Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? | Dr. Warren Farrell & Paul Elam

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Cassie Jaye

Cassie Jaye

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@Aquilus1337
@Aquilus1337 7 жыл бұрын
"When either sex wins, both sexes lose." Legendary words by Dr. Warren Farrell
@solezest7134
@solezest7134 7 жыл бұрын
While I don't believe men would take it to such extremes without some biological facts being different even then, it gave me a funny feeling when I realized that what he described as patriarchy is pretty much the exact opposite of what we have now... Note: I don't mean that man would be inherently nicer or anything if they indeed had such little sympathy towards women, just that they wouldn't risk losing wars(aka: potential death) or relying on pregnant women for their income it's just too big of a risk...
@bluemeriadoc
@bluemeriadoc 7 жыл бұрын
legendary or cliche?
@Dagovernment
@Dagovernment 7 жыл бұрын
jesus christ, do you reckon in both outcomes, there might be people of either sex losing and thinking "and this is what my sex winning looks like, is it?"? We are not in gangs connected by telepathy.
@fredneecher1746
@fredneecher1746 7 жыл бұрын
+Madness 1.0 - I was going to say much the same, only politely.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@aaronlayes4485
@aaronlayes4485 7 жыл бұрын
I was a stay at home dad for four years. My wife simply made more money than I could. So we decided that was how we wanted to divide our labor. However we both found hardship. She was ridiculed for having a lazy good for nothing man and I found there was no help for stay at home dad's. MOPS doesn't help men, they would not even help me with ideas. My kids were hurt by this because they missed out on the benefit MOPS provided to the kids of stay at home moms. I found this again and again. When my daughter hurt her head and I called 911 I was immediately accused of child abuse the social worker said they had to investigate this because I am a man. They took my kids away for a year. In that time I was constantly attacked for being over emotional to my child's injury. I was attacked because I was sexually assaulted as a kid so they investigated my kids to see if I was molesting them. Because I was a stay at home dad I was forced to take psych evaluations to see if I was insane or unstable. I was forced to go to a councilor for over a year despite not having any problems even the councilor could not understand but she was getting paid so I went it was free so why not. However the whole thing was just to try and find something wrong. After a year my kids came home, because the state didn't want to look bad for false accusations I was put through adminstrative court with my wife. It by the way does not allow for council, and has a conviction rate of 99.5% but you should ignore what might be wrong with that. We were both convicted in adminstrative court of neglect. However criminal court has found no cause and dismissed the case. The administrative finding however will follow both of us for life. The system hates men, and it attacks any women who stands by their man's side.
@philipptanzer1572
@philipptanzer1572 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Aaron, I am so sorry to hear about your experience! I really want to be a father and the fact that i am already afraid of things like being accused of abuse or neglect of the child is a tragedy but unfortunately a reality
@richardb9185
@richardb9185 6 жыл бұрын
Yep...stay at home dads are mocked and criticized...gee, I wonder why more men focus on careers...
@kevinsullivan171
@kevinsullivan171 6 жыл бұрын
Infuriating!
@pedritonavaja5596
@pedritonavaja5596 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. That's a nightmare.
4 жыл бұрын
The word getting out about stories like this are the reason the birth rate will be dropping even more in the future. It makes one want to say, “What’s the point?”
@gbultimate
@gbultimate 7 жыл бұрын
It's a goddamn crime that this man is not allowed to teach at university
@anthonylipira9526
@anthonylipira9526 7 жыл бұрын
Geert Bruineman He should make his own version of a Gender Studies class and put all the lectures online.
@howwitty
@howwitty 7 жыл бұрын
I expected feminists to take credit for inspiring men via provocation to achieve that type of successful post. But now it's clear that their provocations were not inspirational, but denigrating. Cassie said in her recent interview that she was inspired by provocative posts by MRAs. Maybe she will get a post at an American university for film studies with tenure.
@gigsrouiy8080
@gigsrouiy8080 7 жыл бұрын
Geert Bruineman the primary purpose of university is to indoctrinate the youth with anti family divide and conquere marxism, feminism is an objective of the great goal of marxism
@Captain_MonsterFart
@Captain_MonsterFart 6 жыл бұрын
You can damnwell bet he's never even applied for the job. He's just making presumptions.
@kenfarmer7189
@kenfarmer7189 6 жыл бұрын
@@Captain_MonsterFart Early on he DID apply for the jobs, after a decade or more he gave up. It is in one of his books that I have read.
@skeptorr
@skeptorr 7 жыл бұрын
I bet you can make another documentary from the stuff which never made the cut, and it will still be as good.
