Is She Worth The Upgrade? | Lingsha CN Analysis

[@mrpokkee]

Reasoning for the post op/break rope: You can get break effect on ER rope, but not ER on break effect rope. CN went for the more optimized lightcone/relic set up to have more optimized stats, but post op/break rope is still viable 🤫👍

[@jonnevitu4979]

man, I love when theres an abyssal difference of how loud the intro is in comparison with the rest, totally did not killed my ears.

[@mckayzabriskie]

Same. Sweet small whispers and then a fucking atomic bomb of an intro.

[@likheetshetty]

TLDR: Meta perspective 1. If you have Firefly and haven't built Gallagher for some reason and facing issues with bosses like Kafka: Pull 2. Already have 2 solid sustains or don't have Firefly: Not Recommended

[@Galahad-j8u]

Also if you have E1 Firefly or plan to pull E1 Lingsha, Lingsha will outperform Gallagher significantly.

[@mrJones-ii7sh]

Her lightcone gives her debuff she's better then Gallagher on my acheron team aswell

[@LuizFernando-he8mc]

​@@mrJones-ii7sh lingsha debuffs are totally useless for acheron, gallagher at e0 already aplies 2 too, or just get aventurine that have good debuffs and will do good damage in acheron team + good sustain

[@kienquochuynh1106]

​@@mrJones-ii7sh What the f are you saying? 😂😂 Lingsha only gives 1 stack everytime she uses ult, while galla gives 2 with ult and enhance attack. Totally midsha

[@tommy757591]

Didn't play when gallager was a rate up so I never built him. I really want Firefly and even considering her e1s1 in the future. I'm really happy I got Lingsha. I tried her out in DU while I await weekly reset and she's awesome! Goodbye Bailu!

[@Lightning0803]

it is so weird that this video miss out on the ER break point. And yes, BE rope+natasha light cone enable 3 turn ulti without being hit, enable u to hit that 200% BE easier for f2p

[@juxil8835]

I thought about that but wouldn’t just going gallagher cone and getting break effect subtat on err rope still be better?

[@TheAnaz41745]

​​@@juxil8835Yeah, whichever you have can work, though Break rope has 8% higher BE than What is Real Just to note that using Post Op on Lingsha also comes with extra Outgoing Heal on Ult, while What is Real only offer self heal aside from the Break Effect. Either way, the goal is guaranteeing Lingsha 3 turns ult rotation

[@josearias719]

​@@juxil8835 You can gey more break effect that way, but speed is more important

[@blueraine21]

Post OP S5 >> WIR S5 You can get break effect on ERR but cant get ER on Break rope but Post OP also gives outgoing heal and you cant get that on rope.. Using Post OP S5 + Break rope also means that you only need SPD from substats while WIR S5 needed both BE and SPD to be the same..

[@SchifferThe2nd]

The way I look at sustain units now is that if they are able to contribute a bit more aside from sustaining. As long as they did more than sustain, whatever it may be, they are pretty worth it. Of course it depends on your team. Every sustain units are able to keep your team alive or barely.

[@peterbabicki8252]

Same. Fortunately she's looking to be the most offensive sustain to date. In her break team she contributes a lot of damage, to the point where she's essentially a sub DPS.

[@LucasGomes-ng2go]

​@peterbabicki8252 the problem is everywhere else. Aside from a single debuff from her ult, she does fucking nothing outside FF teams aside from one debbuf on ult

[@koko-hh2bq]

@@SchifferThe2nd This. I think nowadays, having the right sustain for a certain niche is arguably just as important as having the right support for that niche. Best example is with Firefly's team; Gallagher is a 4 star yet you would always run him over premium sustains like Fu Xuan ot Aventurine because of how much value he brings there.

[@bakajanai.]

Yeah, sp generation, team buffs/debuffs are more important than their personal damage.

[@Oyamada13]

Pokke: "She belongs in a Firefly team, specifically." Also Pokke: *clears PF with Himeko at full points*

[@peterbabicki8252]

She can be run with any break units in the regular break team, but if there aren't any fire weak enemies she does fall off pretty hard without Firefly.

[@LucasGomes-ng2go]

well yeah, the PF is catered towards Lingsha, of course she's gonna make clearing it easy

[@misora25chan]

I pulled for her and honestly she feels better than Gallagher offensively and the fact that she has a safety net heal is much more beneficial for me.

[@ampersan3]

If you have Post-Op at S5 you can run break effect rope as the LC's ERR is enough for a 3 turn ult.

