Is NVIDIA Worth It On Linux?

[@roborob347]

The user experience with Nvidia on Linux has definitely improved and you can achieve amazing performance. But for me personally, I've gotten so used to AMD and the vast majority of distros come with AMD drivers out of the box anyway. It just works.

[@77wolfblade]

It's going to take a good amount of time for Nvidia drivers to get that good compared to AMD on Linux..

[@xrafter]

I saw someone in youtube complains that AMD gpu doesn't work as well as nvidia in linux when using davinici resolve, if you use resolve can you say if amd works well in DaVinci resolve without hassle or not? No need to tell me which is better just if AMD works well or not.

[@emanuelefusco4466]

@@xrafter DaVinci resolve can work on linux with an amd gpu, you just need amd gpu pro drivers (closed source) to enable all the features that you need (for example opencl), there are some videos on youtube. The thing is, you already have an AMD gpu or you just plan to buy one? if you don't have one and DaVinci resolve is very important for you, then just buy nvidia. If you already have an amd gpu it should work. That being said, if you are a professional nvidia is better on both linux and windows, but if you just use DaVinci resolve for fun then amd is fine.

[@UltimatePerfection]

With AI workflows being more common you unfortunately have to have nVidia to take full advantage of it.

[@demanuDJ]

EVERY linux distro comes with AMD and Intel drivers out of the box because all you need is Kernel + Mesa

[@mevgayming]

4:03 nvidia didn't refuse to implement it, wayland devs did because they argued implicit sync was good enough because amd used it

[@MyAmazingUsername]

100% this. It was so frustrating to watch. And then NVIDIA implemented explicit sync FOR THEM and contributed it to the Xwayland project, who then spent 2 years stalling/arguing, until finally merging.

[@-in-the-meantime...]

100% sure Nvidia implemented explicit sync for themselves.. edit - It's a big deal for them to do it to achieve compatibility for their devices.. but it's like expected or something from other manu's 🤪

[@thejackimonster9689]

Because implicit sync never was an issue, lol. It's not like AMD and Intel are the only GPU vendors on Linux here. So if Nvidia decides to be the snowflake, of course devs are mad.

[@UltimatePerfection]

​@@thejackimonster9689Yeah, try saying that again once amd/Intel catches up to the nVidia performance. Explicit sync is there for a reason. AND THAT REASON IS SPEED.

[@thejackimonster9689]

@@UltimatePerfection I think what you mean is latency but whatever.

[@wamellow]

I switched to a Intel Arc a770 sortly before I switched to linux (again) - previously had a GTX 1060 and really only had issues with it on Linux I didn't want to deal with. Yeah I am a programmer and am not afraid of tugging through forums, the terminal or TTYs, but having so much trouble with the "basics" of displaying stuff is/was just tiering for me. And hey, I find my arc a770 epic

[@baysidejr]

@@wamellow I have an arc a770 and thought it sucked for Linux because performance was not close to what you get on windows. Have they improved?

[@wamellow]

@@baysidejr I only play a handful of games like modded Minecraft and Factorio - and in these games it works perfectly fine, way over 60 FPS if I disable vsync

[@EHKvlogs]

unfortunately the availability of arc is not great in my country, while nvidia is literally everywhere.

[@LSonurB]

I recently started using a modern nvidia gpu with endeaovourOS and it's been working just fine

[@iFlxy]

A long time ago I had a GT 1030 and I've experienced all of these issues mentioned in this video + more, and so did my friend with an RTX 4080, but what's surprising is that my other friend with a GTX 1060 didn't experience any of this.

[@AndRei-yc3ti]

Short answer - yes. Nvidia works well on linux and has for a while. Particularly with Nvidia now announcing a greater focus on linux and wayland

[@MichaelNROH]

I think it's great for those who already have a card. Makes it a lot smoother to transition

[@Pro_Paks]

Have a 4090 and switched to Nobara from windows 11 a month ago. Haven’t really had significant issues

[@ybcanal21]

Nvidia has change its mind and is on the right tracks. Hopefully they'll manage to have all the features working as good as Windows (or better performance within Linux).

[@lazyh0rse]

If you will use x11, then nvidia is already great! I had a good experience with nvidia without any issues. The only important thing is to lock down the driver version and never update it if it works already great. Wayland is way overhyped, it's not there yet, but people constant complain that nvidia is not working with wayland. I have a separate pc with amd, and let me tell you, it's not ready. It works, but it still lacks features and support from softwares, it's not good either way even if you have amd gpu. Also, there are exclusive softwares where they explicitly mention that they don't intend to ever support nvidia, so there's that... Side note: I strongly recommend using nvidia-vaapi-driver, it lets you have hardware acceleration in browsers with nvidia.

[@sherrilltechnology]

I have an RTX 4070 and it has been awesome so far, there was one distro I had trouble with but it is escaping me. I am pretty sure I did a video on it. Over the last 6 to 7 months though I have seen no issues, great video Michael!!

[@anikethkumar904]

I've had an Nvidia 3080 as I started my Linux journey, installing Nvidia drivers has usually been one of the harder things to do on certain dsitro's, apart from archinstall, which I'm using now. However, once the driver is ready to go then it works like a charm, games run amazingly on steam. There may be some issues with Wayland, but nothing major.

