Is Roon OP Now? | Bonus Episode | The Command Zone | Magic: The Gathering Commander / EDH

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Show Notes:
The new rule change to fix commander death triggers has had an interesting ripple effect on the power of one specific legendary creature: Roon of the Hidden Realm. In this quick bonus episode, we discuss what happened, just how much stronger the flickering rhino now is, and what you need to watch out for when playing against him.
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[@RobertH3]

SQUEE, THE IMMORTAL DOESN'T FEAR ROON'S SILLY NEW SUPERPOWER!!

[@cc_rex5017]

He's the most superior of all Commanders out there!

[@psy_p]

And no one fears squee.

[@RobertH3]

@@psy_p My Squee voltron deck has gotten some "oh no!"'s from my playgroup. One-shotted people several times. And once gloriously had the table dominated turn three... Ignore the fact that my position wasn't from Squee and was mostly luck. Irrelevant!

[@luisarturo3860]

Awol

[@ry7hym]

mwuhahaga

[@attackkataka6599]

MURPH! you guys should include more behind the scenes command zone crew people

[@austin9578]

100%

[@vendusmortem1433]

Nice to see Murph. Like seeing the crew when the can get in the seat!

[@michaelc.4724]

Murph seems super cool he was really knowledgeable and eloquent.

[@vasvary5013]

Murph was very well spoken and quite knowledgeable, would like to see him return

[@theearwyrm6105]

Murph! Definitely need more Murph! Maybe on an episode of Game Knights?

[@lalinreynasanchez8976]

TOTALLY! Got nothing against Jimmy but It was cool to see someone else from The Command Zone team + finally give a face to the legendary Murph.

[@andrewsparkes8829]

I'm surprised they didn't think to do an all-podcast version of GK during the lockdown. It'd have cut down on the number of people in the room, since the same production people would have been the guests playing, and wouldn't have required flying new people in.

[@skelten454]

Yes! Maybe an extra/bonus "game afternoon" with all the people from the production and there could be more than one game/episode to include everyone.

[@ykl1277]

Or a game squires episode where people who work on the show but are not game knights themselves play (I think squires are people that basically helps the knight to do daily things, right? Squires. Attend me. Roger that.)

[@ValatY]

Ok, I seriously can't pinpoint why, but the way Murph talks seriously relaxes me so much

[@DigiBossBattle]

Dude same

[@Zaeylo]

It definitely makes Roon more powerful but also now Roons going to be one of those commanders that are removal magnets, people dont like having their commanders clocked out. P.s.They also just spoiled a new end turn spell for M21.

[@0220cj]

Couldn't roon do this already before the rules change? And the commander would stay in exile because the opponent chose the temp exile rather than the replacement effect?

[@d-m-n]

@@0220cj under the old rules you would always choose the replacement effect for it to go to the commandzone, as roon would bring it back from there or you could recast it in case of a stifle. Now you have to take a risk as under the new rules roon doesn't recongnize the card as the one it exiled if you move it to the commandzone so it only brings it back if you leave it in exile.

[@MyYouTube30335]

@@0220cj You would put your commander in the command zone, because roon/oblivion ring would return it to the battlefield from the CZ.

[@theunsuspectingbagel4373]

I see no spoiled cards? Lol

[@7250Glen]

@@0220cj in theory yes, but why would you ever not put your commander in the better zone (command zone) if the result was the same?

[@muroderepolho69]

Murph speaks really well bro, I enjoyed his presence

[@drongobrat6471]

Lucky for Josh, since he already has a Roon deck.

[@borosman720]

yeah

[@RobertH3]

I already had a Roon deck that tried to do these shenanigans... Stifle, Sundial, whole bit. Then I found out it didn't work... But now it does! Ahaha!

[@ComfyDents]

@@RobertH3 Classic Magic things... XD

[@RobertH3]

@@ComfyDents For me it is. I'm always doing strange things. My favorite deck is one that purely tries to accelerate the game (and make it more fun to a lesser extent) and doesn't try very hard to win. Lots of symmetrical buffs, stuff that makes it easier to kill each other, prevent searching the library, etc. Tempting Wurm is a super star in that deck. Wins more often than makes any sense, and usually gets second place. I call it "Hurry Up". Classic Magic.

[@oatmealbro6977]

Thank you for making this video! I tried explaining this change to a couple friends in my playgroup. But I felt like I didn't do it with enough clarity. Much appreciation!

