Is Russia Currently Winning the Economic War? | Bill Browder vs. Daniel Hannan

Are sanctions on Russia working? Massive economic sanctions were placed on Russia following Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Read more of our coverage here on Russia and the energy crisis here: capital.com/eu-price-cap-russ...
In this debate, financier and activist Bill Browder and former Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan go head-to-head on whether sanctions are working, whether the West should implement more sanctions, the long-term impact of sanctions on Russia’s economy, China’s place in the world and how the war might end.
Chapters:
00:00 - 00:53 - Is Russia Winning the Economic War?
00:53 - 01:50 - Who is Bill Browder?
01:50 - 02:26 - Who is Daniel Hannan?
02:26 - 02:53 - What questions will the debate cover?
02:53 - 04:19 - What does Bill Browder think of sanctions?
04:19 - 05:40 - What does Daniel Hannan think of sanctions?
05:40 - 07:25 - Should the West sanction Russia further?
07:25 - 11:36 - Innocent Until Proven Guilty?
11:36 - 17:59 - Are sanctions too tame??
17:59 - 21:58 - Who Is Winning the financial war?
21:58 - 29:37 - Can the West be independent from Russian energy?
29:37 - 33:12 - Has the war changed China's place in the world?
33:12 - 38:20 - When will there be peace in Ukraine?
38:20 - 39:03 - Subscribe to our channel!
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[@tortseyina1684]

I am confused that non on the two is conciouse of background material to this war

[@vardhaman2k]

Theyre aware,but their “job” is to pretend otherwise

[@frantad945]

I know from the past that Hannan is a good debater, but that's about it. He is able to change his opinion by 180° within a month just to win the argument of current debates and change his opinion again a year later. In my opinion, sanctions have always worked. In the case of Russia, sanctions that began in 2014 have limited Russia's ability to arm itself. Because at that time, Russia was planning a massive modernization of its armed forces. Then it had to reduce it, because the sanctions limited its financial and technological possibilities. That's why Russia now uses T72 tanks in combat and not modern tanks. Thanks to the sanctions.

[@HughFromAlice]

A stimulating debate! For me, the highlight is in the last 5 mins about how a senior group of FSB officers got 'fired' as they had locked themselves into a no win situation in the case of Putin implementing an invasion of Ukraine by eating all the money meant to suborn key Ukrainian officials and thus they were forced to tell the 'lesser evil' to their boss when he did what they thought he would never do ..... So they had to say that all was ready to go ahead! Believable! Poetic justice!

[@Funkywallot]

We just have to wait and pressure the pig stye in the Kreml a little longer.Then there eventually break out real mayhem by subordinates cutting corners and official leaders making irrepable mistakes by making enemies within the state blaming their subordinates. These people are always sacrificing their own.The Akilles heal of any autocratic state. Daniel Hannan said that the Kreml totally underestimated the joint reaction of the ´pleasure seeking hedonistic west´ and that would put the final nail in Putlers coffin and plans . How is he getting out of this one ?

[@ridethecurve55]

To embezzle is to be a Russian bureaucrat. Putin taught them all well, so it seems!

[@hmmcinerney]

Rotten from the top down.

[@rex30000]

It is normal for Westerners to live in a world of information fakes.. you like to invent fakes.. believe in these fakes.. to discuss these fakes.. this is the west.. It is ok..

[@Olaflokomjov]

Don't you need some kind of real disagreement for a debate? If I don't look at the video, I have no idea, who is talking.

[@kippsguitar6539]

It's a valid point

[@planetmikusha5898]

The first guest says sanctions are for punishment and deterrence. He leaves an obvious 3rd possibility which is impeding rearmament! Due to sanctions, Russia cannot replenish its stocks of high tech weapons which are heavily dependent on optics and semiconductors which Russia and it's allies China, N. Korea, and Iran cannot produce. Russia is unable to acquire or produce modern drones, so they have resorted to buying low quality Iranian drones. These drones fly low and just over 100 miles per hour. For an anti-aircraft gun crew, these drones fly at the speed of a WWI Sopwith Camel making them nearly useless. Here are a couple of other examples: Russia's depleted missile stocks are forcing it to use S300 anti-aircraft missiles to hit land targets. Russia inability to build tanks has forced it to pull 1960s vintage T-62 tanks out of storage.

[@martinsampson1824]

Bill has my vote

[@AS-010o0]

Mine too 🖐

[@rossmurray6849]

I'm amused by the respect these two showed for each other, and suspect it's because they are British. Browder made a comment thanking Hannan for the name, 'Galtieri Principle', of an effect he had previously noticed. And Hannan flashed his eyebrows and smiled when Browder mentioned that markets always reach equilibriums. I doubt that similar could ever happen on an American TV neywork.

