They REMOVED Harry’s True Discovery in the Mirror of Erised

[@inspector_beyond]

I kinda like how Snape turns to grab the Cloak in the movie. I know it wasn't intentional back in the day of the release, but I like to think that Snape got harassed so badly by James in that Cloak, to the point that years later Snape has a sence that somebody invisible is behind him 😅

[@catterin7815]

That sounds plausible. Personally I just assumed it had something to do with Snape being a Legilimens and he could sense a mind behind him.

[@deborahwalton-blanchard5817]

I figured it the same as you, he had experienced James in it and possibly had keener hearing and thought he heard breathing

[@kojinaoftheinvertedeye810]

Christmas at Hogwarts is just beautiful, like imagining walking through the halls, warm as they are in the first films, seeing all the decorations up and the joy in the air, that's a dream and don't get me started on having snow!

[@gdsf9839]

Absolutely, Christmas is a magical time in it's self & the Christmas scenes have always been my favourite parts & one of the main reasons I return again & again to rewatch the movies, I only wish there was much more Christmas (& winter time) content in all of the films. At 60 years of age I've been a huge fan of the magical fantasy genre since first reading The Hobbit as a young child & I can return to such movies like HP at any time but the Christmas scenes are definitely a huge highlight for me personally.

[@MrPsyJak]

That's quite interesting, Dumbledore warning Harry about not wasting away in front of the mirror - it's reflected in the Peverell brother who got the Resurrection Stone.

[@factorfantasyweekly]

So true!

[@cs3742]

It's too bad the screenplay didn't take better advantage of Rupert Grint's really great acting ability. By shrinking his personality to dim they missed the chance for a funnier wingman character. Having Harry play straight man and Ron a quirky dude would have added to the movie as a whole.

[@seantlewis376]

Yes, Ron was not so "simple" as we see him in the movies. Ron is bright while being the best, bestest friend. He may not be the smartest or wisest of the students, but he always made good decisions, unlike Harry.

[@nhansen197]

It occurred to me that Harry ignores good advice from Ron on multiple occasions. The Chamber of Secrets might have been completely different if Harry had listened to Ron and not touched the diary. Ron's best moments were given to Hermione as is, and I like the book version of what Harry saw in the mirror best. Harry didn't just want his parents back, he wanted family.

[@Ladywizard]

Except then Ginny probably would have died even faster if Harry hadn't temp intercepted after all the Tom Riddle horcrux in the diary was siphoning her life force and couldn't be destroyed by water damage

[@kendraroth1276]

@@LadywizardNo she wouldn’t. Ginny was in trouble because she wrote in the diary again. Ginny would have been fine had Harry left it alone

[@kendraroth1276]

Also the first book would have ended sooner if Hermione listened to Ron.

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

The Christmas scene was great fun, showing the teachers and other characters in a rare bit of downtime

[@seantlewis376]

Knowing what we only learn much later, I think Dumbledore saw in the mirror either his sister, or Grindelwald, the two people he missed the most in his life. Also, I always ask for socks at Christmas. I may have been inspired by Dumbledore, but I really appreciate good socks.

[@arianeboutin6295]

What I get from this video is that I need to read the books again. It's so sad because if Harry sees all his family, it's mean that they are all dead coincided with what Dumbledore saying at the beginning of the movie that the Dursley's are his only family left. So, his 4 grand-parents, the brothers and sisters (i don't know how many) of James and their's children too. Sad when I start thinking about it as an adult 😓

[@kristineweber8084]

Actually, I think we learn later that James was an only child, which does fit nicely with him being a bit of a brat when he was younger. But there would have been grandparents!

[@ronaldsmith6829]

I really liked the movies. However the books were considerably better. Which is normal.

[@winterrain1947]

Same. Books give more insight and details. Movies cannot allow you to see into the mind of the character.

[@101Waylander]

I’m so glad I found your channel, I really appreciate your work.

[@factorfantasyweekly]

Welcome to the community!

[@MrEffectfilms]

People need to understand that movies don't have the luxury of time that books do, with film simplicity is key. If you never read the book the movie still makes perfect sense and tells a great story all it's own. Perfect adaptation for a movie will never happen, so filmmakers just make the best movies they can.

