Why The Death Note Would FAIL!

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"If you can't win the game... if you can't solve the puzzle... then you're just a loser." -N
In the world of "Death Note", Kira is god- a seemingly omnipotent entity with the ability to decide who dies and how. Only the smartest might even suspect that the killings ultimately tie back to a very dedicated young adult with an otherworldly notebook and a strong sense of justice. The series follows Light Yagami as he puts his genius mind to work, dodging police suspicion and killing off criminals in order to create a perfect world. His actions raise a lot of questions about the true meaning of "justice" and how humans respond to death... But perhaps an even bigger question is "Would he still be able to pull this off in modern society?" Join Tyler at The Imaginary Axis for a journey through culture and recent history to uncover the surprising argument about why even the greatest serial killer from 14 years ago might be a minor nuisance today... and why that should scare you even more.
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[@karolchruzik1919]

What is a god to a pepe?

[@ssjdarkdrakus5291]

karol chruzik tfs reference: what is a God to a non believer

[@greyscott5908]

the shadow rebel tfs reference is also a Kanye reference

[@Blasckk]

Do you belive now?

[@killerpizza17]

And what is a Pepe to a non memer?

[@hectorcasares196]

Dankikulus memeunculi BRUH nice 👍

[@Azqalihm]

Fatal flaw in this video: 4chan would take Light's side.

[@Maddinhpws]

Around 50% would probably. But the other 50% would be just like "Lol I can take down a god of death" The only question is who comes first. The mugger who beats him down or the guys who are like "Yo Kira, I've got some more infos for you and I will take down some guys with ya if ya want" And light would permanently be like "How the fuck are you guys keep finding me".

[@smievil]

some of them would remain calm and post nazi memes

[@grammarnazi0166]

Ferenc Szaffenauer I take Light's side

[@weebz3564]

Ferenc Szaffenauer i get it

[@TheRandomMuffinMan]

That actually is a good point, in the show and most likely in real life, Kira had many people who agreed with him. However I do think there will be a chunk of 4chan who think he is wrong or want to do it for bragging rights.

[@Ricegrain17]

4chan users: *tracks down the location of a flag by mapping out the stars, listening to the animals, looking for flying birds or planes and their flight patterns* me: *loses to level 3 chess bot*

[@neojenshi4055]

me: outplays bronze noobs in a 1v3 in valorant and still dies

[@scherebeatle]

@@neojenshi4055 me outplays pro overwatch players and still loses

[@zerozone5848]

@@scherebeatle me outplaying Faceit Level 10 csgo players and still getting my shit beaten

[@ASIOFY247]

The difference is not the intelligence, it‘s the motivation. Most people could do impressive things like the ones mentioned, but almost noone sticks to it long enough.

[@mokopuppet116]

@@zerozone5848 me go ham on apex, still dies

[@RobCrowley85]

4Chan: dedicated enough to track someone down to steal a flag, but won't use said skills to be helpful.

[@food7479]

Yes. Because it's no fun. Causing slight harm and mayhem is funny, especially if its a fair game or your opponent even has an advantage. But just kicking on some idiot? Naw.

[@opadrip]

Weaponized Autism is still Autism.

[@ABW941]

They helped bomb ISIS.

[@saasproductions3053]

ABW941 true.

[@KeuraChan]

4Chan: "wait... We can disrupt a GOD? Let's do it boooooys"

[@smoldragon339]

I feel like it would be super easy for Light to counter this actually. Firstly, he has the advantage of his method of killing being supernatural... which means it sounds like a conspiracy theory. That GREATLY limits both the number of people and the type of person who would correctly guess his methods. Secondly, he'd be able to monitor everyone's progress. And thirdly, he'd have an army of supporters who he could organize, and the ability to bombard the internet with alternate theories and misinformation campaigns.

[@meraj5393]

Light wouldn't let people think it's conspiracy. That defeats whole purpose Kira being a symbol

[@lightyagami1058]

I'll take all of this into consideration, thanks for your help.

[@coreenforcer6404]

You are already using a google service.

[@legayshianimated]

@@hicksskating2084 lol shinigami light uses android

[@chaysecourtney3701]

Light Yagami nani

[@heikinkun7120]

Well you are already exposed

[@otisw4033]

Haha

[@focusfernand0]

Here’s a spin off story to your theory: what if light uses the dark web to build a cult that worships and protects him?

[@jehekss1274]

damn, this deserves more likes

[@shimmi285]

Omg that's genius

[@Lastofthesigilites]

I'd love to see that

[@stuff5757]

I mean that would happen anyway, like at least 50% of 4chan would be on Light's side and would try to stop the Kirra investigation and so would many other people outside of 4chan. Like maybe a subreddit dedicated to finding Kirra gets spammed by a ton of people to hinder the investigation etc.

[@caiusdrakegaming8087]

@@stuff5757 Yeah, lets be honest nowadays people would happily help Light survive. We're a vindictive species, and most of us would see what Light's doing as a good thing. Hell, most of his supporters would also likely be mental and emotional support to keep Light sane and stable. Light letting the power go to his head was part of why he got found out.

[@slitherywriter1711]

Knowing 4Chan they'd mug Light, steal the death note, and continue his plan of killing criminals, but would be mailing the death note to each other like a murderous game of hot potato.

[@FallingPicturesProductions]

Now THIS is the case I'd want to see L try and solve.

[@sharky3994]

@my account to watch things in sundays phrase*

[@dbhDilemma]

BRO Imagine if the Netflix adaptation wasn't a hot dumpster fire, and by the time they caught Light, the Death Note was already shipped off to someone else! Aw that would have been SUCH a cool twist!

[@AroAceGamer]

The snag in that, however, is that whoever gives it away to another will lose their memory of the Death Note.

[@videocrowsnest5251]

The idea of a buncha 4channers having the ability to magic delete people is just incredibly terrifying, because with great power comes great responsibility....and I think that's enough said as for why were this to happen, the world would probably be done and dusted real quick. Quite an undignified way to go really.

[@AzA609]

Light: (Gets jumped, robbed and killed for his Death Note) Also Light: (smirks) It's all according to the plan.

[@_TheGreatPapyrus]

YES

[@qwer58j]

Also if a camera did see him pick up the notebook who would care? "Oh my God that kid picked up a notebook. Therefore he must be the murderer."

[@rameshbiswas5660]

But there is "Death Note" written on the notebook. If I were an investigator and saw a suspect with such uncommon object, I would have definitely made him my prime suspect.

[@AlexanderHL1919]

ramesh, do you know how many emos and edgy teens attend highschool? "Uncommon object", lol

[@ArkhanTheMack]

@@rameshbiswas5660 Are you suggesting that if you're working a case where hundreds, if not thousands, of criminals are dying all around the world from heart attacks and you just happen to notice a 17 year old with a notebook with "Death Note" on it that would be enough to convince you it was him?

[@whypper8427]

Tbh I could never get the idea that real world deaths result in someone writing in a book if there wasn't death note. So I it's hard to believe that the internet would figure that out just by that video recording. (Given the fact that the anime/manga don't exist in a world with a death note)

[@JoahTheThread5ive]

@@rameshbiswas5660 No school security camera will even be able to pick that up.

[@ryanrussell9123]

I feel that realistically NO one would believe that you can kill someone by knowing your name

[@aithanleeom5152]

People always say my name is hard to pronounce at school but it's a cakewalk for a shinigami for example "Aithan Liome" is not my real name it's said in the death note that if you accidentally misspell a name in the notebook 4 times that person will be immune to that specific death note for example Goku is already immune to the death note.

[@aithanleeom5152]

Goku doesn't have a last name so he was already immune to the death note since birth.

[@steelbear2063]

@@aithanleeom5152 You have to misspell it 4 times, but yes. Also no, having no last name doesn't save you. It is said that every person has a name, even if he never had a legal one. Even if you somehow don't have any legal name at all and you have no interaction with humans who can give something like a nickname they know you by - Death Note still has something to work with. Also I don't need to pronounce your name, I only need to write it.

[@reidt182]

some people believe in the flat earth, so not too much of a stretch

[@blauwbeer556]

@@reidt182 the difference is is that there is some logic to the idea...which is just experience but nobody has experienced a death by writing a name, at least not directly so it is harder to believe that someone is just writing names of people he wants dead. FOR CLARIFICATION: I do not believe the earth is flat, I am just showing you their logic behind it and why it isn't the same.

[@immoronicisdead]

This whole theory is holding onto the assumption that Light would have done the same thing in modern times of what he did back then

[@najthebob5332]

‏‏‎ rightttt

[@quandaledingle3739]

Everyone underestimates Light smh

[@boyzilla78productions]

Well... were f***ed

[@JH-dr4xo]

orochimarujes I know what you mean, it’s kinda annoying. But a lot has happened in the last 20 years specifically

[@tobe.moemeka]

Yes but before he got the death note odds are he has social media. They’d probably have to right his character as a hacker

[@kyuzari]

i don't think people are going to see other people die of heart attacks and think "this has to be a death note."

[@treykoyawena4443]

exactly most will think its actually its god not a guy with a death note and think prisons are killing off inmates in someway

[@Lord-vader2002]

These guys on the internet take themselves too seriously...

[@Flipitmixit]

Exactly, this video makes no sense

[@SirToaster9330]

More like "Ok yeah, I'm going to lay off the sweets"

[@ChirstInTheDistance]

Yeah, nobody would just jump to that conclusion.

[@twiggy3638]

You’re missing the crucial detail that Light would attempt and almost DEFINITELY succeed in getting himself into one of those Discord servers.

[@ari3903]

You are right, but Light wouldn't do that. He is aware that if he stops a plan after joining a discord server, he will be one of the few suspects.

[@phoenix9620]

@@ari3903 he wouldn’t stop it, he’d use the information to throw them off

[@ari3903]

@@phoenix9620 it still applies.

[@volgtorbg]

@@ari3903 he literally went in to the police investigation unit lol

[@phoenix9620]

@@ari3903 no it doesn’t, he obviously wouldn’t do it directly, he throw them off by giving doing things to throw them off because he knows what they would be gathering intel on, he wouldn’t go in the chat or whatever and try obscuring their data because they’d find out its him

[@neptunesphere3964]

Okay, you’ve modernised the setting. But you haven’t modernised Light. Light is HIGHLY intelligent. Do you really think he’d be unaware of his searches being monitored?

[@awc7279]

The video author isn't highly intelligent. :(

[@DoubleBoost23]

He can't really do anything about it aside from VPN,and that still doesn't stop private servers trying to find him and his methods out,unless he just doesn't do any publicity stuff with his kills.

[@xavier7769]

@@DoubleBoost23 You fail to mention that you can build your own VPN. Everybody literally underestimates light so much.

[@alaaye5237]

Xavier What you don’t realize is that nothing stops the government from finding you if they want to. A vpn doesn’t matter. The best hackers in the world have been caught by the government, it doesn’t matter how smart Light is unless his skills with computers rivaled that of Gary McKinnon. Then they would find him eventually. It doesn’t matter what he did, VPN doesn’t stop the government. It’s just that the government doesn’t care what most people are doing but if you give them a reason to care they’ll find you.

[@alaaye5237]

Kalle Nilsson No he doesn’t. A government worker does not have the same power as the government. That’s like saying a simple government worker has the same power as the head of the FBI. That’s like saying since you work for a company you can go head to head with your boss.

[@williamshakemilk2192]

*Google CEO dies of a hearthattack 40 seconds after this video was finished*

[@TheAwesomeMarble]

I swear it was not me.

[@topaz9655]

TheAwesomeMarble thank u for confessing Not Me

[@Terminalsanity]

It matters not they'll be replaced in 5 seconds by another CEO

[@SuubUWU]

Tell that to apple innovation

[@Randomguy-wd5lw]

kill all the board of investor and the company go bankrupt

[@joylynbateman4015]

But you must also understand that even if Kira appeared in modern day, there will be people who look up to Kira and it’s said that large amounts of the population support Kira in the story due to him stopping criminals and in the 1017 movie even the cops appreciate what Kira is doing. So in all while the internet would stop Kira, the question is would people want to. Would they want to stop something when they are desperate for change as well

[@metalngames509]

Not to mention Google searches would be absolutely flooded with the keyword "Kira" so narrowing it down to one high school kid searching for Forums about Kira would be difficult. Especially since the entire police force, numerous curious citizens and Kira sympathizers would also be searching for those same forums.

[@D_YellowMadness]

@@metalngames509 They could probably solve that by just programming an algorithm to find the person who searched the most names of death note victims prior to their deaths.

[@okamiseele8614]

Yeah, but, like Misa, there would be fans that are dedicating to finding Kira anyway. It would be something fun to do anyway 'I wonder if I can find Kira?' I think a lot of people would try to find Kira just because they can, they want to meet him, or are just bored.

