Is RaceRoom Still worth it in 2023?

[@ondrejkratochvil4589]

R3E huge pro: Netcode that allows really close racing & some door rubbing, combined with class like WTCR it makes just perfect racing experience :)

[@yanushkowalsky1402]

yes! the netcode is great

[@cmacdhon]

RaceRoom is awesome. I have no idea what it feels like to drive a race car, but the physics feel real enough to me. You are really missing out if you dismiss the sim because it's older or doesn't have mods.

[@virtualpaddock]

RaceRoom may look somewhat dated, but it's still an awesome sim. I don't play it as much as I used to unfortunately, but everytime I'm in RaceRoom, I absolutely love it. Great selection of cars and tracks, great FFB, and the physics feel realistic as well. I do wish they'd add driver swaps for online racing though - I feel like it would be an amazing endurance sim, especially for something like NLS. Awesome video, you gained a new subscriber!

[@OliverDvnn]

I completely agree. Thanks!

[@Swattii]

Graphics don't mean much. If it looks dated, that's technically a good thing since it will be easier to run on most computers. The game is free after all which allows for more folks to give it a try.

[@TheMash84]

Graphic overhaul coming on 4th September!

[@disapwned]

I wonder why Europe have so many users, in comparison with America. We need more ppl in this side of the puddle... great sim

[@OliverDvnn]

100%. Motorsport is slowly growing in the Americas, and I can’t wait for it to reach its peak.

[@BurtSampson]

always like that with the more serious racing games. Foreigners just like motor sports more than americans i guess.

[@lordfatcock]

Same. All I've ever heard is people bashing on this game, but I love it.

[@Wilsonandcars]

Mostly because Oval racing has dominated the USA for a very long time. Hopefully America expands , I would really like to play race room more and they are working on updates.

[@BurtSampson]

@@lordfatcock It's a great game. I'm a huge fan of AMS 2, especially now after the new update, but I think R3E is still my fave. I don't know though, AMS 2 on a DD is probably the best you can get FFB wise. Feels great. I like RaceRooms physics, and especially their weight transfer, more.

[@VaderMonkeyGaming]

I absolutely and resolutely love Raceroom. Out of all the sim racing games I find this the best and most consistant Sim Racing game out there. Yes the graphics maybe dated, but the content is as current as most sims and feels more organic in terms of its users. I find that the other sims allow the more hardcore sim racer to peacock about with all the modding on offer. However Raceroom is simply a no BS sim, you do your "peacocking" on the track and not drawing attention to yourself with a pretty livery. Speaking of cars & liveries, Raceroom offers such a diverse and nostalgic yet origality on sim racing and it's netcode is (from what I've heard from other sim racers) the best out there. I've never had an issue, glitch or system error on Raceroom. The only error I've ever had to endure is my own skill issue, through either misjudgement while racing or simply not being quick enough. It's a shame that it's maybe not as popular as some other sims, but it's certainly value for money compared to thers. Loving your content, keep up the excellent work.

[@tomblanckaert4089]

the Graphics may be a bit out dated. but you'll soon forget about that when you're in a heated close race. the racing itself feels much closer than ac for me.

[@AdrenaLukeYT]

The graphics are updated now!! And I think it has the best driving feel of any sim, but it does lack in track detail unfortunately. I'm injured now, but I bought most of the DLC for raceroom so I can't wait to heal from my injury so I can get back to racing!! I might make a video when I'm healed on my channel of a pros and cons list of raceroom in 2025 🤔

[@rossaldrich6357]

Another Pro: The single player custom championship builder... If online racing isn't your thing, or you are new to sim racing, but put off by the hardcore racers bashing you over your mistakes, the single player builder gives you the ability to develop your skills with an adaptive AI that gets better as your skills develop, and you get to choose the mix of tracks and cars (i.e. multi class events are no issue here). This is where that HUGE selection of tracks and cars really comes into play.

[@jovaniseptovich5110]

I have just recently got back to raceroom, and jeezz the ffb, the physics, the braking in this sim feels just right

[@AdrenaLukeYT]

To me it feels kinda arcade-like, but I'm probably spoiled by ACC and rF2

[@jovaniseptovich5110]

@@AdrenaLukeYT perhaps its because the road surface is too smooth in raceroom.

