Is the 2022 Indian Pursuit the BEST V-Twin touring motorcycle? | Indian Pursuit Review

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@montejones5788
@montejones5788 2 жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised to see a Goldwing owner that was not hooked on the Goldwing Kool-Aid. You left me feeling I had your honest impression of the Indian, great job!
@Johnrider1234
@Johnrider1234 5 ай бұрын
I have a goldwing 2023. Just bought a Indian road master elite.
@MCrider
@MCrider 2 жыл бұрын
Great review and a very fair perspective on this motorcycle. I went from a 2018 Goldwing to the Indian Challenger and have practically turned it into a Pursuit minus the rear shock and a few other details. So far...no regrets. I loved both bikes, my Goldwing and my Challenger but sometimes it is nice to change things up. A few notes: - The clear coat is not "kind of soft" it is a real problem. Mine got scratches in no time. I have never seen paint this soft. I buffed it out and just ordered a tank protector. This should not be necessary. - I have the same rear trunk as on the Pursuit. It is hard to close and takes significant pressure to close it. I removed the latching arms and put two small washers under mine. It moves the pin down just enough to make latching easy and still watertight. - Love the engine of this bike. I have always liked the look of v-twins but never the ride. This bike has changed that for me, smoother than a Harley with more power and a better-looking engine than the Goldwing, with an American v-twin attitude. In my opinion. - No infotainment system is perfect but this is the best I have owned. Thanks for the thorough review! Kevin
@brianleiva4346
@brianleiva4346 2 жыл бұрын
Your review is right on the money. I have 5000 miles now on my 2022 Indian Pursuit LTD w/premium pkg. It is a phenomenal machine. Better wind protection than my 2021 GW Tour DCT I had previously and at highway speeds, the Pursuit is rock solid. My GW would catch heavy side winds and move the bike quite easily. I would say the ride quality is equal on the 2 bikes. /At low speed turns, the GW seemed more forgiving while the Pursuit tends to have more oversteer. Engine heat was non-existent on the wing but can get pretty bad on the Pursuit at stop lights in 90 degree + weather. The tech on the Indian is the best out there right now. All the info you could possibly need and then some. At times, I miss the silky smooth flat 6 of the Goldwing but I just purchased a mint 2000 Honda Valkyrie CT with 10,000 miles on the clock. That should satisfy that "itch" for a while.
@brentcaukwell5838
@brentcaukwell5838 2 жыл бұрын
I have recently purchased the Indian pursuit (alumina Jade), I loved your review and honesty and agree with your assessment. I traded in a Harley street glide special 2019 and after riding the challenger it was a no brainer. I ordered a challenger but when it arrived it was damaged so i didn't accept it. Then shortly after the pursuit was announced. So even better I thought and ordered it. I am extremely happy with the bike. Thanks
@Valentino50541
@Valentino50541 2 жыл бұрын
Indian Pursuit Owner - I hate to admit it but I agree with every thing you said. The liner in trunk is loose on mine. It wasn't on my Roadmaster. So I can't figure that one out. On the trunk removal. After you remove them the first time. You can replace the screws with a tie rap that will be hidden from view. To remove it you would have to open the bags. The bags are locked so that solves that problem. It would be nice if the bags and the top of the trunk were lined also but I guess we can't have it all. Good review.
@jessel.8697
@jessel.8697 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review video. A Honda Goldwing guy produces one of the only and the best Indian Pursuit review on KZbin thus far. Had your video been out about a month ago I probably wouldn’t be riding my current CVO Roadglide Ultra. Not that I hate Harley, I’ve had 8 of them. To the contrary I love them. I just think that it’s time to move the technology forward a bit. It’s time to move past the air cooled VTWIN idea to an era of water cooling so that we can get some more reliable and better performing bikes.
@Katojones21
@Katojones21 2 жыл бұрын
I also have moved from Harley to the BMW K 1600 GTL. Harley better do something fast and I mean fast because everyone is looking elsewhere there’s no turning back for me.
@heybruh3274
@heybruh3274 2 жыл бұрын
Your CVO RoadGlid Ultra is air-cooled?
@jessel.8697
@jessel.8697 2 жыл бұрын
@@heybruh3274 it has water cooled heads and exhaust ports. That is different from the way that it’s done in a truly water cooled engine. Harley’s “twin cooling” is meant for rider comfort not engine temperature management.