[@UltraZelda64]

I've used nVidia since my first PC in the mid 1990s. When I got my current laptop back in 2014, I again chose nVidia for familiarity, although I was considering AMD instead--but a previous bad experience with ATI was the deciding factor in that not happening. Luckily the laptop also has Intel graphics which, while weak, is better than nothing--and it doesn't require any special proprietary drivers or extra crap to be done on my part to be able to use. It just works. I don't even bother installing nVidia drivers anymore--but then, I'm not getting full performance out of my laptop. I haven't felt like dealing with the trouble of nVidia drivers since my old desktop machine back in the early 2000s. I don't know when I'll get another computer (desktop or laptop), but if the situation is anywhere near like it was a decade ago, I think I'll go AMD. It took a while for AMD to truly take off after opening their drivers, which is the main reason other than my prior bad experience for choosing nVidia in my laptop--so a lot of it comes down to timing. nVidia is only "just now" showing signs of opening up, so they're really not even at the point where AMD was back then. And AMD/Intel have long been the champions of pain-free Linux usability with no third-party proprietary drivers. At this rate, I'll probably only consider AMD or just plain Intel graphics for at least a decade, when presumably (if nVidia continues through) their Linux support will have reached similar compatibility to the others.

[@1313Swoop]

Timing is so perfect

[@iotku]

560 Drivers are finally quite good with Wayland on my 1080ti under Plasma, still have issues with OBS Crashes and resuming from sleep (which isn't a major concern on a desktop). but past that things have been quite stable and reasonably performant. Not super happy it took this long to have a usable system under Wayland, but I'm glad we've made it here before my card lost driver support.

[@arthurpizza]

I bought an Nvidia 3060 for machine learning, and on Debian it was easy to set up. Kernel updates take a bit longer and my system currently doesn't like Wayland that much, but other than that it feels fairly native.

[@TheGenius0]

In my experience I recently switched from windows to fedora and I’m using an nvidia graphics card. In my experience haven’t noticed any issues. Took some setup but it’s been positive overall! If theirs any stutters in games in such I mostly ignore them since it is rare. Overall I’m happy with it and use it mostly for gaming so can’t speak for professionals. But would say if you have nvidia card and that’s what keeping you from trying Linux, give it a shot worse case you can go back to windows

[@MichaelNROH]

I'm not sure if stutters in games are caused by NVIDIA in particular. CS2 for example is just terrible on Linux in terms of performance, and Wayland on Gnome also wasn't that great for high fps in terms of smoothness (if you know what to look for)

[@TheGenius0]

@@MichaelNROHI will say I play a lot of older games and some newer games. Not to many shooters but I’ll be playing like the new silent hill 2 remake some resident evil and such. But otherwise doing anything else feels smoother then when I handle windows in my opinion. Could just be a mental thing but my pc just seems to run way better.

[@proboszcz44]

@@MichaelNROH nope cs2 is fine on linux i got rtx 2060 and i got stable 180fps, u just have to run it with highest cpu clock

[@MichaelNROH]

@@proboszcz44 Try playing a round of deathmatch or a competitive game. You can observe how the framerate drops over time. My system can push 350fps on average, but drops to 140fps after 6 - 8 minutes. Very consistent

[@proboszcz44]

@@MichaelNROH yea i had issues with cs2 too i had massive drops to 60fps but i switched cpu governors from acpi to intel pstate, not sure if it significantly changed anything but performance mode for sure did and now its been working well. i also got disabled hyper threading.

[@Its-Just-Zip]

I had a lot of issues with the broken frame pacing on Wayland and it got to the point where I just went and bought an AMD card. My Nvidia card still lives in my system and is still in use. It's just now in use exclusively for CUDA and NVENC. I don't use it for graphical output.

[@kodemasterx]

I have a 3080ti, on X11 my current issues are Steam Big Picture Mode and Team Fortress 2 no longer works but if I switch to Wayland I see all kinds of artifacts on screen but TF2 does work, so I have to be switching between the two unfortunately. My next upgrade most likely be and AMD card as there’s no way I’m going back to windows.

[@armagedon515]

I am testing Wayland on Nvidia right now with a GT1030 on the latest Manjaro KDE distro and I am getting a black screen on Wayland. X11, however it works fine with the proprietary drivers. Note the same card on Kubuntu 24.10 works fine with the recommended 560 Nvidia drivers. Manjaro offer older drivers.

[@holgerwikingsen713]

I use NVIDIA "GPUs" on Linux because I do a lot of CUDA. I don't use them as display adapters (they don't even have connectors). Support for CUDA on Linux is flawless, to my surprise. The output display adapter is a true NVIDIA GPU and hardware acceleration works pretty well. But that's just me and my setup. Lucky maybe?

[@williamsk001]

I had an nVidia 2060 up until about 6 months ago when I upgraded to a 4080 Super. I haven't had any issues with Linux Mint or Manjaro (also running Cinnamon), but I'm still in X11. Maybe Wayland users have issues - I dunno.