[@AdrenaLukeYT]

@@jovaniseptovich5110 that's not what I think felt the most weird. To me, the braking felt the most arcade-like of anything, but the dampers also felt very strange (and no I don't mean the in-game setup needed adjusted, I mean the actual physics of the compression and rebound, before you ask about me adjusting the dampers lol) both of those felt one-dimensional and also corrections in the weight transfer didn't feel right either, idk.. I'm definitely not gonna slam the door on it I will give it more chances and try it more, but again I think I'm just spoiled from ACC and rF2 which are both very hard to beat in realism.

[@AdrenaLukeYT]

@@jovaniseptovich5110 but also just to add one more thing... I felt like I was getting away with way too much in certain places at Spa, and then in other places it was way too easy to lose control, so that again kinda ties into the "one-dimensional" aspect I'm talking about but what I'm actually feeling and thinking of can't really be articulated and I wish I could put it into words. I guess I'm trying to say something along the lines that it doesn't feel consistent, and it's "on vs off" type of physics rather than it being gradual/progressive physics. Granted, I'm exaggerating to make a point here though as well. If anything, it feels better than any other sim-cade game I've tried including Forza motorsport, F1 code master games, gran Turismo, etc. But at the same time this doesn't feel like a true sim to me. It's kinda weird idk haha. But I'm drawn to it because of its peculiar nature of being an odd one in the bunch where I think it's too casual and arcade-like to be a "true sim" but at the same time, it's too realistic to be categorized as a "sim-cade" so what exactly do we call it? I guess we just call it raceroom 🤷‍♂️ sorry for the 5,000 word essay, it's 4:08 AM I better get to bed

[@OliverDvnn]

I think I know what your getting at here. The primary sim I play is rf2, which famously has physics very much on the oversteery side. When I got into raceroom for the first time, I felt like it was almost arcade like because it was too easy to keep the car under control. However, as I played for prolonged periods of time, I found that it simulates everything that I thought it didn’t well, it was just less sensitive to inputs, in a way sort of like AC. Everybody has their own experiences, but that was mine.

[@subarusumeragi2331]

Great vid. This is my favorite sim at the moment. It feels better than anything else on my G27. Regarding the classic content, what is there is stellar. The Group 5s, Group Cs, BMW M1 and DTM 1992s are some of the most fun I've ever had on a sim.

[@OliverDvnn]

There are some great classic content in there, I just think that when their are sims like rf2, ac, and gtr2, it makes raceroom as classic content look relatively small. However, the classic content that we do have in raceroom is great.

[@sshoveitt]

The sparks and the dirt clouds are so well made in Raceroom that I dare to say they are the most realistically looking in all the racing genre. There is something very special about them especially the sparks. Raceroom is a beast of a sim and maybe is a good thing that it stays out of sign for the mainstream racing crowd

[@SimRacing604]

Really great video. Thanks for this. I agree with most of your points; it’s an excellent sim overall. Unfortunately my computer can’t run it. It freezes after the first few laps, even in solo practice. Bummer, because I really want to get back into it. Anyway, thanks for the great vid!

[@OliverDvnn]

Thanks lots, bummer you can’t run it. It was an honor to have you watch my video!

[@dannyadams5250]

This game runs fine on my pc. However, I have paid for some content and no matter what I do, that content won’t open. Thackeray still show that they have not been paid for. I have been charged up to three times and the cars are still not available.

[@dannyadams5250]

Check that! My cars just started to open. Strange!

[@OliverDvnn]

@@dannyadams5250 wow, that sucks. Tried raceroom support? They might give you refunds or help you solve the problem.

[@jovaniseptovich5110]

there has been on going issue like this on raceroom, and they have dedicated topic to report it on their official discord

[@blenga2]

The biggest 👍👍 for me is its Competitions tab with bi-weekly combinations of cars and tracks for us to freely time attack and go up on a leaderboard ! Especially the FIXED SETUP time attack competitions, where I can just sit down and drive the cars as they are and work on MY SKILLS to try to get high in the ranking. This keeps me really addicted, I always come back for more !

[@stefanherbst2303]

I agree with your views, I love RRE. Great video

[@OliverDvnn]

Thanks!

[@asmrrainbow3087]

Ive been playing Raceroom for so many years and defintely my No.1 fav sim. I tried AC, AMS and others. But I always come back to RRE.

[@jam_Svl]

You just got a new subscriber great video I love race room so far

[@kevin_m]

Subbed Oliver! Great video here and has me excited to try more content in the game. I've been branching outside of my comfort zone with different cars and tracks I have not tried yet. For a 2013 game RaceRoom is still a lot of fun!

