Is REED RICHARDS the NEW KANG? - Marvel's New BIG BAD, Explained

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Written by Ryan Januszewski
Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Randolf Nombrado, Lee Mazzio, Rachel Hutchings, and Paulina Perez-Perez
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[@ScreenCrush]

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[@VitaPlenaReactionVideos]

The only thing I really want from my Mr. Fantastic is to see him portrayed as neurodivergent. It's something we have yet to see accurately portrayed on big screen superhero films.

[@Snack79]

@@VitaPlenaReactionVideos It's pretty much a defining characteristic of Reed. He understands things on a different level than anyone else. I think Ryan has it spot on. Bring back Miles as the Maker!! That could bring it all together in a great way. Think about watching all the movies, after they're all released. As a kid who would have watched all the movies. This would make up for the horrible 2015 movie.

[@jasonolson1593]

I wish Marvel would just got ahead and hand Ryan the reigns. Every pitch he does is better than what we end up with.

[@zim857]

Every single time. The problem with companies like Disney is they don’t hire real fans like Ryan. They always seem to choose the wrong people

[@joshbarrigada]

this is pretty accurate, when he was talking about the whole knight wing thing, i was soooo excited, i wish him and his team were show runners or producers.

[@Keithhatesy0u]

Both his and Coltons ideas are straight terrible contrivances that wouldn't sell to modern audiences

[@mlc4050]

Could be worse, could be Kathleen Kennedy :(

[@deadpanwalking]

@@zim857 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@ThePoliticalBulldog]

like most headlines that are questions - the answer is no, probably not.

[@brady50429]

They post it just in case they get it right so they can say I told you so.

[@SynisterPride]

Without a real build up of reed Richard’s the hero I feel like this idea would fall flat for most fans

[@IronDad-ml3wq]

I'm on board, but I also I think we see God Emperor Doom in the postcredit scene of Deadpool & Wolverine, revealed to be manipulating the TVA into a version compatible with his own Secret Wars plans. - GED uses the Void as Battleworld. He's nauseated by the thought of endless lesser copies of himself, so he's not trying to 'stop Kang' or 'replace Kang' - he wants to end the multiverse altogether, and be a true God Emperor Doom. So he's working to induce simultaneous omniversal incursion, collapsing all reality into one essential plane of existence (the next universe that post-multiverse-saga folk live in). - The Maker comes in, in the ways and for the reasons you describe, and leads the X-Men to try to preserve as much of 'his' / 'their' reality as possible in this new universe. - Reed and his family escape the incursion that his universe's Galactus causes, which destroys their home universe in the Fantastic Four movie coming out in 2025. After that, Reed leads the Avengers and 616 to try to prevent any more incursions, being horrified at what an incursion did to his own home. Throw all that into a giant bag and shake vigorously. Voila! X-Men: Secret Wars (replacing Avengers: Kang Dynasty) in 2026, Avengers: Secret Wars in 2027.

[@OldHenryLee]

The best is when you fast forward the advertisement part right at the exact end of it on the first attempt 🎉 ... Wish it happened more often

[@TheKlownTimes]

That's actually a very dope theory. Miles Teller as a bad guy variant of Reed Richards -- I like it!

[@lopaka76]

Doug, you're a good boy. Don't burn down the building. Perhaps Ryan can give you belly rubs and extra treats.

[@crunchtime6244]

Isn’t it alittle to earlier for reed Richards’s maker alias to make a live action appearance

[@mchljunior_]

waaaaaaaay too early but maybe he gets set up like Thanos and we don't see him for a long while

[@EdWedgie]

It’s just screencrush being screencrush

[@Bman32x]

Multiverse of madness. We already got Illuminati Reed before the regular Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four

[@eansba88-]

I mean, you can have both iterations, reed and maker exist at the same time. Never acknowledge maker is reed, until it's fitting for a shocking reveal. I didn't know who the maker was until watching this just now, and I assume most casual fans, like myself would be equally as clueless. It could be a "I am your father" moment. The only issue with that is, if you use the name maker, the twist will get spoiled right away by videos and articles like this... So, do it, but give em a new red herring name.