[@pip5528]

I have an old Nvidia desktop, an Nvidia laptop, and an AMD build. I have certainly found AMD to be more seamless overall but Nvidia has gotten pretty good. I love the 560 drivers especially. Wayland has stopped stuttering since 555.58 and I pretty much use it exclusively with either brand. Funnily enough, my OpenSUSE installation's X11 stopped working when I migrated the drive from the old Nvidia machine to the AMD build so I'm forced to use Wayland. Hybrid Nvidia graphics can be a bit of a pain for the certain games that end up defaulting to the iGPU and do require a bit of tinkering with Prime. On occasion you might even need to add the environment variable that tells it where the cache is.

[@alex-chicago-80]

I haven't used Linux in a long time. I run a 4070, i9900K, and I can't even get past choosing to boot off of my USB lol. I don't use my PC anymore, I'd like to install SteamOS, I'll give it a shot at some point.

[@VoidDave]

im using pc with nvidia gpu.i never had major problem. all those bad press is ghost of the past or someone who didn't update driver in like 1y+

[@maxthier1060]

I'm currently daily driving a 2080S with Nobara + KDE (Wayland) and mostly happy with it. My only issue, which to be fair is quite a big one, is that Nvidia GPUs on Linux don't have shared memory. This means that my little 8 GB of VRAM is everything the GPU can use and if it reaches that limit random things get OOM killed (often leaving RAM reserved for things that don't run anymore, and I therefore have to restart my pc). It mostly happens while alt+tab or some demanding games. On Windows these were never a problem because the Nvidia drivers on Windows can use some CPU memory for offloading and therefore prevent crashes (similar to swapping). Unfortunately I don't have a satisfying solution for this...

[@naraera]

@@maxthier1060 this issue is also amplified when using Sober, the community's solution to playing Roblox on Linux. the GPU won't clear its unused VRAM, so it will crash if given enough time

[@EfeDursun125]

me too, the OOM killer was disabled on my system. my computer froze and I lost 1300 gb of data stored for 5 years

[@xroman_]

yep and nvidia have ignored this issue on all the forums and bug reports for years now.

[@MichaelNROH]

Interesting

[@MrTomas7777]

Didn't know of this. Looks pretty bad.

[@chriscrouse3918]

I've had a pleasant experience with nvidia on arch and fedora since the explicit sync drivers were released. On distros that weren't caught up to 555, not so much.

[@chrismcdonnell7448]

I've been using AMD CPU and GPU since I installed Linux back in 2018. Never going back to Nvidia unless they bring prices down and also put their drivers in the Kernel like AMD did.

[@MichaelNROH]

They are very expensive yeah

[@Sonic6293]

With my current Arch install, I played around with Nvidia a bit, I had to switch to X11 to make things easier. I could do everything I wanted to. Went back to AMD for ease of use and quality of life though. I think I'll relegate my RTX 3050 to a server build and let it do some transcoding

[@infinitivez]

Running a 1070 in Arch on Plasma/KDE. Had some initial configuration issues after switching to the propriety drivers, but nothing reading the arch wiki on NVIDIA didn't fix (it was a single config line). Sure, I'm using an older system/card, but I'm fairly happy with how it's been performing. Lot better than windows in many ways. I can squeeze 60fps out of a lot of games, I could never before.

[@BWGPEI]

As happens, my test system where I tested Linux distributions before switching to Linux, had an older NVIDIA video card. Thus, a distribution had to work, or I moved on to a different distribution. to test. I agree with other comments that NVIDIA has has improved greatly.

[@MichaelNROH]

Thanks for sharing

[@BWGPEI]

@@MichaelNROH Given how helpful you are, it pleases me greatly to help you.

[@llorentemartinez]

GTX 1080, all the problems I had with the previous drivers and wayland are solved. I use my pc for everything but primary for gaming and im realli thinking of getting and AMD card.

[@chorba]

I'm an nvidia linux user myself and I can assure you that the experience is pretty much flawless with Fedora 40. However, it's not absolutely perfect, and you might want to switch to amd or intel for a 10/10 journey.

[@average-arch-enjoyer]

Linux actually turned me into a AMD fan boy. Their price to performance ratio is crazy. The rtx 4090 is only 30% faster than the Rx 7900 xtx which costs less than half of the Nvidia card.

[@TheZakarumite]

i bought rtx 4060 and installed on kubuntu 24 and everything is fine. Driver installed correct (not the newest tho) and i can even play video games with no issue.

[@marioawario6125]

I tried getting NVIDIA to work on Kubuntu LTS like 2 months ago, but I had the black screen issue on 2/3 if reboots. When I tried to fix it, i got a black screen with only the mouse cursor visible. So I went for Fedora, where the driver install procedure was more complicated, but succeeded on the first attempt using a step by step video guide. This was on a laptop, so I suspect Kubuntu had some problems managing Intel and NVIDIA GPUs at the same time. I'm not an expert, and since I don't really care what distro I'm using, as long as it's KDE, I stayed on Fedora and never looked back.

