Is SUZUKI finally updating the DRZ400 for 2025?

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chroniclesofsolid

chroniclesofsolid

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@ozyfran72
@ozyfran72 3 ай бұрын
The sticker designer must be so happy, he was alone in the DRZ RnD department for 25 years!!
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
😆
@jarredschatz7544
@jarredschatz7544 3 ай бұрын
😂
@chiliboom6140
@chiliboom6140 3 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful and perfect comment. I applaud you my friend.
@earingtonwhylly8242
@earingtonwhylly8242 3 ай бұрын
😂
@the_H369
@the_H369 3 ай бұрын
👍
@jefftaswelder9154
@jefftaswelder9154 3 ай бұрын
I would be OK if stuck with 5 gears, just make 1st , 2nd and 3rd closer and stretch 4th and 5th for better road riding 😀 😅🍺
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
👍🍻
@brianrahuba6919
@brianrahuba6919 3 ай бұрын
Exactly 1st 3 gears for off-road top 2 road gears . And still hoping they keep it ride by cable. I can't stand fly by wire . Modes I can care less about . Due to it's always set for full beans mode anyway . Rain mode ? really ! Radiator, I get it . But I'll give up some ponies not to have one . One thing I've learned less is better in the woods . On board computers, nah . Yeah, it's nice when it works . Only electronics I'm forced to have are abs shut off, and fuel injection keep the other crap . I don't need heated crap just to jack up a price and really I don't need abs as well . Motor, frame and all the other little things that holds this stuff together that we call a bike is all what is needed. Keep the tech and put a suspension on it for crying out loud ....
@russperry3000
@russperry3000 3 ай бұрын
Agree with the gearing - 5 is fine if they stretch 4th and 5th. I’d also want a bigger fuel tank as stock.
@stevethompson1060
@stevethompson1060 3 ай бұрын
@aderiley6592
@aderiley6592 3 ай бұрын
@brianrahuba6919 agreed. 5 gears with stretched top 2 or 6 if you must Suxuki, Showa suspension fully adjustable front and rear, bigger tank, and just keep it simple. No to unnecessary electronics or distracting multi-coloured, touch screen dash. They could stick analogue dials on it for me as long as it's bullet proof reliable, easy to work on, and priced right 🙏
@MotoVania
@MotoVania 3 ай бұрын
I’m a Honda guy, but 6 gears and EFI would really make me interested in this
@cac2244
@cac2244 3 ай бұрын
I was about to pull the trigger on a KLX300 so i'll wait to see if the DRZ400 will be an option. As you mentioned, EFI, 6 speed and switchable ABS and that would hit my sweet spot, if the weight is right.
@joshdoddadbod
@joshdoddadbod 3 ай бұрын
Yup if they keep it at 320lbs should be good
@stevebond2627
@stevebond2627 3 ай бұрын
I got the 1st DRZ “S” model to hit my dealer in June of 2000. After break in, added RaceTech suspension (SX spring rate!), emulators, & valving. Then Yosh pipe, cam & igniter box w/ Wiseco piston & jet kit. RM “tall” seat foam & high Pro-taper bars to fit me & called it good! 24 years later, the DS world has changed drastically, & I’ve done it All on this bike. Multiple “Alpine Loops”(once two up!), Super-Moto wheels in 2004, but nothing compares to beating your Arkansas Dirt Rider club members on the AHRMA grass track race course, that I got to lay out with the late, great Dick Mann! R.I.P.!
@cyclopathic998
@cyclopathic998 3 ай бұрын
Suzuki LTZ 400 quad has the same engine, and it has EFI and 6 gears (5+reverse) so the possibility that new DRZ will have 6 gears is higher than it was for Gen3 KLR.
@jimbo4203
@jimbo4203 3 ай бұрын
I had that quad , it was awesome, except the front shocks, they were junk
@diraltmcallister3523
@diraltmcallister3523 3 ай бұрын
I wish my KLR had either Reverse or 6th xD
@KingFriday274
@KingFriday274 3 ай бұрын
I always thought the quad had a high maintenance mx type motor. Am I wrong?
@jimbo4203
@jimbo4203 3 ай бұрын
@@KingFriday274 drz 400 is super reliable , the 450 ltz Suzuki is a higher maintenance race Quad, whole different animal
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 3 ай бұрын
@@KingFriday274 it ran the DRZ E 12:1 piston, cam, etc.
@fernpark8880
@fernpark8880 3 ай бұрын
They should make it a DRZ 450!
@andrew390
@andrew390 3 ай бұрын
Ok, I'm stupidly excited about this!! Just hope they can keep the weight down.
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
Likewise 😎
@Alien_Cuts
@Alien_Cuts 3 ай бұрын
why? like you're going to compete or something oh, and calm your titz, you're not a child ffs
@ryanbrandenburg1882
@ryanbrandenburg1882 3 ай бұрын
Agree with you completely. This isnt a race bike and doesn't need to be totally redisigned..
@trajanfpv
@trajanfpv 3 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed. Now we need a WR350r.
