Is Suella Braverman shielded from stronger criticism due to her race? | LBC

[@dannythorne4133]

So, I'm a white male from what I think is a fairly average background. I'm confused by this issue a little. What I find really strange is that the Conservative party front bench looks very diverse but acts like a white supremacy gang

[@Coelacanth1]

Perhaps it was purposeful; to enable what would not normally be tolerated

[@michalovesanime]

White supremacy isn't just for white people.. White supremacy is about power and the culture of that power.. These brown and black people see themselves as better than the rest of us, they see themselves as the exception, the special class that will have a different set of standards.. They usually also don't like the poor..

[@jayplay8140]

"acts" is right, they are performing for a certain audience

[@FormulaProg]

Hahajaajaj white supremacy in a country that forces black people down our throats in every single industry have a day off pal

[@alandraper7901]

If you look carefully, you will find they are not all white. They are pretty diverse, more so than the labour front bench I would suggest.

[@matt99is]

The ethnicity of the last two home secretaries is not coincidental.

[@moonshine9902]

Agreed. The non whites politicians work harder to show they are not soft on refugees. And they are not criticised as they are people pleasing the majority.

[@MHORASHTY]

Almost as obvious is 'Working Class Bloke' Lee Anderson.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

​@@MHORASHTY Was Anderson a "working class bloke", when he was a Labour MP?.

[@smon4164]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Nope, just a pound shop snake oil salesman.

[@135Ops]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 You're not very bright are you!

[@brianarmstrong3731]

Baroness Warsi has done everyone a great service by speaking out like this from the position she holds. She truly is my hero of the week

[@buxey494]

What a berk

[@SDW3-6-9]

​@@Joeblogs999 Plus warsi never said anything about the deplorable treatment of minorities in Pakistan in her rant which did have some useful points too😂

[@matthewtaylor7355]

WARSI IF HOME SECRETARY WUD B THE SAME WAKE UP BRIAN

[@daftdigital]

She's one of the main reasons we're in this mess as country, never trust a tory.

[@brianarmstrong3731]

@@daftdigital I don't. But credit when credit is due, she called out Braverman.

[@Azphreal]

He accidently wore a Britain first t-shirt but that does not explain why he owned it and they do not seem to be mentioning that the council asked them to take them down years ago and they refused to take them down. Then add in that they are hanging from their necks. I bet if people started to send them to Braverman she would soon have the police involved. There has been a long standing problem with historically immigrant families 'Pulling up the ladder' after themselves wen it comes to new immigrants.

[@user-qg1jb8rw8e]

Literally hanging by the hairs upon their chins. Shall be enteraining to see them crash within the next year and hlf but must admit i wish each niight to watch them being removed by HRHKingCharlesIII and banished by NATO and all connections to them!

[@chatham43]

....evidence of this...anyway these are economic chancers and so your post isn't relevant here.....

[@brendansparks1511]

@@chatham43 Ye ol troll using yet another username.

[@BigHenFor]

​@@chatham43 That means Suella Braverman is an economic chancer. That means your government and country is one full of economic chancers. Everyone working for a wage is by definition an economic chancer. Do you realise that? They try and find work that will provide enough money to meet their needs and ambitions. Any economic relationship is contingent, contractual, and reflects the power dynamics between the parties. And it's the people involved who makes that work out well or not.

[@Greyrabbit22]

Thats not an issue limited to individuals. Nation states have a long history of doing exactly that.

[@billyhughes805]

Braverman is a dangerous combination of thick, deluded, overtly ambitious and I am going to say, she's an utter sociopath and she will say whatever needs to be said to appeal to her core base.

[@anonomous8719]

Because she’s an immigrant?

[@chatham43]

....and what's your core base....?

[@billyhughes805]

@@chatham43 Not the one we share.

[@andrewdudson7750]

Labour is even more dangerous

[@chrissilver7719]

You nailed it.

[@ShiftyGeeza]

Baroness Warsis' description of Suella Braverman being a "Trump Tribute Act" just nailed it for me.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

Trump has massive support among the black population. Always has.

[@leeeastwood6368]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068, where in the USA is this massive black support?

[@dorothydotson7154]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 That's hilarious and completely untrue. We do have a few "Uncle Toms". He's not even particularly popular with white people anymore. The "shine" is gone for most.

[@dorothydotson7154]

@@leeeastwood6368 Nowhere! We have a few well-known outliers who will turn on their race for money but black citizens are not in favor of Trump and in fact it's black voters that put Biden in office.

[@weswheel4834]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Not sure how that's relevant to Shifty's comment, but okay.

[@Coelacanth1]

Well done to Baroness Sayeeda Warsi for licensing the rightful consideration of the racism being described for I was wondering what was causing the punditry to stay so silent on the matter, when nothing has caused them to be so silent before.

[@alphasubscription6741]

Absolutely right. As a brown person I agree with you 100%. If the same statement was made by a white fellow.. the entire media would have gone crazy. And I do agree that no one should make such hateful statement

[@cpuuk]

Reminds me of those people who were bullied at school by a gang of kids, then somehow were offered a (low) place in the gang, on the understanding that they would join in with the bullying of the next kid.

[@xMrjamjam]

Thats exactly how narcissistic abuse systems or narcissistic families operate, the scapegoat is given a role as an abuser as long as the abusers get to scapegoat the former scapegoats children. They are truly evil and disgusting beings who understand that their behaviour is wrong but they do it regardless because they know theyll weasel their way out through lies and manipulation.