[@planetmikusha5898]

Europe, United States, Canada, Australia, and a handful of developed E. Asian democracies are the countries supporting Ukraine. In other words, the countries in which people want to emigrate to support Ukraine. That's quite telling!

[@kippsguitar6539]

Excellent stuff but really a debate should have 2 opposing sides to be a true debate , interesting non the less

[@augustine.o6190]

why not 3 opposing sides? or even 4 maybe 5 is good. I will go for 6 sides. Are you satisfied?

[@Capitaltrading]

Thanks Kipps. They do come from very different places. Though they agree on some things, Daniel and Bill have very different views. Like all macro economics, there is nuance. It's rarely black and white. Thanks for your comment.

[@rex30000]

@@augustine.o6190 now there is censorship in the West, similar to the censorship of the Soviet Union.. no Western media will dare to grant freedom of speech to the Russian side.. it's sad, but it's true.. this is the infamous Western "cancellation culture".. therefore, you will always hear only one official Western point of view..

[@vardhaman2k]

How much will u guys lie?Lol.Kudos for taking it to the next level! There’s so much BS to be pinpointed that itd be a video by itself

[@nick_no1]

Apart from applauding both participants I'd like to compliment the host on the skillful leading of the debate.

[@Capitaltrading]

Thank you Nick. Appreciate your feedback!

[@Unknown-sh8kw]

Neverseen such debate on Iraq war, Syria war, Libya war, Afghanistan War ,,,,,,😂😂😂

[@leel69540]

All leaders of the world should start smoking pot...

[@chrisczarnik3439]

Bill Bowden is absolutely correct, the sanction should be harder. That other dude Hannan doesn’t know what he’s talking about. From Poland.

[@OM-df9lj]

Let me write here a message I received this morning from a Chinese: "Pirelli doubled capacity this year in China, mainly selling to Russia"

[@Capitaltrading]

Fair enough, but what was the capacity before this doubling?

[@OM-df9lj]

@@Capitaltrading If I remember well the numbers, the initial capacity was 5 million tyres per year. If one wants to know the actual, real numbers, should jump in a plane and go to China. My point was that we blame India for buying oil from Russia, but many Western companies are doing business with Russia, some of them even better than before. They just care of their a$$e$

[@looking5050]

Is this really a debate?

[@Nickademas1]

no, it's PR this idiot really thinks an ultimatum is what's missing in all this.

[@benbo7042]

The hardship in your country is worst than that of Russia. Doesn't this bother you?

[@mikejess04]

A “debate” where both sides agree with each other🤦‍♂️

[@rex30000]

do you want KZbin to block their channel? they cannot give the floor to the pro-Russian side.. youtube will block them.. you can go to Russian, African, Latin resources and discuss there.. and this is American Google!!! They are not allowed to have a different point of view here.. it is sad

[@patrickpetersen8962]

Good discussion. Not sure I know more about how the sanctions and Russia economy are doing, but excellent view points. I do know that the sanctions are effecting Russia's war production. Thank you.

[@Capitaltrading]

Thanks Patrick. We appreciate your feedback.

[@benbo7042]

Your country is in inflation and this is what should be bordering you instead of a country which thousands of miles away from you.

[@boknow5506]

@@benbo7042 ha china broke Russia broke you will be down to only having rocks to throw and OPEC will take over Russia so inflation funny

[@maegorbalerion]

War production in Russia is increasing

[@boknow5506]

@@maegorbalerion ha ha they can't build anything and it's not Russia fault but when USSR dismantle basically no one taught them it's why I call them spoon fed

[@nadege1102]

I am old enough to remember when the war started, economists were predicting the Russian economy would suffer but here we are, 8 months later. The UK is falling into the recession and the cost of oil is really high for most western countries.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

The western propagandists & failed prophets of doom are nowhere to be seen. They lied again, only this time their lies were exposed.

[@levelazn]

the west is run by lawyers. the east is run by engineers and scientist.

[@poornalingam6261]

True...usa is making a ton of money ...

[@boknow5506]

8 months soon all of Russia and Putin will be down to throwing rocks and not able to sell any oil as Russia stole from everyone and that oil to India and Iran now Russia has to answer OPEC and ruble is literally dog sh3t this idea of Russia joining or taking over is nonsense

[@boknow5506]

@@poornalingam6261 all of Russia GDP was oil to Europe that's by by and caused by Russia and Putin his mistake his oligarch system is by by

[@markfischer3626]

Somebody explain to me, an engineer with nearly 50 years of experience in manufacturing and technology in many industries how Russia can maintain an industrial economy if the present sanctions remain in place and are enforced. How will the Russians maintain, repair, and replace machines that are at the core of an industrial economy? They don't have access to parts or the technical expertise they previously relied on outsiders to provide. How will you maintain or repair something as simple as an automobile when it no longer operates. The days when backyard mechanics could make most repairs themselves especially if they had access to a machine shop are long past. They all rely on among other things complex computer modules specific to each model. Multiply that problem by tens of millions of machines of all kinds all over Russia.

