'Is That Not A Quota?': Anti-DEI Witness Slams Air Force Diversity Goals

At last Thursday's House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) questioned witnesses about DEI in the military, and Lt. Col. Matthew Lohmeier (Ret.) slammed the diversity goals of the Air Force.
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[@jamescleatus5113]

Well Mr. Seidule, I can personally say I’m leaving the Army after 22 years because of your “great” leaders. Your view. From my view, The leaders are the worst I have seen in my entire career. They left us with a bad exit from Iraq. They left us embarrassed, bruised and battered with additional casualties leaving Afghanistan. They are enforcing diversity standards that create hostilities in the working environment. These same standards ensure that not the best, but the “right type” of people are filling leadership roles (see my first statement). You are a great example of the poor leadership if you believe the military is in a better leadership position than ever. We don’t have Generals that make decisions based off right/wrong. They make decisions based off of political motivations and job potentials/opportunities post military. These leaders care about themselves and not the troopers they are leading. You Sir have failed us if you served 36 years and ensured the current leaders fell in behind you. We all need to go back to being the same color “green.” Get rid of DEI and we will see eachother as such. Keep pushing DEI and we will see eachother based off of skin color, sexual preference, gender identity, wondering if someone was placed into a position to fill an agenda, and not for being the best and brightest. This creates additional distrust in combat and in the everyday military-working environment. YOU failed us. YOU Mr. Sedule.

[@JeffCaplan313]

Wasn't the U.S. military supposed to NOT be political?

[@malcolmcole3787]

Not sure why they had him in for this question. He spent his last several years in the Army as the Professor of History at the United States Military Academy. He was not with the rank and file. While he held commands up to a Battalion CDR in his early years, he was teaching at West Point starting around 1994 or so until his retirement in 2020. That is 25 years away from the troops. No doubt he interacted with the rotation of officers and NCOs who rotate through West Point for teaching and mentoring positions, this isn't the same as being with the regular units. Whatever he is testifying to his things he is being told or spoon fed and not anything he is experiencing first hand....unlike the others who were testifying.

[@christopherkucia1071]

Nope, it’s going exactly to plan. Divide confuse abuse and create the perfect storm situations for us plebs to all become insane from and suffer. Going EXACTLY to plan. You made a good choice leaving. It won’t stop until it all comes crumbling down.

[@markscott4881]

When I was a rookie CHP officer we had ‘office averages’ for traffic tickets. Why? Because quotas were illegal. I once asked a Sgt what the difference was, he told me to shut up and get to my line beat.

[@bullmoose5574]

That's the kind of shit that makes people not trust police.

[@markscott4881]

I agree, traffic enforcement has done more damage to public perception of law enforcement than any other form. That’s a big reason I lateraled into a Sheriff’s Department…well that and chasing taillights while writing crash reports designed for insurance companies.

[@xx-qv9tp]

This right here is why we don't trust cops.

[@cryptobradley2009]

Gone woke and gone broke

[@chavvy9074]

The military isn’t for profit.

[@muddyhotdog4103]

@@chavvy9074 broke in terms of recruitment

[@chavvy9074]

@@muddyhotdog4103 the military has reduced recruitment because they’ve deemed 77% of 17-24yos unqualified. I promise no kid in high school lists “there are too many minorities” as the reason why they won’t join the military, and I’m PRETTY sure you’re not supposed to want the kids who would say that in anyway. They’re much more likely to say the reason is because they don’t want to fight wars they have no part in.

[@chavvy9074]

@@muddyhotdog4103 not to mention that the majority of that 77% is due to being overweight. The army could raise recruitment just by doing a weight loss assistance program. I thought they had started one but I haven’t seen anything on it since.

