Is Nikola Jokic the best passer ever?

Nikola Jokic might the best offensive player in the history of the NBA thanks to his GOAT passing. This detailed film breakdown & scouting report analyzes how the Nuggets MVP is pushing new boundaries in 2023, ranking his passes in a single game, and illustrating why he might be the best passer to ever play basketball.
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[@aenigma200x]

i’ll never understand how people say that jokic is boring, he’s a 6’11 270 guy that that doesn’t miss shots and creates passing and scoring opportunities out of thin air

[@dominickbadial5980]

He’s literally fat Larry Bird so fun to watch

[@Woozlewuzzleable]

His passing is so entertaining.

[@Farragutsfinest]

I will never understand how people don’t consider him as a top 3 player or even that he should have won MVP…

[@Travsice]

It's all xenophobic ppl

[@ili-samiam-ili3515]

It's because he's not fast and jumping out of the gym.

[@jeonghyolee6092]

Aaron Gordon averaged 13 points while shooting 45% before going to the Denver. He is now shooting 61% while scoring 17 points. It’s not because of his development on his games considering he already played 7 seasons in Magic. Nikola Jokic transformed his game to another level just by passing. Thanks to Jokic, Aaron Gordon went from inefficient jump shooter to one of the most dangerous rim attackers in nba right now. Pure greatness.

[@Comedyvibes]

Jesus Loves you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and saviour

[@flipsolo]

100% Joker has unleashed AG's potential.

[@nkrumansantos1794]

Gordon is the perfect partner for Jokic. He finishes Jokic’s passes and defends where Jokic can’t.

[@alexspace9878]

Credit to AG for buying in to the nuggets style of play and being willing to change too.

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

yea but don't downgrade the man's effort he's putting into his game.

[@kriztover697]

Nikola is something we’ve never seen. I hate that a lot of people are missing how great he is. Legend

[@miked2543]

There have been other great centers who were amazing passers. Check out Arvidas Sabonis..

[@ronpapi9539]

Luka Doncic!

[@ronpapi9539]

He was Man amongst boys.Einstein was in awe of him.

[@ronpapi9539]

See Bill Walton!

[@ronpapi9539]

If he had any facial hair or tattoos then he might be recognized .

[@TheRealBeatMaster]

The reveal that this entire video full of highlight reel passes was from just this 27 game part of the season was quite the exclamation mark to this essay. Fantastic video.

[@IMSLIMEFR]

bruh he so fye fr i see why he got a ring

[@gntov989]

It's so interesting to see how many opportunities Gordon has been getting since he started playing with jokic

[@vauneoso3292]

I think the Jokic Gordon pairing is so underrated. Their games where made for each other. If Mal can get consistent mins playing AG I think that’ll be a nice addition from them too

[@gntov989]

@@vauneoso3292 yeah forreal, Gordon's off ball game is underrated as well. His cuts are usually on point

[@iknowklaus]

Best choice of his career

[@brianbadonde9251]

When they traded for him, they went like 8 wins straight and had number 1 offensive rating immediately. He was made for Denver

[@NewNormalWorldOrder]

A shot-creating stretch 5 who passes like Magic Johnson will do that for you

[@mertonhirsch4734]

Jokic just posted his 6th straight post season game with a 30+ game-score, breaking MJs record of 5 straight. He also topped Jordan's record for highest average game score in a 5 and 6 game stretch in the post season. Currently, the greatest playoff run in hostory.

[@kostastube2010]

What Jokic does is inhuman. But, in MJ's case you have to account that in his era, the total score was way lower.

[@trhansen3244]

Jordan was way way way way WAY better than Jokic.

[@crystalizedExposed]

its kinda different, its like saying harden is a better scorer than kobe because he averaged more but because of the pace difference kobe would average closer to 40 if not above in todays game, and jordans an even better scorer than kobe

[@mertonhirsch4734]

@@crystalizedExposed In Jordan's top 2 and Kobe's #1 scoring season they actually scored more per 100 possessions than Wilt did when he scored 50.4

[@nicogarrucha6060]

​@@kostastube2010 It's Game Score, we're not talking about Points Per Game, Game Score I think takes into total the 5 stats (Pts, Rebs, Asts, Stls, Blks). Jordan is easily the best scorer this game has ever seen. But impact wise, Jokic has an argument

[@BWalker9313]

Jokic literally turned Gordon into one of the best finishers in the league. Aaron had the ball all the time in Orlando and had to take all the shots and was never efficient, now he just gets to the spots he needs to and Jokic finds him. I know it’s a simple way too look at it, but going from a 44% FG scorer to a 54% FG scorer on only 4 less shots a game is insane. He’s by far the best player in the league and makes every single player around him look like an all-star

[@devinmoose]

The man has a top 10 passes compilation from ONE game. Absolutely ridiculous. Truly a special player.

[@tongobong1]

Luka is better passer and player than Jokic.

[@cameronpowe2433]

@@tongobong1 bout the same

[@berryesseen]

More absurdly, this compilation looks like someone's career assist highlights.

[@unscukraine8532]

@@tongobong1 where is his mvp then💀and tell me what position the mavericks are..not first like denver for sure

[@hodajucipoligraf2913]

You forgot to take your medicin again?!

[@houssamk777]

We take this type of players for granted. until it’s too late, appreciate greatness while it’s still here !

[@dusk6159]

And this is together with Lebron too, in the league at the same time. Pure blessing

[@karlosperez2179]

I thought the same thing i never got to see Kobe play but definitely watching the joker live is on my bucket list

[@justindavid9979]

@@karlosperez2179 Watching him in the game against Memphis 3 days ago was a rare privilege. His 40/27/10 triple double game 5 days ago would have been magical to watch as well.

[@samlelowitch]

Jokic is, in his quiet, low-key way, one of the most extraordinary basketball players ever to grace the NBA.

[@Serenity01871]

I mean he can give u 50 . Rebounds everything has to got double teamed most of the time than passes. Makes his team better and is unguardable

[@ItsHughMungus]

I think out of any player, I always rewind Jokic clips the most by far

[@amjan]

Jokić has the largest repertoire of different passess out of any player I have seen in the last 30 years.