[@fspa6663]

Crooks and liars selling a narrative that’s crumbling.

[@TheAlexandar711]

First of all, one of questions should be " are west's political aims righteous" and "what caused this situation" .

[@concernedrabbit9075]

Putin caused this.

[@TheAlexandar711]

@@concernedrabbit9075 Russia don't have right on its own national security issues? How pathetic you all are. For you, Russia is really just gas station. Keep on with this narrative. 👍👍👍👍

[@placeswelive5388]

"Children are being taken away from their parents"? And what, pray-tell, is the evidence of that?

[@rex30000]

this is a common information technology.. for many years, universal evil was molded from Russia.. fake poisoning of oppositionists, fake chemical weapons in Syria, etc. and so on.. now the Western media do not need any evidence.. you can write any nonsense you want.. about Russian soldiers raping old grandmothers, taking children away, taking chips out of washing machines and inserting these chips into rockets.. you can write anything!!! the Western man in the street believes everything and never demands proof !! and journalists never demand proof!!! if the journalists are still in the West..

[@petrasmiles1029]

It’s West , we just say whatever we want whenever we want and we call it facts. As opposed to Putin and China propaganda haha which just lies.

[@petesam1911]

Good point! Sanction all the Oligarch.

[@AS-010o0]

This woman has such a high pitch voice 😖 I have to lower my volume every time she speaks and then up the volume for the guys 🙃

[@roberthaines4221]

I've been a fan of Hannan for about a decade now, but I think he has a weakness of expressing too much certainty which can be troubling. One seldom hears him couch anything in relative terms. That may be innocuous when debating some issues, but when debating sanctions against Russia, I think it's ill-advised for him to be so adamant.

[@placeswelive5388]

Not having something is not the same as being independent from it. By Browder's definition the homeless are independent of housing and that's a good thing.

[@raymondmay2136]

Technology access is the most important.

[@kabulpaws3386]

Ok I pay 15 pound a day for gas this year, the sanction is hurting putin really bad for sure.

[@jasonbarima8779]

U can't force people pick side everyone have the right trade with a other country

[@jimsmithnyny8905]

Where are Indiar and Chinar ?

[@karimelghonemy]

I see no debate here, just 2 points of views on how much they hate Russia and want it to be like the west or just die The worst one since you started this kind of videos 🤝

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

Karim El Ghonemy, on point there; just another tirade of Russophobic slur by 2 tantrums-throwing Americans whose divergent views are so divorced from sensible average Americans

[@mongenjeff]

@@preachingflamesthepreacher3894 one of them is british - your opinion is moot, ivan

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@@mongenjeff your contribution to discussion subject is null and void, oliver twist🤣🤣🤣

[@thulsadoom544]

@@preachingflamesthepreacher3894 At least he made a contribution bubba

[@wahomeadvocate]

So who should put sanctions on america for invading iraq libya syria afgnistan

[@rex30000]

you don't understand anything.. this is different.. these are democratic bombs.. cities in these countries have been destroyed in the name of democracy.. and millions killed in the name of Western democracy.. it absolutely cannot be compared with Ukraine !! this is different..

[@rikibo861]

Ayant connu Poutine de près Mr Bill sait de quoi il parle et Mr Hannan est très bon aussi. Bravo à tous les deux.

[@planetmikusha5898]

Does anyone believe there can be an equal number of dead and wounded in modern combat? A 3:1 wounded to dead ratio would be more believable. And currently, the Ukrainian military is estimating 84, 000 dead Russians.

[@planetmikusha5898]

The US and UK guaranteed Ukraine's territorial integrity as signatories to the Budapest Memorandum. So Ukraine not being part of NATO doesn't let the US and UK off the hook.

[@michaelramsey7463]

👍🏾

[@rashmiranjanswain7547]

Your European wars are not India war,get this properly ,we have no interest on it,we look to our national interest ,if you small European countries put sanction on big like India,be ready for counter sanction also from India,all your trade will be closed to India ,think practically

[@matereo]

Yes it is..