[@muddyhotdog4103]

@@chavvy9074 Ya but a lot of that is from woke culture you could say, ie being soft on youth nowadays.. Like telling kids that being obeise is healthy/ok *is* total woke stuff. I never said that kids don't want to join the military cuz there's too many minorities lol, so I dunno where your coming from with that.. There's lots of trickle down effects from the culture occurring in the usa.. From teaching kids that the usa/capitalism/west is evil, spread of contempt for traditional American values and diminished appeal of military service in favor of other alternatives, all backed by many parents or former service members telling their kids not to join anymore because of where things are heading. Just an over all sense of being less patriotic. Not to mention most young people who plan on joining usually take steps to make sure they're ready to pass things like basic/boot.. And like you said its not about young adults who don't want to serve with minorities.. But being that a large majority of the pot of recruits in usa tend to be white/male (due to demographics being majority white and the historical nature of military focused towards men) of course some might be discouraged less to join when they hear better positions might be given out based on the merit of their skin color or gender. It's all a recipe to get even less recruitments.

[@dylanferguson2653]

We’ve got similar issues here in the UK. Last year, our Royal Air Force was found to have unlawfully discriminated against dozens of white men during a recruitment drive because they wanted to increase diversity. With our institutions now captured & controlled by ideologues, we in the West are running head-first into very dangerous territory.

[@chavvy9074]

Evidently it was already in dangerous territory if people felt it necessary to legally mandate diversity.

[@Hunterbidens-crackdealer]

Your country is lost. It’s been lost.

[@CaesarInVa]

Wow....that is ASTOUNDINGLY stupid. Not to sound like I'm putting down your military (which I'm not), but based on my military experience, beggars (especially recruiters) can't be choosey. If you get a twitch on your line, you real that sucker in, FAST, regardless of person's race, ethnicity, gender, etc. I'll bet if and when you went back to the white guys your recruiters rejected, they had moved on to other occupations or had had time to think over their near-miss, right?

[@dylanferguson2653]

@@CaesarInVa A lot of the rejected candidates remain anonymous… presumably because they feel it would adversely affect their careers going forward. But, yes, some have stated that they don’t want anything more to do with the RAF & have walked away.

[@dylanferguson2653]

@@chavvy9074 Fair.

[@largemouthhunter5014]

CRT & DEI are in fact Racism 👌

[@chavvy9074]

What is the definition of CRT? Not what it stands for, but what it means?

[@alabama2uz]

​@@chavvy9074CRT is race based Marxism, just like National German Socialists.

[@MjrNiGhTmArE]

@@chavvy9074 Critical race theory (CRT) is an interdisciplinary academic field devoted to analysing how social and political laws and media shape (and are shaped by) social conceptions of race and ethnicity. CRT also considers racism to be systemic in various laws and rules, and not only based on individuals' prejudices.

[@notcrazy6288]

@@MjrNiGhTmArE Also, I'd like to add, an offshoot of Critical Theory, which "provides a specific interpretation of Marxist philosophy with regards to some of its central economic and political notions like commodification, reification, fetishization and critique of mass culture." - Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

[@MjrNiGhTmArE]

@@notcrazy6288 Agreed. That was Wikipedia's definition. It certainly is missing a few things and is misleading and should be illegal to teach. However, It's funded by our government.

[@eshelly4205]

I’m a Marine Veteran. If today, I was a young L/Cpl fire team member and suddenly had a new Lt that was black the first thought on my mind and other team members would be “Is he in that position because he is the best available or because he is black” Was there a more qualified leader that was passed over because they didn’t check the correct race box” As a young Marine you need to trust your leaders 200%. Any distrust will destroy the unit. This distrust is created by our politicians and so called “experts” I feel bad for leaders who are black. This is an obstacle for them that was avoidable.