[@marvelsteveo]

The Maker isn't one of the best villians, just the most recent

[@denzelpeoples2223]

Miles Teller as the Maker is a genius idea. I can see in one of the Avengers movies, getting John Krazinski, Pedro Pascal, Ioan Gruffodd and even Alex Hyde-White (if they really wanna correct Marvel mistakes) to face off against Miles' Reed. It would be similar to Spiderman No Way Home in how the older 2 Peter's had to stop Holland's from killing the Green Goblin.

[@luisbermudez4756]

Okay. That’s it. That’s the best ad you’ve ever woven into one of your videos.

[@stevengraham3800]

I love it! Especially the part where Doug plays Wolverine.

[@richeather2000]

The could also be the story line regarding the Counsel of Reeds. Them verses the Kang variants could set up the Maker/Kang team up .

[@everettharris967]

I hit "like" the second you showed Randell Park when discussing Jim Halpert (6:02)

[@onlyNICKname]

Holy crap, this could actually work. Great idea Ryan. The Maker is awesome

[@ryadinstormblessed8308]

Another excellent example of Miles Teller's acting chops is in The Offer

[@kevinjohnson7631]

So side question. In MoM Christine says that they designated the MCU as 616 and that their own as 838. Why , if they were the ones doling out the numbers wouldn't they designate themselves s 1. AND even more, if someone else designated them 838, would they give another universe a lower number?

[@mrajw2456]

i knew they would make one of the two former live action reed richards into the maker

[@SmokeGSU]

If the F4 movie is going to explore the F4 doing some universe-hopping then it would kind of make sense to see Miles Teller pop up as The Maker... *but not immediately*. Maybe he's saved from an incursion by Pedro's F4 group, sorta like Matt Damon's character from Interstellar, and is brought to their universe, or Teller's version winds up in another universe where he then becomes The Maker. This could take Teller's Reed from being a one-shot villain who lives and dies in one single movie to having an actual arc that is explored across a trilogy of F4 films similar to Thanos's arc in multiple movies.

[@infobro]

❤ this. Thank for attending @RyanArey's Ted Talk. This precise redemption for Fant4stic had been a real sticking big in my craw. The entire layout for a villainous recast is laid bare for anyone to see. Casting fine, rationale could be bold or nuanced and cliff hangered but building the city. The "cataclysm" as I like to call it and the helmet. Oh yes! All of the YESES!

[@gunslinger1005]

5:06 Oh, oh, oh … I see what you did there

[@omari6108]

12:09-12:10 I peeped that “4” I’m the rocks. I see you guys!!!

[@colinwoonsue]

Thanks for the DisPlate nod. Didn’t know about it 😊

[@apeman505]

I gotta pause the video for a second. BEST PRODUCT PLACEMENT IN A KZbin VIDEO EVER.

[@rossdiddy29]

This is a big-brain idea! It'll make the 2015 FF movie relevant. You could have a scene with Majors being taken out by Reed, in the first 10 minutes of the next Avengers movie.

[@tracyduchienjr5945]

I swear, WHY hasn't Marvel hired ScreenCrush at this point!?!

[@anthonym.7755]

DCU needs em more! 😢

[@itzzoebihh3712]

Because all they have to do is read the comics just like he did🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Keenum33]

For what?

[@dorderre]

Because if they did, their movies wouldn't suck anymore - and they clearly don't want that.

[@fatcrruise6508]

well branches sometimes collapsed to another branch

[@ShinySephiroth1]

6:04 I love how this joke literally never gets old 😂

[@Chrisfernandez97]

I would love this! I’ve been telling everyone that they should use miles teller to be the maker since his story ended so early

[@mackado]

Aaaaaah, the lead up as heroes go to take down Kang in his citadel, only to find out it's actually the council of Reeds would be great.

[@amine15777]

Consil of reed variants would be dope

[@colehyena3247]

I would say Phase 7 or 8 we get Fantastic Four 2 with The Maker returning after Secret Wars

[@Dingleberry69420]

Ryan arie is always cooking 🍳

[@jeffreytimbang6756]

Ngl, this plot is a great storyline. But way too confusing for casual movie goers.

[@dsl145]

I want.... Screencrush team to be brought in for marvel script and plot reviews!

[@Bman32x]

For the multiverse arc, I could see The Maker being the replacement. Then, once that’s dealt with IF they do Kang Dynasty before Secret Wars/Battle world, that’s what will roll Dr Doom into being the definitive big bad.

[@joshhamilton7078]

FINALLY! ScreenCruch dives into the latest issues of Ultimate Invasion and beyond - More of this plz!!