[@Synchronizebud]

How about if I use skill every turn with lingsha? I play with e1 FF. Do S5 Post OP needed for her to use BE Rope?

[@oli201]

@@Synchronizebud Both skill and basic give the same amount of energy on Lingsha.

[@Synchronizebud]

@@oli201 damn i forgot her trace💀

[@paytience3932]

30 x 1.16 = 34.8 x 3 = 104.4 No it's not

[@gwterror]

​@@paytience3932you get 5 energy back from ult. With the 1.16 that's 5.8, which is the missing amount to get to the 110 of her ult

[@LL-rv7vj]

I watched the same video on Bilibili and if any of you somehow went for Luocha's light cone, it is her 2nd bis according to this video. All the buffs it gives are good, with atk%, energy regen on every attack including Fuyuan's depending on how many targets hit, and a team wide speed boost upon using ultimate. This lc could enable a 2 turn ultimate if there's enough enemies on the field. Understandable that Pokke didn't mention it, since most people didn't roll for it and if you don't already have it, you may as well just go for her own lc if you want a limited 5 star lc.

[@ishtarvaron4980]

Thanks I was just going to ask the question, I got this LC during the rerun and was wondering if it was okay on her as I wanted to replace Luocha. 👍

[@basedchannel9105]

I can't wait for the comments to age poorly since hoyo will probably shill tf out of lingsha with enemy lineups and newer characters that cater towards her in the upcoming patches (just like they always do).

[@Wheres_my_Dragonator]

But a Yunli boss has already been leaked who is immune to break? And iirc, Hoolay or someone else has multiple break bars, so super break falls off a bit as it does no damage while the boss isn't broken. Not a very good way shill break.

[@basedchannel9105]

@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Counter point Rappa and future summon characters have a better chance of catering towards her compared to other sustains we have now (with huo huo being an acceptation if they use energy). Also If tingyun does end up being a superbreak support lingsha will benefit greatly compared to other units.

[@basedchannel9105]

@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Also leaked gameplay showed lingsha is much more comfy against hoolay compared to gallagoat but take that with a grain of salt cause leakers are bad at the game lol.

[@blueraine21]

It will definitely happen 😆i came back to my previously watched vids to look at the comments again like E6 Sampo > E0 BS, E6 Lynx > E0 Huohuo and i cant help but laugh at all the poor ass thinking 4 stars can compete 😆give it 2-3 months max and look at the comment section of this video again 😆

[@blueraine21]

@@Wheres_my_Dragonator its very simple, just dont use Break team.. Bosses have certain weakness that favors an archetype like fast = DoT, multiple waves = FuA

[@babyplum2837]

Tldr: She is a upgrade

[@Cocxy69]

not worth it one

[@AryaSaputraBm-nq7nc]

thanks

[@JinWoo..]

But since she's a sustain and Gallagher is already super good, I would personally skip

[@hyunitsu5]

​@@JinWoo.. idk man, Gallagher can barely sustain anymore for me so he is only there for the debuff

[@frostyyy6823]

@@hyunitsu5ikr, people overhype him so much

[@blahblahblah3716]

For those who have E0 FF, wait for the last day of her banner where we can get the beta kit of the upcoming Harmony mc replacement and if that character is extremely sp positive pull for Lingsha. Or pull for Lingsha, E1 FF, and also Harmony mc replacement which will take quite a lot of pulls.

[@sashimi3478]

I am pretty sure she will be very sp positive. Which is part of the reason why they made Lingsha be sp neutral, the other part being they probably didn't want to potentially powercreep Aventurine out of follow-up teams even before his first rerun, because Fuyuan has some crazy uptime if you can use Lingsha's skill a lot (which Feixiao teams certainly don't allow). Also if the HMC replacement has 20% def shred on e1, it will be mega worth aiming for E1 for the entire FF team eventually (because not only that brings FF to exactly 100% shred, but also the rest of the team except the 4pc watchmaker user to like 85% shred with 4pc superbreak set if I'm not mistaken, which is diabolical considering how much damage Lingsha can already output), regardless of how sp positive HMC replacement is

[@dingusbigus9629]

​@@sashimi3478 fair arguement but im pretty sure there will be another contorversy because hmc themself is really sp positive as well. And keep in mind that there will be a new meta (summons) coming right after tingyuns patch, which can possibly powercreep the break meta.

[@raulmaltrain6893]

A second HMC would remove lingsha, not hmc. Boothill already runs no sustann since it can oneshot almost anything. A third support made for FF would put her on that same ballpark.

