Is Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town Any GOOD?

[@vtea]

BIG thanks to Pastel for voicing that gremlin at the start of the video, her insta is here: instagram.com/pastelpaso/ Also I have a discord server for anyone who wants to join: discord.gg/U8JZaKV

[@vtea]

Tbh I dont care

[@Breach-Clear]

@@vtea they are bots

[@corinawhite6457]

try season of Olivie town but maker that make is getting fix still good and not only mayo you can make soy sauce not many game let some other sauce need more to make like barbecue sauce would be good not just Mayo sauce getting moster harvest and hope rune factory 5 to and will be great when my time at Portia 2 come out sometime next year

[@michaelbainbridge7335]

So, VTea, have you played Rune Factory 5 yet? I've been playing it a lot lately. Not even done with the first in game year yet but I'm already married to Ludmila in my playthrough and a kid will be on the way.

[@vtea]

I have and while i think it's "good" and I do enjoy playing it, theres a lot of problems I have with it. (I mean, it has the same gameplay loop as rune factory 4, of course I'm going to enjoy it). Aside from FPS issues, I think the transition to 3D didnt really add much to the franchise and I'd argue it took more away from it since the controls felt really clunky and took a lot of getting used to. I think they could've done a lot more with the 3d envorments, but since they didnt, it kinda makes me question whyd they even bother. On the plus side, despite the envorments and character models looking a bit rough at times, it definately looks a lot more modern (when it isnt running at 20 fps). Deployables are still a pain, combat doesn't feel challenging for the right reasons, animations look stiff, but all in all, it's a rune factory game.

[@marksaterapi1389]

I remember reading the reason why rival marriages were removed was because the Japanese fan base hated it. And I completely understand it. But if it was up to me, I would implement it like this: keep the rival marriages and rival children, but only activate it when you get married first. This, In my opinion, is the best of both worlds.

[@Raver-1601]

I kinda like the (nonsensical) way AP and ToT handled rival marriages by befriending your rival

[@zombehnashun]

Or you could've made it like it was in the early Rune Factory games, where you can steal the bride/groom away from their husbands/wives to be, AT the wedding.

[@Raver-1601]

@@zombehnashun I don't think Harvest Moon would dare to implement such chaotic feature

[@Jellybeansatdusk]

I just feel bad for them because they have like a ton of hearts with me because I’m trying to befriend them and they catch feels, but I can only pick one, and then they live alone for 200 years still in love with me. :(

[@elisabeth2643]

Like excuse me I gave gifts DAILY to all of them to get them to like me. And suddenly my rivals want to to get married all because I stumbled into a conversation between them? I don’t think so! xD I couldn’t decide between grey and cliff so I sent cliff away during year one by not recommending him the job. Stay single Ann! 🤣

[@Rini8903]

My heart honestly hurt when they said no more rivals I liked that mechanic. I love the idea that the towns people in growning and evolving because honestly all they had to do was lock the rival scene to activate after you married your preferred character and rename the old rival scenes into villager romance events.

[@vtea]

It was really tragic for me too... makes the whole town feel less organic now... it also makes me sad Cliff cant get together with Ann (they're so cute together!)

[@boshwa20]

I'll never forgive the Japanese!!!

[@elvirag4197]

The biggest redesign crime is Zack. My poor beautiful Zac

[@vtea]

RIP zach, he just looks goofy now

[@TopHatFox]

But Won (Huang) looks good

[@vtea]

*they also got rid of his stereotype*

[@kimberlykyang2358]

He was Zaddy

[@CryKaze]

They should’ve kept his og design and make him marriageable tbh.

[@PeanutButterGamer]

I used to love Elli, but I'm all in on Ann now. (Err, Ran... I guess.) Enjoyed the video!

[@vtea]

OH MY GOD I KNOW THIS PERSON! Also Ann was my first choice, but Cliff was such a good boy, he deserves her! (Love your videos btw, Watched your stuff for years!)

[@DragonBIueX]

I had a hard time choosing, they're all pretty good. But coincidentally I also decided on Ran. I mean we do have a lot in common, we love food.

[@vtea]

I miss her overalls ;

[@Haleysama12]

@@vtea Me too :c First Gray's hat, then Cliff's ponytail, and now Ran/Ann's overalls TT o TT

[@LunarEleven]

@@Haleysama12 and Duke's Count Dracula skunk stripe hair! Ok, nobody missed that.

[@airstyles1989]

The only problem I have with the newest Friends of Mineral Town... These goddamn animals takes literal generations to love me!!!!

[@vtea]

Sorry, cant relate on the basis that I still have no animals :X (does it actually take that long?)

[@kyuu6985]

@@vtea lol yes it does. especially animals that you bought (not form breed). + also i hate the fact that we cant 'pick up' them lol

[@dbclass4075]

@@kyuu6985 Gone are the days of tossing chickens around to increase their affection.

[@LunarEleven]

But you get a boost if you feed by hand instead of use feeder, plus at least you never lose affection to illness!

[@LunarEleven]

@@dbclass4075 bahaha those chickens definitely had Stockholm's.

[@laurendahlman7858]

I kinda hated that they didn’t let us make food without a recipe :/ and that time goes by a bit faster. Also the inventory is pretty large, but WHERE IS MY BASKET!! And I wanna start with my doge too 3:

[@vtea]

Basket was kinda rendered unless because you can stuff so much stuff in your inventory. I do admit, making recipes instantly is easier, but it doesn't feel as rewarding as experimenting and adding additional stuff. Also the point about time being faster, I actually had a section of the video where I talked about that, but while getting the footage to do a comparison, I discovered there wasn't that big of a difference (maybe it was an emulation issue), but regardless, when I go through my "daily routine" I'm usually in bed by 6pm anyways, so time being faster isnt really an issue. What is an issue is a lack of content to fill up the rest of that day.

