Jesus has saved me from suicide multiple times I owe my life to him every day 24/7
@Sonny-xx9us4 жыл бұрын
Glad he saved you Eva.
@enigmagroup4134 жыл бұрын
Having died more than once and speaking much first hand experience to how Heaven, the Earth, and other realms are setup, I can tell you suicide is no escape from anything and actually makes it far worse on you! Something to never forget. If you die on Earth most ways you usually end up places other than the Earth but in the case of suicide, you end up perfectly alive on Earth like nothing happened other than perhaps notice some small changes to what you know as Earth may be slightly different. You end up on a parallel Earth which is usually nearly identical with the same or n perhaps even worse troubles for you and though you wer successful killing yourself where you were originally, you begin to doubt that because all indications in the alternate Earth is a different course of events where that was not the case at all and in this loop you forever stay alive seemingly stuck on Earth. A situation actually worse than concepts of hell for most people.
@Sonny-xx9us4 жыл бұрын
@@enigmagroup413 You are one lost soul. No such thing what you are posting, 2Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 2Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. Saved people will be where ever Jesus is, which is at the right hand of the Father.
@grannywoods124 жыл бұрын
Me too. Got saved when I was 23. I know that I know that I know if I hadn't got saved when I did, I wouldn't be here. Be dead and in hell. I would had killed myself. So, when I tell people He saved me and He GAVE me life, I say, "Literally!!". 😊
@jalonibutts38994 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏🏾
@dank24763 жыл бұрын
You know you are truly saved when you are highly conscious of every sins committed and will always struggle against it.
@JimiSurvivor2 жыл бұрын
And never overcome? That is a dismal forecast
@j-life85022 жыл бұрын
That's not biblical. And how do you know when your " highly conscious 🤔 😳 enough??? You can't possibly know all your sins and how do you know your sorry enough LONG enough!! What is you struggle for years then let your guard down on a random tues and get hit by a bus. Oops I know I let my son literally die for you but yeah you unfortunately died while having an impure thought... This What your describing is ANOTHER GOSPEL. The real Godpel is Jesus + nothing ( not how sorry or conscious your are). Or how much you struggle. 😀 My yoke is easy my burden is light Jesus said that. 🙏 hope you get free from legalism, its worse than you understand. Godbless
@JimiSurvivor2 жыл бұрын
@@j-life8502 You are approaching this with the mindset of a Pharisee or some other kind of legalistic perfectionist who believes they must work it all out on their own maintaining constant awareness about whether they were re "conscious" enough or "sorry enough" to keep walking with God. If we do not a random collision with a Mack truck may well send us to hell. This is not what traditional believers in free will think. It is just a straw man constructed by believers in antinomianism. When you make a straw man argument, you’re essentially arguing against an IMAGINARY scarecrow. It’s an easy way to make your argument sound infallible-and that’s what makes it a LOGICAL FALLACY. Regarding Matthew 11:28: Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Did Christ say look at my yoke, study and admire it in the abstract? No, He said Take my YOKE UPON you. An ox does not wear a yoke as a decoration. The yoke UNITES Master and Animal together in the common purpose of doing the master's WILL. It is WORK but since the Holy Spirit helps us do it the work is not laborious but LIGHT and brings rest not like the yoke of the Law which Peter said neither he nor his fathers could bear.
@BibleBasicsForSalvation Жыл бұрын
When we are saved by faith, we are saved from the debt of our former sins. All of them. SO THAT we can go forward practicing righteousness without an unpaid debt hanging over us.
@BibleBasicsForSalvation Жыл бұрын
But being saved from our former sins isn’t the same thing as receiving eternal life in heaven. That comes thru obedience AFTER that debt is paid. Once we’ve established our obedience to God, we are chosen by God to be given to Christ. Those given to Christ in that manner remain with him. Many are called, few are chosen.
@entertainment2015 жыл бұрын
When we are saved, we still sin, there are sins we do that we don’t know we do. Thank you LORD for saving us with your blood.
@kirenjitjaura33715 жыл бұрын
Yes, Amen. Praise God! Praise Jesus!
@maggiestroud63445 жыл бұрын
Nick Shim2018 amen!!!!!! There is two kinds of sinners 1. An unsaved sinner 2. A saved sinner. Jesus doesn’t die over and over and over and over for every sin committed, he died one time for all sins IF we believe in his shed blood that died for our sins we have eternal salvation.
@Sonny-xx9us5 жыл бұрын
Really good post Nick.
@bobbyadkins69835 жыл бұрын
But that's not the same thing as one deliberately walking away from God making a willful decision to no longer serve God.
@Sonny-xx9us5 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyadkins6983 How can you just walk away from God when he lives in you? Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 1Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 1Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. John 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. John 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. John 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. John 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. John 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. Will not the Good Shepherd leave the 99 to find the lost? if you are saved , you cannot just change your mind & leave.
@mercermitchelljr55785 жыл бұрын
If you could lose your salvation, YOU WOULD lose your salvation! None of us are strong enough to keep something so precious. (Ephesians 1:13)
@ShadowCatGambit5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!
@mercermitchelljr55785 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@ea-tr1jh5 жыл бұрын
@Rardd5 Yes...
@DejahJMusic5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@DejahJMusic5 жыл бұрын
Terrance Tisdale “and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might” Ephesians 1:19 I think it was meant as a closing statement. Like we can’t kept salvation on our own and thank God for it bc it’s His great power at work in us who He saves. At least that was how I interpreted it
@jennamontgomery50007 жыл бұрын
In my personal walk with christ, there have been times I have backslid, however, just in those backsliding time when my fleshly spirit did the things that didnt agree and life started to take a turn for the worse, God never gave up on me he sent laborers on the way and put me in circumstances where i had no choice but to turn back to him. Granted it is a growing process because my backsliding was a result of getting sucked in by the lies of the enemy and i fell farther into sin but i didnt originally intend to sin. Each time when he restores me and pulls me back i grow in knowledge of him. To me it reminds me of when God starts a work in you hes gonna finish it. God bless
@jennamontgomery50007 жыл бұрын
Jon Singleton i think possibly i said it wrong i always have asked God back into my life and repented and rededicated my life at those times but I dont think God gives up on his people. However people give up on him and what he says.
@shawn39686 жыл бұрын
Jon Singleton I have followed much of your thread and it appears that you are striving hard to debate with others to prove them wrong because you believe you have it all down, drawn out and put together. Brother, if you want to talk about something Biblical your talking it, it’s that biblical term Pride. To assume your position is dangerous and you should confess this area of your life to Jesus Christ and allow Him to rid you from this. Even this young woman who gave a testimony of how she walked away from God and was like the prodigal daughter and God pursued her in her backslidden state is the Agape love of God Almighty. I to walked away for sometime, but God never gave up on me. I came back praise God, because He didn’t want me to stay in that backslidden state. God is merciful to us all, and none of us are even worthy enough to deserve this gift of salvation that he offers freely to us. Some of the greatest apostasy that’s running rampant in the church today are self righteous people preaching a message that they themselves aren’t even able to live or abide by. They walk in arrogance and great pride like they have arrived. The fact is, none of us have truly arrived. We are always being changed and transformed to be more like Him. We must be teachable because the moment we stop, Pride takes the lead.
@lilwarriorlilwarrior9216 жыл бұрын
Jenna Montgomery i can relate on the back sliding.
@gitttnight35366 жыл бұрын
Jenna Montgomery Amen.
@chaboi76 жыл бұрын
Jenna Montgomery when you sin it is always because you intended to do it or it wouldnt be a sin, it would be ignorance
@GerardAndRoseVlogs2 жыл бұрын
Once saved by Christ, always saved by Christ! All glory to Him!
@gregorylatta81592 жыл бұрын
Basic doctrine that an alarming number of Christians cannot accept. Let us pray they are saved but just don't know it.
@Emmanuel-ti6ym2 жыл бұрын
We can Keep Sinning and walking with Satan and STILL remain in the Garden of Eden! Yaay! Satan Loves this doctrine.
@gregorylatta81592 жыл бұрын
@@Emmanuel-ti6ym Do you still sin and thereby walk with Satan? If we say we have no sin the truth is not in us. So unless you stop ALL sin you will be thrown in the lake of fire 🔥. Unless you repent and accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.
@Emmanuel-ti6ym2 жыл бұрын
@@gregorylatta8159 Heb 10:26 Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is NO LONGER any sacrifice that will cover these sins. The blood of Jesus will cover unintentional sins as well as intentional sins that are confessed. 1 Peter 2:16 For you are free, yet you are God’s slaves, so don’t use your FREEDOM as an excuse to do evil. Luke 9:62 But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then LOOKS BACK is not fit for the Kingdom of God. Lot and his family were saved, Lot's wife looked back, she forfeited her salvation. The Purpose of this Doctrine is to Remove the FEAR of God from among the saints. Luke 1:50 He shows mercy from generation to generation to all who fear him. Fear is much more than just reverence or respect but trembling fear. Matt 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather FEAR HIM (BE AFRAID) who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Phil 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed-not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence-continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Remember this doctrine is intended to keep the Saints on Easy Street, Luke Warm and without FEAR of the Most High. Matt 7:14 Because narrow is the gate and DIFFICULT IS THE WAY which leads to life, and there are FEW WHO FIND IT. Peace and Love, brother.
@gregorylatta81592 жыл бұрын
@@Emmanuel-ti6ym Can't disagree with scripture. Read Romans 7 14-25 written to us Gentiles for this dispensation.
@jessepotter3653 жыл бұрын
I came to the LORD at a young age. I still had a rebellious falling away in my late teens and twenties. Looking back, God's grace was with me every step of the way. He didn't like the sin in my life, but He never gave up on me. I still sin even now, but God's presence is with me every day. He will never leave us and He will never forsake us.
@jhamilton10073 жыл бұрын
Amen
@joebolling3 жыл бұрын
“I still sin even now” ... it depends on what sin you’re referring to. There are sins that lead to death. If you’re indulging in some form of lust, porn, hatred, stealing, or otherwise carrying God’s name while breaking his commandments, his promise is that you won’t be found guiltless. You must repent of (permanently turn away from, stop doing) those things. Hopefully you just mean you’re grumpy before your first cup of coffee in the morning or something, but if you’re breaking God’s commandments you need to stop right now.
@jessepotter3653 жыл бұрын
@@joebolling If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8
@joebolling3 жыл бұрын
@@jessepotter365 there’s a vast difference in being without sin, or even never ever sinning once in our entire lives, verses not being perfect but also not continuing on in sin that is in direct contrast to God’s commandments. Which is it for you?
@joebolling3 жыл бұрын
@@jessepotter365 you’re not suggesting a Christian is allowed to break God’s 10 commandments and still call themselves by His name ... are you? Third commandment says if we carry God’s game in vain we will NOT be found guiltless! To be found guiltless, we must obey God’s commandments and hold fast to our testimony about Christ, that his blood atoned for our past sins.
@earnestlycontending8855 жыл бұрын
Most deceiving thing ever is to think you’re saved when you’re not... May God open eyes and sanctify many through his truth, in Jesus name
@CrusaderforChrist-Channel5 жыл бұрын
Rashadijn2 - Amen 👏🏽
@raygabrelcik25785 жыл бұрын
Romans 10: 9, and 10: "When you CONFESS with your mouth, and BELIEVE in your HEART..." You are considered a PART of God's Kingdom--LEGALLY! BUT, we must "Continue" in His word...John 8:31. But EXPERIENTALLY, we STILL must "grow," and "Mature," in the "Spirit." Eph. 4:13. Even Jesus--according to scripture--had to "wax strong (grow) in Spirit." So, WHEN are we "Saved," you ask? The very micro-second we say, and BELIEVE that prayer. From THERE, like scripture SAYS--we must..."CONTINUE." God bless you.
@tsunadesenju58565 жыл бұрын
@@raygabrelcik2578 once saved always saved. after a 30 second saving decision, you now have a license to sin to your heart's content cuz hey, you're already saved forever right? riiiiight
@raygabrelcik25785 жыл бұрын
Romans 10: 9,10.
@valeriewatsonz1975 жыл бұрын
Once saved always saved will causes many to be totally lost . To each his own . I will never believe once saved always saved .
@jacobjackson70134 жыл бұрын
When you’re truly saved, you won’t wanna go back. God bless 🙏✌️
@lisahoffer13654 жыл бұрын
AMEN PRAISE OUR AWESOME ALMIGHTY GOD !!!
@patriciaulbricht36434 жыл бұрын
James 2:24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHvSYoKQmLGnoqM Best bible passages to refute once saved always saved.
@vadamsable4 жыл бұрын
Amen, some people slip though.
@miketaylor94554 жыл бұрын
@@patriciaulbricht3643 That’s a lie from hell... “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.” Romans 11:6 KJV
@patriciaulbricht36434 жыл бұрын
@@miketaylor9455 this verse is about the Initial Grace when you are First saved through baptism (which is very clearly stated in the bible, baptism is no work) that you are can not deserve. That is right. But there are many warning verses which respond to the saved christians to keep their ways holy. They could have fallen from Grace when they commit Grave sin. Confession to a priest where ordained by Jesus for the restoration of Grace. Amen
@barrygaynor10252 жыл бұрын
Jesus said:"Not everyone who calls me Lord shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the will of my father in Heaven".
@stevendrumm49572 жыл бұрын
Continue reading the verse. Later in it he tells the accursed "I NEVER knew you". He NEVER knew them. They didn't lose their salvation. They were never saved to begin with.
@KeeperOfThe102 жыл бұрын
@Barry Gaynor, yes. People consider themselves saved and don't do his will. Thus salvation is conditional.
@VictoriaTheBookworm2 жыл бұрын
@@KeeperOfThe10 no he was speaking of the Pharisees. People who never accepted Christ but use his name for “image”. What you just said is blasphemy
@voyager142 жыл бұрын
John 6:40 end of discussion
@trewic86782 жыл бұрын
@@KeeperOfThe10 the only condition that salvation is based on is whether or not someone truly believes. the point of that verse is that there will be people that claim to believe in Jesus but don’t in their hearts. not that ppl have to do good works
@grndpabryan5 жыл бұрын
God has turned me back to himself many times, he never gives up working on me. God bless you for ALL of your videos!
@uniqoEnEsp5 жыл бұрын
Amen, we seek and we find. We turn away and he reprimands us!!!
@raygsbrelcik55784 жыл бұрын
And you responded. Some fail to DO so.
@herbshattuck62694 жыл бұрын
Aren't you tired of throwing verses back and forth like a proverbial food fight? Each team embracing their own set of what they say the verses mean? What does the true gospel entail? Is it a once and for all declaration, or a race to be run with all of our heart, soul and strength? The false gospel being preached today is rooted in three fundamental errors: 1) Justification is a one time irrevocable declaration, guaranteeing salvation; 2) Grace is the free gift of salvation where there can be no expectations attached. 3) And salvation is apart from any and all works. These are the errors of Martin Luther which have been adopted by virtually every evangelical church today. This series explains the theological roots of this error and presents the Biblical gospel. If you are so inclined, here it is: kzbin.info/aero/PLncffI965_jjUgPwFQEx4xMMx2lfLaRza
@monroegivens69144 жыл бұрын
You sound catholic keep sinning do a hail Mary and all is forgiven
@grndpabryan4 жыл бұрын
@@monroegivens6914 the first three letters of assume are? No I'm not a catholic, nor is this man, he is speaking truth from the Christian Bible. Confess sins, repent, and accept forgiveness, from Jesus Christ, not Mary! We have to keep confessing, and repenting, but because we can never quit sinning, Jesus gains us forgiveness, by his blood, if we believe and follow him.
@BIGYOUU4 жыл бұрын
I want a BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS🥰😇😥🙋🏾♂️
@michellecheriekjv41154 жыл бұрын
Do need help? I can show you the Biblical steps...One thing you can do immediately is to Start reading the Gospel of John...right after Luke...It shows us that Jesus is God...in the 2nd person of the Trinity...stepped down from his Eternal Throne in Heaven...to take on a flesh body...and being the Perfect "unblemished" sacrifice...died for our sins...suffering on the cross and being buried...rose on the 3rd day...was seen by Peter...then the 12...then over 500 Brethren at once. Jesus is the only way...are you on Instagram...@michelle.cherie.kjv come talk if you want help...🙏💕💕💕
@gokarinbahayku95724 жыл бұрын
@@michellecheriekjv4115 process of elimination: which of these 2 is from false teachers : 1. FAITH + WORKS = CONDITIONAL SECURITY (SALVATION CAN BE LOST) 2. FAITH ALONE + NO NEED GOOD WORKS = ETERNAL SECURITY (ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED) NOW in heaven, what is Jesus' state of being ... 1. flesh and bones, not flesh and blood 2. flesh and blood 3. not flesh and bones, a spirit
@Jesusbride5154 жыл бұрын
““Write this letter to the angel of the church in Ephesus. This is the message from the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand, the one who walks among the seven gold lampstands: “I know all the things you do. I have seen your hard work and your patient endurance. I know you don’t tolerate evil people. You have examined the claims of those who say they are apostles but are not. You have discovered they are liars. You have patiently suffered for me without quitting. “But I have this complaint against you. You don’t love me or each other as you did at first! Look how far you have fallen! Turn back to me and do the works you did at first. If you don’t repent, I will come and remove your lampstand from its place among the churches. But this is in your favor: You hate the evil deeds of the Nicolaitans, just as I do. “Anyone with ears to hear must listen to the Spirit and understand what he is saying to the churches. To everyone who is victorious I will give fruit from the tree of life in the paradise of God.” Revelation 2:1-7 NLT www.bible.com/116/rev.2.1-7.nlt
@michaihricketts66274 жыл бұрын
Me too
@ElectriciteT14 жыл бұрын
@@Jesusbride515 OSAS IS VERY EVIL DOCTORINE. NEVER I COULD IMAGINE THAT SATAN WILL USE THAT FALSE TEACHING BECAUSE ONLY A FOOL SAY OSAS WITHOUT TAKING ACCOUNT OTHER SIDE LOSING SALVATION
@TheGreatEscapeTravels5 жыл бұрын
Whether you lose your salvation or not, I think it’s wise to live everyday as if your holding onto salvation for dear life! And God knows that I fail everyday, but he also knows I’m trying. God bless everyone!
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
Michael M. Are you trusting in yourself or in Christ. We’re not our own savior. Christ is. We’re going to sin no matter how hard we try not to but Christ is our advocate
@TheGreatEscapeTravels4 жыл бұрын
I said "as if you're holding on to salvation for dear life." That's called having the fear of the Lord, which is wise. I didn't say I myself could hold on to Salvation. (As if)
@Gary8284 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatEscapeTravels i hear you, but i don't think we're supposed to "fear" the Lord as fear is the opposite of faith, and our faith in Christ is what saves us. When the bible says the "fear" of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom it is referring to reverence of the Lord, and when you meditate on that concept it makes more sense, as we are in awe of His creation and His ways, and that kind of fear (reverence) actually brings us closer to God and gaining understanding, where as scared fear is more of a forced obedience, in which God doesn't want; He wants us to want to obey, and to walk in faith. Hope that helps.