[@sashimi3478]

@@dingusbigus9629 I sincerely hope summon meta is not yet another addition to follow-up, it really gets on my nerves how hoyo doesn't even consider stopping for a moment to take care of some other archetypes (besides break, ofc). Like literally ever since 2.1 second half it's been follow up after break after follow up after break after follow up and you get the gist (the exception being Jiaoqiu but even he empowered Ratio's teams by a lot so you can argue he's also been a buff to FUA). And the next patch is likely gonna have yet another break support. I hope summon meta is something new, and older summoners like JY and Topaz (Lingsha?) can shine there too, not exclusive to new ones. But I guess if those got included it'd be hard to not make it into just another FUA sub-archetype...

[@Mr_AntiSocial]

@@raulmaltrain6893what if that 2nd HMC canceled out the superbreak from the first one?

[@xrossmark412]

Lingsha's main selling point for me is that Aoe cleanse and heal. If enemies ever get high spd and apply aoe CC or Dot frequently, Lingsha can solve that issue whereas Gallager has to spend skillpoints just like Natasha to cleanse.

[@bonkbonk98]

Vertical investment is not for newer players or players who like to collect characters. Acheron is already OP, but we still pulled JQ. FF is already OP, but we still pull Lingsha. To me, increasing the team DPS is much more fun than making more teams because I already have many

[@grigoryp.7366]

IMO hoyo screwed up, they should've made gallachad physical, because him already being fire makes lingsha look like a much smaller upgrade than she would've otherwise. Like how a future ting will be an upgrade over harmony mc just by the virtue of being fire and therefore playing into firefly's implant. Making gallachad physical also would've make him a bootyhill sustain, so both could've coexisted.

[@insertnamehere2022]

TL;DW: Skip Gallagher Pro Max if you already have an E6 Gallagher/2 limited sustains

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

I got Himeko 👍 (I can't take it anymore)

[@zakariamimouni279]

hey Himeko is also a Lingsha minus the healing lol

[@gamecampph]

Gepard. Cry

[@Fat_Rucker]

lost to E2 Welt, we ballin 😎

[@jellifygirl]

I got E2 bailu super early. A sign to save 😌🙏

[@blueraine21]

better than fking e7 yanqing

[@blindspotj]

she literally is so fun to use with firefly and her e1 is so juicy

[@someoneinasia]

sure but for most ppl lingsha E1 is not relatable, especially after feixiao and bobbin.

[@UltimatePollo3495]

​@@someoneinasiae1 is relatable tf f2p just need to plan their pulls out just like the f2p mr pokke recently reviewed did

[@zeply_kaiteki]

@@UltimatePollo3495 nah, i do not think pulling for E1 lingsha would be that relatable since in this case, going straight for e2 firefly with e0 lingsha would be better PLUS if not break teams, then her s1 > e1.

[@UltimatePollo3495]

@@zeply_kaiteki I am not talking what better for her but her e1 still relatable and obtainable for f2p

[@zeply_kaiteki]

@@UltimatePollo3495 obtainable yes, relatable not really is what im trying to tell you, it is not the same.

[@zakariamimouni279]

better Erudition character than Jing yuan, there I said it, sue me

[@peterbabicki8252]

Who isn't? Serval perhaps...

[@Marbeary]

I pulled Lingsha and tried MOC 12 and have Lingsha in Team 1 (FuA) and Gallagher (Break) in Team 2 manage to complete moc12 first time.

[@liv_zer]

Aventurine come next update for ur FuA team

[@manbearpigsereal]

Lingsha is my new pure fiction carry, the first Erubundance

[@Mr_DE_0395]

Damn that's crazy, I don't have either firefly, boothill, or Feixiao. Her best 3 carries that can work best with her, I don't have any, but I also don't have any premium sustain either. And getting her literally make me go from barely beating MoC 11 to be able to clear MoC 12 and all other 2 end game immediately.

[@ninthfriend3347]

Interesting that critical build Lingsha is not mentioned. It is viable and decent since her heals scales with atk. Thinking about it, you can think of her as an abundance version of Aventurine. So if your Aventurine is being occupied, Lingsha can take his spot for FUA teams like Feixiao.

[@akshayreddy4071]

Her multipliers are rlly bad, only works with crit in pf

[@ninthfriend3347]

@@akshayreddy4071 While it's not the same lvl of dps units, her ATK frequencies makes up for it. As said before, I think of her as an abundance version of Aventurine.