[@lnaverd]

@@vtea poop 0

[@Kalvinjj]

Does it go faster tho? From what I timed it runs at exactly the Back to Nature speed (6s = 10min). Didn't spend much if any time on the GBA original Friends of Mineral Town tho. This BtN speed made the transition to that game so much more natural to me, everything kept happening at the same pace

[@binal-flecki2387]

@@Kalvinjj good to hear that, i was worried when i heard about the time progression thing

[@LunarEleven]

@@binal-flecki2387 I heard it was 2x as fast but never seemed like it

[@JuFated]

The NPC dads definitely got the short end of the stick when it comes to redesigns. Their wives look real fresh though. Also I understand the redesigns for most but I too wish they at least kept some of the more iconic parts like Gray's hat and Cliff's ponytail =7= .

[@vtea]

Feel the same :/

[@luffyduffy7817]

In the GBA version, I would go for Cliff every time. Even when I'd tell myself to try and go for someone different I just couldn't. In the switch version he was...much more underwhelming and his redesign has a huge part to do with it

[@vtea]

If only they kept the OG designs and added more dialogue, that's all I'd ever want

[@Kalvinjj]

Gray could have kept a hat indeed, but yeah it was long overdue removing that dumb UMA text, "uma" means horse in Japanese, which is explained by his previous job in HM64, but had jack all to do with a blacksmith apprentice. The one I felt the most was Manna tho, damn she was waifu material originally, but now she looks so damn weird... The grape earrings look cute tho and fitting, if not a bit obvious/forced.

[@reddytoplay9188]

​@vtea it's sad cause they could get sued doing that. Maybe a modder might one day do that.

[@lennethvalkyrie6919]

I played a few hundred hrs on Harvest Moon: BTN, and played a few thousand hrs on Stardew Valley, and I felt exactly the same. I was happy to play the remake version, but they could have improved at least some. Art style... I still wish for old ones, but I can get used to it. But, the daily work is pretty much water crops, go to the mountain to recover energy and forage, drop gifts to ladies and sleep over and over. I loved it when it came out nearly 20 years ago, and still think it's a great game. But, I will go back to Stardew Valley a lot earlier than I expected.

[@vtea]

Yea :/ such a missed opportunity to add additional content, but at least I got to relive one of my favorite childhood games.

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

@@vtea exactly, it would have been so easy to add content, especially since its present in their OLDER games! how you gonna remove fertilizer, clothes crafting, greenhouse, fish pond, mushrooms, tea trees, hair salon!?

[@brooketilton6215]

I HATE that they removed the rival marriages, I was getting really into the game and when I found that out. It was like a kick to the gut, what’s the point of playing and putting all this time in if the world if it’s always going to stay the same. Of course I kept playing but it put a bad taste in my mouth really, that’s one of the issues I’ve always had with Stardew, man I can rant about this for days

[@vtea]

Feels the same... it's one of the things that made those older games unique... its such a tease that they include a few of the rival events, but dont go through with them!

[@dianacarolinaorozco1702]

Im slow on these games so i always go for the (ironically) 'secret' barchelott because i know i don't suffer the problem of seeing a rival event on my future-husband also the challenge is fun, i like seeing everybody marry while i romance my beloved, is sad i will not see everybody married here on this new game

[@vtea]

Completely agree with that feeling! I usually romance really fast, I wish I would slow down and see everyone else's relationships progress as well.

[@Lyuc4ss]

They could have just adjusted rival marriage to like 5 or 6 years for those casual laid back players. Or rival events could continue after you're married or something. I agree that the removal of rival marriage is a bad move.

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

also no greenhouse, doghouse, or crib. and the renovations are super lame and limited. How did they go backwards with renovations? Bathroom is literally just a door now, not even visible form the outside. Oh, also animals are invincible. so no more worrying about typhoons, in fact its more efficient to abandon your animals once they max hearts. Honestly, kinda let down after sinking in 50 hours to see all thats missing.

[@sk8tie]

I married Cliff-- his redesign is super cute, but also it felt like he had the most convincing narrative of them all. He felt like the strongest and most dynamic character where the others *ahem brandon* are just boring archetypes

[@vtea]

He's the only character that felt you had any "influence" over and I think more characters need to have his level of depth!

[@jayjay8782]

Brandon had potential tho his design is kinda slick but unfortunately his personality is.....blach

[@Belavula]

I loathe that they removed rival marriages ): I was so excited for that to come back. Sad thing is if they made them a DLC you could activate when you make a character, I would probably buy it

[@vtea]

Same, but I'd probably not buy it out of spite since it's something that really should've been apart of the base game... it kinda ruined the integrity of the original for me sadly...

[@LeeraChan]

Something that should be easy and a great way to keep rival marriage: Lock the last rival heartevent so they can ONLY happen after you married. So you get your partner without problems but you will still see the other villagers marry. No casual player gets their fave taken from them but things still keep on happening in the village. I would have loved to see this

[@vtea]

This fixes the "time limit" issue for casual players, but the removal of the rival marriage system was mainly due to people being upset that the other bachelors/bachelorettes marrying eachother (apparently just one isnt enough for them). So sad to see it go, the remake deserved better!

[@cap90parker0]

Karen was my HM forever girl until the remake, the original Karen design had so much cool girl attitude but was very approachable similar to Wendy from gravity falls.

[@kipiekiee519]

I do just want to point out, as someone who's first game was HMDS, The cave system in stardew is way more similar to that one. The holes were littered all around and it was sooo easy to faint due to falling through too many, There were some mobs you could fight (nowhere near stardew but still, there was combat), and there was a cave princess who you could marry.