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 3 ай бұрын
Nice bit of thought put into this Solid. When Kawasaki sent me a survey about future KLR models after I bought a 2018 KLR, I gave them the advice of updating it minimally. Keep it inexpensive, and allow the aftermarket to cater to garage mechanics. I think that is “solid” advice for Suzuki with the DRZ 400.
@ruahinesrider
@ruahinesrider 3 ай бұрын
Hi Pinkie.A DRZ 400 fuel injected model be awesome or a 500.A updated 650DRZ with ABS EFI be great too.They are a Legendary Status dual sports bike & Companies like Acerbis make larger tanks etc.Needs ABS EFI to be road legal.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 ай бұрын
@@ruahinesrider FUCK ABS EFI
@888jimmy
@888jimmy 3 ай бұрын
Nice work Solid! 🍻 Keen to see if this idea of 2025 DRZ goes anywhere.
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed 🤞 but it’s early days
@balladofbalfe8914
@balladofbalfe8914 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Kove 450 has finally woken the sleeping giant. 6 speed would be good, 50 more cc, and a decebt dash, whether that's TFT or not.
@TacgnolSimulacrum
@TacgnolSimulacrum 3 ай бұрын
Kove, Ibex, the new Himalayan, they're all pushing the older brands to actually update things. Wouldn't surprise me to see a DRZ450 and maybe DRZ450-ADV version in addition to the -SM
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 3 ай бұрын
It was the EPA getting muzzled 2 months ago that did this. Suzuki wasnt going to spend the crazy $ to try and meet their Nazi level regulations. Kove, Beta etc are smaller companies that dont sell so many bikes/per capita so the latter EPA rules said they didnt have to meet such high emission standards as larger companies.
@ericweber1969
@ericweber1969 3 ай бұрын
I don’t want a TFT on a dual sport. Simple is best. TFT’s are more expensive when they break. Fine on an ADV or street bike.
@hakancakr1253
@hakancakr1253 3 ай бұрын
Owned for 5 years and loved it.
@mikeisland7382
@mikeisland7382 3 ай бұрын
DRZ-550 please, 16+L tank, Fisher style seat, wide range gear box and decent suspension. A guy can hope.
@Nulrom
@Nulrom 3 ай бұрын
Don't give me hope bud
@Theoriginalbubbafett
@Theoriginalbubbafett 3 ай бұрын
Amen!
@nathanf3230
@nathanf3230 3 ай бұрын
They might as well compete with KTM's 690 while there at it then. 70hp, quick shifter.....why not heated grips, cruise control and rider modes. Maybe one of Hondas DCT auto transmissions. How about a DRZ 400 with 6 gears, EFI and decent suspension first.
@mikeisland7382
@mikeisland7382 3 ай бұрын
@@nathanf3230 It's funny that you mention the 690. That's what I think the market is missing, a lesser tuned Japanese alternative to the 690 that has decent service intervals.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw 3 ай бұрын
Just get a honda cb500x at that point
@terrarecon
@terrarecon 3 ай бұрын
The DRZ400 needs USD forks, EFI, and a 6-speed. Then we're good.
@CalllmebLaZe
@CalllmebLaZe 3 ай бұрын
This comment 👌
@MrNaxen
@MrNaxen 3 ай бұрын
and more torque and power but with emission regulation it won't happens
@terrarecon
@terrarecon 3 ай бұрын
@@MrNaxen Yep you are probably right
@JesusChrist_IsTruth-LoveForALL
@JesusChrist_IsTruth-LoveForALL 3 ай бұрын
💯 come on now! It's about damn time.
@KingFriday274
@KingFriday274 3 ай бұрын
Why usd forks? I like the flex of traditional.
@patrolmaverick
@patrolmaverick 3 ай бұрын
Styling wise they're somewhat timeless. They've always been a "nice" looking bike. Nothing exciting, but not ugly either. Modern lighting and modern forks wouldn't go astray, but if they only added EFI and ideally a 6 speed, they'd be a great little dual sport
@CalllmebLaZe
@CalllmebLaZe 3 ай бұрын
New shocks without the ugly crinkles
@KingFriday274
@KingFriday274 3 ай бұрын
Except the headlight (ez fix) and GIANT rear fender. Again, ez fix.
@carstengerm
@carstengerm 3 ай бұрын
That would be great, imagine other manufacturer follow, XR650, Yamaha XT ect ... :)
@markhills3922
@markhills3922 3 ай бұрын
If it aint broke, don't fix it...Carb and cable can be fixed anywhere; Lean it out for ADR and have a 'power up, off road only' Carb kit as a spare part; 450-500cc, 6 speed, cushdrive hub on supermoto and enduro; Adjustable USD forks and fully adjustable rear shock; maybe a bit of a fairing and a bigger tank with a decent seat....sell 'em by the truck load...oh, and put the kickstarter back on.