[@MrLoftusjj3]

“The problem for the collective West is simply this: 80% of the world’s population has refused to join it in condemning, sanctioning or otherwise punishing Russia, with some very large countries (China, India) either supportive or neutral on the subject.”

[@antonkarlsson7664]

How interesting. I didn't know that the Chinese people, for example, had democratic elections and thus a say in the matter? Or maybe you don't talk about 80% of the worlds population, but rather 100% of the worlds fascists and communists.

[@rmdomainer9042]

What does the percentage of the world's population matter? What is more relevant is seeing what percentage of world's GDP are sanctioning Russia, or what percentage of the world's most innovative countries. Nobody cares who or what Eritrea sanctions, for example.

[@HeyHeyder]

It´s impossible to say that the russian economy does not is affected by the sanctions for the simple reason that the Kremlin has forbidden the divulgation of economic data.

[@poornalingam6261]

Keep believing your own shi*

[@lettucesalad3560]

Not really, bc if the economic data was the same or good, you know they'd be releasing it.

[@AS-010o0]

Right!? How do people still keep saying that sanctions don’t work or that Russian economy is resilient 🙄

[@rex30000]

tell us how we suffer in Russia.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJnHlGqCrNinY6s and then tell me how your country feels.. you have reached a very high standard of living.. after robbing Africa, Asia and latin America? how are you going to maintain a high standard of living? who are you going to rob today?

[@carinajames2008]

Distraction , Uk is falling

[@tipskulhiso6763]

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[@dianal3542]

Dan8el Hannan was so wrong in the past about Brexit, pretty much about every aspect of it. He is also wrong about Russian sanctions.

[@ek8286]

This man recently said in London Real "Why should WE do give him Donbass)))) WE)))) Also, he says China, US, BUT he says Putin, so funny

[@rossmurray6849]

I'd really like to see another debate by these two in about 4-6 months. The situation could look very different by then. Sanctions so far have managed to slash Russia's exports of gas but don't really start for oil for another month. Also, progress on the battlefield will slow down over winter but that gives Russia several months to bring recently conscripted troops to the from lines and have them prepare defensive lines.

[@prodigiii712]

Russian gdp has contracted by only 2.2 percent in 2022 and it’s expected to grow this year which means Russian economy will do better than British economy and EuroZone. The sanctions haven’t worked. Many powerful countries like India, Saudi Arabia, China and Brazil are helping Russia.

[@dimitriskouris7949]

Great debate! However, on one side I've noticed Mr. Browder's argument less convincing because it seems to me is rather emotionally charged because of what happened to his friend and therefore, it sounds to me more like a "revenge" approach rather than logical argument. On the other hand, Mr. Hannan's argument is way more realistic and I totally agree with him when he said two things: 1) sanctions never worked in the past imposed to other countries Iran, Iraq, Libya, Cuba etc. and 2) the people somewhere up in Kaliningrad or anywhere lese for that matter, they could care less if McDonalds leaves the country, Russia. And to add, personally, I don't believe you could threaten or impose any sanctions to someone that has something that you don't have, or you don't have enough of it and you desperately need it and which you can not find or replace it with something else either permanently or just for the time being. The current European as well as the global energy issues its the proof of just that, the cost of energy, on EU and in general the citizens globally as well as EU and global industries. That's my take!

[@lttan2867]

That guy Mr. Browder, are less convincining might be due to frustration and the fear of Putin.

[@dimitriskouris7949]

@@lttan2867 frustration? Yes maybe, but fear? No I don't think so.

[@himiehonor1196]

He lost shit loads of money, he is blinded by that loss not his “friend” Magnitsky who was a lowly lawyer that worked for him

[@Macbrother]

It's not about getting Russians to overthrow the regime; although that would be a nice bonus. It's simply about 1) not funding Russia's invasion, and 2) degrading Russia's ability to make war. Time will tell.

[@AS-010o0]

@@himiehonor1196 sure RuZki. At the end of the day I can get money back but not people.

[@abmuhumuza]

Self defeating panelists

[@harperwelch5147]

No.

[@jimroth2493]

Very american point of view, and a certain cynicism also. As european, it’s disturbing to listen that, sorry! But I agree with 1 : ‘Sanctions hurt the wrong people.’

[@VodeniZeka]

Sanctions are hurting the right people be sure of that, it's only that you are not on the right side

[@sharonhearne5014]

Browder is a Russian with a long-standing history in Russian and with that economy plus about Russian wars in the recent past. Russians are very supportive of Putin’s war policy and likely somewhat ignorant of total war details so why should they not pay some of the price of a war they support. Putin is power mad and cares little for the populace and the soldiers who are dying.