[@ellismeah8110]

Sounds very much like a left wing thing all part of the indoctrin I guess

[@joseirimia]

And you find out that those who were bullied, now are the most vicious bullies when given the opportunity.

[@tariq_sharif]

And therein, so eloquently, you have described the caste system that is foundational faith of the Hindu / Buddist ... clever you .. (or alternatively you deserve to be bullied if you are born low caste because you must have been vile and sinful in an earlier life and conversely you should have privilege oto bully others if you are high caste, because you must have been virtuous in a previous life)

[@eviled2006]

@@joseirimia Yep, just look at Israel.

[@timoakley277]

Certainly some of the language from Patel and Braverman would not have been out of place at a 1970s NF rally!

[@chatham43]

....you went to them then...and thats OK...because we live in a democracy...😊

[@markwilliams2620]

​@@chatham43 You subscribe to Farrage and the Canadian pill popper. You laugh at your own jokes and enjoy the smell of your own farts.

[@timoakley277]

@@chatham43 I saw them on telly. I was only about 13 at the time!

[@adambb22]

Left wing open border loony

[@FullFact548]

​@chatham43 We live in a democracy but spreading racial hatred is also a crime.

[@TubeTreasure2]

Yes, and if we don't stand up to her which group will she come for next.

[@chatham43]

...I know it's a low bar but you can do better than this surely....

[@adambb22]

U mean the group that are trying to do best by OUR country and stop illegals coming here or would u just rather OUR country be overrun they them??

[@robertgalloway3771]

Reminds me of PUTIN where next? The GOVERNMENTS handing over to big business to make shed loads of money, even oil slicks in Scotland,s seas, does not matter to greedy Westminster!!. Once Westminster has handed over Scotland,s resources all that remains for Westminster is to waste the tax money or hoard it. Countries fooled into thinking that England is generous and concerned, when in reality Scotland is handing out the help, including financial aid, Scotland gets NOTHING FROM THESE DEVIOUS DEALS. SCOTLAND TO BE KEPT PRISONER UNTIL LIKE JOHNSON EVERYTHING SPAFFED!!

[@lemsdarkapprentice2535]

yep, "First they came for the Communists, but I did not speak out, because I was not a Communist..." such a sad way this country is going under the Tories

[@bigsmoke4568]

No wonder the Kenyans and Ugandans didn't want her

[@clivecosta-correa2102]

If you're referring to Braverman, just for the record, Christie Fernandes (her father) was not "virtually kicked out" of Kenya. Like many from the Goan community in Kenya, his family left the country in the years following independence; his siblings elected to go to Goa (India); he chose to come to the UK. In all her narratives - verbal or written - Braverman is deliberately vague on this because she has no choice but to obfuscate; she knows it would otherwise be an outright lie.

[@runlarryrun77]

Idi Amin was a crackpot for sure, but we're starting to see why he did what he did there.

[@roveruff3360]

That's why her and Patel have an agenda

[@pablodelnorte9746]

This sounds like lefty racism to me.

[@clivecosta-correa2102]

@@pablodelnorte9746 Kindly elaborate, substantiate.

[@paulkerr2654]

Shes proof that the movie Get Out was more documentary than fiction

[@darrenengland6269]

On the surface, racism is about skin colour. But deep down it's about the colour of their/your heart.

[@ThomasKing19933]

No one should be protected from criticism because of their skin colour or race. The Rwanda plan is cruel and no one will stop me saying it.

[@problemofcommons775]

Rwanda plan is great, they're so welcoming there.

[@leighparr7961]

Nobody cares what you say lol, this sad little echo chamber is only representative of a tiny minority of far left losers. I'm neither left or right but the next government will be Reform and will "rub your noses in Englishness".

[@andrewdudson7750]

She says what the working class people want to hear, Labour do not work for the working class anymore

[@undisputedtruth2075]

really? How many Refugees are you giving shelter to in your own home ?

[@ThomasKing19933]

@@undisputedtruth2075 how many are you sheltering?

[@Essex-ux4zv]

P.O.C have always known and experienced this phenomena. In Britain they call such people coconuts brown on the outside and white inside. Meaning they advance in society through an internalization of the dominant in this case white ideology. These individuals don't identity with the struggles of other POC rather the see themselves as the model immigrant and inherently superior. The PM is Hindu and comes from a context that rigidly maintains the caste system. I don't think he will lose much sleep over policies that exacerbate the situation of the marginalized and vulnerable in society.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

"the struggles of POC". Do me a favour.

[@Gringos007]

completely correct, not a lie was told

[@Cbricklyne]

We have a "C" word for them here in North America as well among black Americans.

[@oblodoblodob]

​@@trytellingthetruth.2068 What is it about the reference to the struggles of POC that you object to and request to receive special favours for? Can't differential opportunities and outcomes in employment, health and criminal justice be considered struggles if one is more likely to face them solely on the basis of skin colour. Which word would you prefer for this statistically documented and officially acknowledged phenomenon? Should we call it something else, if it upsets you? Or do you, on the contrary, reject such evidence, and if so, might your moniker about telling the truth be invoking a rather peculiar notion of truth that rejects reason and evidence?

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

@@oblodoblodob The racial discrimination act is there to ensure no such struggles are allowed. If you have proof that people have been discriminated against purely on the basis of the skin colour, then those responsible should be reported. I do however know of one instance where someone was passed over for a job because of their skin colour. He was white and the company offering the job had to ensure POC were equally represented. So because of that, the black gentleman who was less qualified, got the job. Swings and roundabouts spring to mind.