@philipheinhold5340
@philipheinhold5340 Жыл бұрын
Thank you cruseman, another wonderful review. My 1988 GL1500 is still running like a sewing machine 😊 and after ever review you do I get more and more interested in upgrading, unfortunately upgrading is not possibly just now but I do keep dreaming. I really enjoy watching your reviews. Best wishes from the south coast of Ireland 🙏
@rogertodd38
@rogertodd38 Жыл бұрын
As the proud owner of a 2022 Indian Pursuit [Purchased new 18 months ago] I must say that this is an excellent and very accurate review. To any prospective buyers I would say that if you can get beyond the hefty price tag this as good as it gets. As the author stated, it is not perfect but it is close. I like to tell tell people that this bike is a thoroughbred horse dressed up in draft horse clothes. This is a high spirited machine and will not disappoint you in any category .
@jamieblaeske7958
@jamieblaeske7958 2 жыл бұрын
I've had 1985,2010 and still ride a 2016 wing I rented a pursuit limited premium package for a day and I wanted to hate it but I couldn't very smooth riding bike I rode the same twisties as the wing and handles very well,mid life crisis I ordered one should be here just in time for winter
@Valkyrie0307
@Valkyrie0307 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Wing Tour and a 2022 Indian Challenger. You will really like that Pursuit. 👍🏼
@Supernaut2000
@Supernaut2000 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a good review, I spent a half hour taking it all in, good job sir. Where the Indian Pursuit fails for me is no centre stand. I have a 2 car garage and my Goldwing is parked on a dolly that lets me move it around easily. Plus at over $40K in Canada, for a bike I can ride only 4 months of the year it is very hard to fiscally justify. I eagerly await your comparison to the Wing and I suspect the Wing will be fighting for supremacy!
@NormKohn
@NormKohn 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review with thorough commentary. I own a 21 Indian Challenger, a 2017 Indian Roadmaster and a 2018 Goldwing BD. I appreciate the three different personalities of these bikes and they all are new to me every time I ride them. I will say that what sets Indian experience apart for me is the support and genuine care I feel at my Indian Dealership, Bell County Motorworks, Temple TX. Their staff and service department are the best I've ever experienced .
@victoryvisiontour
@victoryvisiontour 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a Victory Vision since 2008. The battery is in the exact same location. It's very easy to access and change out. 10 minutes max to swap it out. Done it twice already and will probably do it again before winter. From a first hand perspective, I can assure you that the battery location is a non-issue. Great video as always. Thanks!
@07Convertable
@07Convertable 2 жыл бұрын
I just came off of a 2012 Vision. The biggest difference in my opinion is the wind management. The Vision is far superior in my opinion with wind and rain protection. My wife likes the Pursuit better for comfort having fallen asleep a few times. I miss my Vic but the little deer thought that it would look better as a hood ornament.
@ARCSSelfDefense
@ARCSSelfDefense 2 жыл бұрын
I also have a 2008 Vision. I haven't found anything close......
@tvstevie9594
@tvstevie9594 2 жыл бұрын
Good One Cruiseman. Your very thorough on your comparison's. Keep them coming!!!
@ZildjianMan30
@ZildjianMan30 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2022 Chief (air-cooled). Even on sweltering hot summer days, I can feel the difference in heat creep up my right leg and the frame bars underneath the seat. I test rode a Challenger this summer, during sweltering heat. This test bike was ridden non-stop all day by other test riders. I rode it during stop-n-go traffic on the interstate and I did not notice extra engine/pipe heat anywhere on my body.
@DH-pe5gt
@DH-pe5gt Жыл бұрын
Owned two Goldwings. Last GW was a 2016. I am 15 months into my new 2021 Indian Roadmaster. I loved my Honda Goldwings but I'll never go back. The Roadmaster is absolutely a blast to ride. It's comfortable hot looking and powerful. Lower center of gravity, easier to get on/off, even my wife gives it a thumbs up. The air-cooled V Twin can be hot in the summer but I got used to it. Technology beats the Honda. As an owner of both bikes, this is a very fair (true) and unbiased review. The Indian won me over with pizzaz. Cool Aid drinkin Harley guys (some I am close friends with) respect the Indian.