[@Amir-ry7pp]

luocha crit build too since he also scales of attack

[@UltimatePollo3495]

​@@Amir-ry7ppdifference is luocha isn't an erudition character disguised as an ambudence

[@Meckenn]

​@@akshayreddy4071just finished building her and she 3x my aventurine damge in follow up team.

[@kennethyoung7457]

Lot of cope in the comments Lingsha is total upgrade over Gallagher right now at E0S0 I don't see any reason to use Gallagher over Lingsha right now. Skill points are not an issue , the break efficiency is higher, the break dmg is higher, the healing is higher and she actually has room to grow whereas Gallagher is already as good as he is going to get.

[@markgruner5812]

The reason to use Gallagher over her is most people are clearing with zero issues with Gallagher already, a bit more damage isn't worth a shit ton of pulls if you already have E6 Gallagher. She's better but it's not a difference that is gonna make or break peoples accounts. Feels like the people that pulled for her are trying to justify wasting pulls on her by screaming from the rooftops that a 5 star that was made to replace a F2P friendly unit is better, holy shit, what a shocker.

[@kennethyoung7457]

@@markgruner5812 No character is going to make or break your account that makes no sense there is not one character in this game you absolutely need to pull for. You can safely invest into any character you want and clear the content. They might can't do it at E0S0 but E0S1 or E1S0 is more than enough to clear evertyhing bare minimum. I'm just saying Lingsha is definitely better than Gallagher and most peoples reasons for not pulling is simply but my current options are doing fine which is absolutely great you shouldn't be forced to pull or feel like you are screwed if you don't pull a character. I don't "waste" pulls I get who I want I'm telling people that are interested that she provides a lot of benefits over Gallagher if this is who they choose to get.

[@digitalmaijiin6236]

13:30 but aventurine pops tf off in aoe scenarios? -edit: timestamp

[@Synchronizebud]

You pull Lingsha to play with FF. Me pull Lingsha so Gallagher can play with Acheron... We're not the same 😌☕

[@Meckenn]

Brother lingsha is better for acheron sine her ult debuff even with lc. So lingsha acheron and keep gallagher to firefly

[@josearias719]

​@@MeckennLingsha is better for acheron, but lingsha is also better for firefly

[@thaxbax5359]

@@josearias719isn’t Gallagher better for acheron because he gives more debuffs?

[@Synchronizebud]

@@thaxbax5359 exactly my plan.. Lingsha ult is one debuff while Gallagher ult is two debuff(ult+EBA) for Acheron. But I'm flexible in team building depend on enemy lineup.

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

@@thaxbax5359yes. He can also use her LC for Acheron too (though his uptime will be worse).

[@bonsaix]

One thing that wasn’t really covered is how well she works with Feixiao, a very comparable unit to aventurine especially with her light cone or e1. Even without she’s very solid for her

[@illusica]

Wait I thought if you had a max dupe post-op conversations It meant that you can run a break effect rope? The video said not to run that light cone on her so is that false information?

[@STarte1941]

Yeah you can run s5 post op with break rope

[@ZeroTwo518]

I have e2 Firefly, is she worth pulling for me, my firefly does so much damage that I don't think she needs more

[@koko-hh2bq]

I use Lingsha with E2 Firefly. While she doesn't need it since she already kills everything, it feels really good to be able to use the excess SP that wouldv'e otherwise overcapped with Gallagher. Up to you whether it's worth replacing Gallagher.

[@Amuro_Tooru]

I have E2 FF and use my E1S1 lingsha with her and she is amazing. Her contribution in terms of own dmg are really really good.

[@PlsGiveMeLuckRNGesus]

My e2 firefull flyshine cleared MoC, AS, and PF with lingsha and have barely any noticable improvement compared to gallagher. like on MoC i was clearing 1 cycle -> 0 cycle. Pure fiction 40k max score (stays the same) Apocalyptic shadow (total score: 7000-> 7012) so if you're pulling for meta, i don't think e2 firefly needs her, she is way too broken already lol

[@Luk850]

I would say no, e2s1 ff is already getting 40k points in every endgame mode for me.

[@argentthunder2849]

@@PlsGiveMeLuckRNGesus yeah but lingsha is more versatile to place in other teams. she does fine with feixiao, does good in dot comps and complements acheron compared to gallagar that only really fits in sb

[@Renatus__]

Mr Pokke speaking slowly just doesnt feel right

[@AxlNat]

I'll just put Lingsha on my Firefly team, then put Gallagher into my other team

[@orion615]

The best abundance right now imo

[@unendingvoid]

I say tied with huohuo, but with E1 yeah, she's the best. So much content right now and will continue for 2.6 and 2.7 because of Rappa and Tingyun that will favour her heavily. She might have great synergy with 3.X units too

[@gxosz]

@@unendingvoidabsolutely not lol

[@unendingvoid]

@@gxosz absolutely not what?