[@MavenWalsh]

That and it comes down to the screenwriter/director being ill suited for the job. Kloves deliberately destroyed Ron's character in favor of his idealized version of Hermione. That was just the first film, As the series went on, they started inserting things that weren't even in the books. HBP, why follow the book when they could write some awful story about teenage romance. TDH were the only films that wre better than the books.

[@matthewrosenthal753]

@@MavenWalsh I disagree on one point. The final battle in the films is a total let down. The books Final Battle was epic and Cinematic. The actual confrontation between Harry and Voldemort in the great hall, in front of everyone, and Voldemort’s myth being destroyed by everyone seeing him fall and die as just a man was absolutely epic. What was done in the films was a nearly complete rewrite of an absolute masterpiece and nearly ruins the whole thing.

[@veryfrozen3271]

​@@matthewrosenthal753good argument the movie had 2 whole ass movies for the last book they definitely coulda gone big the last fight. It really did end super fast

[@deborahwalton-blanchard5817]

@@MavenWalshit’s believed, given that Rowling had final say, that they included it to keep the tone of the movie lighter and more age appropriate to those under 20.

[@MavenWalsh]

@@veryfrozen3271 They only followed the books. That was the final battle. Forget what Sirius said about Voldemort having had an entire army of Death Eaters + Dark Creatures from the first war. No, we got a few dozen DEs, two giants and some spiders. A total letdown. But book 7 was a rushed, half-finished piece of work. Rowling needed 2 more years.

[@sahaniperera3]

Videos like this is why a series is important. I hope they do a good job creating it.

[@larryrottenberk7771]

The Twins getting the first hits in the series on Voldemort is hilarious to me.

[@sanddagger36]

I really enjoyed the movies at first, but after seeing how Ron's character got shafted repeatedly, i've started to really despise them.

[@Frilleon]

Understandable

[@toodlescae]

I blame the screenwriter. He admitted he preferred Hermione's character.

[@Elfrida-ls2mo]

​@@toodlescaeHe is Lying she was already bright They Changed a small part of Rons Character to make Harrys Character look more bright and less of a bore also to make Harry more Likeable As Harry was the Main Character and Hero So the Changes were obviously done for Harry's Character Not for H However I had to Lol A Man trying to blame A Female No Surprise

[@cs3742]

t's too bad the screenplay didn't take better advantage of Rupert Grint's really great acting ability. By shrinking his personality to dim they missed the chance for a funnier wingman character. Having Harry play straight man and Ron a quirky dude would have added to the movie as a whole.

[@sanddagger36]

@cs3742 Instead we got gaping mouth harry It wasn't just Rupert who was under used

[@bailatwerski2951]

The Harry Potter Books are way better than the movies!!! The first movie was the best dor me because it kept to the book mostly & you have a the amazing sets, Diagon Alley & the shops, Gringotts Bank, Hogwarts etc!!!

[@robinchapman7222]

Peeves is another character not in the movies.

[@DreadKyller]

One might watch the movies and think that Ron seeing himself as Quidditch Captain and Head Boy as his hearts greatest desire is really very shallow, but in the book Dumbledore explains how it's because Ron is almost always the last thought of member of the Weasleys, every other member has something they've achieved, either being really popular, getting excellent grades, going on to be rather important of influential in some capacity, while he gets all the hand-me-downs, and who's greatest achievement so far is to be friends with someone else who also meets those criteria, this feeling of inadequacy and feeling of being the least appreciated member of the family comes back up in multiple books to be really important, it's a large part of why Ron stops talking to Harry for a while in Goblet of Fire, it's referenced in Deathly Hallows with the locket scene, and those are just the obvious ones. What he saw in the mirror was himself being recognized as being important, not ignored, not forgotten, to be successful.

[@krishnavandewalle9459]

Hey did Ron dirty in the movie

[@danielledewitt1]

?

[@krishnavandewalle9459]

@@danielledewitt1 I mean, ron in the books was much more admirable than in the movie

[@danielledewitt1]

@@krishnavandewalle9459 You said hey did Ron dirty.