[@maggiepie8810]

It's not weird at all. It's the "I'm nothing like the rest of my ethnicity, gender, etc"-syndrome.

[@JS-fi7fl]

An old comedy called Goodness Gracie Me used to have a skit on that. Two brown couples arguing over who was the most English and the least Indian. It was a play on the inferiority complex a lot of British asians had and how desperate they were to fit in.

[@KS1TV]

​@@JS-fi7fl Loved that program, 100% that skit nailed it

[@rw4754]

It has to do with class also...and 'I am alright, Jack, selfishness.' Obama explained about folks who were fortunate to escape or migrate to USA for economic benefit & then kick the door shut behind them.

[@maggiepie8810]

@@rw4754 Oh, definitely, and also class related in the sense that people who grow up a bit too affluent for their own psychological development's best don't always learn empathy.

[@rw4754]

@@maggiepie8810 I was raised in East Africa and there was a lot of kick down to rise up 'aspirational' nouveau riche types. People who had to prove they were better than those 'lower' folks. They drove Mercedes Benz to show they were 'All That'. Servants were exploited and treated with contempt. Hence they are still referred to today in Swahili as "WaBenzis" - those who drive in their Mercedes Benz. Just like white people can treat 'other/lower' white people with contempt. Eton types are taught to be contemptuous. (Ismailis, followers of the Agha Khan were not like this in general)

[@ramel684]

It's noticable that she hasn't said anthing bad about people of her own ethnicity. Her parents are from India, she's attacked Pakistani men and been dismissive of sybmbols of racism against people from Africa.

[@problemofcommons775]

Where are the Indian r22pe gangs in the UK.? Can show you plenty pakistani ones

[@permabear6025]

Maybe because most Indians contributed to UK very well, unlike most (not all) Pakistanis and Africans.

[@tcritt]

​@@permabear6025 I found one, guys.

[@chatham43]

....thought Rwanda was in Africa....😊😂😂😂

[@clivecosta-correa2102]

@@permabear6025 As a Kenyan Asian, first arrived in UK in 1972, I call Balderdash.

[@quickclipsbyjmj]

Yes, she is. Thank you again to Baroness Warsi for saying what people are thinking.

[@TheMercWithMouth]

You do realise this goes much deeper. MPs from Hindu background Vs those from Muslim background. Just wish simply those who do wrong are dealt with regardless of religion.

[@smeshfactory3992]

@@TheMercWithMouth Hindus have always been seen as colonial boot lickers no matter their social standing.

[@leighparr7961]

Look at the pathetic views this loser gets lol, hardly what "people are thinking" more like what silly little woke children have been taught to parrot, come back when you grow up by which time the adults will have dealt with this invasion.

[@chatham43]

....you mean the north London twitterati....or real people....?

[@ian_b5518]

For me it is simple. Just listen to what they say. Remember when TMay said 'Citizens of Nowhere'. That told me she/conservatives didn't consider me a citizen because I didn't agree with them.

[@nik-ev3eh]

Norman tebbit on cricket

[@BigHenFor]

Absolutely.

[@chatham43]

....your logic needs an urgent overhaul....😊

[@jamesfnolan6516]

Instead of immegrent you could say an indian/Pakistani /Nigerian ex pat. That's what UK immegrents call themselves when they move abroad.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

Learn to spell. There is no excuse, both your phone and your computer even correct it for you...

[@peace-now]

Exactly. When you arrive of the boat, just say you are an ex-pat.

[@frankbrennan1619]

Immegrent & immegrents????????????

[@colincampbell4261]

Immigrants maybe?

[@peace-now]

@@frankbrennan1619 O dear. The spelling police have arrived.

[@sunnygindian2263]

Hit the nail on the head James, You are absolutely right.

[@chatham43]

....except when he's comically wrong....which is sadly quite often these days....

[@middleman9183]

@@chatham43 yep

[@richardhands904]

​@@chatham43 citation please

[@royboy1901]

No he isn’t ,why do you think countries have borders

[@michaelmccarthy9411]

Baroness Warsi has proved herself a totally courageous person. If she was prime minister there would still be hope

[@vincekerrigan8300]

Baroness Warsi is racism personified. She is evil.

[@pablodelnorte9746]

There's a small problem. She's never actually been elected to any of the posts she's held. She's just a very privileged token Muslim.

[@danmayberry1185]

Drawbridge mentality. Now that I've arrived, lower the bridge so more of me can't come.

[@jeffsimon9594]

Arrived by legal routes

[@135Ops]

@@jeffsimon9594 The Tories have closed most of the legal routes! So now almost everyone is illegal. Congrats on missing the point.

[@chatham43]

@SS.......so open all the legal routes...and all the illegal economic migrant boats will stop coming....you really haven't thought this serious problem through have you..?

[@suzyqualcast6269]

Don't you mean 'raise the' ?

[@danmayberry1185]

@@suzyqualcast6269 I was thinking of the nautical purpose.

[@margueritaclunis8170]

I think most black people are fed up of being told that they are playing the race card. So now they have distance themselves from commenting on anything to do with it. They will speak of it within their own friends and family group but will hardly ever called it out in public anymore. The show was great and I love the comments from all the people who spoke the truth. Also I love the answer about the screws from your question and answer section.

[@davidwhatever9041]

i guess she is just so desperate to be accepted by her peers, unfortunately for her, no matter what she does for them they will always hate her behind a mask of tolerance. just checked, she's another broken public school child inflicting her trauma on the rest of us, rather like johnson, cameron, Kwarteng, mogg to name a few of the broken

[@chatham43]

....didn't James go to public school too...?