@erics9754
@erics9754 9 ай бұрын
My favorite is my Roadmaster fantastic bike. I do not care about how fast it is and beleive me it is plenty fast for me. I love the classic fender and overall looks just love the bike so much it has been rock solid and i am impressed with the build quality and the parts are so well made Indian hit it out of the park with the Master. You pay a lot for accessories but they are so well made its like 1950s quality over built. It really feels like the master of the rode riding it and eats highway miles like nothing even my wife loves it and feels safe with the huge passenger seat and wrap around feeling with the optional arm rest and drink holders. When i see another Roadmaster rider we give each other a knowing nod like we are in a inclusive club because we know how good our bikes are better than the Harleys and most people do not have this info and i am glad because it makes me feel like i have something special and am not just another Harley rider which is so common where i live. My bike stands out among the crowd of Harleys especially when i pass them broken down on the highway.
@jamzholm
@jamzholm 2 жыл бұрын
I have ridden the Indian Darkhorse Challenger and absolutely loved it! Same engine as the pursuit and as you stated had incredible power!!
@craigfavorito9050
@craigfavorito9050 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done review, probably your best... information was well organized and appropriatley brief but thorough. If the Pursuit wasn't so heavy, I'd consider it my next motorcycle. For now my 2020 BMW RT 1250 fits my touring needs, light weight + 130hp so goes when you want it too. Eager for the Wing vs. Pursuit show!
@LoneStarBBQ1
@LoneStarBBQ1 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. You knocked it out of the park. I own a 2012 GoldWing XM, 2016 Indian Scout (wives) and a 2017 Indian Chieftain. All brand new. My GW is used for two up long distance rides and as a parade bike.(Flags and all) I've done two IBA rides on it. My Chieftain has done 3 IBA rides and accentually my Preferred solo long distance bike. I just love my GW and Hondas day planner (that program is now no more) in making routes. So I just use the Indian day planner for both bikes now. And a big plus is Indian has a awesome app that syncs with my 2017 Chieftain (Info Tainment Center) telling me everything from tire pressure in each tire, tracks my ride if I want and to saving and showing my saved waypoint routes that I can choose to download into the bike in minutes. The GW's dependability gives me piece of mind. And after owning the Indian's I've got the same piece of mind with them. I love both brands and there's always room for both. Nothing is going to replace my GW, but I'm sure happy with my Indians Thanks for sharing your review.
@johnalvis9086
@johnalvis9086 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Indian for many reasons. I test road a Challenger and liked the power also. The only downside to Indian is the lack of dealers. I live in the Memphis, TN area where the local dealer went out of business. My friends have to drive over 150 miles to the closest dealership if something needs done by a dealership. I do like the fact that the Indian is putting pressure on the rest of the touring market to make better routing motorcycles.
@ken2tou
@ken2tou 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered using industrial strength Velcro? It should solve this issue.
@kevinfleury7739
@kevinfleury7739 2 жыл бұрын
Nice thorough review, Cruiseman. Thanks
@bruceglazer3581
@bruceglazer3581 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review. Well thought out and presented. I own a 2016 Willow Green/Cream Vintage. By far the most beautiful bike I have ever owned. The ride is exceptional, from engine feel to physical ride. The constant compliments everywhere I go have also helped to make it my wife's favorite!
@markowsley4954
@markowsley4954 2 жыл бұрын
A great honest review as usual. When comparing American vtwin touring bikes it can get interesting. Disclaimer I work for a HD dealer but in no way would I call myself a fanboy. The HD dressers in my opinion handle better especially at low speeds, they don't seem as too heavy as the Indian. However cruising down the road especially 2 up I feel the Indian rides much better, smooth or rough roads. My wife prefers the Indian pursuit and roadmasters for passenger comfort. I've had the chance to ride the goldwing , k1600gtl(awesome engine), Indiana and of course any HD made today. If I was in the market for a new bike I honestly don't know which one I would choose. As you said no bike is perfect, it comes down to what best works for you.
@johncox1505
@johncox1505 2 жыл бұрын
When I bought my 2018 Goldwing to finalize the deal I got all my accessories at 20% off. Being my third Goldwing I decided to really dress up. The labor cost just to install them was $1800 and that was before I decided to add the home link. With your maintenance videos, I was able to install everything except the accessory outlet for my phone. McAllister of Traxxion Dynamics has a video for that. I find it really gratifying doing all the work myself.
@luisvasquez2419
@luisvasquez2419 2 жыл бұрын
I also installed the accessories myself following your videos. The Pursuit comes with most of the accessories I had to add to my 2018 Goldwing, I think the price difference is a wash if you are planning to dress up your Goldwing. Bummer it doesn’t have reverse or hill start assist.