[@moneyoverall]

This is 🔥

[@abhinavjha8770]

Is KEVIN the maker??

[@solvseus]

We... we don't talk about that anymore.

[@t22c]

Good Video!

[@MisterGravelrama]

I love this idea! You said it perfectly that Kevin Feige wants to not only make everything count & be connected, but to make it better so it has more value as the story progresses. Your theories are always clever & well thought out. I hope you are right. What a ride that will be!

[@evrywerigoable]

I love it Ryan, let’s throw HateMonger in because it’s the 60s, and use the Leopold Fitz from AoS framework

[@evrywerigoable]

He can give a Framework prototype to Arnim Zola.

[@kielwamsley4575]

I just keep picturing the council and how we can have Pedro, Krasinski, Teller, and Gruffudd on the same screen. I have a feeling we'll see Krasinski again. Teller as the Maker is a great idea.

[@UnkemptHerald]

curious, these theories are all so good, is there a playlist of Screen Crush getting something right?

[@Trailblazerz710]

Clap, clap, clap, bravo, Ryan, bravo

[@AnotherSWnerd]

I had the same thing in mind for the maker being miles teller

[@zeroreyortsed3624]

Doug has been watching too much Harold and Kumar 😂. "Come on pookie! Let's burn this MF down!!" 😂

[@cedfarmer898]

14:38 + THE MANDARIN in Shang Chi, Electro in TASM2, TASM2 in general

[@shaunl9777]

Just bring Majors back like they brought back Gunn

[@McCrapweasel]

9:49 I've been there.

[@bryancohoon9333]

I tweeted the same thing at Marvel eight or nine years ago. Here’s hoping they bring back Miles Teller as the ultimate Reed Richards.

[@FireJach]

There is so many characters, they could focus on Avengers vs Avengers story. Incursions are already a fight against "nature". The fact the heroes could have different ideas to handle the problem, could lead to a conflict which would interesting enough to follow the story. If MCU doesn't want to bring back Kang, that's okay, they didnt make him intimidating enough

[@CarlosMontesBby]

It would honestly put his direct counterpart on the qualifying round, everyone will know how serious this new character reed richards really is. Thatll be like powerscaling, reed will have to show feats but itll transition well to who marvel really wants to get right, the third contender-the wild card, that muhhfuggin victor von papa.

[@sethbrundels2433]

majors is getting his job back!!!

[@ZSMacLean]

If Marvel actually decides to make Reed into the MCU version of the Maker/Kang... that would be epic. the main problem I see in going this route is that the characters aren't established; when Ultimate Reed killed his FF it was a total unexpected twist... here's we're not invested and we will see it coming.

[@robwright8949]

There is absolutely no way the MCU is gonna cast Pedro Pascal for a villainous role.

[@tonycumberbatch7651]

Ryan, Thank You. Finally someone understands The Multiverse so, absolutely, bring back Miles Teller as Reed Richards, The Maker. Earth - 1610 The Ultimate Universe. Please read, Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand and then, Time Runs Out. The Multiverse Saga on the pages of Marvel Comics is wonderful imaginative storytelling.

[@OptimusTOM]

Love it. What a clever way to intro our good guy REED RICHARDS into a universe, and fan base, that's already fallen in love with TONY STARK, and doesn't necessarily need some NEW GUY showing up to be put on a pedestal that he's, in any way, better / smarter than Tony. But by SHOWING US his complicated nuances vs his evil self... it would endear us to Reed. As a non-comics reader, but a movie watcher, I've honestly never understood the obsession with the Fantastic Four. I trust and believe it. But personally, all I have to go on are the crappy movies. DON'T TELL ME... SHOW ME. Win me over by giving me some hot Reed on Reed action!

[@fj6648]

This is a great story for fans like us. General public will not be able to follow complicated storylines with multiple versions of the same character. Ultimately marvels movies need to make money again. That is through simpler character driven stories that make people feel emotions.

[@TimTimmay]

Nah, horrible way to introduce REED to the MCU..DOOM would be a much better choice

[@agenteagresivo]

Doom needs a better build up. They need to save his arc for the next phase.

[@TimTimmay]

@@agenteagresivo I agree, but not a bad way to introduce his threat level & to let everyone know *He ain’t the usual ONE & DONE Throw Away VILLAIN*

[@frankmaxwell2052]

I’m usually down with your speculations but this one is too complicated for the average movie-goer. This is a comic book elsewhere or What If storyline.