[@v3xman]

I can't believe you only have 6k subscribers. This is actually a good and entertaining review. I've played a lot of Harvest Moon games and recently picked up SOS. The redesigns are hit or miss but overall it feels better than the original. I married Popuri on the original but now I'm split between Popuri, Marie, Elli and Ran.

[@vtea]

I'm glad you liked it! Kinda validates the amount of hours that went into making it :'D

[@KuraiKodoku16]

To me, a routine is a good thing due to my autism. I found Stardew Valley a bit overwhelming and intimidating how PRECISE people tell you to play to win the main story mode. I dunno, might just be me ;#; Might give Stardew Valley another shot, I didn't play it for long on Steam, I suck at keyboard controls anyways. Cause the game does look like fun, it's just the overwhelming feeling and how some people tell you what's a must to do ;#;

[@vtea]

I mean everyone's different, and different games appeal to people with different tastes. Stardew is one of my favorites, but it's not for everyone, no need to force yourself! If anything, stardew doesn't have a time limit, just play the way you want to play and enjoy yourself because that's what videogames are for

[@kittygirlrachel]

same here, except different reasons. I also have Autism. Well, actually, ASD. With me, the 3 harvest moon games I could put all my time into were DS/DS Cute, Animal Parade... and Grand Bazaar for quite some time. With those three games, I put a lot more of my time into them because I had one, very specific goal. And it was always get married as fast as possible... Catch me with Skye, the wizard, and Amir. Wizard was married on the first year, Skye took 3 years, and Amir? ... technically it was the same as Skye, but that's just because I kind of cheated at that age. Of the three, Gale, the wizard, was the most interesting. And I loved Animal Parade BECAUSE it held my hand. okay, starting to see why I like the newer pokemon games a lot more than other people do... I actually prefer games that give you very direct instructions on where to go and what to do, over just plopping you in one spot and struggling to figure out what you're MEANT to do. Like, I knew overall what I was MEANT to do in Stardew Valley, but it wasn't very much instruction and I never did the community center.

[@Demaeter]

Its a lot of fun definetly worth it and fun for people that want to see where Stardew Valley came from. Game seems outdated because it is an old game just with a reskin and some nice extra features.

[@vtea]

I think it would have been a great opportunity for them to fix what was wrong with the original FOMT (lack of content), but instead I think they leaned too hard into the nostalgia side. But hey, Story of seasons pioneers of olive town looks really promising!

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

@@vtea Olive town looks great, my hopes are sky high, ready to be dropped on its head but hey still excited.

[@vtea]

Just got new about the amount of character customization, it looks really good and looking forward to it! Only thing that worries me at the moment is how the gameplay/pacing will be like...

[@HarvestGod]

As a big fan of 64, I very much appreciate the redesigns. I played FoMT a lot back in the day too, but it never sat right with me that all these essentially new characters were wearing the skins of the ones I knew and loved from 64. Gray could've still had a hat, though.

[@vtea]

RIP grey's hat :/

[@shinjisdonewithyourbs8378]

This review is pretty cute and informed! Good job!

[@vtea]

Awww thank you!

[@marcgomez8391]

So I've been a fan of Harvest Moon for a long while, but my first game in the series was DS. Unfortunately I never got hooked to FoMT despite trying it, so I went ahead and decided the remake was a perfect chance to give it a shot. And holy crap I sank 200 hours in it. I vastly agree with the whole video, but as someone without nostalgia for the original, I'll say I love the redesigns. I love me some cute 2D waifus and Popuri was just too cute now. I do agree characters needed more regular dialogues though, but they all have new events and I'm very hapy I watched almost all of them before I stopped playing. Yes I even dated everyone at once just so I could see every heart event in the game, and I loved the charm of these characters. Flawed game, but super cute and pretty and charming.

[@vtea]

The game does have its merits and the game overall is pretty polarizing... some hate it just for its aesthetics alone, some people enjoy all the QoL.

[@marcie557]

people actually hate on magical melody because of the art style lmao

[@vtea]

It's actually as polarizing as the models in FOMT tbh, but I see A LOT of people defending the model design in Magical Melody, yet condemning FOMT (probably because FOMT is a remake)

[@dennydraws]

I hated that they removed the rival marriages cause it gave some longevity to the game after you get married. I always enjoyed working on the heart events to see everyone getting with someone. Now there is not a whole lot to do. The NPCs are locked in limbo of generic never changing dialogues, the world feels frozen. Married Won/Huang btw :D; which makes everyone being frozen in undeveloped limbo even worse lol I do enjoy that they gave Won a glow up and he had an actual marriage portrait + better dialogue in general.

[@vtea]

Won's redesign was one of the best in my opinion. Really turned him into an actual bachelor instead of a walking Asian stereotype (although I do admit he rocked the character as the stereotype)

[@dennydraws]

@@vtea Yeah, I married him in the GBA version too and he was pretty funny guy but the glow up was on point so I felt especially spoiled in the remake. :D They also seemed to have cut some of the more sad events, like Gotz saving you during a blizzard and mentioning his family died in one. I think they removed May running away to the harbor cause she thinks of her mother too. At least I don't recall triggering it at all.

[@abigailpascua8377]

“That god damn forsaken middle tile” Yeah, same sentiments

[@dbclass4075]

The town map in GBA version also does tells the schedule of shops, except as you said, not intuitive (press A).

[@CatsandDragons7]

I always like to say that Stardew Valley is everything I love about FoMT, but basically perfected. Only exception is probably rival marriages and horse racing festival, I wish Stardew had those.

