FANTASTIC FOUR Alternate Universe Revealed! HUGE Clue You Missed & Silver Surfer Update!

Marvel Studios’ Fantastic Four (2025) is confirmed to be set in an alternate universe! Erik Voss breaks it down.
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It was a huge week for Fantastic Four news: Julia Garner was confirmed as the female Silver Surfer Shalla-Bal! A Human Torch poster gave us a peek at the alternate 1963 New York that this movie will be set in! And Marvel confirmed the FIVE most important comics to read for this movie, shared by Reed Richards’ Future Foundation! Erik Voss breaks down everything you missed from this news!
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[@GhostofKittyKatDawg]

The most important factor that everyone seem to be forgetting. This phase is literally called The Multiverse Saga and The Marvels confirmed that the X-Men exist in a different universe, it seems obvious that Secret Wars is where they all clash

[@drinkmorecocacola]

bottom of the flame "4" has mephisto's face

[@Craigy2818]

but the X-Men we saw aren't the same as the FOX X-Men.

[@Frentraken]

​@Craigy2818 but we weren't expecting the Fox Xmen, so....🤷

[@ZayWicked007]

@@Craigy2818it could be why else would pyro be in the trailer for dp3

[@DEEiBe]

@@Frentraken we aren’t getting our MCU mutants until after Secret Wars

[@AspLode]

I believe the 838 aesthetic from Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness is officially called "Solarpunk" which envisions an optimistic future where human development more closely harmonizes with nature

[@CoLdBl0oD93]

Where did you find that? I've been looking everywhere for the names of those other universes

[@casualfanatic4217]

How many punk genres are there? Can someone give me a list

[@xRoxas666x]

That's not how "__punk" works.

[@freeamericanthinker558]

​@@casualfanatic4217 solarpunk Cyberpunk Steampunk Atompunk Dieselpunk Raypunk

[@kingdot2616]

Yeah you’re correct solarpunk definitely fits with 838s aesthetic.

[@JPVersus_]

I'm calling it now, it'll be like Rick and Morty's Love Potion #9, but it's an incursion that they can't control and they have to come to 616 because there's no FF there.

[@illaillakkiyan7872]

i have been saying this for months.😭you're absolutely right

[@mattduncil]

On the first poster you can see the date from the magazine and the Valentine’s Day banner as being February 14, 1963: Syncom 1 becomes the first geosynchronous satellite, but is damaged beyond repair. The FF are known for a space mission that goes wrong.

[@TrapTech]

You sir are genius for this catch.

[@TitularHeroine]

.....awesome

[@dantepierre1948]

their isn’t a single date on that poster, u can’t even make out a single thing on the magazine, literally what are you talking about😂

[@mattduncil]

@@dantepierre1948 the cover of the magazine shows Johnson and was based on a real cover from 1963. Gets us the year. The Valentines banner is February 14, gets us February 14, 1963.

[@KingOfMadCows]

Maybe F4 is set in the universe before the current one. Like how Galactus is a survivor from a previous universe.

[@TheTanglyHen1026]

That would be sick af

[@TitularHeroine]

That's a frikkin cool idea

[@pinaka5461]

maybe galactus eat this world

[@iRegr3t]

Doesn't make sense. Needs to connect to secret wars. Meaning universes existing f simultaneously. You're speaking time travel.

[@TheTanglyHen1026]

@@iRegr3t they could get pulled out into a pocket dimension or be survivors or something

[@SamTalksNerdy]

I wasn’t sure originally. But now I like this idea! We can get a F4 movie that doesn’t jack with the MCU timeline and this could have an ending that hits as has hard as the end of Infinity War. I mean… imagine Galactus winning!

[@BlakHeart666]

Huh

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

I doubt itll be as good as infinity war

[@pinaka5461]

Yes, that's the only way we can see him eating human filled Earth, because we all know in main MCU Earth that's not gonna happen.

[@siphosethumbaba7559]

@@wh1tew0lfalpha it won't be as good as infinity war, it will be greater than infinity war will ever be.

