Is POR 15 worth it? I tried it on my Jeep Wrangler

[@michaelking42]

2 years later how is it holding up? The video looks great but this is only half the picture. This is really a video of "How I Applied POR15". You pose the question "is it worth it?" But 2 years later, is it worth it? Thanks mate.

[@foskco87]

I always get suspicious with how you NEVER see anyone follow up with the results down the road.... makes me think that the long term results are not good. It always looks good a day after its been done but what about 2-5 years later?

[@stickwallfarm]

Anyone using por-15- this video skips key things: 1) clean well with degreaser followed by a metal etching spray, as por15 instructs. 2) product works best on rust - it really grabs onto the texture/pores of rust - in this example there was so much “good” metal that really needs to be roughed up first to have a tooth for the product the best work on. Por15 on smooth metal looks good but is prone to not properly bonding and may eventually start peeling off. 3) protect/cover everything you don’t want the paint on - from brake components to skin (you can’t wash it off skin- have to live with it for a week until your oils naturally break it down). Would never go at a frame without better protection on things that shouldn’t be painted.

[@marka8537]

Susan peels and chips off of rust too. Junk product

[@The_Rejected_Son]

How is it holding up? I’ve heard horror stories of it flaking and coming off in chunks even after the proper metal prep and such was done. Been told to use rust reformer as a base coat then top coat with farm & implement paint. Both are from rust-oleum

[@Troche571]

Have you tried Eastwoods products? I have both POR 15 and Eastwoods Rust Encapsulator Plus, and Internal Frame Coating on the shelf for some DIY on my Ram and CJ5. As you had pointed out - everything RUSTS on the East coast and for me I just moved here 2 years ago from AZ. Did you break out the wirebrush, and POR Cleaner and Metal Prep? I'm even temped to pick up Eastwoods 50gal Sandblaster for those hard to reach sections.

[@ronmiller7916]

I have an 06 TJ and did the inside of the tub as well as undercarriage a few days after I got it (in CT). 12 years later it's all holding up except for the back bumper which I know I did not prep properly. Prep is critical and even more critical if you already have rust. The TJ was the 3rd vehicle I used POR15 on (2 restores) and it works for me. You just need to put in as much time as you would if you were going to shoot BC/CC. You know what I mean, you skim, it won't last. I will have to replace the rusted rear bumper.

[@ronmiller7916]

A note though...this stuff goes on really thin like water so a little goes a long way. But wear the gloves. It takes around 7 days to get if off your skin no matter what you do (and I've tried 800 grit). It's just so thin it gets down in your pores.

[@ronmiller7916]

Oh, and get the loose rust off with a wire brush first. POR15 has to stop the chemical reaction so if you paint over rust that flakes off, air will get in and restart the reaction. Been there, done that.

[@Andrew-rb4gs]

Awesome stuff. In Canada , rust does in the vehicles before the mechanicals are even close to being worn out. Gonna use this product, thanks.

[@streetscapes]

Still have the Jeep? What was your experience with the POR-15?

[@FlyingWheels]

Works well but fades to flat black after a few months

[@streetscapes]

@@FlyingWheels must be the lack of UV protection. They do sell topcoat that I assume would retain the gloss look, but just another step in the process and $. So long as it protects I don't mind what it looks like on a frame. Plan on doing my 4runner this weekend, thanks for the video

[@pauldavis7962]

I have a quart sitting in the floor. I could not get the top off of it. The lid is too flimsy. Wasted $45 on this stuff. I just used Rustoleum instead, less than 1/4 the cost and a lot less trouble.

[@hawkie333]

Best thing in NE is Fluid Film...these coatings will flake and peel under the abuse and then it’s game over. You can easily rinse and spray the fluid film back on.

[@tallnrough68]

i would be curious how this holds up in the long run... this is designed to be painted directly onto bare metal surfaces. looks like it was painted over the frame that had some kind of coating on it already, so the POR15 might start flaking off.

[@marka8537]

Randy Robinson it doesn’t work on rust and especially bare metal

[@texashankpalmer876]

POR stands for “paint over rust” not “paint over bare metal”

[@marka8537]

Texas Hank Palmer doesn’t work well over rust either even when using the two step prep process. These guys didn’t even do it by the book, will start peeling within days

[@leadfarmer8773]

You guys did a fantastic job! How well did it hold up?

[@rixille]

2 Layers of this + a paint coating on top will really make a difference.

[@marka8537]

rixille bs

[@johnsn10]

They didn’t prep it did they? Wont last if they didn’t prep it correctly

[@mattfoley4128]

2017 and 3 years old....holy smoke you're from the future

[@MMGJ10]

2014 Jeep and the video is 2017. Lol. That's the 3 years

[@howardwhitney7784]

How does the POR 15 look after 4 years? Update?