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 7 жыл бұрын
Go Red Pill II 💊
@eyes1184
@eyes1184 7 жыл бұрын
Even better, splice in the fallout from The Red Pill release. Include footage (news and on-camera) of protests against the movie, shut downs, slanderous reviews, etc. Cassie can also do another video diary about her experiences since the movie's release, culminating with her nasty treatment from Australian programs. Call it "The Bitter Pill".
@knightace2002
@knightace2002 7 жыл бұрын
"All sex is rape" *chant 3x* This is library!" *walks off like a boss* would be a must have video to include. Fuckin' bossed those kuntas.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 6 жыл бұрын
Based on what I've seen, I concur.
@dreamsofturtles1828
@dreamsofturtles1828 7 жыл бұрын
"Both genders risked their lives in different ways." Thank you for saying that. Yes, either torn apart by a cannon , arrow, or a large prey animal, men risked, and gave, their lives for the cause of human survival. Women risked being torn apart by a baby (with an enlarged head/brain) coming thru the birth canal. They too risked and gave, their lives in the cause of human survival.
@Xenor999
@Xenor999 2 жыл бұрын
Enlarged head are not the exception not the rules but men dying was a rule.
@androphile
@androphile 7 жыл бұрын
Warren Farrell is savage here.
@davey1602
@davey1602 7 жыл бұрын
In such a mild mannered, almost apologetic style too.
@gbultimate
@gbultimate 7 жыл бұрын
Intellectually savage, he just very eloquently and respectfully destroyed modern feminism
@pauljackson2409
@pauljackson2409 7 жыл бұрын
He's still contaminated with the leftist/feminist mid-set that sees men and women as interchangeable in their societal roles. What he was saying about a 'true' patriarchal society having women as combat soldiers and the main bread-winners was preposterous.
@androphile
@androphile 7 жыл бұрын
No, it makes zero sense to suggest that because there will be equal rights and privileges, men and women are biologically the same. This is a tradcon gender ideologue right here.
@androphile
@androphile 7 жыл бұрын
I am not claiming that they are the same.
@tet5uo
@tet5uo 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for releasing these.
@andrewpowell1734
@andrewpowell1734 7 жыл бұрын
tet5uo cool avatar
@davidh.4944
@davidh.4944 7 жыл бұрын
Farrell is the man! His description of what an actual Patriarchy would be like at the end was just brutal. That really should have been included in the film.
@JakkFrost1
@JakkFrost1 7 жыл бұрын
If "The Patriarchy" truly existed, women would be too afraid to complain about it the way some of them do.
@girlwriteswhat
@girlwriteswhat 7 жыл бұрын
Especially since violence against women for the purpose of keeping them in line is a patriarchal norm and all. Here's a hilarious thing Don Dutton said in a speech he gave to the Canadian Senate (paraphrasing): In the US they did a random dial telephone survey of ~5000 American adults, asking them about their attitudes around domestic violence. From the survey, when asked if they agreed with the statement, "It is okay for a man to hit a woman to keep her in line," 2% of men and 1.8% of women answered yes. Feminists want people to believe that this is a "normative attitude". Now when you want to call something normative, you're generally thinking half or more of the population, or certainly a large minority, but this doesn't even pass the 6% test. And you might be wondering why I would choose 6% as an arbitrary ceiling, but that's because 6% is the percentage of Americans who believe they were abducted by aliens. Would you describe the certainty that you have been abducted by aliens to be a "normative" belief? And yet three times as many Americans believe THAT than believe it's okay for a man to hit his wife to keep her in line, and feminists want us to believe that this 2% of people represent the normative values and beliefs of our society...
@theawecabinet
@theawecabinet 7 жыл бұрын
"... 6% is the percentage of Americans who believe they were abducted by aliens. ..." Is this a typo? I find it hard to believe 6% of Americans believe they were themselves abducted....... maybe 6% believe in the alien abduction phenomena. In any case..... there are THOUSANDS of reported and meticulously documented (photos, videos, samples, police testimony etc) cases of animal and occasionally human 'mutilations' every year all over the world. The surgery performed on these animals defies even our most high tech medical equipment, and yet it is done often in remote locations at night in the driving rain, or right next to a farm house with absolutely no disturbance to the farmers or their dogs. Often the animals are semi wild and cannot be caught easily (try catching a horse in a field that does not want to be caught). There are never any tire marks or blood on the ground. No sign of struggle. Often the 'mutilated' animals are found with telescoped legs as if dropped from a great height, or sometimes they are found up trees or on telegraph poles also as if dropped there from a great height. Not even hunting cameras can detect the perpetrators. Nobody has every been caught abducting these animals or mutilating them. These would have to count as alien abduction cases. We simply do not posses the technology to perform such bizarre and technical procedures. UFO's are commonly sighted in the vicinity of the 'mutilations'. If the media reported these cases (or reported them honestly with all the facts rather than misrepresenting them as 'frenzied knife attacks') then I guarantee 90% of people would side with the alien abduction explanation, because it is the only explanation which accounts for the evidence. The 6% figure represents the percentage of adults who have slipped through the mainstream media control of information and looked at the raw evidence for themselves and come to a reasonable conclusion. It is not just men's issues that get covered up or misrepresented by the media and establishment.... MRA's are angry white men who can't get laid....just as UFOlogists are tin foil wearing nutters who have watched too many X files episodes..... yeah, yeah.... we get it. The flack is always strongest when you are right over the target. Watch the (100% evidence based) doc 'Silent Killers' on YT if you want to red pill yourself on this subject.