[@thaxbax5359]

huohuo def better

[@a.p5193]

Fua team, break team. she even work with DoT team if you don't have huohuo too

[@KraizenFaraway]

GallaCHAD is already good enough at breaking legs BUT Lingsha is a Pokemon Trainer that could also break your legs.

[@peterbabicki8252]

My copium Himeko break team was only pulling 35,000 this PF. I got Lingsha, slotted her in at E0/S0 and cleared 40,000 with ease. I even went in with Hunt March in break gear afterwards and got 40,000 again.

[@anhtuancao4167]

Ah and in case u don’t know. Hold on before pulling. 5* tingyun will come soon and it’s said to be hmc s replacement

[@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048]

If there’s an Abundance LC that can give debuffs from attacks like Pearls, something like an Atk down, Lingsha will have great value in Acheron team since her whole kits are attacks and she can act so many times between herself and the summon

[@mrJones-ii7sh]

Her lightcone has one 😂

[@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048]

@@mrJones-ii7sh It’s tied to her Ult, which already has a debuff so it doesn’t add more stack for Acheron. If there’s another one that can also be applied by her Basic, Skill and FUA, she’ll be the fastest debuff applier among the Abundance units

[@markgruner5812]

I'm saving for 5 star Tingyun fuck expensive Gallagher.

[@JONtheULTIMATE]

Bunny for lingsha, Although that E1 do be lookin really tasty. . . Keeping in mind we literally have archer coming in next year trying not to pull to build teams is gonna be hard, at least for me.

[@zerospace101]

After Fexiao, I am saving everything for 3.x patches. 3.x will probably powercreep 2.0 in some sense like 2.x to 1.x with only 1 or 2 characters somehow bridging 2.x and 3.x like the previous 1.x and 2.x

[@Gonshaaa]

Truly one of the characters

[@InmateOmighty]

Copium huffers trying to say healing one teammate is better than healing the entire team

[@nikonFB1988]

If you need aoe healing every turn, especially on the FF team, you have other problems. Gallagher is more than enough if you don't have major skill issues

[@InmateOmighty]

@@nikonFB1988 I was touching myself when I wrote this comment

[@AlterAce]

​@@InmateOmightyHUH

[@Dogz271]

​@@nikonFB1988gallagher cant do shit if 3 team member got cc by enemy.

[@Elainyan]

Got e1 lingsha!! Now she's nihility erudition and abundance

[@RandomNeat]

lingsha's banner art has smoke that spells s - e in the top right, and when you see it in the windowed launcher the twitter X lines up with it.... coincidence? i think not, thus you must buy

[@xeali1]

there’s 1 thing gallagher does better then all abundance! and thats not having his healing reduced by Sam’s Second combustion phase since its just a flat number

[@TheVengeful0ne]

it still gets reduced it is just that his base nos are low since it is a flat value but he gets 75% outgoing healing bonus from break so tog with an outgoing heal chest that's 109.5% healing bonus and what sam does is reduce the healing bonus that he has so much of

[@ignisdracorex6433]

The problem i noticed is that the gap bewteen Preservation and Abundance units in terms of sustaining a team is insanely big. When i tested Lingsha in MoC 11 my units where one shot by the monkey. The healing Abundance characters like her and Huohuo do is good but it dosen't really matter if enemies can one tap you. We just have so many enemies/elites that do massive dmg. Abundance character alone simply isn't enough in order to solo sustain in my opinion and the devs need to come up with something otherwise Abundance becomes more and more obsolete.

[@hyunitsu5]

I mean if the enemy can one shot you then run preservation, but if they do alot of instances of low damage then preservation will be useless since your teams health will decline slowly until one last big aoe hit that kills everyone. Each scenario has its own solution that's why it's a turn based game

[@zakariamimouni279]

it's a general problem in HSR, shields are just better, it's why Gepard was a balanced character because he had shields locked behind ult, so you needed ERR rope and aggro on him to have ult uptime, Aventurine on the other hand just give shields by existing, which is just broken

@ignisdracorex6433 bro upgrade your level

[@farius8506]

@@hyunitsu5 Has there ever been a fight were Aventurine was not good enough to sustain? In comparison, I can probably remember hundreds of times where I had to reset because someone a healer let someone die to burst damage.