[@lada8744]

Yeah, his web searched are not going to stand out. Searching criminal names would stand out, and use a VPN, and they really won't. Not to mention you forget the part of the internet that would root out those opposing him, even anonymously. Light would not post on the internet as Kira, so you'd have ton of similar searches. Plus Once Light keeps heading the investigation team, those web searches are justified.

[@SmartAss4123]

@@D_YellowMadness if he even searched for them manually

[@jayb8934]

Light strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn't be on social media, even before becoming Kira. He was popular because he was smart, athletic, and good looking, but he was never social. He didn't seem to have any friends or any interest in dating before it was a cover for his activities. And if Google could out him so easily, how the heck do actual terrorists pull off anything? I think that people give the ever watching "Big Brother" too much credit sometimes. There's too much information going around online every second to pinpoint the suspicious activities of one person or small group unless you already have reason to single them out.

[@idkwhatimdoing4801]

Jay B exactly, and also he could be using a vpn at night with tor on a random ass laptop he smuggled. Ryuk is constantly informing him and light would be that guy in the discord server. Imo light would get caught but not in a week like its said in the video

[@Cemtexify]

idk what im doing I think the video was generally pretty good but I agree there are a few problems with his analysis relating specifically to Light as a character.

[@Grizabeebles]

+Jay B -- TBH, Light's not all that and a bag of chips. I'm pretty sure he's a psychopath and even if he just goes power-mad in a hurry, he makes quite a few mistakes. Modern Terrorists have been using the same tactics since the 80s. It turns out that meeting face-to-face in a church basement every week is still the best way to avoid all surveillance except for infiltrators. Charismatic leaders recruit disaffected individuals through some twisting of ideology (usually political or religious) to join a "social group" that meets in the real world face-to-face. After a while in the echo chamber, those deemed fit for advancement are taken aside after a meeting to perform some "test of loyalty" (usually armed violence, and/or isolating themselves from friends or family) and then are taken to the "next layer" of the organization. They are then placed in a militia unit or as part of a cell in another city, either to recruit more people or to stage an attack. Everything done so far is _entirely legal_ as long as no physical coercion or threats are used. Once part of a cell, they move into a location chosen by the Organization and start looking for work. They go to work, they get along with their neighbors. All the while, they quietly gather equipment, train and plan their attack (potentially for years) and then execute it without breathing a word of it to anybody. They have no online presence, they never call home and as much as possible without arousing suspicion, they only socialize with "roommates" (aka. fellow cell members). From the outside they look like any other group of young men starting out in the Big City. And unlike Kira, they aren't leaving a constant trail of dead bodies covered in psychological and physical clues for a detective to puzzle over. Non-state militias like ISIS are basically just military units on campaign. They know how to hide from drones and satellites and they get funding through various outside means. Again, they have very little contact with the outside world, therefore there's nothing to track.

[@skullcrusher8u251]

light is a megalomaniac not a psychopath, well maybe both, probably a sociopath.

[@mariosblago94]

good arguments, but your rhetorical question was actually answered int he video. Terrorist are able to do their thing because there's not enough people trying to catch them. But, if you assume that a lot of people would join forces to catch Kira (given his high profile kills and his "message"), it wouldn't take long.

[@SuperBuildsInMC]

1:43, Just nitpicking here, Light isn't an average student, he is one of the top students in all of Japan.

[@antoniomolina3612]

He was THE top student in Japan

[@brie.3833]

@This Is What Awesome Looks Like eh debatable

[@oriharaizaya5524]

@This Is What Awesome Looks Like L would've won if a simp shinigami didn't kill him

[@levistea174]

@@oriharaizaya5524 "simp shinigami" is the perfect name.

[@ChiccaJinju]

@@antoniomolina3612 yes but not of the world....on the internet you might be able to find someone way smarter than him. The point in not Light against one single person but the whole internet.

[@CZsWorld]

Yeah, or he'd get a VPN.

[@lostsassychild6021]

VPNs do little to protect your privacy or enhance your security, unless paired with other changes. VPNs cannot encrypt data outside of the connection between your device and the VPN server also there's a "no logging" policy which is completely wrong (state of Japan we're talking about; It's all going to be logged). There's not really a lot that VPNs do other than hiding traffic from your ISP (Leaks do happen to expose this very often). Light would use Firefox (for regular activity) and TOR (for other illict activities) making it harder to trace. Light was portayed as a hardworking, talented, and successful young man with a strong willpower and "justice" (although corrupted soon after with a God complex); Light is incredibly ambitious, with the cunning and creativity to carry out his goals (such as "Becoming God Of The New World", "New World Order", etc). Light is basically a genius and often adored by his peers (students, family {Although not shown visibly, it was subtle}, and even Lawliet Obrah {L} as he even considered him a potential replacement in the event of his death, despite his suspicion.) Light would also have to be modernized in this situation (As the video author made L, Mello and Near basically as their peak which is they're useless unless compared together and Mello's sacrifice is what stopped Light from outsmarting Near (He would of regardless). So Light is around the level of a Extraordinary Genius I'd say... Now, we modernized pretty much all important characters we need to create new plot and proceed the events which is pretty much impossible due to Light, L and Near all being unpredictable in some ways.

[@lostsassychild6021]

Also nobody will make the leap of "Oh, it's a magical death note thingy" and would assume past events happened before the events of the person's death so they're continously fall victim to Light's unknown killing method. The only reason L got it was because of Plot. *That is Light is extremely arrogant and has a god complex, and can panic when these things are challenged so he makes these kinds of mistakes given the resources of L the plot required him to be written in this way and you know the rest*

[@thisisepic3289]

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[@lostsassychild6021]

@LiL Speng You are indeed correct but that invalidate my other points.

[@vampiradeathrockerbatxq762]

CZsWorld, I read that in your voice, your channel is so awesome, you're so cute, me an my boyfriend watch your videos (me more because I like horror movies more, I just got more into Korean Horror an cant remember if you've reviewed any recent Korean Horror movies, I am so sorry if you did an I havent seen it though i dont mean to be disrespectful

[@s.o.k.1393]

I don't think the internet would see a series of heart attack victims and think that a high school student was killing them by writing names in a notebook. After all, L deduced that Kira existed and needed a name and a face through classified police information as well as very specific experiments (Lind L. Tailor). However, I do agree that he would eventually be caught because of the internet.

[@Cinnamon_Chayne]

What if Death Note happened today coexisting with the anime and manga? That might make it way easier for people to guess the name/face conclusion.

[@agatha968]

@@Cinnamon_Chayne or harder, because there are way more people that have a death note, you can just use it anywhere and no one would suspect, if they even related the deaths to something more than just chance

[@aldoghazali1375]

I don't think so, cuz the victims always criminals!

[@itzrohith6257]

@@agatha968 or may be dont post anything on internet use books to get muderer name or family tv or public tv may be create a group who buys magzine for u

[@brendonw456]

L deduced that Kira existed prior to using any police information. He announced it TO a gathering of police officials from around the world right after they were contemplating calling him in...which means he didn't need their info to figure it out, because he hadn't gotten it yet. The names and faces thing is honestly a huge gaping hole in the story since it hinges upon criminals who hadn't died yet...even though Light was far, *far* away from having cleansed the world of criminals yet. In fact, *after* that point in the story, Light even states that he's got a whole roster of criminals that he saves for experimental purposes, and he also has deaths scheduled well in advance of the current day in case he is incapacitated in some fashion. TLDR: L doesn't use police info to figure out that Kira exists and figuring out he needs a name and a face to kill is nearly impossible. He may need one or the other, but knowing he needs both is impossible via the method used in the series.

[@llawliet8966]

One Shot : *Releases* Well now this is awkward

[@naav642]

Hi L!

[@DominatorTV9999]

Hahah

[@arctiyt9818]

💀😂😂

[@amon2751]

Lmao

[@aaaacheese156]

Aren’t you dead?

[@chonchjohnch]

Imagine if 4chan got access to the note. Someone would start selling pieces

[@princesoulger999]

Dude! How much do you think an entire page would cost ?

[@shadowfan982]

@@princesoulger999 a few hundred thousand dollars for half a page

[@paupau2693]

lmfao ohexploitable.jpeg

[@floatingf8783]

It would be of no use to them. Hillary Clinton has no heart.

[@gur262]

Pieces? ... Work it into name tags on products making people kill themselves accidentally

[@joseph-fernando-piano]

I have to think that if it took place in 2017, Light would be far more careful than he was in the anime, where he was basically rubbing his actions in the faces of people trying to catch him, and actually wanted to maximize the amount of attention his killings received...

[@fhjdghcfhc1936]

Joseph Fernando yes he did, for one simple reason. For as carful and cunning as light is, he has one down fall, his ego. He has a god complex and wants the attention. Now if he would counter act this to 2017, I don't know, I don't think he would, but I can't say for certain

[@jerric1228]

I don’t believe light ever considered L to either be real or as smart, and so I believe hindsight is the real lynchpin, not the year. Light failed because his initial entrapment in the game of wits came about because he didn’t think it could be traced back to him so quickly. Knowing how thoroughly he has to cover his own ass could have drastically changed the outcome in both situations. Tor is a good example of how one can hide on the internet today.

[@thegodofsaiyans535]

He would need to be or have a follower that is the best hacker or something like that to maybe escape from google and the internet.

[@onijester56]

Which is why in the Netflix adaptation, Light is actively directing his higher-profile murders out of Japan. And when he spreads his own "God Name" of "Kira" he selected it because it's relatively neutral: it's a Japanese pronunciation/writing of the English word "Killer"...making those who would hunt him believe that he originates in Japan. And it's also that care which was a problem. See, no such overt "Google searches" were performed because Light was accessing his father's police database for 99% of the criminals. L thus justified the lack of open searches for criminals pre-Judgement with the explanation that Kira had access to police databases; if he's not using Google, he must have access to a private criminal database such as the ones that police forces regularly use. Thus L sprinkled bait case-files throughout various police databases...and Light picked one concerning Japan to throw the trail that direction. However, L set that seed in the specific database Light was using...which is how L knew that Kira was connected to that police force in America. (I believe the Seattle Police Department. Or Chicago Police Department. One of those.) And it's also part of why he uses Watari to get information on L's true name...avoiding the entire possibility of the internet realizing that the person looking for "world's greatest detective L" would be Kira by preventing the former thing in the first place.

[@onijester56]

Or have a private database that permits him to find victims without cluing Google and the Internet into his search history. Something like a police criminal database, which he regularly frequents and has access to because of his police chief father. (Which is how L in the Netflix adaptation tracked Kira/Light to that specific city.)

[@allmightjunior6917]

I really like how the one shot stroy that came after death note, by the same author, talked about this specific thing, in that story riyuk was bored again and wanted to give the death note to another smart person like light hoping he'll do awesome things with it, so he decided to sell it in a creative way, but once he was told about light and his adventures, he explicitly said that those tricks he used to do back in the day won't work today due to the development of technology, echoing the same sentiments of this video by the author of death note himself, but he also said that light will most definitely find a workaround.

[@dalton2845]

"The batman, this guy literally might be insane" Loved that line

[@KINGKROSBYSKINGDOM]

Dalton he is insanse

[@wickedbundy867]

How

[@kdhai4697]

@@wickedbundy867 becuse he is batman

[@aaaacheese156]

Minibo06 he is an unstable orphan who dresses up as his greatest fear and beats people up so they don’t commit crimes. I mean, that doesn’t sound crazy to you?

[@matthewr6148]

When you think about it, Modern Internet Light could still become quite a powerhouse with the death note, as he'd know to use modern tools. The obvious is to hide suspicious searches using VPNs and relying on software that just doesn't have trackers in it; basically everything has some workable alternative. However, he'd also be able to use social media to his own benefit. With some caution, he can turn his social media accounts into his own personal alibi generator. He would do regular every-day stuff and post about it online, but set up deaths to occur at the same time; that is, assuming he wouldn't have a reason to reveal his control of the time of death to anyone. With the world breathing down his neck, why would one individual detective get beneath his skin the way that L does in the anime?

[@TheAce12570]

Honestly, he would probably just operate with a man-in-the-middle type of strategy. Basically instead of finding the information himself, he'd figure out the name of just one criminal, then write "searches the internet for criminals and copies their names, pictures and details of their crimes, then prints this information out and brings the envelope to ________ (a location where Light (or yet another m-i-t-m) could pick it up), before going home, erasing all evidence of his recent activity and hanging himself." Then he could just repeat this process with a different criminal later. Even if they tracked down the man in the middle, which would already be a gargantuan task, they'd still have no way of connecting it with Light unless he was dumb about the way he handled the exchange of information with his puppet. Which he wouldn't, it's still Light we're talking about.

[@kingol4801]

Beta Factor Also, nobody in the real world would know about how Death Note works, and it is a gigantic deal!!! There would be tons of conspiracies about it, at it would push the investigation sideways for many years. Who does it? Some organization? Some aliens etc etc.

[@TheAce12570]

@@kingol4801 yeah. Authorities would spend months looking for the method used to commit the murders, testing for super complicated poisons and such, because obviously if you see someone dying you expect a cause that can be explained by natural laws rather than assume it's a supernatural object like the Death Note.