@patriciaulbricht36434 жыл бұрын
James 2:24 : You see that a person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHvSYoKQmLGnoqM Best bible passages to refute once saved always saved.
@bornagainsaint69234 жыл бұрын
@@patriciaulbricht3643 , Salvation is by God's grace and mercy through Faith. EPHESIANS 2.4-10. So because you have true faith you will produce good works ( fruits) but those good works don't save you, ONLY WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID ON THE CROSS SAVES YOU. ( His grace and mercy). Fake and false faith doesn't produce good works, thus you haven't truly repented and believed in Jesus Christ and His Gospel of salvation. Don't misinterpret JAMES 2 with the Whole of Scripture. James 2 and EPHESIANS 2.4-10 go hand in hand, Scripture interpreting Scripture. Peace.
@teresajennings12433 жыл бұрын
Such an important topic, thank you brother Parr. I gave my life to the Lord at age 15 at a David Wilkerson crusade back in 1971. Since then, I have had times when I allowed myself to be distracted by the things of the world, gone away from the truths of the Word. Behaved in ways I am truly ashamed of. But He has never taken His hand off me, and His grace has allowed me to eventually see that I am His and want nothing more than Him in my life. I am 67 now, and am so thankful He has never stopped loving me. I am His and He is mine. Forever. 🙏
@vivaeuropa2 жыл бұрын
Bro David Wilkerson was against once saved always saved. Jesus bluntly said he'll remove anyone's name from the book of life in Revelation 22:18-19 and we know from the Daniel 12:1, Philippians 4:3 that only people with salvation names are found in the book of life so if they were removed from it that means we can indefinitely lose our salvation. Not to mention verses like in the end times they'll DEPART from the faith which you can only depart if you were once walking in true faith. As well as go about your salvation with fear and trembling why would Jesus say that if it was impossible to lose. Anyways Jesus bluntly saying he'll removed a saved person name from the book of life is the end all of this topic.
@jeffouellette99462 жыл бұрын
@@vivaeuropayeah there was never a once saved. It's a doctrines of demons. Because people will feel like that they can do sinful things and they will allow demons into their life and they will be a slave to sin. Just like the scripture talking about not going back to your former self. Shipwreck a dog going back to its vomit. Stumble in Strong's concordance is loss of salvation in 1st Peter.
@pastorbobbythomas1141 Жыл бұрын
Thank God for his mercy and grace. You made it back from a backslidden position. Thank God you did not fall into one of the life taking traps of Satan. You would have been lost. He knows the thoughts and intents of the heart.
@Janpandon Жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord. He will never let you go. Continue to surrender to him, he loves you dearly but he will never take away your free will which is also a demonstration of his love.
@CAsnowman Жыл бұрын
@@jeffouellette9946 I’d be careful calling it doctrine of demons and assuming OSAS just makes people feel like they’re ok to compromise in sin, the Holy Spirit will let you know and convict you. I am genuinely curious though if you can lose salvation what is the line you can’t cross? The parable of the prodigal son is a great parable that shows that even if we turn away for a time he is always there to welcome us back into fellowship with him with open arms. It’s not like if you start falling back into your old sinful habits and attitudes for a time, that Gods grace and mercy doesn’t still cover you. He will chastise and discipline his children when they’re in disobedience but that’s evidence that we are truly his children, I think that’s what happens when “a dog goes back to its vomit” you get chastised but you don’t lose salvation if you genuinely have saving faith in Jesus Christ. His blood paid for past present and future sins in the eternal sense but he does not excuse us from the consequence of sin in this life when we slip up (which we will). I just don’t think it lines up with scripture that you can lose salvation even with the common anti OSAS verses people try to use like Hebrews 6:6. We need to rightly divide the word of truth and interpret the more difficult passages in context carefully and in light of the other plain truths about salvation that are in the Bible, after all the Bible has no contradictions but with the common interpretation of Hebrews 6:6 it would appear to contradict the prodigal son parable. I’m open to admitting if I am wrong and want to seek the genuine truth of God but I do truly believe OSAS after praying for the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth on this contentious topic and I feel like he has led me towards OSAS every time I go to prayer about it. God bless my brother in Christ I know this was an old comment but I’d love to see your response if you do see this! 🙏
@maryr1305 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here..reading all of the comments. Some I've even made myself. And I'm thinking, I'm not judging....just pondering. Malachi 3:16 "Then those who feared the LORD talked with each other, and the LORD listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the LORD and honored his name.".................The Lord is listening to all of us right now. We should be glorifying Him and edifying each other. As far a OSAS....please do not neglect such a beautiful gift He died to give us. We do have an enemy who is out to steal our gift. He is the master deceiver. 1 Corinthians 10:12 " Therefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." Stay in the Word..keep close to the Lord and do everything He tells you to do. Time is coming to a close.
@TheHelenhunter5 жыл бұрын
Love this ❤️❤️
@lonesomecricket77215 жыл бұрын
Wonderful words 🎚🙌🏻. Abide in the vine Christ Jesus. I know just how weak and powerless I am. And my strength is Only in the Lord. I am a sheep But Mighty is the LORD my Shepherd 🎚🙌🏻🙏
@jamesolivito43745 жыл бұрын
Amen that is beautiful !
@jeffouellette99465 жыл бұрын
Jesus died for past sins ONLY. Romans 3:25.
@jamesolivito43745 жыл бұрын
@@jeffouellette9946 then whom will atone for your sins ?
@SeekTheTruth2054 жыл бұрын
To some Christ will say I NEVER KNEW YOU. he isn't going to say I ONCE KNEW YOU BUT NOW I DONT
@JESUSCHRIST-db1yh4 жыл бұрын
Timothy Wayne correct!!
@roberteaston64134 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but it sure is hard to figure out people such as Charles Templeton or Joshua Harris.
@xepiloguex4 жыл бұрын
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Now I could be wrong but to me the people that were able to cast out devils and stuff like that had to be close to God, living for God , and most likely saved. I don't believe that God is going to give that kind of power to just anybody.
@TheGravityShifter4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Those are the ones who were never saved in the first place. The best example of such a person is Judas. Who was given the power to perform miracles. But he was never saved. Not to mention John writes that those who turn from the faith, never had it to begin with. If they were one of us, they'd stay with us, but since they aren't one of us, turned away. Not word for word but that's basically what he wrote. This is irrefutable proof that you can't lose salvation. If you "lose it", that means you never had it.
@celinamilian4 жыл бұрын
@@xepiloguex You just contradicted in that statement. It all means God is sovereign to give power to whomever He sees fit and that is amazing. Some shall ask and be given. And somewhere there is a story of disciples of some sort (70 something) who where sent somewhere to cast demons out and when they came back feeling all pumped up and pampered by the HS, the Lord said chill out buddies don't let this stuff get to your head. We have to remember we are in a longeated Spiritual warfare as opposed to being saved by daily battles as such. On another thing the fact you are uncertain is good but try not to go by your beliefs, this is the kind of thing you pray for for deeper understanding and He shall reveal. Hesitate not, to ask about anything. Because our self belief will lead to denying the Power of God and live in the faulty essence of intellectualism.
@apostlepaul80174 жыл бұрын
I use to do meth and I was addicted to alcohol and I almost died in my sins, I seen different kinds demons with my own eyes scared me to death and I knew in my spirit I was heading for hell for sure I cried out to God like Jonah and he had Mercy on me, I wouldn't want to test this once saved always saved thing to the end.... If I had not cried out to the Lord im convinced I would be in a place to horrible to imagine.. Whoever digs a pit will fall into it Proverbs 25:27
@lynette44124 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
Apostle Paul Preach Apostle Paul. God bless brother🙏🏾
@visit_vaticancatholic_dot_com4 жыл бұрын
Visit vaticancatholic.com for crucial information on how to become a true Christian. It’s necessary for eternal salvation to become a traditional Catholic, since only traditional Catholicism is authentic Christianity. Also, they have a KZbin channel of the same name, so be sure to check it out as well.
@labae87284 жыл бұрын
@@visit_vaticancatholic_dot_com Did you just really comment on a BIBLE BASED VIDEO to go follow this cult you are promoting????? NO. It is nowhere near authentic Christianity. Catholicism is a cult and works-salvation based and they want you pray to saints which is NOT BIBLICAL when you can pray to Jesus yourself. Please don't promote that heresy and open your eyes! REPENT OF YOUR SINS JESUS IS COMING.
@visit_vaticancatholic_dot_com4 жыл бұрын
@@labae8728 Your anti-Catholic sentiments are quite wrong and you need to get your facts right. If you really believe in praying to Jesus for yourself (in the way you seem to be trying to articulate, i.e. excluding intercessors), then logically you would have to condemn "Christians" for asking their fellow "Christians" to pray for them, in order to be consistent. Catholics do pray to Jesus directly, by the way. You need to stop all the anti-Catholic garbage and make consulting this information your number one priority. Your version of Christianity is a counterfeit, and is unhistorical and unbiblical. The Catholic Church is the original Church and you need to belong to it for eternal salvation. Before you dismiss this information by saying you only stick with the Bible, you should know that the very term "Bible" as applied to the books of the Old and New Testaments, comes from St. John Chrysostom, who was a fourth century Catholic bishop. This fact was acknowledged by Protestant scholar, F.F. Bruce. You can see more about this in the video, The First Use of The Bible: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqqUZGqYp56Wqrs Also, the Catholic Church decided what books were to be in the Bible, so you don't even have a Bible without the Catholic Church. The Bible did not fall out of the sky intact. It was put together by the Catholic Church, which is the Church Jesus established (Matthew 16:18-19). You can't be a follower of Jesus unless you accept all of His teaching and hear His Church. That only happens in the traditional Catholic faith. Additionally, if you're one to label the Catholic use of statues as idolatrous, then your problem would be with God and the Bible, because God specifically commands the making of religious statues. The Bible does not condemn the use of true religious statues and images. See Exodus 25:17-19 below (and keep in mind that cherubim are angels): And thou shalt make a mercy seat pure gold: two cubits and a half the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof. And thou shalt make two cherubims gold, beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof. Other Bible references which show God's command to make statues for true religious purposes are: Exodus 26:1, 1 Kings 6, 1 Kings 7:25-36 and Numbers 21:8. For more information about what the Bible teaches regarding the use of true religious statues and praying to Saints (not worshipping Saints), please see this audio with Bible references for one's learning: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/bible-praying-to-saints/#.Xy2Eay2ZPs0 God wants you to become a traditional Catholic. I don't mean to join what purports to be the Catholic Church, which is currently headed by the evil man Antipope Francis. That's the Vatican II Counterfeit Catholic Church. Here is a file that covers the biblical proof for Catholicism: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/bible/ Vatican II "Catholic" Church Exposed: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/vatican-ii-exposed/?WPhp&Theme2020#.XybjKy2ZPs0 (addresses the sex scandals, etc) How to convert to the real Catholic Church: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/catholic-baptism-steps-to-convert/?WPhp&Theme2020#.XzNigy2z3s0 About Section of the website: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/about-website/?WPcc&Theme2020#.Xybkwi2ZPs0 Life is short and Hell is forever. You will have no excuse at your judgment because you have been given the opportunity to embrace true Christianity by way of you having access to all the resources listed here. Take advantage of this soul-saving information and cease engaging in anti-Catholic speech and acts, because you will be eternally condemned to burn in the lake of fire, for having attacked God's one true faith, outside of which there is no salvation. Convert quickly because we're in the last days and of course, people can die at any time.
@7tree1outlaw Жыл бұрын
I got saved when I was 11. To avoid writing out my whole testimony, I will simply say that I stayed from God in my early 20s, and for all intents and purposes, lost my faith. It was to the point where I was angry with God, and tried MULTIPLE times to complete leave the faith. But GOD, through what I can only believe is the power of the Holy Spirit kept bringing me back. Kept pricking my heart and wouldn't let me go ”I am sure of this, that he who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.“ Philippians 1:6 CSB To God be the glory!
@LookoutMountain4ever7 ай бұрын
Yes, that is true, and don't let anyone deceive you otherwise. There are many scriptures that show God's power in saving and "keeping" those whom He saves. Psalm 37:28, "For the Lord loves judgment, and forsakes not His saints; they are preserved forever..." He Himself "preserves" them. Psalm 65:4, "Blessed is the individual whom YOU CHOOSE, and CAUSE TO APPROACH YOU, that he may dwell in Your courts (implying forever)..." If it was all up to us to keep our salvation, then we would be our own saviors, and would have no need of the Holy Spirit. He "seals" us by His Spirit "UNTO the day of salvation," not until we decide to walk away. How could He call any of us His "elect" if we "could" forsake Him? Notice what Jesus said about His elect in Matt. 24:24, "For there shall arise false Christs (false anointed ones -- the charlatans always claim to operate in the "anointing"), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders (slaying in the spirit? laughing uncontrollably? false gifts of the Spirit? fake casting out demons? etc.); insomuch that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, they shall deceive the VERY ELECT." This is a good example that Jesus will keep His elect from being deceived to the point of apostasy. Is it merely "our" will involved? John Baptist was filled with the Spirit while a fetus in his mother's womb. He didn't ask God first, nor did God ask him. His mission to pave the way for YHWH Messiah was prophesied by Isaiah about 700 years before his birth. John could no more apostatize from God and not complete his mission than the moon could decide to leave its orbit around the earth. Again, Isaiah prophesied of a coming king of the Medo-Persians named Cyrus, who he said would issue the decree to rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple, whom God called His "son" (He wasn't the Son of God, of course, but obedient to Him as a son in what God had raised him up to do for Him). But he wrote this prophecy over 200 years before his birth. Cyrus was made by God for this purpose, just like He raised up the evil Pharaoh to show His wonders in Egypt. But does God's will for us mean that we have no choice? Nope. Both wills are involved, which is a conundrum that no man can fully parse. All the warnings of scripture against sin, lethargy, apostasy, etc., only hit bone with God's elect. Those whom Jesus described as seed sown by the wayside, or on rocky ground, or among thorns, or tares, will not fully heed the warnings and repent. Lastly, as you read Jesus' final prayer for His 11 apostles in John 17, you will find that He said that He "kept" them. Compare those verses with John 6:39, the wording is identical. He "keeps" ALL that the Father has given Him, and will lose "NONE" (KJV says "nothing", but the Greek word is "me" [pronounced "may"], which means that all implications are ruled out, in other words, it is "impossible" for Jesus to lose even one of those the Father had already given Him before the foundation of the world, just as it was impossible for Him to have lost the 11 apostles, or Paul, or John Baptist, or Moses, or Elijah, or David. The only reason He lost Judas, whom He described early on as a "devil", was because his betrayal was prophesied in the scriptures hundreds of years before he was born. Jesus said of his betrayal, "that the scripture might be fulfilled." Well, John 6:39 is also a scripture that must be fulfilled -- He will lose NONE. Rejoice in His salvation!
@earthsiege775 жыл бұрын
You can lose blessings and rewards by living a back-slidden life and come under God's discipline and conviction of sin but you won't lose your salvation. I should know I got saved in 1972 and have had many ups and downs but I look for the Lord's appearing everyday.
@raygabrelcik25785 жыл бұрын
Good brother, "Phillip." Living a "back-slidden" life is very dangerous, you give "demons" open access into every area of your life. Why, if one cannot "fall-away" do we see those words in scripture? My friend, read CLOSELY the following verses, and then--ask the LORD for understanding--not MINE--but HIS. Gal.3:1-5; Gal.5:7; Gal.4:8,9; Luke 8:13b; Matt.26:31b; Mark 4:15; Luke 14:34; 2 Thess.3:6-15; 1Tim.1: 3-11; 1Tim.4:1; 1Tim.5:15; Also, chapter 6:10b. Check out Luke 9:62. "Putting your HAND to the plow refers to the "WORK" we do as believers! 2 Pet.2"20-22 is extremely clear in context. Also, 2 Pet.2:15. The following is a clear-cut, sober warning: Heb.2:1-3. And of course, Heb.6: 4-6, which is taken OUT if its obvious context by some Christians. And YES--Heb.7:27 says that "Christ died ONCE for ALL..." But that is NOT implying one cannot "fall." There are quite a few MORE, good brother, but tell me, why is there actually more WARNINGS in scripture than "pats on the back?" God TELLS us, "Be SOBER-MINED and...WATCH." Watch WHAT? It's the same thing as "take heed...stand...lest you FALL." Some would say it makes it sound as if God is impersonal--I beg to differ! He LOVES us enough to WARN us what can happen if we allow "laodicia" to get the better--or should I say--WORST of us. Pray for wisdom, my friend, for she is greater than "fine jewels." God bless you.
@DeeMoney-rj4rj4 жыл бұрын
Edward Russell that’s false doctrine
@DeeMoney-rj4rj4 жыл бұрын
Edward Russell 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 don’t add to perfection
@earthsiege774 жыл бұрын
@Edward Russell What you have written is not true about hell burst open. I didn't mention I have been doing the work of an evangelist for over 45 yrs. either planting seeds or leading people to Jesus. Plus you need to read Romans Ch. 7:15-25 and read about the Apostle Paul's struggles. Also my spiritual nature has never sinned but my flesh does everyday 1 John 1:10. I am taking only my spiritual to Heaven w/ me. P.S. All true believers have this dual nature of 100% Holy Spirit and 100% Flesh; the flesh sinful nature will die at our redemption thru death or rapture.
@НатанаилСталев-ф2р4 жыл бұрын
@@earthsiege77 AMEN TO THAT BROTHER! In waiting for our NEW Glorified bodies, MARANATHA!
@kevinmccoy21604 жыл бұрын
I have been in the faith for over 10 years. My experience has been: the more I learn, the more questions I have. All in all, I hope God will humor me cause we need to talk. Lol
@djohnson30934 жыл бұрын
Questions are a good thing friend! My grandfather used to tell me that someone who doesn't have questions is someone who doesn't care to know.
@patriciaulbricht36434 жыл бұрын
James 2:24 You see that a Person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHvSYoKQmLGnoqM Best bible passage to refute once saved always saved. This channel will solve your questions.
@focusbendsreality3694 жыл бұрын
Love it! :)
@richhutnik24774 жыл бұрын
I am not sure the life is one if no questions. Look at Job for example.