@bencarter1666
@bencarter1666 7 жыл бұрын
theawecabinet Very interesting comparison, the UFO field gets ridiculed but when you look at the available evidence you realise it is the biggest story in human history and could hold the answers to all existential questions. That includes other paranormal phenomena (psychic, spiritual, astral projection springs mind)
@JakkFrost1
@JakkFrost1 7 жыл бұрын
+Karen Straughan ~Exactly what I meant, violence against women is acceptable in a patriarchy, like certain middle-eastern countries. And I must say I'm honestly not surprised by that 6% figure. I'm also not surprised that the number of men and women who think that justified violence against women is ok is nearly even. I had a light-bulb type theory several weeks ago about why some women accept, and often even seek out, men who "know how to keep them in line" (apart from the BDSM subculture, I mean), but I have a mind like a steel trap, anything caught in it often gets mangled into unrecognizability, and I haven't been able to recapture the idea. Also, YAY! Karen noticed one of my posts! 8D
@JakkFrost1
@JakkFrost1 7 жыл бұрын
+thomas oconnor ~ Yes, I just get tired of always adding the "(in the west)" qualifier when it should be obvious.
@eznosnopes5276
@eznosnopes5276 7 жыл бұрын
Warren needed a mic drop at the end. Brutal takedown of patriarchy. That 13 or 14 bit was weird though.
@martyfeldman3269
@martyfeldman3269 7 жыл бұрын
Ezno Snopes he was talking about teenage boys and how they see older women. He flipped the the script, his point is it's weird the other way round.
@bobbruce4135
@bobbruce4135 7 жыл бұрын
What seems "weird" is entirely subjective and differs enormously by time and place. We used to value neoteny and our reward for sacrifice was the virgin nulliparous bride. We've been doing that beginning about 3 million years ago. In the last 3 decades only, have we in the West been indoctrinated to find that repulsive and illegal because that's how Wall Street, evangelicals and blown out hos (feminists) want it. We accept as self-evident ANYTHING we are indoctrinated to believe in our culture, tradition and religion in which exposed.
@foryourspirit3995
@foryourspirit3995 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Allen I think you're right and what he was trying to say is that when men come into their sexuality at about 13 or 14 years old, they find older women attractive much more so than pubescent girls their own age. So Ferrell is expressing the shoe on the other foot so to speak, but it will get lost in the screaming of some victimhood or something a rather. To extend the point though look at how a 50-year-old alpha male is valued because of his achievements, money, and possessions like a large house etc. and is desirable to women, especially younger women. If there is an older woman who has the same traits, by Farrell's logic a younger man would be attracted to her. That would flip the coin on the gender roles.
@AttunedFlux
@AttunedFlux 7 жыл бұрын
The fact that you are triggered by the mere mention of sexuality in teenagers is silly. 13 and 14 is usually where it begins, and sometimes even at 12. Demonization of sexuality and sexual repression are some of the main causes of confusion surrounding the subject. Our society is so sick, that just the mere mention of this coming from someone who is not a woman or a teenager is seen as "pedophile-like".
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 7 жыл бұрын
Waiting to 18 is a very recent phenomenon in history. Traditionally men would grab them at about 13. The comment is historically accurate.
@Franciscoman23
@Franciscoman23 Жыл бұрын
The way the world would look like if there was a patriarchy was truly eye opening
@ForeverBennett
@ForeverBennett 5 жыл бұрын
Cassie Jaye is one of the bravest filmmakers out there.
@ChristnThms
@ChristnThms 6 жыл бұрын
Men are an ironic paradox. We have evolved to take the greater risks, for the good of the species, because a shortage of men doesn't impact birth rates, but a shortage of women does. So we evolve this self sacrificing role in society. But, at the same time, in order to excel at taking those risks, we evolved to be strong, more risk tolerant and more aggressive. Which is the paradox. We have the ability to take power by force, and the inclination to do so. Yet, we have the role of the protector, expected to lay down our lives if necessary. We are disposable, and yet we are also better suited to survive than those that we protect.