[@Anifix123]

I started learning Godot...then a day later Brackeys started teach godot I plan on using linux...now the only problem i had bout linix is gone I didnt want to go to a party yesterday and it rained heavily and no one went to party My phone was misbehaving and i got a new phone as a bday gift after few days I had a literature project deadline and I wasn't able to complete it and then my teacher postponed the deadline Gods Why m i so fortunate ?

[@werdfeefs7027]

As someone who is highly thrilled about finally being able to switch to Linux (complicated monitor setup requiring Wayland, with an nvidia card), I *highly* suggest you check out NIXOS. It does a lot of things differently than normal Linux, which means people hate trying to switch to it from what they know... But if you start out with it, the benefits are crazy.

[@Mystic-zi8sn]

I had a stroke reading this

[@NJ-wb1cz]

​@@Mystic-zi8sn yes officer, this person right here

[@luigidabro]

What will you do with all the time saved from making this unreadable?

[@novantric]

Put ubuntu on my system recently and aside from some crashes between flatpak and Wayland and sleep not working at all, its been largely painless and i am pretty damn happy with how well everything works. Still, i should be able to put my system to sleep.

[@skorne7682]

I've found that distro using up to date packages and drivers such as Cachyos or Fedora now work pretty flawlessly, otherwise you're pretty much stuck on x11 unless you want to roll the dice installing 555 or later with the nvidia installer. Looking at you Tumbleweed.

[@Afurai_]

I have a 2070S that's been on Nobara for 3 months now... I have had seriously, no issues. at all.. 😱 I have a triple monitor setup, all with different refresh rates, orientations, and ICC color profiles. Everything from gaming, alt-tabbing about, and using AI has been perfect. I even managed to get Photoshop, FL Studio, and a few other Windows only programs to work okay. (of course it's not going to be perfect, but that's not the GPU's fault) I do not have any issues other than the inherent performance loss when using proton, DX12, raytracing, etc., which may be a thing of the past once there are more users. Overall, I am much happier here than Windows, that's for sure!

[@redroC171]

I have two pcs, a desktop and a laptop, both using nvidia and I've not had any issues with either one. when I first switched back to linux after about half a decade of not using it I was worried the nvidia gpus would cause problems but neither one has, they both work excellently in KDE with both wayland and xorg on Arch (or rather Endeavour)

[@t0uchme343]

GWE and FG are the two things needed for perfection.

[@buneyecat]

i will never use nvidia i hate their monopoly

[@VektrumSimulacrum]

I have been surprised that I haven't had so much trouble when I switched my old gaming desktop over to linux on an Nvidia card. It was a good thing because my PSU was not going to run a RX580... safely.

[@AyaWetts]

I've been using nvidia with Linux for years... its been just fine. Most all the hate I see people spew are ones that have some fundamentalism over closed and open source.

[@MichaelNROH]

In a lot of cases yes

[@emanuelefusco4466]

yeah I noticed that too. They probably don't know much about amd gpu pro closed source drivers.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

They've only got a decent Wayland support like few months ago, and there are still bugs

[@UltimatePerfection]

​@@NJ-wb1czWayland is one huge bug. Someone please call Earth Defense Firce, they've been slacking off.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

@@UltimatePerfection x11 is a huge bug by design, it's pretty much a special malware facilitator installed as a system package

[@MasterPJ86]

I'm with Nvidia since about 10 years, I still have a gtx 1060 which went through many distros, at the moment lmde. It was always a pain to configure the power savings profiles, fan rotation, xorg and multimonitor and keep it so fixed for every reboot. And Avery distro updates with new kernel or driver version almost always introduced some kind of incompatibility. I'll soon switch to an amd rx 7800xt to complement my steam deck, do a fresh install of bazzite on the second SSD and be happy with the open source capabilities of amd for the rest of my life.

[@matthiasstuhlpfarrer7766]

could you make a more technical video where you show all the different ways of installing the drivers in detail, on lets say the 3 main linux distros? (Arch, RedHat, Debian)

[@megamodspc6436]

now the problem is wayland

[@anonytuser711]

Always has been.

[@AhmedARCH-b3i]

@@megamodspc6436 What is the wrong with wayland? I hear that alot that everyone complaining about it

[@infinitivez]

lol, when is wayland, not a problem? @AhmedARCH-b3i it's not horrible or anything. It just has a lot of little quirks. Quirks you'll spend a good amount of time trying to troubleshoot, only to find out weeks later it was indeed a wayland issue, and they fix it. Or will take 4-5 years to hold a meeting about a meeting, that will plan a day to finally fix it. Thankfully some Valve employees are stepping to help put some resolution safeguards in place for such instances. Because as with a lot of opinionated projects, it can get stale when two or more people don't agree on how to handle things; leaving us users out to waste away in the desert.

[@AnEagle]

​@@AhmedARCH-b3ibasically the developers are what you might call highly opinionated. They refuse to implement some features, sometimes for 5 years, because they think you don't need it

[@SirRFI]

Never tried NVIDIA GPU on desktop, but recent experience with laptops felt lackluster. First issue I had was that after some system updates, kernel module failed to rebuild or something, so until the next update it fell back to Nouveau. Eventually it gets tiresome. Second issue was when connecting a 4k TV via HDMI: Unlike on Windows, two different NVIDIA laptops would not switch input automatically on the TV side, and best it detected was 4k 30Hz with issues. Same on X11 and Wayland. Note that AMD Radeon laptop worked on Linux as well as any of these on Windows, so it's not strictly Linux problem. This was before open kernel modules, so maybe it has improved since, but it's still as recent as this and last year experience.