@spnola96503 жыл бұрын
@@patriciaulbricht3643 Don't just read scripture study it and learn what it says about salvation. Watch both these videos and visit the main channel for the rest of the bible. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYXVaGl5Z9irf68 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjRfGOuo8l1oaM
@stephanvanderwesthuizen41587 жыл бұрын
Wow Allen. This is awesome. I love how you ended the video, we must focus more on our purpose here than arguing about different beliefs. You couldn't have said it any better. God bless you brother.
@thebeatagp7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and for your comment Stephan van der Westhuizen! God bless,
@Keepitoriginalministry2 жыл бұрын
@@thebeatagp I would like to discuss this OSAS teaching with you brother
@studygodsword59372 жыл бұрын
@@thebeatagp For our time on earth, God gave us free will ! If you chose to leave, he will not force to stay !
@studygodsword59372 жыл бұрын
@@thebeatagp most people only look at the extremes (getting saved every day, or never losing your salvation) ! the truth is you can never lose it, but you can give it away by openly denying the Lord Jesus Christ, Hebrews 6 4-6 clearly indicates this, also Matthew 4:37 ! But the mark of Christian maturity, where you can not be restored is a high bar, also in Hebrews 6 4-6 !
@avalaxton36962 жыл бұрын
Sir thank you. You have given me comfort. My son 37 years old was killed 3 weeks ago. He was saved thru faith when he was a teenager. This has been un-bearable. Thank you so much!
@evangelesong63192 жыл бұрын
I so sorry for your loss. Lord please comfort Ava and her family during this time. Lift them up and shine your warm light upon them. There is great comfort in the fact that your son knew our great Lord and that you will be with him again one day 💛🙏
@annaswanson1762 жыл бұрын
No one is judged until Jesus returns. The dead are asleep according to the Bible. God doesn't judge those who never knew his name. I can't remember what verse this was. Sorry for your loss. Please stop listening to this false teacher. Try School for Prophets with Atila, Bible flock box, and Justin Pestlin. They break the down the Bible word for word. School for prophets requested a debate with Allen Parr and he refused. Why? Because he knows he'll be shut down! He's another feel good teacher. The key is to be obedient to God no matter what happens in your life. Trials help us to get closer to God. Keep the faith...
@malarm80382 жыл бұрын
@@annaswanson176 SDA?
@annaswanson1762 жыл бұрын
Bible Truth is my religion. I study my Bible.
@DrDoerk2 жыл бұрын
@@annaswanson176 you cannot say Allen is a false teacher..... you may disagree with some of his understanding, but saying he's a false teacher is an absolute lie..... and lying is a sin..... you shouldn't be spreading lies about a brother in Christ
@stherlym.91804 жыл бұрын
If u read your Bible, it literally said that “he who is in the world, is an enemy of God” so just bc you’ve accepted Christ into ur life doesn’t mean it’s ok to go ahead and go back to ur sinful ways.
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
Stherly M . Hebrews 4:13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account. 2 Corinthians 5:10 For WE must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether GOOD or EVIL. And all of us go back to our sinful ways because we’re not sinless😂
@stherlym.91804 жыл бұрын
“Therefore, dear brothers and sisters, you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do. For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature, you will live.” Romans 8:12-13 If you are a true believer in Jesus Christ you would try to keep his commandments and don’t keep sinning.
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
Stherly M . Notice in that verse Paul says through the power of your spirit. Proving it’s at war. We’re in the flesh. Our spirit is inside us. Our soul goes to heaven not body We can’t put sinful desires away if we’re still in our sinful state. That’s why Jesus died for us to redeem us. All sin is paid for at the cross. Holy living is great but not for salvation. Jesus gave us salvation that’s why it’s a gift of God. I hope this helps.
@stherlym.91804 жыл бұрын
Court JM yeah we’re not perfect but at least try to change your ways, it was hard for me at first but it worked.
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
Stherly M . Absolutely. We can try. If I can go one day without sinning, that would be by God’s power😂. Even the slightest sins are sins. Christ saved us at the cross. I do believe in obedience but obedience is for rewards, not salvation I see what you’re saying desiring to obey but our flesh is dead to submission
@evangelistkimpatrik4 жыл бұрын
I believe that we can be 100% sure we are saved. God does not want us to doubt our salvation. Praise the Lord!
@chrisgrafton86633 жыл бұрын
Amen
@timothyseals37913 жыл бұрын
Many scriptures show us that OSAS is not biblical. The parable of the prodigal son proves OSAS is not biblical.
@timothyseals37913 жыл бұрын
@Andrew West What statement are you referring to?
@timothyseals37913 жыл бұрын
@Andrew West No that statement is not in the bible, I am talking about the false doctrine that teaches that once a person is born again/saved, they can never lose their salvation, no matter what. That is the false doctrine of OSAS.
@timothyseals37913 жыл бұрын
@Andrew West As I said earlier. The parable of the prodigal son says you are incorrect.
@bentonfarrish92874 жыл бұрын
Please read... Colo 1:21-23 Rev 3:5 1 Tim 4:1 1 Tim 6:10 Once saved, always saved… “IF” you stay saved! (Remember): 1) Salvation is a free gift… (Meaning YOU can receive it or YOU can reject it) 2) God doesn’t make you stay with him if you don’t want to. He gave us the choice. 3) “FALL AWAY from the faith”… “to him that OVERCOME”...”ERRED from the faith”... You can only fall away “FROM”...err “FROM” it if you were “IN” it (the Faith) initially. 4) The epistles were written to the CHURCH...Christians.
@benjaminballah59822 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% The brother Parr did a good job on this video for the most part presenting his view point but I think it was a huge miss that he did not discuss scriptures like these that so clearly challenge the Once Saved Always Saved theology. I would also include Hebrews 6:4-6
@michaelurlich63583 жыл бұрын
This is such an encouraging message I’ve been a Christian for almost 10 years and am sometimes disappointed with the areas of my life that aren’t in-line with God, but then I remind myself at least I’m not where I was before, and that highlights all the things the lord has help me overcome or at least improve on.
@MrKev16643 жыл бұрын
Christ be with you its false Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. *For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:* but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. (Rom 8:12-13) St Paul is speaking to people who are no longer debtors telling them it the return to sin they will die God bless you
@winterpatriot14292 жыл бұрын
Michael, you’re absolutely right. Our spirit is righteous with God, but we still have these corrupt physical bodies, and will fall short from time to time. Some sins are more easily put behind us than others. Physically, we don’t just “step over a log” into perfection. 👍
@gregorylatta81592 жыл бұрын
@@MrKev1664 Their flesh will die surely but if saved their spirit will live forever with Jesus.
@gregorylatta81592 жыл бұрын
@@winterpatriot1429 100 percent correct.
@MrKev16642 жыл бұрын
@@gregorylatta8159 Christ be with you It’s a pretty dumb response Everyone’s flesh dies, there would be no point in these words. You are trying to deny what St Paul is teaching. Talk about twisting his word to your own destruction. (2 Peter 3:15-16) Come to Christ
@marcellouis24483 жыл бұрын
I think we gotta define what it means to be “truly” saved and “truly” Christian
@dannyglover91513 жыл бұрын
Acts 16:30-31
@MrKev16643 жыл бұрын
Christ be with you Jesus does that for us A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. (John 13:34-35) Act 16:30-31 is not what it means to be Christian It is mere the first step. then we must learn about his teaching And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. (Acts 16:32-33) Anyone who tells you a Gospel that does not tell us we must abide in this doctrine of Christ is a partaker of Evil. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 9-11) (Please read the rest of 2 John to see this is the doctrine being talked of ) God bless you
@MrKev16643 жыл бұрын
@faith grace Christ be with you So you think Jesus is wrong. Romans 4 is referring to works of the law, circumcision, animal sacrifice, cleansing rituals, holy days and dietary requirements not Good works. It appears most Protestant so not know what faith is. Abraham's promise came through faith (Rom 4:13) but is was kept because he obeyed God ( Gen 26:4-5) If you read more than the proof text you would see that faith must establish the Law (Rom 3:31) I think you should look at what faith in Jesus Christ means to you. I would also look at the gospel you follow as it sound like it does not contain the doctrine of Christ, and that would make it evil ( 2 John 9-11) Please read more than just proof texts and find the true Gospel. God bless you
@johnward26503 жыл бұрын
Being saved is to simply give your mind body and soul to God to do that you must know the truth about his word the correct revelation and he has to give it to us we can’t get it just by reading the Bible he has to reveal it to us
@marcellouis24483 жыл бұрын
@@johnward2650 I agree. I just think we have been conditioned by modern church for us to stop at just that statement and our actions don’t necessarily follow. And based off of this video that clear distinction was not truly made.
@brorichthetruthtella58764 жыл бұрын
Just coming across this video. You said in the beginning that you don’t want nobody to say what they believe but in the 3rd scripture you yourself said “this is why I believe you can’t lose your salvation “. Question though, why does Paul always say that you must endure till the end to be saved? God gives you free will. He won’t make you stay somewhere you don’t want to be. You have to pay attention to words. There are a lot of “ifs” when it comes to your salvation in scripture.
@spnola96503 жыл бұрын
Watch this if you want to know the truth kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYXVaGl5Z9irf68
@all_mine12333 жыл бұрын
@@Hotcheetos25 You are correct in terms of the tribulation. But what do you mean by "tribulation saints?"
@all_mine12333 жыл бұрын
@@Hotcheetos25 Oh I see, but believers actually don't go through the tribulation. That's only unbelievers.
@letstalkbiblewithshun.s3 жыл бұрын
@@Hotcheetos25 it doesn't say this was to the tribulation saints
@FamousCube3 жыл бұрын
Endure means we will go through tribulations and be prosecuted as Christians, we must endure to the end. Doesn’t mean we must be sinless until the end, God says we are liars if we claim to be sinless, everyone sins.
@nathanhay91574 жыл бұрын
As a pastor who once was miles from God and knowing I was not covered by His mighty grace any longer, I believe with such an important doctrine where people’s eternal security rests, the topic needs much study to support such a stand. I appreciate your efforts here to help other believers. For the record, I don’t believe that God throws us out but rather humankind has free will. So if someone decides to reject Christianity years later and live a satanic life or just godless existence, then why would this person deserve to live with Jesus in heaven when he clearly didn’t want to live with Him here?! I think in order to decide upon and to preach a doctrine, you need firstly not to find scriptures that support your view especially if the are plenty of scriptures saying the opposite. I would like to hear you overcome the many parables, warnings and teachings all through the Bible before we disregard and ignore clear teachings in the word. Especially when we are warned not to preach a foreign gospel or add to the word. Here are just a few; 1. 10 virgins, 5 that don’t make it and yet all are called and waiting 2. Unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit where there is no forgiveness. Why would you need this if not saved. 3. Parable of talents, 1 slothful servant of God 4. Rebukes to seven churches, return or have your lamp stand put out 5. Matt 18 dealing with conflict in the church, last move to put the person outside under Satans control so that they maybe saved 6. Tasting of the heavenly gifts and partaken in the Holy Spirit but falling away there is no forgiveness of their sin 7. Rev 12 leave the out Court worshipers 8. Prodigal son, was he restored if he stayed in the pig pen of life? There’s plenty more. What are your thoughts?
@jhanghehung63714 жыл бұрын
Pastor Nathan i agree with you
@albertdelacruz43744 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@bluephone13284 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree with you, people need to speak IN CONTEXT the scriptures. Point is God keeps us as long as long as we want to be kept! Luke 2: 62- Noone who puts his hands to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God. Thats just one scripture going against what he said. People please study and know the Bible for yourselves. No hate and evil towards this brother but at the end of the day. We have to stay in line with the grace God has given unto us. Apply the principals of the Bible. When I backslid, if I would have died in my sin I would have gone to hell, its as simple as that. God's grace kept me alive to allow me to come back to Him. But many dont get that chance. Long story short. Know the Bible for yourselves people!
@djohnson30934 жыл бұрын
Please. You said at the end of your comment that there are plenty more where those came from. I'd be interested in seeing them. So far, none of these you have listed say anything about anyone losing salvation after being in Christ while being used in context. Of course if you separate them from context and study them as stand alone verses, then yes. I guess you can make the argument that it's possible to lose salvation if you twist the meaning to fit a certain view. But in context, none of these support losing salvation. Study scripture as a whole. Not as individual verses. Pick one from your list and let's discuss it with scriptural support.
@albertdelacruz43744 жыл бұрын
@@djohnson3093 "But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die." Ezekiel 18:24 KJV Word of God! ✨ It's said clearly. It clearly says that the "righteous" (who are the ones that are justified) can lose everything that they had done if they turn away from their righteousness... All of their righteousness won't be even mentioned. A righteous can fall and lose salvation.
@brianhumble39983 жыл бұрын
I was saved several years ago. Easily the greatest moment of my life. I felt instantly transformed and different. The lord instilled in me something I never really had before, discernment. I still struggle with sin to this day. Mostly because I was a new Christian and was fairly ignorant of scripture or was fed a false gospel at times. But never once did I feel unsaved or condemned. But when I did commit a sin I felt something I never felt before which was guilt and remorse over what I had done. I look forward to the day I get to stand face to face with Jesus and rejoice in heaven with other believers.
@mytestimonytojesuschrist Жыл бұрын
This video contains false teaching, so don’t be deceived.
@harveygosal11 ай бұрын
Like what?@@mytestimonytojesuschrist
@feliciamollinedo11296 жыл бұрын
This was sooooo uplifting !!! I'm crying ! Thank you for doing these important videos! I love how you provide proof thru scripture ! I will never lose my salvation ! God Bless You sir!
@melonykilby68875 жыл бұрын
I think as long as we dont PRACTICE SIN , and if we try and do our best to serve him , and pray and have a relationship with God , asking forgiveness daily , then we are saved
@lightninlad5 жыл бұрын
This tells me that you understood what the scriptures have always taught. It seems to me that if a person reads the scriptures BEFORE hearing about the doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved, then this ridiculous idea never enters into their mind. That should tell us something.
@hotwax93765 жыл бұрын
@Melony Kilby Wrong. That's dangerously close to salvation by works, which we know from Ephesians 2:8-9 is not Scriptural. Salvation is by faith and faith alone. If believers could lose their salvation simply by sinning again, then we would constantly be losing our salvation and needing to regain it. Faith in Christ is the only way to reach salvation, and conversely renouncing that faith is the only way a believer can lose his/her salvation.
@robertteague63425 жыл бұрын
HotWax93 you cannot lose your salvation by simply sinning again. You can lose your salvation by willfully sinning. This is the real truth on the once saved always saved doctrine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIiVaa2plJWNjpI
@sandramartinez81055 жыл бұрын
HotWax93 you do have to do your part, however, and truly repent.
@two3865 жыл бұрын
Melony you are RIGHT.. The word is Practice. We all sin but if WE Practice Sin WE become a SINNER.
@HiddenLifeInChristJesus5 жыл бұрын
I am saved! I am being save! I will be save!
@raygsbrelcik55784 жыл бұрын
Yes, as long as you "continue in HIS word..." John 8:31.
@DeeMoney-rj4rj4 жыл бұрын
Ray Gsbrelcik false doctrine
@DeeMoney-rj4rj4 жыл бұрын
Ray Gsbrelcik unless you mean Jesus
@ronaller52094 жыл бұрын
There are few saved because many refuse to BELIEVE in Jesus the Christ for Eternal Life. The way that leads to life is narrow (Matt. 7:13-14). Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but by Him (John 14:6). Self-righteous people are on the wrong path. They are on the broad way that leads to destruction (Matt. 7:13). Jesus came to save those who know that they are sick and lost and in absolute need of His deliverance (Matt. 9:12-13; Mark 2:17; Luke 5:31-32; 18:9-14). Of course, that is all of us, all of mankind. However, some people are unwilling to own up to the truth. The cross of Christ is a stumbling block to those who think that they are good enough to deserve kingdom entrance. Those who throughout the course of their lives reject the free gift of salvation and refuse to trust in Christ alone will find out that in reality they are sinners, those who “practice lawlessness” (Matt. 7:23). Only then it will be too late. What would you say if you appeared before God and He said, “Why should I let you into My kingdom?” Matthew 7:22 is the wrong answer. The right answer is, “Lord, I am an unworthy sinner who has placed his complete trust upon what Jesus did for me upon the cross, and He promised that whoever believes in Him has eternal life” (Luke 18:13-14; John 3:16; Rom. 4:5; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).May we call people to do the will of God so that they can obtain entrance into the kingdom of God. Those who place their trust wholly in Jesus Christ have done the will of the Father and have already passed from death to life (John 5:24) and will not come into judgment regarding their eternal destiny (John 3:18). Shalom
@DeeMoney-rj4rj4 жыл бұрын
Ron Aller that’s absolutely right I was once spiritually blinded by religion walking in the flesh but now I walk in the spirit and I owe it all to God saved by grace through faith
@hotcub72 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cweed763 жыл бұрын
I SO NEEDED to hear this!!!! AMEN!!! Thank you so very much for this video! You have no idea how much The Lord just used you to speak too me.
@timothyseals37913 жыл бұрын
Many scriptures show us that OSAS is not biblical. The parable of the prodigal son proves OSAS is not biblical.
@royandel-ong64144 жыл бұрын
Praise God, thank you brother for the truth of your message. I was saved year 2000. Within that span of year til the start of lock down. My life is a like a wheel. Up and down, always stumbling down to the point that I intentionally stop praying and again embrace the worldly life. Many times I encounter nightmare and wrestle with the enemy trying to put me to a complete sleep. But each time I call on the Lord to save me. Then it become a habit just to call on God and repent whenever I'm in trouble. But this pandemic bring a great blessing to me. I was lock down... No work no pay. Instead of freaking out, I welcome it as a wake up call. That God has purposely than this thing because He loves me much. So I assess my spiritual state, humbled down and again seek God's fellowship. I start rereading my Bible and hope to finish it before I return to my place. This OSAS, message just confirm everything . What God has started in my life. He is going to finish it before the return of Christ Jesus. I also resume my intercessory prayers and be part of the many lights shining bright on my place and also to the world. Appreciate if you would Kindly include me in all your prayers...Thank you.
@stephaniedekinger24633 жыл бұрын
His true followers will never lose their salvation, simply because He dwells in us and He will never leave us or forsake us! Nothing can separate us from the love of God! Only His sheep know His voice! Hallelujah! 🙌🏽🥰
@rjsuvakjr3 жыл бұрын
Hate to burst your bubble, but he would forsake you if you forsake him. You can separate yourself from God, but cannot separate him from you. The scripture says so. However, you are right. "...True followers will never lose their salvation..." because in order to demonstrate that your faith is genuine, we have to do good works. As long as we do both, in accordance with his will, we will -always- be saved. God will always be with us. However, he may not SAVE us. Those are two distinctive issues. God is with the person shouting at the Cashier @ Walmart. However, he likely ALSO is with that cashier. The person shouting at the cashier isn't doing a good work. So, thus, her mistake if repeated without repentance, she is not doing good works continually. However, God is still with you. You just can't feel his presence/ the feeling of BEING saved. Still, Christ be with you!
