Is Pokemon Accuracy a Lie?

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AzazeL

AzazeL

Күн бұрын

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@WolfeyVGC
@WolfeyVGC 15 күн бұрын
great video, but have you considered that play rough could behave differently in tournament compared to online :3
@christingalilee2019
@christingalilee2019 14 күн бұрын
Pokeball go
@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan
@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan 14 күн бұрын
Roll for combat Wolf
@baacloud
@baacloud 13 күн бұрын
play rough: World Champ Difference edition
@jacksonhorrocks4281
@jacksonhorrocks4281 12 күн бұрын
There probably is a lot of Play Rough data from tournament matches already, right?
@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan
@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan 12 күн бұрын
@jacksonhorrocks4281 yes in general, but I think we only have access to any live streamed battle data
@mikeleddyphoto
@mikeleddyphoto 16 күн бұрын
Psychology is cool as hell. It’s wild that human beings can trick ourselves so convincingly like this
@anikinsgamer4597
@anikinsgamer4597 16 күн бұрын
Focus blast is 30% accurate, you cannot tell me otherwise.
@syan2240
@syan2240 16 күн бұрын
It only hits when i use it to throw
@magnuspeacock5857
@magnuspeacock5857 16 күн бұрын
I just did the B/W2 challenge mode post game elite 4, and Caitlyn hit 5 focus blasts in a row. She's defo cheating.
@THGMR-ox7sd
@THGMR-ox7sd 16 күн бұрын
I think focus blast doesn’t miss as much as everyone says it does.
@Forever-GM-Dusty
@Forever-GM-Dusty 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, that 70 next to the word accuracy is in fact it's miss chance
@fruityb0wl232
@fruityb0wl232 14 күн бұрын
focus miss
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 13 күн бұрын
In truth its all "negativity bias." Our brains are far more likely to remember the bad times and inconveniences over the good times and successes. It SUCKS when it misses, and when it happens our brain sticks onto it, but when it lands it goes "yeah of course it landed its got 90 accuracy. No big deal" basically.
@sonicrunn3r895
@sonicrunn3r895 10 күн бұрын
And equally it goes the other way, you never remember the times when you get lucky and dodge that rock slide, but you DEFINITELY remember when that rock slide hits both of your Pokemon and flinches at least one of them (and that flinch matters because it was the one you didn’t want to flinch)
@MrCheeze
@MrCheeze 16 күн бұрын
Technically, the accuracy of play rough is 3686/4096 = 89.990234375%, so you could say they're lying about that hundredth of a percent.
@OverloadedDragon
@OverloadedDragon 16 күн бұрын
that's not statistically significant
@Edujs23
@Edujs23 15 күн бұрын
​@@OverloadedDragon YOU ARE NOT STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT
@strawzulusansundertalehorr7624
@strawzulusansundertalehorr7624 15 күн бұрын
@@Edujs23They are. You aren't.
@Father-of-Xerxes
@Father-of-Xerxes 15 күн бұрын
@@OverloadedDragonstatistical significance doesn’t apply when you know the exact numbers as we do here. Statistical significance only applies when you are comparing samples to other samples, to hypothetical values, or to the population
@KN-oc7cu
@KN-oc7cu 14 күн бұрын
​@Father-of-Xerxes while you are right, i think, it could be argued we are comparing 2 samples. You are trying to extrapolate the data from one test to the overall data set of every time this move has ever and/or will ever be used.
@YotamCohen_
@YotamCohen_ 16 күн бұрын
The guy who did the math on the statistics must be pretty cool and smart and handsome ;)
@AzazeL_The_God
@AzazeL_The_God 16 күн бұрын
THANKS FOR DOING THE MATH YOTAM YOURE THE SMARTEST LOVE YOU
@banan9377
@banan9377 16 күн бұрын
Humans are simply bad at intuitively grasping probability. 70% moves are an easy example, I think for most people before experiencing pokemon you'd think that 70 is high enough that it's almost guaranteed, however what people don't realize is that hitting 70% twice is only 49% meaning if you use a 70% accurate move twice, you have a 51% chance of missing at least once, meaning it's more likely for you to miss at least once than hitting both. I haven't played the gens where Focus Blast was meta but I'm guessing a big reason Focus Blast is called Focus Miss is that Focus Blast is used to 2HKO relevant targets (or more), which mathematically is less likely than a coin flip.