[@hyunitsu5]

@@farius8506 I don't have aventurine, I have fu xuan and based on her performance in previous apocalyptic shadows she can't sustain properly. Slowly chipping away at health and when reaching second phase the whole team dies. I don't have aventurine so I can't compare him myself

[@thecybervoid436]

Lingsha is more Comfortable than Gallagher because i use Lingsha on Adventurine boss and you dont need to save ult for healing/Dice roll and your characters wont get punished while Gallagher, you really need to save your ult for those dice roll and will get punished if you use your ult in first phase or second phase if you do it too early.

[@damien9683]

What about the rumor that 5 star Tingyun being a FIRE nihility BREAK unit might work with Lingsha??

[@Galahad-j8u]

My plan is to save for a 3.0 team. My current teams have been able to barely clear all endgame modes at E0S0. Knowing what happened to the DoT team, for me it is better to invest pulls on a new mechanic.

[@0shadowstar0]

Comparing E0 Lingsha vs E6 Gallagher when it's kinda more like: E0 -> E1 or E1 -> E2 FF vs replacing Gallagher Gallagher +S1 lingsha vs E0 lingsha Or any other upgrades could have gotten instead, when already have a Gallagher that's already performing very well. Just seems like an overkill to upgrade him over other things can do with the same amount of pulls. Ofc if just like lingsha, dont really need any more justifications than that to pull.

[@fullvoid6663]

Is the light cone Post-Op Conversation (+16% Energy Regen) viable? This allows me to use a break rope instead of ERR. Anyway E1 Lingsha + E2 Firefly gave me 40k points in PF (up from 32k with Huohuo). I'm happy.

[@STarte1941]

It is viable

[@ayulilengmian]

！！这个博主的视频解析我真的好喜欢，视频很好看，而且给的内容很容易了解。感谢pokke大哥给外网翻译！o(*￣▽￣*)ブ

[@GodMenC]

we barely talk about Luocha E1

[@yokuutsu9097]

128 views in 3 minutes better make my meal correctly

[@quockhanh5740]

comparing an e1 unit to a 4 star character. Truly a midsha moment.

[@hahaxd856]

Coping hard?

[@elynna2483]

Gallachad is DIABOLICALLY INSANE because he is suitable to be compared with Midsha moment

[@quockhanh5740]

@@hahaxd856 yeah have fun playing with your gallagher wannabe that can’t even do its job any better.

[@hahaxd856]

@@quockhanh5740 yeah im having fun with my e1 lingsha. Gallamid looks like shit

[@quockhanh5740]

@@hahaxd856 keep deluding yourself lil pup. Getting an eidolon for a sustain is already stupid enough; getting that just to surpass a free unit is even more stupid

[@Rohan_Yadav7]

What?! A 5star is better than a 4star?!! In my Gacha Game!!!? Say it ain't so

[@peterbabicki8252]

Meanwhile Herta...

[@Rohan_Yadav7]

@@peterbabicki8252 which 5star ice erudition are you comparing herta to?

[@peterbabicki8252]

@Rohan_Yadav7 forget about type, she's preferable to Argenti even when there are no Ice weak enemies _(in PF)_

[@Rohan_Yadav7]

@@peterbabicki8252 that's a shitty argenti build you got then. My f2p e0 4star lc argenti can 25k on auto even with off element

[@peterbabicki8252]

@@Rohan_Yadav7 I'd say that's a shitty Herta you have, because this PF she got 40,000 off element, on auto.

[@Sacred__]

She really just is Gallagher E7

[@justvibin7576]

20:53 Doesn't (high refine) Post-Op allow her to run a break effect rope instead of ER, aka it basically gives 64.8% BE making it better than the previously mentioned Galla LC?

[@juniorraya1023]

getting lingsha for supp ? cringe getting lingsha to carry? gigachad Just made a 1 cycle moc 12 with her as DPS and 40k with 3 cycles on PF ,crit lingsha is so fvking fun lmao Also if u know how to properly play the game, Lingsha is at least double value, if not , just skip her

[@juntizon7182]

I don’t have a single Gallagher so she’s a better upgrade than my E2 Natasha lolol

[@228Drake]

E0 Ruan Mei > E0 Firefly > E1/E2 FF > Anything > Lingsha

[@yoimiyasimp1]

Is it just me or is the old mrpokke better than the new deep voice pokke + 2x speed pokke

[@Doffel]

A lot of people hating and I am probably gonna get ratioed, but I think Lingsha is great especially e1. For those going full in on Super break, she is 100% worth it. I personally skipped for 4 banners including Feixiao and will continue skip until I can get another e2s1 (200 pulls each time I pull)

[@diegocoello3042]

I heard that she is a must pull because supposedly we are gonna be moving to a summon meta or aomething like that so i am torned in either to pull for her or not since i dont have adventurine and might want to pull for him 😅😅

[@kazukilolll7737]

post op not recommended? another fellow guidemaker said post op is very good on her, expecially at s5 cuz you can run BE rope.