[@OliverDvnn]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@BurtSampson]

RaceRoom is an absolute gem.

[@BobCorey]

Very nice indeed...and the fact you can start racing for free on this one...SO GOOD

[@JGWGamingUK]

very nice video. great to find your channel. love Raceroom.

[@MatthewRunyon-n4g]

The driving experience and sense of grip is really unreal compared to other sims. I personally think a lot of other sims have a way of being unrealistically unforgiving and I think RaceRoom strikes a great balance where you can really feel out the grip of the cars and drive on the limit. The AI also is quite nice for me as someone who races offline a good bit. Sadly the sim is absolutely getting left behind and they need to update the core engine before it's too late.

[@edteach3r]

I agree, wholeheartedly. I love the way RRRE drives and sounds, but I am oh-so slow compared to AI. In AC and ACC, I can hold my own, but the Raceroom AI drivers just blow me out of the water.

[@BenTrem42]

Thanks. It's been so long since I last drove I had all the sims muddled! AC was pretty clear, but I really bogged down with comparing iRacing and RaceRoom. _Glad I found nice!_ ^5

[@brummiegaming8008]

Nice Video, im a a couple of months into sim racing, casually playing on ACC and AC at the moment. I played this briefly, might invest in the pro pack as you recommended though as i have zero content on there 👍 GL with your channel too 🍻

[@OliverDvnn]

Thanks lots! I hope your enjoying the hobby as much as I am.

[@panvlk]

Skip the pro pack. Out of the 3 packs it's the worst value. It's better to try the starter pack first and then upgrade directly to premium, skipping the pro pack entirely (all purchases done with vRP, not steam wallet).

[@OliverDvnn]

@@panvlk your %100 right. I think I actually said the premium pack in the video but mixed the two up when responding to their comment. Thanks for the correction!

[@Diveraaa]

This is actually the perfect video. I just downloaded the game, then i see this.

[@brandonchappell1535]

After doing 1 race, it felt so authentic to me, i bought the ultimate/premium pack. DX9 is pretty crap though. Also kinda sux i bought the most exspensive pack but as new content is released it doesnt get added to ur pack, so you almost get punished for being an earlier supporter

[@lebagnard6018]

I think the argument of many people that say the game has old graphics is kind of irrelevant for a sim. What you expect from a sim is the fidelity of the behaviour of the car from the real life.

[@dougroberts3840]

I've been with Raceroom since it first came out, and I love it, one thing I think you should of said is that Raceroom is actually free, if you want additional cars and tracks, those you have to pay for, also, you can test drive any car before you buy it.

[@michael1]

It's not free at all is it? It just has a stupid business model because they tried to jump on a "free 2 play" bandwagon, but didn't actually have any free content worth playing, and it just made the sim ridiculously overpriced compared with everything else. The guys developing it are clueless and useless too. The same bunch of idiots that did 'race pro' on 360 - an epic failure - but they showed how untrustworthy and dishonest they were at that time by failing to release the promised 'race pro' demo, not telling customers that the game was crap and not fixing it - at the time, together with 'Atari' they were banning people who mentioned the demo or talked about the game's many faults - the bottom line is they had no clue how to develop for the console but did the wrong thing about that. Compare with other titles and you'll see they've got other experienced devs to port their games over. Their dishonesty is something they've carried forwards onto this title being too happy with their ban and delete buttons. The bottom line is : there were significantly better sims that made this not worth buying or playing that had more content and you didn't have to pay for that content piecewise when race room first appeared. That's why this title failed miserably with no players for years. That is still true today. It's still the last racing game that anyone sane would throw money at. That some of you are giving them money out of pity may be commendable in your nature, but sometimes it's better to know when to let something die rather than keeping it alive in pain and misery. Although, undoubtedly these idiots will change the name of the company once again and try and dupe more people out of their money as they keep doing (like another bald headed guy who once worked with them does)

[@dman757575]

Main issue: no lambo License

[@OliverDvnn]

Petition for lambo in raceroom

[@dsjunges]

Raceroom is amazing ... definetly is the most underrated sim game

[@outl]

the Oceania server is quite dead honestly, which really frustrated for me. just only 3 people joining in every single race. I always have a bad feeling when I join Europe servers because of high ping. note that I only use mobile hotspot to play raceroom. I hope some people give a lot of attention for Oceania server

[@jessiemoore3094]

I just want a good sim that has classic muscle and tuner cars. They need to make a need for speed underground 2 or midnight club type game with I racing physics (only sim I have a decent chunk of experience in)

[@jamesleegte]

It needs a new graphics engine! I know too many people who can’t get it to run on decent PC’s, people who get random freezes or crashes and don’t trust it because of that. I’ve never had any issues with raceroom and I race in VR. They need to go back to weekly servers and not this stupid fortnightly set up. They need time progression too and weather. Essentially they are now so far behind the minimum standard expected from a sim that people are leaving. I love raceroom, but as a fan I’ve seen the online numbers plummet over the last three years and they have done nothing to remedy people leaving. They even admitted the whole game is Jerry rigged and breaks after any new content is added. New graphics engine and weekly servers and watch people return!