[@elvirag4197]

FIX THE SMALL BED NEXT TO THE BIG BED

[@vtea]

LMAO, YES

[@zombehnashun]

I miss the old translation errors. RIP Hing Rodcopper. I hope you are fishing for fishing in heaven.

[@vtea]

It's all fun and games until Natsume messes up some code and you cant marry the harvest goddess anymore

[@deadmahn9219]

What i find good about this game is that it plays and feels like a good gateway/starting game for some trying out these types of games and the series as a whole. Not as tedious as the original, not that bad gameplay, not that bad graphic style, etc. Its a great first game,

[@vtea]

Completely agree! This game would be a 100% recommend to a new player to farming sim games, although I beilive that just because it's less tedious, that doesn't make it strictly better. Idk, theres just a certain charm the orginal has with its inherent clunky-ness.

[@springheeledjackofthegurdi2117]

will you review Rune Factory 4 Special? or do a video reviewing other farming sims?

[@vtea]

Stardew Valley deserves it's own video :3

[@edwardhoffenheim3249]

Ngl but mining is my favorite part of these games. It's unhealthy how much time I spent in those caverns.

[@pedro-e-o-lobo]

Loved this review! I couldn't ever possibly afford any newer game, so it's cool to watch someone who loves HM as much as me review this one. I'd really love to hear you talk about the DS Rune Factory games, because 1, 2 and 3 are some of my all time favorites

[@vtea]

I love rune factory 2, and I might do a rune factory 5 video that tells about the others

[@TrippyScarecrow]

I'm currently playing FoMT for the first time, and also only now learning about all the controversy about Natsume. The only HM games I've played are 64, DS, and now FoMT. Sucks to hear what happened between Marvelous and Natsume. I'm currently trying to romance Karen. She just seems like the fun party girl. I'll definitely be picking up a copy of this remake, though.

[@kantasirisriro3941]

I haven't decided yet 😕 feels like I need to get to know them all over again. Doesn't have that spark like the first time I met Eli. (Best girl for me btw)

[@vtea]

*Eli for best girl*

[@anoniemonbekenden8159]

@@vtea I'm scared to piss off the ONLY doctor in town.. what if I get sick and he can't deal with his jealousy?

[@vtea]

@@anoniemonbekenden8159 Eli's a nurse. *ELI FOR BEST GIRL*

[@AevenSong]

Wish I found your channel sooner! I have had close to 2000+ hours invested into HM:BTN back when I still had the old PS1. Just picked up the new SOS:FOMT and holy moly it is so different from what I'm used to. Time moves alot faster, no rival marriage, the art style like omg

[@jeralynjulian519]

Thanks for this!! Ended up just buying it since im a long time Harvest Moon fan, I was curious as of why it's called "Story of Seasons" instead of Harvest Moon and NOW IT MAKES SENSE!

[@vtea]

Glad I could help :D ~

[@michelvanderlinden8363]

Im probably going to pick up this game purely to relive the nostalgia for Back to Nature, my favorite HM game ever. And Im sure by comparisson it's not as good as Stardew Valley, but Im totally fine with that. They are two different games, with this game being the main focus of your farm, with Stardew Valley focusing more on your overall interacting with the town (imho).

[@vtea]

In that case, I'm sure you would love it!

[@rizahawkeyepierce1380]

I really like the new character designs overall, and I felt like a lot of the marriage candidates had a big glow-up (I felt about the same about the old and new designs for Karen and Ann/Ran). I did hate Jennifer, because she was so preachy about harmony, etc, but at the same time so judgmental, especially at first. I also liked Sasha, Manna, and Anna's, Basil's, and especially Huang's new designs, but was very sad about Zack and Carter, who went from hot to weird-looking.

[@vtea]

I felt like they could have kept stuck to the original designs a little closer (ex: Ann's overalls, Grey's Hat), also I think Carter looks to uninspired and generic looking

[@AntaresCNK]

This game was my childhood! I was heartbroken when i lost my original copy 😭 Also, I’m pretty sure the mine drop holes were done in HM: DS Cute... or at least in some HM game prior to Stardew Valley’s release

[@eves8572]

This was a great video, I was surprised not to see you touch base on the marriage candidates opening to both genders. Regardless, my favourite to marry is definitely Ellie 100% though in Magical Melody (hoping there is a remake of that oml) I always loved Jamie through the rivalry and the possibility of marriage regardless of your starting gender.

[@vtea]

AIGHT, I actually realized that point too late into making the video to mention it. Truth be told, I honestly just forgot because it feels so (standard?) in 2020 for you being able to marry both genders in other farming sim games.

[@ZuppiTV]

I'm pretty sure that Harvest Moon DS/DS Cute actually did the falling through holes thing in the mines long before Stardew Valley did. Apart from looking for the legendary sword in the the second mine or doing Keira's heart events in the third it's mostly the same deal every time you visit though. I completely agree that removing rival marriages in future games was kind of pointless removing that feeling of the town progressing around you. Might be worth checking out DS/DS Cute and linking it with Friends of Mineral Town through the GBA slot on the DS to get the bachelor/bachelorettes from Mineral Town and extra events.

