Is Minoru Tanaka Smarter Than Light Yagami? - Death Note

In this video, we talk about the new Death Note Special One-Shot and it's main character Minoru Tanaka, and see how he stacks up against Light Yagami, the original Kira. Could Minoru defeat L? Just how did Minoru beat Near so easily? Could Light pull off what Minoru did? Just how smart are Minoru and Light?
(Includes the Death Note Manga / Anime, Death Note: How to Read, L - Change the World, Death Note Special One-Shot, and the B.B. novel by NISIOISIN)
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[@DaKillaCroc859]

I loved how Ryuk was so shocked Minoru didn’t know English. He was like “Bro really? Light knew english 🙄”

[@funtimeswithtyler1315]

Lol

[@vergilneedsmorepower473]

xDDD

[@MitskiFanboy99]

then why kill light smh

[@vergilneedsmorepower473]

Yeah why that's dark xD

[@yugioh5145]

@@MitskiFanboy99 bro light was getting the life sentence Ryun didn’t want to wait that long

[@Kodiakhunter]

"I do like seeing Death Note comeback in ANY form" Netflix: I'm bouta end this man's whole career

[@i_kamlesh]

LOL. The biggest problem of it tho is that..... It exists.

[@SH-ht4lg]

😂😂😂

[@blazingfire7517]

@Иван Грозный Do you mean something besides the anime and the horrid Netflix adaptation?

[@ivanovic4549]

@@blazingfire7517 No it's just that someone was complaining about the fact that there is no Death Note Anime version on Netflix. Maybe he delete his comment I don't know. But I told him that it's available on the French and Japanese version

[@monsterdrinkingtax2072]

@@ivanovic4549 also in czech republick

[@Darth_Bateman]

Minoru Takeda, made Japan rich AF and killed no one. Shinigami King : "Wait, that's illegal."

[@starlettemochii3341]

Just A Watch this kid literally make his country wealthy and make a big chaos without killing someone I wouldn’t say he smart as Light but he do got move I really like him aww man I wish he didn’t die like to see more of him :((

[@josiahjensen9418]

The power of money is nothing compared to the power of the death note... light seen the bigger picture

[@dillweedreal]

@@starlettemochii3341 ever heard inflation?

[@crazygamer_1082]

Yeah-exactly. That’s what I found so weird. Because in the rules it states YOU HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE before the Shinagami can kill you. Or am I wrong? I thought that’s how it worked. Because if not then how come so many people are still alive that just touched the notebook? 🤔🤔

[@Darth_Bateman]

@@dillweedreal I don't think you understand how inflation works. . . .

[@woopnull9103]

Minoru: PS5 ain’t gonna buy itself 🤷‍♂️

[@yce4039]

LMFAOO

[@kimmson6356]

🤣

[@dwightsimmons99]

Lmaooooo

[@qtaro-7097]

ONG 😂🙏

[@shahnazwm]

😂

[@BlackAF1RoundtableCEO]

Minoru : *_*Breathes*_* Near : *_“A-KiRa iS eXtReMeLy SmArT”_*

[@sasukeoftheleaf3179]

Shiroyasha honestly where’s the lie when near says that I was kinda like oh, ok I do like the one shot but it was sorta interesting to hear near say that

[@cvox607]

@@jeom3808 thank you....near ls L clone argument had always pissed me off Cuz people see him sit weird and dress weird and immediately reach that conclusion

[@arthurmorgan1830]

C Vox well he kinda is,they have lilttle differences Like there personality is almost exactly alike,its just that near is a lil more cautious

[@shrekstan1601]

Deonte Shawnn no you mean WAYYYYYYY more cautious

[@Flipitmixit]

😂😂😂😂

[@nottrottyy5330]

Minoru: "sells Death Note" Shinigami King: *I'm gonna do whats called a pro-gamer move*

[@kylephillip6753]

Honestly feelt like bs but i get.

[@colli_cf8497]

And as always, thx for watching

[@jstout333]

Would of been neat if the deathnote refused to kill him over a rule that was not written prior to his action opening a potential continuation.

[@Patron130]

The Rational Man he would have lived if he got the money before the rule was written

[@Ihavenomorestockpotrecipesplea]

Imagine getting a million dollars just to die the next day? Shinigami King is a savage.

[@WesDONG]

why didn't ryuk give the death note to an apple farmer?

[@christianlovato8088]

Lmao I get the joke. Im pretty sure that Ryuk wants to get the apples and entertainment

[@Flambingo]

The farmer's life would be too boring

[@arthurmorgan1830]

Stoic what? Are u crazy,apple farmers have the most interesting lives like imagine growing apple trees and then plucking them That would be the best job ever

[@narayasuiryoku1397]

I’m not even going to answer this question because it’s to dumb . If anyone ever watched death note, he should know why. So I guess you never watched death note. In this case get out of here now and go watch Death Note

[@theabsoluteduckman7631]

@@narayasuiryoku1397 cringe

[@z.k.5181]

Misa : had Two Shinigami died for her Light : had Two Shinigami lied for him Minrou : had Two Shinigami pissed off because of him

[@rajivelmurugan4053]

When you madlad you piss off gods

[@random_d00d]

Lmfao underrated comment

[@braze7478]

How did misa kill 2

[@kenouk6183]

@@braze7478 she didnt killed them but those two saved her life, wich if is a big no no if you’re a shinigami, and you die if you do it

[@braze7478]

@@kenouk6183 ik who are the to though rem and?

[@reina_harhar7815]

Light: I'll take a potato chip... And EAT IT! Minoru: I'll take a Death Note... And SELL IT!

[@nobraincelltobeseen]

I don't even watch Death Note but I'm having flashback of an anime I haven't even watch. Weird

[@EverydayASunday]

Most likely seen it in some AMV or anime crack, by how that scene gone viral xD

[@partapbejai548]

Lol

[@aliceblack1371]

Hehehe....😊

[@poprein290]

Does Death note continue?

[@gase273]

I’d say that light is smarter, but he has a bigger ego, which was ultimately his downfall

[@marlom7882]

gase well to be fair if you’re smart enough to outwit the number 1 detective in the world who wouldn’t be arrogant in their abilities after that?

[@DivineMew]

Deity Saturn a smarter person? Someone who allows a personality trait to be their downfall isn’t all that smart. Plus Light is “book” smart. He lacks both common sense and street smarts.

[@gase273]

Deity Saturn yea i agree, its what makes him human and a well written character imo, because he has these flaws

[@ireupzz4233]

Divine Mew Not to sound like a dick but him out smarting the greatest detective and the entire police force while being a suspect has nothing to with books lol he didn’t solve math equations he thought ahead and used common sense don’t be stupid all he used was street smarts and logic

[@goblinslayer8589]

We all have a big ass ego at some point that really backfires, cut the bullshit already it's kinda relatable I did not deserve this many like...wtf

[@NovaDopeness]

Don’t know if he’s smarter but we all can agree that he got that mf drip and the fresh cut 🔥🔥🔥

[@Rakimjoseph]

Facts

[@hannahnicole6135]

That’s what I was thinking the whole time lmfao

[@hannahnicole6135]

You know he’s wearing forces

[@userK77920]

Ikr, so smexcy

[@zeon_cipher5799]

facts that jacket was hard and i know he had on white forces

[@nash3714]

Minoru got done so dirty, he frickin won but the shinigami king got salty

[@Thenormalguy101]

i agree so much with you, he should have won that shit but some bullshit unwritten rule from a salty ass shinigami king fuked him over :(

[@sussy.tomato9001]

Ikr

[@youtoawesome4153]

Bruh light should've won too

[@sussy.tomato9001]

@@youtoawesome4153 hell no

[@youtoawesome4153]

Tadeo_Tomato yes he should've he just got screwed over by I forgot his name

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

Light was special, he was an extremely ambitious narcissist, while our new character was a more simple person looking out for his own well being like most people do...