[@ВладимирДимов-л6р]

I think, even if Ray-traysing itself isn't that important for some people, there's one thing both AMD and NVIDIA should LEAST release on open-source drivers are theirs' upscaling technologies. Both DLSS and FSR should be always accessible and supported in opens-source drivers. Some people that have either weaker or older (and NOT very recent generations) GPU or GPU, might not have enough horsepower on their NVidia or AMD GPU for acceptable FPS when play at native resolutions, for example they gets only 20 FPS at native resolution, but when they have either FSR or DLSS enabled to Quality or Balanced on their demanding game, and their FPS from laggy 20-25 FPS goes to smooth 45+ and upward? This is an example why Nvidia's DLSS and AMD's FSR must be always accessible without relying to theirs proprietary drivers. For AMD's FSR especially, their open-source drivers should at least implement support for FSR 2.x and 3.x versions especially, since these works better on weaker GPUs from all vendors - FSR 1.0 is pretty bad as visuals, while upcoming FSR 4.0 might becomes locked to AMD GPUs only, like DLSS nowadays is still unavailable on non-NVidia GPUs. Although in AMD's case, if you need connect a HDMI 2.1-only TV that have neither HDMI 2.0 or older nor a DisplayPort at all, you're out of luck - HDMI manufacturer has BANNED open-source HDMI 2.1 driver support on AMD a few months ago, and issue with AMD open-source drivers do not able do support HDMI 2.1 standard seems still UNRESOLVED. So if have a modern TV as monitor that have strictly HDMI 2.1 port only... you're restricted to only Intel ARC or NVidia RTX GPUs and their proprietary drivers to just have that basic functionality.

[@mordiagcaedes8611]

Do you know something, that I don't? Because otherwise you should clarify, that NVIDIA is _not_ actually going to opensource their drivers! Only the kernel-modules, but not the user-space driver part. And also _only_ for 20 series upwards! So if you're running a 1080 or older, you're still out of luck.

[@thejackimonster9689]

Not to mention that Nouveau has actually been pretty excellent for Nvidia GPUs in the past until they decided to require cryptographic signatures to bump up clock speed from base clock to anything beyond. The 10-series compatibility is an intended train wreck, made by Nvidia. They could actually make it work if they wanted it to do so.

[@MichaelNROH]

NVIDIA only starting contributing to Open Source, not replacing their driver. Regarding the cards themselves, yes they focus on newer models, but there are already efforts to make it compatible with older ones from the rest of the community. AMD and Intel also stop adding support for older cards, but they are often still maintained by the others since the code is open

[@Ssdj3nt0]

The new open kernel modules driver with GSP enabled by default introduced a lot of stutters, there were already enough of them in the previous version. So with my rtx 3080, I decided it was best to stick to closed source kernel modules with NVreg_EnableGpuFirmware=0 for now. Dx12 performances are bad. In conclusion, playing on nvidia can be frustrating on some games. The DE experience on wayland is ok, everything is smooth and fast (Hyprland and Gnome), KDE still struggle to achieve that. Since i abandoned windows and games that not support linux, i'm planning to sell the RTX 3080 for a 7800XT/7900XTX .

[@hnasheralneam]

Never had any problems with nvidia graphics laptop under fedora, but then I never bothered to check if it was working. At least it didn't get in the way?

[@techno_steve24]

Hey, can you please try and make a video on nixos I would really appreciate it

[@dunk7073]

from what i hear its getting better on post-pascal cards, pascal and below is still rough...

[@MichaelNROH]

The efforts from NVIDIA focus on that yes, however the good thing is that once this part is out there, other's can make it compatible for older cards as well. It's also how a lot of things on MESA are handled.

[@cocopas80]

good video 2:35 where you got this wallpaper (and also, the others you have in yours video :p )

[@MichaelNROH]

It's mostly just random from google images or from the kde store in the past

[@cocopas80]

@@MichaelNROH ok thanks 👍

[@nathsabari97]

The real question is linux worth running on these cutting edge gpus from nvidia on home desktop pcs.

[@jedipadawan7023]

I do not use nVIDIA. For those that do, how do the Liquorix or Xanmod kernels hold up as drivers?

[@MrArrakis9]

The nvidia 555 drivers are good but the 560 drivers are were its at in terms of wayland support. Everything is butter smooth on 560 & no weird glitches like the white screen of death or the seizure inducing flicker of death. I feel like i have true premium linux support on my Lenovo Legion laptop now running Ubuntu 24.10

[@Durayne]

RTX 2080 on arch. Most of the time working great^^. Wayland is still a bit worse than X11 and sometimes got issues with specific configurations. Open Source drivers e.g. worked for some time (or still do?) not with llvm compiled kernels. Kernel has a bit of Panic Attack when he tries to load the driver ^^. But Wayland+gcc compiled kernel + X11. In that config usually no issue.