[@krispywontons7135]

Whiplash is one of my favorite movies. I've wanted this idea since I heard about it. The Maker is just such a cool concept.

[@lucho3410]

Idris Alba would've been the perfect Kang replacement but of course he's already Heimdall

[@noentry6101]

This right here 🔥🪄🥹

[@martinphipps2]

I want a reference to a "fast man in red who came up with the designations 616 and 838."

[@Zynnix]

It's an interesting idea, but I still think they have a lot of storyline to work out with Kang. Even if Majors is gone, they did a lot of buildup and it can't just fizzle out and lead to nowhere. They at least have to have the plot make sense. So I think it might be too early to have the Maker as the big bad. He could definitely show up in Secret Wars, but I still think they're gonna be mainly focusing on Kang and then Doom.

[@syedshahar]

I love this idea for Miles Teller Reed Richards to be The Maker.

[@thirdeye42012]

Yes i love the Maker

[@ZOLTAR436]

Honestly I'm really excited for fantastic 4 mainly cause it won't be set in modern MCU and instead in the 60s. There's just so much story potential 🤩🤩

[@MK-hh4dw]

Haven’t seen the video yet, but bringing Teller back to play The Maker would be an S tier move for Marvel

[@mobboss4205]

Lol

[@abrarmulla1196]

I haven’t seen I think some stuff mentioned in this

[@PaulSimon-ee3gg]

Doug needs more screen time. Love Doug

[@Zayah0903]

If they do Reed as the “big bad” they should do this fantastic 4 movie like the first avengers film. Marvel first family wins and saves the day so “The Maker” sees this happening and hits the end credit scene similar to thanos “I’ll do it myself” then boom secret wars plot begins

[@orien2v2]

Guys guys…what if…the true villain is the friend we make along the way?!

[@mosaton]

How about the Reed Richards that replaced his eyes with Infinity Stones, killed Dr Doom, and made his reality into a Pirate Universe, pillaging other realities?

[@user-hs8iy5ob6c]

I wish you guys wrote movie scripts, I love your ideas

[@docmychedelic9153]

Miles Teller should be the The Maker from Miles Morales’ universe and Miles Davis should play whenever he’s in Maker mode.

[@solvseus]

Channels like these: who's the next Marvel big bad? Me: ... Bob Chapek? 🤔

[@0mtrebellcyury993]

Isn’t it alittle to earlier for reed Richards’s maker alias to make a live action appearance?

[@BrokenNoah]

Yeah, they kinda have to re-establish the F4 first before they do the whole Maker thing. If they are even going there.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

​@@BrokenNoah I mean they could just grab the fan4stic actors and use them.

[@BrokenNoah]

@@TiredMoonRabbit It's not about using the previous actors but re-establishing the characters themselves - what the F4 is about and where they fit in the grand scheme of things as far as the MCU is concerned. If Reed or one of the Reeds goes through the Maker path, at least make people care first with his transition to villainy; make it make sense.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@BrokenNoah well yeah that's what the new movie would be for.

[@BrokenNoah]

@@TiredMoonRabbit First movie is a re-introduction, the latter ones (if there would be any) is establishing their story arc and their world further. You can't cram in everything in one movie and expect it to make sense and answer everything. If the F4 is being positioned to play a larger role in the greater MCU, or at least establish their own place, you can't just flop in the Maker right from the get go unless he'll just be another unremarkable villain in a long list of unremarkable villains in the MCU.

[@nuvjoti]

are we sure the movie is set in the 1960s? that Johnny poster they put out is definitely not 1960s NYC. it seems more like a Jetsons style alternate universe, maybe with a 60s aesthetic. Anyways, I bet in Secret Wars, we'll get a The Maker reference when Reed does something selfish to try to bring his "utopia" universe back instead of going with the plan that the other heroes agreed to, which is to create a new combined universe. But whatever he does likely won't be irredeemable, since he'll be one of their headlining heroes for the future.

[@cryptohivemind205]

Look guys I fart in JARS and send them to my boss he thinks it's Jimmy from the Tech department

[@wyattrussell7496]

Henry Cavill as Magneto and Cary Elwes as Professor X

[@ky1ebetts]

Cam Gigandet would make a great Human Torch in my opinion.