[@KeuraChan]

Well... We are taking in consideration that "L" still a factor? If no... every time, some know criminal get killed and for some reason in his internet search have other know criminals... Them for some reason his neighborhood say that he was always going to some unknown place to send a envelope. Some other know criminal get killed or dies... The police see the same thing as the last one... They contact Google or another internet provider in the Kanto area, cause the know criminals, in this propose, are going to gave Light the names, planes and public transport are not a option. They see some strange internet access in some area and go to investigate. They go there, or just star to following him. They see him giving information to a school boy and go on a investigation to him. They question the paper with a lot of criminal names and... Well, I think it is pretty obvious what happens.

[@kingol4801]

Chara Dreemurr You underestimate the power of death note, lol. This can be simply negated by “X person dies of accident, but before that they receive page and fully fill it out with the names of criminals. Of course, they research the names themselves. In case they are captured, they can be ordered to suicide or whatever. Also, they are ordered to simply write the names down, and hence, they have no idea that their action actually kills people”. Lastly, the police (or ANY logic based detective) won’t even consider the pages the main cause of death. Nobody! Be realistic. They will try to find what happens with the page afterwards (if that has not been destroyed by the puppet already). And will get stuck in a dead end. Then you can repeat the process with some other random person. You seriously underestimate the power of death note, lol. It gives the user an ability to kill people from any distance in any location and mind-control them (before their eventual demise). These powers alone are close to being top tier, lol. All your analysis is wrong because you assume that people will know how exactly people die (I.e. they will know about death note). But here is the thing - they won’t. The power of disbelief, conspiracy theories etc is astonishing. Hence, they will simply lack any reasonable evidence to, well, do an investigation. Add on the precautions of making other people to fill out the death note + make all death random/accidents/whatever etc (limiting the correlation between the method of death to 0). If anything, people would believe it is some “final destination” stuff going on. Not some oddly specific notebook killing people (seriously, you wouldn’t even consider that an option if you haven’t known about the anime). Case closed. No suspects, but a trail of bodies of both innocent and many more guilty. Also also, the police won’t act rationally or perfectly. If they did, there would be 0 unresolved cases. Still, people can get away with practically anything these days. Add to that some mythical object with leaves no evidence and little to no trace, and you will never be caught as nobody would be able to prove or suspect you directly. Maximum, they will follow your puppets, which will be clueless and know nothing. Also, even if they prove that pages kill, they will not know that you can manipulate one’s behavior or the rules of the death note. Hence, again, there is practically no chance of them catching you. GG.

[@Gambio15]

This only works under the assumption that LIght would follow trough with his original plan and wouldn't adapt to the current state of the World

[@n1njacslibur]

Finally! Someone points out the obvious.

[@filipferencak2717]

Your comment assumes that he can adapt to it.

[@n1njacslibur]

Filip Ferenčak He has shown to be capable of adapting to near impossible situations.

[@filipferencak2717]

Tee m But not to every...

[@sntreulfravn2321]

And under the assumption that anyone would know who light is

[@kunk8789]

Light: *uses ExpressVPN* L: Oh my god he gon X-game on this one

[@farazzza4344]

They wouldn't know he was in japan tho. because he has access to our modern internet he could kill criminals from all over the world really quick with more diversity.

[@IchHassePasswoerter]

They'd find a pattern eventually. Search patterns for things that come up locally. For example, where you search a term has influence on what link shows up at the top.

[@MrAdravix]

@@IchHassePasswoerter in that kind of situation, you'd initially kill someone known all over the world with the death note. If you were to actually test it it'd be easiest to find out. The other thing is that Kira's existence was only acknowledged truly when he took on L's challenge. The death note didn't cause light to lose. His own mistakes and ego did. the way I see death note is that it was never about making the world a better place

[@hexcss9153]

L was able to figure it out pretty easily, and you seem to have forgotten that Light did kill criminals all over the world, which is why the Interpol and the FBI were involved at first.

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

Still can do it. F.e. First murder was in Japan and the hostage situation in the kindergarten was broadcasted probably ONLY in Japan. With this they could even asure this information.

[@bo3026]

@@Ballin4Vengeance just pointing this out not saying your wrong but I’m theory could he work with people online from around the world that he might know to kill people that are televised only there?

[@600Denise]

Light: Im the god of the new world! Internet: *Im about to end this mans whole career*

[@tentauwu5453]

Light:I’m the god of the new world Internet: Say some sike now

[@thewebadventurer2958]

@@tentauwu5453 U mean Sike?

[@tentauwu5453]

Yea I changed it

[@Spartan11117777]

Ima about to end this whole man’s career before he gets the chance to get a career in Law Enforcement. :)

[@TheMasterReaper]

Literally

[@meeramalhotra33]

Plot twist: Light takes all of this into consideration and becomes a genius hacker. Check.

[@Moriartart]

Right? Folks not taking into consideration that if he was born at around our time he’d know he’s always being tracked etc etc, and might even be a computer genius too. There’s a reason people still get away with highly illegal stuff on the internet

[@koatam]

@@Moriartart Wait... Criminals get away with stuff?

[@RealCoolstriker64]

“Hack google” right.

[@polaris5200]

@@koatam yes...?

[@michaelho3407]

Just because he is smart doesnt mean he can become a genius at hacking he would have to learn it

[@r3n3gad33]

"Internet people will figure who Kira is" Light: Turns on Incognito mode.

[@dilipkumarsarkar8455]

But Google would still be able to track light's browsing even if he uses incognito mode as, it will live a slight data trail and anyway the video was made in 2018 at that time chatgpt was not created so with the help of Ai and by tracking and calculating death anomalies internet can still be able to track and catch Light Yagami.

[@Zziean3]

​@@dilipkumarsarkar8455 would vpn help?

[@amo1704]

And when they actually find Light the neckbeards will organize a raid at his house in order to "clap them shinigami cheeks"

[@amo1704]

@Tangent of circle. good point. But clapping shinigami cheeks is too tempting to let the opportunity go by.

[@amo1704]

@Tangent of circle. was just tryna be funny mang :'^)

[@legionmaniac-9202]

Don't think that's possible but funny tho

[@b3nl555]

Tangent of circle. Yeesh, dude, it was just a joke.

[@assassinbro2988]

these 4chan users would all have heart attacks before they could make it to him

[@bray1872]

This entire argument is based off the premise of Light doing the same things he did in the manga if the current version of the internet existed. But thats just it, Light would never do those same things if that was the case. You're holding two separate eras of time accountable by the same story. Wouldn't it be more realistic to imagine how Light, equipped with his same superior genius level intellect and his same Death Note we all know, would go about his reign of terror if he actually NEW about the current version of the internet? Obviously the entire story would change, because if Light lived in the current time we live in, he would already know every point you brought up and more, leading him down a completely different path that we saw in the manga.

[@Isaacindelicato123]

Vegeta thank youuu I was looking for this comment. This video is kinda silly

[@thedarkderp2520]

yeah but how would light know that a book allowing him to grant death would fall into his possession? answer is he wouldn't and if he's is a regular user of the internet beforehand (which he would be in today's society) well this video covers

[@thedarkderp2520]

@Jack park and there are plenty more that have been caught and intelligence doesn't determine if you're caught or not it's circumstance and tangible evidence or lack thereof

[@thedarkderp2520]

@Jack park dude there's no need to be so hostile geez

[@thedarkderp2520]

@Jack park also it's not a natural death if your death was caused through a magical artifact it's murder but i get your point it would look like a natural death if it was seen by a random person but if the deaths are happening at such a rapid rate and the majority of deaths if not all of them are public figures it would be looked into

[@Lexsheraton]

“How is he killing people?” “We don’t know it must be a magic book” Group or individual, no one would make that leap.

[@Chrisfragger1]

I agree, completely. It's just NOT expected and completely outside the pale for what we can imagine in a real world. And Death Note is a real world (with the exception of the Death Note) there is no one with super powers, there are no magical devices known to people. So people would not be able to guess that the killer was using a magic book.

[@Lexsheraton]

Chrisfragger1 exactly. Clues or no clues someone with a device like this in the real world where this is supposedly based in could go on killing indefinitely. Actually if I was in this guys shoes and people came knocking at my door asking me if I was killing people, I would say “yes I am and I’m doing it using a black magic book dropped on earth by a death god” then proceed to not leave my house for a few weeks while the deaths keep happening. No one would prosecute this.

[@Chrisfragger1]

Yeah exactly. They cannot prove that book is the cause. EVEN if they found it, found ALL the names matched dead people... You are just making notes of people who publically died, out of a dark interest. There is NO evidence chain.

[@kristianperez4108]

Light, or Kira, wouldn't be satisfied by just killing criminals, he would want the world to know that there's someone out there dishing out divine punishment, Even with the lack of evidence, detectives could still build a psychological profile based on the victims and time of death alone, similar to what L did in the manga,

[@filipferencak2717]

They don't have to. They just need to track whoever is looking up all of the people turning up dead. Since the original wave of corpses was left in Japan they would most likely start there. Then, after a few days and some brainstorming, they'd notice his schedule and realize that he is a student. After that, all they need to do is wait for Light to slip up, which he would because he is a narcissistic, impulsive lunatic who has a history of slip-ups in the original series. My guess is that he would reveal his connection to the police (intentionally or not) which would bring him down.

[@hashiramasenju9851]

I love the amount of passion with which he makes these vids. I think he truly loves to talk about fiction and make mind-bending theories

[@NiceuRiceu]

Light is literally a Genius, the author made him to be one. In a modern day setting, Light could be an expert hacker and would take extra steps to cover his tracks as well as the fact that there is no visual media of the Death Note being real in this scenario

[@Nsun07]

He was already shown to be able to hack his fathers computer, he could easily be one of the worlds best hackers with some time and dedication!

[@NiceuRiceu]

@@Nsun07 "in a modern day setting"

[@Coldest1_]

Light would have been way more harder to figure out if he wasn’t only killing criminals in Japan

[@ericareaper8750]

I don't think so. Light helped in the past police force to solve cases. And probably knows how to enter in the police database. In addition the police chef son, he probably knows enough how to do it. And know his father's password and stuff.

[@humanbeeing4780]

if some dumb trolls online who are probably 13 can find the location of a SECRET GOVERNMENT BUILDING and DESTROY IT, I doubt they'd have any trouble finding Light

[@theworld1739]

To be fair, Misa had the eyes, that's how she knew his name.

[@lightyagami3492]

Exactly. That was conveniently left out.

[@rhysjohn100]

Not gonna lie, was waiting for the vpn sponsorship to come out any second but then realized that this video was uploaded 2 years ago

[@erendripaeger9875]

😂😭😭😂😂

[@TheManOfTomorrow]

1:42 Light Yagami was not an 'average' high school student but rather he was an 'ideal' high school guy for every being. He was a genius, attractive, reputed guy and a beloved well-mannered son.

[@melhorandogames]

The problem is: people wouldn't go for the "magic" side of the thing. Government and internet would think deaths are related to food/toxic substances in water/viruses... That kinda thing. Kira could even use coronavirus as his weapon, and never be caught

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

“Contracts Sars/COVID19 and dies from it 1 month later.” Unless the person never goes out and meets people only on discord this would be untraceable

[@NotZakken]

@@Ballin4Vengeance 🙄

[@theguyfromtsukihime3898]

@@Ballin4Vengeance if that's the case then I'm guessing light can just use a vpn and look up the faces of his next victims through social media or news articles

[@LOVE-wq4ku]

@@theguyfromtsukihime3898 this to or books sold online or use public computers

[@fibecheee]

*perhaps.*

[@12pittawat18]

I blame his teacher for putting him next to the window

[@0uttrr]

I blame his parents for giving him birth

[@dadneeder]

@@0uttrr I blame ryuk,for being ryuk.

[@Coldest1_]

@@dadneeder I blame all shinigami for being a shinigami

[@zf10studios52]

@@Coldest1_ I blame his parents for sending him to school

[@ThugOG30VIPs3rd-T]

whatt? so sum other fuq can use it for selfish gain???

[@rinkuverma3459]

This video *exist* Hacker Light : Am I a joke to you?

[@rosanirodrigues557]

alpha5and5 Yes.

[@KeuraChan]

@@BefallS well, the more information he gets from the internet, the more suspicious he will become. I'm loving to read and to have this discussions, sorry to revive them :3

[@sem7039]

Light would most likely learn himself to program if it was a thing he could learn

[@deadpirateroberts9937]

Chara Dreemurr They won’t know he got the information, it will only be a benefit. Aside from using tor and being almost completely annonymous, there are also some people who already investigate criminals, either for themselves or professionally, there will be plenty of people searching the same things Light does, and he could piggyback off the popular searches of criminals and go unnoticed.