[@braindamage4853]

How did you get the transparent GNOME panel and background like in 2:42? On Ubuntu, mine is just dark.

[@MichaelNROH]

With the Blue my Shell extension

[@braindamage4853]

@@MichaelNROH Thank you :)

[@tytanium654]

I decided to dual boot Linux Mint after years of not being able to make the jump completely. I'm loving it so far, but I got a 1060 and a 4070ti on my PCs, so Wayland doesn't work for me.

[@bvd_vlvd]

So basically it works and I wouldn't regret buying one for the most part, even if I'm safer and better off with AMD for Nobara/GNOME/Wayland, right? I think I'll still opt for AMD when I buy the parts in, like, a year and hopefully I can try nvidia out for the computer after it

[@Giljrg]

Definitely improved but unfortunately the gap is still huge, in terms of latency, vibrancy, micro stutters, HDR, stability, overclocking, monitoring. It just guts me not to get the performance I paid for from my 4090. Hopefully one day.

[@brankojurisa6613]

Soooooooooo, can you install RTX4000 GPU on linux with full hardware support without tinkering or not?

[@Kamion008]

Novideo is definitely getting better on linux, and I have to say that, except for some obscure things (hyprland+Xwayland+Vsync causes tearing, unmodded minecraft crashes the pc when quitting the game and games cope does not work unless I run it with igpu) it works pretty well, and DEFINITELY better than intel, which completely sucks when gaming on linux (flickering all over the place and worse performance even in OGL) and the only thing that it's missing is Dlss Frame Generation support and more performance on vkd3d (but that's not an nv problem). Overall it's a good experience with my 7600x igpu and a 4070

[@LaSpookyPR]

Ima be honest I’ve never had a problem on nvidia on linux and I use vanilla arch is just a little extra work when you first build your os

[@dipi71]

Comparing my two rigs, one with Core-i5 and a 1050 GTX, the other just with an AMD 5700G APU - it's so much easier to compile the »amdgpu« driver into my custom kernels than it is to separately compile the stubs to external Nvidia blobs. No contest. (I started out with Intel i915, transisioned to Nvidia and arrived at amdgpu. Hoping to check out some ARM/Apple/RISC-V hardware some time in the future.) Cheers!

[@glennchugg6015]

I found that Linux also has a few issues left with all graphics cards, like you said Wayland addresses these, BUT it's can't even position a window to a pixel location (why? the screen has physical dimensions and it should be up to the User, not the designer to make the final decision). Anyway the biggest issue I have come across is the lack of proper scaling tech in x11, it's getting better, but still needs more. The other issue is nVidia only, it's unable to set screen modes if your desktop runs a HiDPI resolution - it just refuses to do more than crash the xserver. So Wayland may be the saviour, but until it has more basic functions and works in Virtual Machines properly (artefacts, bounding boxes etc), it's not usable as an end user. Sure using the bleeding edge Distro's, Kernels and Wayland will give better results, but we all have our distro of choice and can't just switch to a rolling release for the benefit of better graphics results.

[@benjaminneate7640]

I game with a rtx 4070 on Mint 22 and I haven’t really experienced any problems.

[@emanuelefusco4466]

nvidia was really bad in the past but now it CAN be a nice experience on linux. I've had both nvidia and amd on linux, people often focus too much on nvidia problems and forget about amd ones. Sure AMD is generally better on linux but it's not bug free and for some things nvidia is actually better. Some specific things like hardware encoding can need a lot of tinkering on AMD but just work out of the box with nvidia.

[@viamoiam]

I chose AMD for rasterization performance/per dollar, more VRAM, and painless drivers. Low or Medium ray tracing works on humble RX 6600m on games like Control and Cyberpunk for around 60fps without frame generation. ROCM with 25% more vRAM for larger models is nice for LLM. Note: Check for ROCM support as Cuda alternative not generally OpenCL anymore. Edit: Oh, I'm suprised DaVinci Resolve and other common stuff offers OpenCL

[@Staravora]

If I would have foreseen Microsoft going full dystopian with Recall at the beginning of the year which instigated my migration to Linux, I would have gotten an AMD laptop. However, it's been mostly fine with Nvidia, it's just I am more or less bound to distros that have X11 because gaming on Wayland is a 5 fps slideshow. Then there's this weird bug I've encountered on pretty much every distro I've tried where the screen will randomly go black, but seeing as how I've not seen anyone else complain about it, I assume it's my own hardware. Other than that, it's been fine

[@MegaManNeo]

Have been using GeForce cards for the longest time with Windows and Linux. Had a 1070FTW which I sold to a buddy of mine, still have a 1050Ti and a 970. My machine runs AMD Graphics for years however and honestly, I wouldn't go back until the driver situation is the same as with AMD or Intel. Sure, on Ubuntu and Mint GeForce Graphics work fine but stock Debian gave me nightmares and openSUSE these days probably would as well.

[@TechWorldDeb]

In recent days nvidia performs really good in Linux including Wayland. They may be willing to improve their image after Torvalds comment on nvidia !