[@EdWedgie]

Here we go again

[@brianvernon249]

LEGION!!! Legion will be the ultimate secret boss. Doctor Doom’s motivation is: his hatred for the 4 is due to Reed & Sue’s son Legion.

[@dereklasker5350]

6:04 nice

[@aidanquinn2282]

I like the idea but I think the maker shud betray Kang and wipe out the multiversity somehow to keep only his world. They fight, something goes wrong, the maker tries to save it and we get battle world. I'm just kinda upset we wouldn't see much doom if that happened.

[@simplyrecommended]

You got your big bad and his name is dr doom

[@ssmjoker]

Fr mang like why reed richards 😂

[@ssmjoker]

As soon as we get him in the mcu there plan is yes totally turn him into a villian screw him being a hero right like 😂 oh man hes going way to far with this one

[@christianporter3638]

Agreed. If not Doom, then whom? One of, if not, the best villain in all of comics. However, MCU likes slow burn buildup for major villains

[@sahilthomasbara]

He needs to be a saga villian, not a one or two time villan

[@umanitalks]

It’ll be very rushed if they do that. I see them using maker or doom if they want to cheapen out and waste dr dooms first MCU appearance

[@Gibbypastrami]

John Krasinski should play the Maker version of Reed, John being the Fox Reed would make sense with him being alongside Patrick Stewart in MoM

[@Gibbypastrami]

Hmmm Miles playing him would be cool too… idk

[@nexus7joynexus7joy97]

The evil Reed looks too much like the new Xavier with that big helmet.

[@MichaelWyattMDW]

I want to live in the alternate universe where Ryan works directly with Kevin.

[@tonygoodwinjr9293]

As long as they bring absolutely NO ONE else back from the Fan4stic universe except Miles, that sounds great.

[@Beezle66]

Michael B Jordan got his redemption from fan4stic, let miles teller do that. I'm not for old characters constantly coming back but dude is such a good actor that it would be so dope

[@tacobeartaco7140]

Oh man, Michael B. Jordan in Fan 4 could be what happened if he got adopted and never became Killmonger.

[@jakeland1475]

Holy shit bringing back miles teller as the maker would go absolutely insane

[@maxskyfall7061]

I’m definitely on board for this you guys should definitely get in touch with marvel and make that pitch. I feel like they would love it and would probably be better than them trying to phase out Kang completely

[@rebellonedog]

In the Zombie universe, Reed Richards thought the zombie virus was the next step in evolution and injected the rest of the team with it

[@wheattoast1971]

Yes, The Maker would be cool, but he has the same issue as Doom that he isn’t set up properly. F4 will have likely one occurrence before Secret Wars. If they wanted to do an evil variant of a super genius hero, they should do Superior Iron Man. Tony was built up over an entire saga and is very familiar to the scope of all fans of the MCU. The MCU has a poor familiarity issue with pretty much any new villain they introduce. Kang has pretty much already had the damage done, Doom and Galactus haven’t been set up yet, or they can use an already established character. If they use a villain it probably wouldn’t feel different enough and would feel like cheap damage control, so we should make it a variant of an iconic hero that is a villain in their reality. It would be heartbreaking for both us and the other heroes to see one of the best characters in the MCU as the saga ending villain. Also we’ve seen in 838 that in that universe, Ultron worked as intended so we could have troops and tie Ultron back into the plot like some fans were hoping for. While The Maker’s motives fit better with the end goal, They can really do evil Tony Stark however they want. He could want to stop incursions and be more sympathetic, or he could be pure evil and want to rule over all existence. However they want to do it. I will say though that the MCU hasn’t focused on the Multiverse enough to build up to the 2015 Secret Wars. 838 could’ve been our MCU Ultimate Universe and openly build up beef between the two universes. But they’ve spent all of their budget building up their main universe and halfway through the saga it feels too late now. I think really at this point the best way to do it is use Deadpool 3 and Fantastic 4 to integrate those franchises into the MCU, close up the multiverse after, then do the 1984 Secret Wars, with the Beyonder storyline. Then have the universe soft rebooted so that this universe has always included all of these characters.

[@jesse3086]

They need to have Kang as the villain for 2/3 of the movie then have Dr.Doom show up, slap him around and break his stuff, say nothing, sneer and scoff at the defeated heroes then leave with no further explanation.