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley 11 күн бұрын
Honestly, I see 70% and think "that'll miss sometimes", probably because it's brazenly below 3/4ths.
@gthedon__
@gthedon__ 16 күн бұрын
If it ain’t 100% it’s 50%
@whome9842
@whome9842 10 күн бұрын
Time to spend all money on lottery tickets! After all it is 50% chance, either you win or you don't😆
@laskurtanceixixii
@laskurtanceixixii 7 күн бұрын
​@@whome9842😐
@eow4317
@eow4317 13 күн бұрын
Wait. PLAY ROUGH CAN MISS??? It has never once missed when used against me or when I used it. This… this is earth shattering news
@JosephGambit
@JosephGambit 16 күн бұрын
Watching this after having clicked Scale Shot roughly 30 times in Stuttgart this weekend feels cathartic
@NCSGaming15
@NCSGaming15 16 күн бұрын
YOOOO how did you place?
@JosephGambit
@JosephGambit 16 күн бұрын
@NCSGaming15 Top 128, actually got insanely lucky to place exactly 128th. I was 5-2, but unfortunately lost my Win&In to Day 2.
@AzazeL_The_God
@AzazeL_The_God 16 күн бұрын
I hate Play Rough!!!!
@nexenojustice552
@nexenojustice552 16 күн бұрын
^ Every Zacian ever
@banditrests
@banditrests 16 күн бұрын
Idk man, maybe run home claws on mimikyu next time.
@kalarse
@kalarse 15 күн бұрын
i hate non 100% accuracy moves!
@josephmuir4189
@josephmuir4189 15 күн бұрын
I feel so seen by this entire video
@user-AADZ
@user-AADZ 13 күн бұрын
Fair
@blaquephyrekendra1779
@blaquephyrekendra1779 16 күн бұрын
As a Charizard enthusiast, missing Heat Wave at my first local had me feeling some type of way
@ajbXYZcool
@ajbXYZcool 16 күн бұрын
I was half expecting the lie to be on the side of the game saying the accuracy is lower than it actually is, as I've heard some game designers like to do that so the odds presented line up with what our biases prefer.
@Theserperiortrainer497
@Theserperiortrainer497 12 күн бұрын
It's also another reason we are thrown off by pokemon.bevause it's honest.
@Theserperiortrainer497
@Theserperiortrainer497 12 күн бұрын
It's also another reason we are thrown off by pokemon.bevause it's honest.
@LexClone5
@LexClone5 15 күн бұрын
Alright, now we just gotta do this with Focus Blast and Stone Edge
@brewslidepark
@brewslidepark 15 күн бұрын
Stone edge is the worst offender to me cause rock slide isn't 100% either
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley 11 күн бұрын
The problem with Stone Edge is more Rock's complete lack of accurate physical moves.
@dariogarciarodriguez4870
@dariogarciarodriguez4870 16 күн бұрын
You can actually calculate the probability of hitting 897/1000 Play Roughs for 90% and for 85% accuracy with a binomial distribution: If Play Rough is 90% accuracy, the probability of hitting 897/1000 or more is 65% If Play Rough is 85% accuracy, the probability of hitting 897/1000 or more is 0.0008%
@erensy641
@erensy641 16 күн бұрын
By doing this, it's sort of like finding the percent error isn't it?
@dariogarciarodriguez4870
@dariogarciarodriguez4870 15 күн бұрын
@@erensy641 it's not a percent error, but a percent of how likely something is to happen. In fact, this experiment doesn't tell what's the accuracy of the move, only that it being 90% accurate is way more likely than 85% accurate. However, something being more likely is not related to it being good or wrong. The only way to have the correct answer would be to check the code, and is up to human interpretation of data to decide if something is correct or not based on statistics. In the end, there's always a chance that a rare event is happening.
