Is Ron Weasley Completely and Utterly Pointless?

It's more up for debate than you may think... But today Ben dissects Ron as a character and tries to determine whether or not he is even remotely helpful to the team.
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[@BLZ-rb7ij]

Movies: Yes completely pointless Books: If you take Ron out Harry would die book one

[@HK_lesgo]

Books are better than movies!!!!

[@questionsxxquestionsxx776]

That's it

[@crooszy6279]

Sydney Chuang and Neville

[@ech0222]

Ethan Vance which one???

[@willumwenthin3049]

@Ethan Vance was it even a Harry Potter movie?

[@allis_o2628]

Things movies missed out from books: that first year Ron at 11 years old must've written a letter to his mum, asking her to make Harry a sweater and some extra presents when he realized that Dursleys wouldn't care enough to. Think about that, they're 11 years old, only known each other for a few months, Mrs Weasley just met him for a moment on the train station, but those presents are without doubt the first step to Harry becoming part of the Weasley family. Ron isn't just Harry's best friend, be becomes the brother Harry never had before.

[@friendusesthisaccountnocom9928]

Allis_O in the chapter “19 years later” they do actually become brothers in law

[@lahlybird895]

true unless you believe my theory that Harry and Ron may have possibly been just possibly more than friends except obviously this has been completely still this has been shut down but still I support it

[@smallbean9412]

Maybe it was off screen

[@killer92173]

Not to mention in time the rest of the Weasley family becomes the family that Harry never had. Except for Percy for Books 5 and 6.

[@johnyshadow]

@@killer92173 Who´s that again? :D

[@isabella-bh2zp]

Let’s not forget how the movies gave all of Ron’s cool lines that shows his true character to Hermione and how the movies made Ron comic relief instead of making him the great character that he is.

[@tfahad2051]

Because Hermione is a girl and the world needed to see a smart girl in a franchise. The world would've screamed if they saw a girl with not many helpful moments. She's a smart girl and a quick thinker, but it doesn't do justice to Ron if his lines are given to her.

[@raunakchowdhury3839]

you said movies' twice

[@MidoriNatsume]

@@tfahad2051 LoL no. The first movies director was an outspoken Hermione Fanboy, and after he left the project the other directors had to follow the standard of Hermione being the most important character.

[@tfahad2051]

@@MidoriNatsume Lol, Hermione being the most important character? Keep thinking that.

[@critter_core]

@@tfahad2051 That's how they made it lol

[@loonyluna140]

Harry Potter: The boy who lived Hermoine Granger: The smartest in her year Ronald Weasly: Our Spirit animal

[@jilliandarden5633]

Rika Goede I like this better Harry: the boy who lived Hermione: the brightest witch of her age. Ron: our king

[@mariadefex3391]

Yassssss

[@marianat1393]

Lol

[@jilliandarden5633]

Verstamech it was lol and thanks

[@prishjosh9303]

The boy we all would love to have as a best friend

[@feloneewebster3420]

Ron brought Harry the family Harry never had.

[@SnowyWolborg]

This is the perfect answer. Harry's life without the Weasley family would have been a whole lot more miserable. The guys were the brothers that he never had. Molly was just as good of a mother as anybody could have ever asked for. The fact that she gave Harry that pocket watch which was originally her brother's is very telling that she considers him to be one of her sons.

[@getorganizednotpianoized239]

Felonee Webster My sentiments exactly!

[@insertusername4079]

He skipped all of his holidays at a boarding school just ‘cause his friends never had a home

[@bigltomeakame]

True.

[@wreckthissong]

@@SnowyWolborg Love that Harry married hes sister! Keep marrige in the family!

[@sk70091]

I don't think Ron stopped talking to Hermione because her cat wanted to kill his rat. He was angry because Hermione never took him seriously when he said Crookshanks was after Scabbers. She kept bringing her cat close to Scabbers when Ron very clearly asked her not to, and even when it looked very much like the cat had killed the rat, she still acted like Ron was being unreasonable and never took responsibility for her cat. That made even me frustrated with Hermione.

[@connor4435]

Same

[@LizLuvsCupcakes]

Oh my god, RIGHT?! I mean, that’s basically the moment Hermione lost her touch for me.

[@sweatpantsstrawberries8981]

Same

[@silvartheherdgeheg2477]

Yeah that's how the books did it. Sadly the movie doesn't elaborate on that one. The movies was a big dissapointment if we're talking about Ron.

[@lahlybird895]

@@LizLuvsCupcakes seriously that's the moment I would have thought you'd lose touch with her back when she fell in love with Lockhart

[@peanut_butter_wizard1213]

In the movies: Ron is pretty useless after the first movie. In the books: Ron is awesome

[@RHJunior]

Hermione fanfics should not count as canon.

[@Nova-luna]

Ron is awesome and helps Harry and Hermione a lot

[@johnrollins2631]

In the movies after Sorcerers Stone the only thing Ron does is destroy a Horcrux in Deathly Hallows part 1 and gets Hermione and himself into the Chamber of Secrets in Deathly Hallows part 2

[@connor4435]

Ron doesn’t stop talking to Hermionie because of Crookshanks, it’s because Hermionie kept defending the cat and wouldn’t take any responsibility even though as far as they know Scabbers died and she ignored Ron’s feeling when he was clearly upset

[@serenity794]

I was searching for this!

[@marianat1393]

Exactly

[@justanotherfangirlontheint4084]

Edit 2: It's funny too look back on these now that i'm more into other book series that I like more I also deleted my original comment as the person I was replying to deleted there's I also realize it looked like I was attacking them which was never my intention.

[@justanotherfangirlontheint4084]

Sangwoo Park I'm sorry, sorry your limited mind only thinks girls are good for one thing. Sorry that you feel the need to undermine the other gender in order to feel adequate.

[@user-gz5hd1zd5m]

@@justanotherfangirlontheint4084 Shut up and make me a sandwich

[@adimikimkoydu]

Although he is the comic relief in the films, his character is better in the books. Weasley is our king :D

[@suzyq1325]

Musa Umut Akdeniz Dogan YES!

[@madtortuga]

Musa Umut Akdeniz Dogan Yess!!!

[@analampis3358]

Musa Umut Akdeniz Dogan totally agree!

[@PhilBagels]

Yeah, they really dumbed him down in the movies. He's much smarter and more skilled in the books. That makes him the same as... Gimli in LotR.

[@HolyTurtleOfDoom]

In the books he's legit just a normal kid. Average skills, but amazing at chess. In the movies he's a hopeless blubbering mess.

[@UltimateKyuubiFox]

The movies cut out all of Ron’s useful attributes and gave them to Hermione. I mean, the first book has him figure out and instruct Hermione how to get out of Devil’s Snare, reminding her she has magic and can burn it (which she forgets in a panic, as a muggleborn probably would). The movies reversed that scene entirely. The mechanics of how to get out of it, the characterization, everything-a 180 spin. “You’re a witch, aren’t you?!” ~Book!Ron reminding Hermione of her own agency in a terrifying situation “Good thing we didn’t panic.” ~Movie!Ron after panicking and needing to be saved by Hermione because he couldn’t keep quiet

[@jessicastrike5640]

UltimateKyuubiFox agreed! And along the same lines from PoA it's Ron, standing on a broken leg, that tells Sirius if he wants to kill Harry he'll have to kill them too

[@TheBebuchis]

UltimateKyuubiFox such a stupid descion, why would J.K. Rowling help butcher her own character?

[@EditsByLyra]

Exactly! It happens all the time in the movies.

[@teddydreams362]

UltimateKyuubiFox hey they took out Harry’s smart ass comments and the fact that he figured shit out on his own sometimes. Also the Weasley twins were hilarious during the books I wish that was in the movies too.

[@kallimaynard2358]

This is largely feminism at play and an early version of debilitating men. People forget that in the books the three balance each other because they all have flaws. They intentionally made Hermione very Mary Sue in the movies because they needed a "strong female lead!". which is pretty stupid in a movie about a BOY wizard and his support role friends--one of which happens to be a girl. It's gross and it's why I'm not a big fan of the movies. Rowling is a huge supporter of it and it's very disappointing given her original ideas.

[@salkjdfhalsdgfkauhg]

I don't feel Ron is pointless, he was the first choice Harry ever made. Make friends with someone who reminds Harry of Dudley, or make friends with someone who he sees himself in?

[@billilililieee]

I can just imagine Ron reading the title and his heart breaking even more than it already has because his biggest trouble is that he actually feels utterly pointless next to those around him u.u

[@luisa6142]

😭😭😭

[@dracomalfoy4026]

Oh dont worry I sent it to him

[@nameslesss]

Draco Malfoy go away Draco mal-ferrret

[@klaudiagrob]

Maybe he feels utterly pointless but Harry hated his fame. When he realized that he's famous because he had defeated Voldemort and lost his parents made him heart broken. It's unwanted fame really. Ron forgot about it more than once.

[@Xbugs.]

@@dracomalfoy4026 And I was gonna name a ferret after you ;-;

[@TalkingToLeedskalnin]

Ron Weasley and the whole Weasly bunch became family to a boy who was an abused orphan and gave him the support and confidence to achieve his ultimate destiny. Not everyone is a a flashy, amazingly charismatic person in this world. Some people are quietly awesome, sincere and true. That's Ron. He may be a second fiddle, but the song wouldnt be the same without him.