[@davidkekstroll5836]

See no problem here when he SEEMS like a normal person.

[@kiangamingphuy5682]

David Kekstroll it doesn’t mean that it’s entertaining to see a normal person use the death note

[@davidkekstroll5836]

@@kiangamingphuy5682 Well, that's your opinion. Never said that in general but I like it.

[@eltren6120]

It really wasn't entertaining. I want to see sharp-minded, witted individuals trying to invade Near. In a series/story like Death Note (at least that's the precedent the OG left) , cat & mouse game is so much more entertaining than normalcy (aka boring)...

[@RileyWritey]

@@eltren6120 Speak for yourself. I think it's fascinating seeing what others would try with it. Not everyone is Light, I'd rather see this story try new things.

[@part6jotaro302]

Light: *uses the death note to become god of the new world* Minoru: *sells the death note to buy kpop merch*

[@ElSalvadortortilla]

LMAOO 🤣🤣

[@kalki.schizo]

You made my day by typing this comment 3 months ago.

[@h3llboyyy407]

For hair products *

[@hesally2343]

thank u i needed this

[@user-bp8ym6es3w]

light: im not like the other girls minoru: brain go brrrrr red velvet fansign

[@JohnJoe131]

Minoru just ran the passifist run to near perfection... and got scammed lol

[@someguy4844]

no resets :(

[@jasperbaunee1405]

@@someguy4844 undertale nerds :) (i love undertale)

[@KayceeJonesCKiwas]

Which is a shame huhu 😭

[@sharadiyasarkar5891]

But atleast he died a hero. Unknowingly he took the L for millions of other people

[@psyion6447]

Rosheen Sohail he dies cuz of the dumb new rule istg this one shot comic is very good but annoying yk :( and near is lost too so is kinda good but minoru (akira) died its so frustrating

[@hibarikyoya7580]

the author of death note is the real genius himself.

[@wlot28]

This is all I can think about when reading it

[@rayk5456]

You aren't wrong but if Ohba was actually in Light's shoes, I don't think he would last that long lmfao. He would probably get caught when he killed Lind L Tailor. I'm 99% sure he didn't come up of those solutions in under a minute

[@IIIISai]

@@rayk5456 lolll

[@helo9316]

@@rayk5456 its most likely he didn't come up with these solutions on his own either he definitely discussed it with his friends or college

[@rayk5456]

@@helo9316 Yeah lmao

[@goodguycwyzz4768]

I don’t think we can compare stealing money vs actually living side by side everyday for 6 years with the police force and not getting caught

[@popcornistorturedcorn]

He didn't steal money tho

[@TearsOfThem]

@@popcornistorturedcorn that was a good thing tho, his dad covers Light's ass for the most part due to him being an A1 student and son of a cop. So no one thought of him for awhile

[@sirgoofy5612]

@@TearsOfThem yes but his dad being the chief also put him at a disatvantage if he was just able to hack into the police whilst not being the son of the chief i highly doubt him getting caught

[@madtitanoboa462]

@@sirgoofy5612 well light was immature enough to give away his location by killing lind l tailor when he did not have to , he would have never been caught , so yeah minoru was more mature and did not act on his emotiions like light did

[@skull9984]

@@madtitanoboa462 nah light got too cocky even though he’d always be cautious and calculated because he underestimated L. Sure he had some knowledge about L but he wasn’t that familiar with him. After light realized what L was actually capable of and how smart he was, Light made sure to leave no traces behind him and forethought his every move

[@09Drdray]

Minoru isn't smarter, he's wiser.

[@stfu5791]

He's not wiser as well

[@MrBurns-fq2xf]

Wasi Malik light wasn’t that wise. If he was he wouldnt have picked up that book.

[@stfu5791]

@@MrBurns-fq2xf He was wise because he knew that if he didn't pick death note then the shinigami would give it to someone else. So he kept it because it couldn't be in better hands...

[@Legionbass19]

Wasi Malik Light’s hands were arguably the worst, just given how many he was able to kill before being caught. Any normal person would be discovered quickly due to their own stupidity or die by some other means, thus ending the massacre more quickly. Light thinking his hands are best for the notebook is just his enormous ego at work.

[@princessdozie2780]

@@Legionbass19 this is a great point, couldn't word it better

[@NuxTaku]

Batman vs Light was your best video, super hyped for this one 🥰

[@bison7082]

yo nux didn't no you were a fan

[@thefinalantagonist]

I see. A fellow man of culture.

[@MixitMashit]

Praise be to Lord Nuxanor, bringer of memes, and master of flexing!

[@dex2357]

shut up nerd

[@SlothMyMango]

Weren't you CANCELLED???

[@da_pikmin_coder8367]

The first time I read it, I didn't understand why he waited so long to initiate his plan. It took me until now to realize that he wanted to be old enough to start a bank account first.

[@あき-h6u]

Gotta be financially smart

[@dannihollingsworth7243]

LMAO I’ve been wondering

[@masodemic4509]

I love this guy lmaoo

[@marccrookedarm5020]

This story seems like a gambler’s parable to me. “Who’s smarter? Someone who learns how to score on an impossible game or someone who knows not playing is the only way to win it?”

[@blahblah3726]

except he still lost

[@dragonlord1935]

That's the point. Once you pick up the Death Note it ends up being your own death someday. It doesn't matter if you play the game or not. You are dead either way.

[@HarshDude126]

Fighting people head-on is more impressive than hiding in your bedroom.

[@BY-sh6gt]

Nice thought

[@navia810]

@@dragonlord1935 dude didnt even "pick it up" tho. ryuk literally hit him on the head with it

[@lunaproc4913]

Light was more academically smart and definitely smarter than Minoru but I think Minoru just understood what people would want and used that to his advantage. He’s more street-smart.

[@Aikadou]

Light had a god complex that was his problem

[@mrbelarabi6062]

@Mellonimal Light is m'y favorite But They both good to

[@Username-1939t9]

when the characters you are trying to compare are that smart it really just depends on the author's word at that point. there are millions of ways you could explain for each side that it really doesn't matter. plus if your comparing who would 'win' it's even more pointless because luck will always be a factor

[@omnialecita6276]

@@Username-1939t9 Also being God of the new world is more difficult than sell the death note

[@Username-1939t9]

@@omnialecita6276 i mean all that says is that one didn't care all that much. i doesn't really say anything about intelligence

[@4nnias]

Light was smart like a chess player while A-Kira is smart like a quiz taker. They had different goals

[@mynamesjustmaxwell6814]

IB vs AP

[@srikausthubhah1729]

(Light topped all his exams)

[@fork-man]

Light was a guy who came across a problem and solved it with ease This kid when he had a problem he needs time to find the solution even for problems that aren't there

[@msnjenger]

@@mynamesjustmaxwell6814 Could you explain those two terms?

[@mynamesjustmaxwell6814]

@@msnjenger International Baccalaureate and Advanced Placement are two types of classes in American Secondary school whoch students who are academically "advanced" often choode between. AP capitalizes on your ability to take tests, logically problem solve etc. IB focuses has a more creativity/socialy aware-based international curriculum

[@eddyjosecruz2581]

All I gotta say is RIP to Minoru. He made everyone rich.

[@ElSalvadortortilla]

I-

[@KaziKami]

I-

[@KazeelBaYz]

I-

[@yourshizun5737]

I-

[@theshnock4742]

l-

[@tsukimaru131]

I loved the progression of the one shot, but hated the "ass-pull" ending, however I understand why the Shinigami King would've placed that rule.

[@ivanhernandez8070]

Yeah I agree that kinda pissed me off. If he was gonna implement that rule it shouldn’t have applied to Minoru, just anyone afterward who tried to sell/buy it.

[@kevinyateman8609]

He has reverse plot armour

[@sb-lx2dt]

I myself don’t understand the reason for making that rule. Light got away with much worse than just selling the thing, and everyone knew that there was a “power of Kira” that allowed him to kill for a distance.