[@CaesarInVa]

Very well said. I agree 100%. I was in the Navy (aviation) and when I crossed paths with a black or Hispanic naval aviator (this was in the 70s and 80s), I knew he was one of the very best. Period. In fact, our wing commander (ComASWWingPac) was black and he was nothing short of fantastic. I would have followed that man through fire, without even having to be told. This DIE thing is a bad, bad idea and like you, I feel sorry for the "people-of-color" (what a racist term) and women who ARE good enough to make the cut, without the DIE quotas. They will always have nagging at the back of their minds whether they deserved to be on the flight deck and their passengers will be wondering the same thing.

[@eshelly4205]

@@Joe-sg9ll and it might be very costly

[@russbroda7207]

In the past superior leaders were overlooked because they were black. Efforts have been taken to assure the best leaders are appointed today by ignoring issues for the first time that don’t involve skill. So you have things backwards and unfortunately in a bigoted way.

[@065Tim]

What a BS story. No grunt ever trusted their LT at first glance. They have to prove their competence. When the platoon sarge vows for him, you trust the LT.

[@065Tim]

​@@russbroda7207 OP gives insight into his field of expertise and you lecture him without any experience. Please explain to me what defines "Bigotry" again.

[@Bobcat9]

For all you feelings-based liberals who think race is relevant in a uniform fighting force, remember this: *Bullets and bombs don't discriminate,* so why does it matter what sex or color anyone is? You either meet the physical standards, or you don't. You're either fit to fight, or you're not. If you can't do the job, then what bearing does your color have? Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage transcend race, sex, and religion and rank above identity every time.

[@pjbpiano]

They know all this. But they want the power to control everyone else.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

If you have to lower standards to hit quotas then you are in fact weakening the organization.

[@RodGustavson]

Nobody is lowering standards. They are recruiting from a wider variety of people. A pilot has specifics requirements to qualify as a pilot. Every candidate meets that requirement. So now, instead of just recruiting the white guy, they are considering other candidates that they have traditionally ignored.

[@RodGustavson]

I’m more concerned with the people that are leaving because there is a more diverse group of pilots. Why would they leave? I suspect it’s either because they got better jobs, or because they can’t bear to work with non-whites.

[@jimkennedy4509]

@@RodGustavson Evidence?

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

@@RodGustavson The military has literally lowered the physical standard at least four times since the 90's. That is boot camp not a specific role.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

@@jimkennedy4509 his source is "trust me bro"

[@Leavon]

I no longer give the advice to young people to join the military any longer. I used to tell them to get as much as they could, do one tour and get out and never go back now I don't even tell them to do that.

[@Shadowbanned4Lyfe]

As an OIF veteran I concur. I used to tell young guys if they wanted to see some shit and meet cool people to enlist. Now it’s “don’t do it”.

[@bullmoose5574]

I had a 17 year old ask about my time in the navy saying she thought of the military as a backup to fire fighting or being a nurse. I told her only go space force of that's easy you're thinking

[@Vorgaloth]

Woke = Critical Consciousness. Critical consciousness is the core of social justice teaching as it is understood within the Critical Theories. It is a heightened awareness of the world and the power structures that shape it. Being Woke means viewing society exclusively through the critical lenses which sees the world only in terms of unjust power dynamics (oppressed/oppressor) and the need to dismantle problematic systems as an activist. That is, it means having adopted Theory and the worldview it conceptualizes. Under “wokeness,” this awakened consciousness is set particularly with regard to issues of identity, like race, sex, gender, sexuality, and others. The term originated in Portuguese as conscientização from the popular post-Marxist Brazilian activist and educator Paulo Freire, usually deemed the father of critical pedagogy (that is, the application of critical theories to the theory of education). It is an evolved Hegelian/Marxian religious cult that hides as human rights, politics, science, art and culture. “A quiet revolution can be dispersed throughout a culture over a period of time to destroy it from within. Mass psychology and media can break the traditions, beliefs and morals and the will of a nation so there is no possibility of resistance. Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity. In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.” -Antonio Gramsci (The Prison Notebooks 1929-1935) DEI: Diversity is an excuse to install political officers (commissars). Equity is a rebranding of socialism; an administration that enforces equal outcomes at the expense of merit. Inclusion is to censor and purge anyone that disagrees with them. "The point of DEI is to destroy your organization from within and turn it into an ethno-communist asset by slowly breaking and replacing the institutional culture via Critical Theory. It's crucial to understand that the Left operates strategically, guided by a framework known as 'dialectical political warfare'. They use our vocabulary but not our dictionary." -James Lindsay Listen to James Lindsay's 28 min talk at the European Parliament for the best summation of the situation in the West and the Woke cultural revolution - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYe9gYyHiJaXfKMsi=fWjyBS_Fp08ts8-z