@voicesinmyhead7303
@voicesinmyhead7303 2 жыл бұрын
Great Review! Can't wait until your Wing comparison - I have a feeling it will be closer than I imagined. 😎
@raymonddietz429
@raymonddietz429 2 жыл бұрын
As always, a really nice, thoughtful and thorough review. Well done!
@philliphamner8353
@philliphamner8353 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, Indian is definitely in the running for my next bike.
@Info-Med
@Info-Med 2 жыл бұрын
One of the BEST reviews of a cruiser that I have ever sean ! Great Job
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@michaelschmitzerle2587
@michaelschmitzerle2587 2 жыл бұрын
Love those Indian motorcycles! They just keep getting better and better 👍
@johnnydangerously7186
@johnnydangerously7186 2 жыл бұрын
Indian continues to set the bar for luxury touring in American motorcycles. Both the Roadmaster and pursuit are silky smooth and have an abundance of power for Highway cruising. Been riding Indians since 2017.
@IDYLBERRY
@IDYLBERRY 2 жыл бұрын
As you're on the subject of touring motorcycles, if a chance presents itself to test a new Kawasaki Vulcan 1700 that would also be interesting.
@whatsupeh1
@whatsupeh1 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I bought my 2021 GoldWing Tour DCT and accessorized it to suit me and my significant other. I’ll be 70 in December, so figured this bike would take me to when I decide to hang up my riding boots for good. Your review has me rethinking that. I love the look of the bike and pretty much everything about it. I think it would actually be a better fit for my smallish 5’ 8” frame and probably more comfortable than my Wing. I’m looking forward to your comparison of the two. The only concern I would have is how substantial is the Indian Dealer network? Honda dealers / service centres are everywhere. We don’t even have an Indian dealer in our city and I don’t know where the nearest one would be. Even the nearest Harley dealer is 3.5 hours away! Oh… and does it have reverse? Not having that would probably be a deal breaker for me.
@Valkyrie0307
@Valkyrie0307 2 жыл бұрын
It does not have a reverse gear. I am the same height as you and I own both a 2018 Wing Tour and a 2022 Indian Challenger. The Indian allows for a straighter shot to the ground for my legs vs the Wing. Just my experience.
@notorioussob9445
@notorioussob9445 2 жыл бұрын
The wing is KING!!
@Katojones21
@Katojones21 2 жыл бұрын
Until the bmw k1600gtl arrives then it’s taking the seat away and the 7 kingdoms.
@Americanpatriot602
@Americanpatriot602 Жыл бұрын
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@scottpayne33
@scottpayne33 2 жыл бұрын
I also had lower back pain on my cross country with floorboards, it seems to go away for me with a drivers backrest.
@gregorytragitt2208
@gregorytragitt2208 2 жыл бұрын
You do a great job with your reviews. From my perspective the only reason that I would want to own an Indian is for long touring rides. There are much better choices for most other types of motorcycling.
@JamesChasingSunrises
@JamesChasingSunrises 2 жыл бұрын
Anxiously awaiting this video and I'm on time.
@shakazulu2815
@shakazulu2815 2 жыл бұрын
Love the straight review, and like you I'm a Goldwing man, but I do like what the Indian brings to the table.
@ChadGrimes
@ChadGrimes 2 жыл бұрын
My trunk liner has the same issue and they need to resolve it. I didn't know about the blinkers so I appreciate that bit of info. Putting taller handlebars on it really helps the ergos for me. I totally agree about the backup gear and back-lit switches, big miss on those two accounts. Certain parking situations are out of the question because there is no way I can muscle it up hill backwards on my own. However the handling is off the charts for me and is one of my favorite features. The power is also abundant, more than I usually need
@gmmq6882
@gmmq6882 Жыл бұрын
Another great review!!👍🏼👍🏼
@johnnyshd8250
@johnnyshd8250 2 жыл бұрын
A totally buffed and polished clear coat will show fine scratches easier than a little orange peel which allows a little more clear to buff and polish if you do get a scratch.
@neverendingsavagery8753
@neverendingsavagery8753 Жыл бұрын
Got a 22 Pursuit. Traded in a 16’ Street Glide. Love the Pursuit.
@danthemaintenanceman
@danthemaintenanceman 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 Goldwing and a 2007 Fatboy. The Goldwing is better in every category hands down. I watched your BMW review and now the Indian because I want to get rid of the Fatboy. So far it’s a new Goldwing but the Indian is definitely a contender.
@Nda540i
@Nda540i 2 жыл бұрын
As a Rebel 1100 owner who’s bike is drinking milk with plans of growing into a Goldwing I appreciate your videos for my decision making.
