Is MSFS2024 Worth It TODAY? - Sim Showcase (The Good & Bad!)

[@aapje]

I'll just be patient and check back on it in a few months.

[@theflightsimulationexperie6894]

Exactly what I’m doing. Smart man!

[@GinoFoto]

MSFS 2024's performance is heavily reliant on internet stability and speed. For those with a reliable, high-speed connection, the game's technical foundation is solid. However, the transition from MSFS 2020 has introduced new challenges. Many advanced features, which functioned seamlessly in the previous iteration, now exhibit instability, unreliability, or complete failure. This has significantly complicated IFR simulated flights, making them more demanding, but in the unpleasant way.

[@goalski134]

well said

[@theldraspneumonoultramicro405]

spent a few hours in the game and personally not ran into any issues, however, i have also not seen anything they could not have added to MSFS2020 through a 20-30 dollar dlc, i dont belive the excuses they gave for not being able to add the new things to 2020 version, i wholy belive they made a new game for the sales. but i have seen videos and screens of issues that should not by any means exist in a day 1 release version.

[@andy70d35]

Agree 100% REX add-ons for MSFS, 2020 plus airports for ORBYX etc make 2020 into what is should have been.

[@Mikinct]

Again, these are your assumptions. I'm not a software programmer either. Besides career mode I think that ovalhauling the engine si it now fully supports multi core being multi threaded could be game changer on its own merit. So by adding new ground satellite photogrametry & 3d rocks & pebbles. All take a large hit. Multi threaded helps.

[@nigeltaylor58]

Totally agree at the moment MSFS2024 is very buggy in its current form, but so was MSFS2020 when it came out. It will improve in time as did MSFS2020 did. It is also very different in the set up and menus to MSFS2020 which is also a learning curve and what we need to adapt to to enjoy this new simulator. I was quite impressed with sitting in cockpit of Boeing 747-8 at Exeter Airport being battered by Storm Bert in Live Weather there was movement from gale force winds and from camera view outside the main wings were flexing in the gale force winds. Living close to Exeter Airport the clouds and rain were a close match to the current weather outside. However a couple of days ago we had a covering of snow on the ground and in MSFS2024 the ground surfaces including grass looked like a normal Autumn day, there could have been frost on the ground in the Sim or on the static aircraft. Also I’ve experienced rain at airport but runway and taxiway was dry in Sim. Buildings still look like Microsoft default buildings. But I think MS2024 is worth it and given time it the bugs will be sorted and gamers need to get used to the way to enjoy this new Flight Sim.

[@nigeltaylor58]

PS, forgot to mention my internet speed is 40MB/s. And I use XBox Series X with Thrustmaster Hotas One controller which was a bugger to configure as throttle and elevator costs were inverted. I’m now in process of setting my mouse up which is extremely sensitive.

[@andyfolds2271]

Hi, I did the same in 2020, I live in Dunkeswell, which on Thursday we had 4 inches of snow. So I set up a flight from EGTU with live weather and was just rain and fog. I was going to buy 24 for my birthday next week, but after reading reviews I'll delay it a few months. I brought an Air Fryer instead of an Air Flyer. lol.

[@alanharris2799]

I didn’t preorder and had already decided to wait until February 2025 when I expect a lot of the issues to be resolved. And being honest, this launch has gone exactly how I expected it to. Asobo and Jorg are clearly very passionate about the sim, but their execution is often poor, it was in 2020 were they constantly broke things with each update (new London photogrammetry and the river Thames for example). It seems this lack of QC had continued and the sim was in no way ready for release, not withstanding the infrastructure issues (which are unforgivable IMO). I had huge reservations about the cloud centric approach, and it seems this has been realised sadly. I am sure it will improve, but at this point I refuse to pay for 2024 and I’m perfectly happy in 2020.

[@sammy_twoshoesaviation]

Honestly I am going back to MSFS2020 where all of my addons are and where I know the sim will always work. I feel like MSFS2024 was rushed out of the gate and is not quite ready for people to play. I will check back in a month or so when the sim has been updated and things fixed.

[@JoeDFWAviation]

And also the default aircraft are encrypted so no modding or liveries by the community 🙃

[@frograilfanning]

@@JoeDFWAviation i believe once they work out the issues you will be able to download the aircraft to your hard drive.