[@NewsGuyFred]

Jay Williams has entered the chat. But Jay was careless so different.

[@NewsGuyFred]

@@mkbzam I meant when he was making those highlight reel passes. His ast to t/o ratio was 2.2 during his first 4 years. After that, he improved tremendously but he was no longer in highlights and he saw his assist drop as he played more conservatively.

[@warnock0721]

Is pistol Pete in this conversation? or was that more than 30 years ago?

[@lizzoschair.-9720]

@@warnock0721 bro that's like midevil times

[@Peanutdenver]

He He's so dangerous from anywhere on the floor to pass, score and now even make steals. You nailed it saying Big Honey's has an arsenal of delivery methods dishing dimes...he's like an NFL quarterback, an elite NFL quarterback threading the needle nightly. I chuckle when I see them and say wtf! He's so good.

[@dunmatta2670]

Just watching his Grizz highlights, Jokic may not have had a monster triple double in terms of metrics but he was just toying with them. That's how you dominate a team.

[@vauneoso3292]

Had the same impact against the grizzlies as the 40,27,10 night. The man is anazing

[@dewman7477]

Points aren’t everything I’d rather get an efficient all around stat line with less points than a high scoring game on bad efficiency

[@berlin4103]

Still had historic 13 13 13.

[@daddyfuse50]

@@dewman7477 Its moreso that watching the games will tell you the real story. He was absolutely as dominant against the grizz as he was when he dropped that huge 40pt triple double. You would have to watch the game to know it tho

[@thard9989]

If you watch the first half, you'll realize that the refs gave Joker and the Nuggets 20 free throws but only gave the Grizzlies 3. And the refs also were against the Grizzlies the game before against Oklahoma City. The referees manipulate the game because of sports betting and other vested interests. "Dominate" as long as the refs rig the game against the better team...

[@attemptedoptimist3560]

I love how much Ben enjoys Jokic's passing, I feel like every Jokic vid on thinking basketball is like at least 70% jokic passing highlights, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

[@vauneoso3292]

Agreed 💯💯💯

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

Seems likes he’s only interested in best flashy passing which is why Stockton or even Chris Paul aren’t even mentioned. Stockton less the league in assist 9 straight seasons averaging as much as 14.5 and had tremendous assist to turnover ration at high volume yet not one mention. Only counts if you do behind the back pass I guess.

[@brianbadonde9251]

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson I get it now, you're trolling lol 😂

[@eciohc75]

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson He explained how passes bend defense when hitting tight windows. Those two passers are what I call "save passer with high USG". The impact of a passer don't just relate to assists counts.(I'll assume you never check potencial assists, secondary assists) The diversity of passes also matters. Stockton makes mostly entry passes while in static position. Paul is mostly a PnR passer. Not trying to disrespect those two.(CP3 is one of my favorite) But we all know how those two will start a possession 90% of the game. Magic, Bird, Jokic just make all kinds of passes in the move, pose, PnR(roller and ball handler), transition,etc. The unpredictiabilty and constant pressure the players impose on defense is just different.

[@coledorillo6685]

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson he does cover them during his podcasts about the best players and best passers all the time. This video is just about jokic though. Tldr; high risk passes create higher value. Most players can rake up low value assists by doing and easy pass or just sending it to a superstar. Elite passers create their own windows.

[@mybasketballdiary]

I've never witnessed Wilt's dominance (aside from limited old footage), but Jokic is the most skilled "Big" I've witnessed during my 40+ years of existence.

[@jaobille79]

more skilled than Hakeem?

[@TheLeftyGrove]

He's damn good. He really is a throwback to Magic/Bird to me, both insane passers as well, but in a way that's positionless. Just as Bird and Magic couldn't easily be pigeonholed as players, neither can Jokic. My late dad, who watched a ton of basketball his whole life, asked me early in Jokic's career, "Have you seen this guy Jokic for Denver?" A couple weeks later, Denver is on, so I look for this guy and call my dad and go "You mean this kinda doughy looking big guy? Looks like Greg Ostertag!" Well, I found out quick he didn't play like Greg Ostertag, lol. He's a one-off guy like Bird and Magic, and it looks like he's going to reach their heights, too.

[@vlesmeries]

Man that brings back the days of Stockton & Malone. I couldn't figure out who he looked like but you're right on the money. Greg could be his dad lol.

[@TheHighway420n]

Ostertag...lol...ostertag was great on sega genesis😮

[@TheHighway420n]

Also what if he is Greg ostertags illegitament love child?Pros get alot of cooch on the road.Many little ostertags are made each season with no daddy to claim them.Jokic is Greg Ostertags son...maybe?!

[@ronpapi9539]

IF NBA Basketball rules were enforced, The Joke would be a bench warmer.Bullying and Traveling are his game.

[@Jordan123151]

Yeah, I like how everyone's losing their minds over long bounce passes, behind the back passes, full court passes, like Bird and Magic weren't doing that 40 years ago. People need to let players finish their careers before slapping "Greatest ever" on shit. Bird was on pace to be arguably the greatest all around player ever before he fucked up his back. 3 straight MVPs. Then he paved his mother's driveway.

[@mambaASI]

Don't let his passing distract you from his 25pts/11boards on some of the most elite shooting splits in the league. No one is better than this dude on offense right now.

[@Astelch]

Giannis. The guy single handled 1v5 against Boston to a game 7

[@mambaASI]

@@Astelch giannis had and still has a much better and deeper team around him so I can't agree he did it alone. But as an overall player, giannis is better than jokic due to his defense.

[@Astelch]

@@mambaASI no way he has a deeper team he was gassed game 7; from playing two ends of the floor

[@mambaASI]

@@Astelch that doesn't mean he doesn't have a deeper team lol. Just compare their rosters. Jrue holiday, brook, portis, serge, grayson, etc. All better than the dudes jokic had around him after murray and MPJ got injured.

[@nikolaspasic5398]

last year 27 14 on 66 ts lol

[@keemohog7464]

This mans game seems so simple, but when you watch closely what he does you start seeing how complex it actually is. He is seeing plays and passes way earlier than anyone on the opposing team, his passing IQ is out of this world, like literally never seen. True greatness right there.

