Is Sony Bravia Projector 8 Worth The Price? VPL-XW6100ES Review

[@valueelectronics9390]

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[@marvinabugov4579]

After 4 years of following numerous (50) review blogs about this hobby, is that “product reviewers” have more effectively educated the public about this rather “opaque” industry, and consumer standards are now much more “demanding” based on “real-time-FACTS”. I realize VE has been doing its projector shoutouts for a decade or two and are the pioneers of this genre. 👏👏👏👍👍👍 But that is only once or twice a year. Over the last few years, product reviews have - exploded - worldwide and occur on a daily basis. I’m not sure manufacturers and dealers were quite prepared for the longer-term impact from the legions of HT enthusiasts. What started off as yet another way to just market directly to targeted audiences has had the unintended consequence of that audience “talking-back” directly to the manufacturers and sometimes - not in terms they expected and with some unintended negative sales effects, I should think?Sony is one such case-in-point - in my very humble opinion. Clearly, it is now “listening” and making the necessary engineering adjustments to catch-up, for example, in its consumer line of projectors. That is good to see and a worthy long term benefit of this whole experience from a HT theatre hobbyists point-of-view. This industry is extremely competitive and you clearly can’t take your eye-off-the-ball for even a second, it seems. One wonders how much heart-burn medication industry execs must have to consume in a year? 😂😱

[@matta9316]

Great review and presentation!

[@jin5667]

Glad to see Sony is catching up. Already moved to NZ800 a few months ago. Hope next time they can come up with something even better

[@therealshanelee]

They've really stepped up.

[@sprint110]

How are you finding the newer NZ800 compared to nz8?

[@Myasinax]

The Sony also has full fade to black. You need to set Dynamic Control to Full instead of Limited

[@therealshanelee]

It's mentioned in the video.

[@Myasinax]

So you did!

[@guillaumeSONY]

When I was a kid one of my dream was to own a Sony Video projector at the time it was around 4000€ now that I have a job and could potentially buy one it's like 15-20k€ 😅

[@ChristianCL7]

you don't have to buy the latest and greatest! I have bought all my projectors at either half price or a third of the price. Just wait a couple of years, someone will sell you this exact projector in 2 years with 2000 hours on it for 6000 euro or less :) then you use it for a couple of years, and someone else gets it for 4000 euro.

[@sprint110]

I got one last month, and I absolutely love it! Since this is my first projector, I can’t really compare it to others, but I’m very impressed with its performance so far. I was initially torn between the NZ800 and the Sony 6100 but ultimately went with the Sony due to its better throw distance capabilities and slightly superior compatibility with the PS5.

[@pconyc]

What do you mean by "better throw distance capability"? Trying to figure out NZ800 vs this Sony too...thx for any input!

[@sprint110]

@@pconyc My room has a maximum throw distance of 167 inches. Within this space, the NZ800 can project a maximum screen size of 134 inches (16:9 aspect ratio), whereas the Sony 6100 can project a larger screen size of 143 inches. Additionally, I’ve been told by some projector experts that the Sony offers superior processing capabilities and a slight advantage for gaming on the PS5. These factors make the Sony my preferred choice over the JVC.

[@bensmitty1313]

I am so glad i watched this. My father is updating his home theatre and asked for my advice and these are the target range for them after selling their last work truck and downsizing. He originally was leaning Sony as many do but didn't even consider double checking it still had 3D, took it for granted on a $15k projector. He will be getting the JVC lol.

[@imittal76]

Thanks for review, Shane.

[@johnlewis6226]

Thanks for the great detailed examples in this evaluation so we can preview the differences. I've had Sony and Epson thus far, my next one will be a laser.

[@Antimonkat]

What do you think about it against the new Epsons? You haven't direct compared as far as I know, but impressions anyway?

[@JamesWilliams-gf8gm]

They are too expensive, I will be skipping this generation. Why do TVs get cheaper every release but projectors go up each time…..

[@bassage13]

Because 99.99999999% of people use TVs. Us projector users are a small group. They can't mass produce them as much, so they have to charge us enthusiasts a high price.

[@TRX25EX]

2 reasons: 1. Which was mentioned in previous comment 2. Projector technology advancing much faster and TVs became lazy lately

[@pconyc]

Thx for the excellent review, Shane. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE for the love of Christmas do a comparison of this to the new NZ800. I've got a fully light controlled theater I'm building (no windows) and ultimately plan to use a madvr core. Which would you go with (put the 3D aside for the moment)? Gotta know! 🙏

[@sprint110]

Fantastic video! I’d be really interested to see how the Sony 6100 stacks up against the newer NZ800.

[@therealshanelee]

We may find out soon enough.

[@craigosterberg5045]

Thanks for review

[@percybedford6266]

Will Sony release a replacement for the 5000es?

[@therealshanelee]

I'm sure they will considering JVC has a couple lower cost models.