@stephaniedekinger24633 жыл бұрын
@@rjsuvakjr Yes that’s exactly right Brother! Jesus came for my narcissistic sister, she followed Him, but not nearly long enough for Him to change her, she went right back into the world and then married a woman. She tries to say that Jesus brought her a wife. 🤮
@rjsuvakjr3 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniedekinger2463 I understand the feeling but remember Christ's example of 'Judge lest you be Judged'. You judge your sister for her sin, then you must judge yourself on your own. Remember God has a plan for you and for your sister. She can rebel but she will always serve God's will in one form or another. So, by judging her, you judge God's judgement. You can separate yourself from that behavior and use it as an example of what not to do. However, you should not judge them or their relationship with God. The same goes for all non-believers. Instead of damning, or holding people in contempt, try to build a bridge. Otherwise, you are going to be separating yourself from god. A high horse is not a good work.
@stephaniedekinger24633 жыл бұрын
@@rjsuvakjr Jesus chose me on June 7, 2018. He has given me permission to judge righteously, He anointed me to call out her sin. My sister is a narcissist sociopath. Jesus told me to stay away from the narcissistic family and He also said if one of them dies, let the dead bury their dead and keep following me. She is at the top of my list when I pray for my enemies. She has tried several times to physically kill me, but Jesus had a plan for me.
@rjsuvakjr3 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniedekinger2463 He gave you the ability to discuss it, but he didn't make you judge jury and executioner of her judgement. You say she tried to physically kill you, but you're mis-applying that verse. The verse means to serve God. You can leave that family behind and focus on God. That is your religious duty. However, nowhere does that verse say anyone is fit to judge anyone. So, back to my comment, the only person(s) fit to judge the sins of another being is the Father & the Son. Nobody else has that right. God chose you to speak his word, but not to judge others. Condemning others before their judgement only adds sin to your own list. The meaning I'm getting at is described in Matthew 7. You are not perfect, so you are to discuss sinful nature, and provide constructive feedback. However, you cannot condemn people before they are truly condemned. Repentance is a concept we only partially understand. Divine Salvation plays a role in it, and we have to understand we didn't set the rules for salvation. God did. You must forgive your sister and your family. Forgiveness doesn't mean you forget, but it means you need to let go of the anger and resentment. That pulls you away from God. Just reading your comments, I can feel that raw anger and rage. You have to let yourself heal, but you also cannot condemn them. At some point, they will haver to atone for their sins (either on this Earth or in the Nether).
@TheBrideOfChristTV2 жыл бұрын
You explained well bro. God bless you. two thumbs up!
@theministerartist92497 жыл бұрын
Brother Allen, I appreciate and respect the work you do for the lord. I am a subscriber and I will continue to watch your videos. However, with that said I must respectfully disagree that once saved always saved. I agree works do not save us but the grace of God. We cannot earn our way to heaven. I also believe we can be forgiven multiple times for our sins and no sin is too great to be covered by Jesus atonement for our sins. Nevertheless, if we turn away from God and do not repent we chose not to serve him. Matthew 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. This verse is not just for false prophets but anyone who is not doing God’s will. If a believer is unrepentant of the sins in 1 Corinthians 6:9, Galatians 5:21, and Revelation 21:8 they will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Continually committing the sins mentioned in those chapters without repenting would contradict God’s word. Saying I am sorry is different from repenting. Furthermore, in Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Many people want to have enough of Jesus to be saved but still have fun with the devil. I believe that it is risky because your heart could turn away from God and you won't repent anymore. Some peopleget old, sick, or injured and choose to repent. However, we could be killed instantly without a chance to repent. Even when we have been baptized we must choose who we will serve. We could fall away and even come into unbelief. God does not force us to choose. God wants all of us to return home to him. God will forgive us if we ask Him. However, individuals have to ask for forgiveness and try to serve to the best of our ability. Respectfully. Your brother in Christ The Minister Artist
@joeb38747 жыл бұрын
The Minister Artist amen
@TheJude17907 жыл бұрын
The Minister Artist amen
@Silverheart19566 жыл бұрын
Dear The Minister Artist I am not sure what point you are making. I assume that you agree with Christian theology that salvation comes by faith only, in the work of Jesus Christ, separate of you own efforts (works). Are you implying that salvation is maintained or retained (at least in part) by what we do (our works) ? If this is what you are trying to say, then this would not be a Scriptural understanding of the Christian doctrine of salvation. It appears that your understanding of soteriology may have some misconceptions. Do genuine Christians sin ? Yes. If a Christian sins will he lose his salvation ? No, not under the Gospel endorsed by Scripture, because Scripture clearly teaches salvation is by faith, not by works. If you say one loses his salvation because of his behavior then your salvation is based upon faith plus works, which is not the Christian basis of genuine salvation. The faith plus works gospel, is one of the "different gospels" mentioned in Gal. 1. Christians don't work and serve God, to become Christians (because all our good we do is not up to God's standards); we work and serve God because we are Christians. You said, "Many people want to have enough of Jesus to be saved but still have fun with the devil." This description does not fit the Biblical description of a Christian, who is a new creation in Christ where the old has passed away and he is now indwelled and sealed by the Holy Spirit. If you see someone like you described, I would assume they were not a genuine Christian. Your perception of regeneration and Spiritual grow appears to be weak. They may have enough of Jesus to be Christianized into institutional Christianity, but not enough belief in God's grace through Jesus, to be a geniune Christian. There is a very significant difference between the two. You mentioned, "We could fall away and even come into unbelief." I'm just curious; how would your statement be understood in the light of 1 John 2:19 ("They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.") Would you agree that people could verbally profess to be Christians, fellowship regularly with Christians and externally act and look like Christians, but not be genuine Christians; just very close Christian counterfeits. They are not genuine Christians and do not have the Holy Spirit indwelling them; they have never become a new creation in Christ, but are imitation Christians; and they may be convinced in their mind, they are Christians. When they leave (fall from grace/fall away), it appears that they have fallen away from Christianity and many would describe the situation as such. This scenario certainly explains a lot of the phenomena that we see. Wish I could sit and talk with you. Many thanks for your consideration. DZ
@theministerartist92496 жыл бұрын
I agree that we are saved by faith and accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Sin cannot make anyone lose their salvation. Works strengthens our faith and we can show our faithfulness through works. Works itself cannot save. I am simply saying that if someone chose to deny Christ after being saved that person chose to reject Christ. Christ calls us but he does not force us to stay with Him. Anyone who repents and asks for forgiveness will receive His grace and mercy.
@rutherd.wanderergospelmagi36076 жыл бұрын
give authentic contextual bible verse "not out of context huh?" to support your point men
@josephbryant59505 жыл бұрын
We are saved by grace through faith Ephesians 2:8
@jayjameson76447 жыл бұрын
Bro.Parr I really enjoy your videos you are a great teacher! But I have to disagree with you on this subject... you forgot to mention the one thing God with all of His omnipotent and infinite power cannot or He will not do... and that's go against a person's will! Read Ezek. 33:11-20 I likened this to that of the angels they had the right or the freedom to choose but were not offered the gift of salvation. God didn't go against the angels will nor does He go against our will" God doesn't want robots! No one spoke more emphatically about hell then Jesus himself and those who are going there and what it takes to miss the mark. There are too many scriptures to mention that support how a person could choose to lose their salvation" the bottom line is those who practice lawlessness and if they don't repent of their sinful backsliding ways and die in their sin they wont see heaven's gates.
@gamingwithgregor2.0417 жыл бұрын
Jay Jameson Amen
@Ephesians28n96 жыл бұрын
Jay Jameson sounds like alot of hard work. I hope you're good enough.
@lindodlamini16536 жыл бұрын
JWatson1769 but why you keep calling him fool, I don't get that part brother?
@fredsackey9066 жыл бұрын
No one is perfect, even the disciples wondered who would be saved. Truth is, Christians are not perfect either, we slip and fall, make mistakes etc. etc. but a genuine Christian will ALWAYS return to God. That is the work of the Holy Spirit.
@checkthemikecrophone90506 жыл бұрын
You reference an Old Testament scripture as opposed to New Testament when Jesus fulfilled mosaic law.: so if you disagree with Alan parr then you believe sins are greater than gods atonement and promises of salvation for those who are committed to believing in Jesus? If you think Jesus is greater than our sins then case close salvation can’t be lost. That doesn’t mean you can do whatever u want becusse a saved person is convicted by Holy Spirit to refrain from doing things of the world so even though we will not be perfect we have grace whereas the people who don’t accept Christ reject his gift of salvation
@danparks829011 ай бұрын
I think part of the problem that leads to the controversy is seeing our salvation as something that is already complete rather than that we are "being saved". We can't lose something that is not complete and by the same token we can't fully have it until it is complete. In fact, salvation really has to do with being "made whole" rather than an idea of being "rescued from hell". He who endures to the end will be saved. Certainly by definition the "elect" are secure and the Lord knows those who are his.
@jeffreygerfen27844 жыл бұрын
Again, I agree with you 100%. I would add that if a person thought he or she was saved then rejects God later in their lives, then I would have to question their salvation in the first place. But I believe rejecting God and backsliding are two different things. We can’t make the judgement of a persons salvation because we can’t see into a persons heart, their salvation or lack of salvation is between them and God.
@kaylamarie47774 жыл бұрын
And this is my dilemma! I posted a comment about this but it was a lot longer than yours lol
@spnola96503 жыл бұрын
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@waynenorumu54853 жыл бұрын
Rejecting Christ is by unsaved people but backsliding is by a Christian. However the word backsliding/backslide is not found in the New Testamant.
@jeffreygerfen27843 жыл бұрын
@@waynenorumu5485 It doesn’t matter if backsliding is in the Bible or not, it is the concept or idea. The Trinity isn’t in the Bible either but most all Christians believe in the concept/doctrine.
@anthonyspencer64753 жыл бұрын
How can u determine that.people leave there faith all the time.
@HalChaffee5 жыл бұрын
Love you brother, but you misquoted scripture. You said, “All that the Father has given me, I will not lose one” (7:50). That’s not what the Bible says and is very misleading. The Bible clearly says that it is the WILL OF GOD that He does not lose one. Big difference. It’s also the will if God that none should perish, but that all should come to repentance; but the will of God is not always accomplished. It pains me to see this doctrine promulgated as it is. There is a great apostasy coming (2 Th 2:3, 1 Tim 4:1, Mat 24:9-13) and we should be warning believers as the Bible does (Heb 3:12, for example). Instead, many are receiving false assurance because of teachings like this.
@granitarichardson51565 жыл бұрын
Hal Chaffee Thank you for using Scripture to back up what I believed. It is so important as teachers of Scripture that we rightly divide the word of truth. The Scriptures are the final authority on which we base our beliefs. But if our beliefs are based on a misinterpretation of the Scripture we’ll continue to teach it incorrectly. I knew there was a Scripture about the great falling away. And that falling away refers to the Saints. This supports the idea of being able to forfeit entering into the kingdom of God by our own choice.
@graftme31685 жыл бұрын
@@granitarichardson5156 the falling away does NOT refer to those who are born again! It has to do with the rampant false teachings that will take place, but it doesn't mean believers lose salvation. What does HAVE eternal life mean?
@graftme31685 жыл бұрын
John 10:28-29. "neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" because "my Father, who gave them to me, is greater than all "
@jamesjeson5565 жыл бұрын
Graft Me Depart from the faith means one had it, therefore, lost it. No faith no salvation.
@graftme31685 жыл бұрын
@@jamesjeson556 I don't believe it is speaking of those who are born again because the next verse says that those who depart from the faith were liars, having their conscience seared, etc. 80% of Americans claim they are of the Christian faith, but that doesn't mean they are born again. We see many departing from the teachings of the faith and are believing lies, but they were never OF the faith. If one truly believes eternal life is by the grace of God through faith in that grace, they would never depart. The problem with those who believe they can lose their salvation is that they don't actually put their faith in Jesus Christ. They put it in their own ability. Those are ones who will depart from the faith because they never really believed the Gospel.
@ericsisk14 жыл бұрын
I hear Allan Parr. I see Denzel Washington. Lol
@clarenceoliveriii4 жыл бұрын
Rightttt LoL
@austin37894 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Gary8284 жыл бұрын
lol
@nickvincent56364 жыл бұрын
It's so TRUE ! I thought I was the only one to think that. :D
@aalittleman34 жыл бұрын
Thankyou! I always knew there was something but it never hit me until now haha
@bariettaperez3 жыл бұрын
What about the 10 virgins parable ? They’re a representation of a Christian and they ALL fell asleep waiting for the husband (Jesus) but when they heard He was arriving (most likely the rapture) only 5 of them were wise enough to have oil in their lamps (speaking about an intimate relationship with God. Basically, your gas tank is full lol) and it lights up the way for them to go to the bedchambers. The foolish virgins asked if they could have some of the oil from the wise virgins but the wise ones were wise once more and told them that they needed to go buy some oil for themselves at the market (“pay a price” for that relationship. And I don’t mean we are saved by works. Don’t misunderstand me. But the “price” I speak about is a life of sacrament and intimacy with God in prayer and the reading of His Word). So the foolish virgins left and went to buy oil. But upon their return, the bedchambers were closed and no one else could enter (like the Noah story when the door to the boat was shut.) They knocked and the king (bridegroom) told them to go away because He knew them not ! And He also alluded to them being unclean because of the hour that they were knocking on His door. These were a representation of CHRISTIANS. I strongly believe that if you’re living a righteous life before God then you’re fine. But if you’re a Christian and you continue to sin then I’m sorry, buddy but you can’t be near God cuz He is HOLY. There’s another passage that says that we must have white clothes that is neither stained nor wrinkled (meaning our souls must be clean before Him) and there’s another verse that says that we must be holy because God is holy.
@abideintheWord3 жыл бұрын
Keep preaching it sister! I have several videos over on my channel warning people about this dangerous doctrine. It’s the same lie of the devil in Genesis 3:4 when the serpent told Eve she could sin and not die. Please check out some of my vids. I think they will be a blessed to you. God bless!
@me40196 жыл бұрын
If it's once saved always saved, why the constant warnings about being careful not to be decieved?
@Poptartsthatareplain1015 жыл бұрын
Yolande Bouwer many forms of deception
@Mcfirefly25 жыл бұрын
Because allowing the devil to inculcate false teaching into your life, _poisons_ your faith, and wrecks your life, including your testimony? Because we want to be joyful, fruitful Christians, servants of Jesus, and not spiritual shipwrecks? Not every warning is about salvation, or implies loss of salvation. For one thing, what about what Jesus said about. "eternal...everlasting life"? Was what He said true, or was He just running a bait and switch operation, making promises with His fingers crossed behind His back, which He did not intend to honor? That's impossible, isn't it?
@TheLily972325 жыл бұрын
Being saved doesn't mean being perfect.... it means acknowledging your weakness in the flesh and repent at all times when you fail. But I agree with you it takes sacrifice and commitment to surrendering yourself to Jesus all day and not just "oh it's done".
@Mcfirefly25 жыл бұрын
@@TheLily97232 It's kind of hard to come to the right way to look at it, but when we are sincerely seeking the truth, He's going to be guiding us into all truth. Our changing to become conformed to His image isn't all finished as long as we're alive down here. But His work on the cross is done, and that is what gives us our standing as sons and daughters, that allows us to live in His grace, not afraid that we will fail to pass the judgment because of our failures, or because we aren't growing fast enough, and we fear that He might grow impatient with us. Because He bore our sin, our sin is imputed to Him, and His righteousness is imputed to us. That's even more important than our growth. But when we rest in it, were so grateful we want to do what pleases Him.
@trout_man62005 жыл бұрын
There is a enemy we fight with & it is not flesh & blood. Salvation is never lost, rewards are.
@marcuselliottsr5 жыл бұрын
Scripture teaches of a great falling away. And some would depart the faith.
@AfroCentauri5 жыл бұрын
Marcus Elliott Sr THANK YOU. And their excuse is that they were never saved, which makes no sense.
@Sonny-xx9us5 жыл бұрын
@@AfroCentauri Falling away does not some how say they went to hell.
@lightninlad5 жыл бұрын
Bob Smith Satan appears as an angel of light, Bob: (2 Cor.11:14) ““And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”
@TheLily972325 жыл бұрын
But they were never really of us He says.
@kodularguy30555 жыл бұрын
This is the work of a satan....To divide us as a followers of jesus
@akajoseph85585 жыл бұрын
Thank you always.But in line with this video explain this passage: “ Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling “ Thank you for your wonderful work.
@jasonchilds44235 жыл бұрын
The verse you mentioned is Phillipians 2:12. Except most of the book of Proverbs, it usually helps to read before and after the verse that raises a question. Phillipians 2:13 reveals that God works in you. The beauty of the salvation that God has invested in you is constantly being discovered. As you pray, fellowship with other Christians, study the Bible and obey Jesus what he has put in you will be more plainly seen by you and those around you. Work out what God has worked in.
@earthsiege774 жыл бұрын
Notice how it doesn't say work AT or For our salvation because that's impossible since Jesus paid it all. Paul is expounding on Eph. 2:10 that we are created unto good works.
@the-conscious-vibe Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how this is even a question people can entertain. If you were always saved once you're saved then this would completely discount any free will a person has. One can always choose to turn back to sin if they want to. Even Satan was once an archangel who chose to sin against God. If we were always saved then that'd mean we'd have absolutely no choice to turn to evil. God doesn't take away our free will. Being saved is constant choice one has to make to align their will with God's and turn away from sin.
@billlee21945 ай бұрын
Very well stated
@1ricky773334 жыл бұрын
The question really is, have you been born again? If you HAVE, you cannot lose your salvation.
@cryptojihadi2653 жыл бұрын
You can't "lose it" in the sense of having it taken but you certainly have the freedom to walk away"
@philipbuckley7593 жыл бұрын
try a book, by David Pawson...OSAS? where he tries to demonstrate, through the Bible, how someone can loose their salvation....
@raissidiatezwa17033 жыл бұрын
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. 5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
@ishaagni71993 жыл бұрын
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend To be honest I’m just very confused. On KZbin I’ve seen that many people have had rapture dreams and in those dreams they got left behind. Now it seems like many of them had to repent for certain things but it seemed like they were godly people who didn’t really realize the sins that were going on. But I just get confused because it’s like does that mean they were never saved in the first place?!??!?!?! Because if you get left behind weren’t you never saved???