[@davidwhatever9041]

@@chatham43 and?

[@room920renalforlife]

Kind of refreshing to see the Britain has the same race issues as we in the USA. Shows that we black people aren’t imagining it like we’re often told. Yes, we also have immigrants who come here, then their children get into a position of power then they become followers of white supremacist ideology. They are most often conservatives. Peculiar how to conserve means to remain the same, unchanging. Yet they’re able to emigrate to the USA because lot of black people and white progressives fought for the change. It’s like they don’t understand or don’t care that the people that they show the most contempt for are the ones who made it possible for them to come here. Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, etc are the children of immigrants who are in the USA because of efforts of the black people that they show disdain for.

[@wleon4068]

Well said, ADT.

[@makumbele]

Her rhetoric can be understood from the point view of self hate projected towards people who look similar. This is a strong way to pull yourself, delusional as it is, from your own ethnicity towards that you think you are, and you want to be. I'm curious to know what box she would tick when asked about her ethnicity.

[@assifkhan3803]

If there was a box for daily caste.she would tick that boxThe occupation of sanitation work is intrinsically linked with caste in India. All kinds of cleaning are considered lowly and are assigned to people from the lowest rung of the social hierarchy. In the caste-based society, it is mainly the Dalits who work as sanitation workers - as manual scavengers, cleaners of drains, as garbage collectors and sweepers of roads.[6]: 4  It was estimated in 2019 that between 40 and 60 percent of the 6 million households of Dalit sub-castes are engaged in sanitation work.[6]: 5  The most common Dalit caste performing sanitation work is the Valmiki (also Balmiki) caste.[6]: 3she has forgotten her past

[@manpreetbrar838]

​@@assifkhan3803 she is cleaning up Europe for the nazis

[@MsBimbobear]

Internalised racism.

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

Raab is a descendant of a Czech refugee? As I Czech, I do apologise for this creature's existence!

[@timothysmart8528]

Is he the son of a refugee? Really? He never mentions it 😂

[@michaelsproat3363]

His father died when he was a child, which is very sad, perhaps not in your eyes.

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

@@michaelsproat3363 It is sad, but that doesn't excuse anyone from being so... Nasty!

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

@@timothysmart8528 I did not believe it at first, had to Google it. It is true, son of a refugee that came to UK in 1939 when a part of the CZ was "gifted" to Germany

[@timothysmart8528]

@@nothereandthereanywhere I was being sarcastic - like Braverman and Patel, Raab tells you every 5 minutes that he’s the son of refugees

[@FullFact548]

Rather than attempt to brand all Pakistani men for the actions of a few, Braverman should acknowledge the huge service and sacrifice men of South Asian origin, Indian, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi, made fighting for Britain in the two world wars. Pakistani forces today play a key role as UN Peacekeepers, putting their own lives in danger in some of the world’s most unstable countries.

[@davidz3879]

It's not a few. The many grooming gangs have had thousands of members. It's a cultural-religious problem, not merely a few bad apples.

[@ramaan1]

Except Pakistan or Bangladesh did not exist during the two world wars so moot point. India has double the number UN peace keepers than Pakistan, nit to mention: the world's most wanted terrorist Bin Laden was found in Pakistan, less than 10 miles away from that country's military base. Please dont encourage sleeping with the devil.

[@John1873--]

What actions?

[@FullFact548]

Involvement in grooming gangs, which, whilst appalling, was not a true representation of British Pakistani men in the UK, as Suella Braverman tried to imply.

[@amenhotepthethird209]

Anyone looking for a definition of the word "sellout" Cruella Braverman is it.

[@richlk9901]

Is suella Pakistani?

[@richlk9901]

@Jack Smith at least they wortgy

[@paramotorhead]

Easy mistake, I got out of my bed this morning, fumbled around half awake getting dressed, only to find when fully awake, I’d put on full SS battle dress, complete with swastikas. Silly me.

[@Dreyno]

In and of itself, it’s slightly troubling that you happened to have the uniform lying around. But of more immediate concern was the MP40 and the fact that after you left the house, you boarded the bus to Golders Green.

[@joemann2178]

Obvious why the tories were desperate to have her as home secretary.

[@katakisLives]

Priti Patel did the same thing (to a lesser extent)

[@vm5954]

Actually the same

[@VARMOT123]

Indian is not a race . It is a mish mash of gazillion ethnicities . She is half Tamil mauritian and half Goan Christian .

[@garrysimpson1395]

Our home sectary could not even answer the Sir Mo Farah question.

[@papayims]

The Home Secretary is what you call a Coconut 🥥

[@justinw6670]

Or Bounty bar..

[@franklingoodwin]

I'm surprised these are still here 😂

[@justinw6670]

@@franklingoodwin Just goes to show the world is run by large nuts and sweeties!!

[@chatham43]

....me too....but she's a Tory so I guess it's open season sadly...😕

[@flyagaric23]

For me, one of the most important episodes to help untangle the race-identity-nationality paradox, and counter the Tory weapons of culture war.

[@damienhowell3727]

That woman needs to be binned. Even field mice have more compassion for life than she does smh truly outrageous

[@sharonmccalla9924]

Cannot stand that woman she does not look after people of colour she is hiding behind the far right so they leave her alone.

[@bradwhelan4466]

They are also smarter than any leftist I've met.