@erensy641
@erensy641 15 күн бұрын
@@dariogarciarodriguez4870 that's true. While the experiment was going on, I kept thinking, what if the odds are unlucky and end up changing the value in the end. This is pretty unlikely, but missing things like Hydro Pump and Draco Meteor have made me pretty scared, though irrationally.
@_TyPo_
@_TyPo_ 16 күн бұрын
Awesome DOE! Props to you and Gab for making the ultimate sacrifice in search of the truth.
@WestyVGC
@WestyVGC 16 күн бұрын
Me watching this after playing sun at a local and missing 2 overheats in a row
@arknorstuff2586
@arknorstuff2586 16 күн бұрын
Me watching this the day after I went 0-3 in Stuttgart reg because of sleep powder misses and turn 2 wake ups (47.5% combining both).
@NPC-W
@NPC-W 13 күн бұрын
and I missed 4 play rough in a row in a tera battle😓
@browserjunior4707
@browserjunior4707 9 күн бұрын
Straight up lost like 7 matches in the Grand Challenge to Hurricane missing
@bugorgans
@bugorgans 16 күн бұрын
insert obligatory focus blast joke here
@arknorstuff2586
@arknorstuff2586 16 күн бұрын
You hate play rough because it has 90% acc. I hate play rough because it's a moonblast downgrade. We're not the same.
@exeggutivejudge3747
@exeggutivejudge3747 14 күн бұрын
No that belongs to Dazzling Gleam my guy
@arknorstuff2586
@arknorstuff2586 14 күн бұрын
@@exeggutivejudge3747 Dazzling gleam is a spread move. I won't deny it's a worse moonblast in singles, but in VGC it's fine. Play rough is the worse moonblast because it ha less power and can miss. For fairy physical attackers it's a nightmare see how the special ones get the good fairy move.
@exeggutivejudge3747
@exeggutivejudge3747 14 күн бұрын
@arknorstuff2586 In terms of power, it's not really THAT big of a downgrade being 5 less base power. But then again, that little 5 point difference can make a HUGE deal in battle, so I could see different POVs in that regard. In terms of accuracy, oh boy that 90% sure screws you over HARD if the RNG gods don't favor you.
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 13 күн бұрын
Also, why did every type get their accurate special move nerfed from 95 to 90 going into gen 6 but Fairy still get to have a 95 BP move ? I geet that it isn't that big of a gap, but it still feels like special treatment
@KokoroFrog
@KokoroFrog 12 күн бұрын
💪Physical fairies stay losing‼️ 🌕Moonblast!✨ 🌕Moonblast!✨ 🌕Moonblast!✨
@dizzlx4662
@dizzlx4662 16 күн бұрын
This just goes to show how truly unlucky you are to miss in critical moments. My hated move of choice is High Horsepower. Barely click it, somehow finds a way to miss when I need it not to. A freaking one in 20 and it'll miss whenever I need it not to.
@GellertGreer
@GellertGreer 12 күн бұрын
Missing icy wind 5 times in a row in a casual battle had me looking around the room for anomalies.
@banditrests
@banditrests 16 күн бұрын
Accuracy in Pokémon has always been weird. As you probably know, in gen 1, 100% accurate moves are actually 99.7% accurate due to the 256 glitch, the only move that can’t miss is swift. Maybe that biased people into believing it was still screwy based on vibes alone.
@Laezar1
@Laezar1 16 күн бұрын
I started with blue and even by gen 4 I was still not trusting 100% accurate moves. I had completely internalized that any move could miss. It didn't help that gen 1 didn't show move accuracy and that they weren't always coherent, like, rock throw being 55 accuracy or slam being 75 in a game where you get body slam as a TM super early, these moves had no reason to be such low accuracy for their power level and it really messed with my kid's brain trying to make sense of all that.
@SSBBPOKEFAN
@SSBBPOKEFAN 15 күн бұрын
I feel your pain, man. *glares at Gen 3-5 Rock Tomb*
@cosmicrift2763
@cosmicrift2763 13 күн бұрын
i have missed play rough once, like ever and i often forget it’s even 90% accurate, but I have *literally* never got an attack drop with it. I’m somewhat convinced that moonblast’s sp.atk drop and play rough’s atk drop are just myths ☠️☠️☠️
@markbryan4336
@markbryan4336 13 күн бұрын
As an aside, thanks for publishing this video. Experimentation is the very core of science and so, so many people refuse to publish negative results (ie they disproved their hypothesis). This is a problem because that bias itself is harming science and progress.