[@marylamb7707]

Woke is anything that ticks the left off at any time, any where in order to create chaos and something to virtue signal off.

[@williamevans6522]

In other words😊 " Everything 'woke' goes to schitt"

[@thewokefindergeneral7631]

D(ivision, Exclusion, Incompetence)

[@Nnn0cxf]

Since my father retired as an USAF Colonel 45 years ago, it has gone to shite and is now known as the Chair Force.

[@Bradley_Lute]

We need to get rid of all quotas in favor of other efforts. It sows division and paranoia among society.

[@kentate1304]

Im 58 years old, retired Air Force and feel the last generation of parents failed the eligible recruits by lowering standards and by accepting mediocrity. It poisoned this generation. Why would they give up their "entitled" status to conformity even with the lowering of standards and maximum age changes to increase recruitment? I grew up in a time when we learned to tie shoes before kindergarten rather than resorting to velcro. We knew how to read a tape measure and tell time on an analog clock. We signed paychecks in cursive. We knew what spackling was by 8. We had pick up games and didn't rely on parents to drive us to practice...we ran there. Not everyone received a trophy and we kept score! We knew how to give change back when someone gave us a few cents over. We played outside and drank from hoses. We actually developed social skills through personal interaction rather than hiding behind social media walls. We earned enough money to buy a beater car and were proud to have it. We weren't handed a new car at graduation. We knew what patriotism was at an early age and many of us served for that reason alone to preserve and protect the right for this generation to have the creature comforts they enjoy. And we adapted quickly to technology and still outwork this generation! Tough love and a competitive spirit fosters teamwork and good morale. We need to stop the weak ass excuses and be real parents and mentors! We spend more time on being PC. There is a reason why only 1% serve because they are made of the character to be combatants. Let's stop dropping the bar and get back to grass roots military! We have only ourselves to blame for this predictable outcome!

[@user-fg5rg5el7y]

I was in the army from 1965-67. I worked for the XO of my battalion who was a black man, Major Fred Merchant. He was without a doubt the most loved officer by far. One of the most honorable person I ever met in my life time. Don't jump to conclusions and question how a black, brown, or any person got his/her job. I must admit, today affirmative action exists. Look at this incompetent administration. I used to suggest to young people that the military can be good for them. Today I hesitate to suggest military. Especially because of this administration's incompetent Commander in Chief and DEI.

[@johanda2000]

DEI was also rsponisible for the "Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire'. Read Edward Gibbon, published in 1776 for confirmation..

[@chavvy9074]

The DEI Gibbon mentions is that of Christianity. He also mentions warfare as part of the decline.

[@marylamb7707]

​@@chavvy9074 Dei is a leftist mess. Not Christian.

[@jensinedeanda]

This issue is so important

[@yawyobwoc]

Mr. Seidule is a politician.

[@PG-qt7ez]

This is the first time in history that our military, though not perfect, is weak. Very weak and becoming more and more unprepared for protection of this country. And it seems to be by design.

[@mr.dr.inc.4832]

People just don’t want to die for a BS reason

[@AlanRoehrich9651]

If you are in combat, who do you want next to you? The best person for that type of combat? Or the person chosen for race, creed, color, religion, gender, or sexual orientation? I know who I want.....