[@sem7039]

@Al3xh413 Just a smart kid? Light was a kid that scored a maximum on the hardest university's entrance exam, if thats anything related to the SAT's that would give him an IQ of about 152ish, 0.026% of the worlds population, this kid outsmarted the best detective in the world when he wasnt even at his peak. To say hes just a smart kid would be dumb. Those obsessive weirdos would be around 125 because they see a purpose in doing random shit

[@lortigaproductions3120]

No, let me explain why in detail. The only reason there was a light to shine on light (mhm) in the first place was because of his underlying "true" motivations for doing what he did, boredom. He was on a quest for self-realization just as much as changing the world, if not more. Even if he fell for L's first trick, if he had stopped there and not used police information, they likely would never have gotten close to Light. In a world with internet, Light would never have tried to challenge L in the way he did and your premise seems to rely on the internet replacing L, not that he is also a player. There are no surveillance in lights home, and even if we assume all his electronic cameras are always watching, he could simply use a desktop monitor without a camera and make sure his phone never faced anything revealing. A mega-genius like Light would be aware of all potential risks of his devices and would prepare for the worst case scenario. Perhaps the most dangerous moment would be when he first comes into contact with Ryuk and if his conversation with him was recorded somehow. Although, even if this was the case, the few ears that would have access to this audio wouldn't assume a magical death note was responsible for the killings. Light said he was expecting Ryuk however, so he would realistically have prepared for this scenario as well. You also forget that the deduction of L was at first based on the information Kira would have available to him. Light would be smart enough to kill criminals from all around the world since he would have access to the entire world's news feed through the internet. Using L's deduction methods would be impossible, and the only reason he found Light to at all was because light wanted "to get closer to L so he could eliminate him". You could argue that you could trace lights tv and internet history to the killings, but with sophisticated means of keeping ones privacy through VPNs and I imagine other things, he could hide this from at least the internet's eyes. Any larger and more powerful entity would have no reason to suspect him yet and so wouldn't allocate recourses to scour some random Japanese students computer. Besides, Light could simply make note of criminals names and faces through public tv's or computers at his school or other more creative solutions he would surely come up with and there would be no trace to him expect maybe at the most extreme of cases that Kira was likely one of the students at his school. Light would keep up appearances with social media or he might not even use it. If he was using it he would simply continue as he was. The kind of personality change that could be detected after he found the notebook would be barely visible on social media and if anyone tried to figure out who Kira was through means like that, the internet would go on wild witch hunts for small perceived "evidence". Also, there wouldn't be anything near consensus on whether Kira was in fact an individual or a group. It would likely be seen as more plausible that a large organization planned it or even that a real god was behind it. Only very few would have the intuition and deduction to guess the truth, and even fewer would trust that intuition enough to actually believe it fully. Even fewer would have the recourses to act on those intuitions, and if they didn't have the recourses but wanted to amass help through the internet, it's unlikely many would believe him/her and be convinced whatsoever. Also, there are many serial killers on the loose right this moment and the internet will never find them because they don't leave a trial. If there are no flag recordings or base recordings or photographs to base your geolocation-finding skills on there would be nowhere to start. Light would sit in his room after school, pretending to study, recording names outside in the open and would never be suspected of anything. There are other points I could make because frankly there are so many, but the last and perhaps most important one would be - all of Light's information would be publicly available, but so would almost everyone else's, so his ability to threaten peoples lives would be so overwhelming that only people like L, N and Mellow and secret organizations with secret members would be able to do anything about it. Even then, Kira would, as he does in the manga, threaten presidents and leaders to stop funding for investigations. He would hold the entire world hostage, and because of the internet, this time it would actually be true. Simply the threat of Kira killing anyone posting any investigative efforts online would be enough to discourage all but the most devoted. So the idea that all the internets brainpower would be pooled together is a pipe dream and it would probably end up looking more like it did in 2003.

[@lilyannalozano]

period lmao.

[@Flipitmixit]

Smart man

[@impression2563]

Kira threatening the internet would indicate the internet knows people are dying in odd scary patterns. It would be very easy for them to notice the pattern of prisoners or bad people dying strictly if they had a public face or name, if that solely was the case the gov would also host experiments with prisoners close to the introduction to L.

[@SmartAss4123]

based comment

[@SmartAss4123]

@@impression2563 It would take an extraordinarily long time to even implement that. Even longer to do a correct narrow search. And good luck with coincidental deaths with intentional deaths. And then good luck getting the correct country and being able to distinguish the right person

[@janikgrassberger542]

2 things: 1. what if light wouldn't go all crazy and kill 100s of people within a few days? if he'd just kill a few people here and there maybe nobody would even think that there is a killer. 2. what if the internet was actually on light's side? maybe the internet trolls would not try to find out who light is but try do find L. - J

[@alexdoan273]

Then the criminals would keep committing crimes because they don't know someone is punishing them, so what would he kill for? He wanted to send a message. Majority of people don't like killing, and don't like it when somebody can kill them anytime, anywhere. Especially people on the internet. Soon as they find out that Kira doesn't have the power to kill anonymous nicknames on the internet, they will raid his place. Not to mention the organized criminals, the people that want the power for themselves, and the freaking government. The government has the power of propagation, and there would be absolutely no way the politicians would paint someone who can kill anyone without bullets in a good light.

[@loyalwolf252]

Honest Hands sample the world governments have a 6 billion dollars reward online and everybody try to find him

[@robert6541]

True. most people would agree with his version of Justice cuz there are 75 m psychopaths in the world and they just put them in prison for few years and let them go out to kill people again. People would be on kira's side

[@fazbad1988]

Some people hate the idea that god govern everything, much less a mortal. Raito would be free-for-all target for Death Note power. Mark Zuckerberg will be in front of his door, in less than 4 hours.

[@MyPisceanNature]

There will certainly be those who would side with Light, but it doesn't take a united internet to bring him down. His ego would be his downfall. He wants the attention, and that is what does him in in the anime. It is was will do him in in the real world, only much faster.

[@Jimmy-fu3lq]

Light is much smarter than Shia LaBeouf

[@Mr-Moron]

Honestly I don’t even know if Shia has a brain to begin with.

[@mcheesy5887]

@@Mr-Moron It really amaze me that they found the flag based on the sky look like people have so much free time. In this time Light would be adapted and even in his horse he was putting a mask and yeah the profile of kid thinking that this world is rotten is about roughly 40% of worldwide population. I don't think people would actually imagine a high school student having a magical notebook.

[@galaxion2857]

Don't disrespect the king of BAyformers

[@kirillazarov6865]

Sherlock Holmes would be so proud of the Internet.

[@Moriartart]

He’d first be horrified by the amount of porn people made of him😭

[@wildasiandude432]

@@Moriartart BRO why would you even say that??? LMFAOOOO

[@lightyagami3492]

@@Moriartart AYYYYYY rule 34

[@FlashReturns]

Without knowledge of the notebook, I dont see Light being caught. In fact he probably wouldn't even need to hide himself with the amount of support he would he get.

[@circa134]

But with all that support L can slip in and see his plans and were he’s at who he is and all that

[@FlashReturns]

@@circa134 It would work both ways. Light could use the internet and his vast amount of followers to figure out who L is, or at the very least the people working with L. I'm not saying Light or L would win, just that they would both benefit and suffer to the way information is spread today.

[@circa134]

@@FlashReturns good point they could probs find out that wammy house exists cuz internet and connect that 2 L

[@Naustix]

Death Note is definitely a product of its time. Would love to see another hardcore deduction show/manga that could handle all of the modern day technology in a compelling way

[@oscaraugustoarangocabrera3835]

Welp, it is, my friend. There's a one shot that shows a short story about a Death Note nowadays

[@ucnguyen6375]

the kid in the one shot actually never use Death Note, he just sell it with the help of a god for advertisement and trading, if he really use it to kill people, the whole world will come for him

[@JadeyCatgirl99]

Light would just use incognito mode. Checkmate!

[@blbradford73]

TheAres1999 that and DuckDuckGo.

[@kaiahosey221]

nice

[@KeyQuantum]

I agree with Bintrux1

[@rainydeestar4806]

@Bintrux1 r/woosh

[@pc_screen5478]

@Bintrux1 unless the vpn company itself realizes kira is using them and immediately releases his IP online

[@closer7735]

I think there are too many factors that disprove this. 1. Trolls and Kira followers will flood the internet with impersonators everywhere. This alone creates a huge wall between light and the internet. 2. Using Tor and other Browsers with good security will likely keep him on the down low. 3. The death note series is extremely unrealistic in one aspect, it doesnt mean much in terms of quality but it is a major factor. The death note is a supernatural device, it will be the last thing anyone would think of. First they would think drug induced heart attacks, then it would be physically induced heart attacks, then disease and after years of research and investigation it will most likely be too late. In your situation the internet would need to know what the death note is and how it functions. 4. Kira would most likely become an organization of followers and start a world wide movement. In the anime, people figured Kira was a single person. But based on the number of deaths, it would be way more likely to assume Kira is some sort of cult following rather than a super villain using an evil notebook. we

[@Topstormking]

I brought up ToR browser in another comment. That coupled with good browsing habits, A homemade VPN, No scripts, No cookies, Changing some things about his online personality etc. Hell, He could make one hell of a fucking rabbit hole with his level of intelligence all thanks to the internet. Whats worse is due to the internet, Which he can use to hide, Physical tracking wont work either. Investigators are then screwed and it's likely his rampage would last for a really long fucking time.

[@ChimpRevolution]

Closer also he could start killing with foreign or unknown diseases the public won't think it's a magic book they will be trying to find a cure to the disease and wouldn't assume it was Kira

[@closer7735]

Vibeguy1052 yeah exactly there are too many factors to ever realistically figure out what or how Kira kills

[@realJoeMavro]

Also, I believe every human who uses the Death Note (my knowledge of Death Note lore is a little rusty, so feel free to correct me) ends up being claimed by a Shinigami. So there would be no one alive to let others know of the Death Note. The amount of theories people would develop about the killings would lead people everywhere and nowhere.

[@Pavilius_]

negativlex32 I have a theory where is just a book drop in earth there no shinigami but it's a book that can kill people Kira achieve his goal the world is in peace there no terroriste etc he can hide the death note somewhere that nobody can find but before that I wrote the location of the death note with a message and then erase his memory but you have to make sure that you can retrieve the death note even if your memory was erased so you can exterminate a new organization criminal that want to rule the world for the memory erased we can say there are a rule in the note if you wrote I forget and for example I am Kira for retrieve your memory I know there a lot of hole in my theory but if was fun to write this theory::)

[@neojenshi4055]

12:44 part of why kira went on for so long was that the japanese wiretapping laws are very strict and despite L going out of his way to still try to wiretap the japanese team didnt want to go overbroad based on this law Whenever you believe google is spying on the people in japan anyway is up to you, however privacy laws are alot different in japan compared to U.S, China etc..

[@Thedarkbunnyrabbit]