[@angahbg9089]

Thats i have been saying bro... A defender may think they have defended Jokic well when he pass out of a shot but, passing the ball was Joker first option from the first place...

[@hamoiq908]

Yeah it’s genuinely like watching a genius when you break it down. Because at normal pace it just looks like an easy pass most of the time, but actually jokic is always finding and creating the most perfect small gaps whcih are always enough to lead to an opportunity

[@GatsuKS]

That's why average casuals dislike him, they can't see all the subtle things he does.

[@t4d0W]

With how people have consumed the NBA for decades people think the best passers always dominate the ball when at times its just the latter. The fun part is watching how Jokic can see all where the play is going without touching the ball. In part because he's heavily involved in the spacing when he's setting a load of screens or just relocating to the perimeter. So him just getting a pass and giving a quick touch pass to a scorer at the basket is just him directing the flow.

[@JohnnyRodgers3]

wilt does the same thing

[@onjadar]

I literally love this video for the fact that it showcases Jokic's passes and reading of the game, something that a lot of NBA highlights still don't understand. This video focuses on what Jokic's game is really about: reading the game, NOT scoring, as somehow 99% of other highlights videos seem to focus on. I'd just like to say that. Thanks Thinking Basketball, you really are putting thinking back into basketball.

[@flipsolo]

100% That's why I love this channel b/c it goes beyond the stats (basic AND advanced), and he actually demonstrates how Jokic is such a special player.

[@trhansen3244]

Yeah, I love this video any time I am having trouble sleeping.

[@yunan9610]

Just like how Jokic unlocks Aaron Gordon's performance, Gordon also makes Jokic's game to a new height. They mastered the low post passing game together

[@ronpapi9539]

George Gervin was the Goat.

[@Airestotle09]

He IS the definition of Most Valuable Player. Everybody gets better and the whole team reaches new levels with him on the floor

[@Don_Winchester]

You mean losing in the 2nd round to better talent 😂

[@BridgeCityPassages]

he has zero significant W's in his career. this team is a paper tiger that will be mauled by someone come playoff time

[@ursula3438]

@@BridgeCityPassagesMurray and Joker eliminated Kawhi and PG13 from the bubble.

[@NeznanPoznanovic1993]

👏👏👏

[@ibringthelastwords1358]

Yes probably until they sweep out by gsw :)

[@JonnyLin7]

Another effect that probably comes from Jokic's passing is that it seems his teammates are much more willing to be active off-ball. Watching Denver play, his teammates are much more willing to run in transition, cut off ball and move. Knowing your star is going to hit you if there is any sort of opening makes it just makes it so much more worthwhile moving. It's why Denver constantly has some of the best offenses year after year with Jokic on and that guys who were known as limited offensive players before like Gordon and Bruce Brown are now having breakout seasons.

[@Ricky-oz4ic]

Give this man a medal. You got that on point. I didn't even thought about it.

[@MeIrakli]

Brilliant point.

[@t4d0W]

The big in the modern NBA is always involved in so much action like box outs, spacing out or the various screens that is opens up the wings to do move around as well. Not to mention what they can when they get the pass where they turn into give and go guys or hand off threats where they can roll to the rim or pop out to shoot. Its just that when u get a big who has the touch and floor vision like Jokic, every cutting/relocation opportunity is always a chance for offense. Even Jokic borrowed a page from Bird where he'll just throw a ball up at the rim and with his size/strength in the post, he'll just outmuscle everyone else and use his soft touch to get the putback and the EZ basket (with like 2 Offensive rebs credited to him in the process).

[@dawnstar81]

Reminds me of great hockey centers, that make bang on average wingers have breakout seasons because of the passing. Best example is Mario Lemieux who made Rob Brown have double/triple the amount of points he had at other teams, sometimes even banking shots of Brown, who was just standing there, into the goal.

[@Ryan2022]

Players are much more willing to move and cut when they know it’s going to pay off by getting the ball and there’s nothing wrong with that. Joker makes everyone better.

[@ventarfield7115]

People that think he is boring are the people that dont understand fundamentals or genius level creativity. He would rather feed his friends than be a super star. Yet here we are watching Labronda and the LA dorks cry. He is the real 3x mvp to anyo e watching history unfold.

[@krispykremes2482]

It's because those people are 12yo and think everything that isn't a dunk or a 3 is boring.

[@b.m.8547]

Jokic is incredible. With his passing, I feel he's in the pantheon with Larry and Magic.

[@ronpapi9539]

Chamberlain, Dr.J and Walton.

[@ronpapi9539]

Learned from Luka Doncic.

[@ronpapi9539]

He got tips from Luka Doncic, the best field general of all time at only 24 yrs old.

[@andrewf0784]

His teammates must love playing with him. Willing passers like him make the game fun and foster positive atmosphere and chemistry. He is the reason Denver is doing so well right now.

[@chanty2192]

Denver is hot in the regular season all the time.

[@_forest6270]

Look at AG, playing much better than playing in Orlando. Look at Barton, dnp in Washington🤣

[@412yinzer8]

Absolutely. They all know that if they keep their head and hands up, Jokic will find them for an easy bucket. What's not to love about that?

[@mr.westin1313]

@@chanty2192 this comment isn’t aging well lol

[@aleksaa24]

fr, you rarely see someone slacking on the nuggets offense because even if they look covered they know that if they keep running Jokic will find them

[@babobereta]

Greg Popovich described him perfectly. He is just so good, it’s not fair everything he can do. And what I love the most is his unselfishness, I mean he could go for a scoring title every single season and average 30-35 ppg easily being the efficient scorer that he is, but he doesn’t care about his numbers and just wants to get his team going and win the game. He truly is one of a kind

[@aquatazer]

@@marcdaddy33 Russell is undoubtedly the greatest winner of all time due to his selflessness, and Bird I can see as unselfish, but Jordan is one of the most selfish players of all time. He’s undeniably the GOAT (or in second place in my opinion once LeBron breaks the scoring record), but he is not known for his selflessness and team play. Jokić, Duncan, and Russell are the prime examples to me of a superstar, MVP, and some of the greatest ever who are undoubtedly selfless and simply want their team to win.