[@haylessa]

wow this video helped me a lot to see how the new remake goes so thank you! I'm a harvest moon btn fan myself and the detail notes on character design and the rival marriage is so helpful. personally I also loved that they had rival marriages in the original, it makes it not boring for me and also motivates me to progress through the romance. it also makes the relationship more meaningful in a way(?) if that makes any sense. some farming sim games has a lot (and i mean A LOT) of romanceable characters but the depth this rival marriage system gives--which they don't have--just kinda makes the experience bland overall. ps: totally felt the feeling bad for rivals part, i am emotionally attached to all them (and yes except rick. karen deserves way better) i even had idk how many saves just to keep cliff from leaving the town damn that boy got a grip on me

[@vtea]

Thanks for the comment and validating my hate for rick :D

[@kathryn2016]

I feel that I should point out that the 'new events' you praised them for adding were actually added in More Friends of Mineral Town

[@vtea]

There was a version of the script where I did give it mention, but never doing a "full" playthrough of more friends, I didnt know to what extent the new events were (I didnt know there was this many until after making the video). But as a guy, it makes sense that I (and many others) wouldn't play the "girl" version of the game. I'll be completely honest though, they totally could have half assed it and only included the events from Fomt instead of both Fomt and MFomt, so they still deserve a little bit of praise there.

[@chadnorris8257]

I read on TV tropes that when Karen has blonde bangs, and brown hair, the blonde was supposed to be the natural color of her bangs, Because she was related to Eve. I always thought she dyed her bangs, and all her hair was naturally brown.

[@tashibalampkin8555]

Yoo. I love these animation/game reviews. Harvest Moon/ Story of Seasons was my childhood. I loved those game with my whole heart. I remember turning and off and on back in the day to get my preferred baby gender. Keep up the good work. This review was really good. Very detailed.

[@vtea]

Aww thanks! I love making these videos and I'm glad you enjoyed it as well!

[@dorislampert7901]

Your videos are really well-made and funny! I love the drawings :) I'm honestly surprised that you don't have more subscribers! Wish you all the best with your channel :)

[@vtea]

Aw thanks! Maybe if I posted more I'd have more subs (foreshadowing)

[@Dinosaullo]

Nice review, but I think you could have mentioned the heart system with animals, which for me was a very big downgrade compared to the original, because animals have a limit of affection with you even if you spend all the time with them. The game forces you to breed the animal so that his son will increase the limiter, but it belittles your old animal that should like you more, does not make sense. It is very sad to know that your animal that has been with you since the beginning will not reach the best levels of production. Sorry for my english, i'm using google translate.

[@vtea]

Woah! That's pretty lame, imagine having an animal from day 1 and not being able to reach max hearts with it. Thanks for the comment btw! Would have never known this because I usually dont raise animals in farming sims.

[@courtneytatefigueroa1172]

Ugh yes!! I also hate that about Pioneers of Olive Town!! The original A Wonderful Life let you get maximum hearts and it was so neat to keep your first cow forever

[@bigalittlea5747]

I romanced every girl then I decided who to marry, so I pretty much cut the guys out of getting married

[@vtea]

Lmao, not like they had the option to marry someone in the SoS version

[@Brooke-dy7gx]

That damn middle tile...

[@quackingsimp]

Ugh hate that😭😭

[@kimkrimson]

Cool video. Great Animation. Looking forward to the review of the new story of seasons

[@vtea]

You know it!

[@Ram_Rom_Riv_Rey]

dude this is awesome, I'm in, great review, good animation, all i expect with the cover page

[@commentsforthealgorithm]

Drop down holes were implemented in Harvest moon tree of tranquility back in the early 2000s wii era Edit: Also toxic gases were in that game, sometimes the gases sped you up or slowed you down. Often the gases would deplete your stamina or make you temporarily blind. The pitfalls eould either drop you down multiple levels or possibly shoot you up floors.

[@vtea]

I know they've been implimented in other installments of the series, and it is a massive improvement over mineral town's version of the mines. But I think it's sad they chose to "preserve" the original than to make the mines more complex/intresting like in those other games.

[@commentsforthealgorithm]

@@vtea I agree. Your comments on the villagers struck home.

[@Imnoonewhoareyou]

That was the case for Magical Melody as well, so it predated even the wii era (although I recognise that wasn’t his main complaint)

[@Zestyclose-Big3127]

​@@vtea 10:53 we...had that (as you showed) in BTN. Without saving too! _leaves basket inside_

[@kotarofuuma5608]

They nerfed my ELLI , NOOOOOOOOO. How dare you Marvelous

[@vtea]

I perfer her previous design more, a lot more sweet/cute

[@kotarofuuma5608]

@@vtea bro i feel you bruh

[@DarkArisha]

I think the reason why they remove the rival marriage is cuz it becomes an issue before with lots of jp fans complaining about the girls getting married to someone else. They don't like the time limit so they decided to remove it and get rid of competition.

[@vtea]

People have thought of a very simple solution to lock the rival marriages until after the player gets married, would solve the issue of a time limit and the ONE person you like marrying someone else (honestly picking more than one is just greedy)

[@Raver-1601]

@@vtea Imho Animal Parade and Tree of Tranquility handled the rival system perfectly, even if it doesn't make sense

[@CuriousCat1111]

I really like your Harvest Moon videos. They were also a huge part of my childhood. Out of curiosity, are you going to cover Song of Seasons:Olive Town?

[@vtea]

If people like you keep requesting I do, then I gotta! Also glad to know you enjoyed the video, really keeps me going!

[@CuriousCat1111]

@@vtea glad to help share the smile you put on my face, man 💜 Your work is great. Best of luck in all yourendeavors, and may 2021 be kind to you and yours.

[@Dystnine]

I love the remake, but Carter looks like an jrpg class.

[@vtea]

Yea, his design really doesn't fit with the rest of the town...

[@Dystnine]

@@vtea I like his old look. Kai's redesign looks great. So does Cliff's. I really liked Huang's new look, since his old look was.. yeah...

[@louisantonio2462]

Also imo, I like this Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town more than Stardew Valley because it doesn't overwhelm me with too much options, I would say. It's one of those drop in, drop out kind of game compared to how Stardew Valley really has so many things to do haha. It is a tad too expensive though if I were to be honest.