@ishaagni71993 жыл бұрын
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend Im just not ready and I know we’re running out of time. I’ve felt pretty much nothing. Yeah yeah ik we don’t go off of feelings but it’s just annoying because I’ve never felt Gods presence or the Holy Spirit. It’s been a couple days since I’ve seriously decided to have a better relationship with God so I’m going to give it some time. It would be great if you could pray for me and let me know any suggestions:)
@zachariahisaiah17935 жыл бұрын
9/17/2017 God changed my heart forever and delivered me in one night. That night He delivered me from a bad cocaine addiction, pornography, a foul tongue, alcohol addiction and even cigarettes. At night I feel and hear demonic forces in my home and over my body. I anoint my head with oil and drop to my knees and purge myself from any "willing" or "hidden" faults. Then I go to war with the Kingdom of Darkness. If you "lost" your salvation then you was a just another one of the many "false" convert. True converts by the mercy and grace of God crawled out of the snares of death, disease, destruction, desolation and damnation and once given a taste of salvation, we would rather die than to give it up and turn back to the old man like a pig goes to his slop. 2 Cor. 5:17 God Bless, Brother Zachariah Isaiah
@lynette44124 жыл бұрын
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:20-22 KJV bible.com/bible/1/2pe.2.20-22.KJV
@erroll93864 жыл бұрын
G'day mate Errol here, i am 70 years old and i gave my life to Jesus at the age of 40. In the past 30 yrs i have seen many come and go, some that looked to be following Jesus with all their heart, now they are back to their old life worse than before. God has given us a free will and I believe that we can turn our back on God deny him and walk away.
@shuntymcfuggles36234 жыл бұрын
You are trusting your eyes and not the word of God, though Errol. God is clear "if they go out from us, they were never of us" - 1 John 2:19 They SEEMED like believers to you, but God knew their hearts, which is why they fell away. If anyone falls away, it's an insult to God to believe He lost them and wasn't strong enough to keep them. If you listen to this video again, the narrator does a great job of citing the Scriptures that point you directly to how we cannot fall away if we belong to God.
@lynette44124 жыл бұрын
Amen. Free Will allows for Believer's Freedom...To Endure to the End or To Stray...God creates NO ROBOTS. God takes no Hostages!!! All Glory be to God for His Genuine, Unconditional Love to us-ward!! 😊
@erroll93864 жыл бұрын
@@lynette4412 Thank you for sharing, i also thank the Lord everyday for his Genuine, Unconditional Love. God bless.
@shuntymcfuggles36234 жыл бұрын
@@lynette4412 God creates no failures. Phil 1:6 And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. If you endure - it's God's victory. If you fail - you were never His. He doesn't fail. Read the above verse carefully. 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. Also - there is not one, not a single verse that ever speaks of the free sovereign will of man. It does not mean we are robots, it just means God is so above your understanding that He can determine something and even if you exercise your will to try and change His plan, He will still get done exactly what He intended.
@erroll93864 жыл бұрын
@@shuntymcfuggles3623 God bless you mate, have a great week.
@blairconn20942 жыл бұрын
What a Godly man! I love what God is doing through you brother! Tim.
@MrKev16642 жыл бұрын
Christ be with you surely you saw how false this is come to Christ
@WicXed-1 Жыл бұрын
@@MrKev1664bro that’s funny because you have a false Christ profile picture
@MrKev1664 Жыл бұрын
@@WicXed-1 Christ be with you how do you know it's a picture of Jesus? you didn't prove anything he said was true. Thats the way with protestants because of the holes in their doctrine being built on a foundation of apathy Faith alone. Come to Christ
@karendavis70884 жыл бұрын
My life is a novel. I was raised in two “ cults” and we were up and down constantly with salvation. So many people suffered mental issues because of it. Thank you Jesus, that He reached us with His Grace before it was eternally too late❣️
@Daniel-dl6cu4 жыл бұрын
What did the cults say about salvation if you don't mind sharing?
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
Karen Davis You can’t lose your salvation. It’s not from our own doing. It’s a free gift of God.
@JimiSurvivor4 жыл бұрын
@@iicecourt00 The sacrifice of the Son was freely given to mankind by the Father. However, in order to receive the benefits of the atonement we must BELIEVE. If we do not we will not be saved. However, salvation depends not only on that FIRST step of faith. Afterward this step is supposed to become a continual WALK: "For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall LIVE by faith." (Romans 1:17) ............................................... Only by CONTINUING to live and walk by faith can we CONTINUE to enjoy forgiveness and cleansing that Christ bought for us (1 John 1:7-9). If we should choose to turn away from this walk of faith or even cease believing altogether we will not complete our journey and stand before Him: …21 Once you were alienated from God and were hostile in your minds because of your evil deeds. But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy, unblemished, and blameless IN HIS PRESENCE- 23 IF indeed you CONTINUE IN YOUR FAITH, established and firm, NOT MOVED from the hope of the GOSPEL you heard, (Colossians 1:22-23) IF introduces the condition which we must fulfill if we are to complete our journey and stand in His presence. However, God has already given us the power to do this in the Person of the Holy Spirit. ............................................... The idea that we must CONTINUE in faith is repeated in other scriptures: Take notice, therefore, of the KINDNESS and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you, IF you CONTINUE in His kindness. Otherwise you also will be CUT OFF. (Romans 11:22) The gift of the son was a great act of KINDNESS towards us on the part of God but we must CONTINUE in that kindness or else we will be CUT OFF from it. ............................................... To be CUT OFF from the Vine means that we no longer are SHARING His life. Without His life, we wither and die and, if we meet God in that condition, we will be burned: 6 If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the fire, and burned (John 15:6)
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
JimiSurvivor Salvation isn’t ongoing. If it was then what’s the purpose of sanctification. Salvation is said in done John 6:38-40 Romans 6:23 Hebrews 10:14-16 He said the "righteous" shall live by faith. He considers believers as righteous. Even if you remain faithless Jesus remains faithful He cannot deny Himself 2 Timothy 2:11-13
@JimiSurvivor4 жыл бұрын
@@iicecourt00 God considers believers to be righteous because they have been forgiven of their sins We are not under condemnation but we still have remain in Christ and walk in the Spirit to remain free from the power of sin. Even if you remain faithless Jesus remains faithful He cannot deny Himself 2 Timothy 2:11-13 You interpreted 2 Timothy 2:13 as if it stood in isolation of verse 12. Interpreting verse 13 as you have actually makes it CONTRADICT verse 12 which says "if we deny (reject, disown, repudiate) Him He will deny (reject, disown, repudiate) us." My interpretation remains true to the meaning of these words and it reconciles both verses.
@gretschpearl834 жыл бұрын
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:26-31 NKJV
@claymore19kilo3 жыл бұрын
Hebrews 6:4-6 King James Version 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. The Sin (For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins) that Hebrews is referring to is rejecting the Gospel of Salvation that is the only Sin that can not be forgiven. For rejecting Christ is the unforgivable Sin. So many times people use Hebrews wrongly to try to place people back under the law. When you hear the Gospel and accept its truth you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, and are saved. Therefore you can not fall away. this verse obliterates the "You can lose you salvation argument", because first it says "IMPOSSABLE", second it says if you reject that Gospel you can not earn your way thus reiterating all the scripture that confirms security. Every time you go back to the Law you are in fact crucifying' Christ all over again ignoring John 19:28-30 King James Version 30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. IT IS FINISHED, not its finished but, or its only slightly finished. in Romans 6:9-10, KJV "Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God." Gospel Period
@richardbarton61463 жыл бұрын
is this the vic firth that makes drum sticks??
@josephmiller12243 жыл бұрын
This verse is referring to unbelievers - not believers.
@richardbarton61463 жыл бұрын
@@josephmiller1224 No. actually this verse is addressing the hebrews that came to believe that Yeshua was their messiah and joined the Christians and followed for awhile, but turned away and went back to Judaism and left grace and lived back under the law, and trampled the son of Gods sacrifice on the cross as a common thing and believed the animal sacrifices in the temple was more value that Yeshua's blood on the cross!
@naa20243 жыл бұрын
Not all first century Christians were saved, even though they did taste the Holy Spirit.
@jertymarkt89715 жыл бұрын
““Son of man, tell your people: ‘The good things people did in the past will not save them if they become bad and begin to sin. In the same way the bad things people did in the past will not destroy them if they turn from their evil. So remember, the good things people did in the past will not save them if they begin to sin.’” Ezekiel 33:12 ERV
@artifacthunter14725 жыл бұрын
Jerty Markt this man Shirley knows nothing of predestination!! God chose his own church before the foundation of the earth to conform to the image of his son!
@esthermoses70054 жыл бұрын
I don't believe quoting Ezekiel 33:13 in response to this is appropriate because the eternal security bro. Allen speaks of is through Jesus Christ... Jesus had not died for us yet
@lynette44124 жыл бұрын
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Revelation 22:14-15 KJV bible.com/bible/1/rev.22.14-15.KJV
@lynette44124 жыл бұрын
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23 KJV bible.com/bible/1/1jn.3.23.KJV
@TheNthMouse4 жыл бұрын
Of course good deeds will not save those who begin to sin: good deeds will not save anyone. Only Jesus Saves.
@mattwalker138 Жыл бұрын
Amen. Listened to the first 30 sec just to make sure you said Yes, once saved always saved!
@JeffreyStrader7 жыл бұрын
I am saved because of the fact that Jesus finished the works upon the cross, thus securing my Salvation.
@believein16 жыл бұрын
You must be born again, REPENT from all sin, and trust in Christ as the reason for your salvation.
@strannick22126 жыл бұрын
Read the Gospel, and see what Christ says about sin, instead of twisting Paul. Sin boldly says Luther. Wonder what our Lord would say to that
@Meliasnusrey6 жыл бұрын
@@believein1 In order to be born again you have to believe in the fact that Jesus finished the works upon the cross. Repent either means feel sorry or change of mind {like changing from trusting in my works for salvation to trusting in the finished work of Christ alone}, it doesn't mean stop sinning.
@believein16 жыл бұрын
@@Meliasnusrey What exactly do you think a changing of mind means? If you continue sinning, clearly your mind has not changed. What you suggest is a doctrine of devils.
@Meliasnusrey6 жыл бұрын
@@believein1 I believe, "changing of mind means" stop looking to yourself and your works for salvation and to trust in the finished work of Christ. What do you mean by, "If you continue sinning, clearly your mind has not changed."? What do you mean by "What you suggest is a doctrine of devils."? I'm suggesting in just trusting in Christ for salvation, what are you trusting?
@judddavis35485 жыл бұрын
Ok, Buddy, ( good channel, I respect what you are doing) I just started watching this video and had to comment at 1:42 already ( and I will continue to watch afterward). You preface your statement of "once saved always saved" by saying; " Once you become a GENUINE follower of Jesus Christ ". THAT is where the issue begins in my humble opinion. We need to all have the same definition of what is a "Genuine follower of Christ' . 2 John in verse 8 says " 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.( end) Now, with that being said. Some people's experience in being saved involved nothing more than a guy asking someone " Are you saved?" and the person says " No". "Would you like to be"? " Yes". Then say this prayer and yahoo they are saved and they give it no thought ever again. To some, that is the experience that they have based their salvation on. That person may think that they are saved, but in reality, are they? Real salvation is when I fall to my knees and submit my will to the higher authority of God, telling him that I realize that on my own I have NO chance of salvation and that I accept the Blood of Christ to cover me and my sinful nature. Some people think that the prayer is like a magic spell or that God changes sin so it is not sinful anymore, FALSE. God changes the sinner and real faith is a faith that works and creates fruit. I am really studying this hard right now. We are surely saved by faith and the grace of the Lord but we do not still just wallow in our sins, we still wallow in sin because we have a sinful nature but we do not keep sinning ON PURPOSE and expect God to be happy with that can we? God made law and the penalty for breaking it was and IS death. So now when we become Christian we can break it with no consequence? Did Christ die so I could keep on sinning? This once saved always saved doctrine is a slippery slope. Every time I pray for clarity on these issues It seems God is telling me that the law is only dead for SALVATION. I will close with this my Friend and continue with the video, in Revelation when Jesus comes back, what does He find? It says He finds a one-world government, a one-world currency, an APOSTATE one world church and a remnant.. a remnant of His true believers that " Keep the commandments of God AND the faith of Jesus!
@applesauceapplesauce64314 жыл бұрын
Amen,Amen,and Amen........ Thee first person to break it down so simply for the confused people in the back.... Amen! Yes Lord use him! Your studying shows... GOD Bless!
@americancouriers99555 жыл бұрын
Thank you Allen, these videos keep me encouraged as a Christian man! Keep continue and our prayers to you and your family to give you the strength and endurance to keep running His race🙏🏿
@truthsayer6414 Жыл бұрын
Can a Christian lose Salvation? "If I can show your Catholic doctrines are false my belief in eternal security, sola fide/scriptura, Predestination, OSAS therefore win by default." The idea that a Christian can somehow achieve both salvation and “eternal security” instantaneously from just one mental commitment by simply declaring one’s faith and repentance to the Lord, has to be a statement of eternal optimism, rather than a claim to eternal security. It is the height of arrogance defying the 75 verses that how a committed Christian can lose their salvation. These "doctrines" were unknown in the Church for the first 1500 years, before Calvin and few scholars supported them. Look at all the great theologians of the Church like Origen, Augustine, Iraneous, Lucian, Aquinas and others who were familiar with such passages but NEVER made such a dangerous inference from any Scriptural passage. There are an abundance of warnings in Scripture however, of how salvation can be lost. If grace is ALL that’s needed and salvation cant be lost these warnings are utterly nonsensical. It is a common view among protestants who believe Salvation by faith alone but only a small minority who claim eternal security. Even Luther believed that a Christian can commit apostasy or grave sin and lose salvation! There are numerous examples of Christians who have renounced their faith and lost the grace of God. Some scholars however audaciously claim, that not even apostasy can cause loss of salvation. John 15:- For those faithful attached to the True Vine, they can clearly lose salvation if they fail to produce “good fruit. When Jesus speaks in parables it is to all ages. In the following quotes below , some protestants will claim, the passages are to either a select “unsaved” audience or in general to those who were never true Christians in the first place. For your Salvation's sake, the Vine Keeper can't cut off what wasn't attached in the first place!! Paul affirms JOHN 15 that the faithful may be "CUT OFF" He writes in Romans 11 "Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, PROVIDED you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off." 2 Peter 2:20, NIV: "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." Clearly if you have come to know the Lord but then fall back into the evil ways of the world, you will be worse off than those who do not know Christ. Luke 15: In the parable of the Prodigal Son, the Father will never turn his back on us but knows that its nearly always thru suffering and failure that we may come to seek forgiveness. If God has orchestrated or predestined our future before we were born, why would there be so much joy over one son/sheep who was lost than 100 ungrateful angry “faithful” followers? 2 Tim 2 IF we died with him, we will also live with him; 12 IF we endure, we will also reign with him. IFwe disown him, he will also disown us Hebrews 6 4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened,(the author was likely an eye-witness) who have tasted the heavenly gift, (received sanctification/grace!) who have shared in the Holy Spirit, (Baptised?) 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God (inspired by Scripture) and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away (gravely sinned), to be brought back to repentance (state of grace). Calvinists will claim this passage refers to a specific audience of Jews or uncommitted Christians. But no one who has read and understood the implications of John and Luke 15 could make that assumption. In the light of Jesus’ parables which chronologically predate the epistle, no one familiar with them could suggest that the Hebrews text is not a conformational warning for ALL “enlightened“ Christians and those to come of what might happen if they “fall away.” Hebrews 10 The author concludes that Christianity is consequently superior to Judaism. The Christians are then warned against apostasy and the “fearful prospect of judgment” (10:27) that awaits “those who have spurned the Son of God” (10:29). They are urged to persevere in their faith following the heroic example of others well known to them. The emphasis on Christ’s priestly mediation and statements on faith and the Mosaic Law are not typical of other Pauline writings 26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”[e] it is rather tragic and sad when some Christians make the text fit their theology rather than vice versa. Such I believe is the minority view of unconditional or eternal security. I believe there are many instances that the text says salvation can be lost in the following passages: Heb 6 4 It is impossible for those who have tasted the goodness of the word of God….. to be brought back to repentance (state of grace). Heb 10 26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, John 15 “IF you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; 10 IF you keep my commands, you will remain in my love….. IF you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 2 Peter 2:20, NIV: "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." Do I need to show more examples of warnings in Scripture of how salvation can be lost? No one with an openmind could read these passages and claim they refer to false or uncommitted Christians who may be tempted and fall away. Why would a born again need to pray daily for the grace of God to save us from temptation, IF only a TRUE believer has eternal security and cant fall away how can anyone belive ? Moreover, think about the Jesus CHOSE 12 disciples who all initially accepted him as true believers, but one after several years through temptation and greed chose to sell him out. Another chose to deny him three times. What does this say about loss of salvation and eternal security?. None of the great theologians of the Church like Origen, Augustine, Eranaus, Lucian, Aquinas and Luther who all knew such passages believed in unconditional salvation. Yes, some people who were never saved may fall away but one cant say all followers like Peter were never saved. See Rom 11:22 ....... also "it is the one who endures to the end who will be saved."(Matt 10:22) and "they believe for a while then in times of temptation, they fall away." Luke 8:13 Care to comment on these passages? "IF we hold fast to the Word I preach to you?" 1 Cor 3:15 Paul was clearly concerned about his followers who might return to former sinful ways that might lose them salvation, right? So may I ask are you a Calvinist who believes in eternal security? The path to salvation is a battlefield of fighting the good fight, keeping the faith and staying in the race, as Paul said to Timothy so that the reward is his. "Faith without GOOD WORKS is dead" faith! Where in the Sermon on the Mount did Jesus say "bless are those whose faith alone has saved them, for the Kingdom of God is theirs." Everything about his life and those of the disciples was about WORKS! Those who stand, stand by God's Grace, Those who fall, fall by their own freewill!
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
OSAS is built on a FALSE premise: the word "saved" That word is not defined correctly by OSAS clergy. In the new testament there are 2 similar words ...salvation and saved. Salvation in the GREEK is soterion which means to deliver from. Saved in the GREEK is sozo. which means to heal, to make whole. A person who believes about the death, burial and resurrection of JESUS..or accepts the gospel or JESUS , or grace or forgiveness or pardon is not healed or transformed in character just by acceptance or assent to truth. JESUS teaches ,that the meek shall inherit the Earth, the pure in heart shall see God, a person's righteousness has to exceed that of the Pharisees. Heb 12:14..one must be holy. ALSO God's forgiveness is void if one does not forgive others . MATT 6 , MATT 18 See parable of soils and.....the word "IF" in the bible!!!!! THEN….. look at 1 COR 9:27 where PAUL , of ALL people, does not have eternal security. He explains in the next chapter. Then there is JUDE, 2 PET 2, Heb 6 & 10 OSAS is for the deceived bible ignorant.