[@karmakaycee]

In as much as he doesn't care about his numbers doesn't mean he could average 30-35 PPG easily. Relax, there's nothing stopping him from doing both. Y'all say anything these days.

[@babobereta]

@@karmakaycee Lol this season he is averaging 25 points shooting 63% on 15 FG attempted per game. With that efficiency he could increase his FG attempts to 20-25 per game, easily get 10-15 more points and go for a scoring title. But Jokić doesn't care about his numbers and just wants his team to win, thats what makes him so unique. MVP without a doubt

[@kennethward4985]

Popovich is an unrepentant Racist.

[@unbiasvsbias3955]

@@marcdaddy33 EDIT: "Yes, Bill and Bird were truly unselfish. Add to the fact that Bill had an unbelievably stacked team that Wilt could not overcome along with great coaching that would explain why he's the greatest winner" That same roster you're talking about, despite them having multiple HoFs such as Bill Sherman or MvP winner Cousy and HC Red Auebach etc they couldn't win a chip at all until Russell came along. And the same was true when he retired too, as BOTH player and head coach. Hasn't been done since. Bill Russell won at every single level of basketball from HS all the way to pros. Bill is undoubtedly the greatest winner of all time, stacked roster or not. Had to include this (edit) since people (like @RG) may get confused as to what it is that I'm specifically referring to. Nothing more/less smh lol.

[@VelhaGuardaTricolor]

This dude is incredibly special. His IQ is off the chart! He makes playing basketball at the highest level look easy. And he is not even athletic. So major respect! My MVP no doubt!

[@richardwinckel383]

It doesn't get any better than playing with a team mate with his mind set.I played in a mens league after college and was asked to fill in for an injured guy from a team that played together for 8 or so years. It was a joy. I moved without the ball a lot and whenever I was open even for an instant the ball found its way into my hands. I never had so many easy buckets in my decades of playing.

[@Sonnel_James]

Jokic is not only one of the best passer ever he also is one the best playmakers in the history of the game

[@daddyfuse50]

True that, and there is a big difference.

[@NewsGuyFred]

Why do you think most consider him behind Giannis? Is Jokic defense that far behind Giannis? Or is it that scoring is more impactful and Giannis can take over games just by himself? I ask because statistically Jokic looks better yet most put Giannis as top.

[@vukforest223]

💯 true

[@predragnikolic5807]

@@NewsGuyFred If anybody is taking over games, it is Jokic. But not with dunks, but with post up plays and playmaking.

[@loulou7194]

@@NewsGuyFred Giannis has a ring, not Jokic (not yet) ...

[@rhyanwesthassel7980]

This sorcery requires sky high levels of trust from all the Nuggets players. Players trusting Jokic to find them, and Jokic trusting the others to make the right cuts.

[@mrsankow]

Totally. They all have to be so aware. Those passes must seem to show up out of nowhere in real life

[@mrsankow]

Some of those bounce passes are completely hidden from their eyes until it shows up in thier hands

[@flipsolo]

@@mrsankowRight! It must be so much fun playing with Jokic. You make a cut and get open, and the ball just magically appear in your hands!

[@taroachang]

yeah, always think some of these laser beam pass right on the face out of nowhere could be bone fracture for ordinary people 🤣

[@oleg1466]

If u see every interview he is in, it is always humble. He also never forget to include his teammates efforts everytime they praise him. That's how u get ur teammates to trust you

[@hodajucipoligraf2913]

I am ex basketball player. After the first original Dream Team stopped playing i stopped watching basket. Jokic has brought smile on my face once again when i watch basketball game. He is just amazing.

[@zekelucente9702]

Magic pretty much invented the passing game that the other players you’re mentioning employ. Jokic is clearly the best at this aspect of the game because of his size and his threat as a scorer which requires the opponent to focus on him thereby creating the opportunity to make the incredible passes he makes. Hats off to his teammates that are always expecting the unexpected and finishing the play.

[@madirts1]

It all comes down to his mentality. He said, "If I score, only I am happy. But if I pass and they score, two people are happy." He's the best TEAMMATE of all time.

[@FirashAdryan]

You know, even if some people didn’t put him as the GOAT passer, him being in the discussion alone is enough. If someone says Player X is in the discussion with Magic, Bird, Lebron, Nash and Kidd, you know he’s in an elite company.

[@lanelesic]

Should have included a few of his full court quarterback type assists. Love the comparisons with Larry Bird.

[@riccardoesclapon549]

There's one pass in particular in these playoffs that really blew my mind. Nothing flashy, but I slowed it down and watched it a million times because Jokic literally started his pass before his teammate even started the cut, giving juuust enough time to beat the defense. No other player at all in the nba could have made that pass, and nobody even tries these and would rack up so many turnovers if they did... the guy really is an incredible passer. Great vid 🙏 the real MVP

[@ronpapi9539]

Ie.. LUKA Magic.!

[@NigerianBaller]

I was watching the Serbian national team in the FIBA world cup and it was thing of beauty to watch, every player knew where everyone was at all times, and I was thinking, this is how basketball is supposed to be played, a team sport

[@scottmunson2917]

Thanks for pointing this out. The system is really dedicated to position-less basketball where the expectation is that every player should be a great passer and ballhandler regardless of size.

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

I've always felt Euro league players had better fundamentals, less ego than many in the NBA.

[@scottmunson2917]

@@MadLadsAnonymous I think it's a question too of how people define the game. In the Serbian system, there's a sense of "position-less" basketball; e.g., every person the floor should be able to play all the positions, passing, rebounding, outside shooting, etc. In American basketball, I feel there's much more of an emphasis on specializing in your position and perfecting your craft; e.g., "I'm a 3. Here's what a 3 does. This is what I'll perfect."

[@yeahitsme1401]

For me personally, what makes him the greatest is just his large arsenal of passes. Sure Magic and LeBron they have no looks and drop passes but there's just some passes The Big Honey makes that NOBODY in basketball, past or present, would even think about trying. It's amazing how much he elevates his teammates, and for that he could win an MVP every couple of years and I think it'd be truly well deserved.