[@pixelbomb97]

I think the plan of action here is obvious, EVERYONE NOW MUST PLAY SQUEE THE IMMORTAL DECKS

[@izmazix2148]

I just puked in my mouth a little

[@stellathelegend8799]

I already do, that and ashling are my go to decks for meme purposes

[@stellathelegend8799]

Can whoever liked my comment please tell me as I want to have a note, because you are the first person who liked my comment

[@reignfallen]

I love Squee. Also hoses Etrata! :D

[@RobertH3]

Been playing a Squee voltron deck since a little after Dominaria release... My time has now come! Ahaha!

[@themistocles5484]

Important note with day's undoing, if you cast it during your main phase after Roon exiles a commander, it will end your turn before your end step, allowing the delayed trigger to still resolve "at the beginning of the next end step" presumably at the end step of the following turn, the other "end the turn effects work because they can be done in response to the delayed trigger on the stack, functionally countering it.

[@apjapki]

Does it really work like that? I thought if it says "at the beggining of the next end step" and that step doesn't occur then it does not ever trigger.

[@TheFoxlover93]

@@apjapki Days Undoing is a sorcery, everything else is instant speed. If you have flash or something, you could get it to work. The reason being is cause with the trigger on the stack, if you end the turn, that trigger is still there. When you end, state based effects begin to clean the stack, hand size ect ect and so you clear the trigger like so. With Days Undoing, you don't get a chance to cast anything before you go to end of turn, not giving you a chance to put the trigger on and respond. If you end the turn and then end the turn however, I think that could work

[@simonkerstgens6888]

No the delayed trigger gets exiled from the stack and doesnt exist anymore. Therefor it is gone for good

[@dahuntre]

Is a delayed trigger on the stack until it triggers (at end of turn)? Or does it disappear until it triggers? That would seem to determine if it’s there to be exiled by day’s undoing or not

[@shataraterevar]

@@dahuntre errata says delayed triggers trigger still. Day's undoing doesn't exile them unless they are active on the stack already.

[@IrishAndAwkward]

Murph did awesome on camera. Great job man!

[@varied6902]

Me, as an Aminatou main: "Is this some sort of creature joke I'm too planeswalker to understand?"

[@shanemorris2900]

Aminatou I believe is a way more efficient blink commander. The only problems is you can’t activate its abilities multiple times per turn because you can untap Roon and there is access to different colors.

[@CodenameJD]

@@shanemorris2900 You can run Chain Veil,and Oath of Teferi is a slam dunk in Aminatou flicker

[@KillinTime2792]

Me, as a Prossh main: "ok back to the command zone, thanks for the free kobolds nerd."

[@nchomeier]

@@CodenameJD If you manage to go through the different hoops, then cast Teferi Temporal Archmage, and then cast Deepglow Skate. Ult teferi. Now Aminatou has ALL the blink shenanigans with Oath of Teferi and Chain Veil :D A very difficult setup but sooo much fun when it works! :D

[@NotYourAverageNothing]

Aminatou is completely different. She only flickers your stuff, and that stuff comes back immediately.

[@LPAngelsfight]

I would love a Game Knights Edition with only the staff of The Command Zone! Could maybe also better be done now during quarantine!

[@dragonmz5274]

The instant this happens in a playgroup the Roon player is going to die first every game

[@BigMosh]

DragonMZ I am a roon player and never again will I be able to play roon nor have fun 😂

[@AndelsHistory]

I mean.... i already play nevermore in my roon deck

[@afriendofafriend5766]

@@BigMosh Just don't do it.

[@BigMosh]

@@afriendofafriend5766 lol

[@coreyroberson4550]

This is actually a lot bigger than "one card" with Roon. Astral Slide, Astral Drift, Angel of Condemnation, Galepowder Mage, Long Road Home, Mistmeadow Witch, Mystifying Maze, Otherworldly Journey, Turn to Mist, Voyager Staff, etc can all be weaponized like this. And casting Ghostway or Eerie Interlude becomes more dangerous if anyone else is playing stifle effects.

[@justinscott1315]

Considering I almost got kicked out of my playgroup for using a [Emrakul, the Promised End], and then targeted exiling my friends feather on his turn and commanded him to leave it in exile, only for the entire playgroup to dissolve for the day in screaming anger; I'm confidant that this will not be abused in my playgroup, because permanently exiling a players commander is not fun or engaging in any way shape or form. I hope that perma-exiling a players commander will be etched into the unwritten rules of commander like mass land destruction.