@lonleyndn4 жыл бұрын
"...Go and sin NO MORE" (Jesus)
@lonleyndn4 жыл бұрын
@Natalie Arlene Jesus, "the same today, yesterday and forever"... Twist that.
@lonleyndn4 жыл бұрын
@Natalie Arlene "Little children sin not..." (Jesus). Is that twisted too? I can keep quoting for you, These were from Christ Himself...
@graftme31684 жыл бұрын
@@lonleyndn Jesus didn't change, but His covenant did!
@lonleyndn4 жыл бұрын
@@graftme3168 Everything that I have quoted is from The New Testament friend...
@graftme31684 жыл бұрын
@@lonleyndnGod said in the Old Testament that He would make a new covenant that is not like the old Covenant. And, that is what He did when Christ died and rose from the dead. The new testament tells us that we can't live by the old covenant but by the new. It tells us that living by the old covenant will bring death, but living by the Holy Spirit brings life. So, to say that the covenant hasn't changed is exactly contrary to what scripture tells us.
@bilqn4eto7774 жыл бұрын
Hi Allen, I will reply to this, as you asked - with a scripture. I think it speaks well enough for itself: "For it is impossible to BRING BACK TO REPENTANCE (Meaning there has been one previously), those who were once enlightened - those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the power of the age to come - and who THEN TURN AWAY from God. It is impossible to bring such people back to repentance; by rejecting the Son of God, they themselves are nailing him to the cross once again and holding him to public shame. When the ground soaks up the falling rain and bears a good crop for the farmer, it has God's blessing. But if a field bears thorns and thistles, it is useless. The farmer will soon condemn that field and burn it." Hebrews 6:4-8
@isaiahfoulidis33632 жыл бұрын
Exactly. All the other scriptures I am seeing in the comments do not at all confirm that you can't turn away. These people are too eager for grace and not eager enough for the truth.
@KeeperOfThe102 жыл бұрын
We are studying this now. The parable about the fig tree is another example. It must bear [righteous] fruit or it will be cut down. But people will believe what they want to believe.
@stedebone5 жыл бұрын
Amen and Amen! Thank you Alan. I have been struggling with this doctrine for many years, due to watching videos of people claiming to see Christians suffering in hell! I think I can finally feel secure in my faith in the finished work of my beloved saviour Jesus Christ!!
@lightninlad5 жыл бұрын
That’s right, listen to Allen. Not the people who saw Christians going to Hell with their own eyes. 🙄
@robertteague63425 жыл бұрын
Steve you are still struggling with this doctrine because Allen is wrong. You can lose your salvation. Please watch this video for the real and scriptural truth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIiVaa2plJWNjpI
@mattmccartney69952 жыл бұрын
"Without holiness no man will see the Lord." "Except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish."
@rare_one972 жыл бұрын
That still doesn’t prove you can lose your salvation. In order for that person to lose their salvation they have to have had it first which what brings the holiness, not of ourselves but of God because we believed on him. The scripture is for those who just stay in sin & never come to God.
@gregorylatta81592 жыл бұрын
No one who has not been imputed righteousness by faith in the work of Jesus will see God except to experience the wages sin meaning a sentence to Hell fire.
@gregorylatta81592 жыл бұрын
@@rare_one97 They just don't understand this most basic doctrine of the faith .They think they can do it themselves.
@Aperson-rs4eh2 жыл бұрын
@@rare_one97 revelations 22:19 says God will remove you from the book of life if you remove from his scripture. Only saved people get into the book of life. How can you get salvation removed if you're always saved?
@rare_one972 жыл бұрын
@@Aperson-rs4eh I’m not taking a away anything, So do you believe that you are securely saved. If you don’t believe in OSAS how u can you really have confidence that you are ? & what point can you possibly lose your salvation if you have not already have ? I’m not one of the people who claim osas & then live a life a without care of sin or faith just because I say believe in God. I believe in OSAS because I believe on what God word says, it’s scriptures that can be interpreted that one can lose their salvation but if you keep studying the scriptures over u would know that after awhile it’s talking about the apostates. The ones who never believe to begin with, really think about Matt 7:21 Jesus put more energy into saying “I never knew you” most of the time a person just say idk you but in that context those ppl where confess their works more than their beliefs etc. If you a true a Christian not sayin u not u should believe that u saved with confidence & that u will never lose it. If you do believe that you can’t lose it for yourself because u know how are with God then you can’t tell another that they can lose their because, you can’t see their heart.
@all_mine12333 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is biblical. There's lot's of evidence that we can't lose our salvation. Jesus said in John 5:24, "Truly truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who has sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed from death to life." That is exactly what salvation is, the process of crossing from spiritual death to spiritual life. That transaction cannot be undone, hence we cannot lose it. In Romans 6, Paul assures Christians that they have dies to sin of being "in Adam". This does not mean we have died to sinning. We all know that. He mentions this 11 times in Romans 6 in the following verses back to back, 6:2, "we died to sin." 6:6, "so that the body of sin would rendered powerless." 6:7, "no longer a slave to sin." 6:7, "we died to sin." 6:11, "count yourselves dead to sin." 6:14, "for sin shall not be your master." 6:17, "you used to be slaves to sin." 6:18, "you have bee set free from sin." 6:20, when you were slaves to sin." 6:22, "you have been set free from sin." 8:2, "you have been set free from the law of sin and death." There verses should seal the deal for a born-again Christian. Will you ever be an unbeliever again? Wil Jesus Christ ever leave you? Absolutely not! You have received the very life of Jesus Christ and have been marked by the holy spirit (Ephesians 1:13). Here are more verses to prove you can't lose salvation: Hebrews 6:18, 7:25, 13:5 Ephesians 1:13-14, 2:8 John 3:16, 5:24, 6:37-40, 10:28-29, 11:25-26 1 Peter 1:4-5 2 Timothy 2:13 Titus 1:2 Romans 8:35-39 To further help Christians know that they can't lose salvation, it's important to ask the question, "Why did Jesus take away our sins?" And yes, he did die to take our sins, but there's a second reason why Jesus died on the cross: So that the spirit of God would never leave we once we are saved. That is how the cross and resurrection go together. And that, my friends, is why once saved, always saved is true and biblical. God bless you all.
@randalkihei92613 жыл бұрын
all.mine123 you can repent of all your sins and be forgiven but there’s one sin JESUS said that you will never be forgiven of is blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT.
@pawfector94633 жыл бұрын
@@randalkihei9261 The born again follower of Christ won't commit that sin. "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." God chose us, we didn't choose Him.
@markrimedio50853 жыл бұрын
correct. Also how can a christian be an effective witness of they are not sure they are going ot heaven
@leviwilliams96013 жыл бұрын
@@randalkihei9261 The holy spirit lives with in the believer. That is not gonna happen with a regenerated believer.
@joe-cm4lz3 жыл бұрын
no, it’s not biblical i could literally walk away from God right now and not be saved there are also verses showing that we can lose our salvation. 1 Timothy 6:10 is one of those verses
@williamgerber36494 жыл бұрын
Loved your video. For some I suggest that it isn't that one can lose your salvation, but if you ever were saved in the first place. Matthew 7:21 and the parable of the sower comes to mind Matthew 13.
@JonAthan-lw4nm4 жыл бұрын
One of my greatest fears was losing everything. When I offered myself to Christ, my biggest fear became “what if I go back to my old ways?”. But I don’t think im afraid of that anymore because where there is love, there is God, where there is God there is love, and wherever there is love, I will follow.
@spnola96503 жыл бұрын
Watch this if you want to know the truth kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYXVaGl5Z9irf68
@alyssamayle40883 жыл бұрын
I do agree that once we are truly saved it will hurt us and our spirit if we keep sinning. But I don't believe in once saved always saved. I'm sorry but there are too many scriptures to back this up
@Corinthians-kjv3 жыл бұрын
JESUS CHRIST did all the work you didn't.
@timothyseals37913 жыл бұрын
@@Corinthians-kjv If Jesus did it all then everyone is going to heaven, correct?
@waynekasmar44013 жыл бұрын
@@timothyseals3791 You've got to humbly acknowledge in your heart that God did the work. Otherwise you will claim all the credit for yourself. You won't be going to heaven in these circumstances.
@JSK959 ай бұрын
Orthodox/Catholics argue that works is required to maintain salvation (and that it is possible to lose salvation). The general consensus among believers is that salvation is a free gift by the grace and mercy of God, and that none of us are good enough to deserve such gift regardless of how many good works we do. Yet, once we have received the wonderful gift of salvation by trusting in Jesus as our Lord and Savior, all of a sudden we're now good enough somehow to maintain this gift through good works? Something we weren't even good enough to deserve it in the first place?
@nathanielwoodward96273 жыл бұрын
God bless you for this, I have been with this doubt of my salvation for months, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I still struggle with time to time, but thank you nonetheless for clearing this up.
@r3v0016 жыл бұрын
Whoa, did not expect such a strong reaction to my initial question below. I have another question for the OSAS crowd. Does a person still have freewill after they have a genuine conversion? I have a Jesus style question. Why do the Apostles send warnings about hell to people that have genuinely accepted Christ?
@RemnantRoad6 жыл бұрын
Actually yes, the warnings are to born again believers as per the context of the books.
@paulrock48166 жыл бұрын
where? remember just Lot. 2 Peter 2:7, at least I give vs. (Lot) really had sex with his kids...ewwwwwww.
@chaboi76 жыл бұрын
Paul Rock his daughters got him drunk and raped him, did you even read the story?
@chaboi76 жыл бұрын
Victor Funk notice how they wont answer these question lol
@catholic4ever4476 жыл бұрын
Even Jesus, throughout the NT, tells people that they must confess their sins to one another. Why would He warn people of the consequences of sin? Did He lie??? You still have to follow the Ten Commandments! Revelation says “Nothing unclean shall enter.” That doesn’t sound like once saved always saved.
@jimkraft94455 жыл бұрын
Why so many believe they are saved by what they do instead of what Jesus has done for us. Romans 11:6 It is all grace, not works, if it was by works, then it would not longer be grace, and if by grace, it is no more work. You can not mix law/works with grace. If you add one thing a person has to do to be saved, then it is all works and no grace. And no one can save themselves. We can only be saved. Romans 4:5-8 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. People who believe you can lose your salvation are trusting in their works, and not Jesus Finished work on the cross. They have never done the will of His Father. Matthew 7:21-23 Many will come to me on that day and call me Lord, and tell me about all their good works. Jesus says, Depart from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. Jesus tells us in verse 21 why these people believed they were saved, but they were lost.. They never did the will of His Father. What is the will of His Father? John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Salvation by works never works. We can only be saved by faith alone in Christ alone plus nothing. No works. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Free gift. No works. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace ye are saved, through FAITH, and that not of yourselves, (we did nothing for it) it is the GIFT of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. Those boasters that told Jesus about all their good works, never said one thing about Him dying and paying their sin debt in full so that they would not have to go to hell to pay for their sins. They never believed Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. They never trusted in His AMAZING GRACE, they trusted in their own works to save themselves. Not what Jesus did for us. John 6:29 Jesus, answered, and said unto them, this is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE ON THE ONE HE HAS SENT. AMAZING GRACE, JESUS PAID IT ALL AND WE PAID 0. IT IS FREE, or not at all. Good works are fine, they just can not justify a sinner. Keeping Gods laws is good, it just can not save us. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE. No works, FREE GIFT. Our sin debt is paid in full and we can never be condemned again. John 3:18 Those that believe you can lose your salvation are trusting in what they do to save themselves and are not saved.
@DeeMoney-rj4rj4 жыл бұрын
jim kraft amen
@DeeMoney-rj4rj4 жыл бұрын
jim kraft also Romans 5:20
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
jim kraft amen
@alfredfungo21554 жыл бұрын
Amen brother!! Ive never looked at it like that. I always struggled with that verse when Jesus says I never knew you.
@jimkraft94454 жыл бұрын
See you in heaven. Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, First Corinthians 15:1-4, in whom also after ye believed ye were sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. Jesus knows you because you have believed on Him alone for the free gift of eternal life. John 3:18 Believers are no longer condemned.
@kingofthemultiverse41482 жыл бұрын
I once used to believe in "Eternal security" or the "once saved always saved" doctrine, but the more I studied the scriptures the more i realised this wasn't the case, I realised how difficult it was to continue holding on to that doctrine, I do believe that a Christian can lose his/her salvation through apostasy and I think that worldliness and continual sin can eventually cause a Christian to turn their back on God and that's what I believe Paul refers to when talking about the "falling away" in Hebrews 6:6 and what Peter talks about in 2 Peter 2:20-22, we have been clearly warned in scriptures about this matter.
@billlee21945 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree. You have the correct understanding. Salvation is something we must strive to hold on to daily by freewill cooperation with the grace of God won for us by the finished work of Jesus. Jesus' passion does not remove our freewill after we come to know Him like some teach. That's why Paul states 'work out your salvation in fear and trembling'. OSAS is a dangerous theology and lulls many into thinking the blood of Jesus will simply cover their sins. Some simply are taught to ignore the warning verses or to attribute them to others but not to themselves.
@jonathan7115 ай бұрын
A good way to think about this is that when we are unsaved we are bobbing up and down, treading water in a big ocean. Jesus rescues us and takes us out of the ocean and puts us on a boat. We are safe there. He will never throw us in the ocean. And on this boat, no one else is able to throw us back in either. But you can choose to jump back in the ocean if you so desire. Make sense?
@kingofthemultiverse41485 ай бұрын
@@jonathan711Yeah! it does make sense, you made a good analogy there.
@MaviLeb4 ай бұрын
False teacher
@kingofthemultiverse41484 ай бұрын
@@MaviLeb Who?
@jeffjohnson58774 жыл бұрын
Allen Parr Jr.: I like your videos. This video made me feel peace about my salvation. Sometimes I can't imagine how I am saved, but it has nothing to do with me, praise God.
@patriciaulbricht36434 жыл бұрын
James 2:24 You see that a Person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHvSYoKQmLGnoqM Best bible passage to refute once saved always saved. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaTccmtogM2el5I Millions of fake christians get wrong about Ephesians kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYLZc2N9p8aSbK8 Prove for rebirth through baptism.
@kelle02853 жыл бұрын
It's a very humbling experience. It draws me closer to Him.
@spnola96503 жыл бұрын
Watch these videos if you want to know the truth kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYXVaGl5Z9irf68 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjRfGOuo8l1oaM
@patriciaulbricht36433 жыл бұрын
You can research the shroud of turin that is a miraculous relique, or the picture of our Lady of Guadalupe that can not be of human origin either. Also, the eucharistic miracle of Lanciano was investigated scientificaly and baffles modern understanding. Jesus said to his disciples to eat his flesh snd drink his blood at the last supper, and to do it again in remembrance. He said that the bread is really his flesh, literally. Therefore the catholic priest consecrates the host in the eucharist, that it my in a mystic sense repeat the sacrifice of Jesus. And throzghout history hundreds of eucharist miracles are recorded and explored. The results are the same: the flesh is always that of an around 30-year old man, blood-Group AB, the cells are not cut and keep preserved thrpughout centuries which is actually "impossible". In 1917, in Fatima, 70 000 people witnessed the sun wonder, an atmospheric wonder, because oft the Holy Mother Mary, who gave messages to three children there, prophecies about the second world war, the spread of communism, the great apostasy (the greater part of the church authority lost faith, in fact), liturgical changes after 1960 ect. ("Fatima Crusaders", "The Remnant") If there is a rightousness that is also inscribed into our conscious, it must have reason. Every sin, according to the faith, is an offense to the Infinite Good, God, who created man out of His love that he might love him in return, see what is good and do it, and avoid evil. All that happens, our deeds included, have consequences. According to Jesus, hell is the consequence of unrepented sin. Many things point to the traditional catholic Church. Luther revolted out of personal reasons: he was unable to cope with his own sin. Hete sone quotes of Luther who "invented" the protestant ideas that this KZbinr uses: Christ taught: "If you wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. " Matt 19:17 Luther in speaking of the commandments teaches: "Their only purpose is to show man his impotence to do good and to teach him to despair of himself." Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism, Volume lll "It does not matter what people do; it only matters what they believe." Erlangen Vol. 29, Pg. 126 "If we allow them - the commandments - any influence in our conscience, they become a cloak of all evil, heresies and blasphemies." Comm. ad Galat, p. 310 Christ taught: "Be therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves." Matt 10:16 "You know than how to discern the face of the sky, and you can not know the signs of the times?" (Matt 26:3) Luther teaches: "No good work happens as the result of one`s own wisdom; nur everything must happen in a stupor... Reason must be left behind for it is the enemy of faith. " Tischreden, Weimer Vl, 143, 25-35 "Reason is the devils handmaid and does and does nothing but blaspheme and dishonor all that God says or does." Against The Heavenly Prophets, On Images And Sacraments "Reason is directed opposed to faith, and one ought to let it be; in believers it should killed and buried." Erlangen, Vol 44 "A person that is baptized cannot, thou he would, lose his salvation by any sins however grieveous, unless je refuses to believe. For no sins can damn him but unbelief alone." The Babylonian captivity. It's worth mentioning on this point that Luther himself had early written: "Pray for me I am falling into the abyss of sin." - Enders, Vol 3, Pg. 193 "Be a sinner, and let your sins we strong, but let your trust in Jesus be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this place is not where justice resides... No sin can separate us from him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day." 'Let your sins be strong' from 'The Wittenberg Project', 'The Wartburg Segment', translated by Erika Flores, from Dr. Martin Luther`s Sämmtliche Schriften, Letter No. 99,1 Aug. 1521 - Also Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism "Do not ask anything of your conscience, and if it speaks, no not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes." J. Dollinger Christ taught: " Let your light shine bevor men, that they may see your good works and glorify your father who is in haeven." Matt 5:16 There are also many warnings in scripture that warns against falling away from salvation. (Gal 4:9, Col 1:23, Tim 1:19, 4:1, Heb 3:12-14, 12:14-15, 2 Peter 2:20-21, Apoc 2:4-5) Christ taught (in the words of St. James) "What shall it profit, my brethren, if a he has faith, but has no works? Shall faith be able to save him? So faith also, if it has not works, us dead in itself." James 2:14-17 Luther: "It is better to guard against good works than against sin." Trischreden, Wittenberg Edition, Vol. Vl., p 160 "God works are bad and are sin like the rest." Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism Vol. Ill "There is no scandal greater more dangerous, more venomous, than a good outward life, manifested by good works and a pious mode of life. That is the grand portal, the highway that leads to damnation." Denifle "He that says the Gospel requires works for salvation, I say, flat and plain, is a liar." Tischreden, P. 137 Christ taught: "Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill." Luther teaches: "Peasants are no better than straw. They will not hear the word and they are without sense; therefore they must be compelled to hear the crack of the whip and the whiz of the bullets and it is only what they deserve." Erlangen Vol. 24, pg. 294 (I thank Lua Tran) God bless you. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.