[@mcjethrodelacruz6406]

i have theory that it is a canon rule, probably they would pick up from this if they would make another series.

[@gunplamaniac8500]

@@ivanhernandez8070 the rule didn't affect Minoru, Ryuk wrote Minoru's name on the Death Note. (that's the one that killed him)

[@JJ4628]

Minoru: -Didn´t use the Death Note -Had Ryuk as his loyal servant -Didn´t fight L -Didn´t had to deal with other people who knew he was Kira -Had the knowledge of what the previous Kira did -High IQ because of a test, regular in everything else Light: -Use the Death Note for years to become a God -Ryuk didn´t help at all with important things -Had L after him and then mini L and blondie after him -Had to make sure Misa didn´t ruin everything -No previous knowledge of anything -Smart and skilled in pretty much everything Fans: Dude, I think Minoru was smarter! Seriously?

[@ashleymartinez9204]

Lmaooo "mini L and blondie"

[@morgoth8573]

Kira and L. They are still the true Mainprora/antagonists.

[@yuutootosaki4327]

Ryuk helped light a little bit by telling him there’s cameras and wiretaps in his house.

[@yamete_kudasai6969]

@@yuutootosaki4327 just once cause light offered apples. and anyways light would be cautious and find it out himself. while ryuk was like a pet to minoru and helped him with everything cause he wanted to see what happens next

[@RenaldyCalixte]

@@ashleymartinez9204 All Light fan boys disrespecting Near and Mello. If Light was so great why did Mello steal the Death Note from under Light's nose and then lose track of Takada?

[@Imseb1k]

When L died, we knew the end was Near

[@LouisianaBurns]

Badm ts

[@fullmoon1139]

Unoriginal

[@FlynnMegaTensei]

bruh

[@houseofmatrix6174]

Great pun I hated Near Mellow was awesome

[@shaquezr.9541]

*slow claps*

[@jaeden...]

Light: *wants to change the world and become god* Minoru: *wants to become rich*

[@keziabenny1029]

And make others rich

[@qtaro-7097]

like the other comment said ps5 aint gonna but itself

[@Sushipapi.]

Minoru wanted that clout.

[@sebas8225]

Minoru was a genius

[@syntax2004]

Minoru simply cover his track to avoid detection, all those filthy rich just a huge smoke bomb set by him.

[@Grayson-Winchester]

He doesn't need to be smart as light or L he was himself. His end was tragic.

[@campkira]

not really..... he just normal who used it for money and not surprise he died at the end for nothing...

[@LelouchOnTwi]

@@campkira I really liked the character, maybe if the one shot had an alternative story, we could have followed him and see what he could've done differently from Light. One that wasnt so focused on being a god like being, and more of vigilante role who played it safe but would further get caught up in more dangerous situations.

[@ChannelChingCong]

I was really disappointed with the ending

[@Whissya]

tbh everyone was dissapointed with ending death note end sucked and now this aint good either they should make series for this maybe a anime movie for one-shot but extended

[@nicokrasnow1851]

His death was undeserved.

[@YusukeQs]

Ryuk: “Ahhh shit here we go again”

[@jonseon5952]

*Near

[@ExplosiveLandmine]

ryuk purposely did this shit for apples

[@Evolve_-]

100KTONS fr bruh💀💀💀💀

[@malz5596]

Can imagine his saying that rn

[@falkovon9135]

Minoru lost because of a cop-out rule he didn't even know.

[@ThatZillaGuy2]

It wasn't only a cop-out. It was a completely new rule given by the Shinigami King, in response to Minoru selling the Death Note. In addition, Ryuk is Ruyk and didn't care to tell Minoru of the new rule before writing his name down.

[@louvel407]

@@ThatZillaGuy2 If Minoru hadn't told Ryuk to never come see him, he would've warned him about the rule or try something to keep things interesting. Minoru specifically ordered Ryuk to keep his word and never meet each other again. Except it eventually backfired on him.

[@ThatZillaGuy2]

True. Ryuk didn't really have to follow Minoru's orders though. He sure didn't follow Light's orders in the manga when ordered to kill Near and the other task force members. I do like the fact that Minoru's orders did backfire, making Ryuk reflect that the Death Note does indeed curse its owners with misery, even if they don't write a single name down.

[@siddharthraykar9476]

ThatZillaGuy2 The difference was that Ryuk realized when light ordered him to kill Near that Light has lost. The game was over. Minoru lost because he didn’t have any drive. Because his goal was, like him, extremely lazy. As a result, he shunned Ryuk once he believed his job was done.

[@alinastanescu4430]

@@siddharthraykar9476 Yes,if Minoru knew about the rule he wouldn't physicly touch the money, he would probabably buy stuff online with it

[@ianchrist9372]

He literally outsmarted the shinigami and there rules of the Death Note, outsmarted them so bad they changed to rules so they could kill him

[@zhulimoon46]

YEAH RIGHT??

[@sure1994]

yep, i think cant compare old and new kira both were too smart but different circumstances

[@llVIU]

smarter than the shinigami king... he got butthurt. I thought I hated misa the most but I got a new most hated character... the death god. Sore loser.

[@vdvdvfvrvr4694]

what bullshite bro he was such a good character

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

@@llVIU Nah, he was epic

[@mynamesjustmaxwell6814]

The fact that Misa Amane isn't in this is basically canonical confirmation that she's dead

[@Tpm12luv]

She was on the edge of a building. Do you think she was there just for the view?

[@hotbombbb]

That's the anime not in the manga tho

[@kunalmittal9938]

What do you think she crossed the fence of a terrace for a walk😂

[@ctts9946]

Kunal Mittal yeah😔. .. She sung I believe I can fly , so I believed it

[@BlackEyedJester]

​@@hotbombbb It is mentioned briefly in "13: How to Read." iirc I think Ohba said something along the lines of "She lost her memories of the notebook, but kept her love for Light, eventually someone, probably Matsuda let it slip that Light died and so she kills herself on Valentines Day that year"

[@SethTheProgrammer]

Chase a bag. Looking back on this, I think I did a perfectly fine job on the topic. However I would've liked to bring up more extra content in the BB Novel and some more from LCTW. Like, "L at 8 years old did something even most detectives on the planet couldn't," or "L is the equivalent of numerous bureaus put together" I didn't bring those up here, but I DID already bring them up in Batman VS Kira, which I put in the description.

[@realcasherrr1074]

SethTheProgrammer don’t worry about what I’m doing

[@edmarker8373]

Yo Seth love the vids bro! Keep them coming! 🤔Top 9 Naruto characters for the T.O.P.? And how do you think they will fare?

[@status7505]

Ballsack

[@status7505]

Typo

[@edmarker8373]

@@mazeluchi9508 if you are pretty knowledgeable of Naruto characters, it's not hard to pick 9 characters who could last in the T.O.P. especially with some of the hax in Naruto. Considering the fact off-guard characters in DBS get bodied.

[@RadicalGaming1000]

Ryuk: The buyer and seller will both die Minoru: Hold up wtf?

[@campkira]

well... Ryuk killed him..... not the rule itself... Got feel He write it down by himself....

[@RadicalGaming1000]

Yeah he wrote his name the same way he did Light. The comment was what his reaction would've been if Ryuk told him

[@commandixnostalgia2321]

Actually,the Shinigami King MADE that new rule. Not Ryuk. Ryuk didn't want to tell Minoru about the new rule the Shinigami King made. Minoru told Ryuk to never come back,so he killed Minoru.

[@Romandy13]

I think the reason why Near wasn't as invested in catching A-Kira is simply because Minoru never killed anyone. That means that Minoru isn't a criminal and Near doesn't have any legal reason to pursue him. Unless of course the entire world made a law making it illegal to own a Death Note, which for some reason isn't a thing in this fictional world yet.