[@PenguinTyper]

Murph did a great job in this episode. Would love to see him back again

[@diggerdog9205]

This is why I love your channel! I would never think of these interactions..

[@thedislikebutton3425]

i kidnapped your comment

[@ThymeWyatt]

my friends and I had never played with the "returns to the battlefield from command zone at the end of turn" side of roon. We'd always put our commander either into the command zone and call it good, or let it stay in exile to get the return if we assumed it was safe. Before, our roon player would use end-turn effects to lock out cards, so we always avoided that by just CZ'ing our commanders and never brought it back at the end of turn.

[@quido5801]

Cool to see Murph on screen. I like variety from time to time

[@michaelloftis2349]

Love the shorter bonus video, keep’m coming!

[@erikchupela7074]

This is an excellent broadcast of important information about the rules changes and repercussions.

[@paulmcclain642]

This video marks the last time that Roon will survive its first end step.

[@TheKidsDaaaaad]

Murph!!!!!!!! You did great man! Quite the natural!

[@fuckyougoogle5915]

Thanks for letting us know, hadn't considered this change would buff Roon in such a way. Good to know if I ever face a Roon deck

[@shilohartisan]

Angel of Condemnation Flickerwisp Mistmeadow Witch Astral Slide Astral Drift

[@mysticaloctopus8224]

This move is pretty telegraphed. Roon isn’t OP, he just has more rude things he can do now.

[@marpj6138]

Still an upgrade. Plus either you have a counterspell to counter the stifle or your opponent commander can "kill" any commander

[@EDHCoffee]

​@@marpj6138 Or you can just let Roon exile the commander and then put it back in the CZ. So sure, Roon can exile commanders for 2 colorless, but you can still kill Roon. Not broken and not a reason to run Roon if you didn't' like him before.

[@MANIFESTATIONofDORK]

@@EDHCoffee being able to pay 2 to get rid of a commander every turn is still powerful cause tax adds up fast

[@brianzadorozny4605]

I met Murph at a magicfest (pick up commander game where I was playing my jank tribal assassin Ramses Overdark deck). He happened to have a deck with the same commander. He played a weatherlight crew themed deck. Awesome dude and I think he did awesome in this mini segment. Relevant, well-reasoned comments and a good presence. Would love to see more of him in the future.

[@joshmurphy484]

I remember that! That was such a fun time. Thanks for the kind words!

[@WeirdSchizo]

5:05 I remember playing Riftsweeper a lot when Commander tucking was still a thing and they hadn't implemented the replacement effect rule for commanders yet. Because you couldn't be sure you'd have access to your commander throughout a match, decks had to be built to function without it.

[@jaredpeaslee3434]

Gotta love the bonus stuff!

[@Ranis555]

I have seen at least a dozen posts in my Facebook groups about building roon and flicker commanders since this went up. The command zone effect is real.

[@alanbrito4139]

Hi Joshes, where this is a buff to Roon, it's a HUGE set back to: Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Kytheon, Hero of Akros Liliana, Heretical Healer Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Nissa, Vastwood Seer These don't have "may exile". They are exiled if the condition is met (then returned as Planeswalkers) and you can Stifle the commander on their own trigger. The "Stifle maneuver" could also work with cards like Fiend Hunter, Palace Jailer, etc. on any deck with the right colours. Not only works for Roon.

[@Abobbinable]

I mean, aren't we at the spot that we were in years ago with Hinder or similar cards that tucked Commanders away? The rules committee directly changed the rules to ensure tucking no longer worked with commanders. I imagine we will see modifications to ensure this effect with Roon does not work with Commanders eventually, if history serves as an example.

[@timledestructeur3586]

@John Coolidge Astral Drift, Long Road Home, and Journey to Eternity are just 3 more examples. Flicker effects exist and they work just as well as Roon, just not from the command zone. I really dislike this part of the change. Tucking is actually back.

[@cojaadams]

@John Coolidge I doubt they'd ban Roon; it's 8+ mana spread across 2 or 3 turns to exile one commander. Blinking Perplexing Chimera would probably be more efficient, especially if you can ramp into getting it and Roon on the battlefield before everyone else's commander.