[@bruhmandude555]

0:50 hes refering to Leave no trace

[@CaesarInVa]

So I spent 12 years, active and reserve, in the US Navy (aviation). This was back in the late 70s through the early 90s. We didn't hold the US air farce in very high regard then, and I doubt if anyone in the US military holds it in very high regard now. After this latest circular firing squad, I can't see how any branch of any military holds the USAF in anything other than the LOWEST of contempt.

[@oc2108]

I was active USAF from 2001-2021. I retired as an E-6, because I wouldn't play the political games required to ascend to the senior NCO tier. The rot isn't unique to the AF. It is ubiquitous amongst all branches of our armed services. As far as the AF being held in high regard among the other services, it would depend on who you are talking to. Special operations, and front line infantry types enjoy the close air support provided by a USAF A-10 Warthog, or a AC-130 Spectre gunship. I've heard them praise the AF. Downed pilots, and the wounded probably have good things to say about AF Pararescue. I worked with all the different services during my two decades in uniform. We all made fun of each other, but when it really counted, we had each other's back. I refueled aircraft for a living in the AF. I will admit, out of all the services, the Navy was the hardest to work with. Many times our regulations conflicted with Navy's. My last deployment was in 2017 in North Africa. Our Air Base had Army personnel, and drones. USAF logistics, civil engineering, and security forces. We had a Marine force recon detachment. We also worked several times with USN Seals. I was there for 7 months, and we all integrated relatively easily. The global war on terrorism changed how the different services viewed each other. Overall, the camaraderie between the services during my time was a net positive. My view was, it didn't matter what branch was opposite of any US service members name tape, we are all Americans. We all volunteered to Support and Defend The Constitution.

[@megazombiekiller9000]

Naval Aviators have never worked well with the Air Force politically. You can see it in every acquisition debacle forced by McNamara trying to make them use the same planes. Both think they are better than the other and only their issues are important. It’s a bit different for the Army because the Air Force comes from the Army Air Corps and Army Air Force of WW2 and there’s not a ton of overlap in mission between the two.

[@Marco32144]

As if members of the AF don’t look down on the other branches. What your seeing in media is simply “fear mongering”. Yes the PT standards have been reduced, and yes the AF has gotten soft. However, I’ve been in 6 years now and the AF is not even remotely woke. No one talks about politics at the work place. People go in, do their job and leave. Whatever you see on the news or whatever personal accounts you hear is minuscule. I haven’t even seen a single “transgender” person in person in the AF. Whenever I see people complain and whine I wonder if they just sit on a tv screen all day and conclude that’s how the world works. And the concern with diversity is laughable. I’m a maintainer on fighter jets. And one thing my peers and I all over the flight line can conclude is that we’ve around 2 minority fighter pilots our entire careers. 99% of AF pilots are still white and they’ve been pushing diversity for years now. The biggest beneficiary of DEI are “white women”. No they aren’t lowering the standards. They fly just fine.

[@3-2bravo49]

Isnt it interesting that we were meeting our recruitment goals during 20 years of active combat. I was an 11bravo and am beyond disgusted with what has happened to our military. That pull out from Afghanistan was one of the most humiliating moments of my life. I spit on this whole administration. Worthless hacks.

[@hocky-ham324-zg8zc]

2+2=5

[@Empire-rc2rv]

Alex, I'm gonna go with "Shut Up and Get to Work" for 500.

[@userutubeable]

Intended sabotage

[@luigismushrooms5701]

Good

[@ladilesper]

$600,000? 😲

[@chasechevy8933]

The great replacement is just a conspiracy theory tho 👍

[@bgheadjack]

Wait, you've been an Eagle Scout for 55+ years and don't know the quote by now?

[@James-jf1sc]

The campsite is worse isn't? They don't want to put in jeopardy their retirement.