[@meteora854]

Even if near is as invested with the case as ever, it's still impossible to catch minoru. It's near's L.

[@wantokwok8160]

Light did not do one time crime like Minoru. It's almost impossible to capture Light without knowing about deathnote. L had got many clues and chances are because Light want to challenge L. In fact they directly challenge one another. (Light basically said Yo L: "catch me if you can", and L directly said to Kira: "Kill me if you can"). Edit: After L challenge Kira, Light's goal is not only put fear and kill criminals, but also to kill L (without sacrificing his life span by using shinigami eyes). That's why, we can't compare Minoru with Light in terms of intelligence because their objectives are different (And why Minoru's chapter is shorter)

[@ElvisB.]

Imagine if the shinigami king is actually Light now and is just salty hahaha.

[@ReallyPhilly215]

Lmfao yo that could be so true lol

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

no light is a low level shinigami

[@elmina9403]

@@-schattenpflanze-3755 Light is not a shinigami. He's not the Shinigami that talks to Ryuk in that special episode. He's just dead.

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

@@elmina9403 so hes the embodiment of death? so he is the shinagami king

[@elmina9403]

@@-schattenpflanze-3755 Lol, good joke. Jokes aside, he's literally dead. As in, he was killed. He passed away.

[@nateiwakura1075]

Minoru won but the refs weren't having it smh

[@montelcm8444]

dg natee lol facts

[@CampaignerSC]

He really thought that DEATH GODS wouldn't care that he was throwing subtlety out the window? If he heard Light's story then he would know that Ryuk isn't the only shinigami.

[@yamikagevg7841]

So true

[@azvr8997]

Ryuk: [gives death note to Minoru] Minoru: [sells death note for big stash of money] Shinigami King: *you weren’t supposed to do that*

[@almansoori8876]

i can't-

[@llVIU]

"doesn't say that in the rule-" death god: now it does, aaaand you're dead.

[@resasuke8917]

why this comentery

[@dickmaker5405]

what if shinigami king was light and he got salty abt it

[@xilentjay4298]

@@almansoori8876 then don’t

[@twinklepickles]

if people really say minoru is smarter, they’re forgetting the mind games with L

[@miadhasan9089]

💯💯

[@andrewmoulton7429]

L knew it was light the whole time lol he just couldn’t prove it

[@nosoyjoseluis6155]

minoru was just more practical

[@yungblade7]

@Cactuss yessir he failed at the 4 note test in the resturant

[@shyamk1103]

@@andrewmoulton7429 L was looking for proof to checkmate light. Light was trying to checkmate L by proving him and misa to be innocents and kill L. And as the result, Light won. Iam not saying light is smarter than L. It's true that light had an upper hand because of rem helping him but light had his disadvantages too. we can say light was almost as smart as L or he might smarter than L. It's hard to say who is smarter but one thing is for sure, both of them have almost equal intelligence.

[@chronenojysk5107]

Death Note Owner: *Gives the Death note to anybody with no boundaries* Shinigami King: :0 Holy shit this is gooooooood!!!!! Death Owner: *Sells the Death Note* Shinigami King: I suddenly have "Standards" now. >:(

[@kohaiame2691]

I think he was just pissed off at Ryuk for going back to the human world again. The first time probably caused a lot of trouble between the two worlds, and he didn't want Ryuk staying too long. He requested Ryuk to come back quickly once he's no longer following minoru, but then minoru sold the death note. At that point the shinigami king probably just said "F***! We really need to add some more boundaries!"

[@nou8968]

the king of the shinigami got angry because the humans put the death note according to the market rules, and the only thing that governs the death note is supposed to be the rules set by the king of the Shinigami

[@sunfish9996]

I got attached very fast...

[@weebisherror5110]

H.Iwaizumi0610 feels bad

[@sefisyara5961]

There is nothing bad with coming to human world. There is even Death Note rule that says, there may be only 6 shinigamis at the time. Also one shinigamu can only lend 3 notebooks at once. Also one human can have only 6 books at once.

[@Shokan-mm8sj]

I didn't like the ending, i thought it was bullshit, his plan was perfect, what happened was merely made for shock value.

[@titan133760]

I didn't like the ending, but for me it was kind of to be expected

[@yorgiP]

I didn’t like the ending either, but it just further shows anyone who works with the Death Note is destined to fail at some point

[@titan133760]

@@yorgiP Ryuk himself did say in the ending that only suffering awaits for those who use the Death Note

[@nickieovien1807]

yorgi Nah man this guy was succeeding in everything I would actually would’ve liked if he won even tho I knew what he was going to lose.

[@alfa01spotivo]

it was to show the curse of the death note and its unfairness and how shinigami always win. It was great

[@Sir_Slimbread]

There's no denying that Minoru is smarter than any normal person, but nowhere near as smart as Light. If Minoru lived as a long as Light he might of been smarter, or at least as smart as him, but we'll never know.

[@davidliu4134]

It doesn't really matter because he had different goals regarding the notebook. Technically, his plan was perfect. His only mistake(arguably) was not worrying about what the shinigami up there would react to his plan.

[@zerothz7711]

but nowhere NEAR smart...get it?...yeah?...

[@Tupadre97]

Eh I doubt it. His plan wasn't even all that smart. All he did was try and game the system and try and make money off of it but he fucked around with the wrong beings. He was ultimately too young and immature to think of the consequences of trying to profit off of not using the death note and apparently that's the one taboo the Shinigami King just simply couldn't let slide. Had he been more mature he might have been able to think ahead to that point but he couldn't, oh well.

[@Sir_Slimbread]

@@Tupadre97 I mean there was no way I'd think of that plan. I don't know for sure he would become smarter than Light, but he is at least smarter than any of us 😅

[@joem.5536]

@P At the time there were literally no consequences. He thought everything through, and his plan went perfectly. The Shinigami King adding in a rule specifically because of what Minoru did was something no one could have predicted.

[@miiks...5...3...9...]

Minoru's plan however was literally unbeatable. That said Light and Minoru did use the book in completely different ways so a real comparison is impossible. How would Light have sold it? Hiw would Minoru have used it to kill? That's what we would need to know to comparw the two. That said for his specific goal Minoru did create a better plan.

[@redrobins731]

Oni Master Lol what? If anything, playing it safe only reinforces how smart Minoru was. He didn’t take needless risks, because he had a specific goal and went about it in the most pragmatic way possible. Being more idealistic doesn’t make you more intelligent. Not to mention Minoru lives in a world under far more surveillance than when Light was alive.

[@zushi5798]

@@redrobins731 To be fair to Light, he is the first ever recorded death note wielder. Minoru already had the gist that his death is probable because Kira (Light) died.

[@kenkaneki9241]

@@LS-qs9ju And minoru was Lucky cuz L was already dead.

[@wschippr1]

@@zushi5798 My thing with Light is that he should've won. Like being able to kill via death note in real life would be untraceable. If he just didn't engage with the investigation he would never have been caught. Even in today's world that would be the case.i know that's the point, that it's his pride that causes his down fall, but it does demonstrate a clear sign of intellectual failing.

[@yeagerist149]

@@redrobins731 light is still smarter he only lost cause he got too caught up in his ego

[@shinobu5948]

He might be a genius but he wasn’t pulling 100000IQ moves like Light

[@iristit5841]

Truueee

[@animewarriors487]

😂😂😂

[@kozuki8071]

Kanye West12345 facts

[@izrael820]

To be fair he didn't need to

[@2e-libronroxxanevirgie344]

HAHAHAHAHA truee

[@tanaymalikk]

A really under rated Protagonist tbh who didnt deserve to die

[@userK77920]

Ikr

[@joesubel]

Minoru found a way to cheat the system and got punished heavily for it, he got done dirty tbh. Reminds me of a video in youtube about Terraria, a game that actually rewards the players for finding out ways to exploit the system instead of punishing them like the Shinigami king did to Minoru.