[@stephencarroll4681]

The issue is that they changed it for both graveyard and exile for some reason. They should've kept exile a replacement effect like bouncing, tucking, etc. The thing they wanted to work was "dies" triggers so I'm perplexed as to why they would open a whole new can of worms by throwing in exile for no benefit. Now we all have to hold our breath every time someone plays a Flickerwisp

[@skelten454]

I think this is something players can see coming, unlike Hinder which comes from out of the blue. (no pun intended)

[@TubbyBubbleLove42]

@@stephencarroll4681 I'm glad they did, now my Balthor the Defiled deck works like I wanted when I started Commander!

[@onlyRicky_x]

"Most decks a built around their Commander" *laughs in Seth, beeeeetter known as SaffronOlive*

[@caseywellington4761]

Sundial doesn't actually prevent the trigger that returns the creature, it only delays it. Because it says "the next end step" rather than "at the end of this turn" it will just trigger on the next player's end step.

[@diegopicchetto5250]

It does... You don't just "end the turn", you wait for the delay trigger to trigger and with it on the stack then you activate sundial. If you used it say on your main phase then you are correct, it would try to bring the creature back on the next possible end step.

[@Registeel1234]

You need to activate sundial in response to the delayed trigger for it to work

[@gysahlgemuse7208]

You activate the sundial when the delayed trigger goes on the stack. It doesn't trigger again after it gets exiled.

[@coreyroberson4550]

If you wait until the delayed trigger is put on the stack and then activate Sundial, it will remove the delayed trigger from the stack, and as it has already triggered, it will never trigger again. It says "the next end step" which is one specific end step, not the next and the one after that. Of course, if you activate Sundial before the trigger has hit the stack, you will just delay it, but that is the wrong way to use sundial. You're not trying to prevent the trigger from occurring - you're trying to prevent it from resolving.

[@nicholaswagner145]

Yeah so what you do instead is you end the turn once the trigger to return the creature is on the stack, so the trigger gets exiled. It then won't happen, but it already went on the stack so it won't happen the next turn.

[@hiebram]

I had a Roon deck that I took apart. Looks like I will be putting it back together.

[@pharmacistjudge]

The roon trick also works on Astral Slide/Drift.

[@gysahlgemuse7208]

Mistcaller

[@Snarkknight5]

You know, I've seen behind-the-camera crew have to fill in on-air before, and for it not being his forte, Murph did really well.

[@belladonnaRoot]

Gasp! Josh Murphy makes an appearance?!? Yay! As for Roon, I feel that's a conversation that must be had prior to shuffling up. There are worse effects out there, so not OP; but going up against Roon Stifle deck when you think you're going up against a Roon ETB deck is a recipe for someone shut out of a game; no fun for anyone. Just like I'd want to know if Prossh is running tutors and food chain, or just general sac value; I'm fine playing either way, but I want to know ahead of time if I'm facing a deck where I need to play conservative.

[@mtgtomescourer]

Good timing! I just ordered some cards to build this! Mostly to take down my buddy's Kinnan deck haha

[@skelten454]

Fun but be warned this will probably only work once in a playgroup.

[@JoshSuperNova]

Murph! Great to see him get some camera time!

[@johnwiersgalla3801]

a couple of the cards mentioned don't work. Days undoing is a sorcery. This trick only works if you end the turn while the delayed trigger is on the stack. Also , Nimble Obstructionist only targets triggered abilities you don't control.

[@noahhoffenberg6971]

Murphy you where amazing. Hope to see you and the other members of the command zone office (if that's what you would call it) on camera.

[@MrPinkpanzer]

This interaction is going to Roon many people's day.

[@keithhoward7523]

I play rift sweeper in my Yisan, the wandering bard. It interacts with imprint card well and allows for certain infinite loops to occur. I would also play it in blink heavy decks like Roon as a political tool.

[@kolicgames4750]

This just adds an additional trick to Roon, but honestly, there's multiple commanders that are just tap: destroy target creature and tap: steal target creature, not to mention Alara. I think the biggest takeaway is the same from the stats episode: put other things in your deck that do the same or similar thing as your commander. Have a backup plan. Run Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots.

[@undertheradar84]

MURPH! What a lovely chap, you all rock

[@gabriellecureux5528]

I honestly never wouldve thought of that

[@ElGeFe]

Riftsweeper on the card imprinted on a chrome mox is a turn 2 play I've done several times... So yes, I play Riftsweeper on my only commander deck I've had for the last 9 years.

