Is Nikon hurting sales by doing this?

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Vahagraphy

Vahagraphy

Күн бұрын

Is Nikon killing themselves by allowing this? Is Nikon shooting themselves in the foot by allowing 3rd party lens makers to make lenses for Z mount? Opening up the Z mount for all?
How good are some of these lenses by Viltrox, Sirui, Tamron and such?
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Let's talk about this and I'll give you my thoughts.
Leave your thoughts in the comment section.
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@JRodPhotoArt
@JRodPhotoArt Ай бұрын
Third party lenses are amazing. All camera companies should support third party lenses. More options at all price points is always good for business! Rock and Roll V !!
@dicekolev5360
@dicekolev5360 Ай бұрын
3rd party lenses even have better 3d pop, haha. Nikon cares only about sharpness and CA
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
ROCK N ROLL JAMES. Hope your well.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
hhaha that 3D pop. Paging Kasey fro CC. lol
@JRodPhotoArt
@JRodPhotoArt Ай бұрын
@ All is well!!
@loihpatli
@loihpatli Ай бұрын
I wish Nikon would equip their En-El15 batteries with type-c port, just like SmallRig. Especally after they put the charger off the box
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
that would be cool. however cost will go up for each battery. Just include a darn charger for every camera sold.
@Cotictimmy
@Cotictimmy Ай бұрын
Nikon (allowing third-party lenses) - Nikon doing great very popular. Canon (banned third-party lenses) - canon owners not too happy.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
yes, Canon will come around. I don't buy the "3rd party shorting camera and voiding the warranty" argument. lol. Hasn't happened to me ever.
@Photojouralist123
@Photojouralist123 Ай бұрын
Vahagn I have the z6/3 I love its a real power house for such a small camera and now with $300 off it's a no brainer.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Yup John. Next on my list of cameras to own. Hope your travels are going well my friend.
@Danthecapoman
@Danthecapoman Ай бұрын
Love the hat at 2:58
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
DARK NIKON MAGA MAN. haha
@angeloplayforone
@angeloplayforone Ай бұрын
It is not only Tony Northrup that doesn’t get Nikon stuff. Also Gordon Laing of CameraLabs.
@reganalbertson3210
@reganalbertson3210 Ай бұрын
For all the reasons mentioned…I still have a Sigma 70-200 F that works well with my F and Z mounts, but will never replace a Nikon, but works great for my purposes. I agree with the idea that if it gets bad, it no hair off my tail to pay for a replacement, but if I was on a job it’d be a problem. The rising tide lifts all boats.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Always carry a back up. If my 70-200 goes down I have an 85mm in the bag. Sure it takes some extra steps to get the right Framing but I can deal with it. Yes, make more lenses for Z mount. More options the better.
@dgorenc66
@dgorenc66 Ай бұрын
Z glass by NIKON is always fantastic but having cheaper options are good to get peeps into the NIKON System and once you are invested in the System you really want to have some NIKKOR GLASS , I have 28mm 40 mm and 24-70 F4 S and love all of them , as well as many F Mount lenses for my FTZ ........also will be getting VILTROX 20mm for Z .......Just a great system and yes thank you NIKON for third party lenses .....
@dgorenc66
@dgorenc66 Ай бұрын
HEY Z ...glad to see you back on KZbin ........ROCK AND ROLL continues .....be well
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Thank you DGORENC66. Let's rock n roll.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
yes I agree. having more options just attracts more buyers.
@Artur-s2h
@Artur-s2h Ай бұрын
Great video. I bought a viltrox lens because of Vahagraphy and I'm very happy with it .
@LuisCruz-yg6rs
@LuisCruz-yg6rs Ай бұрын
Great video, and you did amazing job with lighting it up. I think the next steps for these Chinese Lens company is that they will also make their own camera body eventually. For example, Sigma eventually made the Sigma FP after many years of making lenses. It is true that the FP is not the best camera out there, but for a company that focus primarily in making lenses, they did an great job with that camera, it offers 12-bit CinemaDNG RAW + 4K up to 30fps in compact body in Full frame, and I still see some KZbinrs here and there talking very positive about how good the camera is for making video content creation.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Thanks Luiz. Appreciate you appreciating my lighting setup. Very easy 2 light setup. One main and a color kicker in the back for some added spice. I played with that Sigma body at one of the trade shows. Interesting camera. I'm waiting for Nikon to show up with a real Red Hybrid.