@bakarangerpinku5 жыл бұрын
The fact that he can literally blot names out of His book of life, tells me that, yes, you can lose your salvation. Oh, but once you’re saved, you’re always saved, doesn’t that just sounds so good? It almost sounds too good to be true 😂
@wlonsdale15 жыл бұрын
bakarangerpinku then god is a liar and a cosmic child abuser because you chosen before you were born
@rickarmstrong38494 жыл бұрын
@@wlonsdale1 Matthew 22:14 (Many are Chosen, But few are called)
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
Rick Armstrong before taking words out of context read "All" of 1 Corinthians 6 9-11
@Romans8-94 жыл бұрын
@@iicecourt00 What about it? The Holy Spirit will convict a saved person if he does any of those things.
@mikemyerspaids67754 жыл бұрын
Where can u find in the Bible supports Once saved always saved no the Bible teach us to remain faithful till the end 🙏.
@roc6764 жыл бұрын
Matthew 24:13 King James Version 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
@TheNthMouse4 жыл бұрын
Amen: keep on believing in the completed work of Christ, unto the end - that's the key to salvation: Jesus Saves.
@lightninlad4 жыл бұрын
TheNthMouse No, man is not justified by faith alone: (James 2:24) “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” Saying that we must be justified by works is NOT saying that we are “saving ourselves”. It just means that in addition to being a gift, eternal life is ALSO A REWARD(Romans 2:6-7). That’s what you Once Saved Always Saved folks don’t realize-it is a reward/gift at the same time.
@theLuminaryAI4 жыл бұрын
@@lightninlad James 2:24 James 2:24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. James continues to make the case that those who truly trust in God naturally end up participating in good works. As James showed in prior verses, no one can be saved by good works. Works are not required for salvation-they are a "symptom" of saving faith. In verse 22, he used the Greek word eteleiōthē to explain good works as the "completion," or the natural end result, of saving faith. James is urgently making the case that all those who are saved through faith by God's grace will participate in good works. It is in that spirit that James writes that a person is "justified" by works and not by faith alone. In verse 21, James used the concept of "justification," which some see as a contradiction to Paul's use of "justification" in passages such as Romans 4. Here, it is common for a reader to assume a contradiction with Romans 3:28: "For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law." It's important to remember two things, however. First, James is not claiming works are required for salvation. His entire argument has been about what kind of faith actually saves. He is on the attack against the attitude that one can be saved by a faith that has no works. He has stated repeatedly that such a faith is dead, useless. He is not saying that faith is not the means through which we receive God's grace; he is saying that a so-called-"faith" which results in no actions is not a genuine faith. A "works-less" faith cannot justify anyone. The other thing that is important to remember is this: James has been consistent in upholding faith as necessary for salvation. This includes his quote in verse 23 that Abraham was counted as righteous for believing God. Context is the key to all Bible study, and especially for resolving apparent contradictions. In Paul's writings, it is clear he is describing "justification" in the sense of salvation: being declared righteous by God. James, according to this context, is referring to "justification" in the sense of proof for human beings. Faith saves, says James, but "saving faith" cannot be a mere intellectual opinion, which produces no resulting actions. God bless
@earthsiege774 жыл бұрын
Matthew 24 is all about tribulation saints and has nothing to do w/ the church age. Read John 6:37
@lightninlad4 жыл бұрын
Phillip C. Huh? The tribulation takes place at the END of the Church age. It isn’t it’s own age. This isn’t a three-“age” system. So yes, it’s for the Church Age.
@AnswersfortheEndTimes3 жыл бұрын
Brother Allen, I agree with most of your teaching. In fact, you are doing a GREAT work in these last days that you MUST continue with all due diligence. NO sin can sever us from Christ - He paid for it all on Calvary's cruel cross. Notwithstanding, God will NEVER override man's free will. If, like Judas, we believe in and follow Christ and later turn away, He will honor our decision to apostatize. It's not a matter of sin, rather free will and choice. Hebrews 6:4-8 makes that abundantly clear. The word for "fall away" in verse 6:6 is PARAPIPTO, meaning to knowingly turn away and reject/return the free gift of salvation that we once embraced. You can never LOSE your salvation - however you CAN premeditatedly walk away. Keep up your critical ministry! And God bless and guide you in all things.
@FrDavid-wy2qt4 жыл бұрын
BIBLE VERSES INDICATING WE CAN LOSE SALVATION: Galatians 5:19-21: "Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these. I am warning you, as I warned you before: those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." Hebrews 10:26-27: "For if we willfully persist in sin after having received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries." Hebrews 6:4-6: "Since therefore it remains open for some to enter it, and those who formerly received the good news failed to enter because of disobedience, again he sets a certain day- 'today' ..." 2 Peter 2:20-22: "For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overpowered, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than, after knowing it, to turn back from the holy commandment that was passed on to them." Romans 11:22: "Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness toward you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off." 1 Corinthians 9-10: "Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers-none of these will inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 6:7: "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow." Mathew 25:44-46: "Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.'" Mathew 7:22-23: "On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?’ Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.’" Mark 10:17-19: "'Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?' Jesus said to him, 'Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone. You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; You shall not defraud; Honor your father and mother.’” Mathew 6:14-15: "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." 1 John 3:15: "All who hate a brother or sister are murderers, and you know that murderers do not have eternal life abiding in them." James 2:12-13: "For judgment will be without mercy to anyone who has shown no mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment." Christ love you, brother. I appreciate your humility and kindness! Fr. Dave
@TheRemnant84 жыл бұрын
You’re leaving out the fact that it’s Gods Spirit that empowers us not to sin and we must cooperate with Him, just because you backslide doesn’t mean you loose relationship with Him, He will correct you in Love... you cannot lose what you didn’t earn..
@FrDavid-wy2qt4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRemnant8 Thank you! Can you please quote a Bible verse that says exactly what you just said? Christ love you all!!! Fr. Dave
@TheRemnant84 жыл бұрын
David Wilkins, sure no problem, I can say OSAS is true because I’ve backslide many times in my past and I’ve always come back to God because He would rebuke me or draw me to Himself.. His great love for us doesn’t depend on anything we can do or can’t do, the whole point of Jesus coming to earth was to save us from ourselves, and keep us.. if we could keep His commandments and salvation on our own then the whole point of Jesus & the Holy Spirit coming down to all people being sealed in our spirit was pointless, if we can go to Heaven because of how good we were, then you can boast before God “look how good I’ve been”, anyway here’s a few of many scriptures... to back up what I’ve stated Jonah 1:1-3 Jonah Tries to Run Away from the Lord The Lord spoke his word to Jonah, son of Amittai. He said, “Leave at once for the important city, Nineveh. Announce to the people that I can no longer overlook the wicked things they have done.” Jonah immediately tried to run away from the Lord by going to Tarshish. He went to Joppa and found a ship going to Tarshish. He paid for the trip and went on board. He wanted to go to Tarshish to get away from the Lord. (And we all know how this ends) Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Hebrews 12:4-11 New International Version God Disciplines His Children 4 In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.(A) 5 And have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It says, “My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline, and do not lose heart(B) when he rebukes you, 6 because the Lord disciplines the one he loves,(C) and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.” 7 Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children.(E) For what children are not disciplined by their father? 8 If you are not disciplined-and everyone undergoes discipline(F)-then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. 9 Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits(G) and live!(H) 10 They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness.(I) 11 No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace(J) for those who have been trained by it. Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. Romans 9:16 English Standard Version So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. Romans 8:30 New International Version And those he predestined,he also called;those he called, he also justified;those he justified, he also glorified. Ephesians 1:4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love Much love brother
@michaelalbertson74574 жыл бұрын
@@TheRemnant8 I think the important thing in us is, do we have the witness from God that we are saved? Believing the scriptures is not enough. God has to witness it in our hearts. The witness of God will bring peace to our being. Yet we still have to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Seems contradictory, but it isn't. If mirrors real life. Slack off and trouble looms that hadn't been there and you let it overcome you. Trouble that you had previously dealt with with God's help and leading. James 1:22, also.
@threegrounds35664 жыл бұрын
@@TheRemnant8 Sema Echad is right, you seem to be applying wishful thinking to the verses you listed.
@focusbendsreality3694 жыл бұрын
Few false doctrines are more dangerous than the Calvinistic assertion of “eternal security” or “once saved, always saved.” Sadly, this dangerous doctrine flatly contradicts Scripture, and it is commonly used as a smokescreen to justify sinful lifestyles. In other words, “once saved, always saved” appeals to the most carnal leanings of our humanity. It gives false legitimacy for sin, false comfort to sinners, and builds a pseudo-biblical barrier between countless sinners and repentance. Let’s put it this way; nothing can force you to separate yourself from God except you. Satan can’t make you do it any more than he made Eve do it. Eve exercised her free will. Adam exercised his free will. And they both suffered the consequences of their actions. Sin separates us from a right relationship with God, but it does not remove us from the love of God. For example, “…(Romans 5:8).” God loves us even while we are in sin, but to say the cross made sin acceptable is to undermine the cross’s necessity in the first place completely. The phrasing shows Paul’s assumption that believers would naturally understand sinful lifestyles must be discarded after salvation. Furthermore, the apostle Peter calls us to follow in the footsteps of Jesus, (1 Peter 2:21-22).” A few verses down, he underscores that Jesus “(1 Peter 2:24-25).” "...Go and sin NO MORE" (Jesus) James 4:4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. Wrong understanding of Grace: "Grace gives you the freedom to sin." Right understanding of Grace: "Grace gives you the power NOT to sin." We don’t do good works to become saved, we do good works because we are saved. OSAS is not Biblical. Please study your Bibles vs listen to man.
@clarenceoliveriii4 жыл бұрын
Yo you spit that from the Bible so clearly💯👀🔥and I would’ve used those same verses plus more!! It is so clear from the Bible when we read it. Glad you know the word women of God🙏🏽
@abideintheWord4 жыл бұрын
Glory to God. This doctrine is leading many away you said it. I’m exposing this wicked false doctrine over on my channel. Check it out and be blessed!
@connorkilby45983 жыл бұрын
I'd say that yes, once you are saved you are always saved. If, for instance, you continue to live a life of sin (and that of course, is only between you and God, yet can be highlighted by others in love), then I would say that possibility you were never saved to begin with. But even then, we are led into the dangerous territory of, ok so what is the bar? So if someone tells white lies as a 'Christian' and someone else is found to be continually cheating on their spouse as a 'Christian', then who is 'going to heaven'? By our standards, more likely the first person. By God's standards, none of them except if by Jesus which covers all sin, although yes we should still run from it. I pray that makes sense.
@abideintheWord3 жыл бұрын
@@connorkilby4598 there is a way that seems right to a man, but it’s end is death. It sounds right to our flesh to say that person must not have ever been saved. Unfortunately it’s just not what the Bible says. The Bible says that someone who is truly saved and forgiven can in fact lose their salvation. Jesus taught this in Matthew 18:23-35 when he tells the story of a guy who was forgiven of all of his debt but because he refused to forgiven his fellow servant then all of his forgiveness was revoked. Then Jesus said to his disciples this would happen to them as well if they didn’t obey Him. Check it out and come out of your deception.
@jafethuerta3 жыл бұрын
@@abideintheWord We find the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant only in Matthew 18:23-35. The Apostle Peter had asked how many times one should forgive, "Till seven times?" and Jesus answered, "Not seven times but seventy times seven" (Matthew 18:21-22). The context of this passage is Jesus teaching His disciples about the "kingdom of heaven." We can take some very important principles from this parable and apply them to our lives today. The servant whose lord forgave him much, ten thousand talents, equivalent to several millions of dollars, was unwilling to forgive another servant who owed him a hundred denarii. A denarius was a day’s wage and was worth approximately sixteen cents. Therefore, compared to what the first servant was forgiven, this was a very small amount. The principle here is, "the one forgiven much should forgive much." In other words, the principle of forgiveness is that grace or forgiveness to another is without limit. The disciples are not to count the number of times they forgive. Rather, as the parable teaches, they are to forgive much because God has forgiven much. In the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant, Jesus is presenting a new principle that is similar to the basis of the forgiveness command for believers found in Ephesians 4:32, "And be ye kind to one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you." Jesus is teaching His disciples pre-cross, and therefore in the pre-church age, but the basis for forgiveness is the same. Because God has forgiven us, we are to forgive each other. Therefore, because we have received much grace, "while we were yet sinners Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8), we are commanded to give that same grace to others. In the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant, the first servant’s debt was forgiven, and he was not required to repay until his unforgiving nature was discovered. In contrast, our sin debt was paid in full by Christ and is the only basis for God’s forgiveness. We cannot repay our debt to God or earn our salvation. It is a gift of grace (Ephesians 2:8-9). Therefore, in the Parable of the Unforgiving / Unmerciful / Unjust Servant, Jesus is teaching His disciples, and us by extension, that forgiveness should be in like proportion to the amount forgiven. The first servant had been forgiven all, and he then should have forgiven all. In like manner, a child of God by faith through Christ has had all sins forgiven. Therefore, when someone offends or sins against us we should be willing to forgive him from a heart of gratitude for the grace to which we ourselves are debtors. So, yeah... once your saved.... your always saved. Stop preaching add-ons to salvation 😉
@RoniiiB7 жыл бұрын
I agree , I believe someone thinking they can lose salvation is very prideful and self righteous,we are saved because of what God did We are not saved by what we do If you are a true believer sealed and regenerated by the Holy Spirit you can't lose salvation God will continue the work he started in you ! Where does the line draw when we lose salvation If you text and drive your sinning If you run a red light your sinning If you go to the store and pick up a item and don't put it back in the right place your Sinning If it's 4:58pm and someone asked what time is it ,if you say 5:00pm your sinning We can't repent of ever single sin that happens if that was the case we would repent ever second of the day If you don't love your neighborhood and God 24/7 your sinning If you over eat your sinning If u spend money you don't have and go into a lot of debt wasting money your sinning The Holy Spirit does most of the work we just follow Are works do matter Works as in "praying,worship,fasting and fellowship" all of this goes along with faith because we do these things to stay close to God God will discipline his real children
@joesteele31596 жыл бұрын
Sin is a condition of the heart; not of actions. A sinful heart leads to sinful action. It is willing rebellion against God. Saying it's 5:00 when it is 4:58 is not a sin. That is straining at nats and swallowing camels. And it matters not what people think or believe, it matters what the Word of God says. The truth is not determined by what we believe. There is plenty of scripture pointing to the fact that a person can give away their relationship with God and be damned.
@joesteele31596 жыл бұрын
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Hebrews 6:4-6
@joesteele31596 жыл бұрын
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:20-22
@joesteele31596 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to sound argumentive or anything but it is the duty of all Christians to correct and reprove one another. It wouldn't be love if we didn't. Also we are charged by God to be his watchmen and will be held accountable for not giving warning to others. God bless.
@JimiSurvivor6 жыл бұрын
cheron buchanon a. "I believe someone thinking they can lose salvation is very prideful and self-righteous, we are saved because of what God did We are not saved by what we do This is interesting since EVERY orthodox teacher, apologist, author, and theologian for the first 1600 years (back to the First Century) taught that Christians could fall away from the faith. Even Augustine and Luther did not believe in OSAS as it is currently taught. Are all of these people throughout history "prideful and self-righteous" Because they did not teach OSAS. Conversely is EVERYONE who teaches OSAS humble and self-effacing? Surely you are not going to make that generalization. b. "If you are a true believer sealed and regenerated by the Holy Spirit you can't lose salvation God will continue the work he started in you" Although you did not cite any scripture this seems to come from Philippians 1:6: "being confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will continue to perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus." If you read this scripture in the context you will see that Paul was not saying that the work God begins in EVERY believer INEVITABLY continue and reach completion. What he said was he was CONFIDENT (or PERSUADED) that it would in the case of the Philippians. Paul went on to give REASONS this belief and none of it had anything to do with a belief in OSAS. In part, his confidence was based upon the Philippian's active long-term partnership with him in the ministry of the gospel "...always making the supplication with joy in my every supplication for all of you, for your PARTNERSHIP in the GOSPEL from the first day UNTIL NOW, He had other reasons as well: "Accordingly, it is right for me to feel this about all of you since I have you in the heart. Both in my chains and in the DEFENCE and CONFIRMATION of the gospel, you all are fellow PARTAKERS OF GRACE with me. (Philippians 1:4-7) c. It looks to me like the Philippians were very well grounded in truth and grace. This is the reason for Paul's confidence that they would continue on in the Faith. He says nothing about a belief that they would continue because of OSAS? If THAT had been the real reason for his confidence then would he have not said so in the passage? Also if OSAS had been the basis for his belief that "the work that had begun in them would continue until the Day of Christ Jesus" then he would have had the same confidence for ALL the believers under his care but he was NOT at all CONFIDENT about whether the Galatians would continue in the faith: "But now, having known God, but rather having been known by God, how do you TURN AGAIN to the weak and destitute principles, to which you desire to be ENSLAVED again anew? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I fear for you, lest perhaps I have toiled for you IN VAIN. (Galatians 4:9-11) If Pauls "labors" had saved the Galatians from damnation and brought them into onto a path that would lead them UNCONDITIONALLY into eternal joy I hardly see how could say his work was "in VAIN." On the other hand, if they were turning backward I could easily see how he would be concerned. Being "enslaved AGAIN" is the inverse from being freed from slavery through salvation. d. "We are not saved by what we do" If by "works" you mean meritorious works of the LAW (like circumcision, eating kosher, keeping feast days) then I agree because these are not required under the New Covenant. It is to this KIND of ACTION that Paul is referring when he contrasts "works" and faith in the work of salvation. However, when James, speaks of WORKS he does not mean this kind of action. Instead, he means "acts of obedience" The word of faith cannot save us unless it is accompanied by an obedient response of the will.
@jerrynash78862 жыл бұрын
I got into a fb dog fight with some listeners concerning pre-election. I came very close to saying to God, "good bye". Believing that with the horrible sins I've committed in the past, I must not be one of them. Thank you Allen for you contributions to clarifying the Word in a simpler to understand manner.
@aletheia80542 жыл бұрын
Can relate to that.
@JimiSurvivor2 жыл бұрын
Obviously a lot of people are not willing to say mankind does not have the ability to believe the gospel and choose Christ.
@shaymay28922 жыл бұрын
A man told me he take a bullet for a lady, but let a brazen whorish woman die. Is that right? 1 Cor 6 9-11 It's your present, not your past.
@JimiSurvivor2 жыл бұрын
We can say that anyone who has not departed from sin does not love the Lord Jesus and has no part in the Kingdom
@ad14404 жыл бұрын
Salvation is permanent, but we hv a responsibility to repent and asked for forgiveness.