[@swisscowswiss]

Yeah no freeware liveries was a deal breaker for me in the meantime

[@MrHaaspaul]

THEY REALLY NEED TO COME OUT WITH A “OFFLINE MODE” VERSION OF THIS 2024 sim !

[@cursecat111]

I did the $1 for 2 weeks gamepass with $15 AUD monthly subscription. I agree that it's a disappointment. It is a real pain to try and get all the controls to work properly! some of the scenery is better but others are average and/or the same to me as MSFS2020.At this stage I'll probably cancel before the 2 weeks trial is up then wait till next year to see how it improves. I'm sure it will slowly improve but I don't have the patience to keep it while waiting. Thanks for another great Vids.Cheers.

[@bootstrapflyer]

Unstable! Wow. My experience so far. Up to date playing everyday, I have had no CTD,s. I did have a low bandwidth warning at peak player period. Flights at dawn and dusk are just outstanding with the lighting changes. The career mode is a game changer. Having the ability to get out and walk around. There are many subtle changes that make a huge difference from FS2020. I like it.

[@Robert_Shannon]

I've held back from purchasing MSFS 24 since it first released just to get feedback first. So happy I did.

[@seattime4075]

Agree, still allot to fix, with the 'cloud' not very reliable for many people. Hopefully things will improve, so happy to wait, as I like what I see so far.

[@philshifley4731]

Took very little time to install. Runs buttery smooth with no stutters. I setup my hotas with primary flight controls in about 5 minutes. Ran for about an hour with no crashes. I've been simming a lot longer than most and I had no issues with 2024. I did see a few graphic glitches but nothing major. I have 500 mps internet service and screen load times were not bad at all.

[@raymondgoubet]

I agree with you 100%. I use TrackIR: the first time I am in the map OK, but it works when looking at the Earth. But when coming back to the Earth after a flight, looking slightly away from the Earth's center, the Earth starts spinning around me like crazy. *FS2024 has NOT, I repeat NOT been tested!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

[@Petercrossed]

F9

[@raymondgoubet]

@@Petercrossed I did this but it continues!

[@Heebyy]

im prob gonna get it on xmas to hopefully skip all the bugs

[@dbvetter7485]

I think the largest problem for me is the constant need for high Internet though put. I don’t get the bandwidth through wireless. I would with Ethernet cable. But I can’t use a cable permanently without my apartment owners getting involved ( which they don’t agree too). I’ve been flying X-Plane for 16 years so I’m not really concerned about MSFS, I’ll never buy it, just pointing out the internet connection is not as sophisticated as it needs to be for MSFS 2024. I watched a famous streamer today flying 2024, constantly waiting for textures to load. Took 15 minutes just to get into a plane. CTD constantly. I miss the DVD days😅.

[@_TrueDesire_]

⁠ get a new router and/or a new wireless NIC. I play with 5 GHz just fine, I imagine 6 GHz would be even better. Turn off power saving on your network card, set preferred wireless band, turn off “green internet”. All settings are found in device manager.

[@izakeasley7414]

Just loaded into the pmdg. It is BUTTER. U can use the pmdg 737 if u bought through marketplace

[@Wazzman70]

It looks as though PMDG are not thrilled about this at all,they do not believe their aircraft are ready going by the statements made on their forum.

[@izakeasley7414]

@ yea I made that statement too early. I tried to do a flight and the parking break was off but it was on somehow. And the brakes didn’t work. Was stuck going 5 knots lmao

[@Canadian76]

Great video but I’ll be staying with FS2020 for quite awhile yet. I want to fly not report bugs.

[@captricharddee3634]

I had no sounds in the cockpits, so I went into settings, sound and noticed simulated Headphones were set. Unchecked it and now I have sounds.

[@PilotStudd]

Glad it’s working for you! Sadly, that doesn’t work for me, it’s a server issue at the moment!

[@danielrobinson724]

@@PilotStudd not a great solution but what I did was a re install and sounds worked fine

[@Jersey.Al101]

I still can’t get into free flight, and I have 1gb internet! I’ve given up, just been using 2020, no stress, still looks great and no problems

[@EbonySeraphim]

4 or so months after buying MSFS2020 Premium Deluxe for $130 back in 2020, the sim became unstable and crashed to desktop between 0-15 minutes into any flight. I waited it out rechecking after multiple major updates for 3 year going back to playing my primary (combat) flight sim DCS, and it never got better. I even got another motherboard because I was having USB connectivity issues that was observable in DCS. No luck. I spent that much (a bit more for a premium local city), and didn’t even expect it to blow me away. Just offer the ability to casually fly around a more civilian inspired virtual world in simpler aircraft and it didn’t even deliver that. Even when MSFS ran, despite the fact that the world has zero interactivity, and looks worse in many areas and altitudes than DCS, it ran worse despite 5950x/4090/64GB specs. I’m not making that mistake again on a promise. They’re going to need a killer feature and I’ll see where the community thinks this thing is in a year before dropping a dime.