@splodgenessabounds150
@splodgenessabounds150 7 жыл бұрын
Warren Farrell looks and sounds like such a gentle, harmless chap, but something steel fist something velvet glove. The look on Paul Elam's face as he looks at the camera at about 12:53 says it all - a "I have nothing to add to that" sort of look. Thanks, Cassie. By hook or by crook, you are helping right a grievous wrong.
@blastpeed9994
@blastpeed9994 7 жыл бұрын
Patriarchy: define maleness as toxic, to which everything negative related to gender, can conveniently be reduced to toxic masculinity. Masculinity and femininity do different things, to which taken to extremes, masculine and feminine properties can be toxic, and to which matriarchal conspiracy narratives can also be created in the same way.
@fayeaitken5085
@fayeaitken5085 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, both sides can be toxic when taken to the extreme. Its very hard to remain neutral in the modern landscape set for men's rights and women's rights activism. Both sides can quickly lead to radicalism and its important to be very cautious and critical of sources from both sides of these issues because I personally believe neither can be trusted.
@BenjaminEsposti
@BenjaminEsposti 7 жыл бұрын
The one big mistake that feminism makes is that it assumes that because men are often in high positions of responsibility and power, then the society must be male oriented. It does not take into account _WHY_ men do these things. Instead it determines that men solely do it for themselves, which is nowhere near true. In fact, men can be _very_ dedicated and loyal to their partners and family. It is a part of our natural desire to protect our loved ones. Just think about all the men out there who still do plenty of things for their wife year after year, in the hope that she will give him something back. (You know ... give back at least some emotional support, love, ... and even sex *gasp* ... but the thought of "owing" sex to men triggers feminists SOOOOO much. However, relationships don't work well when one-sided. Both have to give and take from each other. Also, it is a fact that men have higher sex drives than women do. We're biologically made for it. And when it comes to women being picky about having sex - well, I think that is (unfortunately) biological as well. At least, it is if you believe in evolution. XD)
@nspetals2778
@nspetals2778 7 жыл бұрын
Feminists assume that because if they were in power it is what they would do. Look at any place that has put women into positions of unearned power and it is obvious to even the most casual observer that they use the power to benefit themselves and other women exclusively.
@fayeaitken5085
@fayeaitken5085 5 жыл бұрын
@Dean Gaudet Hold up, what the fuck do you mean here? Just because some women are in charge of shit means "mens rights are being trampled on"? I'm seriously unsure of what point your trying to make here
@maverickh9
@maverickh9 7 жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for Dr. Farrell. The guy is an inspiration.
@tuahahussain9176
@tuahahussain9176 5 жыл бұрын
warren farrell's description of Patriarchy impressed me A LOT i think he just opened a flood gate of food for thought right there
@4812megan
@4812megan 7 жыл бұрын
This stuff is self-evident to me. Why do people not get this?
@poohbeartube
@poohbeartube 7 жыл бұрын
Socialization, internalization, propaganda perpetuated by the media, etc. Have you always questioned the status quo?
@richardb9185
@richardb9185 6 жыл бұрын
gynocentric culture.
@Ace.0.0.0.
@Ace.0.0.0. 4 жыл бұрын
Common sense is not so common.
@eigelgregossweisse9563
@eigelgregossweisse9563 4 жыл бұрын
used as economical units. We slave without having the foresight to see where it will take us. We only have the ego to grasp the wants, pleasures that capitalism has fed us.
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw 3 жыл бұрын
The left has brainwashed people to think every group is just out to dominate the rest, that everything is a class struggle. That's why they can't believe men would craft a society that would favor women, even though the most rudimentary instinct of any male animal is to protect and impress the females.
@takeoffyourblinkers
@takeoffyourblinkers 7 жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasure to watch Warren speak. One of the best on these subjects.
@johnmcmanus6719
@johnmcmanus6719 6 жыл бұрын
Warren Farrell just hit the nail on the head on what patriarchy would look like
@idleobserver7211
@idleobserver7211 4 жыл бұрын
"Patriarchy" as defined by usage is a synonym of "civilization".
@Bunny-du3xw
@Bunny-du3xw 5 жыл бұрын
He’s is so articulate and whatever he says should be expanded to youths in this day and age
@divyaverma9784
@divyaverma9784 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing! Warren Farrell and Paul Elam smashed it!
@anthonylipira9526
@anthonylipira9526 7 жыл бұрын
It almost hard to believe that a man as soft-spoken and mild-mannered as Warren Farrell gets demonized so much. Almost.
@Shawnbfromsd
@Shawnbfromsd 3 жыл бұрын
This is mind blowing. He's said a lot of things I've never heard before.