[@thulsadoom544]

Your not dying just paying more for fuel and food boo hoo

[@teijoylatalo255]

Great education to us common people. I`m happy to discover this new channel. And in November will the oil sanctions against ruski kick in from Europe. There is no oil tankers available to charter for russian oil overseas, although if putler would find byers elsewhere, and if they manage to find some few oil tankers, the western insurance companies Lloyds etc. will not insure them. putler is on his death spiral. slava Ukraine

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[@MrLoftusjj3]

😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣

[@himiehonor1196]

In fairness you did say you are common, can I suggest you enquire a bit further about Hermitage Capital and it’s dealings in Russia at the relevant times, and then carefully consider what the price of oil will be if Russian oil volumes are curtailed from the markets, make no mistake a barrel of oil will top $200 and then our current energy cum financial crisis will become something quite dark. Billy I am sure would agree, he does have a good nose for loot!

[@rex30000]

Teijo Ylatalo just don't forget that there is a trend towards stupid politicians in the Western world right now.. look at the fox trails or Scholz.. liberals and greens are everywhere.. these are people with low intelligence and they cannot calculate the results of their decisions even by two steps.. Russia will not sell oil to countries that accept these conditions (these are only Western countries with strange governments).. anyone with a brain understands that oil prices will soar in Europe and the United States.. Russia will not trade with countries that do not have a market economy and that are trying to set prices as the Soviet Union did.. P S: do you like Nazi Ukrainian slogans? what you said is the Ukrainian version of the Nazi slogan - Germany above all.. if you support Ukraine, you don't have to pull all their neo-Nazi slogans and swastikas to KZbin.. you can maintain their mode without showing these things..

[@dosa2990]

No oil tankers? 🤣🤣 You do know that their are non-western including Russian oil tankers, right? Western insurance companies 🥹 loss of monopoly as for the last 8 months Russians have used sovergin state gareentees and promoted Asian insurances to the extent that they are now the largest oil supplier of countries as large as India, supplying without any western shipping insurance involvement. Keep dreaming that you have the monopoly on the rest of the world

[@carinajames2008]

One man , one nation , one spirit , ❤️🇷🇺

[@Aussie-Mocha]

= old imperial regime.

[@placeswelive5388]

For how long is he going to keep calling Magnitsky his "lawyer"?

[@rex30000]

he will always defend himself using the name of this lawyer.. he stole billions in Russia.. he's a thief.. and in order not to go to jail, he will pose as a victim of Putin..

[@concernedrabbit9075]

Why would he stop? There will always be new people hearing his story so he has to repeat the important details.

[@galanis38]

The sanctions are not working and are not going to work no matter how much they are upped. First of all, most of the non-Western world is refusing to participate in the sanctions and will continue to do so, and that includes some major powers like China, India, and others. Russia has the self-sufficiency in resources to withstand the sanctions, and continues to do business with the so-called Global South to mutual economic benefit -- the ruble has been increasing rather than decreasing in value since the sanctions were imposed. All the while these sanctions are seriously damaging the very countries that have imposed them -- Europe most of all, but also the US and a (few) other allies that have signed on to them.

[@Aussie-Mocha]

Well…. I follow a few Russians who acknowledge that there are plenty of signs that their economy is going to suffer long term far worse then they did in 1990s. And what Daniel said right at the end is a very accurate testament to why Putin hasn’t got long and why we know so so much about what Russia is up to . Everything else is just noise. Have Faith in the Armed Forces of Ukraine 😊 Be patient, the weapons are coming. They will win 💪🏻🇺🇦❤️‍🔥🇺🇦

[@stefvb2032]

Oh..that’s cute…

[@seshadri.j]

Russia has 1/3 rd of world's resources and you are dreaming about sanctioning them or yourselves ?

[@placeswelive5388]

Nothing is in Ukraine's hands. Any settlement will be negotiated between Russia and the US. The Kiev government will be told what to accept and how to spin it for domestic consumption.

[@agffans5725]

Nothing is in Russia's hand. Any settlement will be finalized by NATO and the EU and Russia will then be told what is going to happen.

[@michaziomek]

That's bull. Even without help from the west russia would not be able to hold Ukraine. Partisan warfare is something Ukrainians are really good. The sooner russians overthrow putin and his oligarchs the better for the russian people.

[@placeswelive5388]

@@michaziomek You are obviously unfamiliar with the history of resistance of the Ukrainian nationalists in the immediate aftermath of WW2. They sure hung in there for quite a while but the Soviets them killed off, one by one, in the end.

[@placeswelive5388]

@@agffans5725 That's funny. What's the evidence of that? Is it Putin's 'you can trade with us or you can go fuck yourself' attitude in the past 8 months?