@visualagnosia4179
@visualagnosia4179 3 ай бұрын
Sure you can fix carb and cable anywhere but you can't ride it anywhere either. Plenty of existing DRZs, big bore kits and suspension upgrades if you want that but any change to get 6 speed won't be grandfathered in so you'll have to put up with EFI or 5 speed....them the breaks
@markhills3922
@markhills3922 3 ай бұрын
@@visualagnosia4179 "can't ride it anywhere"...and the rest of your comment makes no sense; Come back when you have something logical to comment with.
@Jolly-Josh
@Jolly-Josh 3 ай бұрын
Drawing is also showing upside down forks.
@KingFriday274
@KingFriday274 3 ай бұрын
Probably right off the sm model.
@robertrussell3264
@robertrussell3264 3 ай бұрын
Us boomers need lighter, high quality, moderately priced, Japanese options. The market likely exists. I love my vstrom but getting too heavy. If I trusted KTM I would have already switched.
@roybatty2030
@roybatty2030 3 ай бұрын
Please bring to UK, it will sell thousands, with me first in the queue.
@JH-jv7ng
@JH-jv7ng 3 ай бұрын
I agree, we want it in the uk
@d0b0b
@d0b0b 3 ай бұрын
EFI would mean it could be sold in the UK and in the EU. We might just take a hit on the power output, but the aftermarket can deal with that.
@aderiley6592
@aderiley6592 3 ай бұрын
🙏
@MASKINA
@MASKINA 2 ай бұрын
The whole of Europe too!
@leanit5756
@leanit5756 3 ай бұрын
Hope they make it a 500cc, that is the sweet spot for a DP bike.
@KingFriday274
@KingFriday274 3 ай бұрын
Don't know about that, but I do know my 250 is not enough, my klx300 was almost enough, and my 650 was way too much.
@BoneRat
@BoneRat 3 ай бұрын
All depends on the terrain and the distance of your rides based on where you live, 650 is the sweet spot for me but a 400 would be better in the woods
@murlyn2
@murlyn2 3 ай бұрын
Proud DRZ owner here. I can't imagine changing any of this bike without making it a 450 or 500, EFI and having 6 gears.
@yuy389
@yuy389 3 ай бұрын
400 would be good tho. not really a 400cc dual sport that isnt a weird brand. all 350s and 450s and 500s
@sumo_steve45
@sumo_steve45 3 ай бұрын
FINGERS CROSSED!!!!!!!!!!!! I've had 5 of these bikes - and now I'm on my 4th DR650. I hope like hell that we get EFI this time.
@tedcity5861
@tedcity5861 3 ай бұрын
Careful what you wish for. It'll come in a over lean tune, with a sketchy ride by wire.
@sumo_steve45
@sumo_steve45 3 ай бұрын
@@tedcity5861 I'm fine with it as long as it's not like the CRF450RL throttle. LOL
@rosslangerak8361
@rosslangerak8361 3 ай бұрын
The most important feature for any adventure bike - large or small - is going to be range. Current range on a DR-Z400 is about 120 miles. That's running it all the way to empty. With EFI, that could increase to about 150 miles. EFI would require a fuel pump. If Suzuki chooses to put the fuel pump and filter in the tank, this would be a good opportunity for them to increase capacity. If not, aftermarket tanks like the large Safari tank could extend the range of the DR-Z400 to over 400 miles without modification.
@Captndarty
@Captndarty 3 ай бұрын
That’s because the DRZ-400 is not an adventure bike. It’s a dual sport. Ride it how you’d like but this design was to legally go from single track to single track via the road with blinkers and license plate.
@stefanmargraf7878
@stefanmargraf7878 3 ай бұрын
I wish more volume between my knees while standing on the pegs!
@rosslangerak8361
@rosslangerak8361 3 ай бұрын
@@Captndarty I'm not sure what your objection is. Do you think that 400cc motor is too small for an adventure? Is the DR-Z400 too capable on dirt roads to be an adventure bike? With an alteration to the gearing, that 400cc motor is quite capable on the highway. Add a larger tank for range and it's beginning to look like an adventure bike. I don't know about you, but I'm going to take it on an adventure. About a decade ago, a couple from New York rode DR-Z400s around the Western US two weeks at a time. They would ride for two weeks, put the bikes in storage, fly home, and return six months later to continue. They did this for several years. I would describe that as an adventure. Noraly Schoenmaker, AKA Itchy Boots, has been riding around the world, most recently on a Honda CRF300L Rally. I would describe what she is doing as adventure.
@nickclarkuk
@nickclarkuk 3 ай бұрын
The most important feature of any dual sport is weight or lack of it. A larger tank increases weight and puts it up high where you don’t want it. Ideally this will be like a CRF450L but with sensible service intervals and a less stressed motor .
@rosslangerak8361
@rosslangerak8361 3 ай бұрын
@@nickclarkuk If all you want to do is ride local trails, the stock tank is fine, though the 320 lb DR-Z400 is already considered overweight by many dual sport riders. If you want to ride long distances and explore new places, you can take advantage of that 400cc motor and give it some range. I had a DR-Z400S with a 7 gallon Safari tank, giving it over 350 miles range. I would make that mod again. The Safari tank is heavier than the stock tank, but I didn't find it a problem. Fuel burns off going to a destination, and if you don't think you need the fuel, don't fill the tank. Considering the weight allowances you make with a large adventure bike, a DRZ with a large tank is a bargain. I took that DR-Z through Washington into Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Nevada, California. That Safari tank was indispensable.