@matthewborgmann4221
@matthewborgmann4221 Жыл бұрын
So, there's locking nuts on the quick release levers for the trunk. If you plan on removing the trunk regularly, you can remove those locking nuts. With those there, maybe 5 minutes to take the saddle bags off and the locking nuts. If you removed them earlier, you can get the trunk off in 30 seconds.
@tmar0075
@tmar0075 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned 2 Indians a Vintage n a Roadmaster..never been dissapointed with the product..may consider a new one in the near future😊..excellent review by the way..Ride Safe
@brianalbee2881
@brianalbee2881 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a victory cross country for 7 yrs and loved it. Us victory owners believed the Challenger was the next bike in line to replace the cross country or the vision. I do agree the Indian should have put reverse on the bike as it would've attracted more potential owners. I ride with 2 ladies now who have Victory Visions and have ruled out the challenger due to the fact of no reverse. No center stand is also a big drawback for me now that i have one on my Wing. I also don't like where they put the air filter...too easy to break the fuel nipple off...as well as the battery. Again, same setup as the Victory bikes. I hated to do the air filter maintenance on my cross country as it was the same setup. Although my 16 wing air filter is no peach to do either...lol. My other reason for going to a wing instead of an Indian. About 200 Indian dealers in the US vs 900+ Honda dealers in the US. That is a huge difference if traveling across this great country. Many don't think like that but now more and more dealers aren't working on other mans bikes...Harley for example wont touch another mans bike. My group just encountered this this past week...needed a tire and fortunately we were able find a dealer to replace it for her.
@davidruggles996
@davidruggles996 2 жыл бұрын
As a long time rider of the Victory Vision, I see a lot of common Polaris traits in the Challenger and Pursuit. Hopefully I ride the Vision for a while longer but the GW and Indian are top of my list for replacements. Thanks for the great review Cruiseman.
@victoryvisiontour
@victoryvisiontour 2 жыл бұрын
I've been riding a Victory Vision for 14 years now and 106k miles. Ride it to work every day of the year there isn't snow or ice on the road. It's been a great bike. Never replaced anything on the motor except the spark plug. I only see two motorcycles that could possibly replace it when the time comes, Goldwing and Pursuit.
@mljacobs3
@mljacobs3 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Victory Vision from 2016 to 2020 and absolutely loved it! I only sold because of seat height issues: 2” lower kit caused damaged and it wasn’t as comfortable without it. I traded it for 2020 Indian Roadmaster which is a wonderful bike, but had a very different feel and didn’t inspire the same kind of love. I’ve done a few demo rides on the Pursuit and feel like it’s a spiritual successor to the Vision - I’m picking up my new Pursuit tomorrow!
@07Convertable
@07Convertable 2 жыл бұрын
You will like the Pursuit! Even though both the Vision and the Pursuit are roughly the same weight, the Pursuit has its weight sitting lower so it is easier to handle in a parking lot. But just like the Vision, once you get going it feels like a sport bike.😁
@bradmoran2609
@bradmoran2609 Жыл бұрын
I test rode a Pursuit yesterday, and my first thought was it was like riding a Vision in handling, weight, ergonomics.
@Msrverpilot
@Msrverpilot 2 жыл бұрын
I've riden the Challenger and Liked it it, I think the Indian is one of the BEST Balanced bikes out there. The Challenger _ PURSUIT, looks good, I'll have to go Ride one Now, ( MY WIFE WILL put me in the dog house AGAIN, since I've just gotten a NEW GW,(2022DCT TOUR). I do think that @ 33K the bike is priced HIGH.... Thanks Chris for your time and knowledge ...
@Yankeeman1954
@Yankeeman1954 2 жыл бұрын
How about a review of the 2022 or 2023 BMW Transcontinental?
@jimtomstimpson1477
@jimtomstimpson1477 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this thorough review. I ride a 2020 Roadmaster and it is my dream bike!
@nealfeikema5161
@nealfeikema5161 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice job of evaluating the bike. Might be nice to see what you think of the 'other' modern V-twin. .... The Yamaha Venture.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Been trying to get Yamaha to work with. They show no interest. Yet.
@frankward8003
@frankward8003 2 жыл бұрын
Why review it now..it's been discontinued..nobody wants to buy it.
@whdbnrm3023
@whdbnrm3023 2 жыл бұрын
They can't give them away . How many do you see on the street ?