[@RealDaveWinter]

The RCAF has the same problem. I recently applied to join the RCAF reserves. I have 10 years of previous military service in the regular forces. I have a diploma from an aviation engineering college. But I'm a straight white male. My application has been 'delayed' while other, woefully under-qualified, candidates are moved forward with because of their skin colour and/or heritage.

[@AlphaAchilles]

I spent 8 years in the Army and I saw what was happening so I left. Good timing I guess

[@unitedstatesofsmash3638]

That mans head is scary looking...I didnt think heads got that big and blown up looking. 😮

[@linjubar]

One of them was a liar.

[@chanceburchfield5470]

Baldy is a cog in the machine

[@JadeRunner]

Argument by redefinition. By redefining the word "quota" they can get away with saying they don't have quotas.

[@ToolFloydChimera]

Forbes…why turn off comments on certain videos?

[@daviru02]

According to Mr. Seidule, there's nothing to see here! Whew! And here I was getting worried we had collectivist ideologs running our government.

[@joehorn1792]

Sad state of affairs in the Air Force, Navy and Army. Marine Corps seems to be keeping their honor clean as it says in the Marine Corps Hymn..

[@sherrihimes7357]

👽

[@ruelethefirst3002]

Used to be alot better, now its all failed crap

[@jerryshelton1481]

Question I have is what lies are being told to either retain or recruit these people cause if people knew the truth they would probably not join

[@Salty.Peasants]

Reddit will call this fake news and continue to say the recruitment crisis is not because of "wokeness".

[@Hurst6969]

Very scary that DoD has being WOKE more important than readiness

[@flubber1557]

Recruiting people into our military for the wrong reasons isnt going to change anything for the better. Its the same arguement people use to say that this administration has more people going into jobs and universities now more than ever. Well that wont matter if the jobs arent done effeciently and the universities arent teaching effectively. You could have 30 people working in 1 mcdonalds it wouldnt matter if they cannot do so effeciently. Its not simply a matter of numbers. The numbers and statistics help express or prove the points being made. They can still be twisted to cause more harm than good depending on the intentions behind their use. Example: I could argue that we should stop using all motorized vehicles in our country because they cause a lot of harm. Than use the statistics that there are more people killed or harmed in vehicle accidents compared to shark attacks causing harm per year. That would be a horrible statistic to use and end up prompting our nation to digress so much further causing much more harm than the accidents do. The reason being there are many reasons vehicular accidents occur and one statistic (shark attacks) is not encountered as often as the others. The statics dont match the question at hand. The amount of progress we would lose and issues to arrise from removing all vehicles would most certainly spark backlash. As we are currently seeing. Many people are frustrated over how the green energy policies have ruined how well our economy can function. When the turbines and rivers freeze in the winter and people have no means of producing power. When the stores cannot get stocked fast enough and theft is at an all time high due to crime being ignored people cannot get their products they wish to buy. So im sick of hearing these weak excuses and prompts for DEI and woke policies. They dont have any true merit and just divide us further. They are political methods of gaining support and furthering their political agendas. Keep them out of our businesses and military. We are THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! We work best UNITED NOT DIVIDED!! Its right there in the title people. Stop trying to side track progress with every little thing. Your ruining it for everyone.

[@vdcg2010]

The general is a company man, he’ll side with whoever benefits him or by who he was told to side with

[@jackiedee6988]

That commander had the delusion of mayorkas…we are not better of concerning lethality at all. The camp is rancid.

[@feeshunter1508]

Is it a coincidence that the acronym for "Diversity, Inclusion, and Equality" is DIE?

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Today's addition to _Pinfold's Dictums:_ If you want to stand proudly behind your goal, call it a quota. If you're afraid to own up to your rigid quota, call it a mere goal.