[@vtea]

Oh shoot, thats a pretty good point I forgot to mention in the video... why are farming simulation games the same price as AAA titles? Like honestly if this game was $30, I would consider it really good for it's price (hey thats the same price as a gba cart, what a coincidence)

[@louisantonio2462]

@@vtea YEAH THAT'S A GOOD IDEA PRICE IT LIKE A GBA GAME FOR MORE OF THAT NOSTALGIA POINTS FAM

[@marywallace3620]

36000 seconds is 10 hours. If it'd probably take two real world days or maybe a day and a half to stay married for 50 years. Like It took me, 8ish hours to marry Cliff and build my money and materials up to even upgrade my house (and everything in it). It took that long because I wasn't trying to do everything, I was just going through the motions of slowly upgrading the tools I used most, foraging a bit, taking care of crops and animals, making friends with Gotz (so he can be happy enough to continue upgrading my house as needed), and wooing Cliff.

[@bluemalvory]

I'm sad they removed tomato festival, I think the GBA version also did not have it. That was my favorite festival back then at BTN

[@wew7930]

This is such a nice and very good video! Keep it up!!

[@migu8328]

A blessing from the skies :^DD

[@vtea]

AIGHT GUYS, WRAP IT UP. THIS GUYS FIRST

[@asliceofpai]

Growing up, Harvest moon DS was one of my favorite games. I got light of hope for switch knowing it was going to be a rip off. I’ve been wanting to get this one so I appreciate the review!

[@thepinkythepink]

Happy to have found your channel, you're a funny dude

[@vtea]

Aww thanks nice :3 hopefully I can put more videos out soon

[@dizaster_o]

Thanks for great review! my husbando is doctor, I mean, look at his new design. He iS HOT

[@vtea]

rip the circle thing on his head tho... how else am I supposed to tell that he's a doctor (you know besides his name)

[@bittybears5287]

I kinda miss the eyebrows though. Different strokes for different folks, y'know.

[@terozu5440]

Ran was my biggest crush as a kid and im really happy they gave her back her real name. also the elevator comes from HMDS not from Stardew.

[@vtea]

My first choice ;_;

[@youtwoTheta]

This video is so awesome it deserves more views. Good Job VTea for making our childhood game great again.

[@TygrasKittenKori]

Lets not forget that Jeff was also Elli's 'foster' father and potential love interest in HM64 as well..... let that sink in....

[@vtea]

Really weird when I first found that out, the age difference seemed a bit too much tbh

[@ManiacTenshiMakenshi]

great video! I never got to play the orig mineral town so I loved seeing old meets new in a charming game. tbh I'm glad I don't have to deal with rival marriages, but it would've been cool to have that as a settings option, where you could toggle it on/off

[@SoaringSoul27]

I think Animal Parade had my favorite mining is a HM/SoS game. It had pitfalls and geysers (depending on if you were going up or down the mountain), and the smoke traps in the crystals were a nice risk/reward mechanic (some gas healed or buffed you and some did the opposite).

[@vtea]

I hear A LOT of praise of animal parade and it makes me feel bad that I haven't played it

[@SoaringSoul27]

@@vtea I rate it my favorite of the 3D Harvest Moons and Mineral Town my favorite of the 2D. AP does start a bit slow, but once it gets going it shines. Has rival marriage (and they have children), decent character customization, and quite a bit of content.... I want to go plug in my Wii and play it now lol.

[@vtea]

It's actually a lot of people's favorite from what I've gathered from comments! I really do need to play it

[@alexandriadowning2526]

I literally never noticed that the characters were missing mouths! Honestly though, I think they all look as cute as a button. The Harvest moon games have always been super cute, but these graphics especially please me because they're so clean and vibrant. I can't wait to play this game!

[@vtea]

I enjoy the environments the most, they really captured the original game's charm, sad that the character models were a bit controversial though...

[@alexandriadowning2526]

@@vtea I'll admit I never played the original friends of mineral town so I didn't know what the characters looked like but I can see now that there are some bigger differences not everyone is comfortable with, which I totally get.

[@ar-jaynavalta2905]

When nostalgia hits harder than my dad

[@vtea]

LMAO someone call child services

[@cloudkitsune17]

My first HM game was Save the Homeland and I *loved it to bits*. The second was A Wonderful Life Special Edition, and I almost quit the series until my friend insisted there were other, better games, and introduced me to both HM DS and HM Friends of Mineral Town, and I've been a huge fan since. I really like the remake, especially with the new cow options. Animal Parade and Save the Homeland are still my favorites, but~ X3 And my favorite candidates were always between Gray and Marie, both original and remake. I also liked Karen and Kai, but only their original designs.

[@GamersInHellOnYt]

in the original, the big cave for gems was unlocked in Winter. when the lake froze. It had the most peaceful- and sleep inducing song in the overworld. Then in the cave- layer after layer of ... rock. I fell asleep as a kid. It was my routine afterschool.

[@Grim_October]

I never played Harvest Moon as a kid- I never knew it existed. I bought Stardew on a whim and it locked me into the world of farming sims like Gleaner Heights and My Time at Portia. Unfortunately my first Harvest Moon game was Light of Hope... I didn’t know about Story of Seasons until recently.

[@vtea]

YOU ARE LITTERALLY THE ONLY PERSON I HAVE MET TO HAVE EVER MENTION GLEANER HEIGHTS (my thoughts on it: it's underrated and that its art style/clunkyness is holding it back from becoming mainstream, one of the most unique farming sim games I've played)

[@Grim_October]

@@vtea The creator is working on a season 2!! I hope he adds more to the base game as well.

[@vtea]

That's news to me! So glad you brought it up!