[@jamesharrison1279]

I'm a sixties kid. I grew up on these comics ,especially when it came to the fantastic four drawn by Jack Kirby. I hope this movie captures and honor the legacy these legendary creators.

[@thepubknight6144]

Love how they captured Johnny's smarky smile in his photo from the comics as well

[@S-tan-ley]

60s kid? It says 1279, you're way older.

[@orien2v2]

Whoa kudos to you still into these stuff and joining in on the ride!

[@Deeznardz]

Wow awesome you’re still alive! How’s the prostate?

[@drewfologist2755]

"I hope this movie captures and honor the legacy these legendary creators." Doubtful.

[@rpelletier2771]

Mephisto confirmed!!

[@notmephisto1375]

Notttt

[@vishnubose6515]

Yes, in ironhart series

[@SeoulMan]

NOT THE BEES! AAAAAAGGGGHHH!!!

[@topnetworkersgroup]

😮 lakeith as silver surfer would be dope af. Perfect voice

[@Muteyoshi260]

Fr, a female silver surfer would be badass. Silver surfer seamed so elegant in the second f4 movie so it makes sense.

[@picantepatricio]

Rewatch begins on 4/20… hell yeah 😮‍💨

[@redschafer7804]

one should be baked to make sense of the 2016 FF movie

[@christopheroneill77]

So happy they are taking a swing ! 🎉❤

[@TheNetherNoose]

In the MCU of the 1960s, a group of four scientists embark on a trip into space and never return... Meanwhile, in an alternate reality, the same thing happens, but this group becomes the fantastic four and celebrities of their world. Their world/reality is destroyed, and they find their home in the main MCU. With the backstop that they were the same group of scientists who returned from a deep space voyage.

[@clemoski9007]

Love this

[@CrossOutBryce]

It would be kinda crazy if like at the end of the second FF movie someday, the original 4 scientists return. The FF would be so shook 👀

[@toonasag]

That would be epic

[@JADWV]

ngl that would be cool…

[@Skybeach463]

Ngl that would be better

[@IsiahBradley]

THANKS for this!!!!

[@mpgchgo]

GAHHH!! Jack Kirby was great, and I love him, but that Human Torch design was created DECADES earlier for the Original Human Torch by CARL BURGOS!!!

[@RedNinja115]

Idk, that MoM universe they go through looks more like a reference to mirrors edge than foreshadowing to this FF universe

[@andrewshandle]

Whatever portal sends the FF through to the main earth could be based off Doom's design but the FF go to the modern timeline and Doom goes to the past (even if it's just a few years) to take over Latveria. They can't do another Doom that isn't the leader of Latveria.

[@user-ch9gm3mj1j]

Javier bardum would be a great casting for galactus

[@Hdub8526]

Idk if he said it in this but, according to the googles Antonio Banderas is listed as Galactus.

[@muhammadhabibieamiro3639]

Another amazing video

[@peterdarker1]

Chef's kiss to this installment

[@Deltafoo]

Is Galactus confirmed? It’s about time we see him.

[@clipsdelosmajes]

Yeah, it is. Right now the role is on the actor who did Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men. Nothing set on stone yet tho, so it could change.

[@chrisszostek6700]

Just gonna be a celestial look alike that just looks like galactus

[@YOUNGFARTBUBBLES]

​@@chrisszostek6700 No

[@Can_non69]

It's been smoke and mirrors so far but, without the mirrors.

[@mattcliburn]

Javier Bardem is in talks for Galactus

[@baysidejr]

Just started the video. But i swear you better say Mephisto at least once! That poster is amazing. I love the color scheme.

[@konkeydong9681]

Lol you called it 8:59

[@drinkmorecocacola]

the bottom of the flame 4 on the art has mephistos face

[@johnsantos507]

💀🔥⛓️

[@itstianooong]

i love when you include different creators art

[@jeffreyfloyd5709]

i would LOVE to see Lakeith as the silver surfer!!!!