[@vaenii5056]

Good news for you! They are working on an engine update, allowing them to finally implement things like improved graphics, time progression and weather. Content-wise I would love a few more cars for IMSA GTO, Group A and Group 5. Also Chrysler Viper GTS-R, Corvette C5R and Road Atlanta.😄

[@jJustPlayingNZ]

Con - difficulty of proper triple screens. Currently I just can't get it to work and why should I have to create a custom resolution in Nvidia to get it working. Over the years I have had lots of difficulty getting it working.

[@OliverDvnn]

Sorry to hear that, haven’t heard of that issue before. If it really is that bad it should definitely be improved!

[@jJustPlayingNZ]

@@OliverDvnn Used to work with a TriScr startup parameter in Steam. They changed that and I have had it working fine with aspect ratio of 48:9, but for some reason (maybe my fault) that ratio has disappeared from the choices. You can use nVidia surround but few people want to as it's not much good. You are supposed to be able to get it working by creating a custom resolution in nVidia control panel but this crashes my system. My point is that other sims have easily working triple support so why not RaceRoom. I like Raceroom but this just annoys me. Of course not many users have triples so not a lot of demand but that's not the point.

[@koferbizarre4175]

I love raceroom... for a casual intermediate driver the physics of RR are pretty good... like GT7 or what not.. I think for a better maintenanca of servers and details which are missplaced on my opinion they should be a monthly pay.. like 2 dollars I think anyone can pay. they need ppl working constantly or more ppl... RR can be much much more.

[@drivejapan6293]

The biggest con for me is the overly strict track boundary's. Even iRacing doesn't penalize me this much.

[@Jacob_Weiser]

I KNOW, one pixel off and youre punished so heavily. some corners seem to have a bigger punishment than others for no discernable reason

[@mickaelsflow6774]

Sad it doesn't play well in VR... old engine's only weakness...

[@guily6669]

If they even made a new GT Legends, I would throw all my money into the screen cause it was the only single EVER simulator that I liked the career mode but the good old GTR series were also something pretty powerful but on them I just did countless time attacks mostly... I did enjoy some simulators online but I care more for offline career mode and not a single one is good, hell even GT is getting more realistic each gen but the career also got massively worse and it's still not a pure sim, the new Forza Motorsport really hit GOLD in the gameplay, it's finally amazing kinda to a GT simcade level but the rest of the game is just pure GARBAGE from career mode to the worse AI EVER... Still waiting for a proper sim with good career mode mixed with a lot of stuff kinda like good old GT series but in a pure sim game though I won't deny that GT gameplay have always been different and I totally like their own gameplay.

[@OliverDvnn]

I share a lot of your opinions here. I really think ppl underestimate what a good single player career could do for a simulator, something i hope ams2 and Le Mans will deliver on.

[@GolemsYT]

No official NASCAR or even trucks and senoma raceway doesn't even have an oval layout. Also Bathurst but no v8 supercars

[@thanosgalanis3053]

It crashes all the time and my Radeon drivers don't work after I reset the PC. Too bad and I really enjoy drive it

[@jozsefnagyracing]

Raceroom the No1 sim 👍👌🏁

[@FidBraun]

IRacing still the best but way too expensive. And RaceRoom > ACC, so in my opinion its the best to have. Only con is that it has way too less users (even in Europe)

[@311superfly]

Great experience with GTX 970 sc and six core i5.

[@Jacob_Weiser]

Even with just a 2200g it's a great experience. Really optimized well

[@charleschilders2041]

I got all content years ago. I am so far behind it would cost much more than the premium package. I would gladly pay for the premium again to get all the content up to date but I cannot. I will not pay them much more. Raceroom let me help you. Do not punish me for buying all content years ago. I have raised this many times over the years. I am always ignored.

[@yllaimi]

what do you think about using controller in raceroom?