@smiththers2
@smiththers2 3 ай бұрын
As an owner of a drz, I'm excited yet cautious for something updated with EFI. On one hand EFI can be great because it's less to deal with when it's hot or cold or higher elevation, or if it's been sitting a while. On the other hand, if they don't use an EFI system that's already proven to be reliable it'll put some people off. I've had my bike for almost 3 years and I absolutely love the way it runs currently. I don't even really want a large change to the gearbox, maybe drop 1st gear about 3%, keep 2nd where it is and go up with 3, 4, and 5 about 3-5%. Go outside that and it'll probably change how it performs enough that it may not be fun anymore. Lastly, I know I won't be able to afford it for a long time if it ends up being a great model to buy.
@JohnnyBoy919
@JohnnyBoy919 3 ай бұрын
Give it fuel injection, 6 gears, make it lighter, hopefully slightly lower seat height, LEDs all around. Make it like a crf300l with better suspension and more power and these will sell like hotcakes if they get the pricing right.
@martynbeaumont1100
@martynbeaumont1100 13 күн бұрын
Totally agree. There's a gap in the market. This is why the old secondhand DrZ400s holds value so strongly. Because you cannot buy anything new.
@deltabravo1257
@deltabravo1257 3 ай бұрын
I told my local dealer I wanted to be put on a waiting list for whatever happens to replace the DRZ. He blew me off like I was on drugs when I explained that there’s internet speculation that something might be happening to the current DRZ and it might be replaced with something else. Twice I mentioned this video as well as a discussion on ADVRider as well as the patent filings from Suzuki. The salesperson still acted like I was lost about what I was talking about.
@jrreeves998
@jrreeves998 3 ай бұрын
Efi, 6th gear and 500cc and I will buy it yesterday. Yes I know it probably won’t be bumped up in cc but I can dream.
@shanecox203
@shanecox203 3 ай бұрын
Efi and a six speed I think would compete very well with the crf300 maybe offer a rally version with a bigger fuel tank and a windscreen
@roiraw5803
@roiraw5803 3 ай бұрын
As always a like from me Solid! Also a thank you from me for inspiring me to buy my first dual sport. I chose the CRF 250 Rally for its light adventure bike qualities. I'm still breaking it in, but already have so many more roads to chose from now the bad state of a road is inviting instead of detering! 😂
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate and congrats on the Rally 🥳 Enjoy the dirt and ride your own ride 👍
@jasgsxr2726
@jasgsxr2726 3 ай бұрын
I think the market will appreciate the tiers KTM 500, Honda 450RL, updated DRZ 400 and the KLX 300 something for everyone.
@1134EMP
@1134EMP 3 ай бұрын
Original owner of a 2002 E model. Has done 107mph on GPS(14/44 gearing). The higher compression, off road cams, and better carb on the E model makes it so good. It was faster than CRF450’s back when it was new.
@Dave-sw2dm
@Dave-sw2dm 3 ай бұрын
DRZ400S was my first dual sport motorcycle 18 years ago. Today I would chose the DR650 over a DRZ400, but am happy with my KLX300.
@Brian-xplor278
@Brian-xplor278 3 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more, by far the easiest and most robust bike to service. The Toyota 70 series landcruiser of bikes. Even though it has the additional liquid cooling system and shims for valve adjustments, they designed it in a way that it was simple to inspect if you ever had to. Many customers remove it from consideration due to the limiting narrow transmission ratio, and doubtful the new revision will be anything different than the klr. Six speeds would easily promote more sales to cover the development... alas... just a dream :)
@motopasky
@motopasky 3 ай бұрын
If true, this is good news. Honda CRF250L owner here, which has EFI and 6 gears 😋
@MaverickAus
@MaverickAus 3 ай бұрын
Everything has EFI and 6 speed, Suzuki are stuck in the past.
@6226superhurricane
@6226superhurricane 3 ай бұрын
@@MaverickAus the first 6 speed motorcycle was the 1965 suzuki hustler. for a 6 speed to be as strong as a 5 speed the engine has to be wider. a 400cc can pull 5 gears easier than a 250 pulls 6 and top speed is about ratios not number of gears eg a drz400 has the same top speed as a crf450rl which has a 6 speed both have a 10k rev limit they're cruising at the same rpm at 100kph or 60mph.
@visualagnosia4179
@visualagnosia4179 3 ай бұрын
Considering Kawi were happy to do a minimal update to the KLX250s to a 300 without ABS I think Suzuki will be happy with just the American and Asian market to get a good return for minimum investment. Those that know their history know the DRZ400 was actually a joint venture with Kawi and there used to be a KLX400
@ronanrogers4127
@ronanrogers4127 3 ай бұрын
Needs EFI and either a 6 speed or wide ratio 5 speed and it will be a good bike. Bumping up the stroke would be great too
@Tony-zp8xn
@Tony-zp8xn 3 ай бұрын
When I was buying a bike, I would have taken the DRZ more seriously if it weighed a bit less, were more modernized, and had EFI. I ended up getting a CRF300L Rally, because despite what people say, it checked the most boxes.