[@moamoa860]

I think it’s really important to point out the family aspect that Ron brought to the table. He was the only one that would have been able to provide a normal family that could love Harry for being Harry and not only The Boy Who Lived.

[@lahlybird895]

Ron did good things that have good actions but I still can't stand his personality or half the things he says to certain characters

[@cortd5273]

Grounded? Harry lives in a cupboard under the stairs for Gods sake. He is a house elf.

[@tova1412]

@Lama Alharbi he was neglected though, which is a form of abuse; he had to live in a cupboard, was treated very differently from Dudley (who treated him as his personal punching bag and the parents didn't exactly put effort into stopping it), insulted all the time, abandoned at a busy station at 11... i mean, the only reason they didn't kick him out was because dumbledore practically forced them to let him stay until he became of age, and then he was promptly abandoned...

[@lahlybird895]

@@cortd5273 actually they didn't really make him do the chores so not really

[@TheGodOfInsanty]

Book ron is pretty dang important, in every book. Movie ron is only important in years 1, 2, and 7.

[@40GamesAG]

Wait didn’t he warn him about the first task in 4?

[@leobastian_]

@@40GamesAG ? Hagrid did that, in both book and movie.

[@leobastian_]

@@naddarr1 oh, didnt remember that. I Just assumed hagrids Dragon-Love and His Position would make it so he'd realise there are dragons in the forest

[@francis7064]

It’s “pretty obvious” that Steve Kloves hated Ron and shipped harry and hermione

[@marianat1393]

Yeah....

[@masterknife8423]

He wasn't useless in the books. I mean he gave Harry a loving family and he more or less introduced Harry to the wizarding world. But yeah in the films he was very much comic relief

[@TwoToedSloth]

Let's not forget that Tonks credits Ron with saving her life in the Battle of Seven Potters.

[@SabaKhan-zp5of]

exactly

[@huwsie1]

I think in addition to being the lynchpin of the trio, I personally think that he represents a 'street smart' while Hermione represents 'book smart'-ness. For instance, with the devil's snare in the books, Hermione says that it hates light and wishes she had some matches with Ron having to remind her that she's a witch and can literally produce light from her wand. See also the slug incident where Hermione doesn't know what a mudblood is and when Ron stands on his broken leg to protect Harry from Sirius (an action they give to Hermione in the movies). He does SO MUCH MORE in the books and generally in the movies if he does something, they move the action to Hermione.

[@Gabrielbored]

.

[@huwsie1]

Gabriel bored I quote: “Devil’s Snare, Devil’s Snare ... What did Professor Sprout say? It likes the dark and the damp-“ “So light a fire!” Harry choked. “Yes - of course - but there’s no wood!” Hermione cried, wringing her hands. “HAVE YOU GONE MAD?” Ron bellowed. “ARE YOU A WITCH OR NOT?”

[@Gabrielbored]

Where did you find that information from

[@huwsie1]

@@Gabrielbored Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, page 222 in the illustrated edition or page 298 from the 20th Anniversary edition.

[@Gabrielbored]

Well when I read the original it said Harry

[@ec6933]

Note to self. If you don't have a best friend like Ron, it's because you're Ron.

[@elephantjesus7427]

But what if your no ones Ron

[@lemonlandaj2408]

I am Ron

[@patriluu8794]

Eighty cc yeah I am

[@Nico-pu3te]

I has a Ron friend named Alexa, she's great :)

[@Nico-pu3te]

I personally am more of a Luna

[@katarinarose3379]

Harry and Hermione would have never stopped Voldemort or even survived in the Philosopher's Stone in the magical chess game without Ron

[@aleksamilosevic8792]

@@ravindunethsara1199 Because they wouldnt.Ron was hard smashing both harry and hermoine in chess and they barely won when he try harded.

[@firewind596whocares8]

So true

[@prishjosh9303]

Katarina Rose no, that’s complete nonsense

[@gingerbread9691]

Katarina Rose Also Ron told Hermione what to do during the devils snare in the first book

[@skipgonzalez3734]

Dumbledore put the chess game im there to test ron

[@lilyanakoleva5835]

If you ask me, Ron is the best character in the books and one of the best fictional characters ever written. It’s a shame what the movies did to him.

[@lorineforman3748]

Yeah

[@Savannah_Simpson]

I mean he’s a good character, but that’s over selling it a bit. I personally always found him a tad obnoxious sometimes, but then I always identified more with Hermione and never understood at all how she could marry him.

[@dibal9277]

@@Savannah_Simpson Hermione was no picnic and had a very difficult personality - at least in the first few books. Harry couldn't stand Hermione at times, and she had many flaws. Contrary to Emma Watson's portrayal, she was not perfect.

[@meru.telman]

To me the sweetest thing Ron did was that during the first year he told his Mom that Harry probably would not be receiving many or any gifts for Christmas and asks to sent him some as well. And also him coming to the rescue after Harry not responding to his letters in COS. This is when we see that Ron is Harry's support system, a kind and true friend, who despite his occasional jealousy cares deeply for his friends and their well-being. He is a very realistic character and it's a shame they removed that from the movies.

[@lahlybird895]

would I always find interesting books always stressed out Harry had more money than Rhonda's and yet the books also always stressed that Ron's pile of presents at Christmas time is always bigger than Harry's which probably comes from the fact that he has a larger family but still I never get why they always pointed out I'm into something Harry might notice once or twice but it's comes up literally every time Christmas comes up at Hogwarts anyway not during the deathly hallows because that Christmas is well weird

[@nikunjdixit1175]

The entire section in DH when Ron leaves till when Ron returns just shows elementally why Ron is needed. He keeps Harry sane and make Hermione happy. Harry is always happier when Ron is around him because they are so in tune with each other. And Ron is the only one who is able to make Hermione laugh. Harry is never able to do that. Both of them need Ron to function at their best, just as Ron needs them both. Also, needless to say there are numerous occurrences where Ron has contributed crucially, either in terms of saving Harry or Hermione's life or figuring out something that needed to be resolved.

[@kathrynsummers1735]

Hear! Hear!

[@BHuang92]

Even more interesting is the fact that Dumbledore *knew* exactly that Harry needs his friends. Which is more of the reason why he entrust Ron his best invention, the Deluminator, to him so he can find his way back.

[@havewissmart9602]

But that's not right. If a good friend leaves, you will feel sad. If Hermione left, Ron and Harry would not have been very happy and sane either. Because they would have missed her a lot

[@syedrameen4529]

not really because when ron left they werent as happy before but they still were fine on their own and ron makes hermionie laugh with his stupidity

[@Leafeon-gd5en]

@@syedrameen4529 k

[@eugenekrabs70]

Ron isn’t completely useless •Ron destroyed the locket •Ron stopped the troll in the first movie/book •Ron gave Harry the idea to give Norbert to his brother •Ron found Nicholas Flamel on the chocolate frog card •Ron got them into the chamber of secrets in the deathly hallows •Ron picked Harry up in the flying car •Ron tells Harry almost everything about the wizarding world on the train

[@gingernoodle7849]

Eugene Krabs no, Harry gave Ron the idea to give Norbert to Charlie. It happened as H: Charlie. R: You're losing it, too. I'm Ron, remember? H: No, your brother - Charlie. We could give Norbert to him!

[@abdirahmanidris290]

Allows the Weasely family connection as well

[@ptitepeluche05]

Harry found NF on the chocolate frog card, not Ron. But you forgot Ron beat MCGonagall chess board.

[@skele0314]

WEASLEY IS OUR KING! HE CATCHES EVERYTHING! AND THAT IS WHY WE ALL SING, WEASLEY IS OUR KING!!! Edit: I spelled Weasley wrong...

[@lightningmcqueenstan]

no you didn't, it is spelled w-e-a-s-l-e-y, you spelled it right

[@potatoesareamazing8622]

Ella Odge think they edited it =)

[@lightningmcqueenstan]

@@potatoesareamazing8622 ah, yes, that makes more sense

[@d.j.cassidy1642]

Ron isn't King because Jesus is King

[@baboi2186]

@@d.j.cassidy1642 understandable have a nice day

[@DovahRS]

Weasley is our King, Weasley is our King, He didn't let the Quaffle in Weasley is our King. Weasley can save anything, He never leaves a single ring, That's why Gryffindors all sing: Weasley is our King.

[@chrissonofpear3657]

I really missed hearing that song...

[@altermetax]

They didn't put it in the movies, I want to kill them

[@nabilamardyfitria6381]

I would do anything to hear the casts singing this together to ron in the movie both this version and the insulting one because it would make this one sounds much more powerful and precious

[@Mandy-mf8ks]

And one slytherin! It’s me XD

[@evan10307]

thankyou 4 taking time to type this out

[@triquetka]

When I gave the books to my then new boyfriend to read (yes, the conversation started "What do you mean you haven't read Harry Potter?!"), he immediately fell in love with Ron. He watched the movies before the books and with every passed page he was telling me how Ron is awesome, how they did him completely wrong in the movies and how he seems to save the day all the times. Ron has witty answers to everything, he is kind, he is true fried to Harry, he most of the time doesn't mind staying in his shadow and silently supports him. In Goblet of Fire it eventually grows on him, but he explains wizarding world to Harry (no, not Hermione - ponting at you, movies!) since the beginning and as much as Harry wouldn't complete the horcruxes task without Hermione and her brains, he equally wouldn't be able to complete it without Ron, who gives him everything that Hermione doesn't.