[@thepubknight6144]

Hes been a fan choice for years too His role in "Get out" is very similar to Norrin Radd's time as Galactus' herald

[@haroldhardebeck8739]

Maybe just maybe when all the dust has settled the Avengers, FF and X-Men will be in universe 999-99-99 or whatever the 9 universe that is

[@EthanMiguelScott]

The MCU, you mean? 199999.

[@alexandereller1169]

Is it me or am I seeing faces in Johnny Storm's flames? I believe I saw at least 2-3 faces.

[@6lackcomedy]

Present!!!! Here!!!!

[@choppydell]

Still think that ship we saw in Loki season 1 finale is The FF escaping their universe's destruction

[@joshuacervantes6288]

ERICSSS BACKKKKKKK

[@kevinm594]

No mention of the face in the flames?

[@edgarasbobrovas883]

00:01 Marvel's Fantastic 4 set in alternate 1960s universe with major implications for the MCU 01:54 Hidden QR code leads to Future Foundation page. 03:35 Exploring the alternate 1960s setting of the Fantastic 4 movie. 05:21 Possible alternate universe revealed in Fantastic Four poster 07:08 Speculation about Silver Surfer casting in alternate universes 08:55 Marvel setting up alternate universe with Silver Surfer and Galactus. 10:47 Fantastic Four to be introduced in a completely different reality 12:31 The Fantastic Four to be introduced as celebrity superheroes in an alternate reality 1963 14:19 Marvel Studios exploring alternate reality for Fantastic Four

[@lynrdm23]

Shala-bahl was the surfer for like 3 issues, waaaay back, out of all the surfer issues they use the most minor/irrelevant stuff which seems kinda cool but must be done right.

[@TheAntManYo]

I’m ready for everything 🙏🏼

[@samanthamaclean1430]

Definitely this confirmation about the movie makes me so excited about it what I thought the story was going to be about when I saw the 60s picture

[@shockdiesel3470]

Idea, What if It was ahollow That put Ben Grimm back on read Richard's radar After college took them both in two completely different directions in life.

[@IZZY_EDIBLE]

Can't wait for the FF!

[@bodiedaly7095]

Have you noticed at the bottom of the flame 4 by the RM signature there is a face present who's is it ??

[@Zdawgg627]

I can’t wait for this movie…

[@havokan45]

Everyone is hating on the 1994 Fantastic Four movie and yes it bad CGI or lack of it and that movie was the only one to give Dr Doom justice and it had Doombots too .

[@RyanHaney55]

I like that retro-futuristic style. They might tell Mr. Meinerding to put less Easter Egg into his Mother's Day and Father's Day cards. 😂

[@ThatGuyNick_YT]

Live action Watcher would be cool

[@barrymorgan5272]

Am I the only one who saw a face in the flame? In the lower right hand corner above the RM initials

[@user-zc5bs9zq3w]

I’m really excited about this movie,I like the futuristic 1960s setting we might get and I like the cast so far.

[@R3dm3talHdZ]

This video got me HYPED for F4!! 😍🤩

[@barbwyer5322]

chin hair getting grey. daddy mode entered

[@elijahulrich2023]

I know a lot of people probably aren't going to agree with it, but I'm actually okay with the fantastic four being introduced, only to get thrust into Secret Wars. I mean, wasn't it practically the same way in phase 1 when they introduced the Avengers?

[@Standard_Pangolin]

It's basically what happened with Captain America, his first film was right before The Avengers

[@franciscogonzaga4539]

We'll definitely get something on the 4th of July. It's just perfect

[@Khail707]

Have a feeling we’re gettin a Stark family member in this

[@gavinthegoliath553]

Looks if stark and Richards designed a perfect t world

[@funkysam1345]

Yup. In fact Howard stark and Hank pym

[@Khail707]

@@funkysam1345 I’d say Howard. It kinda looks like the demo he built of the arc reactor he showed Tony in the video he left for him.

[@thepopo592]

I feel like reed is the stark stand-in tbh

[@James-zn2bc]

Can't wait to see this movie.