@Offroader74
@Offroader74 3 ай бұрын
Since several competitors go for the 450cc, I would expect Suzuki to do the same. So maybe we're looking forward to an DR-Z 450
@FernitoAM
@FernitoAM 3 ай бұрын
Ey solid, you probably have seen a modded drz with rally fairing, safari tank and pannier racks. There are a few second hand around. Imagine Suzuki following honda with the 300 platform and releasing a drz400 like current but EFI, and abs (switchable) and a factory rally version, with bigger fairing and fuel tank.
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 3 ай бұрын
I like Suzuki but they're always dead last to upgrade their grandfathered models. I'd like them to make a 500 cc version with EFI, upgraded suspension and a six speed gearbox but keep the weight and price low. It'd be great if they offered a dual sport model, supermoto, and a lightweight off road oriented adventure model with a 4-5 gallon fuel tank and large rear rack.
@mgs.915
@mgs.915 3 ай бұрын
If the drz400 gets efi it’s the bike I’ll want! I have a dr200 which was by no means my long term bike but I don’t know what I want next! I’ve thought about pretty much every possible option but still haven’t decided what I want my next bike to be
@DualSportDoug
@DualSportDoug 3 ай бұрын
I'd be totally fine with a nearly identical design compared to the current DRZ. Air filter changes are easy. Other maintenance is easy as well. I even like the digital dash. Having a forward and backward adjustable trip meters, and TWO of them is awesome. The instrumentation was cutting edge when it came out in 2000. It was DESIGNED for people that participate in a lot of dual sport events by having the ability to adjust the trip meters. All of the above is why I have kept the 2002 DRZ S that I've owned since 2006. I much prefer it for a long, all day ride on dirt roads compared to my KTM 450 EXC-F
@MalShakur
@MalShakur 3 ай бұрын
Well, they also leaked patents for a much needed new GSX-R1000 a while back, but that bike seems to have been scrapped. We can only keep hoping.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 3 ай бұрын
I can hear the complaints already...weight...as the Cat/Converter and ABS isn't light,what needs to be fitted these days,and what's in the patents filed!
@the_explorerist
@the_explorerist 3 ай бұрын
I wonder why it does not have a headlight drawn in the image, but everything else has been drawn.
@ericweber1969
@ericweber1969 3 ай бұрын
Patent drawings commonly omit parts that aren’t relevant to the patent. The patent is about the efi and throttle, not the rest of the bike. It appears to require some repackaging of the exhaust and a few other things, which is why these are shown. Note that the brakes are also not shown, because they aren’t relevant to the patent.
@ronlawson5819
@ronlawson5819 3 ай бұрын
With how popular the 300 to 450 dual sport bikes are now …..yeah good timing on Suzuki
@sk8lucas
@sk8lucas 2 ай бұрын
Finally happened!
@frankensteinsgarage9632
@frankensteinsgarage9632 3 ай бұрын
I see some comments about suspension and tech. I hope it is almost the same, but with efi and switchable abs. A 6 speed would be great. But its certainly not a deal breaker. And I doubt we will get it. Im not a big fan of uspide down forks for non race bikes. Conventionals seem to go through seals a lot less. And with a good sus tuner those DRZ's can be turned into proper trail weapons. The only other change i would like to see is a neater, clearer speedo and handle bar setup
@DonHogan-wi2yj
@DonHogan-wi2yj 3 ай бұрын
The 450 motocross makes 55hp. Lower compression, cut rev lim down 2k, recast case to add additional 1qt oil space. Itd be reliable. That would be a lighter more potent package right there.
@Horus71
@Horus71 2 ай бұрын
You can pre-order this bike from Suzuki Australia. It comes with swithable ABS, 398cc, and a 5 speed gearbox. The DRZ 400 SM is also available.
@cassial777
@cassial777 3 ай бұрын
could be bringing back the 350? would be nice to see the 650 get updated also. Love that lower seat height.
@CannyDanny
@CannyDanny 3 ай бұрын
Seems like more evidence this time round, but we've heard this suggested every year. Fingers crossed for an updated DRZ, but I'll believe it when I see it. Add EFI and 6 gears and I'll definitely upgrade my current 2005 DRZ.
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
I’d say that’s the best approach. Hope for the best but expect the worst 👍
@torkrench
@torkrench 2 ай бұрын
Adjusting gear splits would be easy, go slightly deeper on final gearing but add a simple internal planetary to output shaft for a 6th overdrive actuated by push button... Simple and effectively adds a innovative hi/low to make it a 10 speed box.
@RicardoValdes-r6w
@RicardoValdes-r6w 3 ай бұрын
The Suzuki been reviewed here on your channel is a reliable bike that has done well in the test of time capsule. Thank you for your channel and analysis with the likely change or not for the Suzuki Dual sport 400 …
@airadaimagery692
@airadaimagery692 3 ай бұрын
I would like a Rally version please, thanks.