15 күн бұрын
"One move in particular has been so unreliable" Play rough? "Play rough" I KNEW IT
@pianomusic2769
@pianomusic2769 16 күн бұрын
Azazel upload, it's a good day
@meganhammer7857
@meganhammer7857 13 күн бұрын
I don't play competitive, but ever since my first nuzlocke I pretty much just started ignoring any move that isn't 100% accurate, even in a casual playthrough when there's really no consequence for missing. It's just so inconvenient every time it happens.
@nightsgiftstarrealm2627
@nightsgiftstarrealm2627 12 күн бұрын
Me and my brother have big beef with accuracy. We play another game that has an accuracy mechanic, and 85% accurate attacks act like they are 50/50, you are missing every other move and its so annoying. And it makes no sense. It shouldent be missing as much as it is
@XICI0US
@XICI0US 16 күн бұрын
I've always held the theory that the games coding gets junked up through the course of battle affecting the formula for accuracy.
@marcoasturias8520
@marcoasturias8520 15 күн бұрын
900 hits in and it didn't
@deadlifts4357
@deadlifts4357 15 күн бұрын
when you see that focus blast's "accuracy" is 70%, it's actually a 70% chance to miss
@rafaelblackman9879
@rafaelblackman9879 13 күн бұрын
If a move isn’t 100% accurate, it’s 50/50
@hi-ougidemonfang
@hi-ougidemonfang 13 күн бұрын
Pokemon players complaining about the probability lying. While for fire emblem fans that was literally true (at least for fire emblem gba)
@zetafish7347
@zetafish7347 15 күн бұрын
My most innaccurate moves would definitely have to be hypnosis and high jump kick. At least I'm already aware that hypnosis is a bad move, but high jump kick has no business missing as much as it does for me, especially considering I get punished for said miss. High Jump Kick is like my physical Focus Miss.
@entothechesnautknight1762
@entothechesnautknight1762 12 күн бұрын
God, the fact that the Mimikyu in the thumbnail isn't actually blindfolded is so damn good, i love it.
@diamondmemer9754
@diamondmemer9754 13 күн бұрын
Play rough is like this in showdown too, so it's not actually bugged
@alathreon8315
@alathreon8315 15 күн бұрын
Watching this video after missing first hit of wide lens population bomb twice in a row.
@skazka3789
@skazka3789 15 күн бұрын
did you mean wide lens 😂
@alathreon8315
@alathreon8315 14 күн бұрын
@@skazka3789 ah yes sorry
@Zenala
@Zenala 13 күн бұрын
NO CUZ WHEN YOU SAID "There's a move I've always felt like it failed me" my mind went immediately to play rough. Before you even said anything. You're SO right
@wentoneisendon6502
@wentoneisendon6502 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm convinced that Pokémon showdowns accuracy codings are not correct. The amount of critical hits on that game are insane and they're only supposed to be like 5%?
@maartendekroon267
@maartendekroon267 14 күн бұрын
Gen 1 Zubat's Supersonic.... that was NOT 55%😮
@oneicedragon
@oneicedragon 13 күн бұрын
Play rough constantly missing at only the most important moments is why I started using hone claws over swords dance in the battle tree in USUM
@kaywantsfood
@kaywantsfood 16 күн бұрын
I have missed a play rough three times ever so I think I stole your odds
@dotmashrc
@dotmashrc 16 күн бұрын
Woah! You are Justin Carris? It's great to find other VGC players to watch.
@marcofogli3703
@marcofogli3703 16 күн бұрын
You make hands down amongst the best content and storytelling of the entire Pokemon content creation community! Keep it up!