[@percybedford6266]

@@therealshanelee I think so too. Just wondering when they will. Thanks for the review. The Sony 8 looks really good.

[@TRX25EX]

Question: What is better going Bravia 8 or getting XW7000ES + MadVR?

[@therealshanelee]

MadVR isn't gonna fix major flaws in the image. It's discussed in the video.

[@kelownatechkid]

No 3D 😭 what a letdown sony, even cheap projectors have 3D! Otherwise looks amazing.

[@bassage13]

There's maybe 5 people on earth who care about 3D. Why would they waste the money? You can't even buy a TV with 3D for the same reason. That stupid gimmick keeps coming back and fails every time. Nobody wants it.

[@ricanman85]

@@bassage135 people? There are tons of people with actual home theaters that have 3D content to watch, if anything, it is MORE prominent in the projector community than anywhere else, which is why you don’t see it in TVs anymore, those are marketed to the masses

[@aamarrahman8631]

​@@bassage13waste ??😅

[@saikatbose8370]

No 3d no buying. I WOULD PREFER BENQ W5800

[@tithyroy5656]

Love your presentation .

[@Macroproxy]

Shane, pretty sure ypu need dynamic control on FULL, not Limited, if you want full fade to black in those cut scenes. It is how I use it and highly recommend it, works excellent.

[@therealshanelee]

It's mentioned in the vid.

[@Gadgetlava]

At £16,000 retail, Sony can go take a hike. no movie experience is worth that amount of money.

[@tylee5291]

I don't have any 3D content so that works for me. Glad to see Sony stepping to JVC!!!!

[@avtechman77]

NO 3D SUPPORT? Not even with a sync box?

[@therealshanelee]

Nope

[@avtechman77]

@therealshanelee I guess I'm forced to stick with my 915ES then.. SMH

[@kevinstayton9607]

I have purchased 3 high end Sony projectors in the last 8 years, upgrading each time, I have been waiting for the new upgrades, NO 3D, NO Sony in my future. HELLO JVC

[@jebo4jc]

When 100" QLED TVs are $2000, projectors are under serious attack.

[@bassage13]

100"??? That's tiny. No WAY that little screen is converting us with real home theaters. I believe the real killer of projectors is far away in the future, but it's coming. It will need to be foldable or rollable screens. That's the only way you can ship truly large screens. Those are coming eventually. Maybe 20 years?

[@hddanman7263]

That’s a shame that for that much money they decided to not keep 3D it’s a big No for me for that reason

[@hddanman7263]

Great video though

[@SnakeDoctor5104]

First Epson, now Sony. They will loose sales, due to this. Not liking this trend of dropping 3D. Other manufacturers, like Hisense, listened to their customers and added 3D, which is great.

[@marvinabugov4579]

As I recall, as noted in a video about JVC at CEDIA 2022? . . . a JVC exec noted they had a NEW laser technology that they were working on. I thought by now, they would have announced it, but obviously not yet. What I find fascinating is how JVC has taken their electronic technology from a totally different perspective than Sony: Aircraft simulation monitors vs traditional cinema technology. So when you innocently say: “Watch out JVC” - I think the obverse maybe truer . . . instead, it’s “Watch-out-Sony!”. Sony got caught with its “technology-pants” down in 2020-2021/22 by JVC - now only catching-up with a new video processing chip. Yet, I don’t think it will be enough, that is unless Sony corporately has decided to change its perspective too? If not, I somehow think Sony will get “blindsided” again in the video projector space. Of course, only time / competition will tell, but your headline: ‘Watch-out JVC” - I think belies what JVC technologically has percolating in the background. I have to wonder if JVC is about to kick Sony’s butt yet again with it? Maybe next year? As JVC is operating in a totally different market than Sony, I should think JVC is not thinking corporately in terms of competition with Sony, but instead, just trying to make their products better. Bettering Sony then is just a side benefit that JVC can just take some pride in - for a few moments - while they move on listening to a - different technological drummer.

[@onlyvik]

The Sony looks oversharpened, likely due to the sharpness and Reality Creation settings (Resolution, noise filtering, and D.Focus)

[@therealshanelee]

Sharpness is turned all the way down and reality creation is disabled. It’s not oversharpened.

[@carlo70no]

Looks like the photon torpedo launcher of the Enterprise A

[@michaelduernecker684]

JVC have the best Picture- for me.

[@Kalashnikova1947]

Thank god we have people like valerion, nexigo etc.. These dinosaur companies will be out of business if they don't change their greedy strategies.

[@therealshanelee]

The quality between a single chip DLP and this is huge. Nobody would pick the image from those over a Sony or JVC. Doesn't matter if it's Valerion or Nexigo. I have them all and there's a difference.

[@chandan6119]

@@therealshanelee a video about that would help for many to see the actual difference.