[@voldemort008]

triquetka The movies were extremely biased against Ron. They make him out to be a bumbling oaf/comic relief character, when in actuality he was fairly intelligent in his own right. It’s through him that we learn about the statute of secrecy, the ban on dragon breeding, and a slew of other random tidbit’s that neither Harry or Hermione even know.

[@ismirdochegal4804]

So true.

[@esqimo6647]

It’s so sad how they portrayed Ron in the first movie, because if he was cool in that movie, he would be set up to be as cool as he was in the books. I think the scene in the philosophers stone movie that made him seem more helpless that in the books was the devils snare scene, where hermione has to save him from it. Hermione in the movies just took all of Rons good attributes and gave him the silly comical character, who didn’t really work as one because the twins are already amazing and hilarious.

[@hussainvirk8598]

IKR he was one of my favourite characters in the books

[@turkishundelightful5382]

And he told the spiders he didn't wanna tap dance

[@aulvinduergard9952]

Ron didn't tell Harry about Slytherin house, *HAGRID* told him at Diagon Alley.

[@ravindunethsara1199]

And Hagrid never told Harry how to get to 9 three quarters. Molly practically yelled about 9 three quarters when they are in kings cross. Then, the bloody friendships began

[@ravindunethsara1199]

No Ron didn’t. But he lured Harry into Gryffindor

[@justsomepersononyoutube9271]

That was in the books

[@yayyay7888]

@@ravindunethsara1199 lured ????

[@awaywiththefaeries9464]

@@ravindunethsara1199 Either Harry already had the Gryffindor traits, or he valued them before even meeting Ron.

[@Finance_Guy02]

Ron was the only weasley who resented his financial situation 😂😂you should meet Percy

[@tavadaardendrian319]

Let’s not forget that by book six, Fred and George certainly didn’t resent THEIR financial situation haha

[@Avenging_Archer]

Ron is my favorite. Not a the smartest, most perfect at age 11 or the literal chosen one who does almost no wrong. Ron is relatable, and he's the one who grows the most and reacts the most realistically every time. He is also the bravest, because he gets scared a lot, and bravery is action in spite of fear, not the absence of it.

[@lightcuriel8789]

Lestat220289 how could you say Ron isn’t so smart 😳

[@austinmccormick8952]

Infact, 1 of the only characters in the Harry Potter franchise/Lore that is more terrified than Ron. Is Ben Copper in the game Hogwarts Mystery(please do not destroy me for this. It is a Pottermore game, at least to my understanding)

[@Jamsaladd]

Ron is the worst man.

[@Avenging_Archer]

@@lightcuriel8789 Said he wasn't the smartest haha most aren't when put next to Hermione.

[@austinmccormick8952]

@@Jamsaladd You must not have read the comment

[@maddie7704]

ron also has the patience of a saint. imagine having to deal with harrys horrible temper and hermiomes bossiness everyday lmao

[@trishamiller5405]

Bull

[@barrels1346]

No, he's pretty moody most of the time 😂

[@poulomi__hari]

@@barrels1346 that's natural when you deal with two big time narcissists.

[@poulomi__hari]

Exactly. Hermione would have died an old maid if not for Ron. And Harry perhaps would have died alone, again, if Ron didn't befriend him. He endured Hermoine's annoying temper, and Harry's annoying mood swings...

[@barrels1346]

@@poulomi__hari I would consider Hermione as the opposite, Harry only had mood swings because he literally had part of Voldemorts soul in him. Ron was not patient at all, he got jealous and mad when Hermione got a date and Harry was accused of the goblet of fire, he was rarely there when his friends needed help, although he was extremely important in the story

[@randomnerdery6511]

Hermione takes so many of Ron's book moments in the movies because Steve Kloves is disturbingly obsessed with Hermione.

[@awsome182]

Exactly. And Steve Kloves wanted Harry and Hermione to be a thing. That's why the kiss of them in DH (the Horkrux locket kiss) was even better shot and longer and more passionate than the real kiss between Ron and Hermione at the end.

[@spirittammyk]

He should of just left Ron out and have it be Harry and Hermione! Even JK Rowlings thinks she made a mistake creating Ron.

[@ravenabrown9947]

@@spirittammyk ron is jk's favourite character lol

[@Flarish216]

@@spirittammyk she probably thought this after the movies… a really dumb thought to be honest.

[@patinhoquemoralogoali9280]

@@Flarish216 she has a negative bias, bcus, as she Said, she hates him bcus he ended up being popular

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

The movies undermined Ron to give more Hermione moments, and Harry moments. That was unnecessary. They all shine uniquely, and it was their friendship that saved one another. In the books and movies I was so heartbroken when Harry and Ron would fight and celebrate when they got back together.

[@isabella-bh2zp]

TIFFANY PERSAUD and they do the same with Hermione and Harry. For the most part book Harry does what movie Harry does but something, like the dragon in DH, are given to Hermione. Harry is known for his nerve and they give that to Hermione to make her seem cooler to people who can’t appreciate who she actually is.

[@klaudiagrob]

I don't see the problem.

[@analeticia645]

Ron is the character that gives people a sense of realism. He's the one that's not financially stable like a lot of families in the real world, and he doesn't have a "thing." He's an outcast, with his best friends being the best wizards you could think of and his family outshining him in many ways, he's like a lot of us. However, he's loyal and trustworthy, and without him Harry would never know what it feels like to have a family. Ron also brings Harry and Hermione back to reality when they can't think straight, he's the glue.

[@ylvaborg1578]

pastel tears and to plus on a little Ron looks after Harry and Hermione when they are to busy saving the world and they forget to look after themselves

[@pascalfernandes6432]

yep i thing thats why Harry has a problem talking to hermionie sometimes. Though she is his Otehr Best friend she is still not his best friends as long as Ron is, with ehr becoming his otehr BF after Halloween 1991. Also isnt it in the book so that even though tehy talk to each other when tehy have problems they will always go to Ron first ( though they propaly happy when in Harrys Case Hermionie and in her case Harry is already with Ron so that they dont have to tell it twice=

[@luenaiya]

pastel tears spot on!

[@SereniaSaissa]

Ron will always be the useless git IMO - he does NOTHING for Harry - except run away or get jealous. Ron is a coward - scared of spiders, scared of snape, scared of everything!!

[@analeticia645]

SereniaSaissa That's no where near true. Ron may be afraid of a lot of things, but lets not forget how he volunteered to be tortured instead of Hermione in the last book. And when they still took Hermione, all he could think about was getting her back. He even screamed her name knowing very well he might've gotten killed for acting like that. Ron deserves WAY more credit than people give him. And he's like a brother to Harry. He gets jealous because Ron's always in his family and friend's shadows. I'd be the same way. But Ron was there for Harry for as long as it took.

[@VixenVilleInge]

I think Ron has a couple advantages Harry and Hermione don't. Due to Ron being born into magic, he's got so much history and titbit type of info on the wizarding world Hermione won't find in a book. That's turned out to be helpful. Also, I think Ron is the most socially skilled of the three. He's neither a famous young boy who everyone puts on a pedestal, nor is he a nerdy outcast like Hermione. I think his social skills are an important factor to the group's success as well. Ron is the heart of their group, that makes him valuable as a character.

[@mjfan8704]

You know there is a fanfiction about the Golden Trio time traveling to the era of the Founders of Hogwarts and in that story, Ron seems to be quite similar to the book character. Maybe something you would like to read if you haven't already. It's called Strangers In Another Century.

[@jawstrock2215]

Ron is the glue, that keeps the shattered pieces of Harry together.

[@klaudiagrob]

Oh yes he certainly kept pieces of Harry when he believed that Harry has lied about the Goblet of Fire. The minute Harry said it wasn't me that's when Ron should have been like I believe you. Harry was suffering so much so that puts him in the exceptional circumstances. Ron might be jealous of Harry's situation but his situation is filled with pain and suffering.

[@ilivefortodoroki2259]

@@klaudiagrob what about every other time?

[@_natya]

@@klaudiagrob Harry was suffering but who was poor and the underdog , RON IS A HUMAN

[@-cosmixnebulae-7398]

@@klaudiagrob What about Chamber of Secrets, Ron stays by Harry the entire book Order of the Phoenix everyone thinks Harry is a liar, Ron doesn’t, he could have easily just sided with the big side.

[@francis7064]

It’s “pretty obvious” that Steve Kloves hated Ron and shipped harry and hermione

[@spirittammyk]

It's pretty obvious that JK Rowlings should have listened and just have Ron die and Hermione and Harry be together.

[@keep_calm_and_love_finction]

@@spirittammyk you are completely crazy!!!!!