@Zomonitan
@Zomonitan 12 күн бұрын
I remember missing 3 Play Roughs in a row once and losing my Battle Tree streak
@shimogane2474
@shimogane2474 16 күн бұрын
Imported cheese made a legendary video about how accuracy and the statistics behind this move works really. He called it "How accurate is Stone Edge ACTUALLY?". The point he makes is that accuracy relies on the law of large numbers, so how you tested it in the video. But he made a strong point inbetween: Does the law of large numbers even MATTER in a pokemon battle? You click this move 16 times, if you really have to. So he said:" You click Stone Edge, you miss it. 0% accuracy". He made a little fun ladder experiment where he did set up a group of pokemon stone edging and focus blasting for 10 battles, and got a better accuracy out of Focus blast. Its wrong. But in the heat of the battle, every miss can have fatal consequences. And every hit is just "expected", like of course you will hit 9 play roughs. But the one that misses is the one kicking you out of the tournament. So accuracy management is important in the teambuilder. I know people not using Iron Bundle because its only water stab option is the miserable hydro pump, and it is legit too. You have to decide how often you can cost yourself to rely on 90% accuracy moves in a tournament. And when you don't care missing one or twice in a set. People have spammed fissure after all.
@ThePr1nceOfNothing
@ThePr1nceOfNothing 16 күн бұрын
I swear I never knew draco meteor or play rough could miss until last week. Why do they even do that??? Especially draco meteor!!! It already sharply lowers ur stats, it does NOT need to miss. Istg draco meteor never missed before with me Edit: Also, last month, I missed 5 focus blasts in a row... My luck this year has literally been in the trenches😔
@nathanstruble2177
@nathanstruble2177 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, Focus Miss is a joke move
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 12 күн бұрын
Focus Blast only makes sense when coverage is scarce and it was impossible to delete Pokémon with one move six times without much difficulty. In other words, it is a Sinnoh move that should have stayed in Sinnoh.
@ZessoDotExe
@ZessoDotExe 16 күн бұрын
Sudo-psychology was really clever 2:35
@AuraRayquaza
@AuraRayquaza 16 күн бұрын
Damn bruh I'm sorry I hope this vid does numbers in return
@axelltheswampert7553
@axelltheswampert7553 16 күн бұрын
I also wanted to see if something new was discovered because my bad luck sometimes is insane! Just in this gen I've got both of my pokemon frozen in two battles in a row. Getting flinched again and again without serene grace involved. Paralysis being like freeze for me but doing nothing to my opponent and the most recent one, Sneasler putting everything to sleep but when I tried a team with it, only poison TWICE with Dire Claw after multiple battles, for the rest of the games it did NOTHING. I can't believe in that 50% of status, at least not if Sneasler is on my side lol
@funkyjlt6789
@funkyjlt6789 16 күн бұрын
Super cool that you basically go through the scientific method to confirm/deny play rough’s accuracy - from the observation that it might be 85% to the statistical analysis of a significant # of attempts. One thing I’m curious about after seeing that streak of 50/50 hits in a row is if one play rough is independent from the next. The overall accuracy might be 90%, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that hitting one won’t influence the next anttempt’s accuracy. I also wonder how you think choosing moves for a pokemon based on the expected value (expected damage, sleep turns, paralysis chance, etc) and throwing the bias against non-100% moves out would fare. Or, as a competitive player, you’d rather leave chance out of the mix and win based on skill and 100% accurate (but weaker) moves alone
@Joeybanananas
@Joeybanananas 16 күн бұрын
To your last question? It can really depend. Look at joeux9 with his torkoal jumpluff team. Its been amazing for him this reg, despite all the inaccurate moves, but its also lost him thr finals of a regional due to move inaccuracy. So if a player is good enough to play around the downsides of variance, but also take advantage of the upsides, then running inaccurate moves CAN be optimal
@avengy852
@avengy852 16 күн бұрын
Riley Factura only uses 100% accurate moves, I think he even used Dragon Pulse > Draco Meteor on Miraidon (or just didn't use Miraidon?) and he is a 5 time Regional Champion, so it probably isn't to bad to have weaker moves if you are just a better player. David Koutesh for example once said he used Stone Edge because in the instances he clicks it a miss won't lose him the game, but he has more power on the move itself, so he can use his attack EVs for another stat. In VGC there is probably not a perfect way because you face different opponents/teams/accuracies in every torunament if you play vs Riley you might lose because you missed a 90% accurate move but if you play against Justin you might be fine missing a move because he will miss his Play Rough in return on the other hand Riley might not get the 1 hit K.O.