Let's talk about the problems with this, starting with my #1 problem with Death Note. The first, almost insurmountable issue is dealt with in Death Note the way zombie apocalypses deal with point B in a zombie apocalypse plan: Proving that criminals randomly dying around the world is being done magically by a person hidden somewhere. In Death Note, they just decide that it's some godlike being doing it, and L decides a person is (somehow, by magic) doing this. But where is the proof? There literally isn't any. Criminals and suspected criminals all having sudden heart attacks mean nothing. Even one who painted in his own blood about 'Kira' wouldn't mean anything (though this was done by Light AFTER L engages him). And here's why: Even if people noticed a huge uptick in prisoner deaths via heart attack around the world, and they decide that this is so unusual it can't be a coincidence, you first need to overcome the number one hurdle that the internet would jump to: Conspiracy. How do you convince the chaotic internet that some person is using magic to kill people via heart attacks, and then start narrowing down method, rules, identity and position when the so much simpler answer is 'a shadow government has decided that there are too many prisoners feeding off of resources in the world, so has started killing people for nefarious reasons'? How do you clear people who are locked off by confidential information when the internet ALREADY believes such a group wants to severely limit population? The government would at least rule out such a thing, but deciding 'it's one person' and not 'it's a group of radical people splintered through the world somehow communicating on the dark web, intentionally targeting specific people' is an INSANE logic jump that is just taken for granted to create the plot of the manga. How do you KNOW it's only criminals? You can track that criminals are dying of heart attacks without any apparent reason, but how do you know that every random heart attack out there isn't involved in that? Are you ruling out unhealthy people? It isn't every *single* prisoner, nor even every single new suspect nor just prisoners in a small area. It's scattered seemingly at random around the world. So how do you decide what the victims are? How can you create a theory that it ISN'T coincidence without a profile consisting of more than 'it's criminals, but not all criminals, people who are just arrested but also convicted people, and many are Japanese, but not all of them'. This continues on with 99% of L's conclusions, which all appear to be 'ingenius' because we know them to be correct and he gives a throwaway explanation for his conclusion which at a glance seems smart. However, if you actually consider them deeply, they're nonsensical conclusions he jumps to primarily out of gut instinct that don't make any sense at all. For instance: What if instead of following Light so we know he did it, we followed Light and knew he DIDN'T do it - instead his neighbor Sebas whose room is right next to Light's is the one who inherited the note and he simply overheard Light's television and conversations each night. Or worse, what if it's Professor M in Scotland who is a genius linguist with a passion for justice and a ruthless streak, he knows about L and that whole establishment, and so he ensures that he throws them off his path by leaving a trail of breadcrumbs that will implicate a Japanese student who knows nothing about him. Nothing that Light uses to suspect L is actually proof that couldn't be done by Professor M from a distance until MUCH later in the anime - and arguably, even by the time N gets there, it could be a story of a kid who's being driven to the edge by a frivolous investigation that literally involves him being tortured and held captive on circumstantial evidence for months, while a puppetmaster works in the background unfettered. This is because L is not a good detective, he's an awful one that happened to stumble into being correct this time, and N is no better. Anyway though, on the subject, the internet would have just as much problem as L would. How can you determine the limitations of magic you can't confirm actually exists? How do you determine the identity of a person you don't know exists, or that it's a singular person instead of multiple people, and how do you determine that he has something *on* him, and that he can't just use an internal power to kill them? (Using a sacrificial lamb, which isn't a good test anyway, wouldn't be available to them) Worse, Light could and would get deeply involved in any 4chan investigation on Kira, which would get him invited into those private servers to deal with it - he'd be one of the top figures, putting forth fake information and using 4chan to dig up the identities of people who get too close to kill them. This assumes 4chan wouldn't flip the opposite way and side with Kira, digging up all the information on the people *investigating* the Kira case and doxxing people. With the real threat of being doxxed by the internet army and then instantly killed by Kira, it would deter even more people from investigating, and make it almost impossible to be able to do any real investigation. And worst of all, even if someone suspected Light as being a mole and someone approached him, having a notebook full of the names of the people who died would actually be *expected* for someone who is at the front lines of trying to figure out Kira's identities. He's meticulous, sure, and the rules would be strange, but there's simply no way anyone would conclude 'if he writes someone's name in this book, they die' instead of 'when someone dies in the Kira case, he writes their name and method of death'. So the whole concept of Light struggling with the new world is predicated on some insane leaps of logic to begin with. However, if we allow for this to just be assumed because Death Note is not reality but a manga set in 2017 and the plot MUST include Light vs The Internet, you're still underestimating Light. Because Light will also be a product of 2017. He's a private person who is raised by a cop. That means in all likelihood, he's already used a VPN, and if he didn't before, will switch to one. He'll use privacy apps and anti-cookie/tracking apps, to prevent his online footprint from being tracked. As for his Facebook likes and his social media profile...that would return a negative. Light *doesn't* have the profile of a serial killer. Even L admits after all his mindgames that aside from some moments of menace and his intelligence, that getting to know Light just makes him seem *less* likely to be Kira. He just continues anyway, because he's so focused on Light being Kira that he comes off as somewhat deranged. One thing they MIGHT be able to do is potentially find evidence of previous uses of the Death Note, but since there's no mention of previous killers being caught, this will actually throw the internet even further off course, making it seem like there might actually be some kind of a divine being orchestrating things, or that there is a family or long-lasting organization which performs cullings of some sort. Certainly not a 17 year old student in Japan who suddenly started killing people one day because he found a magical notebook with a death god attached to it.

[@anon_148]

Very, vey well put.

[@gonderage]

Thanks for that critical examination.

[@IamGrimalkin]

To be fair on L, he fully acknowledges his methods aren't perfect, that's why he only gives a small probability of Light being Kira to start with.

[@dpage446]

Is it sad that I actually read the whole commet

[@Thedarkbunnyrabbit]

@@IamGrimalkin Sure, but lampshade hanging doesn't make it not an issue. L *claims* he's only putting a small percentage of probability toward Light being Kira, but he pursues Light with singular determination as if he's convinced. I know that he allegedly has a method wherein 'any possibility, even a 1% one, must be pursued as a 100% one', but this is nonsense. For one, he doesn't behave in this way - he's not pursuing anyone the way he's pursuing Light, and his methods get increasingly desperate and unreasonable, while we see him do nothing more than a cursory examination of other people. That could mean that L has no one else he suspects at all, but that *still* makes it worse, because he's already said that even one percent suspicion requires 100% effort. To assume he has zero reason to suspect literally anyone else in the world means that not only did he not consider any of the options I put above, he also ignored completely reasonable options like 'another cop on the force is framing the captain's son' and 'someone associated with his own organization who knows how he thinks is doing it'. This means he can't get away from his original suspicion even when it wasn't a conclusion and when Light does things to suggest it's not even physically possible to be Kira (and lacks method + motivation that would make him stand out + unique opportunity). He doesn't seem to even consider 'the police force around me are conspiring to hide a murder train from me and allowing me to suspect someone I can't prove to be guilty'. Plus, of course, you don't prove innocence because that's almost impossible. You prove guilt, and the lack of proof of guilt is treated as proof of innocence. That system is in place to avoid this very situation, where the law wastes all its time harassing someone who they can't prove guilt for and allows the actually guilty party free rein. So, even more tl;dr, L's methods are more than 'imperfect', they're broken to the point of being actively harmful to any investigation he gets involved with. I don't consider it to be an exception with Light, because if he'd had more subtle investigation that spread out to multiple people at once, instead of directly pursuing Light as Kira, Light would have needed to up his game less and have been more prone to repeating mistakes that he instead ended up correcting. Which directly led to not only his own death and the deaths of many others around him, but the years that Kira reigned unchallenged after his death.

[@bocodamondo]

12:43 you are 100% right...this is why i felt it was IMPOSSIBLE how in the new one shot manga, twitter would just let the kiraspower hashtag be around for so long, if it happened in real life, twitter would make that hashtag dissapear in less than an hour and make sure it will never come back again

[@lilfreezie6302]

Unless the actual governments wanted the notebook themselves.

[@DoTheThingDTT]

Miki Jacovic yeah

[@pravinrao3669]

Well then . Twitter ceo mysteriously dies after writing on piece of paper. "I am gonna use a new hashtag. Don't do this again"

[@anvuhoang124]

unless it is an international event that can causes changes to the whole world and your own life don't u think ? shitty stuffs get disappear fast but not the one like "oh shit now donald trump or maybe china have a weapon that is even more dangerous than the nuclear bombs" kind of stuff

[@sewerrat11000]

Man I keep seeing you everywhere

[@touchstone1682]

My dear friend, your entire argument falls apart when you consider that kira's whole sense of justice and intelligence would be different in a more modern world. Considering he is a smart character, he would already know all of this and would have solutions to this. You have massively underrated kira's intelligence. If he was really smart, he could even enter a private it chat.

[@TheNorthernShogun]

How

[@HaggisDruid]

This whole theory falls apart when you consider the fact that Light would likely use Tor, and consistently act normal on all traceable social media accounts and searches. A modern age Light, would have this common sense and more. We'd have to assume he'd take the exact same actions as he did in 2003, but I doubt he would if the conditions were as they are now. Hell, his edgy ass probably would use 4chan.

[@Cosmic_God_Particals]

Exactly. He would know ahead of time to cover his ass. Not to mention I doubt he would have an Instagram or FB. And even If he did it would be to throw people off and have nothing but innocent posts and pics. Too much assumption has to happen for this to work.

[@casualcatharsis3263]

Ever since watching Death Note, I always wanted to see a modern-day adaptation go the route where instead of using the Death Note personally, Kira sets up a Social Media website on the Dark Web built around the concept of using a robot-operated Death Note to automatically kill anyone a large enough portion of the website's user base deems "worthy to die". The only caveat being that you have to verify your own name/face data accurately, and have it freely available for anyone else on the website before being allowed to access the website yourself. Not sure how feasible enforcing such a caveat would be, but the information this video provides gives me hope it'd actually be more reasonable to implement than I'm currently assuming.

[@saraab4782]

Also Light was a hacker then I'm pretty sure he'd still be a hacker now and a good one so he wont be caught that way... why is his ability as a hacker not taken into account

[@furkan1503]

CasualCatharsis you're crazy! Oh my gosh!

[@xpd9961]

The one thing you should know about the internet is that there's always someone smarter and better than you. Light as a hacker would be a joke to some of the groups operating on here, and more importantly, a challenge. The less skilled world would make way for the professionals who would then share the information secretly/publicly anyway. He could try re-routing the information used according to what his computer is logged to find, but they'd just use that obvious tactic against him with decoys plus he'd have to be CONSTANTLY online literally spending 99% of his time on the computer just to circumvent attacks against a collective, uncollective of thousands of sinister and well-meaning members of society, each launching independent attacks in an ongoing race to find him first. Some with access to the time that he needs just by nature of their lives. Light is very human. One obvious attack against him could very well mask one he'd never seen and having one person in the limelight with so much active time online, so much security and all the above-mentioned clues... Not only that but it took him a week to set up basic defense mechanisms should his own family find the book. The one thing you should know about the internet is that there's always someone smarter and better than you, he'd be caught.

[@thebeeghoont7888]

The keyboard is truly mightier than the pen and sword.

[@marluxia8832]

​@Sam Lim How about non-trackable sources of information like newspapers, TV, radio? I don't think Light would even use Internet to look up victims knowing all that. Perhaps he would buy a protected military computer that can't be tracked or hacked, and will heavily rely on anonymizers. I mean, drug and weapon dealers somehow manage to get away with selling drugs and weapons, you can't even find any useful information on them. Criminals simply get more smarter with the technological progress marching on.

[@marluxia8832]

​@Sam Lim Oh please. Here in Russia there are tens of thousands of anti-drug activists, also police fights illegal arms trade with extreme prejudice, going as far as provoking idiots to buy guns while posing as dealers and arrest them. That changed nothing.

[@ucnguyen6375]

@@marluxia8832 Because they are really not as dangerous as Kira for everyone to find them or they have the protection from someone/organization ,... Kira literally has a mass murder supernatural weapon that kill people required only name and face. Every government will want to get their hand on it first, they will do everything and can easily do so just by a week or sooner if the owner of the Death Note is Light.

[@alicemaple8150]

How fast would it take to find out L’s identity is 4chan took Light’s side?

[@RealCoolstriker64]

They probably wouldn’t tho. Teaming with a god? Cringe Dabbing on a god? Based

[@Graid]

Yeah.. imagine if doxing someone could instantly get them killed by Light .. 4chan would absolutely fake that various people they didn't like were L probably though, just for laughs. They'd be constantly sending both L, Light, and each other false leads and doxing the wrong people. Separating the noise from the signal would be a serious problem for all concerned.

[@peenoice5176]

@@RealCoolstriker64 4chan autisticly hates criminals tho.

[@ailospjellok7475]

@@peenoice5176 bro 4chan hates everything

[@3oct1111]

Mug Light, continue his plan and Out L's identity

[@MellowRivers]

This man downplays the fuck out of Light, it's insulting

[@prod.5starr]

Problem one: they would have to see who light is in order to track down his location. Also light would adapt to the modern world anyway. If he had a se one chance in the original death note, he’d win. His loss was not inevitable

[@lewismartin3430]

the fact that he compared 2003 light to the modern world is dumb

[@windhelmguard5295]

am i the only one who remembers that the death note can also be used to control peoples actions, allowing kira to just simply have big tech higher ups change the code of their products to allow for kira to use them anonymously, change their access passwords to incomprehensibly long strings of random characters and then die, thus preventing further access?

[@lewismartin3430]

@@windhelmguard5295 exactly. modern world modern light.

[@windhelmguard5295]

@@lewismartin3430 additionally after light does this once, no other big tech CEO is going to have the balls to do anything about it.

[@typeouetco1626]

@@windhelmguard5295 but he can only do it if "it makes sense"

[@DabusaFloydGenkins]

“I took a potato chip and ate it” Why did I laugh so hard

[@antoniomolina3612]

I cringed so hard

[@therule336]

Why I did also laugh

[@kira-yoshikage_Killer-Queen]

You are not alone

[@Zappy1919]

But what if the google CEO is a Kira supporter (THANKS FOR THE LIKES!!!)

[@MagicGonads]

Imagine what google could do with the death note

[@armoredtitan8600]

we're all doomed if google had death note

[@MikeBNumba6]

Zappy1919 it's not like Google ceo information getting tracked too huh?

[@firetarrasque4667]

And started censoring data without permission to stop people from finding a convicted killer and stop me when this is illegal.

[@buckeyeinblack]

Wouldn't stop /pol/

[@tellybegoin]

The fact that no one still has solved Light Yagamis remaining life span in chapter 5 kinda throws a dent in the whole internet thing

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

WTF!? No it wouldn't!!

[@TiroX517]

Light was never average though, he was insanely smart and the "regular" world bored him out of his mind.