[@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964]

@@spirittammyk get back to the asylum

[@OverLorD768]

@@spirittammyk it's pretty obvious that no writer or any other creator in their right mind should ever listen to shippers. Ever.

[@theemperorofdrifts5854]

He didnt hate ron. He said that hermione was his favourite charakter tho

[@malmaller2375]

Did anyone else feel as though the filmmakers made Ron feel more indifferent and cold in the later movies? He almost seemed like he was hanging around just to get with Hermione.

[@user-cs8zh2px2m]

mal maller It's Steve Kloves fault.

[@malmaller2375]

I mean I guess, but I liked what he did Ron with the earlier movies.

[@scifiwriter1006]

mal maller I tend to agree.

[@ravenclawwitchdaughterofat4025]

I mean to be honest I feel like the haul Half blood Prince is kind of a hit or miss. I mean a lot was much to be desired in that movie.

[@TsukabuNosoratori2]

ravenclaw witch daughter of athena I agree. I loved HBP the book, but so much of the movie makes me cringe and it's just not that enjoyable to me. I love the book so much more in this case.

[@Tasha9315]

How about a video on the parallels between the friendships of Harry/Ron and James/Sirius? Harry and James are represented by stags as their spirit animal while Ron and Sirius are represented by dogs as their spirit animal. Plus, James opened his home to Sirius to escape his abusive family like Ron did for Harry.

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

Tasha9313 Wow.

[@citywitt3202]

Mind blown

[@quentindiaz9418]

Blimey!

[@OppositeofHATE7]

Patronus. Not spirit animal. Patronus.

[@nikkilee3840]

But Ron isn't a very sirious person.

[@drpepperdemon]

Someone: Is Ron pointless? Would the books have been the same without him? Me: Did Draco fall in love with his apple so much he married it? Someone: No Me: Exactly!

[@juststopalready]

correct

[@toothlessash8777]

And now someone’s watched the movies more than they should. Do you even remember the books? Ron wasn’t just angry because Crookshanks seemed to have killed Scabbers, it was because Hermione never took responsibility for her cat and even after telling her to not bring that thing near him she still brought him everywhere. Second, if Ron wasn’t a character then how would have Harry gotten to Hogwarts? Yes he could’ve just written a letter but he wouldn’t have because we know in that moment he didn’t think of it. If Ron wasn’t a character then Harry would have never gotten through the chessmen in the first book. Rob also wouldn’t have been able to get the sword of Gryffindor in the lake in “The Deathly Hallows”, which would’ve meant the death of Harry. If there’s any more examples or I got something wrong please let me know.

[@prishjosh9303]

He also made that fraud lockheart forget he memory (in a way) He was with harry always to comfort and help with his plans He was a true friend and taught Harry a lot of things The golden trio would never be there without him He was a lifesaver And saved them 2773839949485665647189191018283737464 times

[@auronnyagangopadhyay7104]

If ron hadn’t insulted hermionie then she wouldn’t have cried in the bathroom and she wouldn’t have been attacked by the troll and they wouldn’t have saved and they would not have been friends and thwy wouldn’t do anything without her.

[@anonymousgaslighter345]

@@auronnyagangopadhyay7104 if Hermione wasn't being a know it all and treating Ron like some peasant or oaf or something in the first book before they became friends Ron would've been nicer to her. Even in the movie did you see the way she looked at him when she greeted him it was ridiculous. I love Hermione but I would be lying that before I got to that chapter where they become friends if I didn't hate her the first time I read sorcerer's stone

[@auronnyagangopadhyay7104]

@@anonymousgaslighter345 true

[@okthen3583]

Nah he knows how to play wizard chess!

[@erin6472]

ok then TRUE HE’S VERY SKILLED

[@danielcenteno1630]

That’s _TOTALLY BARBARIC_

[@crystallion6324]

ok then that is good for ron

[@MrGabeanator]

yea

[@timmhodges1144]

Leave don out of this!

[@EditsByLyra]

I'm cringing that you even bother to ask this question, Ben. Thank God, you concluded that he was not, in fact, pointless. Also, I feel like you brush over some things to make them appear less flattering towards Ron. "He wins a chess match", more like he wins a chess match by choosing to sacrifice himself for his best friend and for the wizarding world at eleven years old. "He crushes the quidditch game because Harry manipulates him into winning." Way to take the credit away from Ron. Harry helps Ron believe in himself long enough for him to show what he was capable of all along. It's still Ron's accomplishment. "He loses his mind and abandons his best friends" Woah, I can't believe this is still up for debate. It was explained in the books. He meant to step out of the tent, storm off like we all do after a big argument, and then come back after cooling off. He just forgot about the whole enchantment, in the heat of the argument, and got stuck out of the charm bubble thing. And he cared so much about going back to his best friends, that he would hear Harry and Hermione's voices whenever they spoke of him and then a freaking ball made out of light grew from his heart and showed him the way. Ron is flawed, like you said in the conclusion, but that just makes him human. He's been there for Harry through so much, he's offered him a family. And even though he felt jealous of his best friend (because he wrongly thought that his own mom didn't care about him like she cared about Harry, he thought the girl he loved preferred Harry too), he was still willing to protect Harry at all costs. He wanted to sacrifice himself in the first book. In PoA, he stood up on his broken leg to protect Harry from who they thought was a death eater and wanted murderer by saying "if you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us too. Did you hear me? You'll have to kill all three of us." Later in the books, he reaffirms their friendship by telling Harry that he could count of them, that they would follow him in his quest to find the Horcruxes and kill Voldemort. And there's a lot more that I'm not even mentionning here.

[@JoBT42]

He also returns to save Harry from the frozen pond when Harry is pulled down by the horcrux trying to retrieve the Gryffindor sword.

[@amberclay6291]

And let's not leave out the fact that Harry could be a horrible friend to both Ron and Hermione. He was verbally abusive, dismissive of Ron's issues, and at some points just mean. But Ron stuck by Harry's side risking his life and opening his home. The way that Harry reacted to Ron being chosen as a Perfect is very telling, So it drives me up the wall when people questions Ron's merit. Ron had every right to leave, he is a human being who had his own issues to deal with.

[@jadestone-production08]

He’s so useless because they gave all his good quality’s to other characters like Hermine and Harry

[@tanmayihegde9028]

*Hermione

[@luisa6142]

only in the movies

[@awsome182]

@@tanmayihegde9028 in other languages her name is actually written as "Hermine", for example in the German version 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MrParkerman6]

No one cares about Germany though.

[@suranjanad3861]

@@MrParkerman6 The commenter could've been from Germany...

[@ocean6828]

The short answer: no Long answer:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@prishjosh9303]

😂😂

[@prishjosh9303]

I agree

[@robben1980]

Whenever someone tells me that Ron is pointless, I always ask them to imagine the Harry Potter series without Ron. After all, if Ron is completely pointless, then his presence shouldn’t matter. But there are a few problems in a Ron-less HP series. 1. Family. Arguably Ron’s biggest contribution to the series is that he opens up his family to Harry. One could say that Ginny, Fred or George could have easily have done so but let’s not forget that none of them are in Harry’s year. F and G spent more time pulling pranks than wanting to be friends with Harry and seeing that they are both each other’s best friend, it makes it hard to have an impact on Harry. Ginny comes a year later by which time, it might be too late to imprint on Harry’s character. At 11 years old, Harry needed a best friend who was constantly with him at all times. Taking out Ron means taking out the Weasleys and without a family, Merlin only knows just how Harry might have turned out. 2. Harry’s character. Harry is someone who has a rather angry temperament though to no fault of his own, seeing how much pain he had to go through. Ron wears his heart on his sleeve and is no pushover when it comes to arguing. Without Ron there to support and challenge Harry at times, Harry often feels miserable and empty as seen in the two times that Ron isn’t around. Even with Hermione around, Harry still feels depressed as compared to the third book when he and Ron were against Hermione in the Firebolt incident. In that incident, we see a rather guilt- ridden Harry but one who was not so much in misery for not having Hermione by his side. Hermione is extremely important to Harry but as in the fourth book, it is Ron who Harry would miss the most. 3. Formation of the Golden Trio. Imagine having no Ron during that first train ride. Hermione wouldn’t be at odds with him and thus, wouldn’t have been crying in the bathroom. Would she and Harry still be friends without a troll to fight? Hermione, in her first year, admitted herself that she was unable to make friends and her know-it-all character back then made it hard to do so. The troll incident was thus crucial to the formation of the trio which couldn’t have happened if Ron and Hermione hadn’t been fighting in the first place. 4. Hermione’s character. I laugh every time someone tells me that Ron would become abusive to Hermione. Remind me again who set birds on whom and who is better at casting spells? Nevertheless, Ron is the person that Hermione needed for her personal growth. Hermione, at a young age, was accustomed to being right and that led to a form of pride that can be annoying at times. Ron was the guy that brought her back down to earth. With Ron constantly bickering in her face, it prevented any form of hubris from growing inside of Hermione. Yes, Ron is insensitive and immature but he was also very honest about his feelings and he treated Hermione as an equal rather than a Mary Sue. Ron is also highly protective of Hermione and can be seen defending her against Draco, Snape, Sirius (when he was suspected to have killed James and Lily) and at Malfoy Manor. She does the same for him as well. Add the fact that Hermione falls for Ron and vice versa, nothing else needs to be said. 5. Plot wise. Ron is the one who beats the chess task. The one who helps Harry break into the Chamber of Secrets (thank Merlin for that broken wand). The one who brought Scabbers to Hogwarts, allowing for Sirius’s innocence to be revealed, helped Harry countless times not only on missions but in life as well. Not to mention saving Harry from drowning in a lake. Ron is also important in giving information about the wizarding world to H and H. 6. Can’t be replaced. Just like Hermione, Ron is irreplaceable when it comes to the HP story. A lot of fanfiction have Neville going in place of Ron which works in fanon but not in canon. A timid and meek Neville who only comes to his own in the last two books would not be a suitable replacement for Ron. I could go on and on but at the end of the day, we must give Ron his due. Whether you like or hate him, to say that he was pointless meant that you really don’t understand HP. You can question the character of Ron all you want but his importance, especially as the second most-mentioned character in the book, is undeniable. Kudos to your video! Love it by the way. P.S, as you can probably tell, I am a Ron fan. I love Harry and Hermione as well. Ron is most definitely NOT just for comic- relief and it pains me to see how the movies have depicted him.