[@robinfarrar3493]

I watched the first three movies before reading any of the books. It was a huge plus because, the books completed the movies, I already knew how to pronounce some of the more uncommon names, and the first three movies still are in no way a let down from the books. From the fourth movie on however…I’ve got a few *DISCREPANCIES!*. ~ Dumbledore said calmly. Honestly, THAT, they had zero footage regarding the quidditch tournament, and during the final battle they weren’t surrounded by an audience for Harry to reveal whose side Snape had truly been on the whole time; I’m happy with the movies. I feel like a lot of people are happiest with the first two and the last two movies. The first two (I felt) were certainly the most accurate to the books (for what time allows for regarding film vs. book). The last two movies, I feel like they realized they had to break up into two parts because they had left so much out of preceding films that was actually important after all. So to make everything make sense, they were forced to make the DH two movies. Of the cut scenes from ALL the movies, the only one that truly bothers me was the one where Draco throws Harry his wand. They *really* should have left that one in.

[@chtal64147]

Im really mad that we havent seen the snowball joke of the twins. Those are scenes you don't cut out to safe time! They are too funny. Hopefully the new series will show that part haha. And peeves! We need peeves

[@tamarasmith9060]

Although most changes in the movies are to simplify filming to save time & not overuse costly computerized special effects, I think they could've & should've shown the others in the mirror too instead of just his parents. Yes the strongest part of his longing is for the parents, but it would show that even at that age he's aware that having a larger extended family including the elder generations typically gives people even greater happiness through more people to love, more shared experiences, & greater security (because when a hard time hits 1 member/couple then the rest of the family helps them through it in a "pay it forward" kind of way). He could've had younger siblings, he could've had grandparents to pass on wisdom & "uncles" (dad's best friends) & maybe even his mom would've after a bit (since they both had boys close in age) found a way to use common ground to reconcile with her sister & Harry could've had a good relationship with Dudley from much younger. He already knew that to most people "family" is a greater experience than just having parents. Showing that he realized he was missing out on a lot of things rather than just a few makes the emotional impact of the scene stronger.

[@ghostlywitch87]

It was never truly said what dumbledores desire was, he said it was socks but I believe his true desire was to change the course of events that killed his sister

[@sw4194]

I always had a question that what happened to the other Potters... I mean, they were ancient wizard lineage tracong back to the Peverells, so they must have branched out family tree, like the Blacks. Atleast James's parents, cousins, if not the older generations...

[@fruitfulconnoisseur]

Another difference in the wizard's chess they mentioned you forgot that when one chess piece fights another it doesn't beat them they have to fight to determine which piece wins

[@michelleweintraub945]

Movies sometimes have to simplify things because they don’t have the time needed to create deeper emotional content. A writer is able to create deeper content because they can make a book as long as they want and also it’s easier to put things in words than to create a scene in a movie. I think the movies were adapted very well, I also have the advantage of seeing the movies first and reading the books second. But even after reading the books, I still think the movies were done very well. There are even things that I like better in the movies and then there are things that I feel that they should have kept it the way it was in the book. In the end, it is a wonderful story that is timeless.

[@phyllcar]

I constantly kept telling my wife about the differences in the book during the movies. For me the books were more explanatory about different things happening to different people than the movies and sometimes it seemed as if a scene wasn’t completely clear without the knowledge of the books. To this day, I still enjoy reading the books opposed to watching the movies!

[@Neakco]

I always wondered why, when he sees the mirror again at the end of the book, he uses what Ron saw as his lie instead of what he had first seen.

[@jmw9904]

Snape and Quirrel are having a quarrel.

[@jf_kein_k8590]

If this series is ever remade (preferably as an animated series divided by seasons), then they should heed more to the characters as they were in the books. (Or take ideas from the fandom to chage the story completely. Like the Slytherin Champion change for an idea)

[@Powermaster14]

There was a deleted scene that they were in the great hall harry just stares at the fireplace thinking wearing the jumper that ron's mon made him and tried to stop him thinking about it

[@stephengrenleski1972]

They probably didn't include everyone Harry saw in the Mirror because if the viewer never read the book, they wouldn't have understood who all the extra people were beyond Harry's father and mother.

[@erictayet]

When I'm reading and forming mental picture, yes whole family makes more sense. But for movie goers who has never read the book, it's more impactful to the audience to only see Harry's dead parents.

[@riogrande5761]

Changes are always an issue with books vs. movie.

[@2muchcoffee]

Socks remind me of Dobby Dumbledore probably saw it coming

[@troglodyte8791]

more so how did Harry know it were his parents? the dursleys did not talk about them and had no pictures or anything about his parents

[@hamitcampos4989]

The ron seen is on DVD 2 in the deleted seens. they did film it.