[@korcommander]

TiroX maybe if he has the internet of today he would be a meme God satisfied with leasing the anons to a new world

[@zacharyhollands]

He was also incredibly immature. Watching the show for the second time I paid close attention to this theory that L proposes within a day of working with the Japanese police force, and the truth is there - Light repeatedly made childish displays of power and critical mistakes. Many might say that he left breadcrumbs for his pursuers because he was confident, but in reality, not all of his mistakes came from condescension or even confidence - many of the mistakes he made, the mistakes that played bigger roles in his entrapment than others, came about from ignorance, impulsiveness and carelessness. A good example of this is his impulsive murder of the fake L in episode 3, which led to conclusive proof that not only was Kira a person, but one living withing Kantai prefecture, Japan. A much wiser and more paranoid Light from even a week later would have carefully tried to predict the trap but not the Light of that time, but that's the point - Light was only learning from his mistakes during the most crucial point in his profiling. It's not that he constantly left behind clues because he knew that they couldn't be put together, in fact only in very rare cases did he actually provide information with a completely controlled mindset (like when he had inmates write a series of dying messages), in all other cases he was either unaware that he was making mistakes, or he made them in haste while trying to cover up other mistakes (such as when he reacted to the police profiling him as a student so he changed his schedule; the damage is already done and all he's doing is panicking). If he hadn't been killing with a magical force in the first place, he would have been caught a lot sooner, since the only thing that truly slowed down the investigation was the inability to even comprehend the killing method. L's profilings of Kira and Light Yagami were swift and meticulous. Of course a magical killing method would still stump the internet community, but I fully agree with the video director here, that regardless of that speedbump, his identitiy would be revealed nonetheless and even more efficiently by the internet community than by L.

[@MouseGoat]

"magical killing" would still stump the internet community, sure but not for long. people would just lage on to the first and best theory. and work with that. "someone got a new super weapon" --> "the super weapon is from japan" --> " a student has this weapon". "we found the student!, the weapon is controlled by a book!?" and just like that the internet found him, i could se that going down in les than 3 days. it really comes down to the number of mystick killings. but he would have some run time, as he could kill a good deal of people before the internet took interest. but once it did.... well game over.

[@TheManofthecross]

yea then it is a matter of him trying to do the hackers role and pick off people that way or rely on only a few who he can trust that can do all of the internet stuff and rely info to him so he can cover his tracks that way.

[@natehemmings2230]

TiroX I doubt Light would have a social media account.

[@chubbbyninja]

They really found that man's flags mapping out the stars and flight patterns 💀

[@FonutYT]

Lmao

[@brandonzarakpege5069]

how long was the flag up?

[@fhcidtx]

@@brandonzarakpege5069 for just 4 hours, it took a few hours till it got down

[@meeramalhotra33]

@@fhcidtx Holy crap nugget

[@paulthang9038]

@@fhcidtx only 4 hours???.

[@edivcs6882]

Well, since it's real world, most of the people wouldn't believe in somethin like a death note, especially the police They would try to find a logical explanation for this and thinking about a group or an international organization which kills criminals somehow or something like this

[@Luminethereploid]

Most people would loosen their standards once it becomes clearly impossible for any kind of group to realistically do this. "Some kind of supernatural bullshit is going on" is not impossible to assume when you have thousands of criminals all over the world getting inexplicable heart attacks. It doesn't fit any pattern a disease would have, as no epidemic would exclusively target criminals and have no spread pattern. Not to mention, Light himself would very much be interested in disproving any kind of "disease, pathogen, etc" theories because he wants them to know a being is doing this.

[@edivcs6882]

Sincerely, would you believe in some kind of magical notebook which fell down from the sky because a death god just dropped it and that it could kill people by simply reading their name and knowing how they look?

[@edivcs6882]

And if Light would've been born in this era, he would've been a lot smarter and he would know that disproving any kind of theory would lead to his death. He's not that reckless + His personality would depend on which era he was born If he was born in, let's say 1995 since he had 23 years post timeskip, he would've know a lot about technology. This guy in the video assumed that he wouldn't have known about technology. That is dumb

[@Adveshan]

They could mistakenly go the route of thinking it's a heartattack gun

[@Thenormalguy101]

If a shitton of heart attacks happened all around the world with a pattern to it ONLY TARGETTING CRIMINALS yes, yes i would. if the facts line up, its a possibility.

[@GameHero152]

After having thought about a modern-day Death Note scenario for literal years, I've recently come up with a strategy that Light would be able to use in order to operate as Kira while remaining nearly untraceable. Now, admittedly, this strategy would have to assume a few things. In the original story, Light initially didn't perceive there being any threat to his reign, so he carelessly wrote names in the death note that were all available through local resources and during his free time, two factors which allowed L to very easily narrow down the suspect list to Japanese high schoolers. So, this strategy assumes that after Light discovers that the power of the Death Note is real, he immediately takes to planning and preparation instead of carelessly killing, and that he is aware of the threat that other internet users and massive tech companies pose to him, which, if Death Note were in the modern day, Light would likely be aware of their power to at least some extent. Now, on to the strategy. Following the initial testing phase, Light would need to take a break to ensure that his initial kill, which was locally broadcast in Japan, seems like a coincidence and can't be linked back to him. In the meantime, he needs to covertly stockpile names and faces from a large variety of sources. Luckily, Light has a lot of options available to him. Being the police chief's son and being already on the path to becoming a police officer, having already helped solve some cases, his search history is likely already filled with crime and criminal related subjects, so it likely wouldn't raise any red flags for him to actively search online for criminal names and faces. We could also assume that Light's hacking skills have kept up with the times and he can still access his father's computer, and by extension police databases, without leaving a trace. Meanwhile, other avenues he has available to him are all the news broadcasts that Light can see while he just walks home in the first episode, newspapers which could be harder to track, or he could also make use of his popularity and start dating someone who's into the true crime genre, making it so that he could be searching for criminals using his partner's search history instead of his own and it wouldn't look out of the ordinary. Of course, you may be asking yourself how he would go about stockpiling names and faces? Easy, through a digital camera, making sure that the camera doesn't have any wireless connectivity capabilities. He could easily take pictures of the names and faces of criminals. To be extra cautious, he could also make sure that his purchasing of a digital camera is difficult to trace by purchasing a used camera from a pawn shop or something instead of from a larger store or from amazon. Similarly, he should also buy a second-hand laptop or computer from a similar source to make sure the purchase can't be traced. Light has shown himself to be pretty crafty in the original story, so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that Light would probably be good with computers, not only in terms of software, but in hardware as well, and he could open up the computer he buys and remove any wireless adapters found within to ensure that the computer remains offline. From there, he can safely take the SD card out of his digital camera and open up the files on his computer at any time, while also giving him the ability to encrypt said files in case anybody gets to snooping around his stuff. Once Light has stockpiled a good surplus of names and faces, he should set a specific date and time at which a large amount of criminals worldwide will all die at the same time, especially any good high profile cases he finds, before beginning to kill criminals at a more hourly rate. This initial killing event would serve to immediately get the entire world's attention, which is incredibly important. Two main movements would start to occur online. The first is that internet sleuths would begin investigating the cause of the deaths, and will quickly deduce that Kira needs a name and a face to kill. Once they discover this, given the pace at which information spreads and the prevalence of the newfound Kira case in news and social media, this would quickly become common knowledge. Once that's the case, the second important movement occurs, which is that Kira followers begin to set up websites and social media accounts spreading around the names and faces of criminals everywhere that they possibly can. Given, once again, that the Kira killings are going to be the thing that everyone is talking about, there would be A LOT of online searches for criminals and Kira-related subjects, which would allow Light to more blatantly search for criminal information online, easily slipping in with the large stream of people searching these kinds of things. These Kira followers would be able to provide Light with countless criminals from around the world and from a large variety of sources. As long as Light diversifies where he gets his information from, getting stuff from multiple different websites and social media accounts and not relying on any single one, that is, leaving some criminals from each website alive to make sure that people can't tell Kira is getting his victims from any one website, then he should be untraceable. At this point, Light has established a secure information network without raising any red flags to tech companies, while also ensuring that the police and internet sleuths don't have any good information to work off of other than that Kira needs names and faces. As far as I can think of, this strategy is tightly knit together and allows for safe use of the Death Note with next to no chance of getting caught. If anyone can think of any holes, flaws, or oversights in this plan, I'd love to hear them and be faced with the challenge of addressing them with further planning and preparation.

[@worthlesshuman5041]

Plus, in order to further avoid the eyes of ISPs, Light could also make use of a vpn. If he wanted to be extra careful, he could search up the name of a specific show or movie that isn't available in his country on a streaming service before getting the vpn, giving him plausible deniability as having gotten it for the purpose of watching content and using school wi-fi safely. Unfortunately for Light, there are at least a few problems for him. Firstly, Light likely only speaks English and Japanese. This is problematic because people are going to post criminals whose identities were only broadcast in their region on these forums, thus if Kira kills any person whose name was only brodcast in Japan and posted on a Japanese forum, it can be deduced that Light is at least passably fluent in Japanese. Since many of these local internet forums are inevitably going to be in English anyway, this is mostly ok, however Light has to be careful to either not use any Japanese forums or use a machine translator to kill using forums from around the world. The issue with that, though, is that the names of these criminals might be misspelled by the translator (although this can be circumvented by directly transcribing any symbols) Another issue Light may have is that, especially if he isn't using a vpn, if some equivalent of L suspects that Kira might be japanese, it would be possible to confirm this theory by subtly blocking certain forums from the Japanese web and then deliberately leaking the names of anonymous criminals like Lind L Taylor onto those forums, then seeing if any of them die. I guess the last concern is that if Light screams stuff like "I WILL BE THE GOD OF THIS NEW WORLD, JUST YOU WAIT L" in his room at the top of his lungs, his mom and sister might get a little suspicious

[@battlekid6177]

@@worthlesshuman5041 whit the vpn it wont be suspicions because a lot of people get a vpn just for security

[@jackferdinger4180]

I respect the effort you put in this, nice read. The only strat Kira would need is to just look up names and kill people. Thats it. Like it actually is that simple. There is no feasible, realistic way for anyone to actually determine what or who Kira is, or to even consider that these deaths are the work of a random dude. Let alone actually find him. Light got caught because L existed. People that think like L just do not exist in real life.

[@lazyh-online4839]

1:44 even before the death note, light was never an "average" or "normal" high school student.

[@shanegrayson7961]

Here’s the thing. The internet only found those things because of things seen in a video or heard. This isn’t what light does. He kills them with no warning and no video, tracking this is much harder and something the internet has never done.

[@manunova5929]

Light would need his own share of information to kill. If he used the internet, he could be tracked. If he refused to use the internet, Google might rise the red flag, and even ignoring the last part entirely, that would mean he'd get the names and faces by watching T.V. which narrows down the location quite a bit.

[@Flop_Studios]

@@manunova5929 ever heard of free computer usage at your library?

[@manunova5929]

Yeah, aren't they also just another way to track your daily life by doing this? If you use different computers to look for similar stuff (data on criminals), you might create a divergence and make people think there are multiple people, but your area of activity would still be considerably close to your home, and it might narrow the search area even more than just from testing in a local T.V. It all gets tracked. Using different areas and computers only makes it more obvious that you're doing shady things.

[@AL-lz6px]

@@Flop_Studios Don't you think people would get suspicious if the same guy suddenly just started going to the library computer every day and search for information about criminals while all that is happening?

[@IamGrimalkin]

@Seb Yeah, Light hacked his dad's police database, he would definitely have a VPN.

[@makhalid1999]

The new one shot actually showed how the Death Note won't work today like 2003

[@aleksandra5808]

not really, minoru DID say that light was incredibly smart and if it was him, he'd probably find a way to get around it

[@applesource8261]

What one shot?

[@kabitakar5737]

Yes minoru said that kira would find a way to counter the internet

[@danielzakgaim2764]

Technically he didn't even use it properly, he sold it to the US government.

[@mekingtiger9095]

Dude, Kira vs. The Internet is the single *BEST* "versus debate" I have _ever_ had the pleasure to read, hear or even _think_ in my life! I never knew I needed this so much! A lot better than your typical versus debates revolving around big explosions that I'm already near sick of seeing out there with nearly absolute dominance. You know what? Now I think I really need something like this: A series about someone trying to hide a big unatural secret (doesn't have to be a serial killer with a supernatural notebook) in the modern days from the entire internet! Avoiding calling attention from both the public, the government and the corporations in trying to remain a secret. It can be anything. Even your average Urban Fantasy setting would work. I just wanna see how a "magical secret" would remain undiscovered in our modern society.

[@aryansverses]

On it.