[@Gravijahz]

It's hard to know with older players because of their huge sample size, and the flashiest being what is remembered. Jokic exists in an age where you can easily see any pass ever made quickly, players like LeBron only lived partially in that era, and players like Nash, etc before it. Let alone Magic or Bird. Edit: Jokic is in that pantheon, of course. Picking one of them is basically impossible.

[@luisvergara6502]

Get Lebron out of the conversation. We're talking best passers

[@Gravijahz]

@@luisvergara6502 LeBron has been commonly cited as one of the best passers ever by players, analysts and all kinds of other people. He has routinely been called the player with the best natural vision ever. You don't have to agree, but that puts you on the outside. If legends, current players, etc etc consider him one of the best ever, I don't think a random dude has much sway. watch?v=t8tnELrsoeU but hey let's have some fun.

[@jacobscholtissek2410]

@@Gravijahz i agree Lebron is a phenomenal Passer but compared to Alltime Great passer he "stinks" up none the less one of the best passer from 2008 until now. so he is in an Elite company cause my Goat lists are seperated by eras too hard to com pare imo. so yeah is a top 3-10 passer of his era, depends on how you look at it

[@Industrious420]

@@jacobscholtissek2410 put the haterade down kid

[@TheTechAdmin]

4:23 It's his "situational awareness" that is astoundingly genius.

[@twowheelseatingmeals-motoj8080]

Very hard to pass like this. It’s a sixth sense. He passes it in rhythm of his teammates, not like other “pass-first/playmaking” players that pass as a bailout and get an assist. This is very difficult to do.

[@yzm2065]

Its only when you watch Jokic that modern era folks like myself realize just how much of a lost art passing is. Its so hype. The NBA has many scorers, but this kind of passing is truly rare.

[@giffengood]

Rare in the US* -- passing (esp. crazy creative passing) still exists in Euro basketball.

[@theacelestino4709]

What's great with this is his skill doesn't depend on athleticism and will probably age well throughout his whole career. We're just so blessed to see this for as long as we're able to and I don't think it's declining anytime soon.

[@kevinkertarahardja1836]

the problem with him tho. i felt like if he finally win a ring with nuggets he will retire on the spot or just wait out his contract then went home to serbia to chase his other dream as the biggest horse jockey ever.

[@jakubcygan8265]

@@kevinkertarahardja1836 lol you had me in the first half, not gonna lie

[@jml-rj5re]

The greatest like Bird, Magic could barely dunk and won with their minds. Jokic's value is literally off the charts.

[@aliabdi4060]

He doesn’t play defense and folds in the play offs. He’s just white hype that’s all. The refs favor him and Luka.

[@aliabdi4060]

@@jml-rj5re Bird dunked often. Secondly Mike was greater than both put together.

[@drzed6647]

I'm all in for Jokic as the best passer of all time, regardless of position. I watched Magic, who I thought was the greatest, and I watched Bird, and I watched Stocktan, who ran the same action for 20 years, efficiently, but did he have highlights,? did he throw passes you had never seen before? Nash, I confess his career with Phoenix came at a time when I was not watching NBA, so I don't know. But for me, when I watch Jokic, he throws volume, super efficient winning dimes, and he also dishes balls you have never seen, passes that raise you out of your seat, laughing with tears in your eyes, at the sheer sudden beauty of the moment. He is the man for me, the greatest passer of all time, period.

[@scottowens4162]

no doubt. i've been watching this game since 87 and i say the same thing.

[@toeey1]

Never heard of this dude but damn, he's got one hell of an assist

[@032HULK]

One game on TNT or ESPN is enough to make you fall in love with this man, a triple double machine, a wizard.

[@goodjohnhunting]

He shows how beautiful basketball can be

[@stevenbrooks6375]

As a philly fan, i used to be mad that Embiid didn't win MVP last year. But now im not.

[@orthodoxos1971]

And the cutters on the Nuggets are BOLD because they KNOW the ball is coming! wow this guy is impressive

[@bundletesla5882]

What a wonderful job putting this together, with exceptional dialogue that was both informative, and just plain fun to watch! Thanks so much!

[@predragnikolic5807]

Let's appreciate the fact that Jokic is just entering his prime right now! We are going to watch 5 years of Jokic's prime, his best basketball is yet to come!

[@nonamewillbegiven6847]

Let's appreciate what a jock rider you are

[@jacksfacts20]

Honest to god watching Jokic’s passing in this video made me cackle. Just so insane. I really hope that he wins at least one championship, he deserves it.

[@rulnacco]

Ain't it tho! I was sitting there just screeching at some of those dimes. Hell, Jokic could turn *me* into a layup-making machine in the NBA--all you gotta do is keep moving, stay awake even when it looks like he don't see you, and catch the damn ball. Simple as.

[@vyncz3607]

@@rulnacco I think more basketball fans gotta see this and realize what Jokic is really doing. He better win 3x mvp, averaging a triple double, best team in the west, insane efficiency.. I used to never really watch Jokic cause I never watched nuggets games but I’m definitely gonna start now. Definitely turning into one of my favorite players, I love high level passing and smart players, he fits the bill perfectly. Crazy how some people find this boring, this is art

[@b6uce]

HES IN THE FINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@roderickcampbell2105]

Love this. Jokic is from another planet. Also, everyone else named here is probably too. All of them unreal. In my world, a great pass is greater than a great score. I will make an exception. Jokic's shot in the last 24 hours was amazing.

[@CheyenneSedai]

I just appreciate the fundamentals there in the way he never is all that flashy but understands the game so deeply. Its just incredible.