[@sushiman9529]

i love how pre release people always cope and say the 4* is better and then when the 5* releases they are much better just like with jq happens every time

[@Luk850]

Did u even watch the video? She's a 7.5% upgrade to galager, most people would say that's a skip.

[@joaquinchua3348]

He literally said she doesn't have much value if u have E0 firefly and E6 Gala, she only gains value if ur gonna go for e1. My guy did not watch the video and started yapping. 😂

[@Luk850]

People weren't that far off with jq either. The only place he makes a notable difference is acheron in pf.

[@akshayreddy4071]

​@@joaquinchua3348Not to mention, if you are gonna go for that e1 firefly and lingsha, just get e2 firefly at thar point

[@kazukinowa]

​@@Luk850 Lmao Acheron with and without JQ is literally a completely different comp in every gamemode. Bro got misinfo'd 😭 He makes ALL the difference,

[@A-Minorrrrrrr]

Wait for aventurine to rerun skip her

[@vegitoblue6969]

post op can give 2 turn ult if she gets hit.

[@Rover-ghw]

preservation is better than the cure (abundance)

[@XMS1212X]

Ehhh I’ve clearing everything now doesn’t feel like I still need a second 5* healer other than my loucha.. yes 5* loucha still carries well

[@rere6845]

Yes.🗿

[@Irfan-gl3jm]

Screw healing boost! i made my lingsha as erudition dps super break dmg!!

[@AlterAce]

pulled her and I dont even play superbreak 😂 FUA comp + lingsha goes hard

[@negative2positve380]

Duh, she's a 5 star.

[@colonelcider8292]

I would pull but I wanted Topaz more

[@indyvidual3917]

Lingsha is just gender swapped Gallagher change my mind

[@tiredmexirican]

getting her LC for gallagher cuz hes hotter

[@TheOtherSideCh]

Real answer: waifu > beardy ossan

[@hxlydied]

did Pokke gain weight during his time in america

[@hipha5463]

So, it's skip for now as she is not much better than Gallagher

[@seow5872]

E0 lingsha = E6 gallagher E1+ or S1 lingsha > E6 gallagher

[@Luk850]

Isnt E6 gal with her s1 > than her at e0s1 tho?

[@negative2positve380]

​@@Luk850no

[@UltimatePollo3495]

​@@Luk850no

[@UltimatePollo3495]

E0 lingsha is better than e6 gallagher tf

[@peterbabicki8252]

Eh, my break team couldn't get past 35,000 in PF. All I did was swap out Gallagher for E0/S0 Lingsha in copium Relics and the team managed 40,000 with ease. She's an upgrade over E6 Gallagher even at E0/S0.

[@plang-plang5035]

Ah yes, nothing is more fun than looking the comments and replies go at war. Especially the copers🍿

[@mrJones-ii7sh]

Shes not abundance shes erudition 😂

[@alexcorbeij1041]

I'll be waiting for the summon meta. Then she will skyrocket in value and be the essential healer for that playstyle.

[@analoque2412]

Is She an Upgrade to Gallagher? YES, 100% Next Question: Is that far? Far enough for you to spend Premium Currency? Ehh.. not at all. Even as someone who is a Waifu Collector, FUA & Firefly Glazzer, I feel the "Upgrade" that Lingsha brought is a bit lacking.

[@YASUOMURAMASA]

8% upgrade LoL

[@tanoversechannel7343]

Chat, Lingsha or topass? Im f2p

[@YASUOMURAMASA]

For Firefly or FuA?

[@peterbabicki8252]

Depends on your account. They both have value in multiple teams, though if you already have E6 Gallagher then Topaz will probably be a better overall account investment.