@LuisCruz-yg6rs
@LuisCruz-yg6rs Ай бұрын
@@Vahagraphy Thank you for sharing the lighting setup. I have a feeling that the Red Camera with Nikon Auto focus is happening sometime this year. We will have see.
@angeloplayforone
@angeloplayforone Ай бұрын
Nikon needs to let the third party release all their lineup of lenses. Viltrox, Tamron, Sigma, Rokinon/Samyang, Meike, Sirui, Voigtlander and other should and most be encouraged to release all their E- mount lenses in the Z mount. On the long run it will let consumer get into the Z mount. Later when RED moves from RF to Z mount then there are the good willing of lens manufacturers who trust Nikon.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Ahh RED, we forgot about the Cinema lenses. YES. Good move and I agree with everything you said.
@DAVE_WHITE
@DAVE_WHITE Ай бұрын
I am glad to see this, Sony has had an open system for a long time and there are amazing lenses for the Sony, giving more options.. I am glad Nikon is opening the system up as well!!!
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Agreed. The lenses 3rd party make are becoming better and better. I am pleasantly surprised. Sure the coating. focus motors. smoothness of focus , corner sharpness. CA chromatic aberration is going to probably be better with the Nikon lenses. hence the price you pay but for some the Viltrox and Suriu stuff is just fine.
@neoshazam
@neoshazam Ай бұрын
The Z6III is really good.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
that's next on my list. Nikon marketing sleeping on the wheel or else I would of had so many Z6III videos out now. Ohh well. lol
@kaminobatto
@kaminobatto Ай бұрын
I own both 1st and 3rd party lenses. I get the 1st party for the optical performance and quality promise, but I get 3rd party, quite a few of them in fact, for the character and the wider apertures they offer. I am yet to own a Viltrox lens, but I have quite a few TTArtisan,and 7Artisans lenses in addition to some Sigma and Tamron glass, and I really love their love their rendering, even with their imperfections, which to me are part of the charm and character. Moreover, a lot of these companies make glass with focal lengths and bright apertures that are not available from Nikon as you pointed out, and about 90% of my 3rd party glass falls under these categories. The build quality is usually very good as well, so what's not to like? I vote with my wallet to support their R&D efforts, especially that there is nothing that breaks the bank usually and the value for money is excellent.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Yamen, you always have been a great guy with a very level headed approach and you have allot of valuable exp with gear so I love reading your take on photography. Thank you bro.
@kaminobatto
@kaminobatto Ай бұрын
That's kind of you, V! I just try to keep it real with regards to what I use and why I use it. Cheers!
@shubhankarmondal8924
@shubhankarmondal8924 Ай бұрын
Give us a full review of that Sirui 85 mm 1.4...the autofocus performance...the focus breathing...the corner to corner sharpness... Love your videos... love from India... Rock & Roll
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
For sure. Full review coming up very soon. I will also include some real world portraiture.
@johnhjic2
@johnhjic2 Ай бұрын
hello Vahagraphy, Not sure if Nikon is shooting itself in the foot, But I know when I tried no bought a Sigma lens that was £500 less than the nearest Nikon lens. After reading so many glowing reports of this amazing? I was so disappointed whit it I gave it way for free and then bought the Nikon version. I know that that was in the F mount and there are some amazing third party lenses from Ziess, but they tended to be more expensive than the Nikon lenses. So my point is that I will alway look at OEM lenses for my kit. (Nikon and Hasselblad) I know it cost me more but they just work. One more thing I must add is the Nikon Z glass is next level for image qualitity. Good to see you back.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Nikon Z is on another level. correct. there are many Z lenses I love and cannot be touched. but man, these pro DX viltrox lenses are great. this Sirui is top notch. You have the best top lenses, Nikon and Hassi so your eye is trained for the best of the best.
@camerasutra247
@camerasutra247 Ай бұрын
Just get the R1. Keep up the great work.