[@pondererofpointlessdreams5029]

Me: *writing down* Ugliest person I know - death from choking Me: *starts choking*

[@Arkangel.98]

Your not ugly your beautiful

[@caleblewis8169]

@@Arkangel.98 You're

[@TheRandomNonsenseMerchant]

Light as a 17 year old in 2017 would've spent his whole life with the internet existing, whereas 2003 Light had more emphasis on TV, phones, old internet etc. due to it being a much newer thing by the time he got the death note. 2017 Light wouldn't even remotely act the same way, would never attempt to draw attention to his age, nationality, profession etc. knowing he would get caught immediately. (I'm assuming he has the same goals, personality etc. as 2003 Light) He would probably use many ways to use the vast amounts of information he could get on other people to frame as Kira, would definitely use a dual public/private internet life, probably going as far as having a public persona on a windows machine while using the deep web and VPNs on a custom linux laptop to do searches he doesn't want L knowing about. 2003 Light is said to be proficient at computer hacking, so 2017 Light would be far, far better. Imagine him actively using modern Wi-fi hacking techniques to trick L into following false leads over and over, or pretending to help with the investigation online with these skills (as he does in person in the original).

[@TheRandomNonsenseMerchant]

I'm going on the assumption that his core philosophy while operating as Kira is "criminals are evil and deserve to die" and therefore this dictates how he uses the death note. I would assume 2017 Light is extremely knowledgeable about google etc. handing out people's personal information and would therefore be very paranoid and aware about what he says to what person online, especially over public forums. In the end he would end up like the ultimate SJW, with the mentality of "anyone who doesn't think like me deserves to die" but I don't think would he be like that in the beginning.

[@moetezouelhazi5699]

tom 12935 welp if lets say like the show we get no more wars and a 70% decrease in crimerate i woudnt mind having an egotistical SJW thinking he was a god for the remainder of his lifespan , infact it seems like a pretty good deal

[@coltondodger]

Another Big thing, is that he could hide his existence by using multiple people.

[@TheImaginaryAxis]

I can agree with the idea that Light might act differently in modern day, but the problem is that I am not Light. I cannot accurately predict what different choices he would make in today's times. In fact, I'm afraid that if I _did_ do that and this video played out as "Light would probably try to do A,B,C, but that wouldn't work because of X,Y,Z", people would probably just accuse me of underestimating Light and making poor choices in his name, all while claiming that he would just be smarter than me and use a method I had not thought of. Basically, people were going to say "Light would find a way around it" no matter what, so I had to go with just following the original events and taking few liberties with the character.

[@TheImaginaryAxis]

No, none of the responses have really changed my mind or even brought up anything I was not aware of before making this video. They usually boil down to things like "He would use a VPN or Tor", "He would not use social media/his social media would be indistinguishable from a normal person's", "4Chan requires video or photo evidence", "The internet would support him", or "Light's just so smart, he would come up with a way around everything". None of these arguments really work. Using a VPN or Tor could help you escape Google's watchful eye, but it also looks incredibly sketchy for the Police Chief's son to start booting up a VPN around the exact same time the Kira case begins. Not using social media is incredibly unlikely when you consider that social media covers more than Facebook and Twitter. Our comments right now are a form of social media. So are purchases on Amazon, views on Netflix, any online communities your school might have- practically everybody in the civilized world uses a form of social media that is tracking you and storing your information. The idea that said social media would be indistinguishable or Light would be capable of somehow hiding his change in behavior over social media is even more absurd. Social media does not only analyze you based off of simple things like whether you Liked the Democratic Party's official Facebook page. They can draw correlations about your personality based on Liking pages that seem completely irrelevant like Curly Fries (that's not a hypothetical- that was actually a page used in the study this video referenced), subtle changes in your speech pattern online, subconscious things like the colors of the ads that you're responsive to, physiological changes that Light has no control over (within the first five days of using the Death Note, he lost 10 lbs from the sheer added stress), etc. It is literally impossible for Light to hide all of those things because it is extremely unlikely that he understands the correlation between all of them, some are subconscious things he has no control over, and some are physiological changes that he can't do anything about! On the subject of 4Chan, I see absolutely no reason that they or any of the other online mystery hunters would not be able to track down the same information L did even faster. Mathematics and repeated studies just show that the number of people working on that case would likely lead to L's conclusion in a fraction of the time. He's very smart and very dedicated, but he just can't match thousands of people looking for a lead at once and coordinating their efforts. As for the internet supporting Kira... Sure. Some of them would doubtlessly cheer him on or try to help him out, but the internet is incredibly diverse in opinion. You'd be hard-pressed to find anything 80% of the internet agrees on. To suggest that 100% would agree with Kira is outrageous. And there are just so many people online that as long as the numbers are _decently_ split, there will definitely be investigations going on against him coordinated by thousands of people. Now, there is a scenario here in which you could argue some sort of cyber war would break out between Kira supporters and Kira detractors, but the internet also has efficient and widespread methods of segmenting its own communities from the open web, as discussed in this video. Kira supporters could not reasonably interfere with every single Kira investigation as there would be too many of them to hunt down, and some would be in private areas supporters cannot access. And of course, the last problem... Well... I think I covered that pretty thoroughly above. The truth is that I anticipated some level of discussion about these subjects in the comment section, but there just wasn't anything I could do about it. Sure, I _could_ have gone into detail about the deep web in the video and why that would be risky. I _could have_ brought up the subject of Kira supporters clashing with Kira detractors. I _could have_ spent more time emphasizing that I was not suggesting Light would post a photo or video of him using the Death Note but instead that the internet collaborates and uncovers details very efficiently. Heck, I even originally had segments in this video that were meant to discuss how the government can listen in on your phones and track exactly where they've been even when powered off or how most modern televisions can be hacked to listen in on private conversations 24/7, but I didn't include any of that. Why? Because the video was already bordering on 18 minutes, and I considered it more important to make the episode entertaining than to make an iron-clad argument about catching Light. If I were to really list off every single reason that Light is unsafe in the modern world and explain every counter he could possibly make along with the explanation for its ineffective nature, this video would be a 45 minute long nightmare... and people would still insist things along the lines of "Light is a genius. He'll think of a way around it that you didn't mention."

[@marksunboxingzone]

It would be harder to find without the Death Note anime ever existing. Most of this is based on the assumption people won't truly believe there is some sort of evil god or deity killing people and just quickly assume 'oh, it's probably some kid with a killer notebook, let's go find him'. Although if Kira did kill Lindner on a broadcast for only that part of Japan, it might have given the internet a vital clue. Also if Light only killed people at completely random days and times, and in all sorts of different ways, instead of everyone dying by random heart attack all at once, there would have been less attention draw to himself. His biggest problem is he WANTED to be recognized as some sort of deity of force or justice. I would assume as humans, most of us would want some sort of recognition of something like that, similar to how the Joker wants to be absolutely sure Batman knows he did something and not some other criminal, but the real smart way to pull of being Kira is by not being Kira at all and do everything as lowkey as humanly possible.

[@planets9102]

you miss the point, Light also reduced crime through fear of death, he could not write down enough names fast enough to kill all criminals individually, but he can still reduce it by a huge amount by killing like 1/10th of them and let fear of death do the rest of the work but for that he'd need to show the world that someone is doing this: KIRA however he'd still be able to just stay low and not make it obvious that he has ties to the police for example and he'd and not killing the FBI agents and screaming: I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO THE FBI WERE INVESTIGATING and just stay low and shut up and maybe move to a place (after he's finished studying) quite far from his family to give himself more time to kill and make it less obvious.

[@yourmother5810]

@@planets9102 it was never obvious. The plot was on L' s side. Literally the only way he was able to figure out so much.

[@Oznerock]

@@planets9102 His plan there was to get L to talk to him person to person because he wanted to be a suspect - but not for there to be evidence. He wanted to kill L so he needed a name and a face. So he was giving L information on his own terms pretty much.

[@Knightwolf1994]

The biggest problem is all those 4Chan examples were solved because there was video evidence to track those terrorists and Shia Lebouf. Kira wouldn't have a live stream or anything like the Riddler. Also like in the show most people either wouldn't care or even cheer him on since he's killing criminals.

[@SERGEANTTOMATO]

You have to take into consideration the fact that no one really knows how Light kills in the first place, How would they pick up evidence to charge Light even if they suspected him earlier. He could always give up ownership and have Ryuk take the note back to the Shinigami realm. What happened in the original was that light wasn't concerned about the fact that they suspected him or he was being noticed, he knew that they had nothing on him to suggest how he killed this way. Who honestly would be looking for someone writing the name of another person in a notebook as a means to kill?

[@samueldimmock694]

The thing about people on the Internet is that some people won't care how he's killing them--you don't need evidence to charge him unless you plan to go to the authorities, and why do that when it would be so much funnier to just upload a video of you mugging him? Of course, it might take a while for them to figure out that it's the Death Note killing people, rather than some assassin-for-hire service on the Dark Web or something.

[@rosestar1324]

Yeah that's a fatal flaw, almost no one would suggest Light has a magical note book. This case would look like a conspiracy theory. I don't even think authorities would even look into this. They would examine the bodies of the heart attack victims and just said they had an unexplainable death. People would probably more quickly assume some governments organization was killing people instead of one guy with a note book.

[@saleemabusalamah6238]

i was not convinced till the flag part

[@scattr7592]

Saleem Abusalamah Ikr! Im now more paranoid then ever!

[@moaningconservatives1616]

I hated those trolls cmon it’s reasonable to hate Trump

[@pgvk97vk24]

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't even matter to them wether or not it's reasonable but just do it for the lulz. They're Trolls and Trolls gotta troll.

[@TheLastWizardOfTheCentury-u7o]

They are quite talented tbh. But they are fucking stubborn and annoying, fucking trolls

[@sauce777]

No way, Light would def use a VPN at minum, and his victims would be world wide. I believe it would be almost impossible to narrow it down.

[@SlothofBangkok]

Yes, until they realize he is using VPN and narrow down his lest by the subscription fees. If that happen I give him four days. Why would a police chief son suddenly subscribe to VPN before global mass murder?

[@noveske6305]

Look how long it took them to find that Icepick killer guy when they had video of him doing the murders, and hard evidence, but no face

[@eldritchart716]

@@SlothofBangkok For the same reason that probably millions of other people subscribed to a VPN in the month before global mass murder.

[@SlothofBangkok]

Eldritch Art True thought

[@iRuckiz]

everyones talking about the absurdity of Light and what he would do no ones talking about the fact that L is far more unlikely to exist as a person than Light is. A detective that comes from a genius orphanage funded by a multi millionaire (possibly billionaire) that solves crimes the highest intelligence agencies in the world can't solve from his bedroom? Yeah not buying it. If light were to exist today he'd adjust to our modern technology and work in a way that can't be traced and he wouldn't have some mega genius like L tracking him down. Edit: you guys are forgetting that people like terrorists avoid the cia and military how? By NOT using technology, going off the grid. I'd bet Light wouldn't go near a computer for death note related purposes and while everyone is trying to track online searches of criminals he'd go old school, if a terrorist can go undetected so can Light Yagami lol

[@kylecornett5222]

The internet also really opens up his options of people to kill which would make his targets way less predictable. He would be a lot less likely to target people that would help indicate where he lives. It would also be less obvious that he needs faces because who he could kill would include almost everyone with the internet. The real problem as you mentioned would be the search history

[@lightyagami3492]

Which is why you use TOR to look up criminals. That why your search history isnt being logged and your IP changes everytime with the click of a button.

[@Yuke1]

People seem to forget that Light didn’t take precautions when he started out, because he didn’t believe the Death Note would work. It was just a joke to him. He’s not omnipotent. The immediate conclusion that he was a highschool student from an exact town would be made based on the circumstances of his first victim’s death.

[@SmartAss4123]

What if the first victim is a well known worldwide criminal. And how would anyone be able to distinguish one heart attack from millions per day? This is such a ridiculous line of thought

[@brendonw456]

No...God no...they would be able to determine he's in Japan. That's it. The first killing gives no information that he's a high school student, because that info was derived from the TIME OF DAY that ALL of his killings were taking place. One death could not determine that on its own. And they could not determine his town because that crime was broadcast on LIVE NATIONAL TELEVISION

[@wizzarior]

in the one shot manga they said light would adapt to this

[@lunacylunacy1217]

What if Light uses TOR browser

[@dinamosflams]

Ok Fine, 2 months

[@alexwr]

I've heard that TOR is compromised though...

[@hennyblack635]

He'd need a VPN too

[@raymints9583]

If I was Kira - I'd buy VPS with bitcoins using Tor and set OpenVPN (or something similar) there. Then I would go online to look for criminals and check news on Kira using VPN via Tor only. Of course it won't work if I use Windows 10 or macOS - so I would buy another computer and install Linux there. Also I would use pgp to encrypt my emails or, if I needed a messenger, I would use Wire, Signal or Threema (and I would make them work trough VPN via Tor as well).

[@Hhuiza0]

google still could track down when you entered to the thor browser download page

[@salahshinigamiamv9814]

Personally "if i have kira's philosophy" I'd be honest and use the internet to my advantage and spread my cause more worldwidly and get potentially hundreds or even thousands of supporters

[@lopresti101]

You know Death Note would be over if L just looked up Light's search history, right?

[@lopresti101]

At least in modern day.