[@parajeeper]

For a brush job it flowed out well!

[@brucestrong9141]

How's it holding up? Any peeling or flaking?

[@algambino5508]

Hey! Is it true you shouldnt touch up screws and bolts with POR15????

[@ForceBuilt]

How is this holding up now? Thanks for the video!

[@FlyingWheels]

FuturaForce still really looks great under there after a full winter. The gloss is starting to dull though

[@midlwestern3237]

Does it stay glossy and shiny like that? Or does it dry more to become more of a matte black?

[@FlyingWheels]

Mine styled pretty glossy even after winter. It did dull out eventually

[@midlwestern3237]

@@FlyingWheels oh okay, I'm looking for a product that finishes matte right away. Do it looks more like the factory finish

[@TreesOnTheBeach]

So how did it hold up long term?

[@spike443]

Its not bad to paint over the bolts? Seems like they'd be on forever?

[@vonlupus]

i've read painting the driveshaft can screw up the balance, is this true?

[@mopedracer8692]

No This is Not True :)

[@rixille]

If the paint settles more towards the bottom of the shaft it can actually weight more in that particular area. This *could* theoretically cause a imbalance when it spins. If you are careful and paint it on really thin and let that dry, it shouldn't amass towards the bottom.

[@trevorjaster4072]

True

[@vvFanboy]

Is there a diagram of the Jeep or some sort of guide we can follow to apply this in places we’re not sure of?

[@FlyingWheels]

vvFanboy we did everything we could. If you can get to it, do it

[@kitjeep]

How did this product hold up ?

[@FlyingWheels]

Sean Knight still really looks great under there after a full winter. The gloss is starting to dull though

[@luxstar4life]

The basecoat is not uv protected.

[@FlyingWheels]

It looked so good with a gloss too

[@MrMe-lf2ov]

@@FlyingWheels Decreasing should be done with the POR brand marine stuff, then the POR brand etching solution will drastically improve adhesion of POR to unrusted bare spots. After the POR is applied, a top coat (any brand paint) should be applied as POR is not UV resilient.

[@rixille]

@@FlyingWheels You could actually put paint on top of the POR-15 to help prolong what is underneath it.

[@jwester7009]

Never paint directly on top of rust regardless what any product says. Anyway to follow the instructions you have to first use Por15 degreaser, then Por15 metal prep to neutralize and protect any remaining rust. Then you can ad Por15 paint. And it doesn't stop there because it breaks down over time when exposed to UV light. So your need a top coat on top of the Por15 paint

[@deifor]

Damn that sounds expensive.

[@trevorthomas6043]

Por15 is my go to for rust.There is a company called KBS products, I wouldn’t b able to tell the difference. Kbs products are half the price.

[@phochman1]

2019 update? I am interested on doing this with my jk....how did it hold up?

[@marka8537]

Phillip Hochman peels right off

[@trevorjaster4072]

@@marka8537 that is what i have been hearing how is the rustoleum rust converter spray paint shit

[@alb12345672]

@@trevorjaster4072 shit. I prepped my explorer,knocked off all rust,used rust converter, primer, 2 layers of paint and a two years later it is back to where it was. Maybe it bought an extra two years.

[@redneckindustries]

Do a video in 1 year to see how the product holds up!! Painted my 2013 JKU using TREMCLAD rust-prevention and it almost completely washed off in 3 months!!!

[@FlyingWheels]

I love the way it looks right now A month later. Hope it holds up

[@Jewmanjee]

At 31 seconds I thought "WOW HIS HANDS ARE FKING HUGE!" Then I realized it was the quart size

[@bobbygene8451]

thats what his wife said

[@dominickbuffaline9337]

what would it cost to get 2 layers of this applied to my car by u guys?

[@FlyingWheels]

Dominick Buffaline it's not cheap. $800+

[@marka8537]

Gah ahaha! I just spit out my coffee. Total rip off!

[@waynebeck7801]

I think this only works if painted over rust.

[@tgmotz]

What did you do to apply POR 15 to the inside of the frame to prevent it from rusting from the inside out?

[@FlyingWheels]

Tom Gwozdz we didn't get it inside the frame. I don't know how we would have done that

[@tgmotz]

I did some light research on available products and so far it looks like Eastwood Internal Frame Coating is the way to go. Easy to apply but prep-work can be a bitch if there's significant rust.