[@martiijn]

jokic starting to become one of the best players of all time for me. the performances this man keeps putting on are just out of this world

[@darkfntasyy]

@Luke Walker 100 assists? dang

[@martiijn]

@Luke Walker what are you even saying

[@milosjovicevic6083]

@Luke Walker 🙄 Jokic is much better passer than Garnet And so much better shooter lol Much better free throws, midrange, 3 pts etc. Jokic is most accurate player between 3 and 15 feet ever according by stats

[@ZALAZA00]

I'll even go further for me we're entering the golden age of basketball as a sport in terms of general level. I still think MJ is the best player of all time but in terms of competition it's nowhere close, the ceilling is so high in today's game it's unbelievable. From Giannis to Luka, Nikola, Ja, Zion the Dying lion LeBron, every aspect of the game is played at the highest level. Athleticism, 3pts, BasketBall IQ, Passes even Defense that is often thrashed because of the absurd offensive level players have reached ( thanks to the refs too ), everything in the game is elite, Basketball fans are spoiled asf

[@milosjovicevic6083]

@@ZALAZA00 Ovo je nekima najbolja odbrana a danas se kao ne igraju odbrane Komedija. Gledam NBA od '88 negde. Neuporedivo teže je danas biti vrhunski igrac kzbin.info/www/bejne/sICxp4CBoK6jraM

[@Matheus-vs3qt]

If everyone in the Nuggets team hit their shots perfectly, I believe Jokic could have a 25+ ast game.

[@udishomer5852]

not 25, but certainly double what he has, 18 ast or so.

[@jimlahey3919]

What a stupid observation. You could say that about the facilitator on every team just about. This is real life where players players have a hard time making half of their shots. That’s like saying if quarterbacks completed all of their passes they would throw for 700 yards per game. Or if Lebron made all of his shots he would average 60 ppg.

[@Matheus-vs3qt]

You seem way too offended by this innocent and stupid observation. I'm sorry.

[@matthewmullins4046]

@@udishomer5852 he already has an 18 assist game, he can do more than that.

[@st0jakob893]

those one handed touch passes have me wondering if he ever played any water polo.... crazy stuff

[@SuperBroncosguy]

Dude's got alot of heart also! Hugging Heat players before celebrating.

[@TyroneNBAFan]

I'm certain this has been mentioned before on this channel, but the fact that Jokic is such a great shooter also sets up so many high percentages dimes around the rim. He pulls the opposing center from the basket giving so much space to cutters.

[@komi1834]

few days ago I read a crazy stat, 290 players in NBA history have shot 600+ from 5-10ft, 249 of them shot at

[@rafikz77]

Yep he mentioned it when talking about Nash

[@tristanharris8440]

Aaron Gordon is so underrated and literally the PERFECT player for Jokic.

[@serbianwarrior385]

True they both fit eachother perfectly

[@kassios]

Nah, it's just Jokic. Gordon is the beneficiary of greatness. Any relatively good athletic player would blossom next to Jokic.

[@youngmelo1841]

Gordon and Bruce Brown. They're the definition of Jokic players

[@libydrew7501]

@@youngmelo1841 and Christian Brown. They ask jokic questions so jokic teaches them on-court.

[@Astelch]

Gordon is not the perfect player for jokic. I would say wiggins he can shoot threes and cut

[@SportSpiritInspire-to1th]

Watching Nikola Jokic's incredible passing skills is like witnessing basketball magic. The question of whether he's the best passer ever is a fascinating one. His court vision and ability to deliver pinpoint passes, often in the most unexpected situations, truly set him apart. Jokic's passing is not just exceptional for a big man; it's extraordinary by any standard. The way he reads the game and orchestrates plays is reminiscent of some of the all-time greats. It's a debate worth having, and Jokic's passing certainly puts him in the conversation for the title of the best passer ever.

[@heavenlogoswalker]

This guy has the best touch ever, it's unbelievable and unguardable.

[@Davivd2]

Magic Jokic. Since Magic retired I've heard so many "The best passer since Magic" labels put on point guards. Jokic is the real best passer since Magic and he's playing point center. It's amazing to watch.

[@linusstammberger5272]

I was thinking about this earlier. Magic is basically the consensus pick for the goat passer. But watching Jokic this season, i cannot help but think he has quite literally perfected the art of passing. It is ridiculous what he is able to do with the basketball. What is even more ridiculous though is that people still don't think he is as good as his statistics imply.

[@rook1196]

A 1 month highlight reel of Jokic is a year for Magic tho Magic had way less opportunities (most of his highlights came on fast breaks where he had a chance to be more creative). 80s NBA basketball was terrible to watch (college >>>>>> NBA back then). If some old like me tells you that it was a "team" game back then, slap that old upside the head. The majority of 80s BB plays were clear outs (thank you illegal defense): 8 people stand on one side of the court like literally just standing there, the guy with ball on the other side of the court goes 1v1. Practicing team D was a waste of time, the best offensive and defensive teams were all 1v1 specialists.

[@benbazor3656]

Johnson was damn good, but not my pick for best.

[@joejett5084]

I think it’s fair to put him up there with magic but I’ll give him a couple more seasons and it will be undisputed.

[@SoggySlopster]

He’s better than magic individually but magic had the better career

[@coreyroberts47]

@@SoggySlopster magic was also in a much better team situation tho. And the league wasn’t quite as flush with talent

[@tiptonbrett]

Imagine seeing prime Joker at center, prime Bird at Forward, and prime Magic at the point. The ball would move so quickly it would be impossible to defend.

[@whitneymacdonald4396]

Don't know about the best but he's working his way into the conversation with Bird and Magic. Looks like he's passing the best big men, Bill Walton and Arvytus Sabonis. Either way, it's great to see a player who plays the team game rather than the me-first, Michael Jordan, pass only when you're in trouble game.

[@FkTheUFC]

…He’s the best.

[@gordonwaugh2815]

Teammates will just stand around if they don't think they'll receive a pass. Jokic rewards them for moving around, getting open, and cutting to the basket.

[@digitalvictory8266]

It's not even the passing... It's the VISION before the pass. Dude just doesn't miss anything. If a guy cuts and has a half-inch opening, Jokic sees it. Just amazing.

[@ursula3438]

Facts.