[@atemoc]

NixOS user here with a GTX 1660S under Hyprland (stable system, unstable packages for the driver, kernel, and Hyprland). Everything works, but I can't figure out for the life of me how to get GPU-accelerated video actually working in my web browsers. (LibreWolf, Firefox, Ungoogled chromium with custom patches)

[@agoniavr]

I know it’s a delusional thought, but imagine where technology would be now if companies shared the code for everything openly, so everyone could contribute or build upon it, instead of keeping feature X or Y away from their competitors which will need to waste time and resources to reach the same goal, instead of having everyone contribute to reach a bigger one faster

[@MichaelNROH]

Ideally this would be case, but these companies wouldn't employ many software developers then unfortunately. Especially if sales decrease as well when you can use any vendor. It's doable in the long term but publicly traded companies probably won't since the shareholders want to see money 🫤

[@agoniavr]

@@MichaelNROH sadly I know how that game works, and I hate it because as soon as a company goes public and starts selling stocks their product, all of a sudden, becomes a secondary concern, the main one becoming making money at all costs and at some point this will ruin the product, the company, it will lead to layoffs etcetera. The current state of the IT and video game industries, with thousands of people being laid off while the CEOs barely change their salary, is a clear demonstration of the fact that it's not sustainable...but I fear we'll never learn the lesson and continue doing things like this.

[@angelbepro6767]

My biggest problem has only been wayland with nvidia. Some things are better implemented on wayland with the DE I use (KDE Plasma) but in games I'm getting 50% less fps. And recently for some reason after some time I would experience frame spikes every quarter of a second (kind of random not sure if I still have this issue). So for now I am stuck with x11, as my fps is way better, and I don't have problems with refresh rate for games being the second screen refresh rate (basically my main monitor which is 144hz is treated as the second one and my second one is 60hz so most apps max the fps to 60hz)

[@TetrisBen]

You can currently use either HDR or nvidia-settings, but not both. It's maddening.

[@MichaelNROH]

I've read that increased focus on HDR on Linux is in fact on NVIDIAs planned feature list in the near future. My guess is, that they'll wait until more Desktop Environments besides KDE Plasma handle it better.

[@ir8293]

Tried the Wayland with NVIDIA and it’s still not as smooth as Xorg. Hope it will get better over time.

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

I never had any issues with my gtx1060ti

[@Art-of-War-y6g]

Has anyone recently experienced issues with GPU acceleration (especially Nvidia) in flatpak versions, where applications fail to start until GPU acceleration is disabled in Flatseal?

[@MichaelNROH]

I unfortunately don't know how Flatpaks or even your distribution itself ships the driver. For example, in order to use CUDA you probably need the dependencies on both your host machine, and within flatpak. A distro like Fedora ships CUDA seperately and if the flatpak driver expects a "hook" it can use and it's not there it might result in some unexpected behaviours

[@Art-of-War-y6g]

@@MichaelNROH Sorry Micheal, I had to be more specific at least when it comes to the distro. I use Fedora and found other Nvidia users who are experiencing the same issue with GPU acceleration in Flathub flatpaks. When GPU acceleration is disabled in Flatseal, the apps start. The issue is present in both new RTX and older GTX graphic cards, so I took the chance, when I saw your Nvidia video, to ask around if others have similar issues.

[@emanuelvitorio3716]

im with a gtx 1050 2gb and using fedora gnome. i cant play the bloodstrike on lutris because the wine gecko and mono are just not installing. im sad because this not work any step

[@archgirl]

I used exclusively Nvidia cards with Xfce (X11 of course) on Arch for over five years. Zero issues that I could attribute to Nvidia cards or drivers themselves at the time. Switched back to AMD last year, and while for the most part it’s been about the same experience, I’m now on Wayland with Hyprland, and I can’t say I would’ve had as smooth a transition to Hyprland as I would’ve if I’d stayed with Nvidia. Plus, little issues I hadn’t attributed to Nvidia suddenly vanished. Were they Nvidia issues? I can’t even say for sure since Nvidia to AMD hasn’t been the only change. But I have my suspicions. In the past, I preferred going Nvidia because I had such a terrible time with AMD cards and the Catalyst drivers for Linux. Left a bad taste in my mouth for a number of years, so I camped on Nvidia for a good while. With mesa in the state it is today, AMD is where I’ll be remaining for the foreseeable.

[@hassansyed5661]

AMD is good in the case of Linux because of the open source GPU models

[@MichaelNROH]

Yes

[@Ruboka]

what features are windows exclusive for amd or nvidia? I can not figure this out. Is it everything for nvidia(eg noise cancelling,dlss) and everything besides fsr(what version?) for amd(eg chill?)? Sth like shadowplay or amds version of it etc. And did nvidia add things in the recent releases for linux ?

[@skorne7682]

I don't know for amd but only framegen on 4000 series is missing for nvidia, I say is although I think it may have just been added in the latest Proton GE version. Hdr support on linux is limited at best though.