[@brandonmichaud8047]

Light is smarter but he’s a Virgin. “I wanna become god of the new world” Minoru is a Chad just trying to make fat stacks.

[@bigboss6145]

Youre not wrong.

[@weed3728]

Brandon Michaud trying to make fat stacks which led to his demise

[@AokaSenpai]

Light was a womanizer

[@artyomalekseyevich5927]

@@AokaSenpai Yeah, if anything Minoru seemed like the virgin, although I don't understand how that matters.

[@tristan9539]

Light had bishhes at his feet tho

[@cancerdude_2207]

Light in the shinigami realm be like: Its all going according to plan

[@adear2756]

All according to keikaku.

[@lightninghelmet2798]

Translators note: Keikaku means plan.

[@absolutenothing7094]

"kata....keikaku doori"

[@Skagb0y]

wouldn't Minoru technically be able to go to heaven or hell seeing as he didn't use the death note?

[@sharpy4204]

Ryuk revealed at the end of death note manga that heaven and hell dont exist and that people end up in the same place when they die - nothingness

[@Skagb0y]

sibirski plavac thats much better. Thank you 😋💯

[@cyruszarif1730]

despite this a question Ryuk posed in the manga was this "everyone who uses the death note suffers in the end" but Minoru used to death note so would he suffer? originally it seemed not as he had never written in it. but as it ended using the death note in any capacity only brings suffering and sadness

[@sharpy4204]

@shin jinyi Light appearing in death parade was more like an easter egg or a cameo ,it doesnt mean its canon to the story and they never confirmed that it was really Light Yagami

[@Anonima-bh7ve]

Ryuk and Light explained that it doesn't have anything to do with the fact of being a death note user or not, but rather that everyone goes to nothingness after dying. I think that is also explained in a how to use section in the manga (I didn't watch the anime yet) that there is where humans go after passing away. Basically in the worls of Death Note, heaven and hell don't exist and neither does God.

[@dopehub5875]

Minoru is so Smart That he made Shinigami king so pissed off that he changed the rules in order to kill him just because HE HAD TOUCHED THAT DAMN BOOK.

[@yamete_kudasai6969]

but light was so smart that he hid his identity for 6 years until the one who he trusted did something dumb and messed up everything

[@RenaldyCalixte]

@@yamete_kudasai6969 Um....Near and Mello knew Light was Kira and the entire Kira task force suspected Light was guilty but had no evidence to prove it. Also Mikami needed to mess up in order for Light to lose cuz....SPOILER ALERT....that's how all bad guys lose.

[@rajatchaudhary7906]

Dope Hub well Light just kill a shinigami..

[@dopehub5875]

@@rajatchaudhary7906 damn boy you're right...........

[@chantallehartlova7129]

Minoru sold a book, omg what a fkin genius he is. It takes 900 IQ to do such achievement

[@princevegeta1767]

MINORU: I will take a death note.... AND SELL IT!!!

[@campkira]

and new rule.. buyer and seller will died......

[@acreature5200]

Ay nice one

[@Ihavenomorestockpotrecipesplea]

Shinigami King: Nothing personal, kid.

[@somerandomguy3768]

Shinigami king: ill make a new rule... AND WRITE IT

[@subscribefornoreason3879]

Light: I will eat a potato chip and EAT IT

[@ODSTxGundam]

My boy got cheated, you can't make a rule after the action is set and punish him for it

[@zhulimoon46]

IKR

[@akabaneaki]

Right?! at least make it a rule BEFORE he plans anything?! Its like u plan sth 80% in and suddenly your boss be putting it a rule that sabotages your project without telling u which gave u false hope your project would end perfect, only to have it fucked up badly in the end. omg the frustration

[@zhulimoon46]

@@akabaneaki right??

[@Amari6336]

To be fair, the Shinigami King is probably tired of all these death notes being passed around behind his back and taken advantage of so he probably said well fuck all this shit lol

[@zhulimoon46]

@@Amari6336 But changing the rules after the deed was done is dirty. Like, he could have put the rules still but not apply it to Minoru like wtf

[@ЛанаДимић]

Im here to say that Minoru wont be able to replace Light✌🏻

[@quandaledingle3739]

No one will ever be able to replace Light

[@johncena-qe5to]

@@quandaledingle3739 Evil or not, Death Note on Light’s hand was at its best.

[@George-jc3mt]

He doesn’t need to as far as he follows the law it’s universe and he is an interesting character

[@mrbelarabi6062]

No shit

[@youtoawesome4153]

L and light will NEVER be replaced

[@bogita2115]

He may not have had as much knowledge as Light but he was definitely wiser because Light could have avoided the situation with L but chose to play the “game” while Minora knew he couldn’t get away with everything Light did and chose to use the death note in another way.

[@fuhdge7440]

Minoru also had a different sense of morality. He didn't consider himself to be above others

[@xlxl4700]

I think Light was more of a smart man that learns from his mistakes and Minoru was a wise man who learns from the mistakes of others

[@hypernova4725]

This

[@TheOverlordEND]

Light is tactic, he made move and adapt along with his enemies strategy and tactic. Minoru is strategy, he made move before the war even started and has decided the outcome of the war.

[@aerousz8623]

Wtf, I thought you only comment on vs debates lol

[@TheOverlordEND]

@@aerousz8623 Not really, I'm pretty much Omnipresent and only manifest myself whenever I want to say something, not limited to Vs match.

[@aerousz8623]

@@TheOverlordEND ig lol

[@loregasmic]

Near lost because he didn't have the real L to figure out everything for him already like he did last time.

[@ソナタ月光]

Even if it's L that we are talking about here how could you find minoru? There is litteraly million of people who got 1 billion yen and even if you found minoru you can't even arrest him because he didn't kill anyone

[@mezmer6612]

Yh nobody would of found out who minoru was no one. Unless they wanted to torture millions of people but.....that would not go down well.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

ソナタ月光 That makes no sense

[@ソナタ月光]

@@angelmendez-rivera351 What part of it that doesn't make sense?

[@loregasmic]

@Rick Alexander Near said it himself that he lost, are YOU stupid? You clearly can't read and you type like a walrus on crack.

[@CHRONOTHEMANGAKA]

One thing that stood out was: if you don't use the death note, or do not follow it's rules, the Shinigami King will add new rules in, to screw you over.

[@stormyyamada5903]

Bruh this just shows they don't give a fuck and do this for fun...

[@crymsondynaguy]

"Near isn't NEARLY as invested in A-Kira" Impressive........most impressive.

[@titan133760]

That's because he can see that the Death Note wasn't technically being used for illegal methods that time

[@tharunbala7783]

DeLEET Titan lol u don’t get it

[@Aaditri44]

He's not smarter but he played it so damn good and didn't kill anyone, Light is the iconic psycho b that we all know but for a medium student what he did was really interesting to read, can't deny

[@fleskhjertafan93]

Light is definitely smarter, Minoru seems more pragmatic. Technically he won the shinigami king just got salty about the situation and changed the rules.

[@userK77920]

The shinigami king got alot of salt

[@GhostofTheUchiha22]

If Minoru would have just checked to see if selling the note was a rule he wouldn't have died

[@PaintedLive]

Be honest. *You didn't expect this video, but your happy to see it.* edit: For those who don't use twitter.

[@platinumorange1034]

Lol

[@HaaaTayo]

You're

[@HaaaTayo]

@The-X-Territory That, my friend, is a well constructed sentence.

[@ziggibear1920]

I mean it was kinda to be expected. Plus he revealed it on Twitter.

[@PaintedLive]

@@HaaaTayo i refuse to correct my mistake

[@soraceant]

I'm just glad someone admits that light could have won if it wasn't for his stupid ego.

[@campkira]

well they had to make fun story....