@thevtadventure1062
@thevtadventure1062 3 ай бұрын
The USD forks with proper setup could be nice 👍🏼
@user-se7vt5ow4e
@user-se7vt5ow4e 3 ай бұрын
Some decent KYB forks and shock, not the bargain basement absolute garbage SHOWAs that came on the Honda CRF300L.
@thevtadventure1062
@thevtadventure1062 3 ай бұрын
@@user-se7vt5ow4e yupppp that’s what I’m thinking too.
@yorkchris10
@yorkchris10 3 ай бұрын
Some EFI uses gear position to determine engine load. I'm not seeing the DrZ as a freeway trucker like a 452. That would crouch a segment I think. I like these speculation drawings. Probaly yellow .
@rupertsuzuki3376
@rupertsuzuki3376 3 ай бұрын
If they plug in the upgrades you mention they get my money. No need for a whole redo. Miss on the upgrades and I’ll either keep what I have or buy one someone else’s offerings. 2025 looks like a great year for this displacement segment.
@saltydualsport
@saltydualsport 3 ай бұрын
i'll believe it IF i see it . (and would love to see it) 🤞🏼
@JCrozier1
@JCrozier1 3 ай бұрын
When I saw the title for the video, I clicked it, hit pause, and went and poured another bourbon. Not sure about this one, but I'd love to see it.
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
🥃
@Papparratzi
@Papparratzi 3 ай бұрын
A new EFI DRZ is probable. 6 speed, not a chance. They’ll stick with the proven 5. New all around LED lighting is a must. Update the suspenders ✔️ I’d love to see them incorporate the Trail Tech Voyager like Beta did. Having gps on a DS bike is a must. Trail Tech makes it easy.
@SigmaSheepdog
@SigmaSheepdog 3 ай бұрын
I would certainly like to see Suzuki offer EFI, and I would purchase an SM version in a heartbeat. If they go with ABS, I would hope that it's optional because I really don't want it. As far as the gearbox, I really don't care if they keep the five speed or introduce a Six.
@ericweber1969
@ericweber1969 3 ай бұрын
I want the ABS, but only if it’s switchable. Honda’s CRF300L has this, super convenient
@DualSportDoug
@DualSportDoug 3 ай бұрын
Another hint is that when you look at Suzuki's website, there is no 2025 DRZ listed, just the 2024. There IS however a 2025 DR650 listed. To me, this seems like a dead giveaway that something new is coming soon.
@gramcameron4469
@gramcameron4469 3 ай бұрын
A 450 or even a 500 , w/ a 6 spd g/box , chromoly frame & better susp. damping.. one can dream... 💡💫
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 3 ай бұрын
The day after US court systems dismantled a lot of govt branches with too far reaching control {The EPA mainly} Suzuki dropped the DRZ from '25 line up. That was 2 months ago, I knew it then. Good for them, to be worried about emissions on an EFI dirt bike while they take private jets for lunch was getting Nazi level. Kawasaki actually meeting the EPA stringent levels, and doing it in 2 years on KLR was impressive. But they always use the clutch switch to bypass rules, LOL. New KLR has a different fuel map if u bypass the clutch safety switch
@drzrider3440
@drzrider3440 3 ай бұрын
Well it would be nice. But by law if they change it, it will have to have Antilock brakes. Its the law on any bike over about 300lbs. So it will be required to have it...if it does get made. Im a huge fan of the DRZ. I have worked on and rebuilt tons of rhem...all for free, like you said .no brainer to work on. I doubt a 6-speed is in the works. But maybe that wide ratio gearing from ACT that already exists. I would have to see more to even begin to believe it though. But we will need to see a lot more before i would beleive they actually are making some changes. May be dump the DRZ400 and the DR650 and make a DR-Z500. That would be more believable to me. Would for sure makes more sense to me. As they stopped sending the DR650 to several countries already. So make sense to dump both and come out with a 500cc. Time will tell.
@jessemeanlt1
@jessemeanlt1 3 ай бұрын
My 2023 klx300 is 300 pounds and has no abs. I would love a 6speed and efi. My first bike was a drz400. My the better ktm690, ducati hypermotard 698. I think I will buy the ducati hypermotard in 2 year. In 2025 year I will buy a suzuki gsxr1000r. For the past 3 year I been buying a new bike every year. This year was a yamaha r3. I need a bigger garage.
@drzrider3440
@drzrider3440 3 ай бұрын
@@jessemeanlt1 yes. Its an addicting habbit. Been riding since i was 15. Bought the 1986 ninja 600R in 1987. Went to the track soon after. Road raced up an down the west coast for years. WMRRA, OMRRA AND WERA events. Loved it. Owned several sport bikes over the years. Then moved into cruisers. Now only dual sport and adv bikes for me. Zero want for a fast bike anymore. Im now 55 years old. Much perfer remoted wilderness solo rides. Its my therapy
@jessemeanlt1
@jessemeanlt1 3 ай бұрын
@@drzrider3440 i understand the solo part a lot. I like being by myself. I camp hike all the time. Just did my first motorcycle camping. I went from road racing cars to off road trucks. Then my friend let me ride his dirtbike. 3 day later I ordered my first bike. I got into motorcycles late. The money I put into my race cars is nuts. And a motorcycle is still faster. I am 39yrs old.