[@ednabeckwith8185]

Love you so much James and your family❤❤

[@jawsjaws4018]

@Tom Exactly 💯!!!!

[@theweatherman1874]

Thank you James,I agree with Baroness Warsis comments and Braverman is not fit for high office.

[@anthonysokolsky6210]

Baroness Warsi is an anti Semite!

[@engineeredlifeform]

I haven't been much of a fan lof Warsi over the years, but slowly she's growing on me. She's admitted she's made mistakes and seems to be on the right side these days. I feel a little odd about that, but she's defo right here.

[@theweatherman1874]

@@engineeredlifeform Totally agree with you,I was never a fan either

[@wleon4068]

@@engineeredlifeform I never liked her at all. However, she seems to have changed a lot...for the better.

[@jasonk7072]

The comments about Sunak are particularly interesting to me. Baroness Warsi suggests he looked uncomfortable when asked about this rhetoric and I think she’s right, he doesn’t seem as happy to go down this route as many of his colleagues. But he is still going down this route which suggests to me that Sunak is not in charge of his cabinet at all. I get the impression that he’s been allowed to be PM as long as he doesn’t interfere with the real task in hand, the one Braverman has been put up to execute. The country is being run by people in the shadows, Braverman is the agent and Sunak is the enabler.

[@M4tt888_]

Sunak knows a powerful portion of his mps and a majority of the members don't want him and they can sink his leadership of they want, by making him a lame duck if they don't just try and oust him officially. So he is weak and needs to pander to them and Braverman is their favourite right now. He is weak but that doesn't excuse him for going along with it

[@jackjude]

Her immediate re-installation as Home Sec. on RS's move into No10. certainly nods to this.

[@daftdigital]

@Jason K So the elites are actually in charge not these puppets?? So shocked...

[@davidvaughan4480]

James is part of the problem he admits,credit to him,that he treats people of colour differantly .Until we stop seeing colour and making these judgements we can never be equal.

[@michaelmayo3127]

Most of the brown people in the UK's government; and especially those with Indian backgrounds, have all been children of those elite Indians, that were installed by the British administration to administer the UK's African colonies. These British Indian administrator, were both versed in state and commercial administration. Their objective was to make the UK's African colonies grow and tame the local natives. However, WW2 and the subsequent independence of the UK's colonies, upset the UK's colony strategy and most of the Indian administrator im/migrated; not to India but, to the UK. And Braverman, Patel and Sunak are all children of this former Indian-African elites. So you can draw your own conclusion when it comes to Braverman's altitude to the plight of refugees.

[@Abmotsad]

Is Suella Braverman shielded from stronger criticism due to her race? Let me help you out here: YES. Braverman is an obedient little brown house girl. She has found a nice little niche; she knows there is always a spot for the complicit. I'm tired of people like her (and Sunak, and Clarence Thomas, and Kwarteng, and Nikki Haley, etc.) not being called out simply because they are of the race that they seek to oppress. Braverman would see every brown person in the world in a cage if it meant her income went up 1%.

[@wleon4068]

You are absolutely right.

[@mpexiumltd3054]

Well said and written!

[@nick1065]

Obsessed by race is O’Brien.

[@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419]

Biting insight there.

[@BigHenFor]

​@@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419 Where?

[@Gdwmartin]

The way I would have handled Ms Braverman is to dismiss her ethnicity altogether as it's irrelevant in the context of her actions. It's her behavior that is the problem, and her behavior she should be called out on, full stop. It doesn't matter where your family came from or if your black, brown or green with purple spots, bad behavior is bad.

[@trinicatalan4293]

You main need to treat her as a member of her class,supporting the policies that benefit her social class. I think the concept of class would clarify some of this confusion .She is defending her privileged position in the conservative government.

[@smahier]

The Britain First tee-shirt was just an unfortunate accident. On that day his Insulate Britain and Free Nelson Mandela tees simply happened to be in the wash.

[@funkhouse5936]

That's why she has got the job.

[@taxineil1]

I've met plenty of refugees and asylum seekers over the years and have been shocked how some of them,after receiving status,are so negative towards others seeking status.Its only a handful,but nevertheless it is awful.

[@BigHenFor]

You have to understand one thing. People who do that are insecure. They should be pitied.

[@Coelacanth1]

To consider if folk are fleeing war, do you think it would be logical to despise the enemy? As to understand we're currently being coached to despise both the Russians and the Chinese.

[@felixmbandandayitabi4536]

Unfortunately, being a refugee, doesn't makes of someone a compassionate person immediately.

[@tariq_sharif]

I wonder if her actions are in any way informed by her background of privilege and religious theology ...

[@chatham43]

....James's certainly are...😊

[@ancientmewtb]

Can you point to which part of her 'religious theology' would account for her actions?

[@jkmcgregor7797]

@Pierre In You mean the groomers from Walsall and Wolverhampton All 21 were white native english christian groomers influenced by christian ideals .age of consent is not in the bible

[@funkhouse5936]

Your question do I think Mrs Warsi is right Oh lorddddddddddddddddddd she is so right Lets forget the color of her skin , she is in that position as a Minister as she is doing the party faithfuls bidding I am of Nigerian heritage I have to be hypnotised to vote or support Kemi I will go as far as saying mentally unstable to even raise my voice as a supporter 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The observer is soo wrong and you are right , I am close to 60 and proud to describe myself as a son of an immigrant .