[@bassage13]

What? Those are toys. JVC and Sony are the real thing. Like the difference between a Ferrari and a Kia. If you are happy with junk, that's fine, have fun. But people who care about quality are never using that garbage.

[@HomeCinemaEnthusiast]

Great review , still think £16k is a lot for this projector

[@spiderman0863]

It’s time to get rid of the black bars. Not make them dark. Eliminate. Gone. Sienara. The first company to do that without an anamorphic lens has my money. 😊

[@therealshanelee]

That's not a projector manufacturer choice. That's the directors of the movies choice.

[@spiderman0863]

@ Thanks for your reply. I understand that. What I’m saying is there must be a way to display that aspect ratio without the bars natively. I’ve owned at least 10 projectors over the years. I’m sure it must be possible and something that enthusiasts would pay a premium for. Cheers!😊

[@therealshanelee]

@@spiderman0863 you can buy a projector with a scope lens. But then you'd have bars on the sides for 16x9 content. Get screen masking, problem solved for any aspect ratio.

[@confinoj]

@@spiderman0863 This is not possible. You choose a screen aspect ratio. The director chooses the aspect ratio of the content. If they don’t match you get black bars. That’s just basic geometry. You can do stretching and zooming with a video processor but then you are distorting the image in some way. The only good option to not have black bars is to have 4 way variable masking and a video processor. If you had 100% light control and a projector that was capable of true blacks then black bars wouldn’t be as noticeable but that’s not possible. The super pricey Christie Eclipse comes closest though.

[@spiderman0863]

@ Thanks for your reply. I understand. What I’m saying is do what it takes to make this work. Smart minds. Most things thought impossible just a short time ago have come to light. I think it is possible. Engineering is amazing to say the least. Take my money.😊Cheers!

[@DavidSusiloUnscripted]

Stupid pricing for middling performance. Might as well just get JVC NZ700. Better blacks, more accurate picture out of the box, no risk of browning of the imaging chip that plagues nearly 100% of Sony 4K projectors both home and commercial cinemas.

[@valueelectronics9390]

David, I need to send you Sony's New BRAVIA 8 Projector, or ask you to come to our A/V Showroom to see Sony's new projectors. The new XR processor is by far the best video processor and Sony's new laser system, and and new lens is brighter, and has much deeper and richer blacks with excellent detail. Sony's new BRAVIA Projector 8 and BRAVIA Projector 9 come out of the box close to the picture quality after it is professionally calibrated

[@alainlangdon295]

sb

[@kendrelewis5465]

I wouldn't pay that much for a projector, my Xgimi Aura 2 produces amazing picture quality.

[@doyleshafer]

Sounds like somebody chose Walmart glasses when they needed prescription lenses.

[@kendrelewis5465]

@doyleshafer im good with My Xgimi Aura 2 paired with a floor rising vividstorm ALR screen my picture quality is fantastic. I'd rather the thousands of dollars in my account then me waste it on this Sony projector or a JVC, and I don't think it would produce that much of a better picture for the money.

[@jamescampbell8482]

If they can use Laser Phosphor for a light source, why in God's name are we not using a laser driven MEMS system shining on phosphor so that we could again have a raster scanning display capable of infinite contrast and CRT like motion clarity? All the engineering is already done and pico projectors exist that use it. I have a pair of Nebra Anybeam MEMS pico projectors and though they are low resolution, when I run them in Nvidia surround 60hz content looks as good in motion as it ever did on an old CRT.

[@willworld3007]

No 3d it's no buy for me

[@therealshanelee]

Bummer they got rid of it. It was really good on their projectors.

[@VideoEnthusiast-id9di]

I just purchased Sony's previous high-end 3D VPL-XW7000ES and we are loving it! The dealer gave us a very nice discount and we are so very glad we took advantage of this great projector at the very nice price.

[@willworld3007]

@@therealshanelee I will just reach back and grab old one then . My 3d collection is to massive to trash lol 🤣

[@marvinabugov4579]

Excellent review looks like a worthy successor to the last crop of Sony projectors. Meanwhile, fan noise is still an issue I see in high mode. JVC has a function that allows you to leave the fan at a moderate level yet max the laser out at 100%, if required. Suffice to say, I will be checking it out at my local dealer very soon, and if so, the JVC will win my pocketbook.

[@therealshanelee]

@marvinabugov4579 JVC is much louder than Sony. I have them on hand.

[@cotx79]

Nope

[@justbrowsing5279]

What kind of nonsense is the "resolution" setting? Resolution is number of pixels by number of pixels. Sounds like they are trying to sell something to idiots.

[@Tooraj2raj]

NO 3D 👎 NO SONY 👎 On Amazon even the cheapest projectors do 3D . What a stupid let down by SONY . I was out of epson since they removed 3D & now the SONY 👎

[@MrPreet23]

Way over priced