@jacbosmitt
@jacbosmitt 3 ай бұрын
I really REALLY hope they dont ruin the suspension or durability. The drz is the last cheap dual sport that comes with decent suspension and doesn't break something every time you drop it (provided you add case savers)
@lachy1709
@lachy1709 3 ай бұрын
Tackling the 400 instead of the 650 for a single cylinder in these new emission regulations definitely seems like the move, I’d doubt the 650 will ever get updated in the single cylinder format
@billcotton1551
@billcotton1551 3 ай бұрын
Solid, if it happened with the KLR, It could happen with the DRZ.
@SgtRock51
@SgtRock51 3 ай бұрын
EFI, 6 speed trans, upgraded suspension, switchable ABS, make it a 450 and I might actually replace my DR350. I'll never give up my 650 though!😂
@Mark-ou8nu
@Mark-ou8nu 3 ай бұрын
Maybe make a low suspension version to compete with the new Himalayan 450
@jimmiller1780
@jimmiller1780 3 ай бұрын
This could be an excellent seller for Suzuki…if it doesn’t weigh 400 lbs and make 12 hp.
@jackdirtbiketeam
@jackdirtbiketeam 3 ай бұрын
I'm in the UK, if it happens, I doubt it'll come to Europe unfortunately. And I'll be gutted😢
@jonomasonILoveU
@jonomasonILoveU 3 ай бұрын
I had the first DR400 over 40 years ago and it was great for doing wheelies and power slides, loved that bike. Doing kTm now and waiting for the 2025 ADV390(398.63cc). I love KTM😁.
@ep6606
@ep6606 3 ай бұрын
Dude, I don't need a reason to streak down the hallway naked
@a.r.8850
@a.r.8850 3 ай бұрын
something to hope for! But i don't think the 5-speed spread can be stretched. I have standard gearing and when it gets steep like street mountain passes, the step between 4th and 5th gets quite long. And then in really steep rocky stuff, 1st feels long. I think the Engine would need quite a bit more torque to manage stretching that out.
@phantomshtter
@phantomshtter 3 ай бұрын
Give me the EFI, LED headlight and ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION. Keep the rest!
@bernardmitchell
@bernardmitchell 3 ай бұрын
An affordable super motard would be nice
@SigmaSheepdog
@SigmaSheepdog 3 ай бұрын
So, I just checked a local dealers Suzuki inventory and they are deeply discounting the several DR-Z400's that they have in stock which they NEVER do. Other Suzuki models that they have listed are not discounted at all. Could this be a sign? Hmmmm.
@clvrswine
@clvrswine 3 ай бұрын
Don't start any sentence with "so" and never, ever use "hmmmm" anywhere. Never use ALL CAPS in a comment. All of this is what adult men never do. Man up.
@SigmaSheepdog
@SigmaSheepdog 3 ай бұрын
@@clvrswine F.O.!
@longdaysandhardworkatramra8260
@longdaysandhardworkatramra8260 3 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for your take, soon as I saw the news I thought of you, I actually wonder if you were influential in them doing this. Because it seems to be happening.
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
I know I took my time but I was waiting for something like these patent leaks before sounding the alarm ⏰
@longdaysandhardworkatramra8260
@longdaysandhardworkatramra8260 3 ай бұрын
@@chroniclesofsolid I thought you were quick as, those patents only just came out, fingers crossed for 6 speed!
@dr.x4050
@dr.x4050 3 ай бұрын
If sticking with s 5-gear box, will it be simple enough to just make the transmission wider ratio for improved slow speed and highway riding? Maybe add a CUSH drive?
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 3 ай бұрын
Part of the gearbox differences has to do with the ratios. A proper spread with only 5 gears is fine if the bike has the torque. 6 speeds is nice if the bike doesn't have the torque and can help keep RPMs up.
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 3 ай бұрын
I, too, hope they stick to the original design. It is a comfortable bike.
@ScottPayden-f3t
@ScottPayden-f3t 3 ай бұрын
good info . What is a paintint ??
@leighhill9185
@leighhill9185 3 ай бұрын
Yes please!
@fredericpetit3814
@fredericpetit3814 3 ай бұрын
Wow. An update to the DRZ? It is about time.if they release the bike with EFI and a 6 gear they are going to sell like crazy. We would need the same thing on the DR650.
@hardworkingamerican8847
@hardworkingamerican8847 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm . I better hold off on a smaller Dual Sport ADV bike that's easier to load in my truck than my Tenere 700 that I barely have time to ride . A bigger tank would be nice and a bit lower seat height with 5 extra hp would be golden .