[@MishimaTyler]

Well even serial killers leave clue because they like the manipulation of people trying to catch them

[@sharadiyasarkar5891]

Light wouldn't be Light without his stupid ego. This is ego is what drove him to do what he did for the entirety of the series. The reason why Near defeated him was because unlike Light he had no ego or any desire to compete for dominance.

[@SycosenMerihem]

Don't forget that he was Critically Insane.

[@vNill]

Light lost cause mikami fucked up his plan, mello facilitated things for near by kidnapping the reporter, forcing mikami to use the book and then steal it, it wasn't his ego.

[@amymusa2]

"No matter how you use that power no happiness would come from it"-Light Yagami's dad..

[@GameGeekRob]

I think Minoru's words at the beginning of the story reveal that he's actually quite smart. Truly smart individuals use their intellect to solve problems of the future, as in societal problems. Light solved some problems, but he also created quite a few as well. Minoru was able to create an economic boon for Japan. Also, just a hunch, but his seeming apathy towards the bidding process made me feel like he knew how things were going to shakedown. The fact that he obviously didn't want anyone to die makes me further believe that he knew whoever won wouldn't be able to use the Death Note in any case. Maybe Ryuk was entirely upfront with his recalling of Light's story, including the machinations and underhandedness of Shinigami. Maybe this tipped Minoru off that there was a possibility for a bad end.

[@lightyagami2978]

I feel satisfied near being defeated by a newbie... So satisfied!

[@ekon.murry.5143]

I was feeling the same... Fk Near

[@lightyagami2978]

@@someoneelse5209 I stopped reading after 'near claimed defeat'

[@treceslez]

Near wasn't defeated because he wasn't even playing the game to begin with.

[@dem5296]

@@lightyagami2978 where can i read this?

[@hesally2343]

near never lost near simply didnt interfere becuz he lives in america and doesnt want the president on him

[@ireupzz4233]

It’s crazy how anyone can down play light like the man still would’ve won if it was only him vs Near and even when Mello came in Light was still going to win if Mikami didn’t fuck up just think about that for a second

[@knteka]

One could argue light trusting Mikami was a mistake on lights part and therefore the reason he lost

[@elmina9403]

In the manga Matsuda suggests that Near manipulated Mikami writing his name in the real Death Note, cause after Light's death Mikami was incarcerated and then died a few days after. I don't know why Light's whole death scene was changed in the Anime.

[@ireupzz4233]

knteka Makami was the perfect candidate he thought just like “Kira”. Trusting him was no mistake not even Light would expect him to make a stupid mistake like he did Light specifically told him not to act no matter what on your own and Mikami didn’t listen.

[@ireupzz4233]

El Mina It’s not even possible to affect Mikami because he has the shinigami eyes so no Near didn’t use the deathnote to control him even if he tried it wouldn’t have worked so Matsuda’s theory even in the manga would be false.

[@elmina9403]

@@ireupzz4233 As far as I remember, it's never stated that if you have Shinigami eyes you are immune to the Death Note's power. Can you link me the chapter where it's stated?

[@demakarova]

tanaka gives me Tiktok f-boy vibes with his undercut and perm😭😭😭😭

[@boa9557]

True

[@yungblade7]

Lmfaoo!

[@KaziKami]

Truueee

[@kathhqq7]

He looks like he’s trying to get into a Kpop group lol

[@fBOMBB]

I don't think that's a perm, I think he just has curly hair

[@Thetopnoobpro]

Misa: I cant imagine a world without light L; yes that would be very dark Love the Subtle foreshadowing in those lines

[@kmations4049]

hate to be that guy but *subtle

[@Thetopnoobpro]

@@kmations4049 thank you

[@logoat12]

Just gotta say: Death Note is a perfectly made masterpiece

[@kohaiame2691]

So is like 2 am over here, and my tired eyes read your comment as "Death Note...is 'not' a perfe-..." I was about to ask what was wrong with it.

[@TotalTech_]

After L died it wasn't as good

[@vNill]

@@TotalTech_ agree l wanted to see a light vs L face off, not some annoying little kid

[@navia810]

they shouldve ended it when L died. near and mello suck ass

[@AsphodeliaAlter]

I've never heard a single other person talk about it, but isn't there actually quite a large plot hole in the bus jacking episode with Raye? After it happens Raye asks Light not to tell anyone that he saw an FBI agent in Japan. Light responds : "I won't tell anyone, including my father". Light never mentions to Raye that his father is a police officer before this, his assumption that Raye knows Light's father's occupation bluntly gives away the fact that Light knows Raye is specifically following him.

[@The300Player]

He might not be as smart as Light but he was still smart af, the fact that the Shinigami king had to intervene is really crazy

[@BlackEyedJester]

The Shinigami king didn't HAVE to intervene, it was more so a "Ryuk, the fuck? Don't do that" and made a rule preventing such a thing from happening again.

[@tylerlackey1175]

I'd imagine hes done that before, making new rules for the death note. Cause there's no way it started out as 3 trillion rules, so someone or a shinigami had to have done some whack shit that caused more rules to be written

[@sgcastle8389]

@@tylerlackey1175 yeah when you think about it, shinigamis use death note to get lifetime if the Death become a government weapon, or more death note are sold they would be billions of life that shinigamis won't collect

[@JotakuJo]

@@sgcastle8389 Agreed, this is why the Shinigami King had to make the rule, what's the point of a death god when a government is secretly killing everyone without a fear of retaliation? World leaders could die in an accident or have a virus, no one would think it be the USA. When a powerful person is given a deathnote, it undermines the authority of the Shinigami King. If humans had a deathnote and never used it to kill, it defears the purpose of the deathnote.

[@yiohan9574]

@@JotakuJo everyone would think it's USA and everyone would war against it

[@averypennington1506]

Light’s plan was far more complex and ambitious in design, and he had to do a lot more thinking on his feet than Minoru.

[@averypennington1506]

@Happy Rambutan Shonen Jump’s site/app has it, but idk if it’s free to read anymore. It used to be!

[@archimidiz]

Light's plan was unnecessarily complex. Minoru simply avoided all that and took the most optimal route.

[@AdarshKumar-kd9yg]

@@archimidiz he was able to took that step coz he had option he used kira's fear as. a bait to sell it but light didn't had that option he himself had to create the fear of kira Whereas he had to face L and minoru faced near which is only one side of L

[@ShoSho-cq7ct]

@@archimidiz define "unnecessarily complex"?

[@TheTyper98]

@@ShoSho-cq7ctTo late but Fnaf Lore

[@watashiwa7623]

I dont know. I kinda loved light's ego.

[@Starkill3r306]

Akira: Gets server kicked by the Shinigami King Light: Gets caught because of his pride :l

[@kmations4049]

akira?

[@Alex-tx5ku]

@@kmations4049 Minoru is called A-kira in the one-shot chapter

[@kmations4049]

@@Alex-tx5ku i see

[@JonaD757]

Great analysis, I really enjoyed the One-shot, was good to just see the universe explored again. Minoru is brilliant in his own right, and thinks up a few great ideas, but I wouldn't really compare that to all the insane things that Light had to overcome. Their ideals also require very different levels of intellect. Minoru just wanted to live an easy life and make some cash without any risk to himself. While Light wanted to be recognized as a "god" and change the entire world, and despite him dying in the end, he practically achieves his goal anyway. Light aimed much higher, achieved much more, but took way more risks because of his hubris, but he was able to get out of some insanely tight corners. Minoru plays things safe and was able to piss off the Shinigami King to change the rules, which I did find amusing, and his most impressive feat, but in the end they both die and Ryuk is the true winner. Maybe if Minoru was around for longer he could have proved himself, but from what we got in the One-shot Light proves smarter than him.