[@danielslack9114]

I've seen a Riftsweeper in a Jarad/ hidden commander Hogaak deck a friend has.

[@MaxMckayful]

Bonus content? I mean, if you insist, I'm not going to stop you. I quite enjoyed having a lil' 10 minute mini-episode to watch this evening.

[@ph4n70md347h]

Liked for the Tiny Leaders plug! Murph's a good guy.

[@nchomeier]

MURPH!!!! Well done! :D More MURPH!!! :D Also I need to try this with my WUBRG blink deck (Golos (commander) and Roon + Yarok + Aminatou as hidden commanders)

[@PiroMunkie]

I mean... this isn't just Roon, but also applies to any Oblivion Ring-style effect. Not only that, but playing Stifle effects in general may be more useful now that Commanders hit those zones and people may be running their own trigger-based recursion.

[@gamma362]

definitely good information to have, and I think we may need more Murph in your videos in the future,

[@MaestroAlvis]

10:45 I mean... the social contract probably says something about not permanently exiling a commander.

[@raohell]

About 5 months ago, I disasembled my roon deck because It wasn't paying off in games about every time... Glad to see It might be getting some chance at this now

[@thedislikebutton3425]

i kidnapped your comment

[@raohell]

DUDE i saw It and thought It was a bug with youtube lol that's ok If you have the same opinion, feel free to rsrsrsrs

[@thedislikebutton3425]

@@raohell here I will return it

[@rosavigXD]

Murph has a Nice voice for a co-host

[@ctomsky]

Okay, so easy fix. Just make a special action, like morph, that lets you put your Commander into your Command Zone from anywhere at any time. That way you can let you it die and go to grave and then put it back into your Command Zone for free, or if it gets exiled, or shuffled, just put it back into the Command Zone. I guess the one downside to this would be that your opponents couldn't really gain co trol of your Commander because you could just 'unsummon' it back to your Command Zone, but lets be honest, we all hate it when our Commander gets stolen, or turned into a bug with Darksteel Mutation and we can't get rid of it.

[@TheAllForm]

You did great, Murph! I love bant, and roon, and shenanigans, so I'm very down with this.

[@Lyscian420]

Another good thing with rules change is that mutate targets no longer get exiled when your mutate commanders get popped.

[@kevinlachance669]

So I believe that once the commander is on the stack and the stack is affected that includes your commander you can put it into the command zone.

[@puppyton2793]

You can now also discontinuity in the new m21 for two mana when you blink on your turn

[@krvys7226]

wait, roon decks were not already using the stifle effects? keep in mind, these shenanigans still worked to fully exile other creatures as well, other then commanders. yes, this buffs it, but it was already strong beforehand

[@apjapki]

Well Roon has White so he already had access to permenant exile for non commanders that also use a card and don't tap your commander. However stifle effects do have multiple uses so yeah were good anyway.

[@screwthisin]

It is not just one card Josh! What about Astral Slide and Astral Drift. They both have the same delayed trigger.

[@remillad]

House rule: At the end of each turn, if your commander is in exile, you may move it to the command zone.

[@Trasgobardo]

"Pull from the Eternity" It's another thing that card recover your Commander.

[@kenny3gg483]

I was think about making roon for awhile now I may now that’s super cool

[@josephswan7254]

Day’s Undoing doesn’t work unless you give it flash. If the delayed trigger for Roon doesn’t happen on the turn that the ability was activated because you ended the turn before it could, then it will trigger at the beginning of the next turn’s end step.

[@nicholasbolas]

Roon was already a removal magnet already. This puts him into the bullseye. Actually it pays for every deck to pack enough Commander and Graveyard removal

[@MrEvan1932]

I remember a few years ago my friend had a Roon deck and it was the deck to beat

[@darksteelmenace595]

Did he play expensive cards or were your decks so bad?

[@ayumbhara]

I ran Riftsweeper in Roon before the tuck rule change (which is admittedly BM since it relied on opp not knowing they could redirect and get their commander back)

[@k2cr]

Whirlwind Denial is also a stifle effect btw

[@somethingsomethingelse7706]

In decks with white and green i put in an eldrazie with the activated ability of pay 1 g put target card from exile into that players graveyard create a 1/1 eldrazie scion with sacrifice add 1 to your mana pool. Its incredibly good poltical power as I can help anybody bring back some of the most dangerous cards in the game to answer threats

[@JuQmadrid]

Many people (such as me) didn't even know the flickers worked that way before.