[@1818char]

Can't get my character drunk is SOS FoMT. If I remember correctly, you can get drunk in BTN by drinking too much wine.

[@Marta_OuO]

MY God I remember doing that do many times. I was thinking it was funny. But on the other hand. I started to imagine how my partner feels when I once again come drunk at night when The kid is asleep. Just say hi and to to sleep when they are not in bed

[@BadgerBlue]

One of the very few games in the series I didn't get to play growing up, and now it's on ps4, can't wait to pick it up

[@annananda3071]

Have you watch the story of season: pioneer of olive town trailer? Im pretty much dissapointed with the lack of character potraits and the chibification but i know im still gonna play it when it release :)) i just hope they can make a game that looks like story of season: trio of towns.

[@vtea]

I have and the lack of portraits is scary to me because the animations for the characters look a bit lackluster... that being said the gameplay aspect of it excites me

[@icariamcgordon358]

Rare case of "If it doesnt broke, dont fixed it". I'll take it as is.

[@vtea]

OG mineral town did have it's flaws though, that being a general lack of content. Don't get me wrong, its fun for what it's worth, but I think they could have done better with minor additions (like expanded character dialog). In the remake, since they made the game overall easier with the new inventory changes, they kinda exacerbated the issue by having players play the game at a faster pace without adding more content to pad out the game.

[@ZeoViolet]

The only other farming sim game of this kind I've played is _Harvest Moon: Lighthouse of Hope._ I had this one recommended to me shortly after, so I downloaded it on sale. No regrets.

[@vtea]

OH, in that case you should see my first video that is on Harvest Moon: Light of hope

[@ZeoViolet]

@@vtea I double checked to be sure, but I saw it back when I first got the game, as well. Hehehe. I'm one of the weirdos who really enjoyed that game, and I still like it for what it is, but I admit this game is more immersive. _Lighthouse of Hope_ has Edmond, and I suppose that's what made it so good. XD

[@uimasterroshi171]

4:10 Hust hust That does the old town map too, I know that because I play it right now while I watch your videos :D

[@vtea]

OKAY! I was bouta fact check you, I booted up my emulator on my pc LITERALLY right now to confirm... and while looking at the shops I was all like. "YUP, I DONT SEE ANY HOURS ON HERE", but then I pressed "A" while looking at the stores and realized that it does indeed tell you what times they are open... played this game for years and had no idea. You win this time

[@uimasterroshi171]

@@vtea Wuahaha one big milk for me. I'm glad for you that you learn something new about your favorites games after so many years and countless hours even when it's such a little detail^^ That makes good games :P

[@vtea]

Thanks master roshi

[@Mooneron]

Those drop down holes in the mines did already exist in HM Sunshine Islands for the DS

[@vtea]

I'm aware, stardew actually ripped off those mechanics, but it's fun to see Marvelous use them again after it's success.

[@pound2loud]

Do you play rune factory? I asked before I got to the end lol. But a vid of that would be cool.

[@marimokid9985]

this actually feels like a combination of harvest moon: friends of mineral town and harvest moon: another wonderful life, with the another wonderful life taking that 3D aspect of story of seasons plus uprgraded version pf the graphics.

[@nooobiechild]

WHERE'D YOU GO MAN Need that video for Olive town, and the remake of a Wonderful Life.

[@HolicChan]

The No rival marriages was such a huge and massive heart break. I don’t get why they can’t have a switch for it and you can turn it on or off. Would that be too difficult I wonder?

[@vtea]

Not at all, but it would mean "slightly" more work for a feature that their Japanese audience didn't like

[@Freezient]

Maybe because i played this game as a kid, but i kinda like how cryptic this game tend to be by not giving you much info. I had to memorize what time stores open/closed, the character schedules, up until i still memorized it. i didnt need to look up what day the supermarket/clinic/forge closed, so I didn’t need to walk all the way to town. it stays in the back of my head.. Also yea while i kinda don’t mind them getting rid of the rival marriages in the new Bkj/sos games, i just wished they kept it in this remake, the one that started it all (i know theres 64, but its pretty much the same characters), but of course, cant have the fandom be butthurt

[@BenCarnage]

FoMT was such a big part of gaming for me growing up. My first console that was my own was a gbc, but I really only got pokemon blue and silver for it, and I could play some gb games that we already had. Then I got a GBA sp a few years later, and FoMT along with Final Fantasy Tactics and Shining Soul II. After learning the game a bit, the festivals, foraging and such I decided to try a new run where I min/max xD. Getting 5 tea bags a day from the godess and all the spring foraging. Grinding tool exp and resting in the hot springs. Getting max inventory and a basket in time for the horse racing and then buying broaches/necklaces to really launch the early game economy. Eventually I got one of the cheaper flash carts for the gba and my game library expanded. With 6 older siblings the home consoles and tvs were basically always off limits as well as the pc. I don't know if I'll ever start the game over again, but I might continue my save a bit to let my rivals get married and see all the events I haven't already. I enjoyed Harvest Moon DS (and DS Cute). DS Cute suffers far less from bugs. Breeding super-animals, super-crops and adding multiple basements to your house. Extra farms with different yields. If it didn't suffer extremely from balancing issues between different activities as well as being able to break the economy very early it would be a Stardew contender on the portable scene.

[@vtea]

I feel like Im sleeping on Harvest Moon DS... I never really gave it a "fair" shot since some of the sound FX and the portraits were off putting for me. I'll have to play it then (I actually have the real cart, just never played it)

[@AlexandraStubbs]

I agree with you on your video. To also add on what you are saying. I feel like Story of Seasons Trio of Towns is the step in the right direction. You had a challenging goal with difficult tasks to complete and prove yourself. And the more you progressed towns would lock and you had to do things to up grade them all. It brought diversity and forcing you to not favor one town over another and get to know all the interesting characters.