[@notcrazy6288]

I'm a Hispanic in the Army, so I don't have a dog in this fight in so far as me being discriminated against (I'm not). That said, this crap turns my stomach. As a country, we're supposed to be past this. Race should NOT be a consideration in hiring, promotions, retention, or any other facet of our military. If ALL of our pilots end up being purple-eyed Innuits from Alaska because they happen to be the best at it, SO BE IT. Racist policies like racial quotas destroy morale and breed resentment and division, and no military branch can afford any of that.

[@hawaiiangunner]

I don't want to hear about the military's problems. They did this to themselves

[@navycv591]

Military needs to get back to traditional ways of the 1940-1980 at boot in uniform

[@BroTheDude]

The main reason why 'diversity' initiatives fail is ironically because of human diversity. At both individual and group levels. Even when people are given the exact same opportunities and options, they make different choices and achieve unequally. Why? Because of diversity. 😂 5 children raised under the same roof, by the same parents, with the same rules, will end up with different careers, incomes, and lifestyles. Sometimes drastically. You can't even achieve equality of outcome amongst siblings... yet people expect it across genders, nationalities, ethnicities, cultures, socioeconomic backgrounds, etc. Ridiculous. A complete pipe dream and an affront to fairness, liberty, and dignity.

[@darincheatham4388]

Couldn't get one real soldier on republican side. Only ones who where kicked out.

[@guyh.4121]

Did the blonde behind Sessions run into a door knob? Right eye looks kinda puffy, or maybe it was a rough night.

[@austindrake4697]

I LOVE DEI.. they made white a slang word. lmao

[@MavHunter20XX]

I'll tell you why I left the military. It was Joe Biden and who ever is propping him up.

[@CrabFiles]

Ya, you need more Iranian Immigrants and Yeminis in your Navy and Airforce LOL! MuHAhAHhaha

[@darincheatham4388]

And that bs about shots it's your duty to keep the force safe. It's not individual it's a force

[@mike1967sam]

The US does not have the best military in the world. You keep repeating this as if it's true, it isn't and never has been. The Russians have the best military in the world and deep down the US knows that and it's been that way since the days of the USSR. I mean even that animal LBJ who sent so many kids to their untimely deaths in Vietnam was unable to defeat the NVA. The excuse now is that "O we decided to pull out of Vietnam." Well, if you want to call it that then fine but the facts are that even with all US air support, bombings, Hueys all over (Bell made a fortune), agent orange, Napalm, more than 58000 men died even considering that the US murdered more than 2 million Vietnamese, they still kept coming. If I could use an analogy to explain the Vietnam war it was like being in a boxing match with a fighter that you keep pounding and no matter how hard or how many times you hit him he just keeps coming after you. That's what the Vietnamese were like.

[@TrilobitesRTasty]

The job market is too good...which is why young, talented individuals choose to not join the military. JAN 2023: 517,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.4% (lowest in 53 years)!! FEB 2023: 311,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.6% MAR 2023: 431,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.6% APR 2023: 253,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.4% (again the 53 year record) MAY 2023: 339,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.6% JUN 2023: 497,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.6% JUL 2023: 187,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.5% AUG 2023: 187,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.8% SEP 2023: 336,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.8% OCT 2023: 150,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.9% NOV 2023: 199,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.7% DEC 2023: 216,000 JOBS ADDED, UNEMPLOYMENT AT 3.7%

[@user-rn1sl9bt8s]

The question should be asked to all these pilots tank drivers people that run these ships for our safety here in the United States of America how many people need to die before you do away with dei just a question nobody is willing to ask and why do we have to pay these pilots twice the amount that we would pay a regular White p pilot that's all I'm saying a pilot is a pilot regardless of your damn RACE basically I preferred the most qualified person in all federal government military organizations not just a dei higher

[@kencampbell-rf6ot]

Point to a single person in military / government that is competent......... never mind the "most qualified" If you want to make something better, you have to have an accurate understanding and a fact filled start point. Waffling pish with a false understanding creates more pish.

[@chavvy9074]

Who has died due to dei? Don’t the white pilots also get paid the incentive?