[@titan133760]

Also, unlike Light, Minoru knew when to stop

[@capnbarky2682]

Minoru seems to be extremely smart, he thinks through his situation and the dynamics and comes up with an almost foolproof plan that just gets thrown out the window because of a literal act of god. But it's hard to compare Light and Minoru because Light makes it his goal to show us, the world, how smart he is, he's like a boxer climbing the ranks by fighting the strongest (smartest) he can find, while Minoru is focused on having his plan come to fruition. Their goals are completely different as well, Kira is trying to create an old testament world where evil is always punished but Minoru doesn't try anything that complex.

[@youfirst6611]

It think this argument is like comparing apples to oranges. Light and Minoru are both geniuses. But how they used the death note imply their rules of engagement. Light openly draws out a conflict due to his hubris and gives the opposition an opportunity to counteract him hence the story we know and love. Minoru analyses the world and how it operates to come up with a way to Accomplish his goal as fast as possible. Giving his opposition no time to counter him.

[@youfirst6611]

Also it’s not fair to keep the “smartest middle schooler” angle because the implications of the statement was to highlight that he doesn’t know enough about the world to accurately orchestrate his plan. He probably had a general idea of what he wanted to do but not how to do it. So after the time skip when he better understands that world he’s much more capable.

[@motoharumotoharu]

Minoru is not as smart as Light. Light is able to put several steps ahead to further his goal, to build his utopia, is willing to defend it against any threat, and has no hesitation to execute his plan. Light also able to adjust his plan to any given situation, making him much more dangerous than Minoru. Minoru, on the other hand, takes 2 whole years to build this plan. Yes, Minoru's plan managed to outwit even Near, but that's because it doesn't involve using the Death Note to its full potential. But Minoru's move is not to be underestimated. With just one single move, selling the Death Note world wide, and sharing the benefit to the Japanese citizens equally, he managed to accomplish 2 goals: 1. Ressurect Kira's existence once more 2. Re-ignite the idea that Kira is God, and regain the full support from the public And he's done those without Near being able to even probe him, let alone investigate him. That simple gesture really set things up for the future generations of Kira, if it was already in their plan to publish.

[@horassiregar1720]

The thing is Minoru doesn't have God complex.

[@yeagerist149]

@@horassiregar1720 I know someone who does

[@lycoris4875]

@@yeagerist149 LOL

[@yeagerist149]

Aka me god himself

[@fuhdge7440]

It didn't take him 2 years to come up with a plan. He needed 2 years so that he was old enough to make a bank account

[@dianrahayuningsih8084]

I need a multi universe story when light, L, Misa, Minoru, and Near work together to destroy shinigami world

[@cruelfate4060]

remove misa she ain't smart,instead it should be mello and mikami

[@sameatspants4615]

You can’t kill a Death God, how would you destroy the shinigami world?

[@nah_.]

Why? That's a weird combination and an even weirder goal

[@kalki.schizo]

Bruh are you Misa's brother? You both are dumb.

[@1eye1tear95]

That makes no sense

[@blewhew]

L and Light lost for the same reason: "They're both childish and hate to lose". Mello had a similar ego. Near had no real ego. Near treated the case as a problem to be solved whereas L treated it more like a game. Near knew how to take losses in his stride and minimize costs while still moving toward a clear outcome. Both Near and Minoru were practically and reasoning without personal involvement. Minoru won in my opinion. He might not have had light's knowledge or resources but he had a personal goal and clear practical steps of achieving it. I hated the ending of his story so much.

[@MOOBBreezy]

No, the kid was not smarter, it was literally just the kid bossing Ryuk around (which would have never happened in the original)

[@dealphawolf]

Aaron Bell Light bossed Ryuk around plenty in the original.

[@nickelakon5369]

@@dealphawolf Ryuk followed light because he was interested in what he was doing. If he didn't find Light intriguing he wouldn't have taken that.

[@dealphawolf]

Nick Elakon true. you can make an argument that that would be the same in this case. This kid had all the right stuff to be great and though it was short lived, Ryuk was entertained and interested in his plan as well

[@joseguardiola3785]

It was a trade for apples no different than when Ryun found all of the hidden apples in lights room so that he could start feeding him again

[@mattheoskorreshi3333]

It's a kid playing safe in an era where it is pretty much impossible to escape from the police once you are under their radar. And he didn't have any intention on using the notebook, so he and Ryuk just got what they wanted.

[@idkwydm]

Its so weird finally hearing about Death Note after awhile,but i’m hyped for a comeback.

[@isabellacarrillo6461]

“Is Minoru Tanaka smarter than Light Yagami?” Me: ...N0

[@divyanshlatwal2876]

We shouldn't compare Minoru with Light... Light fought L , Near and Mello all alone.. He tried to make world a better place and due to him crime rates decreased 70% all around the world. Where as Minoru just sold death note for money. We clearly should not think of him as new kira. Kira(Light) was God

[@mazyusscott2005]

your right

[@reylitabiok5650]

He balanced the economy lol, that’s not nothing and he did that without killing anyone

[@redrobins731]

Light didn’t face L, Near, and Mello all alone. He had the help of Misa, Rem, Takada, and Mikimi.

[@mazyusscott2005]

Red Robins yea kinda but he did make it seem like he was solo

[@redrobins731]

Mazyus Scott because he’s an arrogant douchebag lol he had plenty of help

[@loganwestby6487]

Has Seth every addressed or hinted to a video on Light vs Lelouche ?????

[@gr8b8m85]

Lelouche was foiled/figured out multiple times, whereas Light managed to keep up his ruse and avoid detection until the very end with far fewer resources. While Lelouche does have an overall better understanding of human nature and how people work, he would probably lose to Light tbh. If they were to switch places, I have a hard time believing Light wouldn't succeed at Lelouch's goal without dying, but not the other way around.

[@keithkeller4546]

Man I want this now... I wish this was just a real anime lol

[@CardGameForum]

Idk they are different Lelouch specializes in military strategy and acquiring political power, while light’s specializes in manipulating people so they willingly do what he wants (Lelouch has geass so he can “cheat” in this aspect and control anyone he sees for free)

[@ramus93]

@@gr8b8m85 i mean to be fair if they are in very different situations i dont know how light would handle himself in the middle of a war

[@takatotakasui8307]

I can't see a scenario where Light beats Lelouch. Lelouch's ability to see through the minutiae of an opponent's plan surpasses even L's.

[@RogueHero]

Light over everything, I loved the one shot manga tho

[@s4bbamadi]

Can we appreciate Near’s long hair it’s beautiful I am jealous

[@juless.3326]

Yes

[@alisaadler6494]

I’m so obsessed with it🥺

[@wandatherranova4258]

I am obsessed with Near's long hair, i wonder how he takes care of it

[@Jim-pq9pm]

Light giving up ownership of the DT and manipulating himself into becoming genuine friends with L is about as big as it gets.

[@OkRoomer123-]

I doubt any character that the mangaka throws our way will be as BRIGHT as light.....and yes pun very much intended

[@olivermaksimovic7643]

I love intelligent character in anime . I am fine with light but have you heard of Norman from promised Neverland? He is farrrrr farr more intelligent than him . (Read the manga)

[@OkRoomer123-]

Oliver Maksimovic Ik the promised neverland but I was just talking nobody else in Death note can be as intelligent as light not anime in general but thanks bro I was supposed to finish TPN from a long time ago and now you gave me the motivation

[@AndrewManook]

@@olivermaksimovic7643 Ray as well.

[@hanma1705]

For someone who took 2 years to execute his plan without leaving any trace and revealing his identity, sure he is smart.

[@charlessmith7742]

Why are we comparing light to a one shot character lol...

[@GeoCreepypasta]

exactly...

[@era1473]

cause light was a one shot character too

[@guikhgyjv5688]

because why not

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

Charles Smith Because him being a one shot character is irrelevant. Geez, why is the internet full of people who lack common sense?

[@charlessmith7742]

@@angelmendez-rivera351 it's not irrelevant. He literally had a chapter's worth of story and he's being compared to someone who's way more developed than him. What a 13 yrs old insult.