[@OliverDvnn]

I wouldn’t recommend it in raceroom. The assists for using controller aren’t really there. If you want a racing simulator on controller I would recommend rfactor 2, or wrc generations. Both have fantastic controller support and with practice you can be just as fast as someone with a wheel.

[@georgesummer536]

@@OliverDvnnbro u are drunk if u recommend rFactor 2 for controller lmao actually Racerom is the only sim on PC where controller or even better the mouse do the job basically as good as wheels and there is plenty really fast guys on this kind of gear

[@Jacob_Weiser]

I use controller for race room, and often get top 10 times. It's definitely got a learning curve, but there are options you can change to make it better. Get used to having the steering stick facing up on straights and avoid bringing it to true center for optimal control. You can also change steering sensitivity and curve so that when using this technique you have a linear range of motion. If you can get the hang of driving in RR, it makes driving in other games heaps easier

[@LogBrickN1]

Does this support VR and a wheel at the same time

[@OliverDvnn]

The vr support is poor-mediocre but yes it does. No major issues though.

[@petrescudumitru7031]

The game does not open, I uninstalled and installed three times and it gives error... That's after I put some money into it. Fix the error!

[@nospoon4799]

Compatibility mode can be a friend.

[@yanushkowalsky1402]

anyone feels like RWD cars are pain to drive? once you lose the rear end there is nothing you can do. the grip is never recovered neither on the front or the rear

[@razvanbalcan312]

My question is , how u get vrp?

[@OliverDvnn]

Here: www.raceroomstore.com/shop_en/list_page?cat=24 and make sure to select your region in the top right.

[@razvanbalcan312]

@@OliverDvnn so theres no way to win vrp?

[@OliverDvnn]

Actually there is, you can by going to the competition tab, and the ones at the top all have prizes for the top 30, and some might some at the bottom might but I’m not sure. I think it lets you play the ones at the top even without owning the content, and only a few let you do that on the bottom.

[@whoyou77]

Great sim so underrated.

[@meecob]

Great Sim. Just needs a bit more polish, that's all 😊

[@nicowustenfeld7681]

😀💥💥💥

[@WhippyWhipGaming]

drives fantastic but looks like ass, especially the car interiors, they are just pumping out cars and tracks without updating any core features for the last few years now especially things like dynamic tracks and weather, they are being left behind

[@H-4-D3423]

Worse bit of advice I've ever seen online - no wonder you only have 342 subs in 3.5 years. To be fair, you simply didn't cover anything in enough depth here - which is a fair summary of this game. It tries to do a million things, and fails at many. To insult manufacturers too, the developer can't even be arsed to license the real cars that many cars are based on. So these cars are like a poor mens mods. *No Aston Martin (old or new) *No Lamborghini (old or new) *Lots of missing famous UK tracks *Lots of missing famous US tracks *Lots of missing missing EU tracks *Poor support for gamepad compared to other race titles *No rain *No fog *No day to night cycle *Game engine from 2013, which was based on even older technology *Game is a DLC cash-cow for the developer (by the way I own almost ever DLC pack) *Devs announced they'd update it, yet so far have done almost nothing worth reporting about since *Formula cars aren't from official manufacturers *Formula truck isn't from a real manufacturer *Radio silence since last May after dev did interview to talk about outdated engine and the need to rewrite it If you've built/upgraded a PC in the past 5 or 6 years, this is a waste of your investment long-term. Even locked at 60fps, it doesn't run smooth like modern engines do. The tech is that old and poorly coded. Honestly, buy something more modern, even the physics here aren't that special in 2024. Hold off until the devs bring a new graphics engine and rewrite/gut the web-code and the UI. I say this, because we've no idea when it will happen. Without rain/night, it's a long term boring game. It doesn't matter how cheap something is, if you're going to uninstall it. I've owned the game from the start and don't even have it installed now. So, a short misleading opinion piece here. With Assetto Corsa Evo around the corner, and the possibility that GT Revivial might be worth buying if reviews are awesome - then this isn't worth it yet. It will take a rewrite and major improvement before I'll go back to RRE. With rain in iRacing, and with new modern content and tracks added at every turn there are even more reasons to go that route. They are also improving code so that it can make more use of more modern processors. They've also expanded the iRacing dev team with the subs they earn. DLC will be expanded at a much higher rate, plus they are also now going to make their own new gfx engine, and test parts of it by introducing it into the current engine first. Plus there are several new DLC developments and racing projects to be released, that aren't fully revealed yet.