[@davidpeacock40]

The fact that someone like baroness Wasi sounds sensible illustrates just how far to the right the tories have lurched

[@MrPiccolop]

​@@davidpeacock40 100%

[@Coelacanth1]

@@davidpeacock40 Lurched ? More like ' gleefully trotted ' - in line with the America they have stated moving closer to.' The America 'as opposed to America for their interest is Red State America, where the dark money is flowing from. What wouldn't Tories do for money?

[@kathleenswift7979]

And it's true what Braverman said about the groomers, how can anyone deny it.

[@PanglossDr]

I have asked my black and Asian friends how they feel about a range of terms. While this is not a scientific survey I prefer to be guided by what they told me than by politically correct or by white supremacists, both of whom I perceive as extremely prejudiced.

[@fabianking997]

I assume being a minority they probably want to fit in with the work culture and, not stand out. They will therefore tell you what you want to hear. 😂😅

[@swanchamp5136]

Have you tried just using people's names when talking to them?

[@osazebacchus-oum1298]

I don't see how seeing as we let Boris Watermelon Smile Pigininy Johnson slide we would rock the boat at all about a white Home Secretary saying what Suella said at all. Bigotry isn't just allowed, it's celebrated.

[@brianhotaling5849]

that’s why she was put in, wasn’t it?

[@julielevinge266]

& Patel too!!

[@ScragNath]

Idiot.

[@disaffectedmale]

Wow, I see you've had some college.

[@1Carly]

She thinks she is white though.

[@matthewtrow5698]

We do need to also remember Priti Patel - and how Braverman is absolutely a "continuity" of this rhetoric and strategy - surely no coincidence... And yes, I think Warsi is right. This is a thorny issue if, as you say James, are trying to figure it all out as a white person. It's walking on egg shells. You feel you have no right to have a stance on the issue. I've seen, read and heard many things in my life that I could never say publicly for that very reason. Suffice and sad to say, racism exists in all cultures and all races.

[@AlejandroMonteagudo]

Prety much... just like Patel.

[@mariam6822]

Your truth, your painful honesty is what keeps me coming back to your channel

[@bfc2155]

Really 😂😂😂😂😂 fml

[@helenlinnell6108]

Braverman is not sheltered from criticism at all. She and the PM absolutely act from a position of internalised racism.

[@missxsoph1]

I've always thought that Baroness Warsis comes across very level headed and It's hard to believe and also just a shame she's a Tory

[@bfc2155]

A Muslim woman trying to put a stop to Muslim men committing crime

[@fridajaspers6066]

When in 2020, during the BLM protests, protestors here in Bristol pulled down the statue of Edward Colston and threw it into the harbour, I as a white European (not Brit, but here since 1991) rejoiced at the act and marvelled at the symbolism of it all. Since then, quite an awkward conversation with another white Bristolian who argued it was vandalism ensued, he said Bristol owes a lot to Colston in terms of the man's historic endowments. I had lived in Colston Street, next door to Colston Hall and Colston Tower, walked past Colston's High school for Girls and had walked past that statue thousands of times without a moment's thought about what it meant to people of colour who also walk past that statue, that school, that street. And perhaps I should keep shtum. But then I remembered what encouraged me at the time was who protested at the time: they were white, black, brown, old, young, people fed up all across the board. It's not the skin colour, it's about justice.

[@chatham43]

....didn't they go to prison for the mindless vandalism or did their rich parents get them off...?

[@marvintpandroid2213]

@@chatham43 Can you show me where someone, of any age, any skin colour or family background, went to jail for vandalism?

[@globalist1990]

@@marvintpandroid2213 are you implying their rich parents got them off the hook?

[@problemofcommons775]

@@globalist1990 Probably their race got them off

[@marvintpandroid2213]

@@globalist1990 no, exactly the opposite.

[@michaelgriffiths5723]

James 'I only like brown people who agree with me' O'Brian 😂

[@jimmyhun91]

He wasn't saying that though was he?

[@EnglishPatriot]

Sayeeda wartsi cares more about hurting the feelings of Pakistani rapists than British girls. She’s a fine one to talk about using ethnicity to cover up being absolutely useless .

[@jkmcgregor7797]

What about the white christian english groomers from Walsall and Wolverhampton over 21 convicted of child grooming

[@paulleonard1862]

At the end of the day, it's an horrendous, almost dystopian policy that the Tories are trying to persue. What counts here is ending it, no matter which deluded narcissist is cheer leading it through.

[@davidbarbero6212]

Ms Braverman's policies are popular with a lot of the British people. Carry on Suella.

[@martinohnenamen6147]

Completely agree, it absolutely pummels me what people with migration background like Patel and Braverman do and say.

[@jeffsimon9594]

IKR terrible when POCs stray off the leftist plantation is it not?

[@pablodelnorte9746]

Yes, Asian women should know their place and do what you think they should, shouldn't they?

[@Anduz001]

You might be white and you may not have experienced racism first hand, but the colour of your skin doesn't prevent you from understanding the definition of racism. I think this redefinition of racism being only possible from a white person to a person of colour is insidious as it opens the door to the now widely practiced occurrence of appalling comments openly directed at white people, for simply being white. The very thing we're told should never be done to judge a person based solely on their skin colour. You also mentioned the scenario of a black guy writing an article which contradicts your point of view and it being held up as the view of all black people. The irony being that this is exactly what is put forward in popular discourse in reverse, as if all people of colour think as some kind of uniformed hive mind. Everyone's an individual and the colour of your skin doesn't automatically mean you're for or against anything. Everyone should be respected equally, or at least based on merit.