@Ashleyapples
@Ashleyapples 4 жыл бұрын
wow, i thought MRA were just angry people who felt they deserve more, but wow, what a profound critique of society and critical thinker
@masterdevoe2519
@masterdevoe2519 3 жыл бұрын
That's because our ideologies do all the thinking for us. They make us feel comfortable and we make notions in our head instead of actually thinking.
@Ashleyapples
@Ashleyapples 3 жыл бұрын
Master DeVoe i wonder what old ideas people have in their head that need to be cleaned out
@Scylithen
@Scylithen 7 жыл бұрын
So when can we expect this patriarchy to start ? Sounds awesome.
@willmolinar
@willmolinar 7 жыл бұрын
Paul is great but Warren is a fricking genius; the absolute master/grandfather of the Men's Rights Movement.
@KingKhan-123
@KingKhan-123 3 жыл бұрын
MRA is a failure
@ayooshiyer8621
@ayooshiyer8621 3 жыл бұрын
@@KingKhan-123 Are u a feminist?
@zeprowl
@zeprowl 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cassie. Please don't give up! You are an inspiration and an example to many. I think the modern "progressive" political movement which has incredible power is finding its membership fewer and fewer in number. Every time a new issue comes up any dissent is punished by shaming and exclusion. I've seen lesbians (and also myself sticking up for them) face threats of doxxing, "I'm sure your place of employment would love to know what a transphobe you are" for daring to suggest that there's nothing wrong with lesbians only wanting to date biological women. Privately people will disagree with much of the hardcore progressive feminist (etc) politics but are terrified of expressing their view, so powerful is the movement that alone in history has the ability to destroy the life of someone in another country simply for expressing themselves. These are people that agree on just about everything in politics, but a single issue disagreement leads to widespread abuse. It's fracturing the movement day by day, and slowly people are speaking up against it as those harmed increase and those who remain get increasingly smaller. I think when that gains momentum and the media is forced to give it time, you'll be seen as a pioneer for the return of freedom of expression, and rightfully so.
@siralbertholmes4040
@siralbertholmes4040 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent. .. these guys are awesome. ... so this is the kind of male aggression feminists have to deal with...right? !.... FACTS !
@fayeaitken5085
@fayeaitken5085 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh you have a fedora in your profile pic
@blahblah21747
@blahblah21747 7 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the balanced way you do these interviews. If only main stream media had more people like you.
@charlesbeaudelair8331
@charlesbeaudelair8331 7 жыл бұрын
If no one talked, this would make a nice ASMR video; but since I like the MRA's words, I think it's like a deluxe version of a ASMR video. It stimulates my senses and my brain.
@marcosf.a.7649
@marcosf.a.7649 7 жыл бұрын
The part Dr. Farrell gives a tip of what Patriarchy would look like... I'll record it and listen day after day, after day, after day... Savage Dr. Farrell.
@derekjevid2
@derekjevid2 4 жыл бұрын
The documentary was not enough to examine this subject this need to be a series.
@prettyhowtownprufrock3421
@prettyhowtownprufrock3421 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, passing property from Father to Son is not Patriarchy, but Patralineality. It is an interesting feature of many tribes that have a long tradition of War-like behaviour, that they are Matrilineal. Less War-like tribes tend to be patralineal.
@Fuzzthefurr
@Fuzzthefurr 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the part of these raw files that I like the most, I think, is Cassie herself. She's a feminist at this point, even if she's questioning what she thinks, and she STILL stays firmly by her priorities. Don't interrupt. Don't give loaded questions. Let your subject talk, like a documentarian, and she follows these tenets perfectly. I think she could interview a hard-core white supremicist nazi and still hold true to them, because EVEN before she 'took the red pill', so to speak, she's strong enough to do so. What you do is making a difference, but not as much as who you are. What you are, clearly, doesn't matter as much as that, because who you are makes you what you are; a seeker of truths, first and foremost.
@adityaparam8736
@adityaparam8736 7 жыл бұрын
the red pill should go on Blu Ray with all of these scenes
@billthecat3688
@billthecat3688 7 жыл бұрын
Cassie, great idea to post raw footage and unseen clips of your Red Pill documentary. Thank you!
@Virtuoso80
@Virtuoso80 6 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the missing question when we look at what are typically seen as male-dominated societies was, "Why?" They all go to great lengths to try and control female sexuality, but then we don't take the next step and realize they go to those lengths because female sexuality has tons of power over them. Ask any guy who's gone on a dating site how powerful he feels.
@societyofrobots
@societyofrobots 7 жыл бұрын
Dr. Warren Farrell is my hero, I'm always in full agreement. Paul Elam, who also makes good points, unfortunately comes off as hateful and sexist on his own youtube channel.