@billgraham4630
@billgraham4630 2 жыл бұрын
I have a yamaha 2020 starventure it is awesome also , fully loaded comfortable and powerful 5year warranty handles like a dream it can compete with the goldwing or the Indian Love mine!
@chadgruver4423
@chadgruver4423 2 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@steve28849
@steve28849 2 жыл бұрын
how do you get around dealer support? if you're out on the road on a cross country trip, the most prolific dealers are HD and Honda
@kenhowitt7248
@kenhowitt7248 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review...Thanks!
@firbyd
@firbyd 2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing, wasn't expecting a short stroker in this bike. #'s are on time, and bike sounds awesome! Tech needs to come up some I hear, though traction control side and forward, nice touch! And, love the Fox setup from factory giving it the best American ride in the business! Low seat height and tall ride, I likes the Challenger aka hyped out to a "Pursuit!" Good video, and review, thanks! I will think more about the "caveats 🙂
@davidefland1985
@davidefland1985 2 жыл бұрын
Best review l ever seen. I subscribed.
@briandouglas2476
@briandouglas2476 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I'm actually considering trading in my 2020 Goldwing for a 2023 Goldwing when it comes out. But I'm going to have to throw this Indian Pursuit in the mix now. Great video!
@GT-sj3si
@GT-sj3si 2 жыл бұрын
That unit has a few extras on it, it's not the base Pursuit (didn't catch you pointing that out till near the end of the video) The storage cubbies and the driving lights in the lowers, and the saddle bag lights are optional unless you order a more premium model.
@RanGer-498
@RanGer-498 2 жыл бұрын
Honda needs to make their head unit screen as well as the indian one. What i like about the indian -the 400-Watt PowerBand Audio -Rear Cylinder Deactivation -SMART LEAN TECHNOLOGY -Bosch six-axis IMU -DYNAMIC TRACTION CONTROL WITH CORNERING CONTROL -ABS WITH CORNERING CONTROL -DRAG TORQUE CONTROL I also like the seat they have that provides both heat as well as cold seating.
@charlieg.6242
@charlieg.6242 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, great vlog. Thx
@neilhendley1119
@neilhendley1119 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the reverse gear of the 2019 GW. Otherwise, I have received a lot more compliments of my 2020 Challenger. Both, great rides.
@joedunne9492
@joedunne9492 2 жыл бұрын
I own a pursuit and it is fantastic and I agree with everything you said, would love reverse. One thing you didn’t mention is character and the Indian really stands out here. I have owned close to twenty bikes in my 40 years of riding and the thing that makes me continue to ride is the freedom and that when I get off the bike does it make me turn around for a second look. The Pursuit does that and the wing never did. Wings are fantastic machine but just don’t have the look for me.
@johnparry690
@johnparry690 Жыл бұрын
I just ran across this. First, it's an excellent review. I believe in giving credit where it's due. I almost wrote you off after you struggled (mightily) with your BMW K1600GTL review series. But this Indian review hit the mark. I think mostly because the Indian is a much closer comparison to the GW than the BMW, and better fits your style of riding. Anyway, again, nice job.
@alp3781
@alp3781 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review. I was waiting for it. I have to agree with you on the feelings to steer to the Indian. I feel so the same. However, this bike is not cheap, these day. No deals, no insensitive at all. I could not see myself sparing that amount. Second, the lack of reverse and center stand and again dealing with breaking the bike apart for air filter, naaaaaaa! I am staying with my GW. By now, it has everything I need and some good accessories. I have no doubt reverse is coming. For now, I will watch Indian adding more updates and then will see. The bottom line, Honda got me hooked good on the 6th Gen. Safe ride…..!!!
@Valkyrie0307
@Valkyrie0307 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the replacement of the air filter on the Indian any day over the GoldWing air filter…. Way easier on the Indian. 👍🏼
@asianman4250
@asianman4250 2 жыл бұрын
may be unrelated but I wonder why kavasaki vulcan 2000 was discontinued? any answers will be appreciated
@phillombardi7978
@phillombardi7978 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I was able to demo the dark horse premium myself. It was some machine and agree with you on many things. I’m currently on an Indian Springfield witch I love but this is a definite upgrade ✌🏼🇺🇸
@danesth
@danesth 2 жыл бұрын
I have tested Pursuit few weeks ago. I agree with all your comments except about the finishes wich seems cheap for a bike of this price. Comparing with BMW k16 or a Triumph Rocket 3.