@jakeviolet2195
@jakeviolet2195 3 ай бұрын
I'm gonna need more than EFI to buy another DRZ. The fueling was never a big issue on that bike. The problem was the lack of power, the 5 speed gearbox and the clunky suspension. Give it a 10 horsepower boost (if every cheap single coming out of India and China makes 40-45 hp, Suzuki should have no problem doing the same.) Modern suspension with inverted forks and a six speed and I'm all over it. Don't care about ABS, but if it's necessary to placate the nanny state, then OK.
@johnclowes3502
@johnclowes3502 3 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they wouldn't just use the RMX450Z platform...
@KentwoodWarrior
@KentwoodWarrior 3 ай бұрын
Cause that’s a race motor
@johnclowes3502
@johnclowes3502 3 ай бұрын
It's a lot easier to reduce d motor power than create it. The RMC is basically the same motor.. just add crank weight and a 6th gear.. cylinder design is basically the same.
@jakeviolet2195
@jakeviolet2195 3 ай бұрын
@johnclowes3502: Honda tried that with the CRF450RL and failed. A reliable dual sport needs higher oil capacity, lower compression and longer wearing parts. It's not just a matter of nerfing an MX bike to make it into a dual sport. At least not a dual sport like the DRZ, which can be used for adventuring, commuting, offroading or whatever you want to throw at it.
@johnclowes3502
@johnclowes3502 3 ай бұрын
@@jakeviolet2195 but we can't just keep rehashing the same.tbinh and then ask more for it.. and that's what they'll keep doing. The DRz is a dated bike. Its the same as the DR650.. People keep saying evolve the bike but then complain when it's not the same. The RMX460Z is a good platform that will not require very expensive retooling. The DRZ will take an expensive rework to make it a better bike.
@KingFriday274
@KingFriday274 3 ай бұрын
Mx bikes aren't very good dual sports.
@stefanhansen5882
@stefanhansen5882 3 ай бұрын
This would be awesome. Do you think it will be available in Europe IF it is actually coming to market?
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 3 ай бұрын
It’s a big IF but if it gets ABS and EFI it qualifies for the EU.
@stefanhansen5882
@stefanhansen5882 3 ай бұрын
@@chroniclesofsolid Then I'll buy one. Fingers crossed!
@ericweber1969
@ericweber1969 3 ай бұрын
I hope they get a wider ratio five speed, EFI, and switchable ABS for both S and SM models.
@6226superhurricane
@6226superhurricane 3 ай бұрын
don't hold your breath for an improved drz400e more than likely the replacement will be heavier, have less power, rudimentary efi and be built more cheaply like most other bikes on the market at the moment.
@flyovercounty1427
@flyovercounty1427 3 ай бұрын
I went to my 3x5 note card index…let’s see… yup this is the 57th “fuel injection etc” DRZ400 announcement
@bigbadvicHo
@bigbadvicHo 3 ай бұрын
I’m waiting on this, if it comes out it will be my first bike, if not I’ll be buying a Bonneville T120 in matte black
@godfreytomlinson2282
@godfreytomlinson2282 3 ай бұрын
CRF450RL is the ultimate, it's lighter than the DRZ400 and faster than the DR650SE. Don't let some maintenance inconveniences put you off
@ericweber1969
@ericweber1969 3 ай бұрын
The 450RL is a cool bike, but I hate the extra maintenance it requires. I’d rather have a lightly upgraded DRZ.
@godfreytomlinson2282
@godfreytomlinson2282 3 ай бұрын
@@ericweber1969 Lab tests on engine oil have shown that top quality synthetic oils are still fine up to 3,000 miles. That's on par with the WR250R.
@ericweber1969
@ericweber1969 3 ай бұрын
@@godfreytomlinson2282interesting! Honda has obviously been overly conservative in their maintenance recommendations. That’s good to hear.
@richgran
@richgran 3 ай бұрын
Can anyone tell me if there is any difference in the S and SM gearing other than tires and sprocket sizes?
@maze7_7
@maze7_7 3 ай бұрын
Guys, don't get your hopes up. We already know that companies/governments won't let us have what we want. The engine will probably be a street bike engine. The suspensions won't be tunable. ABS will be ON everytime you turn on the bike. Off-idle throttle will be jerky and be low on power to comply with emissions. etc... It will be a neutered street bike with off-road looks like the CRF300L.
@jakeviolet2195
@jakeviolet2195 3 ай бұрын
The new Royal Enfield Himalayan doesn't have any of those problems (except for the ABS resetting, which is standard nanny-state stuff these days.) But it's a 450cc single that makes 40 hp and runs like a top right out of the gate. Has EFI, six speed, good suspension, the works.. and it's less than 6 grand msrp. It's a heavier adventure bike, but there is no reason why Suzuki couldn't develop a similar motor and put it in a dual sport. The Triumph 400x and upcoming KTM390 will also feature 40+ hp EFI singles. The Japanese need to get with the times, or they are gonna get left behind.
@dacopellino
@dacopellino 2 ай бұрын
Last week i was going to buy a yamaha tenere Extreme edition before stumbling upon this video. Please Suzuki hurry up. I can't wait too long. I'd surely be a new customer as happy DR350s former owner.
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