@laststop3h
@laststop3h 7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing, everything I hear from folks like Warren and Paul since ingesting the Red Pill make absolute sense but yet you simply can not fix your mouth to repeat any of this in the presence of a blue pill thinker without vicious backlash.
@ultimatemaijn
@ultimatemaijn 4 жыл бұрын
Male disposability as a result of patriarchy kind of goes against the whole premise of the patriarchy. If there is male disposability, then we don't have a patriarchy. The system can't benefit and hurt men; those are two contradictory points.
@malkav_ils
@malkav_ils 4 жыл бұрын
Well, that depends on your definition of a patriarchy. The system can benefit a group in some ways and hurt in other ways. That's what has happened to both men and women.
@ultimatemaijn
@ultimatemaijn 4 жыл бұрын
@@malkav_ils True that. A system could benefit and harm groups in different ways. I could agree there. The patriarchy hurts men too is used as a reversal. Example, men don't have to worry about their safety like women. Data shows that men are more likely to be victims of violent crimes. Patriarchy hurts men too.
@steve3131
@steve3131 7 жыл бұрын
Feminist say "It's all patriarchy" as a pretext to defer EVER doing anything for men's or boys' issues. They are deferred until every women's issue, no matter how trivial (can you say "microagressions"?) is addressed and rectified. It's also a way of at least implicitly blaming males for their own problems.
@jeezustheone
@jeezustheone 6 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of the fire .
@cherryblossom9422
@cherryblossom9422 7 жыл бұрын
This is the fault of traditionalism which teaches men from the childhood they must sacrifice themselves constantly "to protect women and children".
@TheEpicProOfMinecraf
@TheEpicProOfMinecraf 7 жыл бұрын
Cherry Blossom Is there something inherently wrong with being selfless?
@androphile
@androphile 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody is entitled to some else's protection.
@TheEpicProOfMinecraf
@TheEpicProOfMinecraf 7 жыл бұрын
RazorGayKandy Just because nobody is entitled doesn't mean one shouldn't offer it. It a beggar is dying of hunger on the side of the road, he isn't entitled to food, but keeping it away is morally repugnant
@androphile
@androphile 7 жыл бұрын
But women are not beggars in this analogy. Sorry. Women should be taught to be self sufficient.
@Weaseldog2001
@Weaseldog2001 7 жыл бұрын
Being selfless, isn't necessarily the same as being sacrificial.
@sirskeptic
@sirskeptic 7 жыл бұрын
Three of my favorite thinkers in one room. Farrell, Elam and Jaye. And each use completely different approaches.
@ferofax
@ferofax 7 жыл бұрын
That last part when Dr. Farrell outlines what a true Patriarchal society would look like... holy shit. I wish somebody would put those in bullet points and make a meme of it, something we can handily slap in the face of anyone and everyone that mentions patriarchy and say to them "Here's what true patriarchy would look like".
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
@azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 7 жыл бұрын
It is very respectable that you are listening to both sides cassie
@inceptional
@inceptional 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, this is the kind of stuff we need to be showing at universities--and yet it's the exact stuff they're all banning.
@robr.5044
@robr.5044 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Listening to these guys talk really turns the lights on.
@bradleykimmons
@bradleykimmons 4 күн бұрын
Amazing stuff. Even as a Christian, I really appreciate Warren’s secular, intellectual perspective.
@jeezustheone
@jeezustheone 6 жыл бұрын
Cassie your film has and continues to change my life .
@charlielune5348
@charlielune5348 7 жыл бұрын
Great men, great teachers, great interview. We need more of this. Thanks Cassie.
@densealloy
@densealloy 7 жыл бұрын
The 13 14 yoa analogy really clicked for me and immediately thought of the FLDS group here in AZ. This is an example of a patriarchal society.
@MrB1923
@MrB1923 7 жыл бұрын
Paul Elam's eye's just at the very, very end are so telling. He looks at Cassie as if he's thinking 'is she going to go bat shit crazy 'Big Red style' or is she taking this in like a normal human being?'. CLASSIC.
@biggregg5
@biggregg5 7 жыл бұрын
Warren's final words were epic.
@Microbex
@Microbex 5 жыл бұрын
We live in a gynocentric society, after decades of helping women for a better life. The new generation of young thirdwave feminists (in the west) has no idea how well they are off, and mainly attacks mens values because they do not know what to make of their own life. An ex-girlfriend of mine always spoke out loudly that she hated to work. But if she saw programs portraying strong academic women, she said that she should have been one of the academic women herself.
@danielgreenwald4517
@danielgreenwald4517 5 жыл бұрын
MC Chick SMH
@phillconklin382
@phillconklin382 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the extra footage.
@robertatkinson7129
@robertatkinson7129 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great project Cassie Jaye!