[@MRHIMDOWNSTAIRS12]

Facts lol his vision and high IQ is what stick out to me. His passes are pretty basic tbh

[@The_Jazziest_Coffee]

@@MRHIMDOWNSTAIRS12 i would try to disagree but you're actually right he has flashy passes but i'd argue magic has probably flashier ones, it's more that jokic has like telepathic awareness

[@spoonsVSforks]

Exactly his attentiveness to spacing and his quick reaction is what to me is his best features that let him make the best passes

[@MRHIMDOWNSTAIRS12]

@@spoonsVSforks this is what I was trying to explain to a guy who thought I was hating on him 😂 calling his passes basic isn’t a diss at all, he’s not as quick, flashy and creative like a magic or Lebron but his IQ and awareness is literally on par with theirs

[@alexspace9878]

I played soccer before playing basketball, and that’s part of what makes players like Jokic, Luka, and LeBron stand out to me. They unlock the magic of a good pass with their understanding of feints, body language, and their eyes. You don’t see that often enough in some sports, but when it happens, it’s majestic.

[@Astelch]

Lebron is a great passer WTH. If u watched his Cleveland days you’ll understand

[@lakyak]

@Lucas Walker I'm a Serb and that's straight up bullshit lol. Lebron has 4 MVPs 4 finals MVPs and 4 rings he will be the all time leading scorer in a few months and his longevity is something we have never seen before. And that's without saying that LBJ is a far greater defender in his prime and was a DPOY candidate which Jokic will probably never be. Jokic getting a ring would put him in like top 25 players of all time which is still incredible but Lebron is a top 5 player of all time minimum

[@izelawrence2829]

You know ball

[@izelawrence2829]

@Lucas Walker get off that weed

[@alexspace9878]

@Lucas Walker that’s not the point of my comment. All of these players have made a multitude of passes that unlock the true art of the sport. That’s my criteria-I didn’t mention who was better than who once.

[@danvu8627]

I don't watch basketball, but you have convinced me. I feel that I might share this trivial knowledge if some bball discussion ever pops up in the future, wondering what others think of Jokic. GJ on the video. This seems to at least be more interesting of a talking point than talking about how Shaq overwhelmed with his power and size.

[@omerfawadrauf7369]

Your basketball knowledge is really impressive! I judged you for the title of this video, thinking you are just a passionate fan. But dang you’re head and shoulders above my grasp of the game! Great video

[@Lord_Horker]

It’s such a treat as a Nuggets fan to have a generational player Jokic

[@tolbertowusu7244]

Another great content once more from Ben . Jokic is a passing savant and that’s a fact .

[@dusk6159]

And only TB could analyze it and say it like this. We're blessed.

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

Seems likes he’s only interested in best flashy passing which is why Stockton or even Chris Paul aren’t even mentioned. Stockton less the league in assist 9 straight seasons averaging as much as 14.5 and had tremendous assist to turnover ration at high volume yet not one mention. Only counts if you do behind the back pass I guess.

[@boinqity4621]

not a savant because that implies that he's only good at passing, when in reality hes one of the best shooters in the league (people dont really talk about his shooting for some reason???) and hes a good defender

[@tolbertowusu7244]

@@boinqity4621 well said

[@sendAJtospace]

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson Mentioning John Stockton invalidates your entire comment.

[@theprisonier]

Probably the most team player. Not thinking in what he can do but what is good for the team.

[@aleksandarkanizaj]

Fantastic video, well done. Jokic is just unique, hell of a player!

[@Topolinho]

I think the key word when talking about anything related to Jokic is "Efficiency". He probably is the most efficient passer of all time. The flashiness in his passes serve a purpose 99% of the time.

[@t4d0W]

Even his turnovers aren't bad either in terms of intention. Guy sees the floor/play ahead of time that he'll thread the pass a lil too crazy or he thought or he made a quicker read to get the ball past 2 defenders to his teammate at the corner who may not be paying full attention. If he does make those its a big defensive breakdown and a bigger chance at an open bucket.

[@goodjohnhunting]

This

[@alexlifeson1321]

Thats the way to put it

[@werbahwerbah2647]

I think quite clearly he is. It's hard to find this much footage of 5head plays from whole carriers from the other candidates. Bird and magic maybe being the closest.

[@daddyfuse50]

I've been saying this, the only people who could even make the passes he's making are Bird, Magic, and to an extent Bill Walton - and while Bird and Magic are my favorite all time, they didnt even do it as often as Jokic. Its truly unreal.

[@vauneoso3292]

The only defense for Bird and Magic being better is they don’t have every game. But I agree with you both on a night to night basis from what I’ve seen ima give jok the edge

[@nkosiamakosi7078]

I still have to give it to Magic and Bird due to the fact that in their era there was much less spacing, all offense was inside the arc and passing windows were much more tight and clogged. But The Big Honey is definitely one of the best passers the game has ever seen.

[@justbandile5625]

Jason Williams 🤧

[@daddyfuse50]

@@justbandile5625 Jason Williams was a great showman, with some great career highlights, but nowhere near the consistency or playmaking ability

[@terrytenley9327]

Unbelievable play.. he does so many things right.. it’s been a long time to see the skill this player has.. so fun to see and watch.. love the results..

[@diegomejia7716]

It is amaing to see new jewels on every new generation of players. I am more from Nash and Kid era, but this guy here, he is def. the best one of his generation.

[@oh-turkeybird]

I’ve said this for a while, he’s the greatest passer in NBA history. The reason Bron and Magic are the best passers is because of their height compared to the all time great passing PGs. Jokers height allows him to create passes that not even Magic and James could accomplish

[@t4d0W]

It just makes sense. Smaller PGs who aren't as physical won't have as much positions to pass off from. Even Stockton's pass game was mostly having the offense in front of with threading the needle to his big who needs to be under the rim to score or to Karl Malone. He just racked up big numbers to all those opportunities similar to Nash. Walton at his prime got one of the best spots to get assists for a big which was to cutters. So it just makes sense that ideally the best passer in the game ever will have to be a tall ball handler with the best touch.

[@daveasmer3353]

Well said my friend...!!!

[@clover7726]

That makes guys like Trae Young and Chris Paul also much more impressive, their vision is so next level that even without the height they can deliver.

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

Nahh. I'll still take Magic, Nash and Kidd over him. I'll probably put him over Bird, LeBron, Chris Paul and Stockton.

[@ezsmith3765]

You need to watch Bird passing HLs

[@basketballguyOCE]

This video is awesome! Really great insights and you provided a genuinely unbiased and fair look at some of the best players we know. Great watch.