@Joeybanananas
@Joeybanananas 16 күн бұрын
@@avengy852 The case of draco vs dpulse is an interesting one. Im going to simplify it a bit in my analysis below, but its very debatable which is better. Draco is 90% accurate and 130 bp. It loses 2 stages of sp atk if it hits. Assuming you use it 2 times in a row your damage output (not accounting for crits) is: (130 bp x 90% acc) + (65 bp x 90% acc). The 65 bp represents losing 2 stages of sp atk. Your end result is 175.5 bp of damage. Pokemom rounds down so thats 175 bp of damage. Dpulse is 85 bp and 100% accurate. So the math is simple. Its 85 x 2= 170 So using draco twice, not accounting for crits or damage rolls, will give you like 3% more damage then dpulse. Which is good, but it has the downsides of missing and also making turn 3 being even lower damage output. Dpulse is more consistent and after turn 2 will put out more damage. If you account for crits you will find that draco has an upper bound of 390 bp damage (draco crits twice) and a lower bound of 0 (draco misses twice). Dpulse has a lower upper bound of 255 bp damage (2 crits in a row) and a lower bound of the aforementioned 170. So, in conclusion, draco does offer MUCH higher upside if things go well, but MUCH lower downside if things go wrong. Dpulse is very consistent and the upper bound of dpulse is closer to the upper bound of draco (135 bp difference) compared to looking at both lower bounds (170 bp differences) So with those particular moves, on a pure ev of damage basis, dpulse is probably better. This analysis does skip over the fact that draco can rack up okhos, while dpulse.... just can't. So that fact does PROBABLY push draco ahead of dpulse as the better move, but its actually very close and a worth debate.
@avengy852
@avengy852 16 күн бұрын
@@Joeybanananas Thanks for the math with that calculation Draco is probably always better when you consider having a Focus Energy Hydreigon and still it can lose you a match with its 10% miss chance which is reasonable if someone wants to avoid that: Luke Kroll missing his Senior worlds win this year because he missed Draco, but would he have been in the finals without it? Wolfe Glick pressing Water Spout in his worlds finals because he didn't want to lose by an Origin Pulse miss. As I said there is no right or wrong when it comes to chosing moves it depends on a lot of things and both can work. It gets even more interesting when you compare stuff like Heatwave vs Flamethrower then it might even depend on the meta what the better choice is for example if Wideguard is common or not.
@Pabs1234
@Pabs1234 10 күн бұрын
just grabbed my graphing calculator and at a 5% significance level there is insufficient evidence to reject the null hypothesis that playrough hits 90%
@_FallenTurtle_
@_FallenTurtle_ 16 күн бұрын
I have always felt like I miss play rough a ton as well, I just end up staying away from using play rough (if possible). Also this was a great video
@Darth_Insidious
@Darth_Insidious 12 күн бұрын
90% accuracy is a 66% chance to hit 4 in a row. 70% accuracy is a 24% chance to hit 4 in a row.
@toastnuances
@toastnuances 16 күн бұрын
lmao the blindfolded Mimikyu gunplay
@NightmaresGirl
@NightmaresGirl 16 күн бұрын
Do sacred fire. That shit will be 80%
@Laezar1
@Laezar1 16 күн бұрын
One other thing to wonder is how the RNG is generated. Like, imagine the RNG is just a band numbered 1 to 100 that rolls by 1 everytime you use a move, if it hits 90 or less play rough hits, otherwise it misses. Obviously that's not how pokemon rng works but in this hypothetical scenario despite the move hitting exactly 90 times over 100 attempts you will have you 10 misses in a row 100% of the time, so if you miss once then play rough is 0% accurate for the next 9moves. The reason I'm saying this is that it's possible for a move to have the correct accuracy but still having higher or lower odds than normal to hit large streak. For exemple, crits in league of legends (at least when I played it years ago) are adjusted to limit streaks, if you don't hit crits after a bunch of hits your crit chance will increase, and same if you do a lot of crits it will decrease to limit the impact of lucky streaks on your dps, so if you have 33% chance to crit you'll still hit about 33 crit every 100 hits but the pattern of doing two normal hits and one crit will be much more common than it should be. I don't think pokemon does any of that but in theory that's something you'd have to test for in such an experiment to be completely thorough.