[@damodarraul4380]

Ron is amazing and I loved him in movies without reading the books first

[@juicy_fruit9622]

I totally Agree! Without Ron there wouldn't be Hermonie or Harry. Ron is one of the most important characters in Hp.

[@prishjosh9303]

My favourite character through and through is ofc Ron, Also thanks for this 😎 awesome 👏 comment u deserve more likes

[@klaudiagrob]

Yeah especially when he left Harry

[@saptaparnidatta2403]

Ahem, all right, but Hermione was better at casting spells. And I love Ron too, how can I not love Harry's best friend 🤗..but my favourite character is Hermione...the golden trio is ❤️

[@nerdoseven332]

Ronald Bilius Weasley is a damn treasure. Haven't even watched the video yet but just felt the need to make this statement

[@kilderok]

Helena Kristins hilariously, bilius sounds like bilious, which means 'of or pertaining to bile/vomiting'. Well ..he DOES like to bellyache.

[@JohnSmith-bk9vp]

In the books Ron was the one who explained aspects of Wizarding society to Harry and Hermione.

[@awsome182]

Yes. And in the movies, those lines were given to Hermione, because the screenwriter Kloves loved Hermione and could explain this change as "because she's so smart, she's probably read it in a book".

[@mikshinee87]

@@awsome182 The screenwriter Kloves totally knew Hermione is the book stand in for the empress JK Rowling who had a direct influence on whether or not he keeps his employment. There is this very telling interview with the both of them when she says something like " I am so happy that Hermione is your favourite character because she is so difficult to love. I was afraid you were going to say Ron is your favourite". Kloves is no fool.

[@dhruvbharija172]

He was useless after book and movie 2

[@thebestofthebestmedia7545]

@@dhruvbharija172 Tu har jage pe yahee karte'o kya?

[@RageshreeChatterjee17]

First when the books released, Ron was everyone's favourite because he was so funny and Harry was a sad boi and Hermione a smartass, who even Harry found insufferable sometimes. But Hermione was a favourite of the screenplay writer of the films, so she literally got a badass edit (which she definitely deserves) and of course you can't cut out Harry Potter out of Harry Potter so by default Ron got the short stick (read goofy idiot who likes to eat a lot) and Hermione got a lot of Ron's lines because she is so smart, she must have read it in a book.

[@RadioKilledMusic]

Ron was the friend Harry needed

[@addisono.4565]

Yes

[@CrusaderRAHHHH]

But not the one he deserves

[@susanstark6365]

Radio Killed Music ron is Harry’s friend that he needs but nothing else

[@adamstryzlakyr2720]

Agatha Derry *ya right there*

[@JoseMartinez-gk2ke]

no.

[@l0ker507]

Ron was the only one who had to use their siblings old stuff instead of getting new ones. I mean, if my memory works as it should, he only got his own wand because he broke the secondhand wand he got from a family member at the beginning of book 2. You would be complaining about your family's financial situation as well in that scenario.

[@insertusername4079]

Mistress Tatentim WHO THE MOVIE JUST HAPPENED TO ACT AS IF HE DIDN’T EXIST 😡😡

[@PhebusdesTours]

Yes you're right, Ron's first wand was Charlie's old one.

[@zellrang]

Ron is a moodmaker... without him, everyone's gloomy

[@alexisc800]

He's honestly my favorite character in the series

[@firetiger3639]

yeah

[@SabaKhan-zp5of]

rons the one i can relate to cos all my siblings to well at school id do alright but i am not great and i always feel like i am in their shadow just like ron

[@SabaKhan-zp5of]

that is why he is my favourite character

[@tkimins]

Ron is the person that shows harry that love still exists in the world. Without that Harry would not have compassion and friendship and love. Exactly the things that Harry needed to beat Voldemort.

[@tracecole9849]

tkimins great 👍🏼 👏👏👏👏

[@dhruvbharija172]

And left him 😂 when he needed him

[@erin6472]

I saw the notification for this video and when I read the title I was like “NO RON’S AMAZING” 😂

[@sophieennis1569]

Rin's Harmony same

[@lillaboxall1302]

Same

[@maliai1278]

Me too.

[@maddysburner]

Rin's Harmony same😂 Weasley is our king

[@mikehunt3688]

I mean, he's not, but Ik what you're saying, and I agree.

[@jmb5740]

Ron saved Harry's life in the pool with the sword of griffindoor when the horcruxs was strangling Harry. NOT POINTLESS 👿👿👿

[@klaudiagrob]

Oh let's not exaggerate Snape must have been around. Ron himself mentioned that he saw something move. Snape who spent 7 years protecting Harry, wouldn't just leave him there. He would use a spell

[@abigailw7146]

@@klaudiagrob snape also mentally abused harry, because he couldn't drop a grudge

[@justakid2105]

Abigail Wallis Exactly!!!Lots of people forget that Snape,despite being an anti-hero,was not a completely good person.He what?Belittle Harry from when he was 11 just because of James Potter who’s 6 feet underground??Being a succesfully unsupportive teacher that shatter his own students’ confidence and self-worth??

[@eurywoulahan7412]

@@justakid2105 exactly. Snapes character was made to be a not completely good person. he hated james so much and if i was snape i would too and he held a grudge which he shouldn't of done but he did protect harry he bullied harry but he made sure harry was safe which made him still a amazing character even though he's no perfect ( i also think people make out snape to be a angel)

[@richardkraus1305]

I want a Ron. I have a few best friends, some of whom are more Ron-y than others, but they're all scattered at this point in my life, and none are with me right now.

[@tiny11223322]

I think one of Ron's biggest contributions to the story is that without having that friendship with Harry, Harry would have never met or gotten close to the whole Weasley family, who are arguably his greatest allies.

[@spirittammyk]

Greatest allies? No, Dumbledore, McGonagal, Hagrid, Hermione, Lupin, Sirius and even Snape were greater allies.

[@Scoobydoothepodcast]

@@spirittammyk nope you also relize watch the movies he saved harry twice once from the troll and 2nd from drowning in deathly hollows part 1

[@nicdavid6961]

Harry didn’t manipulate Ron in The quidditch game. He just gave him a confidence boost, which means it was all Ron and his mind.

[@borgwir]

i call a placebo manipulation

[@MarkHogan994]

That's the literal definition of manipulation. He tricked/deceived him into doing something.

[@nicdavid6961]

Mark Hogan he didn’t not physically manipulate him at all. Ron had all the resources there, but one tiny situation made them available.

[@allofthiswasanexperimentlo9641]

+Nic David physical manipulation would not be manipulation. for example. you want someone to kill someone else. if they refuse you hurt them untill they do it. that would be physicall manipulation true and smart manipulation would be filling the persons heart with hate of your target and giving him/her hints that "it" could all be solved with the targets death. that was a "voldemorty" example. now lets get back on topic. if harry forced ron to train every single second of his free time then that would also be physicall manipulation. but he made ron think he was lucky "filling his heart with confidence in this one" which was true manipulation. the person doesnt realize they are being manipulated.

[@lexizheng2472]

But the thing is, he tricked him. Ron thought he saw harry put the potion in his food, therefore he thought he could do it no problem. And he does. Harry manipulated Ron into doing well by tricking him.

[@TheRealAndrewMurray]

Every Frodo needs his Sam. Every Harry needs his Ron. It's that simple.