[@Owlyross]

I did a summer job working on the parks for Thurrock Council back in the late 90s. I have never heard such vile racism coming out of the mouths of middle aged white men in my life as I had from some of my 'colleagues' there (including the W and C words relating to black people). Grays was on my patch. This is no surprise at all, and neither is the fact that the landlord of said pub joked about hanging black people in reference to the Gollywogs.

[@disaffectedmale]

Summer job, you must be a student. What a surprise. Pay some taxes for your whole life then you can have an opinion.

[@Owlyross]

@Disaffected Male you obviously didn't read the comment. I'm 44, the summer job was 25 years ago in the mid 90s, and I've been working and paying taxes since. I grew up in Thurrock. My family still live there but I've moved away.

[@louiscryblood.1494]

Is there a difference between the Indian caste system and British class system. Belonging nowhere is her problem. She might as well stand for the BNP, in the next election. No roots, no culture and norms. 😮

[@aituk]

And on and on the woke brigade go spewing their nonsense.

[@tariq_sharif]

Yep, agreed. Do you agree with me that as a society we should not discriminate against people because of their skin colour ? Yes ? ... are you certain you are not a member of the woke brigade ? Just asking for a friend

[@jzilla1234]

"Suella" is literally the offspring i expect from "the coopers" on goodness gracious me. Go ahead watch that sketch. Tell me I'm wrong.

[@FourLightsOfficial]

Forgot about them

[@blitzerblazinoah6838]

I liked the Coopers, they were well-meaning and keen to assimilate into British society. Perhaps they took it too far (which where most of the humour of these skits comes from), but they didn't go around committing crimes against minorities because of their ethnicity.

[@jzilla1234]

@@blitzerblazinoah6838 i bet YOU did

[@weswheel4834]

@@blitzerblazinoah6838 But they (the Coopers) treated assimilating into British society as a competition. I'm not sure that applies to Braverman but it was a funny comparison.

[@blitzerblazinoah6838]

@@jzilla1234 I see you in court for that vicious libelous slur.

[@crayontom9687]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck

[@FullFact548]

Don't forget that Suella Braverman is a former chair of the ERG. Irritational xenophobia runs in her blood.

[@Ricimer671]

Never mind her race, what species is she?

[@Testtesting]

Hahhh

[@chatham43]

....just scratch the surface of any lefty...beware of voting Labour because the racism won't go away....😊

[@twisteddancer7773]

​@@chatham43 Let them show their true colours. Judging by alot of other comments on this video there is alot of them about

[@myalfie]

O’Brien crying like a baby as usual throwing out the racial card as per usual it’s very tiresome!

[@johnrussell3961]

Focussing on the crimes of Pakistanis is very popular amongst Tory voting Indians….but it’s not racism evidently .

[@problemofcommons775]

Focusing on peoples skin colour when they're concern about mass migration is "not racism evidently". The stupidity of you people

[@MrFuckwit999]

I think that is religious discrimination rather than racism.

[@chatham43]

...is it...please elucidate...

[@agnescraig2912]

Please leave this excess baggage behind be it in India or Pakistan. This is the everyday rhetoric in India Hindu Muslim and her it is India Pakistan. This toxic rhetoric should be stymied

[@benstern310]

lol, what are your comments on David Lammy then? A politician and an employee of LBC.

[@terrysmith5168]

There is a comment made in this comment section that label's the home secretary as an Oreo , the replying comments references her being a coconut . That comment has lots of likes . My question is why does that r4cist comment remain up ?

[@twisteddancer7773]

Because it's said by someone on the left

[@georgepkoutsavakis8005]

Why is yours

[@terrysmith5168]

@@twisteddancer7773 Absolute hypocrites , I have to deliberately misspell words just to by pass the far left algorithm .

[@wobblywally-0]

​@@twisteddancer7773because KZbin has a political indicator bot which knows your views before you even type them? 😂 bit desperate pal 👍

[@twisteddancer7773]

@@wobblywally-0 Truth hurts doesn't it

[@ImCaptainCabbage]

Absolutely. If she was a middle aged white man she would have been seen in a much harsher light.

[@damianleah6744]

If it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

[@chatham43]

....then stop quacking....!😊

[@ryantate6447]

James o Brien logic at the start of only the victims of racism can define what racism is doesn't seem like a fair standard. So white people can never experience true racism as were the majority. What happens when we're a minority and a previous minority is the majority. Will the definitions be switched over ? Seems very confusing to me.

[@HelenaMikas]

Agree with you James...What do we do Boot Braverman who enjoys power by running with the hare and the hounds..

[@adambb22]

Aww is she trying to close the borders and u left wing loonies don’t like it… muppet

[@Horizon344]

IMMIGRATION REFERENDUM required.

[@greamespens1460]

I think that this is much to do with class than racism. A caller expressed that his middle class father shared those views even though he was a POC. I think his father looks down on those who are escaping France l

[@Cbricklyne]

Which must mean that she looks down on her own parents since she "claims" that they too "escaped" Kenya to immigrate to the UK. "claims" and "escaped" in quotes because of course, her claim is a lie. Kenya never "kicked" out East Indian people like Uganda under Idi Amin did.

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

Escaping France 😂. Is something happening in France?

[@greamespens1460]

@@chesterdonnelly1212 tongue in check joke.

[@greamespens1460]

@@Cbricklyne there are those who are embarrassed by their parents

[@SimonPlowman]

She's promoting hate. I beleave some far right extremist groups were banned . I believe the term was called proscribed. Can an individual be proscribed, after all She's promoting the same vile ideology

[@terrysmith5168]

That's the whole point James you see the home secretary as a potential victim and she simply does not .