[@spo5egy]

Inside frames I use dinitrol and the spray head extension shoots in all directions. Well worth it.

[@FlyingWheels]

Thanks for the tip! I will look into that

[@reyokay]

Best way, from my experience, to help prevent or stop rust from corroding these frames from the inside out is to use a lubricant such as Fluid Film or CRC 06026 Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor.

[@gazilla25]

It’s rusted because it’s got a plow mount, hopefully it helps with the por

[@FlyingWheels]

Richard Morici the plow has only been on for 1 season. It was rusty before

[@billharvey9959]

Do you offer this as a service

[@FlyingWheels]

We do it in house. Cost is around $500

[@RottFink]

Do y'all put this on customers Jeeps? Where are Y'all located? I'm close to Augusta, ME.

[@FlyingWheels]

RottFink yes we do. We are in Danville New Hampshire

[@atroche1978]

Good old New England winters

[@alexsenchuk5939]

Do a checkup please!

[@FlyingWheels]

Alex Senchuk will do after winter

[@marka8537]

I’m waiting with bells on lmao

[@braydensdeals]

Update?

[@FlyingWheels]

braydensdeals winter just ended. Held up really well. Gloss is fading a bit.

[@FlyingWheels]

braydensdeals still really looks great under there after a full winter. The gloss is starting to dull though

[@johnw4590]

Great job!

[@yocarney1]

Did you do the marine cleaner and etcher or just paint it right on?

[@FlyingWheels]

Thomas Carney I used a Degreaser and a power washer

[@FlyingWheels]

Thomas Carney we used a Degreaser and power washer and then applied it by hand

[@ekuryluk]

1:09 “its a 2017, so it’s 3 years old” ? Helpful video, though. Was it a mess to apply? I watched another video and the guy suited up like he was cleaning a hazmat spill.

[@wattjock]

@0:05 ~ Today we have a 2014 Jeep Wrangler...”

[@trevorjaster4072]

My 2004 4runner has the same amount of rust

[@memyself5817]

HOW PAINT LOOKS UNDERNEATH MY JEEP. Nothing to do with rust prevention.

[@hayzersolar]

you did it all wrong. por 15 is a 3 step process. first clean then use a etcher then 2 light coats. por 15 needs a top coat because it doent have any uv protection. amazing stuff if it is used right way. one more thing it needs the surface to have rust on it.

[@marka8537]

Better than nothing, but it’s gonna peel right off. Also, Jeep doesn’t paint their frames well. Junk and... junk

[@Terquilla]

It’s paint over rust, not paint over paint. Any parts with rust under the paint will continue to rust.

[@rixille]

Yeah which is why you want to use a needle brush to strip and flake off all that bad paint first.

[@parajeeper]

POR is a great product

[@marka8537]

Payratroopah 108 you must work for them or you have no idea how to test for chipping and peeling

[@foskco87]

@@marka8537 What would you recommend?

[@marka8537]

David, sandblast, prime and paint. If you can’t do that, get as much rust off as possible and brush on a few coats of asphalt primer found at any roofing supply

[@user-uz2bk1hs4c]

What to expect when everybody drives naked frames thru salt. Pay for a professional undercoating service before it forms..

[@ej9147]

Undercoating works well up until it gets a chip in it, then all that salt gets underneath and causes more rot and rust........

[@rustyshackelford9156]

Better yet, manufacturers should undercoat at the factory. That's obviously the best time to do it since each part can be submerged in paint/undercoating. Or the whole frame before it's installed. Why car companies are choosing not to do this I don't know. It almost seems intentional to limit the lifespan of the vehicle. When everything is installed, even the pros can't get to each nook and cranny so a professional undercoating job is only so-so effective.

[@rustyshackelford9156]

Seems that way. Rust is usually the first killer where they salt the roads.

[@deankay4434]

First saw naked differentials on the Buick RoadMaster's at the dealer when new in 1992. It's been downhill since then as the lack of factory undercoating or paint came increase the profit margins for the...Greedy Unions. In Troy area for work, the UAW workers where pissed because they had to contribute an extra $23 a month for free Health Insurance. The local TV channel interviewed a UAW worker at the end of his driveway. Behind him was a 36' boat, 2 newer Cadillacs next to a nice two story brick house on a new asphalt driveway. I felt real sorry for him as he would have 1 less 12 pack of beer to take on his boat.

[@MrEeeaddict]

@@deankay4434 You idiot, yeah blame the unions for switch parts from metal to plastic too!

[@phoenix21studios]

if its not breathable you just killed the jeep. Undercoat HAS to be breathable.

[@williamwinters3396]

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