[@kryptonianotaku4975]

Light was playing Impostor that would put any Among Us player to shame

[@justinparker5587]

"I take a chip and eat it" - light yagami

[@deez6804]

**potato chip** you uncultered SWINE

[@justinparker5587]

@@deez6804 light yagami wants to know your name and appearance.

[@deez6804]

@@justinparker5587 Tell him if he's so smart he can find it out himself.

[@Isaac-0.4]

Since when does Light Yagami eat memory Chips?

[@burhancityreal]

"i'll take the note and sell it" -minoru tanaka

[@sanki9552]

I'm just say a plan so perfect that God of death had to cheat.

[@hannahmartinez7216]

There is a key difference between Minoru and Light. While Light outsmarted and evaded some of the smartest individuals in the world, Minoru outsmarted the shinigami king. They even created a new rule to account for his actions.

[@trevorbrookins1118]

@Emperor yes he did you just mad

[@yamete_kudasai6969]

Light would've outsmarted the shinigami king better

[@shubhamgupta-sv2hn]

That was not outsmarting that was just pissing someone off just because you find a loop hole. It's like finding a glitch to kill a boss, just because you find it doesn't mean your the best player or have better understanding of the code that the creator of that game.

[@javierlopez9789]

Well If The Shiningami King it's Like Ryuk and The rest of The shinigamis that doesn't mean much remember that Ryuk also outsmarted the Shiningami King

[@backflipmania1]

He wouldnt have died if he outsmarted the shinigami king, light would had at least considered something like that

[@yanwong9780]

I think people severely underestimate Minoru's smartness by highlighting Light's achievements and stating his lack of help from Ryuk, even though Light had several privileges under his belt. Light was able to achieve so much specifically because of his privileged family life. If his dad was not the a high ranking officer in the police department, he would not have had the skills to murder or avoid capture in the first place. In addition to that, no one knew of the Death Note prior to Light's usage and he was well-respected enough in his community for most people who wholeheartedly trust him and follow his command. It's unsurprising Ryuk wasn't used as help very often in comparison to Minoru. Minoru did not have the luxury of access to the records of people to use the death note, and he was considered to be a commoner in society so he had little to no human support. In addition to that, Minoru himself mentioned that people are a lot more cautious in the post-Kira era and it is also extremely difficult for him to avoid capture due to the new age of internet which Light did not have to live through yet. It's not surprising that he would have to rely on Ryuk. People also fail to realise that Minoru's strategy that he thought in middle school was ultimately undetectable but people could make educated guesses that Light was Kira when he was in high school. Which Kira is smarter? Based on the definition of "learning faster" I would personally say Minoru, but Light himself shows his ability to use his resources to the fullest extent and was able to avoid the police for years despite the occasional mishaps from his own allies. Both plans caused great difficulty for investigators said and greatly impacted people all over the world. To sum it up, it's really hard to tell which of them is smarter because of the vastly different approaches and backgrounds of their life.

[@paulminh3525]

Yeah, smart is just a tool to have help people achieve their specific goals. If one has a personality of ambitious warlords, they will plans and fight out way to make war more favorable. On the other hand, a cocumbine in ancient China must keep themselves alive under the harsh conditions in Imperial Palace from dying. They are not too ambitious, but not dumb enough to displease their higher up. They all have smarts with different life styles, personality, and goals. I think their intellects should have reflect these aspects.

[@mikecane6501]

I think light smarter

[@jerichoex]

The fuck you talking about? Ryuk was a great help to Light time and time again, and that's Ryuk who wanted to be just an "observer" but still violated his own neutral stance to help initiate and set up Light's Plans or protect him from being caught.

[@AruwakEM]

The writers did Light wrong in the end.

[@liamcolbert7876]

It happens to a lot of characters, they get too op but still need to lose so the writers fuck them E.g. madara, light, Dr Doom ect

[@fork-man]

@@liamcolbert7876 i feel like doom gets fuck over the most but madara got it the hardest

[@liamcolbert7876]

@@fork-man Dr Doom: HAHA I have the ultimate power thingy that makes me invincible... wait is that a banana peel *pratfalls*

[@theazureknight9399]

@Emperor L and Near never claimed to be good, and Mello was a freaking mob boss, lol. Death Note isn't about good vs evil, It's about two conflicting ideologies having an epic cat and mouse game. Neither party holds the moral high ground against the other, L is as much of a criminal as Light, he just didn't commit mass murder, just different types of crimes. In the end, i feel like the moral of the story is: no matter how capable you are, or how much influence or special abilities you have, you will never change the status quo. The world will stay the same no matter what, it's Impossible to create an utopia.

[@calmyin7073]

It's true .they did wrong to light just to end the death note

[@squallthegriever]

The fact that L was facing someone in a real life setting who happened to have a magic artifact (book), still gives Light the edge regardless. They live in what would be a real world like us, who would be able to prove that a book killed someone or that supernatural abilities are the reason behind someones death. Despite him facing L and the police...he had the edge simply by having a untraceable method to his killings.

[@Suutari4]

Yeah. Light had godlt beings and forces with him. L and the police had to investigate it like any other crime. The setting was kinda unfair to begin with. I think it's kinda bullshit that Ryuk spotted the hidden cameras for Light despite of saying that he wouldn't help him.

[@Suutari4]

@Fr33 Worker Do you wish Light would've won?

[@ISlayForFun]

Fr33 Worker the official guides have lights intelligence rated higher than Ls. What are you talking about?

[@ISlayForFun]

Fr33 Worker so your not gonna dispute the authors and not back up your claim? 😂

[@ISlayForFun]

Fr33 Worker I’m willing to have a civil debate with you. I just wanna get insight on why you think l is smarter than light.

[@XxUnraveledGamerxX]

Also Light recieved the death note in high school, used it through college, and continued to use after he graduated and started working for the police. He played the game for years. Meanwhile Minoru got killed after what 3 years of having the book in his possession? THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!

[@Nerwrax15]

Well, no, he was introduced to the deathnote, told ryuk to get lost for 2 years, then completed his desired plan in less than 2 months. He was only killed because of a literal last second rule being made that he had no way of knowing would be made and died never knowing about it.

[@TokyoBalletReprise]

Nerwrax15 No, the rule didn’t kill him. Ryuk did.

[@Nerwrax15]

@@TokyoBalletReprise ......yes, as a result of that new rule being made, otherwise Ryuk would not have done it. He more or less did the same thing for Light, when they first meet Ryuk tells Light that when it is his time to die, Ryuk would also write Light's name in his Deathnote. So wether Minoru died to the actual rule itself affecting the world through the deathnote or Ryuk having to enforce the rule by word of the Shinigami King, it doesn't matter. Its a distinction without a difference.

[@elmina9403]

@@Nerwrax15 The new rule added says that the seller will die when he receives the money. Ryuk wrote his name anyway cause Minoru had no means to entertain him anymore. Even if the rule was not added Minoru would have died.

[@Nerwrax15]

@@elmina9403 that is not how Ryuk operates, he even said it was a fun time with Minoru for as long as it lasted so clearly he was satisfied. The only reason he killed Light is because he didn't want to stay attached to him for who knows how long waiting for him to die and obviously Light isn't gonna drop ownership of the death note so ryuk can be free. And you see Ryuk considering what to do about the new rule being in effect before remembering Minoru told him to never bother him again, so he decides not to tell him. and you clearly see Minoru dies moments after withdrawing the money, which meant Ryuk waited a whole month to pass before killing him, a whole month after Minoru gave him the deathnote and told him to never bother him again, why the heck would Ryuk kill Minoru for no longer being entertaining a WHOLE MONTH after going away from Minoru entirely? That does not make sense.

[@Emerald29]

Light might be smarter, but Minoru made a power move and fuckin pissed off the Shinigami king