@dicekolev5360
@dicekolev5360 Ай бұрын
R1 is waste of money, not really a reason to show off 🤷🏻‍♂️ Get R3 instead if you'll be going with Canon
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
So I like both you guyses comments here. I am actually going back and forth on this one. I will eventually buy a Canon just to have for my channel for comparison with KING NIKON lol I know Amar appreciates that line, hahaha. but actually I'm thinking should I just bite the bullet and go for new future proof features just to have the latest canon on the channel. R5II maybe but I've always had a lusting for Pro uni body flagships.
@dicekolev5360
@dicekolev5360 Ай бұрын
@@Vahagraphy Heyy Vahagn, if you have the spare money, why not, life is short! That very same phrase will be taking my money for more years to come when I bought z9 and z800PF so don't take financial advices from these comments 😄🥴🥴
@camerasutra247
@camerasutra247 Ай бұрын
@@Vahagraphy the problem is what you call. The king has a very small kingdom. We like you too, bro just go do what you Gotta do be truly to yourself and be who you are. Don’t worry about these brands. None of them give a shit for either one of us.
@castieldiallo2945
@castieldiallo2945 Ай бұрын
of course not, vahog. i for one would like that tamron 20 - 40 f2.8. however, its not available for the z mount. now i am considering getting a megadap. the tamrom 28 - 75 is decent.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
I'd love to try out that 35-150 2.8 is it?
@castieldiallo2945
@castieldiallo2945 Ай бұрын
@@Vahagraphy its decent, but i have found that i need 24mm on occasion. hence why i am eyeing the tamron 20 - 40mm.
@PhotographyTeachMetoFish
@PhotographyTeachMetoFish Ай бұрын
I would really like to see the old Tamron SP line in native Z-mount. Fine rendering, solidly built, primes with VR so we can have that for full frame and include the crop sensor cameras that lack IBIS. Tokina has always had some great offerings that here often overlooked as well. Sigma can step off. Some of the worst service after the sale of any mainstay brand, they rank down there with Sony.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
I remember that famous Tokina wide zoom that everyone had for F mount. good lens. I've had good luck with Tamron. Never really got into Sigma Art because I had the Nikon F counterpart.
@mobilography6786
@mobilography6786 Ай бұрын
Hey V bro I prefer original lenses they are strong and hold their values.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
True. I do too however man. these latest offerings make you appreciate what these little guys are doing. Better for all of us.
@drewclark1311
@drewclark1311 Ай бұрын
Hi . Just watched your latest video on KZbin. Glad you are back. You’re the only one actually talks sense and not like the other Sam boys content crap their Puke out all the time keep up the good work and thanks again.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I appreciate the kind wishes. Lets rock n roll.
@Vemovemo1
@Vemovemo1 Ай бұрын
I have been a Nikon shooter for years and the reason that i stay on the brand is because of the third party glass: Laowa, Tamron, Viltrox, all of them are making amazing products, i have some Nikon z lenses too, more options more better. Viltrox 85mm 1,8: Amazing, Laowa 90mm macro: amazing, Laowa 15mm f2, amazing and there isn´t nothing like it on the nikon z line.
@manilamartin1001
@manilamartin1001 Ай бұрын
I shoot sony as my primary video because i love tamron lenses. I do love nikon and still use it for photo but sony has great third party video lenses.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
One thing Sony has done is made 3rd party openly available. Great selling point.
@loihpatli
@loihpatli Ай бұрын
I have a feeling that Nikon would release 16mm lens as a part of their recent f1.4 series
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Sure and I will welcome it. Will be priced around $1100-1200 if they do. This viltrox does a great job,. Full review coming soon.
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 Ай бұрын
I often wonder of the Chinese will ever start to make mirrorless cameras. Eg they already make DJI etc
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
anything is possible . For now I'll stick with the Japanese for camera bodies. :)
@Saber_Nico
@Saber_Nico Ай бұрын
Sony has been doing that for a long time now and they're still at the top. I don't think Nikon would be affected at all for opening up to 3rd-parties. Canon, on the other hand, have been tumbling down since closing their mount off from 3rd parties until recently
@sirwillemgaming9686
@sirwillemgaming9686 Ай бұрын
I wish they add IBIS on an APSC camera so I can enjoy my 17-55 f2.8 more at lowlight. 😅
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
and for video work without VR lenses. HOw about a stacked aps-C 33 MP sensor.? Better battery. Hi rez big evf. Allot to offer.