@robertlewis3712
@robertlewis3712 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. I thought the review was extremely fair. Good job
@Bass.Player
@Bass.Player Жыл бұрын
Never ridden one but I have had two Goldwing 1800's. Indian will need a better Dealer network to actually compete.
@ahmedalismaili9301
@ahmedalismaili9301 2 жыл бұрын
The goldwing is number one
@muzic3966
@muzic3966 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on the review.
@w.glennrobbins1799
@w.glennrobbins1799 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 roadmaster, love it
@Big-Si2253
@Big-Si2253 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! 👋 All the pertinent information, and well presented. If the Challenger or Pursuit had a reverse gear, I would order one tomorrow. As a 2020 Goldwing bagger owner I look forward to the 'Wing v Pursuit head to head.
@shakazulu2815
@shakazulu2815 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Indian Pursuit is the best ' v twin' luxury touring, hands down!
@ThinkinMan
@ThinkinMan Жыл бұрын
You do not need to remove the saddlebags to remove the trunk. There is a quick disconnect connector for the power to the seat and quick disconnect latches to remove the trunk it takes zero tools and maybe 2 mins. It is heavier than you may think. So be prepared
@BuGhaith
@BuGhaith 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video , you have been missed, keep them coming 👍👍
@RanGer-498
@RanGer-498 2 жыл бұрын
He just posted a video 5 days ago.
@452jman
@452jman 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the in-depth review!!!
@F6B_ADVENTURES
@F6B_ADVENTURES 2 жыл бұрын
What’s this I hear you’re a part of chapter R out in Lewisville?
@chrishunter5041
@chrishunter5041 2 жыл бұрын
Good review, changing the air filter on the Wings not a doddle.
@Charlie-fc1mh
@Charlie-fc1mh 2 жыл бұрын
Hi CG, I just wanted to see what you thought about doing a stage 1 or 2 flash tune on the Gold Wing? I know you would lose your warranty. I'm wondering if it would wear out the motor prematurely or anything. I can't find anything on u tube about flashing a gold wing
@rogerkaschman404
@rogerkaschman404 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Love this Chanel thank you
@ramonbostic
@ramonbostic 2 жыл бұрын
Just for a fun conversation, how about a comparison between the BMW and the Indian?
@davechatfield2407
@davechatfield2407 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Even better, I like the idea of a 3 way comparison between the Pursuit, the Gold Wing, and the GTL.
@robertmercer9117
@robertmercer9117 2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough review. But $33K and 900 pounds and does not have reverse or centerstand or hillhold or shift assist is a deal breaker for me, no matter how good the tech and comfort is. Soft clearcoat and other quality issues that you experienced are also concerning for $33K. How about resale value? Your 4.5 overall was a bit high, in my opinion.
@yosam5184
@yosam5184 2 жыл бұрын
Never owned an Indian however this is the one I would if I were younger...LOL! Matter of fact never owned a BMW either. The Goldwing was my all-time favorite long distance tourer till I got a Victory Vision. My goodness never had an uglier looking bike fit me so well and what a comfortable ride. That electric windshield is so convenient. Enjoyed your review. Now back to my Harley.....ha ha!
@136brando
@136brando 2 жыл бұрын
have you seen the Kenwood front and back camera for your bike looks pretty good
@ALRRC2010
@ALRRC2010 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review. But, what about the mpg with a 6 gallon tank? Just kinda curious.
@joedunne9492
@joedunne9492 2 жыл бұрын
I get avg 45 to 48 on my Pursuit
@YuksekCCYouTube
@YuksekCCYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
great review 👌👌
@maxw576
@maxw576 2 жыл бұрын
I love the look, comfort, power and tech of the Pursuit. I didn't care for the forward foot placement or low speed handling. I'd have to get past that to purchase. I'm going to take a couple more test rides next spring to give it another chance.
@frankward8003
@frankward8003 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Indians...I really do...but the fairing is just so boxy and ugly on this bike. The Chiefton fairing looks much nicer IMO
@thanosetsitty1896
@thanosetsitty1896 2 жыл бұрын
I test road this bike and the Harley Road Glide CVO and found out that they are both comfortable but that’s with little weight and short distance. I was very impressed with the infotainment system on the pursuit than the Harley. I just wished that I had my wife with me so she can tell me what she thinks. I would have to take them on a long distance ride to make the proper assessment. But that ain’t gonna happen.