[@permabear6025]

Classic self-loathing white liberal, constantly telling people who don’t see themselves as victims that they’re victims 😂

[@tenniskinsella7768]

Leave her alone people coming across the channel some are terrorists y dope

[@markunger1098]

No, in this case she’s the perpetrator.

[@nik-ev3eh]

Trumpolini style politics,childish junkyard dog.

[@mohmda4449]

Conflict over kashmir spreading into uk politics. Worse yet to come.

[@chatham43]

....explain....it you can.....😊

[@bayofbengal7170]

I like listening to James O’ Brian.

[@yorkiegilly4355]

I would - falling off a very high cliff ! . A ignorant ,arrogant - bully .

[@jeffsimon9594]

Delicious sarcasm. Well played

[@James_Doyle83]

​@@jeffsimon9594 delicious sarcasm well played

[@bfc2155]

Basically, theres been a huge very specific crime happening around one specific group of people that nobody wanted to touch. Now its being addressed, people are trying to stop it. Thats messed up

[@ang3lic07]

Spot on as always james...keep em coming.

[@middleman9183]

spot on but completely biased

[@wobblywally-0]

​@@middleman9183ohhh we got a dunkey clone 😂 I bet he's just nitpicking as well.

[@ang3lic07]

@@middleman9183 in what way?

[@laucoloma2264]

Child of an immigrant here. I'm currently not offended by this description as that's what I am. If I'm described as a person of colour then I'm generally more worried someone else will take offence. I mean, I'm a light brown, but as I'm frequently made aware I'm not a "real" brown by both sides of the colour divide. A lot of Syrians are whiter than me

[@hoopoverthehill]

So she is like the British version of Candace Owens.

[@rw4754]

We have lots of those in the USA on Fox.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

In 50 years Braverman and Enoch Powell will be said in the same breath.

[@hanskneesun123]

It's a curious thing, in the past when the argument has been about sexism and the callers have said "imagine if the tables were turned and a man had said this" James has gone out of his way to ridicule them, my view has always been that there is no exclusivity when it comes to prejudice, but the media seems to struggle with this concept.

[@agnescraig2912]

Prejudice and discrimination exists the world over. No person on this planet is immune from discrimination be skin colour, body shape, vertically challenged, bad teeth, hair colour and texture and the list is endless. Media has a problem because supporters and opponents never see the bigger picture. Lived in various countries and interacted with high and low society. In Nigeria they call each other the black one -was shell shocked to hear that. But there are shades of that colour too was my thought

[@BigHenFor]

​@@agnescraig2912 But you didn't take into account that Nigeria was colonised by white people either. And the impact of that doesn't go away when the colonisers allow it to become independent. Divide and Rule was always the strategy, and skin colour, especially when the colonisers had children with the colonisers, was an easy way to employ that strategy. Those standards become imprinted on cultural norms. This is why bleaching skin creams, that are carcinogenic, are used amongst people of colour, and the media, and society at large reinforces those beauty standards. In that sense, slavery and colonisation never ended, despite efforts by progressive people to challenge those ideas for decades. And it's killing people, as the attempt in the US to ban hair straightening products containing carcinogens and hormone disruptors is backed up by science. Human beings are complex creatures, but our nature can be weaponised against our own welfare. So, don't be surprised at what you experienced in Nigeria. Franz Fanon wrote about these issues in his books. You might find them enlightening.

[@derekmeller5873]

Surely the biggest problem with cruella, is how utterly horrible her policies are towards people. And she is supposed to be a people acting for people. Never mind colours. She is horrible to people. Lots of them. The ones that need the most help. And she seems to revel in ways to keep being horrible to people.

[@terrysmith5168]

James we get it it , you love diversity but only diversity that shares your own political opinion and worldview. We now have a PM, and home secretary of asian ancestry and your still not happy

[@TheDom277]

Oh Terry… not again. 😂 If you don’t understand the topic why keep coming back to the channel to show people you don’t understand? Like not understanding why news topics come and go in the media… 😂

[@mrman8388]

thats it....deflect and ignore. Why do you have problems focusing?

[@terrysmith5168]

​@@mrman8388 We now have a PM, home secretary, Mayor of London and a Scottish first Minister who all non white and of asian ancestry . Four of the most powerful people in this country are now non white and JOB still continuously bangs on about racism

[@terrysmith5168]

​@@mrman8388 James is just unhappy that there are actually lots of people of colour that don't actually think like he does 😂

[@chatham43]

...he'll never be happy...

[@thomasscullion9449]

The Tories have ran out of ideas and we in Scotland knew this decades ago, a smug party with smug ideas and i will continue to fight for my ancient nation to leave this UK and rejoin our European family as an independent nation. I do not dislike Brexit Britain ,it is much stronger than that

[@katakisLives]

Suella Braverman basically performs the same function for the right wing in the UK as someone like Candice Owens does in the US.

[@katakisLives]

@@p_ness Yeah, there's a very lucrative market for those who are willing to cover for right wing attitudes. (totally agree with your name btw)

[@problemofcommons775]

@@katakisLives Protests happening all over your beloved EU protesting these immigrants. Either thank or blame Merkal for inviting them in 2015

[@danmayberry1185]

Or the Blacks For Trump t-shirts at his rallies.

[@katakisLives]

@@danmayberry1185 Yeah,

[@chantelle6317]

Yes ive said it before but what if her parents were sent to Rwanda instead of being given a visa