[@fallwitch]

I can't wait for the FF film. I have loved all their media from the 60s comic, cartoons to the 2000 films. Cep for the 2015 film. Lord that was awful. Thanks for the post!

[@DonnieGonzalez-lg3md]

Good video

[@limbolul]

lakeith is 100% gonna be another variant of silver surfer. and I'm so excited, they're both amazing actors

[@pradyumnamorarjee6600]

The lines on the human torch are from his sweater kind costume which is also visible on mr.Fantastic it also might be a nod as u said but it's mostly this

[@ronmarkus2879]

I'm not sure its a thing and maybe im imagine it but isnt there a face directly above the "RM" in the flame? it very much could be a coincidence but it really looks like a face

[@lovelifeeeeok]

I knew you were going to do break down on fantastic 4 I called it last video

[@michaelpelaez7468]

No thoughts or theories I just enjoy your videos. 😀

[@matthewwelsh4005]

R u gonna do a break down of tales of the empire??

[@drinkmorecocacola]

Mephisto's face on the bottom of the flame "4"

[@ojastudio]

Do we see DOMM's Face lines draw on the flames close to the RM signature? I bet !

[@isaacbeeks4637]

And I feel like Loki is just directing on where all this goes and all he can do is sit and watch his work unfold.

[@kevinprather9478]

That Human Torch #2 cover in the video, is actually drawn by Larry Lieber (Pencils) and John Romita Sr. (inks). Kirby did the story pencils inside.

[@morganism2857]

1 minute ago is crazy

[@DakotaActually]

the flash on the building spire can be looked at like the ff logo/emblem

[@keonstraughn5787]

Yes love it

[@JDReynolds2005]

I've a feeling that their alt earth was one where the internet didn't ruin society and its race to space. Lol

[@VALUST17]

Word.

[@MichaelSmith-dk1lc]

the internet didn't ruin the race to space. our lack of exploring did

[@timothyzandi75]

Does anyone else see the face at the bottom of the 4?

[@nunosousa251]

Yes! Mephisto maybe?

[@aegisblze]

Omfg LaKeith Stanfield Silver Surfer is PEAK CASTING

[@XACTIC_Valour]

Oh, don't worry... I ALWAYS have my calendar marked for 4/20

[@shawnpinkney4455]

'Best part of Ozark' is a stretch. One of the top characters for sure tho.

[@lordofninjas1]

It definitely does seem like it's a hint to them being in an Alternate Universe from the Sacred Timeline and then get them smashed together post-Secret Wars. It'll be interesting to see how this all works out, as I'm someone who feels they should wait to use Galactus until later, but who knows. I also agree that it seems like Lakeith Stanfield probably will be the Norrin Radd Silver Surfer at some point in the future. It'll be interesting to see if he'll be in this movie or if they'll wait until Secret Wars or something to use him. From rumors I've seen going around, supposedly Sue is pregnant with Franklin in this movie, it'll be interesting to see what they do with that if it turns out to be true. You mention having more holiday themed posters for the Fantastic Four members, like Mothers Day and Fathers Day for Sue and Reed, it would make sense if they gave Ben a poster for a Jewish holiday like Passover or Hanukkah. Also, if the Fantastic Four are in an Alternate Universe, I wonder if there'll be a credits scene of them showing up in an older part of the Sacred Timeline and being the ones buying Avengers Tower (we still don't know who bought it, though we've been told we'll find out) and turning it into the Baxter Building, or if it'll end up being Fisk and we find out in Born Again or whatever.

[@juanharris5297]

The beacon sent in Shang Chi, is for Galacticus. The tech is unknown be all the Avengers smartest.

[@SyntheOfficial]

Oh my this would be awesome

[@Socksyhyenaboii]

I’m very excited for FF

[@waynesvlogs3640]

One of my theories while watching was. No one talked about them cause they tried traveling the multiverse to prove it was real. Went off got powers through the travel and they couldn’t go home.

[@Demarko9891]

9:01 “Mephisto” Me: oh brother, here we go again 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Dragownage]

Most people thinks Dr. Strange’s joke doesn’t count…because it doesn’t. He was making a Fab Four joke.