@roadglide
@roadglide 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great bike. It’s done it’s homework against it’s largest competitor. No question. For me however. The luxury of the DCT, stop and go City or the ever construction present highway traffic, the buttery Lexus smooth DCT just rolls along. It’s so slick and quick it just can’t be out- shifted. It’s absolutely spoiled me. At stops, a twist and it’s by-byo! Those Staged V-Twins in my mirror. 😂 Nope, no more repetitive rowing of gears, and the mental effort expended thinking about it either. That’s just for starters. The good thing is, motorcycles are like ice cream. Flavors for everyone. Any day on two wheels is a good day.
@frankward8003
@frankward8003 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. It's ashame the bike doesn't have a reverse....or hill stop assist...or a centerstand..or AA...seems like those features would be easy to add and a bike in this class should have those features.
@roadglide
@roadglide 2 жыл бұрын
And at $30k to boot! The Gold Wing spoils a person.
@frankward8003
@frankward8003 2 жыл бұрын
@@roadglide yes the Gold Wing spoils you..especally that flat 6 engine.
@UnrulyRider
@UnrulyRider 2 жыл бұрын
At 6'2" and 191lbs... I don't need or want any of those things.
@frankward8003
@frankward8003 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnrulyRider That's fine its just most people do want those things with a luxury touring machine
@UnrulyRider
@UnrulyRider 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankward8003 I bought a base model, slightly used but low miles 2020 Challenger. Adding the removable tour pack eventually, but have no use for lowers or anything else that the Pursuit model offered. Many people want a base model platform. Build the bike up with aftermarket/custom parts as you go. I agree, there should be a premium tier fully optioned out machine. And the Limited or Elite model could fit that niche at there price. Though a lower price-point entry level model offers the best value to most buyers as they will be making the bike their own with custom/aftermarket parts. I feel a reverse gear is overrated to most riders that have never had it on previous motorcycles. A center stand could be useful, but oil changes on the PowerPlus 108 engine are designed to be done while on the kickstand. The location of the oil drain plug makes this pretty obvious. It's a 15-20min job from start to finish with the proper low-profile motorcycle drain pan. Hill-stop-assist seems like something that would be easy enough to implement in the future. Would require the proper electronics/switch, wiring, and line-lock type solenoid connected to the brake line to hold the brake pressure. Something like this could probably be developed as an aftermarket add-on without too much difficulty... if it doesn't already exist.
@DavidSmith-fw6uj
@DavidSmith-fw6uj 2 жыл бұрын
I am like you I am impressed with Indian‘s modern motorcycles 🍀 they are very hard to find in the dealers 🔥 looking forward to seeing the next Video 🐝 Love from Mississippi
@David-yp4fl
@David-yp4fl 2 жыл бұрын
Love from Mississippi USA 🇺🇲
@martingaughan2419
@martingaughan2419 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative review, bikes a looker for sure but not really suited to our road's in England so I'll stick with my Africa Twin for touring
@nbowling10trio
@nbowling10trio 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, it appears the pursuit is trying to take top touring motorcycle period. I see the chieftain as being more of a Harley competitor. I would have a barn full of bikes if I had the money. 😁
@thegolfingmusician6345
@thegolfingmusician6345 Жыл бұрын
I never knew that Trey Gowdy rode touring bikes? Very cool.
@masterspin7796
@masterspin7796 2 жыл бұрын
Bought a 2022 BMW 1250 R/T been on it since December so far so good but having reverse would be cooler...
@randyb6
@randyb6 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the feel of the center of gravity on the Indian Pursuit? High, low, or somewhere in between?
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 2 жыл бұрын
High
@savagestan2543
@savagestan2543 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Been riding GW's for over 25 years and thinking about an Indian, then ran across your video. I like things simple, and would trade all that tech for a reverse gear and a center stand, on a bike around 900 lbs. Would have liked to here a review on the sound system. As someone who suffers from low back pain, I might want to Frankenstein a rider backrest, like I did as a kid with my Exciter and Virago. A real genius might even devise a detachable passenger backrest that would lock in for the rider. 2024 might be to soon to hope for a reverse gear, but that would be a huge improvement. By the way, C & E Indian Dealer of Auburn California just quoted me $38,550.97. Which includes $1700 freight charge and $400 Dealer prep. Unless, I want to include accessories.
@RafaelJimenez-hz9gu
@RafaelJimenez-hz9gu Жыл бұрын
I really like your review. If they ever made a factory trike I would buy one Thank you.
@regrcm
@regrcm 2 жыл бұрын
Good video!
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