[@MichaelNROH]

The Radeon software and NVIDIA control panel (or Geforce Experience) for example. They offer a lot of of additional functionalities like screen recording, setting different driver settings on a game to game basic and so on. The rest is mostly if a feature is available at launch and if the translation layer can handle it. DLSS for example wasn't available for a long time because it caused some issues with some configuration

[@powerdude_dk]

Nvidia works just fine on Linux, as long as you use the proprietary driver, and that's maybe why some people say it doesn't work. Because they insist on using the open source one. That's fair and all, but Nvidia on Linux generally works well. Also work gaming. The only thing I hated was (because I'm on AMD now), that you had to be really careful with upgrading your graphics driver. Which is super dumb. Many times, you just end up having to rollback the driver, from terminal, because your desktop won't load.

[@cubeskywalker4953]

I use a GTX 1660 Super. On Linux Mint 21.3 (using the newer 6.8 kernel) I have no real issues outside of stuttering in more GPU demanding games. I have tried using Nobara linux and have found that the stuttering is a little less of an issue, but not enough for me to make a jump to a different distro just yet. Nvidia on linux isn't perfect, but it's good enough for me.

[@jaimerojas6578]

I've been using Ubuntu for about a week, had some issues with graphics I run a (RTX 3060), I have 2 monitors one a 75hz and the other at 60hz and it has been a hustle to make the 75hz actually have that refresh rate, and I'm getting some issues with screen tearing in games, it has not been the best experience really, It makes me wish I just had an AMD GPU right now it sounds like things would be much better.

[@mirkodiciano4647]

Michael great video, im new to linux what distro do you use primarily im just wondering

[@MichaelNROH]

Fedora

[@othernicksweretaken]

I too have been using Fedora for many years on my private computers, as well as Rocky recently for pure home server stuff. But I never was a gamer and thus never have bothered about CGI rendering and graphics cards. So for my humble graphics demand the onboard graphics chip's performance fully suffices. I wonder if out of curiosity I should give Nobara a try, but then I lack the hardware which would do Nobara justice I think.

[@diamondcreative1115]

i use cachy os btw

[@NyanCoder]

My HTC Vive 1 breaks XWayland, and it won't run even after I remove the headset until I reboot pc, so, no VR in Wayland with nVidia P.S. Can't say if it's because my headset, gpu or some software, it works fine in i3wm session and I don't have other gpu/headset

[@johnsmith9205]

I was trying to use GTX 780 Ti with Debian 12, but lots of games would perform very poorly due to lacking features in the GPU, some tools wouldn't work, etc. I ended up breaking the 3D acceleration completely on an update, and I gave up and got an RX 6600. No issues ever since, so I'm sticking to AMD for Linux, at least for now. Of course, this is an unfair comparison, because the NVidia card was old and didn't support the latest and greatest Vulkan etc, which seems to be very important for Proton. But I don't have spare cash to experiment any further, like I used to 10 years ago when I bought the GTX 780 Ti.

[@adnanalam6201]

Here on windows, I've screen tearing 😂, but didn't have on linux

[@xgui4-studios]

How can block windows from auto updating the bios and the bootloader on a dualboot system ? Cause i still have a windows partitions for school if i need even thought i have windows laptop specially for gaking and computer science (school) related puprose

[@MichaelNROH]

I think you just need to deactivate 3rd party downloads in the Windows settings

[@ToNielson]

yes and no

[@MichaelNROH]

Sums it up pretty well

[@Hypergraph]

Question: i have a spare pc, it's really old with AMD Phenom x4 cpu, with an really old basic Nvidia card. would it run a linux OS?

[@Gramini]

I also have an old PC from around 2012 with an AMD Phenom (not sure which exactly) and an nVidia GT 530. It works fine, but the hardware is really old, so it struggles with many games and videos above FHD.

[@MichaelNROH]

Probably better than a halfway modern Windows version, but at this point you can't really use it much for anyway. Anything with a GUI, even with just a web browser is quite demanding nowadays

[@onegabriel5823]

Most of Nvidia's open-source efforts only apply to Turing or newer architectures.

[@1234enzor]

Nvidia drivers are better on Linux atm then windows.

[@tablettablete186]

Can you explain?

[@MichaelNROH]

I don't think that's true at all. Not in the consumer market

[@BamsyTheSergal]

i have a 2070 on bazzite and i've been still having a couple of issues, unsure if its me, nvidia, or the distro.

[@MichaelNROH]

It's probably a mixture of both. Bazzite is a heavily modified distro and mainly built for AMD with all the Gamescope stuff

[@static2601]

Just upgraded to the 4070 super and works great on windows for gaming, the same games don't have the dlss option and everything else makes frame rates too horrible to play with, so a negative experience so far.

[@rsher_digital-art]

Important topic foe us Blender( an any 3D app) users wanting to migrate from Windows to Linux. Yes NVDA is the only choice for 3D design and rendering as fare as it appears and from everyone I have contacted about this issue.. I would appreciate an in-depth video to help chose the best distro. For now POP OS look good . POP bundles the NVDA drives with their install. I'm new to Linux so any info would be great. Thank you for you presentation!

[@diamondcreative1115]

cachy os also good

[@rsher_digital-art]

@@diamondcreative1115 thank you, I'll check out cachy.