[@jameslee1062]

Great video. Great analysis. Jokic is the best passer EVER. And I've been watching the NBA since 1973.

[@ronpapi9539]

Luka Doncic!

[@georgebrowniii3850]

i can't help but chuckle every time i watch jokic's passes, they leave me amazed every single time

[@kencobbley5548]

One of the ways Jokic makes everyone on his team better is they ALL know they could be getting some ridiculous pass at any time even when they are seemingly covered, which means they are always on the alert and probably give a better effort to create opportunities where they might get a pass.

[@markharrington7843]

Jason "White Chocolate" Williams dramatically improved the alertness of his Kings teammates during his rookie year in '98 when they began to realize that the ball could magically land in their hands from anywhere on the court. For awhile the Kings played to packed audiences who where there largely to see J-Will. The Kings became a playoff team for years. I did not think that I would ever see a better passer until Jokic came on the scene.

[@marlolozada6322]

My idea of an accomplished player is in the passing. His consciousness of where his teammates are is really astonishing. Makes the game so much fun.

[@sebby007]

Great work on the breakdown. The fact that one segment is from one game, and the video from one season, is almost unbelievable.

[@nithilanamudhan6260]

Jokic is the best passer i have seen. No disrepect to Nash, Magic etc but i never got to watch them. I am so glad I could watch such greatness from Jokic

[@sageskye4579]

bron?

[@nithilanamudhan6260]

@@sageskye4579 2nd best as a passer I have seen. It's not a disrespect to bron just praise on jokic

[@ConclusionGaming]

@@sageskye4579 always thought he was the best passer on the planet before Jokic. Most definitely the number #2 passer in the league behind Jokic atm. Top 10 all time without a doubt

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

Seems likes he’s only interested in best flashy passing which is why Stockton or even Chris Paul aren’t even mentioned. Stockton less the league in assist 9 straight seasons averaging as much as 14.5 and had tremendous assist to turnover ration at high volume yet not one mention. Only counts if you do behind the back pass I guess.

[@t4d0W]

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson You are led to believe that volume is everything. Assists to some degree are stat padding stats and until you see the film, you won't distinguish the degrees of difficulty of the assist per situation. As well with how scoring was done in different eras so cross-gen comparisons are unfair to some point. Even in the video dude said Nash racked up assists in terms of volume per opportunity since he was always probing with his dribble inside the perimeter. If you see Jokic's film his pass opportunities are just as varied as the best and the degree of difficulty is high. But it helps that he's tall as hell and he's got amazing touch.

[@ivan24zg]

What is funny is that in many of these passes against Memphis, Steven Adams was like "wtf is going on" lol

[@akagamishanks2774]

I don't really have deep knowledge of Basketball tactics on a high level, but in Football (soccer) this passing technique is used quite a lot by talented midfielders, the theory, in short, they don't target the player they want to pass to but the free space between the lines they anticipate the action before happening, and an advanced defensive team will always mark the spaces and not the attacking players.

[@adamhenwood1114]

I see Jokic as more a big centre forward who holds up the play. In the clips of Magic and Bird they were passing quickly on the break, whereas Jokic slows down the play and uses his size and strength to hold off defenders until someone else makes an attacking run so that he can pick them out. He’s really really good

[@lucpaesmusic]

Jokic to me looks like a giant Bobby Firmino if you compare it to football players.

[@bigdaddycraze]

Great video. Great breakdown of Jokic. Great run down of the best passers in history. Would have preferred a mention of all time assist leader Stockton in there too.

[@therambler3713]

I hope the Nuggets can go all the way and get him the ring he deserves.

[@vukans595]

He's truly unbelivable, one of a kind!

[@macedindu829]

Jokic has some of the best skills in the paint as a big man. And he's also one of the best PGs in the league.

[@TheTechAdmin]

I don't watch sports, any, at all. But I know enough to say with conviction that people like Nikola Jokic change and evolve whatever field they decide to be a part of. I wish I could see 10 years into the future with his existence, and without it. Because I really think the entire sport will change as much a single athlete could.

[@pathape]

He does things on the floor that people can't emulate. He's the master of all the small things that dont register in a lot of peoples minds. It's not the one on one basketball that kids and the casual fans can easily understand and they can pretend to do. I would like to see an all star game, the US all stars vs the international all stars. We are losing ground quickly.

[@starbeamsora6986]

Jokic most underrated playmaking ability is his split second decision making. Ge is much like Larry in that aspect. Imo he’s definitely top 3-5 all time playmakers ever. 💯

[@hjkhjkim]

0:10 Love when that beat drops

[@louliwanag6287]

Crazy to think Jokic is a 2nd rd pick and now a back to back MVP and on the top in the race on his supposedly 3rd MVP award. Denver really needs to win a ring while Jokic is still on his prime.

[@mikefrost5575]

This comment aged like fine 🍷. ^_^

[@jaxsonbateman]

I honestly hope he can win a chip at some point. I know a lot of all-time greats don't, just because you need so much to go right and you can't do it alone, but he's definitely worthy on an individual level.

[@arnoldd9664]

Nuggets are first in the west. Tbh I’m rooting for them

[@RecapRico]

Unless you actively go out of your way to watch Nuggets games you'll never see how great he is. His box score looks amazing and even then you'd still be missing out

[@davidschulman7988]

Agree with your analysis. I think in the end will come down to how many championship rings he earns and his longevity in the league. As a Nuggets fan I would totally enjoy another 7 to 10 years of watching him and his teammates who are all quality players that could contrinute to any team making a legit run at the title.

[@HikoSeijuroXIII]

It's heartbreaking watching his teammates brick shot after shot on his tremendous passes in the beginning segment.

[@nabeelhossain5524]

Always wait for a Jokic vid whenever you upload any. He's an absolute freak of a basketball player/mind. Could you maybe please make a similar vid of his scoring ability. Would absolutely love that !!

[@leungsz]

Ben has a few videos on Jokic's overall skills, so feel free to check those out first.

[@nabeelhossain5524]

@@leungsz Thanks !

[@cameronmilne8995]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJjYdohmfKyYZsU one of Thinking Basketball videos highlighting both scoring and passing.