[@tanoversechannel7343]

@@peterbabicki8252 thanks 👍 Im on 71 pity wml

[@228Drake]

Skip for 2.6 Rerans

[@timatoes]

nice haircut dude looks good

[@Stanky_Foot]

Ruan Mei impact

[@proteincannon]

ugh your intro is like 10x louder than your video. It's SUPER annoying

[@garoum9626]

Can someone explain to me why outgoing healing on chest piece is better than atk? From my point of view because her healing scale on atk she heal plenty without the outgoing healing chest and will do (I assume) more damage with the atk chest piece

[@devika2545]

Atk chest piece is good if your units have really high HP(5000+) or can heal in some way like Firefly. Outgoing healing boost is better for general use.

[@garoum9626]

​@@devika2545 yes I get that but I feel that even with atk chest piece she can fully heal m'y team, and compared to shields that overcap the max hp, I don't see why I would need more outgoing healing if she already bring the team to full hp with atk chest piece, plus she has a trace that give her outgoing healing based on her BE

[@garoum9626]

@@devika2545 Oh yeah I remember e1 FF doesn't use skill point so yeah I could see why outgoing healing could be better if lingsha cannot skill as much, thx

[@devika2545]

@@garoum9626 The trace has a limit. Also, if you're doing fine like that, then go ahead.

[@bem3760]

The trace has limit if you already maximized the trace with healing bonus chest, attack chest ain't do shit

[@someoneinasia]

if you have E2/E6 gallagher and want lingsha for the future summon meta, i'd suggest wait for her rerun in 3.1 or 3.2 when we get summon meta units. pulling her now for the sake of summon meta is gambling, it's possible hoyo will release another sustain like a shielder with summon FUA in 3.0 or 3.1. if they do that unit will likely be better than lingsha.

[@JorgeHenrique-mz8qy]

I only have HueHue as a limited sustain. Should i wait for Aventurine for my Fei team or pull for Lingsha for my E1 FF?

[@dashincorgi]

couldnt lingsha work with feixiao considering the number of FUA the bunny does, then at least you'd have some flexibility putting her into either team, there also seems to be the possibility of a summon meta soon, & lingsha would benefit if it's true

I'm pretty sure he's talking about Firefly ​@dashincorgi

[@hyunitsu5]

Lingsha is good for both and might be the new meta too with her summons, but aventurine is rerunning next patch too so it's up to you

[@euwingz]

i would think that you should consider diversifying your investment to have 1 of each limited abundance and preservation. as much as i like Lingsha, since you already have HuoHuo - i would suggest getting Adventurine

[@edelgardvonhreselverg9757]

@@hyunitsu5doesn’t the leaks for summons say that they can’t be buffed, healed or shielded.

[@edelgardvonhreselverg9757]

Tldw: she is an upgrade but a minor one.

[@Akaneeee..]

E1 Lingsha with her lightcone in 100 pull is so worth it

[@scopeyui240]

lingsha armpit on the thumbnail ahhhh

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

Thank you China i was debating going E2 for her. now i know to skip for future pulls or shorekeeper pulls

[@khanhtham1812]

Bunny

[@malificajones7674]

Got her at E2S1. No complaints at all. She's a massive upgrade on Gallagher, and works perfectly for Break and FuA teams.

[@edelgardvonhreselverg9757]

Wow, really an E2 limited character is better than a 4 star??? Geez that’s unbelievable

[@tswinteyru5812]

​@@edelgardvonhreselverg9757 In other news, water is wet!

[@malificajones7674]

@@edelgardvonhreselverg9757 Yep! She makes Gallagher look like a useless pos. I feel sorry for anyone forced to still use him. They must feel really bad. 😭

[@shariqueraza4409]

​@@malificajones7674 what is this Gallagher slander😅. Edit: guys the person above me has multiple e6s5 characters so don't listen to him and he is ultra biased on hating any 4 star probably because he wants to validate his spending habits

[@malificajones7674]

@@tswinteyru5812 Yeah, I hope you were able to pull for Lingsha too. It would really suck if you still had to use Gallagher.

[@Chapterhouse86]

Doesn't matter for me anyways. I lost the 50/50 again. That makes 8/10 50/50s lost since I started playing. Really makes me want to just say fuck it and quit. FGO gets mocked for it's terrible gacha system, but I have had a much easier time getting the characters I want in that game. Like, MUCH easier. Plus, multiple copies of characters only increase the damage numbers for their ultimate. FGO doesn't lock critical parts of a character's kit behind an eidolon paywall.

[@jmcMateo]

That sucks. I've won 4 50/50 in row. I would wanna be like fuck this if I lose every 50/50

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

It’s bc FGO has a much higher base rate, so it’s closer to feast or famine. People like consistency so many prefer the hoyo model.

[@Dizperze]

🗿

[@K1n3-yk4mg]

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