[@tipskulhiso6763]

Dude!! Do you know the countries called Japan? They fight with the US in WWII. What did the US do to them? They seem to be doing ok now

[@ericwillis777]

Daniel Hannan might be well educated and a good politician but sadly, he is not very bright,. He can buy all he want's from Russia but I am not going to, and I don't want my country or governent to either. His apologies for Russia and his feigned concern for the victims of Russian agression ae disgracefull. For goodness sake, if you are one of his constituents, don't vote for him.

[@gainafunction1538]

Russia is winning and the people every where are glad,

[@brucewayneissober6915]

Maybe the US and EU shouldn't have set up the coup in 2014. I'm with Putin on this.

[@phillipgoodwin7776]

Put bill in charge of sanctions his a business man he knows how to soak up Putins money 👌

[@trevorsomers8344]

Yes they are working. They take months to take full effect. The 7th and 8th set haven't really kicked in yet! Far to early for this discussion!

[@mattschroeder3432]

she gorgeous

[@gogrape9716]

What a stupid question....🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fredsmith2277]

sanctions are good, russia will suffer for decades, it is stupid not to sanction russia ???

[@TT3TT3]

Londongrad

[@abubakareadejimiadefulu1933]

Just stop lie to people your government support party government in South Africa

[@kmodha01]

Both men are stuck with their ideas, sanctions or war with weapon, and 8 months later none of the two has worker. So, instead of continue promoting either, why not think outside of the box and propose negotiations??? Neither, debates of even the moderator, did not bring this question in the debate??

[@thulsadoom544]

You can't think out the box dealing with a one dimensional dictator like Putin..he doesn't do negotiations or diplomacy ...your pretty dim.

[@brucewayneissober6915]

LOL so this is just a discussion between 2 warmongers that ignore the fact that the US and EU started the war because Ukraine didn't take the EU deal.

[@dotulloch]

Propaganda debate

[@robertmcbeth5864]

Of course they are

[@kevinhayes7830]

Like a conservative cares about ordinary people 😂😂😂

[@BurntheKremlin966]

Putin lost the day he decide to start a war against Ukraine!🧠👈

[@andrewparry7528]

Shutting down Russian oil production for the next 20 years which is happening. Who benefits? Oil is money is power is control is war. Without oil we can feed about 1 billion on this planet. You do the maths. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 and thanks 🇺🇸

[@rex30000]

you say thank you to the USA very early.. the US plans a slow long war in Europe.. America will provide as many weapons as it needs for an ongoing war.. while there is a war in Europe, European capital and European producers are moving to America.. america is thinking about its economy.. therefore, you will say thank you to the USA in a year or two.. when only ruins will remain of Ukraine..

[@andrewparry7528]

@@rex30000 Ukraine is in ruins because of Russians and there is no alternative. If Ukrainians stop fighting they will be dead or Russian and they loose their land forever. Ukrainians are rightfully glad the USA is helping. So am I Could they, all of us do more, yes. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@rex30000]

@@andrewparry7528 you're a very stupid person... in the Ukrainian army, one third of the soldiers are ethnic Russians.. in the Russian army, a third of the soldiers are ethnic Ukrainians.. this is not a war between Russians and Ukrainians.. this is a civil war.. between pro-Russian and pro-American.. between the Slavs and the Anglo-Saxons and their colonies..

[@andrewparry7528]

@@rex30000 no need for abuse mate. I've degrees etc. Point is its a war and it's about territory and nothing to do with ethnicity. That's racist and I don't do that. What do you suggest doing?

[@rex30000]

@@andrewparry7528 I still insist on my formulation of the description of your cognitive abilities.. And I can explain.. despite the fact that the armies of Ukraine and Russia have very similar ethnic composition, you call it racism.. agree that this is nonsense.. and if we consider your thesis about the territories, we will see very interesting things.. Crimea, Donbass, Kherson, Odessa.. these are historical Russian lands.. for example, Crimea and Donbass have nothing to do with Ukraine at all.. these lands were part of Ukraine only because the Communists forcibly transferred these lands to Ukraine in order to dilute the Ukrainian peasant population with the Russian urban proletariat.. that's how they built the Soviet Union.. but they didn't ask the Russian population.. they gave people away by force.. do you support the Communists? this is strange.. but I think that the West is primarily Russophobic territory.. Therefore, they are ready to support communists, Ukrainian Nazis, Satanists, Ananists.. anyone.. if only it would be to the detriment of Russia.. therefore, this is exactly what RACISM is.