[@paulmerg]

Why

[@snapzstorm]

TheEpicFailix they would find how light searches up every criminal that have died

[@SanvelloSerapiega]

TheEpicFailix the names of all the people killed are what he looked up

[@bait8112]

Cap. Orange Soghda McGuffiepans Also the time he looks at the websites matches perfectly

[@Godonstilts]

A nice theory, but this entire thesis is underpinned by the fact that "Kira" uses the internet a) already, or b) will continue to use it. Millions of people quit social media all the time - but then, he doesn't even have to 'quit' the internet, just continue using it as he has done normally - and be restrained in using it to look for information to further his cause which will itself be giving information about his profile. Information is the key here - all of these 'puzzles' are solved by information being leaked through some sort of media i.e. pictures, video, sounds, etc. So... lets take Light, as Kira, and put him in 2017 - with all his deductive powers. I'm fairly sure he would have already considered the 'power of the internet' and ensured he didn't do anything to start leaking his information. Shia Le Bouf for example, was constantly streaming online - i.e. giving people the information, they just had to decipher it. Remember, this information has to be digitised to be shared. So... i just wrote a name in my notebook, with pencil, in my room, with no webcams, etc. What name did i write? C'mon "4chan" figure it out - they can't. Why? Because at this stage, (apart from they don't care) there is no other information about the scenario. Unless he googled "Who are the current top 100 criminals today" - which, I would argue he wouldn't be dumb enough to do in 2017. Instead, he can read physical newspapers - a normal daily routine for millions still; or just watch the news, which again is a normal routine for millions. If he keeps his other actions analogue, then he won't be leaking any digital information, through which he can be tracked. Also bear in mind, that as this "Phenomenon" is happening, people will be coming up with all kinds of weird conspiracy theories about how it is happening - with "Someone with a magical notebook" ranking pretty low on the scale of probability, as people start crying "Russians & poisons" or some such actually plausible theories. Yet, information will be rampant, and as this captures attention, you could well argue it would be easier to hide in plain sight. Tell me that you wouldn't be reading more into his, if this were happening: "Newsflash ... many of the worlds top criminals are dieing from unexplained heart attacks" "The internet: Hey, this is weird, lets start a poll to see if we can guess who is next" ... queue all the forums buzzing with information about criminals. Also queue the bookmakers taking bets. Also queue those who would side with "Kira's" philosophy of justice, and simply start creating forums of people they want dead (c.f. Brooker's excellent Black Mirror with the robot bees). And so on... Just because some things have been solved by nerds in 4chan - doesn't mean all things have been solved. It took years to bring down Silk Road's 'Dread Pirate Roberts' for example. There are smart ways of using the internet, and there are dumb ways of putting yourself out in the spotlight. A calculated user, would think long and hard before sharing any information - including thinking how to use, or change their use of the internet. As for "Shia le beouf" watching the forums to anticipate leads, remember Light joined the squad that was tracking 'Kira', i.e. infiltrated from within, not simply observed from external. Just join 4Chan, and be one of the 'detectives'. TL;DR - Just behave normally, and don't use the internet for any "Death note research" until that itself becomes the norm.

[@konohahurricane07]

I think you've overlooked one thing. That those internet trolls, because they're trolls, would actually spend their time and energy trying to figure out who L is, not Kira. They're extremists that would mostly side with Kira's sense of justice over L's.

[@mikamiteru3281]

Oh dear lord, I love the internet for this xdd The internet summarised in one sentence: Lets just fuck the world in the ass just for some laughs.

[@jonbbaca5580]

Damn, very good point

[@kyriss12]

I think Imaginary axis had the right idea about the weaponized autists of 4chan hunting down Kira simply because the thought of tracking down a self proclaimed god, and giving him shit would be to tempting to pass up, and damn the morality. Hell I'm pretty sure most of the people who trolled Shia Lebauf could give two shits about politics. They saw a celebrity who was getting a little to full of himself online, and decided to knock him down a peg, for no reason other than it was fun, and they had nothing better to do at the time.

[@dirhammohamad3890]

that i agree, but L is a goverment asset, gov will say any absurd things to cover L existence. Kira on the other hand, he's alone. it's only take 1 troll to uncover him and Lights face will be parade all around the world.

[@djgamez1412]

pretty sure half the internet would be trying to find kira and half would be trying to find L

[@jonatankornievsky632]

0:14 ,yo is that the third journal from gravity false?

[@daveboyd4563]

But what if you make fake updates, artificial searches, like and dislike against your opinions, post photo that aren't yours and blur line between joking and sincerity and then what how will they know what's real

[@francescamercedesguilliod4767]

It feels like a rather sloppy way to deflect further scrutiny by suddenly displaying a completely different personality right around the time Kira shows up.

[@daveboyd4563]

Francesca Mercedes Guilliod no you'll have to do it over time as not set off any red flags

[@TheSupperteen]

Dave Boyd are you planing to use the death note?

[@vicilyjohnson]

Francesca Mercedes Guilliod but what if your personality is different from the net to irl and not to mention how many internet personas are LITERALLY the same

[@daveboyd4563]

Vrush_ 3 that's an interesting point but I'm talking about a huge difference this includes little details that would transfer through persona like sense of humor for example

[@bbax1276]

No. The popularization of the internet would only help in making Light even more untraceable. The only way he died was when he had messed up and couldn't kill Near, accidentally revealing his identity to him. He would have never had to meet up with Near when they coauld have simply talked over internet. On top of that, he could also use the internet to go worldwide, ad never have to worry about people tracing him. I personally believe that if Death Note had actually taken place in the current day instead of 2003-10, he not only would have succeeded, but done it flawlessly, creating his own world through the power of the internet.

[@goroakechi6126]

Light could infiltrate one of the surely many cults online through a hacker he had killed and ask for data on Near, and they’d get his name, face, and medical history along with every other Whammy’s kid within the week.

[@adamaz7102]

In the modern day world, anyone could use the death note with no trouble at all. First of all, with internet, he could kill people everywhere in the world so nobody and I say nobody could know he is in Japan which makes it 100000x times harder. Moreover, in real life, people would never ever think that any surnatural events could explain the deaths. The argument with 4chan users is even dumber, he says they can solve everything but he literally shows problems that are solved with the use of pictures and angles and images, they never even found guys like the Anonymous which we saw with our eyes many times. So how the heck would they find someone that could be one guy out of 8 billion people without any pictures of him ? The only way for them to get a picture of him would be if he is seen though a camera writing with a death note and even there, I hardly believe anyone would suspect a guy writing in any notebook to be so suspicious that they would recover the recordings of the camera. Also, all I said is knowledge that even a average guy could understand, so let's not even think about Light Yagami cause he would never get caught by cameras knowing he has 200 IQ lmao

[@pillowboy7995]

@@goroakechi6126 Near already made sure to delete all that information so wouldn't work.

[@sir_mystic4127]

@@pillowboy7995 The park where you said "no one would ever think think it's sum supernatural is wrong it'll take a while but eventually they'll give in especially they start somehow losing loved ones or sum one close to them despite if there bad or not

[@breania_inekora5069]

I don't really think about the "flawless" part. Mostly because Light's logic is flawed from the beginning, or he never really wanted the crimes to stop so he could continue his ego trip. e.g. if there's a machine making faulty product, you wouldn't blame the product for being faulty. You'd most likely - I hope at least - go and fix the machine, so that the product would end up right. he would achieve nothing, but continue his ego trip. he would still die pretty young (there's a rule after the one saying that shinigami can us the remaining years of someone's life for their existence, literally saying (at least in the English and German translation) that when using the death note you shorten your lifespan). Ryuk would still get bored and off him himself. (also I find the comment saying that 4Chan would mug Light and play the deadliest game of hot potato with the Death Note, to just be really funny)

[@R3fug333]

"This guy, literally, might be insane." Alluding to a new video?

[@gleb4dead93]

Let's grab a character from 2006 and put in the 2017 and that somehow will proves that Kira would be caught in a week, well what else you expect from a guy with superheroes as a painting, nothing but a stupid bullshit.

[@jcnom6606]

Pretty sure 4chan would support Kira

[@fhjdghcfhc1936]

jack happ dude, it's the chance to take out the closest thing to a GOD, I'm pretty sure they would pounce on the chance

[@AdrianGhastly]

4chan would support, but if you’ve ever been on /b/ then you’d know that a good investigation just to see who the illusive Kira is would peak their interest

[@efkanematnals736]

4chan isn't a collective. They wouldn't ALL support him

[@AdrianGhastly]

Efka N Ematnals but enough of them would to get the job done

[@claireclaire9588]

They'd act like they support him then track him down and mug his ass, take his notebook and do way more damage than a single guy having it could do.

[@fujudge9003]

I get where u getting. But light is also intelligent, I really wanna know what he'd do to combat the internet tbh.

[@unwantedmacguffin5611]

"None of that fair law and order stufff L sticks by." Have you seen the show L constantly makes legally and ethicaly gray choices.

[@JC-yu1lf]

If light got the notebook now, he would have noticed that the internet is catching up way faster than L, so he wouldn't have driven himself into finding L as a egotistical battle of wits, for him it would have been easier that he remains anonymous and just keep writing the names. Like even if the internet knew it's a student doing all of this, what could they do, people would have no idea that there's a notebook and a shinigami involved in this. Light still would have continued writing the names and become the "god of the new world" which he wants...

[@antoniomolina3612]

Bro you think light wouldn’t know about all the nuances of technology and stuff if he was born in 2003? Like yo he was the #1 high school student in Japan. He’d be able to cover his tracks sufficiently

[@teekanyel5656]

Still, fighting 1 guy, and fighting 100 guys equally as smart as that 1 guy is a lot more difficult than one can think. Keeping up with the intelligence of, let's say, only L and Near would be endgame for Light.

[@antoniomolina3612]

@@teekanyel5656 sounds like u agreed with me?

[@rahad5]

And what that going to change? He is still going to face 10000 and more genius all over the world. the manga made it L vs light. In modern era, it will be the world vs light. And why light would have super hacking skill? he did not plan on becoming a criminal... the death note fall near his school.

[@Seven_DB]

@@rahad5 Except those geniuses are not him. L stopped WW3 at 8, solved the most difficult cases in history with no effort and had a taskforce working with him and still was outsmarted by Light at almost every turn. Most of the time Light got caught was because of other people's slipups or risks he took in order to fight L. Near is even smarter than L and had the same information on the Death Note as Light + he was working with Mellow so you have a combo that creates the smartest person on the planet and Light still only lost because of Mikami's slipup.

[@rahad5]

@@Seven_DB WTF are you talking about? Since when did L stopped ww3? Where on earth did you read that? The story also heavily focus on Japan and we barely see the rest of the world. You do know some genius graduated universty around the age of 15-18 Right? Light did not advance or graduate early from school. He also did not plan to become Kira. His lack of exeperience will got him capture. Light would not survive in a realistic world lol. The whole world will be against him. The whole world not just ''Japan''.

[@yungcrowley6415]

But light could make a bunch of discord accounts and fool them

[@lazerbeam1673]

"OH BOY THERE'S THIS GUY WITH 134 DISCORD ACCOUNTS IN SIMILAR AND/OR SAME SERVERS, SURE DOESN'T RAISE A RED FLAG TO ME"

[@dasnogood2051]

King Killa , oh look 100 accounts trying to join our discord server with the same ip address totaly not kira trying to spy on us

[@zacharyhollands]

could be a bot tbh, that's a thing. i mean, you wouldn't want bots lurking in your server either, but Kira's not the only nor most likely scenario.

[@grantharriman284]

you can certainly get into some groups, but you will never get into them all. He can certainly slow them down, but they will find him pretty fast either way. Also, that is a beacon for authorities to hone in on if he does it.

[@IIIGioGioStarIII]

There would be hundreds possibly even thousands of Kira discords. He would only need to go into the major ones. And even then it would be pointless in trying to get into all of those discords. And to everyone else, clearly you don't have discord because you don't need to make a new account to join in a new group

[@kirazakki308]

If we are keeping 2003 light a genius, then a 2017 light would take all these steps into consideration and more. Nice try though.

[@baselmahmoud3912]

I think you missed the point of the vedio

[@thedarkderp2520]

ok this you're basically saying "but ma anime character has the smarts" like come on think logically

[@Riskofrain527]

@@thedarkderp2520 he sounds like itachitards sucking off itachi.

[@mikewalker678]

Light was actually a dumbass. Anyone with more self-preservation instincts than pride could have kept on way longer than Light ever did.

[@amaanmehta214]

The Dark Derp but y’all are acting like he’s an absolute idiot and isn’t capable of adapting to his time. He has the death note he also has the fucking internet and access to live news in any country he wants, he can just kill people in different countries or focus on another country to throw people off. Also merely taking a break for a week or more after his first kill and starting again would also help throwing people off so idk how ppl can just assume there is no way he could pull it off.

[@rob0saur]

Light, being light, would have taken this into account and would have found some way to shake this. I think a lot of his choices would have changed based on the accessibility of information