@amazingatheist4751
@amazingatheist4751 7 жыл бұрын
The argument about what a patriarchy would look like is almost complete opposite of what exists. Either the argument is flawed or we are living in a matriarchy.
@Lildizzle420
@Lildizzle420 7 жыл бұрын
this video was incredible and kind of blew my mind, I have been arguing this for a week and I could sense a problem with this patriarchy argument. I kept asking, where does patriarchy come from if every single person is birthed and raised by women? I dont know about any of you, but I can't tell my mom what to do....EVER and I don't live in 5k BC but I felt something wrong with the feminist arguments. now its all been put into context and thoughtfully explained.
@jordangordonbc
@jordangordonbc 7 жыл бұрын
Cassie, I just donated to your Patreon. Thank you. I believe in what you're doing, and I know you'll need regular donors to keep up your very good work. Jordan
@BOBSMITH-YouTubeStoleMyHandle
@BOBSMITH-YouTubeStoleMyHandle 7 жыл бұрын
This should have been in the movie. I just had a conversation about the bullshit myth of Patriarchy. I wish i could have just shown this video..... Thanks for releasing these. Maybe you could get a group of men and women MRA's and have them tour around holding lectures and film them as well as interview the people that protest them. Get them to watch them, then re-interview them after to see if they changed their minds on some issues. Kind of like a 8 part documentary.
@williamshirey3630
@williamshirey3630 6 жыл бұрын
You forget the joy of being a father,that is paramount in a mans mind
@CaptCutler
@CaptCutler 7 жыл бұрын
OMG, for a second there I thought Elam was sitting there with David Duke! lol
@honestjohn6418
@honestjohn6418 7 жыл бұрын
That house is slick. A true patriarchs cave 😂😂😂😂😂
@digitalbrand5510
@digitalbrand5510 5 жыл бұрын
Honest John bet it was built by women
@artiefischel2579
@artiefischel2579 7 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't this included in the film? Warren and Paul are both so eminently reasonable in this video, it would be hard for anyone (who actually saw the film) to purposely misconstrue what they are saying.
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 7 жыл бұрын
Because it wasn't a short sound bite
@thedolphin5428
@thedolphin5428 7 жыл бұрын
Artie Fischel . Well, have you ever had 50 hours of raw footage (most of which was probably brilliant material) with a production budget and viewer attention span limited to 1hr 50mins? Each documentary director is trying to construct a narrative (ideally objective, but ultimately biased by both conscious and unconscious perspectives). No doubt Cassie might re-edit her film differently a second time round, or, as she is doing now, releasing the raw footage as "extended evidence" of her journey and her thesis on men's rights issues. Many factors mean every doco cannot show the whole story. Good that we have it now, though.
@BenjaminEsposti
@BenjaminEsposti 7 жыл бұрын
War is not caused by patriarchy. Remember the girls getting into fights in school? Well, people have their own opinions and as such, war is pretty much inevitable, sadly. (Women _do_ tend to fight differently than men, but they are just as vicious in their own way!) When it comes to the "disposability" of men, well ... there is some biological aspect to it. We ARE stronger and such than women, so we are better suited for riskier things like protecting and working hard. But, the way I feel it is, society has lost the appreciation for men, motherhood, and even family values as well. (And as Warren says, responsibilities and obligations.) Warren really kicks ass here!
@Blag_Cog
@Blag_Cog 7 жыл бұрын
Society has lost appreciation for motherhood? I think you should wake up from your sleep. Motherhood is the only thing appreciated universally.
@theawecabinet
@theawecabinet 7 жыл бұрын
"...Motherhood is the only thing appreciated universally...." Why is motherhood considered less important than getting back to your 'fulfilling' career then? Why are children routinely dumped into day abandonment centres? Why is motherhood in your early or mid twenties considered to be not realising your full (career) potential?
@niceISbriss
@niceISbriss 7 жыл бұрын
theawecabinet Why? one word..... MONEY!! Don't even try to argue...
@jqbogus
@jqbogus 7 жыл бұрын
Men are disposable because a group can lose 80% of its men in a generation without changing the size of the next generation. Lose 80% of the women, on the other hand, and the next generation will be only 20% as large.
@Bestoftherest222
@Bestoftherest222 7 жыл бұрын
Wars are started because of women. Men want to please women, women want the world. Men want to give these women the world.
@harrywang6792
@harrywang6792 7 жыл бұрын
Personally I think if both gender movements starts with a mind set to silence the other movement, neither movement will win. Just like the matrix, the stronger one side is, the other will get stronger inevitably. The only solution in this gender rights crisis is to acknowledge both sides and work together. And it is a pain in the butt when someone is so close minded to even listen to other opinions.
@harryschultze6690
@harryschultze6690 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like we live in a matriarchy.