[@truthplease4868]

To all the you tube economic genius’s out there --- simple solution- CONVERT your life savings if not borrow on the strength of your hunch- and buy RUSSIAN Ruble- There you are !!!!!! ignore the £and the us $ and the €-

[@Kavala76]

Selective and simplistic narratives from two hypocrites.

[@oddvardmyrnes9040]

Bill Browder is emotionally attached. He wants revenge. Not a man you should listen to in times like this!

[@lettucesalad3560]

It sounds like you're emotionally vested against Browder, so we have to dismiss your comment as well.

[@oddvardmyrnes9040]

@@lettucesalad3560 .. You make no sense. It is like asking a judge to ignore the jury because they are repulsed by the accused.

[@lettucesalad3560]

@@oddvardmyrnes9040 ya, but according to your logic, no victims should demand recourse, bc they're emotionally invested. Mr. Browder seems calm, systematic and knowledgeable, and actually trying to find a reasonable way to limit Putin's nonsense. Putin is an immoral and vile being, everyone of us should have a visceral reaction and demand Putin being isolated and removed from power. If countries had taken Putin's lawlessness seriously 10 years ago, he probably wouldn't be invading Ukraine now.

[@oddvardmyrnes9040]

@@lettucesalad3560 .. Read up on Bill Browder. Part of the 'Chicago 7' tasked with seizing control of Russia's natural assets through George H.W. Bush CIA plot 'Project Hammer'. He is far from what you think he is.

[@lettucesalad3560]

@@oddvardmyrnes9040 You're worried about people being too emotionally invested, then you're promoting half-cocked conspiracy theories? Why don't you read about Sergei Magnitsky dying in a Russian jail with cancer. Which palace was Putin building when he did that I wonder? Where is Alexi Navalny? Or how about just anyone calling it a "war" instead of a "special operation". How many Russian men does Putin have to sacrifice before it's really a war? Why are Moscow riot police better equipped than Russian men dying in Ukraine? You must be mentally inept to even entertain the possibility that Kremlin propaganda is remotely plausible.

[@ishatpandey3516]

Mother russia 🪆

[@rayharth183]

Yes lol

[@aruproy8388]

Both are very frustrated guy....hahaha

[@thulsadoom544]

Putin I think is more frustrated he's heading for a bullet

[@aruproy8388]

@@thulsadoom544 ...not Putin you are most frustrated boss....who is heading bullet...forget Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq....US need battle ground to support their $ 800 billion dollar defense industry

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

The Russian Federation economy "as small as NewYork" is collapsing "big" European governments and the ($22 -33Trillion)American economy 🤣🤣🤣

[@Macbrother]

Who has collapsed?

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@@Macbrother do I've to dignify your hackney phrase with a response?

[@Macbrother]

@@preachingflamesthepreacher3894 What you are saying has zero basis in reality, but do as you wish, matters not.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@@Macbrother because you've got less than 1% reality comprehension capacity🤣🤣🤣

[@roilhead]

Seriously if you think that Russia is going to loose this war your opinion is not worth listerning to. Once winter hits all the water / power access to supplies will be cut off & Russia can drive their tanks across the fields not limited to the roads this is all over in a few weeks. To keep supplying arms to the Ukraine is harmng them needlessly.

[@PeterAcrat]

🤣

[@roilhead]

@@PeterAcrat Comical that you think that Russia will allow themselves to loose. Look how Russia showed the US how to finish a war in Syria. The US had been trying to get the job done for a year & a half & Russia has it under control in two months. The US doesn't win wars & this proxy war is no different. Let's play how many wars has the US won in the last 50 years. Is it one or is it two out of ten plus? If you know history you will also know that Russia basically won WW2 but I'm guessing that you are a mass media PR soon fed Yank that wouldn't have a clue about that.

[@teijoylatalo255]

What tanks ? oh yes, the ones that are in stock from 1917. The new ones has been donated to Ukraine by cowards and the rest have theyr turrets blown up in space. ( lots of orc scrap metal in space these days )

[@roilhead]

@@teijoylatalo255 You mean like the old planes & missiles that they used in Syria and showed the world that the US is not upto winning wars, that old technology? The US got schooled in Syria by Russia and the world witnessed it!

[@roilhead]

@@teijoylatalo255 How many wars has the US won in the last 50 years of war? From what I see they have to always leave in a hurry, running away like cowards.

[@placeswelive5388]

Russia's economy is the size of the economy of the state of New York which happens to include the world's largest center of finance, NYC? Somewhat. Or, one could say that Russia's economy is the size of that of Brazil, which would be a like-for-like comparison (both Russia and Brazil are BRICS, so it is reasonable to compare them to each other, not to the state that is home to the city -- there literally nothing like it -- global finance can't function without). Like everything else with Browder, this is propaganda.