[@dhruvbharija172]

Hermione was the one who never left him Sam as frodo , Ron was useless after book and movie 2

[@dhruvbharija172]

@@grizal5669 even books , atleast movie Ron co operated with them , book Ron just keep on whinning everytime

[@parthvisharma5866]

@@dhruvbharija172 Not YOU again HERMIONE GET'S ON HARRY'S NERVES A LOT and RON is the one who tells her to drop it! this guy literally called Ginny a FAN GIRL in one of his comments. And Ron wasn't useless YOU ARE. Honestly, you make me SICK! Edit: I don't hate Hermione she's a great friend but sometimes she's more logical than sympathetic like when Harry used the sectumsempra spell Hermione just went all full on him

[@dhruvbharija172]

@@parthvisharma5866 Hermione get one nerves still listened only to Hermione when he distanced himself from everyone in ootp 😂😂 , ohh okay you are a Ron Stan , I can't expect you to understand anything

[@dhruvbharija172]

@@koldenf3971 I can't write how Harry Hermione are because than I would be end up writing almost all hp books 😂

[@s.m.a111]

what about the time Ron saved harry from drowning

[@northnorth7585]

And jumped back into the ice cold water after he saves him to get the sword

[@toriandtilly]

Listen that Uranus joke was LIT

[@naomi_falk]

hahayourfunny94, YES

[@ceilidancr]

Before even watching this video: Ron is the strategist, the common sense voice of reason who gives Harry and Hermione all the background information they lack about wizarding culture. He’s the heart, keeping the team positive and motivated, and both Harry and Hermione feel something acutely missing and wrong when he isn’t around to balance their intensity. Ron is Harry’s best friend, with all the emotional depth and fun and standing up for each other that entails. Anyone who thinks Ron is useless is wrong, and could probably use a reread of the books. Ron hate is just a function of movie-only fans not knowing better and shipping fans liking evil Ron as a plot device to further Drarry or Dramione. The fandom has been flooded with Ron hate for years and it is old news. We know the answer. He always comes back for his friends. This video never needed to be made.

[@madhatten00]

Ron hate is mostly cause Harmony never happened. The fandom you're talking about with the shipping, they know Drarry and Dramione wouldn't happen. Harmony though, even Jk Rowling herself got herself backtracking later on and said she "should've/could've" done it instead of Hinny.

[@opsatr]

On the statement that this video never needed to be made... I thought it was a pretty nice tribute to Ron. :)

[@imadorkandthisismypicturen1574]

Whithout ron the TRIO wouldnt be stable ron is like the glue he holds them together. Hes also kind loyal and will stand up for his freinds even in a time of crisis. He also showed harry what love and friendship truly means scince harry was stuck at the durslys for most of his childhood.and last (even though theres more) ron can be really relatable and have a sort of connection with the reader And movie ron is alot diffrent than book ron so read the book before you judge ron and/or ginny...

[@dragonlord1935]

@@ravindunethsara1199 No he isn't, When Ron stops talking to Harry in the triwizard tournament the only reason why Hermione and Harry don't drift apart is because Hermione's brains are needed for the next task.

[@awsome182]

Hermione is the brain, Harry the soul, and Ron? Ron is the heart of the trio. As you've put it perfectly: he holds them all together.

[@dhruvbharija172]

Ron was glued to them , he made the situation worst

[@remusa.423]

Hey Guys it's actually the producer's fault. 1. The Producer is a harmione shipper 2. The Producer actually doesn't like the Weasley's There you go. Also pls don't hate on Rupert Grint he did great if you just combined book Ron + Rupert Grint it will be really gooooood. Edit: he isn't useless in the movies he destroyed a bloody horcrux, give Harry the family he never and without him Harry would never had gone to Hogwarts in the 2nd Year.

[@dhruvbharija172]

He is useless after book and movie 2

[@jessicanatalialucas7229]

@@dhruvbharija172 you're seriously replying to every comments that commends Ron and then oppose it. Calm down, Ron-hater, it's fictional.

[@dhruvbharija172]

@@LeiaCariappa-zk9yt and one thing more every script has to be verified by jk Rowling

[@dhruvbharija172]

I love movie Ron more 😊

[@hermionegranger63]

@@dhruvbharija172 Of course you would mate , because you know very that book Ron is a king and Hermione happily married to him 😊

[@autumndrittler8986]

I saw the title and I stg 🔪🔪 Ron did not introduce Harry into a loving functional family and support him for you to come for him like this 🖐😪

[@michaelauberry1564]

PREACH

[@gennybaratta2460]

same

[@cherryquartz810]

Um that's not a crying emoji it's a sleeping emoji and that tear is actually a snort bubble

[@ashminley]

@@cherryquartz810 yeah but we use it like that anyways

[@Cheyenne_eats_cheese]

Exactly

[@MARYWTHER]

Me, reading this title: "Exxxxxxx-cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-se Meeeeeeeeee?" Also uuuuh NO, Harry and Malfoy are not opposite. They're actually pretty similar: just because Draco seems to have a family, doesn't mean he has any that even resembles what the Weasleys are (awesome). Ron and Draco are the opposite: Ron's dad has values and is mocked at the Ministry, Draco's dad has no value and is loved at the Ministry. Ron's dad is part of the Order of the Phoenix, Draco's dad is a Death Eater. Ron has plenty of brothers and a sister, and was not wanted by his mother. Draco is an only child and is adored (in a weird way) by his mother. Ron's family is poor. Draco's super rich (and since you pointed that out, BOTH characters are pointing it out several times). Ron is a pure Gryffindor. Draco is a pure Slytherin. Ron's family looses A LOT and sacrifices a lot for the War, while Draco's family just runs away from the fight at the end of DH. Both are pure blood, yes, but they're actually the epithome of nurture over nature. We know that Tom Riddle is Harry's opposite and not Malfoy. Actually just like Draco vs Ron, in Harry vs Riddle we have the same "kind" of upbringing (as an orphan, not knowing the wizarding world and their inheritance) and yet opposite outcomes: again, nurture over nature. That's the whole idea of the books, the whole philosophy of the HP saga: we CHOOSE who we want to be. Where we come from doesn't matter! And Draco is basically the "failure" of that message (hence why JKR doesn't understand why soooooo many people worship Draco). Now for the things that make Harry and Draco very similar: both come from filthy rich families. Both have Slytherin's traits. Both are good at Quidditch and are competitive. Both are good at DATDA. The only difference they have is regarding their upbringing and because of what? Oh yeah because DUMBLEDORE had a hand in Harry's. Draco is the dude that Harry COULD have become (kinda like James, and I think even Harry himself make the comparison between his own father and Draco!) had he grown up in the Wizarding world smh I thought that was super obvious. That's exactly why when McGonagall is like "nooot these muggleeees" at the beginning of the first book, that Dumbledore is like "it's necessary". That's also why, coming to Hogwarts, the first choice that Harry has to make, reflecting to his future house (and possibly his future as a whole) is who to choose between Ron and Draco as a friend. Slytherin vs Gryffindor. Also while Ron is insecure because of his background regarding his mother and the way she treats Harry while it's so well-known that she didn't want Ron because she wanted a girl, Draco is just freaking jealous of Harry. He's *not* insecure. And I can't believe anyone would discuss Ron's use in Harry's world. It's the first time Harry ever belongs: with a friend and with a family. The Weasleys become Harry's family and I can't believe how ungrateful the HP fandom is to them. Molly and Arthur Weasley are the first people to show Harry some love and to give him food at their table like an equal. These sandwiches that Ron give him are the first thing anyone shares with Harry. So YES it IS important to Harry and the whole creation of who Harry is gonna become as a wizard. Like, I'm sorry, diminishing Ron's entire emotional role in Harry's life by pretending that DRACO (uuuuuuugh: facist, racist, bully Draco...) of all people could have played that role too, is just horrible. No-no-no-no-nooo. It's clear that Harry would have been a totally different person had he "chose" Draco over Ron. Now let's not forget that Ron really wanted to try and see if he could participate in the Three Wizards Tournament. And that he was mostly mad at Harry for managing to "trump" Dumbledore's spell and put his name in the Goblet of Fire without telling him how he did it (or even telling him he did it). And something you kindaaaa forgot to mention (weiiird umm...) is the fact that even mad at Harry, Ron was the one who came up with the idea to tell to Harry about the dragons on the first trial and even at that point he understood that Harry was in danger and he wanted to help him (and be on his side again). But Harry was too thick (and tbh kinda arrogant, so sure that Ron was just jealous of his success) to understand that so he lashed out once more at Ron. Ron vainquished all his fears for his friends, several times. He stood up, injured, against what he thought was a serial killer at 13 yo to protect his best friend. He walked into a giant spider's nest to support his friend and save Hermione's life. He broke the law at 15 yo to help his friend to save his godfather. He left his whole family in times of war, right after his home was attacked and he didn't know if his family survived or escaped, to try and go in a desperate chase of unknown objects with his bestfriend, at 17 yo. He lost a brother, got another one bitten by a werewolf, and another one crippled, for Harry, so ummmm? If y'all think Ron is useless I'll gladly take all your Rons and make them my friends!

[@whosthefoolnowyouoversized8229]

omfg yesss thank you for writing this. it makes me happy that someone views it the same way i do

[@maragathm]

There was one very significant negative point about Harry that people tend to ignore is that Harry genuinely believes he is better than Ron. He likes to pretend otherwise but even he admits it. When Ron is made prefect Harry is consumed by anger and jealousy. Ron and Harry are evenly matched in studies so the only reason to make Harry prefect over Ron is because Harry is the chosen one and he has a special bond with Dumbledore, Harry has an inflated ego and that makes him more like Draco. Ron is the most human of the trinity, Harry is just born special and Hermoine is super human genius but Ron IS US, most of us in life are just average just getting by trying to do right by our friends, right by our family, trying to survive in a world plagued by insecurities but amidst all that you have to be the best you can be, hating Ron is like hating ourselves WE ARE RON.