@acew101
@acew101 6 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary insights. And falling on deaf ears.
@RickTalbot
@RickTalbot 7 жыл бұрын
Love the discussion about rights vs responsibility.
@mickyboy1955
@mickyboy1955 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see two feminists sit in those seats and try to explain the reasons why they believe patriarchy exists and what it means in today's world...
@danielgreenwald4517
@danielgreenwald4517 5 жыл бұрын
micky rooney maybe kamala harris nd elizabeth warren
@hexflex-q9l
@hexflex-q9l 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Warren Farrell.....
@Gazerich
@Gazerich 7 жыл бұрын
Nora Vincent's book "Self Made Man" hits on some of what Dr. Farrell is talking about @9:00
@cbleman
@cbleman 6 жыл бұрын
I see this is a prime example of some key counters in a discussion where both sides are willing to listen to each other and respect the other side. That's why it's a failed discussion, because the other side won't listen 99.9999998% of the time no matter how valid the argument is.
@jordyulb4824
@jordyulb4824 6 жыл бұрын
YES the bit about 13&14 years old come over the wrong way. But am i the only one who understands it ? Its about the start of puberty , when boys enter puberty they get a giant attention shift from fun&sports to girls... this is scientifically proven ... He argues that if Men made all the rules and decided everything, men would turn that around they'd have girls go through that period. Ask ANY grown man about the first year of puberty and how hard and awkward that year is...
@ManuelGarcia-oz9uo
@ManuelGarcia-oz9uo 4 жыл бұрын
The boat analogy is best ive heard
@HoldenNY22
@HoldenNY22 7 жыл бұрын
Good Clip. I really agree with people who say that WArren really hit it out of the Park and Paul Elam also said a lot of Interesting things. I will Warren or Paul Elam could speak locally here in New York at some College or other Public Place.
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness 7 жыл бұрын
My mind was blown. Thank you for this video!
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness 7 жыл бұрын
I bought the Red Pill movie and have shared with all my friends.
@ChilapaOfTheAmazons
@ChilapaOfTheAmazons 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Cassie.
@SunRise-ul7ko
@SunRise-ul7ko 7 жыл бұрын
I've lost count of how many second dates I've missed out on, due to the fact as a man I have only paid my share of costs on a first date. Even though the dates were very affordable & every woman had a well paying career, due to them cherry picking equality . Now I'm getting fed up with my fucking bloudging girlfriend & her fucking entitlement mentality.
@whittakerdanielj
@whittakerdanielj 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@festernassociates
@festernassociates 6 жыл бұрын
Man that last 2 minutes REALLY says it ALL
@MKD247
@MKD247 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cassie. Great work!
@tylersingleton9284
@tylersingleton9284 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, Paul is super clean cut here, both his looks and his words. Feels weird to see him this way.
@FaddaWolf
@FaddaWolf 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, looking on the internet for the articles where men were banned from women/genders studies at college. there's another 1 where a professor resigned after the courts ruled that these guys should be permitted to any class at college they paid for. And lastly, the 1 where the lecturer made chat group and would secretly meet with the women to teach, while teaching the guys nothing.
@BNL07604
@BNL07604 7 жыл бұрын
This is a legendary vid that everybody in the world should see.
@BambooAcrobatVerte
@BambooAcrobatVerte 7 жыл бұрын
10:43 Dr. Farrell actually smashes the idea of patriarchy
@rohanthomas4134
@rohanthomas4134 7 жыл бұрын
I think that second response was absolutely amazing
@carchariasspartania3958
@carchariasspartania3958 7 жыл бұрын
This is great stuff! Keep the raw files coming please. ;) By the by, if these raw files were loosely organized into a couple hours I'd pay for them. Just a thought.
@slivven
@slivven 7 жыл бұрын
Dr. Warren Farrell ladies and gentlemen
@Kalifornia-Screaming
@Kalifornia-Screaming 6 жыл бұрын
@9:50 Oh my...I assumed Dr. Farrell taught at a university somewhere. Extremely unfortunate that he has been kept out of teaching at a university.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 7 жыл бұрын
He dropped that Pure Fire @ the End.
@OrpheusVA
@OrpheusVA 7 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful, thank you Cassie!
@chrishoff402
@chrishoff402 7 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to hear Dr. Farrell's impressions of the Frankfurt School and guys like Marcuse.
@audiophile64
@audiophile64 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they need to make a second edition so many red pills being tossed here need another movie to cover it all
@williamshirey3630
@williamshirey3630 6 жыл бұрын
This was evident in the old comics( Prince Valient),Ali Hupe.
@PM-oj5si
@PM-oj5si 5 жыл бұрын
Mind.....blown. He’s very logical. It’s hard to refute. Unimpeachable points.
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