@YoJoRockThaBeat
@YoJoRockThaBeat 16 күн бұрын
Hope to see you tearing up the competitive scene whenever you decide to come back again!
@nightingem
@nightingem 16 күн бұрын
Really love the concept of this video! As a Fire Emblem player, my first thought went to two rn hahah. I love all the effort you put into this, and your commentary is very engaging and clear!
@OneMoreDesu
@OneMoreDesu 16 күн бұрын
Man blames video game and then proves himself wrong
@phyllotaxis
@phyllotaxis 14 күн бұрын
It was kind of funny going back to Pokemon after playing Fear & Hunger (a game which makes you call a coinflip if an enemy will kill you). Now 80% moves feel plenty accurate.
@PriffyViole
@PriffyViole 12 күн бұрын
You should try this with ShadyPenguin. Not to test accuracy, but to figure out how that one specific man can miss Thunder Wave 90% of the time
@electric_dream_machine
@electric_dream_machine 15 күн бұрын
Probability is always less stressful once you're in the thousand-sized sample range. That's why shiny hunters cope with it much more easily 😂
@Pablo360able
@Pablo360able 11 күн бұрын
As soon as you started talking about PP, I thought of Leppa Berry Recycle. I actually used that in-game during the first DLC for a very annoying Dipplin set.
@benji6325
@benji6325 16 күн бұрын
3:17 Answering this question myself, my answer was without a doubt Play Rough. Not surprised it was yours as well lmaoo
@gyatttt1109
@gyatttt1109 15 күн бұрын
theres another way to use the leppa berry strat, use a trevenant with harvest and use skill swap to give the play rough mon harvest, then have like a torkoal or something to set up the sun to have a 100% chance of getting back the leppa berry
@thanatoast
@thanatoast 13 күн бұрын
Hydro pump when I catch you
@RedeemedSteve
@RedeemedSteve 11 күн бұрын
This is funny to me because we played online in a tournament during COVID in 2020, and I specifically remember you lost because of a Play Rough miss to me. The only reason I remember this was because someone sent me your stream reaction, and I recognized your tag on this video. Funny how all these years later that move still haunts you.
@meowtastic___meowtastic___6115
@meowtastic___meowtastic___6115 16 күн бұрын
That thumbnail is so funny! Free my mimikyu, she did nothing wrong!
@S0me.0ne._YouDont_Know
@S0me.0ne._YouDont_Know 4 күн бұрын
Once I missed 3 play roughs In a row with +1 accuracy and there wasn’t anything else that changed it
@arininquotes8396
@arininquotes8396 16 күн бұрын
Was just thinking how much we needed a new AzazeL upload!!!
@nibbsplaysgames6263
@nibbsplaysgames6263 15 күн бұрын
I missed it. Can you do it again?
@joe_brown_production
@joe_brown_production 15 күн бұрын
Silly Justin/Gab! It either hits or it doesn't!
@MorePower8679
@MorePower8679 14 күн бұрын
If it’s not 100% accurate (or higher), it is 50% accurate
@CristianShowtime
@CristianShowtime 16 күн бұрын
As I say in my job: "Por lo menos salimos de la duda"
@pncka
@pncka 15 күн бұрын
Every Gen 1 move is wrong, it will always have a 1/255 miss chance.
@NPC-W
@NPC-W 13 күн бұрын
95% Acc is still ok for me 90% or below? its same as OHKO move
@KaguyaFalls
@KaguyaFalls 16 күн бұрын
Just ran Zacian in a GS tournament on limitless and hit every play rough last weekend
@Sintra4
@Sintra4 13 күн бұрын
There's an endless supply of reasons to gain and encourage a critical understanding of statistics, so getting better at a game about making fictional animals beat the sh!t out of each other in turn-based combat is one of them.