[@andy70d35]

Cant compare DCS to MSFS both very different, DCS is military where MSFS is GA and Civil aircraft, x-plane is the only one I believe that offers both types of flying, not used it for many years.

[@EbonySeraphim]

@@andy70d35 I didn't make a general "which is the better" sim comarison. I made a software quality comarison. One crashes, the other doesnt. I don't care that MSFS has "worse sim qualities" in some respects than DCS -- truly. I don't care for super accurate fligth sim models, of course it doesn't do weapons, damage, and mission scripting around that, etc. But the "little" I needed MSFS to do, the fact that it still ran worse AND crashed is why it was a waste of my time. It cost me $130 dollar, but honestly I need to be paid for the time I wasted on it. In hindsight after my experience with it, if MSFS2020 was free, I would NOT have downloaded it. My time is worth more than the $130.

[@skadvani]

I will wait for msfs teams to resolve the scenery. Continuing on fs 2020. Cheers 👍

[@steveclarkemedia]

Thanks for the video. I feel quite disheartened by this launch. I’ve recently had 150gb full fibre internet installed, which is loads more than I ever ran MSFS 2020 on. Yet the new version is so stuttering and jumpy I can’t sensibly use it. It’s going to need a lot of work to set up but I can’t do that when it simply isn’t running properly. I’m worried that the concept of running a game out of the cloud is fatally flawed. Internet speeds are never uniform, so can this really work? Have ASOBO taken a path that no one will ever follow? We’ll see - for now it’s back to 2020 for me - silky smooth and all my favourite aircraft. Was it a bad dream that cost £120 quid?

[@videocruzer]

well, i pre ordered the premium experienced the lack of programming skills when the software was unable to automatically set up my flight controller to work. I spent almost 2 hours trying to bind the primary control surfaces and even though the soft ware showed that it was bound, even in the windows control panel bound the stick as soon as it was plugged into the os the ms flight sim 2024 was unable to complete this simple task. I requested a refund from steam with what i experienced and had my 200 bucks back in under 2 hours.

[@paulthomas7902]

great critique , very informative

[@brunogt1982]

Working beautiful for me except for the first day!

[@foxaviationtime]

i understand where you are coming from lol. in the uk rn the servers have settled and personally i think its great now... i might regret saying this tho

[@renefeijen5916]

Had an absolute blast today, Alaska in the Caravan. Great details in the mountain walls near an airport. Butter smooth in VR (Varjo Aero, 13900K 4090 64GB DLSS Quality) 30 fps motion reprojection on. Had same smooth 30 fps above... Manhattan, in the Robinson helicopter. First days were terrible, I admit. And it is something like a lottery, if it works ok for you or not. Main problem is the servers I guess. And indeed, stupid bugs and confusing menus (controls!), and sometimes CTD in the menus (yesterday for me), cloud edges in VR are still blocky, even more so, clouds at night were different in my left eye compared to right eye, very annoying. But overall I am happy for now. I keep 2020 installed, as a backup use case.

[@foxaviationtime]

@@renefeijen5916 yes the career mode is also quite excellent aswell in my opinion

[@ABAviation747]

I hate the new menu, especially when selecting aircrafts. I hope they give us the option for the 2020 one

[@papa_fried_u]

Your just not used to the change Im already used to it you're just to comfortable with the 2020 one.

[@ABAviation747]

@ I think there is no denying that the aircraft pictures look way worse though. Like that’s what annoys me most

[@Pilot-2020]

I waited with my purchase for this exact reason, when a game this big is launching issues are almost a certainty

[@Baneful_Royal_Belligerent]

Really, what game has had a launch like this?