[@RoboCario]

Yea dinner is anouther word us brits use instead of lunch. But we say lunch as well, both words meaning the same thing. They get used interchangebly. But we always say Christmas dinner, not Christmas lunch. I think maybe because its much more of a bigger meal saying Christmas dinner makes more sense? Lunch just sounds like a small meal like a sandwich or something... And if your wondering about the other meal of the day since dinner is used as the same thing as lunch. It actually gets called Tea, or tea time. And no it doesn't necessarily mean theres lots of tea being drunk XD. Ita littrally just the 3rd meal of the day tea time. But somwhat confusingly tea , somtimes gets called dinner too. I think maybe it just describes a big meal in general. Cos ive used the word for both lunch and tea time. I can see how its confusing to people who not brought uo here, but makes sense to me XD. But either way Christmas dinner is lunch time. Normally anyway.

[@phosphorus4]

Wait what about supper?

[@RoboCario]

@phosphorus4 I forgot that, thats the 4th meal of the day

[@davidh9844]

Hey, there is so much incorporated into the books, you could never film it all. The cutting was done wisely. If you or the kids want to know more after seeing the film, READ! They are wonderful.

[@JennyShull]

Too bad the Harry Potter Characters don’t know what the readers and viewers know. To me what makes the Harry Potter books and movies sad: The characters are trapped in an endless loop. Doomed to re peat the story over and over again from start to end. With no memories of what is going to happen to them. Whenever someone reads the books and watches the movies. When the characters are not being use they are trapped in a dark, endless, void waiting to be used by someone.

[@hana-jq3uh]

Please tell me What did dumbledore saw? I don't remember reading about it

[@stuartlivingstone1265]

Funny how the American version differs from the uk one's..

[@danielledewitt1]

I have the uk version of the books and nothing is different.

[@janelleramler6440]

Only difference is the name in the title of the first book. Philosopher vs sorcerer

[@nager1997]

@@janelleramler6440 there is more than that. The American version of the books changes words and spelling. Plus some phrases are Americanised. But otherwise the story is exactly the same just more American in tone

[@janelleramler6440]

@ oh that’s weird. I didn’t know that. I read the philosopher’s stone and was under the impression that was the only change.

[@nager1997]

@@janelleramler6440 like for example a cricket bat becomes a baseball bat. A jumper a sweater. Woollen vs woolen Towards vs toward. Realize vs realise. Or how in the uk version of the first book during a moment at Hagrids, he gives the trio rock cakes to eat whereas in the American version of that moment he gives them rock cakes and a description of what they are is added but only in the American one. So that’s really the gist of things.

[@quantemwensday]

10:20 it has WHAT on it

[@kitkat3548]

P - Percy))

[@quantemwensday]

@@kitkat3548 is that how that word is spelled? well i gotta go take a percy I can't hold it in any longer if I do I'll just percy myself

[@kitkat3548]

@@quantemwensday if the spelling is the only thing you can nag about, go on))

[@quantemwensday]

@@kitkat3548 you don't have to get all percy about it Mr percy pants wasn't nagging on or about anything you're probably being all percy because you've been holding it all in for to long Mr percy pants

[@danielledewitt1]

@@quantemwensdayYes Percy is spelt that way.

[@janrudnicki6111]

Very good

[@elwoodbrown2431]

So are there multiple versions of harry potter books. talking chess parts? i read them. never read that

[@danielledewitt1]

Then you never read them.

[@elwoodbrown2431]

@@danielledewitt1 i have. it only says they move.

[@danielledewitt1]

@@elwoodbrown2431 Talking chess pieces is in the books.

[@kristineweber8084]

Sometimes you have to read a book multiple times to fully catch all the interesting bits. Our minds skim the text because there's so much to take in. Now I'm going to go back to the first one to look for the talking chess pieces!

[@elwoodbrown2431]

Giiibbbay

[@GaryTongue-zn5di]

Erised is Desire spelt backwards.

[@factorfantasyweekly]

Why did I never notice that before? 😂 Now that you say it, it seems so obvious…

[@Armedus]

🤯

[@toodlescae]

​@@factorfantasyweeklyThe inscription on the frame read backwards says: I show not your face but your heart's desire.

[@factorfantasyweekly]

😮

[@frankhooper7871]

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