[@nyxthefox2522]

Well I agree on almost every aspect you have to think personality wise this is where Ron and Draco sort of come together you have to think that is family wise and what they were raised to think. Both Draco and Ron are very sensitive and jealous easily both have a love for quidditch as well as have knowledge for the wizard world and have joined a group to support there view point and it just happens to be opposite view points

[@TouseefPara]

@nora girl 👩‍🏫

[@priyankachoudhury2965]

I read the entire comment without even realising it... bravo!! someone actually wrote something worthwhile...

[@sportsfaniguess154]

To answer the title. Only in the movies

[@silvertheelf]

I think he’s useful, without him in the first movie, and the second movie, and the third movie... really, Harry would never be in the second movie. There would be no second movie. Also the monsters they met were not mermaids, they were British swamp demons called grindylows (yes, you are allowed to call me Newt Scamander, I am a mythical creature nerd... monsters, prehistoric organisms, and life forms in general nerd)

[@denissalim2909]

Just pointing out, even without Ron saying the line about bad wizards coming from Slytherin (whose line originally came from Hagrid in the book), Book Harry had already already met Malfoy at Diagon alley and on the Hogwarts express and already didn't like him. And Draco was sorted before Harry (alphabetically), therefore a big part of Harry not wanting Slytherin was so as not to be stuck with Draco and the rest of the 'unpleasant looking' lot at the Slytherin table. I always got the impression Harry (at that point) would have been fine with any house other than Slytherin.

[@szabobendeguz2767]

"Ron was great," said Tonks warmly, reliquishing her hold on Lupin. "Wonderful. Stunned one of the Death Eaters, straight to the head, and when you're aiming at a moving target from a flying broom -" "You did?" said Hermione, gazing up at Ron with her arms still around his neck. "Always the tone of surprise," he said a little grumpily, breaking free.

[@Dmitry___S.]

Uranus joke has happened in the 4th book in Divination class: Harry & Ron giggled @it for a moment, but then remembered they don't talk to each other. Was kinda shocked it even happened, was even more amused it happened in the next book! 😂

[@viviandoherty6354]

I just love the moment where Ron try’s to defend Hermione it’s actually cute and is a good blossom to their future relationship.

[@jmoconnell]

How did you make a video talking about Ron's usefulness and not mention his family? Harry gained a mom, dad, tons of brothers, and a wife/sister(lol) by knowing Ron. As someone who has gained a spot in 2 families from tight friendship, this is worth a LOT!

[@spirittammyk]

So, basically, Ron was nothing more than a plot device?

[@Liam-jy7yi]

Because he was talking *specifically* about ron

[@40GamesAG]

spirittammyk Certainly not. He was a best friend and a “brother” to Harry. I doubt Harry would have gotten through his years in Hogwarts emotionally if it wasn’t for Ron.

[@akanenozaki9429]

that would be against the very point of this video. the biggest issue with ron is that many people view him as exposition and the gateway to the weasley family, and that he himself is unimportant, if not a negative force in the golden trio. this video shows that ron himself, aside from his family and wizarding background, is of extreme import.

[@venusxaino]

Why does Ron get so much hate? :'( Probably because of people who have only seen the movies.

[@leeshdee9269]

The movies ruined Ron, they shamefully neglected his good qualities and turned him into the comedic sidekick, except when he's an asshole. They really highlighted his asshole-ness. For example: Prisoner of Azkaban-book Ron: (in DADA class that Snape is substituting, where Snape mocks Hermione for being an insufferable know-it-all) "You asked a question and she gave you answer! Why ask a question if you don't want to be told?" (defending his friend) POA movie-Ron: (in DADA class that Snape is substituting, where Snape mocks Hermione for being an insufferable know-it-all) "He is right you know" POA-book Ron: (in the Shrieking Shack, where Sirius Black has revealed his true form and is trying to hold of Harry): "If you want him you'll have to go through us too!" (as he's standing on a broken leg while Hermione whimpers in the background) POA-movie Ron (in the Shrieking Shack, where Sirius Black has revealed his true form and is trying to hold of Harry)"...wha? huh?...flub?" (as he sits back whimpering without any clue what's going on while Hermione suddenly turns all badass for no reason) There are so much more examples of what the movie took away from Ron and gave to Hermione, making him yes, completely pointless in the movies.

[@gustavramirez2891]

Because he's painfully average and boring as a character, without any particular intelligence. (he has skills in chess and as a Quiddich Keeper, but that's it)

[@angelsmilkyway4352]

Yep. Because book ron is awesome

[@kallimaynard2358]

because it's popular right now among the far left feminists. It's gross sexism and vomit worthy

[@gustavramirez2891]

+Kalli Maynard How is it sexism? If Ron were female and written in the exact same way I wouldn't dislike the character any less.

[@Bad_At_Parties]

We all need a Ron in our lives. Someone who can offer levity in times of trouble, help us connect to the simple things and what really matters in life, and someone who is willing to follow you down a dark alley when they are dreadfully terrified of the prospect.

[@diamondbooks9158]

I think Ron is important because... well, he IS the reader. We grow with him - his character arc is ours!

[@SnowyWolborg]

I think the reason Ron gets so much flack is because he has many human flaws that hit too close to home to many viewers and readers. And no, I don't mean superficial flaws. I mean the ones you recognize in yourselves and people around you. That's largely, IMO why many have a harder time taking to Ron.

[@fenixchief7]

In the books they're pretty balanced. The trio all has flaws and strengths. In the movies they kind of gave all of Ron's great moments to harry and hermione and gave ron those twos shittier moments. You could argue, in the books that hermione is the most flawed of the trio.

[@goldilox369]

@@fenixchief7 agreed. Ron was always my favorite of the two friends in the books. But they ruined that in the movies. They gave all the exposition to Hermione in the movies. The writer was even interviewed on that. His favorite character in the books was Hermione.

[@omalleycaboose5937]

Its also cause the movie version... the version most people remember best... cause most people don't read or only read the books once cause I mean reading is a time commitment., Take rons strengths and gives them to Hermione. also Hermione in the books has just as many flaws as Ron. They just remove them in the films which is just as bad. our flaws are what make us human.

[@harshvardhan990]

Of course not. I feel like he usually gets overshadowed by Harry and Hermione. The best example is Albus and Aberforth. Aberforth is by no means a weak wizard, he can cast a Patronus, he can charm goats (whatever that is) but when you compare him to Albus, he probably can't hold a candle. Same thing with Ron, he can also cast Patronus Charm just like the rest of them, in fact, he did all the classes which Harry did which means he got Exceeds Expectations in DADA, Potions, Transfiguration, Herbology and Charms which by no means is bad. It's just that he didn't have as many badass moments as Harry and Hermione and hence we never got to see his talent.

[@majormana1]

But he should be most talented but Ron is least. He grew up in wizzarding world. Harry grew up under the stairs in his aunt and uncle's house in muggle world. While Hermione parent loved her she grew up in muggle world and had some issues started muggle school which is why she's drawn towards outcast.

[@mandy6289]

RON WEASLEY IS WONDERFUL AND HE MAKES THE SERIES AND BOOKS MORE WORTH IT TO READ!!!!

[@DaniCavenderHandley]

The troll-defeating thing is another place where the films did Ron dirty. In the books, Hermione is just completely freaking out and Ron thinks of what to do magically all by himself. It’s the first time we see their uniqueness in the face of adversity: They all turn to what they know. Hermione turns to books (and therefore struggles when up against something she couldn’t prepare for in advance), Harry turns to physical action (after a lifetime of fighting off Dudley and his gang) and Ron turns to magic. The same thing happens in the book during the encounter with Devils Snare. Hermione knows the theory but is freaking out too much to apply it, Harry has the idea for lighting a fire but can’t think any further than the action, and it is Ron who reminds them both to turn to magic and therefore ultimately is able to get them out of it. They are a team, and each of them is entirely necessary. That’s what the films got so wrong when they made Hermione flawless and Ron the comic relief.

[@monroerobbins7551]

Ron is a definitely useful character, in the books at least. The movies.... man. But Ron has always been my favorite; I’m the smallest of my family, and is often treated like a child, so when I read the books, I expected to love all the characters, but I mostly liked Ron (and Hagrid and Luna). He’s relatable to everyone, especially when you don’t have a Ron, and he’s the kind of Gryffindor I am; an unconventional hero (he’s the hero in the case, I can’t come up with a better word), that actually has flaws. He’s cool!

[@andreamovi6780]

Monroe Robbins PREACH

[@TheSherBru]

Have some love :)

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

He's there to offer another POV beside's Harry: he is magical raised, poor, with a big family ecc. He's a living, walking, plot device.

[@batbrackets7266]

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[@zillah1157]

He's basically there to be Harry's friend and explain the wizarding world to him.

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

Becky The Epic Nerd precisely, and Hermione is the in-between: knows about magic things (mostly) but she sees it through the eyes of a nomag. It's all very balanced, JK leaves nothing to chance with plot devices.