[@xfactor6099]

Keep telling yourself that. Look in GDP PPP terms, Russia has the biggest economy in Europe.

[@thisisverryannoying]

Russia is winning on the battlefield too despite what western media is telling people. They are about to get 300k well trained soldiers which will be the end of Ukraine. Where as Ukraine has lost most of its experienced soldiers and is on its 7th mobilisation. Winter is on its way and without water and electricity things are not looking good for the Bandera fan boys

[@matsmcmats]

Well trained 😂

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

Daniel is lying for a living like Blinken again. Europe is losing, government changes in Europe is an indication of much suffering. In Russia 🇷🇺 life continues to move on like before the MO in Ukraine

[@DanHannanMEP]

If you say so, Ivan.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@@DanHannanMEP my name is not Ivan, Daniel. All the same I aint flustered by your cheeky sense of humour. But one thing I'll continue to do is to expose your Blinken-ilk lies each time you appear online to pedal them ...... with the Criminal News Network and Blinken already in the vanguard, the world has just had enough of this polluting narrative of lies. We can't risk having you join this cult, it'll be too much to bear! By the way, did you hear that last night over 150 mercenaries, mostly Americans, were wiped off the face of the earth by Russia 🇷🇺??? Seems USA and NATO haven't learnt a lesson from Syria 🤣🤣🤣

[@Aussie-Mocha]

Look up the 2023 Russian spending budget

[@Macbrother]

Yes, except that over 1.2 million of Russia's most wealthy and productive youth have fled since the invasion, and now hundreds of thousands of other productive youth have now been removed from the economy and are starving, freezing, and getting their heads blown of in trenches. If that's what you call "life as usual in Russia," sure.

[@vardhaman2k]

@@DanHannanMEP if speaking the truth makes us Ivan,call me one too.coz In the future when the truth is known and history is written you’ll be the ones called KAREN

[@erlinghaaland5716]

Bill brownder is a money laundering expert he should probably be advising his sophisticated client base than waste his time here

[@guillermoelenes7252]

How much is a gallon of gas ? how about a BTU of gas? Russia is self sufficient.

[@thulsadoom544]

Russia isn't self sufficient Einstein it's a filling station with a shite economy...stop listening to Putins lies he's screwed Russia for many decades

[@philthyrourke5384]

Browser is criminal

[@barrycoetzee36]

Fantastic interview well done Dan and Bill

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

The sanctions have destroyed America and failed on Russia 🇷🇺. America has lost Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 [their so touted strategic friend], they lost Africa, they lost much more.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@LEICESTER FROM ABOVE another prophet of doom prophesying about his terrible experience with stroke in his sad life. He reckons that his sad life of stroke should be everybody's case🤣🤣🤣 that's your case only Ted, bear it alone. I can only pray that you can also be happy in life

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

Russia 's economy is growing rapidly while America and West is rapidly declining. Sadly in 30/40yrs won't be around to see America wallowing in nostalgia over its lost glory

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@LEICESTER FROM ABOVE another westerner who still preaches the gospel of Blinken-ilk of lies to the enlightened world that now knows reality. Nato mercenaries, posing as Ukraine & led by their cheerleader USA, are suffering big casualties day and night in Ukraine at the hands of Russia. USA,Japan and Germany never win any war, they always lose & this one is no exception 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@LEICESTER FROM ABOVE I don't think Russia are winning or will win, only a fool who hopes their irreparable mental case is what every sane human suffers from would hope for a different result. Russia 🇷🇺 has systematically dismantled Ukraine and reduced them to a medieval society at the watch of "ex-mighty America and nato." Europe has been reduced to industrial revolution societies while a fool called Ted or Jack something is left embittered 🤣🤣🤣

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@LEICESTER FROM ABOVE keep dreaming and comforting yourself in own bitterness, dude Jack. When you finally wake up after wetting your blankets you'll be saddened like a petty thief to realise that the ex superpower America has lost its lustre & Europe has moved back to the era of Charles Dickens & Bismark; but Russia has continued to soar and soar economically, politically and socially against all western hope🤣🤣🤣

[@agffans5725]

You have not been looking at the recent figures I see. Russia's economy is growing smaller and will be hurting badly in 2023.

[@preachingflamesthepreacher3894]

@@agffans5725 In order to get Russian Federation statistics, I don't check with American falsehoods peddlers. The Americans always wallow in an illusion of success and false self-proclaimed title to Monopoly Of Technology

[@fronabulax63]

Browder was the biggest looter in Russia:-))

[@florinzuleam4843]

My dear, No offense..... but your voice it is like a woodpecker who knocking on my internal ear......