@richardbarton61464 жыл бұрын
If salvation is permanent than why do you have to repent?? or ask forgiveness??
@ad14404 жыл бұрын
Salvation doesn't stop sin..I repent out of obedience bc I'm still sinful. Salvation stop sin from being a barrier between me and God.
@richardbarton61464 жыл бұрын
The overcomer will be "saved!! But the one who does not will not be "saved"! His/her name can be blotted out of the book of life!! Revelations chapter 3 letter to the "dead church" James chapter 2 Faith without works is "dead"! if you have dead faith, your are dead spiritually!! so how could you get into heaven?? Just because you said the prayer of salvation years before, you still have "free will and can backslide so far, that you can choose to not repent and find your self in hell!
@ad14404 жыл бұрын
R u making a statement or asking a question 🤔
@quentoncollins88614 жыл бұрын
@@richardbarton6146 James 1: 1 literally says that it's written to the 12 tribes of Israel. Are you a Jew? If you're not - go to Paul. He's the apostle of the Gentiles (and to the Jew first). And he specifically says you're saved by faith and not by works lest any man should boast. As far as Revelations goes read 2 Timothy 1:15. Paul says all which are in Asia are not following his doctrine. Revelation's 7 churches as well could be referring to 7 literal churches in the time of the Tribulation where the dispensation of Grace has passed. 2 Timothy 2:15 - Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. You need to rightly divide the word. Otherwise you'll get a bunch of contradictory verses. All of the Bible is for you to read, but not all of it is *to* you. We're in the Church Age/Dispensation of Grace. Follow Paul your apostle.
@janiceb37915 жыл бұрын
I love your teachings and happen to agree with all that you've said except for the once saved always saved doctrine - reason being Hebrew 6: 4-6 "For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt". Unless my interpretation of this passage is incorrect I believe a true believer for whatever reason, can turn away from God and loose their salvation . Continue with the excellent teachings - you are a blessing!
@NefeshKaYAHMuzik4 жыл бұрын
Seems people will overlook this truth. OSAS is a lie from the pits of hell. Lukewarm believers cling to it, because they have tickling ears. They try and make the most high in their image. Anyone who teaches OSAS is a false shepherd, and will answer for it at judgement. People who fall for it are without excuse, because they suppose to study their word.
@chmurray46444 жыл бұрын
Read some commentary on that verse
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
HalleluYAH Praise YAHUAH Keep working for your salvation. Best of luck to you. Since trusting alone in Christ isn’t enough I’ll go with (Ephesians 2:8-9) and all 60+ verses that deal salvation through Christ alone
@MD-tr1yv4 жыл бұрын
God bless you for your comment! I’m reading commentary from my KJV study Bible, and it is saying that in Hebrews 6 this refers to a hypothetical situation of what would happen to a saved person if they could fall away.
@candicetrim96273 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite verse which also confirms that we cannot lose our salvation is Romans 8:38-39. It reads, ““For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8:38-39 NIV Nothing and no one can separate us from God’s love which is in Christ Jesus.
@winterpatriot14292 жыл бұрын
Yep, but silly man tries to pollute that by saying we can voluntarily leave God. When He says nothing can pluck us from Him, that also means that we, ourselves, cannot pluck ourselves from Him. Not a license to live in sin, but rather eternal security that when we do stumble or struggle and fall to temptation, we still belong to Him.
@TheBibleSays2 жыл бұрын
■ "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:" (2 Timothy 2:12) Note the "IFs" regarding the holy spirit: ■ "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." (Romans 8:13,14) Note the "IF" regarding abiding in Jesus: ■ "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6) Note the IF regarding returning to unrepentance and willful sin: ■ "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." (Hebrews 10:26,27) Note the if - the consequence - of not remaining "in His goodness" or grace: ■ "For if God spared not the natural branches [the Israelites], take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." (Romans 11:21,22) Note the warning: ■ "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1)
@winterpatriot14292 жыл бұрын
@@TheBibleSays 2 Tim 2:13, “If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself.”
@winterpatriot14292 жыл бұрын
@@TheBibleSays Eph 1:13-14, “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
@TheBibleSays2 жыл бұрын
@@winterpatriot1429 He remains faithful to His word: *if we come to Him,* He will not deny us. John 6:37
@DavidRobledo222 жыл бұрын
So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified." What would Paul be worried about being disqualified from if it's once saved always saved? "Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first. Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place." God addressing the churches in Revelation...how could their lampstand be removed if it was once saved always saved? "But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" Why would Christ himself say, if that servant chooses to behave wickedly he'll be cast to hell, if its once saved always saved? "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other" How can many turn away from the faith if its once saved always saved?
@billlee21945 ай бұрын
Amen David. Your' words sound similar to the words by the Christians I come from :).
@BrotherTris5 жыл бұрын
I hope the scriptures are self explanatory, but I have also including comments on many of them for clarity's sake. Please read them carefully: 1 Corinthians 9:27 "But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified." If Paul, the greatest Christian to have ever lived (probably), should confess that it was possible for him to be 'disqualified' from the race, whilst having the strong 'belief' that he did, how much more should we be careful to watch our own steps in regard to holiness and disciplining ourselves? To me, this is a key verse against OSAS because he wouldn't mention the possibility of 'disqualification' at all otherwise. Romans 11:19-22 "Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off." Paul is comparing the severity of judgement of the Jews to our own possible judgement, should we not be walking with Him. It means that someone who is 'grafted in' to the tree (gentiles into God's kingdom) can also be cut out of it again. This is clear teaching against OSAS. Hebrews 6:4-6 "For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt." Self explanatory, I think. someone who has 'tasted the heavenly gift' is someone who has been born again, yet the author is remarking that to truly 'fall away' is to 'crucify Jesus again' and hold Him up to public shame, in contempt, and that this is possible for someone who has been born again. It suggests that it is indeed possible to lose salvation, and that salvation must be guarded closely by those that have received it, to run the race and finish it well. Hebrews 10:26 "For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins." Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’" How many so called Christians believe they are saved, when in fact they work iniquity? You might say that anyone with belief WILL be saved, and that anyone who teaches that this is not true is a false prophet/teacher/pastor etc. Well, Jesus Christ is telling you different here, I'm afraid. People don't cast out demons or heal in His name without SOME belief in His power, and believing Him to be real. Yet, it is iniquity that prevents them from truly knowing Him. I understand that it can be argued that they were never 'saved' in the first place, but only a belief saving you is still under fire from this verse, because it's simply not true. You can quote other scriptures to back your points, but without the balance of scripture, you only have half the story, and it makes this OSAS doctrine you're preaching false. Matthew 10:22 "And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved." 1 Timothy 4:1 "Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons" I put these 2 together because they are related; one must 'endure to the end to be saved', because in the end days people will depart from the faith and fall into error. I pray this doesn't happen to anyone I know, but there it is... believers CAN fall away and be seduced by the devil, and you can bet that they will not be saved in the end because of that. 1 Corinthians 15:1-2 "Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you-unless you believed in vain." It is possible to believe in vain. Grace alone does not save us, we need faith... and faith without works is dead. How many people calling themselves true believers are producing the works of the Holy Spirit in their lives? Less than you might think, is my opinion. We must 'hold fast' to every aspect of the gospel, and tremble in fear that people we know and love might not make it... we must 'work out our salvation with fear and trembling' Ezekiel 18:24 But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die. Finally, this scripture from the OT tells us that a righteous man who turns to wickedness will not find grace; he will die. The flipside is that an unrighteous man who turns to righteousness can be saved - and that's the good news for all of us.
@graftme31685 жыл бұрын
Do not misinterpret "work out your own salvation." This means to let it come out of you, not that you can keep salvation by works. The very next verse says, "For it is God that causes you to will and to do His good pleasure.":It is not by your own works, but the Holy Spirit in you that gives you the will to do what God desires. The credit belongs to Him and not to your own self. If you think it does, you have fallen from grace. It can't be both works and grace. You must choose one or the other. And we know that nobody is saved by their works.
@jamesjeson5565 жыл бұрын
Graft Me You will be judged without mercy if you show no mercy. Mercy is an act. An act is a work. Faith without works is dead. We are justified by works and not by faith alone. Read James 2:13-on.
@comeagain90745 жыл бұрын
Tris am with you 100% , OSAS I don't see lining up with Jesus teaching, He said : if your right eye offend you pluck it out" that would mean take drastic steps to rid yourself of anything that would hinder holiness, in contrast OSAS teaches that no matter what you do r dont do you still on your way to heaven
@robertkincaid17285 жыл бұрын
@@comeagain9074 if a person plays around in sin they're probably not truly saved therefore there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins for them because Jesus is the only way out. the Bible is clear that we do not work for our salvation in any way otherwise we would be able to boast
@bogart51315 жыл бұрын
@@graftme3168 but it all depends on your willingness to allow the holly spirit to help you..... still depends on you
@Bria_Angel964 жыл бұрын
Such great teaching and so refreshing!! Love it! Praise God!
@timothyseals37913 жыл бұрын
Many scriptures show us that OSAS is not biblical. The parable of the prodigal son proves OSAS is not biblical.
@redfaux745 жыл бұрын
I do find it amazing that people use Jude to defend the "always saved" doctrine. V 5 says "He saved the people out of Egypt and afterward destroyed them that believed not (continued not, I Cor 10:1-10)". We know He only saved Joshua and Caleb (but saved ALL the others). Thru rebellion they backslid and were all destroyed. I Cor 10:21 "you cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devil's", same chapter, same topic, diff example. V 6 The angels IN heaven (without a sin nature) rejected God, followed Lucifer, now Satan, and He condemned them to hell. V 7 Sodom GIVING THEMSELVES OVER ... you know that story. Jude clearly is making the case we can backslide and turn the grace of God into lasciviousness (v 4, depravity, sexual sin extremes). They are TWICE DEAD, whose fruit withers, without fruit, plucked up by the root (v 12). Jesus CAN keep us, and will but not against our will. This is why "snatch" is the key there. We cannot snatch ourselves. He didn't say we cannot NOT MOVE ourselves because we can do what we want. Snatch is from outside. This is why He keeps our steps, guides our way, preserves the Word forever. Stay in it and you are preserved. Sin, if repented of, is forgotten and removed. Jesus told Peter (an apostle, saved) in John 13:8 "if I wash thee not, thou has no part with me". That is extreme and complete. I don't think Jesus was exaggerating to make His point. And in Rev 21:7-8 "he that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, unbelieving, .... and all liars will have their part in the lake of fire". I don't think he's just saying "sinners" there. 8 follows 7 and we must overcome. Every church (Rev ch 2-3) was told that. Some were told He would take their candle out if they did not return to their first love, Him. They started right and turned away. Peace brother.
@thehourifirstbelieved36555 жыл бұрын
You're now making it about your works then rather than about Gods grace, which means that in order to be saved, you need to be like the pharisee and keep the whole law. Good luck, only one managed to do that. I suggest you study the scripture again with those versus in the video. When God saves he saves to the uttermost so that we can have full assurance and confidence, otherwise we're living in constant fear of whether we were good enough, did I sin enough etc etc
@redfaux745 жыл бұрын
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 - Just read it in context. If the angels in heaven sinned and they did not have a sin nature then why do you think God used that scenario as a reference for us? God can save us to the uttermost and will but not against our will. We get saved by trusting in Christ, we stay saved by trusting in Christ. Live by faith. Live in faith. Live in the Word. I trust the Word, not my works. How can you say you are trusting God but sinning at the same time?
@thehourifirstbelieved36555 жыл бұрын
@@redfaux74 because God doesnt wipe out our old sin nature until we die and receive new bodies..that's why he gives us new bodies..because these ones are tarnished with sin. Please read Roman's 6 and 7. When we believe in Christ we become new creatures with new natures..but our old nature is still in our mortal bodies..that's not saved..what's saved is our new nature and 1 john 3:9 illustrates that perfectly..that he who is born of God cannot sin..our new nature cannot sin.. hence perfection..hence being able to enter Gods rest eternally. God bless you..I pray you understand this and begin to enjoy your salvation
@thehourifirstbelieved36555 жыл бұрын
@@redfaux74 also..you said we stay saved by trusting in Christ..that sounds like you're trusting on your will and works to keep you saved..if we couldn't earn salvation.then we definately cant keep it..only he can..and he said so himself in John 6:39.
@redfaux745 жыл бұрын
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 - Please read my comment first. I've read Romans over 50 times. It won't change. Why did the angels in heaven (before Earth was created) sin and God used that to warn us? They didn't have a sin nature yet God warns US not to sin in the New Testament? Using them as an example for us?
@NickHawaii3 жыл бұрын
He that has endured to the end will be saved. Matthew 24:13
@MichaelAChristian12 жыл бұрын
Read the whole chapter. Salvation is a free gift of God in Jesus Christ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYLIY5yHepd8o7M
@CAsnowman Жыл бұрын
And that would reinforce the idea of the perseverance of the saints which Alan mentions in the video. Just saying I don’t think that verse disproves OSAS at all, God bless my brother in Christ
@NickHawaii Жыл бұрын
@@CAsnowman Many think all is needed is just believe. The demons “believe” and shudder. Endurance and obedience is necessary. Not optional. 👍🏼
@CAsnowman Жыл бұрын
@@NickHawaii right, but demons cannot put their faith and trust in Jesus even if they intellectually know he is real. Works are good and will follow believers with genuine saving faith but it’s not what saves you or keeps you saved, put your whole trust in what Jesus did, not trusting your ability to obey him. There’s a difference between discipleship and sanctification, and salvation. We need to rightly divide the word of truth.
@NickHawaii Жыл бұрын
@@CAsnowman Absolutely! Our own works don’t save us but it’s a dead faith if we don’t show we have works, proof of love. And true demons “believe” God exists but don’t have the kind of faith needed by his servants. One thing for sure. We can lose our salvation if we practice what God condemns. No doubt about that. We can be in a saved condition now but can lose it if not careful and there are warnings about that in scripture as we know.
@Mansur2567 жыл бұрын
He looks like Densel Vashington.
@Highlyfavored_17 жыл бұрын
Мансур true
@johnlauland67857 жыл бұрын
He really does no joke
@duffmcwhatnow29687 жыл бұрын
Мансур and they're both believers
@DelbertStinkfester6 жыл бұрын
LOL....I've been surfing his videos and couldn't think of the name of the guy he looks like....Thanks for saving me an entire day of obsessing over it.
@rutherd.wanderergospelmagi36076 жыл бұрын
*Washington
@junebug27825 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great. But Im not sure why you said that the bible does not teach that God does not send people to hell. Luke 12:5 "But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him"
@hello8555 жыл бұрын
How exactly does he not teach about hell???
@kittyhylbert52835 жыл бұрын
Hi, I think what he is saying is that God have us Jesus as a way out of hell. God gives us the chance to choose. God creates every person to be his own. We send ourselves to hell by not choosing Jesus.
@hellbillyoutlaw87194 жыл бұрын
Hell is the grave its was never in greek hebrew stop spreading the nonsense around.
@shuntymcfuggles36234 жыл бұрын
@@hellbillyoutlaw8719 Revelation 21:8 "As for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, the murderers, the fornicators, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death." The first death is the grave. The second is the lake of fire.
@beautifulsoulsbystayeshay80033 жыл бұрын
We can break our covenant with God as I did it in year 2020 when I became very interested in the occult and started practicing pagan/occult things. Although the Holy Spirit eventually stepped in to warn me in many ways, if I decided to ignore the Holy Spirit I would have lost my inheritance. See I had to ask for repentance and except Jesus back into my life otherwise I would have been working for the devil. We cannot serve two masters as the Bible says. Therefore, you can lose your salvation.
@spnola96503 жыл бұрын
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@JesusUpliftsAll3 жыл бұрын
You just posted that the Holy Spirit saved you. Negating everything you said.
@Daniel-go4jr3 жыл бұрын
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend Thank you! That's exactly it! Sin isn't ok, and if we keep sinning in spite of "being saved" there will be consequences. So if the Holy Spirit is truly in us we will wrestle with our sin, try and figure our what our sins are, where we fall short. If we're convicted we'll truly repent. The Lord can miraculously remove our sin but I think sometimes some of it is left for us to wrestle with, because He uses the fight as a tool to sanctify us. But we are supposed to engage. We have to wage war with our flesh. But the conviction to do so is itself a gift of grace, and not everyone does it, because not everyone professing to be saved is truly saved, and not everyone is on the same place on their path of sanctification, and a lot of reasons. But we're supposed to help each other with the fight, and point out dangers and blind spots to each other. All part of our incredible Sovereign God's plan for us.
@tracyleonard79103 жыл бұрын
Which or how many sins does it take to lose an eternal salvation? Answer: Jesus on the cross took All the future sins not just particular sins. 🙏
@phinehoshi3 жыл бұрын
I believe we can lose our salvation like Judas. He is close to Jesus as one of the apostles and in the end, he turned away from Jesus and committed suicide without salvation.
@BrotherDuncanGM Жыл бұрын
Brother, fantastic presentation of this truth in the gospel! I have faith you reached many who were prior doubting their own salvation. God bless!
@aaronparsons81506 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna go into my life story but I almost killed myself today. Now I’m crying and I’m so grateful. Bless you brother
@codywilson54455 жыл бұрын
Aaron Parsons how are you doing now?
@robertmatos45535 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaamen!!!! His blood is sufficient for ALL sins.
@BIGYOUU4 жыл бұрын
@Felix Mitchell 🤨
@BIGYOUU4 жыл бұрын
@Felix Mitchell So you're saying if I sin my salvation is gone😕
@BIGYOUU4 жыл бұрын
@Felix Mitchell What about asking God for forgiveness🙂
@BIGYOUU4 жыл бұрын
@Felix Mitchell Thanks for the info❤
@earthsiege774 жыл бұрын
@Felix Mitchell The true believers won't be here for the mark only those who don't think Jesus died for all their sins. BTW check this out and follow up w/ this preacher he says it right.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZmUh4hjlLR5b5o
@andrewhundeby5 жыл бұрын
Hebrews 1:26 - "For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries." Can you lose your salvation through willful sin... yes.
@lightninlad5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hundeby Yup. The OSAS crowd will do all kinds of verbal gymnastics not to acknowledge that verse but no matter how hard they try, there’s no getting around it.
@demeatrialawhorn52204 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hundeby, thank you! AMEN!
@iicecourt004 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hundeby You want me to explain this verse? I can explain what it means
@estebanblanco20014 жыл бұрын
It just means God will punish you, it doesn't mean he will send you to hell
@all_mine12333 жыл бұрын
No, they won't lose salvation. They will just be disciplined.
@SeeYouNtheRealms817 Жыл бұрын
This is dangerous for those that “receive”it as a pass to sin…and then engage in a cycle of repentance as a belief.