[@Alexa-js2mu]

Bat Brackets please don't it's rather pathetic to beg for subs

[@laurenkirby97]

The rest of his family are all plot devices too, Shouldnt their last name have been McGuffin (I know it's a dumb joke, that's the point)

[@SM-hl6hh]

Also THEY WERE TEENAGERS! TEENAGERS ARE MESSY!

[@Fortytwotrillion]

R we not gonna talk abt how Ron saved Harry in the last book when he came back to the camp and found Harry with the light thing

[@kaylenep8910]

Ron has a lot of purpose and is necessary for the book. What’s obvious? Introduction to Weasley family, chess, saves Harry from drowning, teaches him about wizarding world, is the glue of their group, etc. However, there are less obvious things. Say Draco and Harry becomes friends (which, yes, could have been possible and who says it’s not beyond the scope of the books?) and Harry is a Slytherin. He is ambitious, which is a big quality of Slytherins, but also brave which made him a Gryffindor as well. In this case, Voldemort would have won. The Malfoys would have found out, and even if Draco doesn’t submit to pressure, or excruciating torture, his mind could have been read. Additionally, Harry wouldn’t have been able to pull out the Gryffindor sword to kill the Basilisk in CoS, made the connections he did, and would later have been crushed because he was a Slytherin but his parents weren’t. He placed a lot of importance and admired his parents, remember. Second, Harry and Hermione wouldn’t have become best friends. Yes, she went to the bathroom because of Ron. Yes, they could be friends. It is very unlikely they would’ve become best friends. They wouldn’t have faced a life threatening danger together, which the book directly states forms an unbreakable bond. Second, based off the books (I never watched the movies), Ron was the chattered of the group, Harry and Hermione were more quiet. Third, Ron was more or less Harry’s brother. They form a bond Harry would be unable to have with Hermione. No, this is not because of gender. It’s because of how closely Hermione follows the rules. Many times you see Harry and Ron wanted to do something dangerous with Hermione trying to stop them before ultimately joining them. Being safe isn’t a bad thing, of course. But Harry and Ron are both adventurous, likes to dramatize, woo girls, have been neglected in some way, and it’s safe to assume that they are both each other’s first best friend or even close friend As for his flaws, he is a human, plus is going through puberty. He is insecure because of his siblings and his social status. Everyone is like that. He is there for Harry and Hermione when needed, and is loyal. Yes, he ran away in book 7. But question yourself, can you say with 100% certaincy you would have stayed? A teen going against most of the world and the strongest villain alive with no plan and no one they can surely trust aside from each other? Probably not. It’s easy to blame him but put yourself in his shoes. Harry and Hermione also show human flaws. For example, Harry blows up and screams at Hermione and Ron for not telling him anything even they could not, or Hermione being mad at them for not asking them to the dance. Think of all the moments the group has had, ignoring each other when one of them could easily apologize first. Ron hasn’t had a lot of things he could call his own, and has a lot of expectations on him. Plus, he has a family to worry about. Ron has more to lose. Think of Harry when Sirius died and how he reacted. Hermione doesn’t have to worry as much, her parents are muggles as she already took measures to give them a level of safety. They are humans, who aren’t even adults, you can’t expect them to be perfect and emotionless robots who always make the morally or logically right decision. If you want to debate(debate not argue, no insults or cursing or anything that isn’t related), feel free to comment below and we can talk. I have only read the books and haven’t seen the movies,so keep that in mind. If you’ve read this far then thank you

[@abelielle9438]

Also, we could say that when Ron leaved, he wasn't himself, he was wearing Slytherin's locket after all.

[@unknownuser5955]

How's he the glue when he's turned on his friends multiple times and abandoned them multiple times and is usually the reason if all three aren't speaking.

[@togamu785]

@@unknownuser5955 That Is a lie

[@riskas3057]

Kaylene P wow, clap* clap* clap*. Couldn’t agree more

[@akanenozaki9429]

That's exactly why he's the glue. When he stops working, the Golden Trio all falls apart. Harry and Ron can be alone and have a good time. Ron and Hermione can as well. Harry and Hermione together ends up awkward.

[@CourtneysAuntSara]

Book Weasley very needed, movie Weasley wasted

[@getorganizednotpianoized239]

COURTNEYS They were *BOTH* needed.

[@mattiemccarthy9102]

COURTNEYS AUNT SARA THANK YOU

[@peyton4895]

So true

[@jameshurley615]

@@getorganizednotpianoized239 the movie is pretty tantrumy has barely any good skills and is clueless

[@jameshurley615]

And abondons his friends and only came back because his friends didn't want him to die

[@magnifisweets]

Through Ron, Harry is also able to experience a loving and happy family. Total contrast to Dursley-land.

[@ArtistryofDebauchery]

4:47 -- But Ron risked his life to win that chess match for Harry. This was a MAJOR development of Ron's character, and you mention it in one sentence, and spend more time on less important scenes. I'm sorry but this video was completely and utterly pointless.

[@v3nus_651]

I saw a different video defending ron and it was literally perfectly going against everything he said against Ron you can go check it out I'll link it:)

[@v3nus_651]

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[@gracescott5828]

Ok, Ron didn't not talk to harry for half a school year, it was about 2 or 3 weeks. The goblet chose around Halloween while the first task was November 19 I think. Ron apologized right after the first task. So no, it was not half a year

[@matthewcooper4248]

He didn't say that about the tournament he said that about Hermione not taking responsibility for Crookshanks.

[@annakilifa331]

@@matthewcooper4248 he said it about both

[@marianat1393]

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[@lightningmcqueenstan]

ya, and even in those few weeks are the most miserable and lonely for Harry

[@inapickle806]

A lot of these types of stories have three characters who come together to make a whole and are essentially: the brains, the brawn, and the heart. Ron's the heart. Buffy has the same set up and the show The Good Place does too. In fact, the three brothers of the deathly hallows is kind of the same thing: the guy who makes the smart choice, the guy who makes a choice with his heart, and the guy who makes the choice for power.

[@isabella-bh2zp]

This is debatable but I feel like Ron is the brawn and Harry is the heart. This is because Harry can perform really advanced emotional magic, like a patronus, even when Hermione has trouble with it because it is based on emotion instead of knowledge. Harry, like the second brother, said he would want the resurrection stone which is the emotional choice. I think that Ron is the brawn because he is always the first to fight someone, like in philosophers stone when he punches Malfoy, and he also says he would want the elder wand which is the powerful answer.

[@Devonimp]

Being fair.... the fact that they had to go up against the MOST POWERFUL DARK WIZARD IN HISTORY makes reaching for the elder wand a pretty brainy choice. Doubly so cause he spent 2 years with literally the worst wand he could have possibly been given. Its a miracle he managed to get that thing to work at all.

[@SuperKaBlooey]

What about the game of Wizard Chess, protecting the Philosopher's Stond, Ron wins?

[@ghostman2371]

Hey brother!!! Ron saved Herminoe. Ron was cute at times. Ron’s car was important in times. Ron sacrificed himself for Harry. Ron was not pointless... And in the Cursed Child,Ron works for he MM

[@withlovejia_]

OMFG did you just mention the Play-that-shall-not-be-named??😰

[@cloudcovercreations]

- Ron got the trio through chess. - He flew him and Harry to Hogwarts in his father's car. - He indirectly warned Harry about the dragons. - He won the Quidditch tournament. - He destroyed a horcrux. - He helped him and Hermione get into the Chamber of Secrets.

[@luisa6142]

and was essential to Harry in terms of friendship. he was Harry’s family

[@timothyngo]

Weasley is our king

[@buttercat2718]

Ben: Dedicate a comment to your friend Me: I have no friends...

[@laurie3235]

Ron gave Harry a family and something to fight for, he’s the most important character to Harry but I can see why we as fans can sometimes overlook him

[@probablynotabigtoe9407]

Could a fictional story been written without a supporting character... obviously yes, but Ron played a key role in every year in the series... but Ron directly saved his life in the forest of dean saving Harry from drowning... just 1 example there

[@MsWatismyname]

Severus Snape was close by, as he just conjured a patronus. I think he would have saved the boy-who-lived if it was truly neccesary.

[@madhatten00]

Ron is the reason Harry becomes a Gryffindor. So that's already important in its own right. They didn't even need to be friends anymore afterwards. You could've replaced Ron with Neville.

[@Nadiki]

Weasley is our king Weasley is our king He didn't let the Quaffle in Weasley is our king Weasley can save anything He never leaves a single ring That's why Gryffindors all sing Weasley is our king *bows*

[@terabaap1775]

Both Ron and Hermione are integral in Harry's defeat of the Dark Lord. Remove one of them, and the other two are pretty sure dead.

[@jesusisscaredofme1866]

Can we all just see that Eat slugs! actually works as a spell? Like how does that work?

[@witchluisamultifandom1212]

All the other spells (or most of them) are just commands in Latin and I don't think the language really matters.

[@legostmoeliot4360]

i think it was non verbal spell. Ron was really good at it, he was better at it than Hermione or Harry.

[@abigailw7146]

@@legostmoeliot4360 in 2nd year? I doubt it