[@rans0927]

People are strange. At the same time, people want their remake game kept exactly the same so that they can enjoy it the same way when they are kids. But the other hand they still expect something new or different otherwise they call it boring or under expectation. Very interesting

[@vtea]

Honestly instead of a remake, I wouldve preferred an expansion. Keep the old gba sprites, the designs , just add more to mineral town and add QoL changes.

[@MissesSisters]

I loved harvest moon growing up and my first game was Harvest Moon DS, where characters talk about mineral town but you can't visit it. So i than got harvest moon more friends of mineral town, bc i soo wanted to know what mineral town looked like and childhood me was eager to play as a girl. But since HMmFoMT was never localized in german, i got it in english and since i was a kid didn't understand anything. So i'm pretty happy that they didn't change the conversations bc now when i got to play the remake, i finally know what the characters where talking about. xD

[@vtea]

Aww this is really wholesome! It reminds me when I played pokemon when I was like 4 and couldn't read, but understood what was going on when I was older.

[@DreamingHearts]

This was an amazing video and explained a lot! Thank you! I grew up on the gameboy MfOmT, and played it so many times... the remake is awesome, but I'm just not a fan of the walking animation during cutscenes. Seems... eh, but I love everything else. I loved Magical Melody and didn't mind the characters, just wished they had a sprint button. xD I hope we get a remake of that! Other than that, as much as I love farming games... Stardew Valley wasn't interesting to me. I did not get harvest moon vibes from it at all, and didn't like the events in the game, the marriage candidates and so on. Sorry to hate on it, but I'm also not a fan of mouse clicking games either.

[@vtea]

Thanks for watching! The characters/events are probably the weakest part of stardew and it definitely has its flaws, s no worries if it's not your cup of tea!

[@Ghost-ul8eu]

As someone who bought the game around launch I would say it was worth every to relive the nostalgia,the original FOMT was my favorite Harvest Moon game in the series back then,but I have some problems with some of the changes brought to the remake. 1.The new animal heart breeding system is awful:This is a really unnecessary change added to the remake why couldn't they just leave it as it was in the original. 2.Experimental Cooking is gone:Another unnecessary change added I liked experimental cooking now we just follow the recipes to the letter. 3:The character art changes:This doesn't bother me as much as when this game was revealed I have gotten over some of the changes,but im not completely on board with some of the character changes. Other then those issues I have I think the remake improves many things over the original such as adding elevators to mining,a bigger inventory to work with,WALKING THROUGH CROPS!!! I wish this game would have gotten more new content though,im happy it's pretty faithful to the original,and doesn't shoehorn in combat like Stardew Valley did I like the mines being simple.I called this game better then Stardew Valley last year,but I don't agree with that anymore,I was riding nostalgia high at the time.I don't think in 2021 that I consider FOMT to be the best in the farming sim genre anymore,its pretty barebones now compared to recent farming sim games,but hey it's a remake of a 20 year old game,this game is a pretty important piece of history and embodies what made the Harvest Moon games so great in the first place.

[@Mari_Izu]

I actually like that the characters look drastically different because now they don't look like they're Harvest Moon 64 characters with families and personalities swapped xD

[@gebbygebbers]

That mining polish was already in animal parade w

[@gaminglulunightmare6092]

I think the best way to combat the problem of rivals marrying love interest is that no one can get married until the player does. This prevents people being locked out from their chosen love interest (especially if they're slow on dating them) but also keeps the progression for the rivals to marry aswell. I think that would be the best compromise and it makes sense cus once the player marries a love interest there's no divorce feature like Stardew Valley so it makes sense to me.

[@vtea]

Crazy how something so simple could completely remedy this issue, but nah, its less effort to just remove rival marriages entirely.

[@gaminglulunightmare6092]

@@vtea I'm honestly surpsied you commented. Lol but yeah sometimes devs dont think about these kinds of things. I never though it till now mainly cus I didnt know it was an issue in the first place. I never had a problem with rivals marrying their love interests even when I was a kid (though I did kind of get jealous. LOL) especially magical melody and AWL. My chosen partner was Jamie for MM and I hate to say it sometimes but on AWL I chose Rock because he flirted and I didnt know I could marry Marlin or Gustafa cus I couldn't read too well and never looked at the instruction manual for the game. Gotta love being a kid, it's a wonder how I even made it to year two married. 😂

[@pkmasterjt4899]

Made it to mythic ore within the first few days and it turned out there was a glitch that made it where it straight up didn't spawn in the NA version for the first few MONTHS of release. Had to drop the game until it was patched and it set a really bad halt on my want to play it afterwards. I LOVE the new game, the originals rival events made the game feel more natural though. I miss watching the lives in the town grow and continue on alongside my own. Plus, it made leaving Rick forever alone feel SO much more satisfying. Him being the ONLY one single just felt satisfying.

[@Mito383]

SoS:FoMT did add some significant quality of life features that were great to have. 2 bag slots at the start of HM:FoMT was atrocious, for example. However, I’m not crazy about many of the character redesigns and it sucks that they removed rival marriages.

[@pikachu3988]

Omg I love your content. It's so cuuuuuuute

[@TaiJohnson216]

My favorite goal in ToT and AP was to get as many of the rival marriages as possible, so i am very sad to see that gone :/

[@41tinman41]

Damn, lots of good ideas here. I've been meaning to buy this game since I played the Back to Nature when it came out. I've never been more on the fence after this game, but maybe if Marvelous listened enough they'd make something completely game-changing in farming sims.