[@Pilot-2020]

@Baneful_Royal_Belligerent I have to admit I didn't expect it to be this bad but I was expecting some initial bugs

[@Baneful_Royal_Belligerent]

@Pilot-2020 Same here, brother! 🫡

[@CubeAtlantic]

The game looks detailed & absolutely nice, but if you're gonna play via VATSIM or something interconnected, but it's probably good for me bc I have Rogers.

[@pinkfloyd7572]

Good video. Thank you.

[@PilotStudd]

Glad you liked it!

[@skyline-zd5ex]

Mine keeps crashing or glitching, I really really hope that it is wi-if or servers problem. Of course I expected some quality degradation since it is on Xbox S but not to this level of insanity

[@DarylDawkins]

if you are a real world pilot working on instrument rating there is no better tool than MSFS outside of a real cockpit

[@macbec3021]

Good video, but I can’t say is good ! I can’t try it till now, even I have 1 gb /s internet connection. Maybe in few weeks I will be able to say that MSFS is good.

[@heydon2012]

i doubt with my system being a Ryzsn 9 3900X would run 2024 anyway

[@jay-rus4437]

Nope….I pre-purchased it, but not even going to waste time on it for quite awhile. They will work through it, so I like having it already just so I can jump in occasionally and check it out. For now, its 2020 though

[@coder236]

was a mad money grab tbh, like i get it, they are a business but equally this sim should have just been called 2025 and released next year... makes you wonder what build they had in the days they went to release... did they release a dev branch by accident or what?

[@ytpchannel9467]

Also i would like it if we can dleate are rolling cash like in 2020 as my pc overloads with data

[@alexg350]

Beta testers paying full price are learning the lesson. Well, not at all,... they will fall into this again and again...

[@ThatCanadianGuy-e1p]

Has anyone tried the flight planner? It is quite buggy for me, and the planes don't follow the flight plan.

[@MOMAZOSPATO]

@@ThatCanadianGuy-e1p you need to hit “send plan to avionics”

[@Neutrino-ei5cj]

Even days after the launch and with a 500 mbps connection I still get erratic levels of rendering quality in textures. My biggest complaint is how lifeless the water of the coastlines and lakes and ocean look in most places and also the vegetation , although you could say it's better in terms of rendering quality the variety and the type of vegetation just doesn't match the areas where I'm flying. To me the Fidelity of the rendering of the nature is very important and this sim is still inaccurate

[@patrickjmoynihan]

this is exactly my issue as well.

[@jah-kail514]

Love the video

[@PilotStudd]

Thanks Jah-Kai!!

[@jwattie144]

If you have gamepass, sure. To invest in as a standalone product? Absolutely not.

[@haydensupra]

The good Got my £130 refund The bad They thought msfs 2024 was at an acceptable level of quality to release 😮

[@TheSimulationGamer]

When they are get rid of cloud gaming and streaming, I may change my mind and reinstall the game. Completly removed the game bc of pure frustration of these two bs things

[@Tiber234]

Id like to thank the thousands of beta tester out there toiling away at this hot mess - My wallet wont open until at least four months later or whenever A2A Fenix JustSim and FBW are all on board. I didnt buy 2020 for a good long while after it launched and not until you all kindly ironed out the creases - so no need to break that tradition. One area I did get burned by was selecting the Delux - not this time! Im going bog standard, Ive got the good stuff so no need to fork out extra for crap like in 2020. So see you all for 2028 then

[@saleasylum]

This is horrible. Back to 2020.

[@joshuaspop8865]

I played around with it today for the first time. I’ve had zero performance issues, I was shocked. My biggest problem so far is the way the airplanes fly. I was looking forward to the new “physics” bit even the inibuilds airplanes are ridiculously sensitive, even with controller settings dialed down. That’s enough for me to go back to 2020 for a while. The upgraded graphics aren’t enough for me.

[@martinpawley647]

It really is atrocious.

[@sirbonobo3907]

Absolutely NOT!

[@ettorebugatti6846]

Nope, still loading simulator

[@ninjalightning2631]

MSFS 2027 😂😂😂😂😂eeeeee😅😅ioooi

[@andy70d35]

It is a pile of crap in all honesty, got a refund and won't even think of leaving MSFS 2020 for six months to a year, looks like they released the Alpha not a finished product. The promo videos looked good but the actual sim sucks, don't care about career mode or photomode I fly SOP and only use Fenix and PMDG 737-800. MSFS now with tweaks fly's, like a dream. My PC is high end with 1Gb internet and could NOT get MSFS 2024 to run well.