@micabryant4513
@micabryant4513 16 күн бұрын
I've never mistrusted a moves stated accuracy until Play Rough...and honestly even with the number crunching you did i still don't believe that moves more than 80% tops 😅
@tastymango007
@tastymango007 14 күн бұрын
1:37 what is this song again? It's not listed in the description.
@AzazeL_The_God
@AzazeL_The_God 14 күн бұрын
The piano song? Gymnopédie No. 1 by Erik Satie of the original artist but its a free song in youtube audio library
@tastymango007
@tastymango007 14 күн бұрын
@@AzazeL_The_God Thank you. i don't know why but this song actually makes me feel very nostalgic. Probably old youtube videos I watched as a kid. the song sounds like really melancholic tracks from jrpgs :D
@feyss-9040
@feyss-9040 16 күн бұрын
Nice video man!
@Crawling_Sloth
@Crawling_Sloth 16 күн бұрын
how about evasion boosts? and isnt the seed for battles set in scarlet violet?
@nathanieljones8043
@nathanieljones8043 15 күн бұрын
The main factor and why I'll never play the game competitively the downside of doing literally nothing at random chance is bad game design for any competitive game period. If a move is good enough to risk doing nothing maybe it's overpowered idk.
@plus1praxis
@plus1praxis 7 күн бұрын
Still kinda curious to see this done again with Stone Edge and Focus Blast
@nathanstruble2177
@nathanstruble2177 12 күн бұрын
For me it's T-Wave. I click Play Rough like it's 100% and once in a blue moon get reminded it's not. T-Wave I dread touching and have to look up seemingly monthly just to make sure it really is 90%
@guest4320
@guest4320 10 күн бұрын
I always use Wide Lens with Play Rough, and rarely. But not never, it STILL misses with 99% accurary. Absurb. (No bright powder misses included)
@TheLastSheikah
@TheLastSheikah 13 күн бұрын
I did the same thing a few weeks ago with Misty coin flips in TCG Pocket, which people have been paranoid about being less than 50% chance Out of 100 attempts, I also ended up with almost exactly the distribution it should be...
@alexaschendel3749
@alexaschendel3749 10 күн бұрын
One tournament my Glimmora missed Meteor Beam 5 times in a row LOL. It's 90 percent accurate iirc
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 13 күн бұрын
As an X-COM player, nothing seems amiss here
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley 11 күн бұрын
4:00 This seems very testable. Oh, you did. I don't like how the graph starts at 75.
@transneptunianmarcy
@transneptunianmarcy 11 күн бұрын
maybe someone has already mentioned this, but I heard that the way difficulty on the battle chateau works is by bending the RNG, you could maybe try this there
@PVPTawa
@PVPTawa 15 күн бұрын
Short answer before watching the video: yes.
@kumamarru5492
@kumamarru5492 10 күн бұрын
Bro. It's not just you. I can't count how many games I've lost to Play Rough misses. It legit feels less accurate than Draco.
@DeltaFrazzle
@DeltaFrazzle 13 күн бұрын
This vid just reminds me how I wish all Pokémon were just generally tankier so you can recover instead of losing from a *singular* game changing turn just because of bad rng. Like it’s so stupid how you can lose everything because of 1 turn. I think making them tankier is a solid so you can assess the situation and not just die next turn. Rng can stay. Just make it give slight advantages as opposed to oh I don’t know, losing the whole game.
@NoxNyctores427
@NoxNyctores427 10 күн бұрын
I'm sure you'd have a great time with Xcom, percentages are way more in your face in Xcom and as such too many people fall into a similar situation as you, but every time anyone compiled the data of their shots and misses ended up in a situation like this
@TheMadSnorlax
@TheMadSnorlax 14 күн бұрын
Just when we needed him, our king has returned.
@am53n8
@am53n8 9 күн бұрын
I absolutely would have asked someone smarter than me to have a look at the code, but that's not nearly as funny as doing all this work just to find out it's probably correct
@andrewarmstrong24
@andrewarmstrong24 15 күн бұрын
There is a 100% chance this video is a banger
@cir0plus
@cir0plus 12 күн бұрын
Saw Mimikyu in the thumbnail, had to click on the video
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