[@ilongsakabaw]

Are they jusy gonna be the F4 of the 616 eventually? Or does 616 will going to have them but in the future settings?

[@GrimlockGuy34]

Secret wars is gunna be like the Arrowverse’s Crisis, where it ends with everyone on one earth/universe

[@johnduval760]

You can see the Theme Building at LAX in the skyline

[@thechugdude]

I just hope this doesn't mean we will never see Norrin Radd Silver Surfer

[@ThatGuyNick_YT]

Bet he’ll be the 616 silver surfer

[@thechugdude]

@@ThatGuyNick_YT That would be awesome 😎

[@bbartky]

@@ThatGuyNick_YTThat’s my assumption too. I think LaKeith Stanfield will be him in a future Marvel movie.

[@SWOTHDRA]

We wont ,we have waited patiently for 20 years and disney pulls this on us

[@undisclosed_branding9714]

Jetsons. I farking knew it 😂

[@mattsmith5862]

They could easily use or reference the fact that sentry had to be erase to stop the void enter the thunderbolts movie and the f4 come with using this retcon

[@sweeeenay]

shout out to the Marvel Snap Galactus art

[@user-ch9gm3mj1j]

Me too

[@mattyboyb523]

Not sure there was ever going to be another way. Saying they were just never mentioned would’ve dug the MCU even deeper into the negativity that’s out there. This makes the most sense. Fits right in with the Multiverse saga too. I love it !!!

[@Skybeach463]

How would it feed negativity more? Its mostly pickiness

[@dychrisshandonsmith1242]

Keep it up on your work and this video and channel I love this video and channel Thanks you for your video and channel

[@tobiloba24]

You can see Mephisto’s eye at the bottom of the 4 in the flames 😮

[@MrLexanderluther1986]

Fourth of July we'll probably get the first teaser

[@lordofninjas1]

They haven't even started filming yet, and filming isn't expected to start until around August, so there's no way we can get a teaser trailer for it in the beginning of July.

[@MrLexanderluther1986]

@@lordofninjas1 cool

[@larryankenmanjr1719]

Could The Fantastic Four be Before X Men Day of the Future Past, if FF is Set in 1968, that mean DOFP is set in 1973

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I do think we are barrelling towards a universe reboot. The MCU started as "what if superheroes were real", like most superhero universes. But i think they'll take the opportunity to create a universe that's as wacky as the comics and always has been.

[@Rkatondonegal]

I love how close we are getting to The best version of the Fantastic 4! 😊

[@SWOTHDRA]

The best.....😂

[@Rkatondonegal]

@@SWOTHDRA it’s certainly gonna be better than what we’ve got in the past!

[@logandexter9163]

That “Future of Tomorrow” vibe would hit different fr

[@kennethrmca]

God bless you all for rewatching the Fox Fantastic Four movies. May you be rewarded for your strength and bravery. I'd rather go to Fear Factor for lunch. 😂

[@jamesgeeks8569]

i still hold out hope that when Doom is introduced, its his own film, anti hero style, and he is the reveal for galactus in 616

[@gmoney4805]

Don’t know if he said this bc I’m saying it early in the video but in multiverse of madness strange actually gave the first clue about the fantastic four when he said they charted in the 60s

[@YaBoyGunna27]

So excited for thus marvel run. Prayge

[@josephpleimann6600]

11:55 I thought he just meant that they changed the real life Delancy Street to Yancy in the comics

[@lordofninjas1]

Yeah, that's how I took it as well. Sometimes they can look a little too deep into things here.

[@SaraSmiles1213]

it'd be so if they did like a tie in with tomorrowland when the movies comes out

[@gball6755]

what’s even the point of this movie if they’re set in a different universe and going to collide in secret wars and then be done?

[@SirsasthNigam.]

6:20 thats called Mirror world or Pipe World

[@kaychallis6411]

they can do something smart with this connect to the design of the TVA

[@biancalovesdisney]

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