you would appreciate some bulkiness so he doesn't get one shot like Tingyun tends to get...

[@diegobellino9331]

I have both Bailu an Nat, and I still pulled for him! And I do feel an upgrade. Ngl.

[@hailthequeenFM]

I didn't expect Star Rail content on this channel.

[@andro5t]

Yes he's so much better then the other two options that it's not funny i always thought bailu and Natasha are very similar to qiqi and Barbara and the release of loucha has very much solidify that in my mind its not loucha is broken it's bailu and Natasha are bad but don't get wrong he's pretty good just not broken

[@danidan2174]

because he can heal outside of his skill/ult, upcoming healer will also do the same with added utility 4*star one got HP buff+taunt+cleanse all debuff, 5* star one got atk buff+free energy, so sadly he will powercrept very soon

[@simonditomasso9868]

@@danidan2174powercreep is inevitable in gacha games, even seele will eventually be powercrept, I think his kit is good enough that he’ll stay relevant for long enough

[@queenz5704]

People where discouraging me that I shouldn’t pull for Luocha because I already have Bailu and Natasha since I’m trying to save for Blade. But I tried my luck and got him in 1 ten pull. I’m super happy with him and I can still save for Blade so I don’t regret anything

[@yanyanyannn_]

i got so unlucky with my standard five stars that most of them are light cones i dont have bailu or geopard this guy is a life savior for my team im planning to get blade and hes going to be perfect for him

[@alliu6562]

I’ve got 1 hour left before he arrives I’m SO HYPE

[@meronmeron866]

It does work with follow up attacks, my jing talent heals a shit ton with luocha's field

[@kennibal666]

I lost 50/50 on Luocha banner to my first copy of Bailu and managed to get Yukong, so I think I'm good for now.

[@stefaanmitrovic9045]

luochas talent heals everyone in the party

[@MaxllmuS]

We need more 4 star healers ) I really want Lynx for mono quantum team

[@tencive5749]

Luocha in the future will easily overtake bailu as more destruction dpses come out

[@seppukujordan5183]

I watch all 3 of your Channels on a daily base but using Fire emblem music makes me like you even more.

[@rosaria715]

when u are like me and only aim for pela and Yukong, but u get 1 loucha and 5 quingque, that feel bad

[@mikuz210]

He's really good for times you just need the constant heals/top offs. Mainly need Bailu and Natasha for bosses that go crazy on you so all the healers have their uses 😊

[@therederik4963]

Honestly he completely eclipses natasha in any way imaginable while allso being an abundance healer that deals dmg like ehat more could you want?at skill 2 he already outheals my skill 6 natasha with at least 30% so i don't understand how he could be a sidegrade to natasha but ok.Also he is imaginary wich means you won't have to fill the imaginary role anymore and he will forever be more versatile because of that also his healing is over self sufficient even if less bursty then bailou and i my honest opion is the true muspull unit in terms of healing,why build gepard and natasha when you have 1 character that does it all better while also provideing cleanse and the most important part offense as well

[@allentayoto7387]

Here's my take on Luocha right now. He is over all better than Natasha and Bailu in healing. But you should also consider whether you actually NEED a healer. I'm currently in TL 61, Equilibrium 5, and I rarely use Abundance units due to Preservation units having better uses. Preservation units has the highest chance to get attacked, and they have a way to make the enemies hit them (MC taunt, March Shield, Gepard Trace). To add, they are tanks, and their relic choices are actually really good. Of course, if you want to collect all characters, or just like Luocha overall, then go ahead and pull him... do be reminded, that Blade and Kafka are getting close, two DPS units. My only actual reason why I pulled on Luocha banner was for Yukong, this way I can assure an Eidolon for her too once we get that free Yukong.

[@khaiidehara]

id say abundance will be more usefull soon though, as blade is someone who wants to lose hp to do more damage, so having a shielder with him is actually worse since it limits his damage. if we get more units like that then theyll be more helpful. and also a good amount of characters have certain traces that only activate if theyre still above a certain amount of hp, so if somethign breaks your shields and you have no way of regaining that hp, youre then at a dps loss

[@TheBurgess92]

I love this character. Utility and Healing are off the charts and will age well imo.

[@geboaebo]

Spoiler , but He's so damn suspicious that I'm almost convinced he's the stellaron smuggler. I'm not sure if his latest quest was meant to debunk this theory, or if it's still a possibility

[@mellofuego4917]

Post-Op light cone grants healing bonus for the ultimate only. Luocha's burst does not heal, therefore the outgoing healing buff is wasted.

[@kunoichihawaii146]

I now have only Daddies on my Team thanks to Luocha😏

[@alexanderlloydmendoza979]

Only reason I'm not pulling for luocha is because I'm happy with my dual phys/quantum comp for silver wolf, if there is an imaginary tank to go along with luocha then I'm pulling

[@nerdlord7994]

I was f2p without bailu (or any imaginary damage), and then on the 10 pull I got luocha on, I also got bailu right after lmfao. guess I've got options now at least

[@Deman_Dema]

I only get him to build mono Imaginary team (+SilverWolf) But If I have Bailu, I won't go for him and build Mono Lighting team instead.

[@lanzcarisma2553]

Just got Loucha, looking forward to this sus gentleman

[@FunTimeGhz]

The million dollar question is, Is effect res, which is a state found in relics, the same as CC res, which is found in Louchas kit? If they are the same, then all I have to do to skip him is, giving Bailu/Natasha relics that rolled all into effect res. Hard but possibly long term. If they aren't the same, then he is a must pull since there's no way so far in the game to increase cc res.

[@Igraphi7335]

Yes it is possible. But this is not what makes him unique. His unique ultimate dispel ability of monsters which cannot revive again Also it is very very helpfull for aoe dps. Like jingyuan. Which healer took from him 1 point of skill always.

[@FunTimeGhz]

​@mirage6335 If effect res is the same as cc res. No solid confirmation so far. I am waiting for an answer in order to pull or skip.

[@Igraphi7335]

​​@@FunTimeGhzh i throught you want to know it is possible to gain effect resistance from relics then my bad for missunderstanding. I hope you get your answer one day.

[@FunTimeGhz]

Natasha has that I believe

[@Igraphi7335]

@@FunTimeGhz i didnt know what is cc but I think you want to know you talk about debuff which apply for your allies while the healer is using skill of healing the player. [Not count the ultimate] In ability of assencion only natasha and Luocha has this ability. Bailu hasnt but she has revive the ally while he will be fainted.