@chrislognshot
@chrislognshot Ай бұрын
no it help people buy the cameras more buy having other making lens so people will want to get there camera more.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@domenicoavizzano8841
@domenicoavizzano8841 Ай бұрын
Nikon lenses are usually too expensive.. Moreover, Nikon DX lenses are almost inexistent and the lenses that they have realised are very, too much dark.. Then, I think Nikon should really change direction : clients and lovers are very tired.. D.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
which direction would you like Nikon to take?
@borlach321
@borlach321 Ай бұрын
I say no, Nikon needs advantages given its small market share. More options are better. Look at the insane cost of the Canon system.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Yup. I think the future looks brighter. Think of those people writing them off in 2016-17.
@bassangler73
@bassangler73 Ай бұрын
I just want my D500 replacement!!!
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
I think the more I hammer it home , Nikon might just do it. Look at how many Canon R7 cameras were sold. ALLOT. 32 MP ,, I actually want Nikon to make a Z500 with a stacked APS-C. Heck yah.
@sidvicious3129
@sidvicious3129 Ай бұрын
Absolutely not!!! Nikon has realized what Sony already knew and that is if you expand your lens selection, you expand your brand. People want and need cheaper lens selections because it drives them to your brand. Also third party can develop lenses that Nikon doesn’t have or have no interest in developing. Nikon has copied Tamron with the 28-75mm and the 70-180. Longevity is no longer a problem. People marry their lenses and date their camera bodies.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Exactly. Some might argue it kinda of hurts lens sales but it actually helps sales. Example of this, One gets into photography. buys that 85 in this video. gets more serious into photography. starts charging for work, then eventually buys the Nikon 1.2 beast.
@airtyme
@airtyme Ай бұрын
But nikon is only half allowing these third party lenses. Anything that conflicts with nikons line up of lenses then they aren't coming to z mount which suck almost as much as banning third party
@loihpatli
@loihpatli Ай бұрын
They accepted few 50mm, 85 mm AF lenses from Viltrox, Youngnuo, 7Artisans which is straight conflict with the current line. And 135mm Viltrox is on the way
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
I wouldn't say they suck. the early viltrox lenses were good. Not amazing but good. The newer stuff is excellent. This Sirui is AWESOME.
@jimbo27
@jimbo27 Ай бұрын
What tree, it's be obliterated, if that's what it is in the background. 🤣
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
Sirui's' BOKEH monster. hehe
@kennethmills5470
@kennethmills5470 Ай бұрын
I am a REAL American Capitalist all for Competition.
@juanherrera9028
@juanherrera9028 Ай бұрын
No longer a fan sorry I ever followed you
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
I keep it pretty cool in my responses and try to stay level headed but WTF is that to say to me? Stick your sorry where the sun dont shine and F off. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, same goes for the one that thumbed up this stupid comment. " Sorry you even followed me ? Don't me sorry and just buzz off.
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 Ай бұрын
I used to read about Nikon hoping to get to 1.7 lenses sold per camera. I don't think they will ever get to that. So many people have 3 or 4 bodies, and also with these cheaper non Nikon lenses, they will ever get there.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
I think many start off 3rd party and migrate to the Nikon lenses but given the rate, price and quality of these latest lenses and also the state of the economy things have changed. People are finding work arounds for many solutions.
@angeloplayforone
@angeloplayforone Ай бұрын
Nikon needs to let the third party release all their lineup of lenses. Viltrox, Tamron, Sigma, Rokinon/Samyang, Meike, Sirui, Voigtlander and other should and most be encouraged to release all their E- mount lenses in the Z mount. On the long run it will let consumer get into the Z mount. Later when RED moves from RF to Z mount then there are the good willing of lens manufacturers who trust Nikon.
@Vahagraphy
@Vahagraphy Ай бұрын
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