[@bwahchannel9746]

that pyxis of pandemonium gonna be fun again

[@ruudvanlaarhoven5776]

Remember Nimble Obstructionist only counters your opponents' abilities, you can't counter your own Roon trigger with it

[@flamingwaffle55]

Wonderful thumbnail, thank you Ashlen

[@Duskraven377]

Seeing more scenarios where the Roon PLAYER gets exiled

[@James-vl2hh]

Nice, pretty useful information

[@MegaJoka100]

Day's undoing does not work in that scenario, since it is sorcery speed. The card would just come back in the next end step, since the delayed trigger wasn't countered.

[@monkeyman-mm8qc]

You forgot to add summary dismissal in the "stifle" effects. I know its slightly different because it exiles the abillity instead of countering but it has the same effect

[@Krazygalaxy1]

There is also summary Dismissal to "stifle" rune's ability

[@UnremarkableFleshbag]

I am guessing that Murph either meant that his friend's deck that would side out Stifle after game one was a Legacy deck, or that it was actually Trickbind being used, since Stifle is not a Modern legal card. While it has been printed in the Modern card frame, it has not yet been as part of a set that was Standard legal (since the Amonkhet Invocation printing also obviously didn't feed into Standard).

[@christopherlee2828]

I think more people didn't know about the replacement effect ruling than the permanent exiling. I play Sundial in my Cycle Zur deck. Use Astral Drift and just exile away. Iv'e never seen or heard about anyone using the command zone as a "fake exile" for a blink effect.

[@ogge277]

I find this funny. It just goes to show the depth of the game. There are a lot of interactions

[@JesperEjsing]

Murph was fantastic!

[@Dafins100]

Big fan of this episode! Murph is super cool

[@bahyurur6792]

I played these effects in Roon anyway since this strategy always worked on normal creatures to begin with. Basically playing Roon means you're running creatures with good etb's and ways to interact with your opponents stuff 🤷‍♂️ this "buff" is definitely interesting for sure though. Very cool

[@arjundilger7867]

Theres also a new legendary, Niambe esteemed speaker. She seem pretty good in a Roon deck.

[@pur3demon0wn]

Whirlwind Denial Also has a stifle effect, it counters both spells AND abilities unless the owner pays 4 mana for each. It counters every card/ability on the stack before it.

[@pur3demon0wn]

And it is onesided as it only effects opponent controlled spells and abilities.

[@cpt_ikesmire4489]

Doesn't Nimble Obstructionist only Stifle an opponent's ability?

[@JmLyan]

Yes. And Day's Undoing won't work without giving it flash either, as to stop roon's trigger with an end of turn effect, you have to use it during the end step to exile the trigger in response. If you don't, it will just trigger during the next player's end step instead.

[@goldenmunchkin3900]

@@JmLyan day's undoing causes the turn to go straight to the cleanup step so no end step triggers will trigger

[@shataraterevar]

@@goldenmunchkin3900 Not true actually. They state in the rules and even in the erratas for cards like Day's Undoing that delayed triggers trigger in that cleanup step.

[@dominicbehney4989]

@@shataraterevar that's not true :/ Triggers in the cleanup step only really happen when you are forced to discard down to hand size.

[@NotYourAverageNothing]

Days Undoing will only delay the delayed triggered ability until the end step of the next turn.

[@jacfac9969]

After the new time stop effect for m21 got announced, I’ve been wanting to make a commander deck that REALLY abuses the fact that is can skip end of turn effects and I think maybe roon could be the way to go.

[@chillypiplup2347]

Thank God I have a roon deck I just need to make some adjustments with the new rules

[@thomekk]

"pay {3} to turn the murph creature face up"... totally worth it. Love you murph :)

[@NaviTheMD]

Already changed my Roon deck, love to have a good way to get rid of trouble commanders

[@darksteelmenace595]

But then you play the trouble Commander and everyones trying to get rid of you/Roon ...

[@timdornaus]

love the spongebob inflatable muscle arms in the thumbnail

[@JSalamonTutoring]

I was pretty concerned about this change when i first read about it as two of the players in our playgroup have Roon decks, but after watching your commanders myth video, I think the fact that we don't summon our commanders as much as we think we do makes this much less of a big deal.