Is the 2022 Kia Forte GT2 a BETTER sport sedan than a Honda Civic Si?

[@chrisnistroses9972]

Kia, Hyundai, and genesis really said to themselves “let’s make better cars” and they did it.

[@lexusbruh904]

Facts! They've come a long way

[@Rory695]

lets make your car catch fire while youre driving it

[@bsdetector837]

Styling is meh. Ill never buy korean cars but they seem to be improving.

[@whatsindansgarage2542]

Till they fixed their engine fire.

[@syn3rgyz]

if only they can make their dealerships better

[@thefray123]

Vented seats, 360 sensors, 10.25” nav for 26k brand new. Incredible what you can get for your dollar, especially in these times. Appreciate your great review as always Joe! It’s been a while since I’ve tuned in but you certainly have not missed A STEP! Keep killing the game good sir 👌🏼

[@RaitisRides]

They really are bringing value David!

[@issavibez394]

But resale value sucks in Korean cars

[@Messametti]

@@issavibez394 If you drive them for ages its an advantage. Got my 2 year old 33000km Stinger GT for 37000€, instead of paying 58000€ for a new one which i could never afford.

[@jorgelinares9719]

That's msrp there's a 2000 mark up and 3000 for gt trim level so it'll be 31000

[@mikelreyna878]

@@jorgelinares9719 I live in Michigan. I paid MSRP for my 22 GT Manual. $25,760.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I just bought a 2023 GT. I am surprised that it actually has exhaust sound. Nothing overwhelming but it has a little growl to it. Only have 300 miles on it but so far I am really impressed with it so far.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@Special K I already have 2700 on mine. Had it 3 1/2 weeks.

[@crobiyt3346]

@@DadsGarageDIY How much was the 23 gt?

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@crobiyt3346 $25,300 including destination.

[@crobiyt3346]

@@DadsGarageDIY Did u get the Gt2 package also?

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@crobiyt3346 Just GT1. Mine is a daily driver so I can keep miles off my toy so I really just wanted a GT1. But, the GT2 is a seriously good bargain.

[@anniepetersen7225]

This deserves WAY more hype!! I bought mine back in December and am absolutely amazed with it! I test drove the 2022 Elantra, civic and the Corolla and by far this car was my favorite out of all of them! It also was the most inexpensive and came with the most features! It is so fun to drive bc it handles so well, if you pop it into to sport mode you will be shocked with the amount of turbo noises it makes and it’s awesome! It is great on gas, I average about 25 mpg around town and almost 34 on the highway! If your looking for a luxury sporty sedan definitely check this out! PSA don’t listen to anyone who tells you that Kia’s suck bc they have come a long way from what they used to be and now have much better reliability ratings and quality! I am 4k miles in and haven’t ran into any issues, I also have an 04 optima that’s 100k miles strong with not a single issue whatsoever :)

[@anniepetersen7225]

@Carter Dean awesome!! 19k miles and not one issue! Great on gas, awesome features!

[@omardelamora1563]

@@anniepetersen7225 great to hear. just got a 2023.🙂

[@scott1978able]

I used to have a hyundai elantra. I Just bought 2023 kia forte I love it mini sports car

[@maoinc13]

I just bought a 2023 Kia Forte GT2 Turbo baby 🎉🎉🎉 and I love it 😁

[@user-bs3gf1hz3j]

Annie, I got my Sporty Blue '22 GT2 back in Nov of 21, got lucky to be the 1st person in my area to own it. I got the DCT, I did swap out the KUMHO tires for better handling Good Year and I also added a easy modification that is getting me 250HP from the 201HP rated factory. It will get up and get it. Love this car

[@bworthen12489]

Just bought a 22 GT2 absolutely in love with this car. Fun to drive, great on gas, great styling, and best bang for the buck. Love this color I have the gravity grey only one they had left so I took it but totally in love with this color

[@HuggableLoveablePlushies]

I got one last month, too! I agree with everything you’ve said!

[@NotfromLI]

I got the only one in the same package and color on the show room. Props for the salesman for holding the keys for me people were coming in for that one. Great car for the price.

[@crobiyt3346]

How much did u spend? I was thinking of getting one.

[@I777-w3e]

Let me know how that car holds up

[@garretoien]

What color is in the video?

[@fivefive3689]

Just picked up a 2024. My dealship/auto pled has over 1100 cars on lot, only 8 of which are manual transmission. I bought this in a manual. Loving it

[@HighCarbJoey]

What's the clutch like? Is it super light? Are the throws into gear long or short? I've been thinking of purchasing one in manual as well

[@henrybrar]

Kia and Hyundai need to pay extra to designers and keep them, they killing with their looks. Just saw a Black EV-6 yesterday and damn that thing is so handsome.

[@long_fellow]

FYI They stole all the top designers from BMW and Benz about 10 years ago, paying them unprecedented amounts of money lol. Now see what happened to those brands...

[@issavibez394]

They resale value is garbage

[@alexj0409]

​@@issavibez394 slowly going up. Look up the Forte GT used right now.

[@ATRichard]

@@issavibez394 Look at Telluride values. People are selling them for more than when they bought them new!

[@ES350gitgapped]

@@ATRichard That's just about every vehicle right now and will be until the shortages are fixed. The selfish behavior of quickly selling a vehicle for a profit is a big reason why many dealers are selling $3k-$6k over MSRP now. I'll have to fly to my home state and stay a night or two to pick up my Forte GT manual whenever that comes in to avoid the markups at my local dealerships. That said, Hyundai's brand image has sharply improved. Kia is still largely viewed as the "engine bay fire" brand for no real reason except mama and papa drive a 2003 Ford F150 and it ain't never caught on no dang fahr (fire)

[@FunWithTheBugs]

Glad to see they put dual climate control in this year. I have a 2021 GT and there wasn't even an option to get it. I agree with the car being a little finicky in lower gears. It will sometimes have this little hesitation at lower speeds. Couldn't be happier with it though. The amount of car you get for the money is unmatched. You even get lane driving assist and smart cruise control.

[@donniebrasco6590]

Odd...I have a 2021 Forte GT and mine has dual climate controls. Maybe because I'm in Canada....

[@FunWithTheBugs]

@@donniebrasco6590 Yeah, dual climate was available outside the US but for some reason they didn't offer it in the US.

[@jayh488]

Well I’m glad to hear that they have that hesitation at lower gears. I thought I got a faulty GT 😩

[@jbshp2011]

@@jayh488 you did🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@tylerstrong2746]

I have a 2020 GT and its great. I used to have a GTI and it was breaking down all the time. My GT is under warranty for another 70k miles

[@ianchantiri1070]

Bought the 22 forte GT about a month ago and I’m in love with it. I get on average about 30 mpg and if I wanna go fast I have that option. NO REGRETS

[@ProfHeywood]

Watched your review on this car about 20 times, finally placed an order yesterday 2022 Forte Gt with the g2 package in sporty blue. thanks for all you do!

[@rycherman1]

I bought a 2021 Forte GT2 and I absolutely love it. I test drove everything and you cannot beat this car for what you get in this price range. It’s better than most cars that are $10k more. The quality of the interior is unmatched and the amount of extras you get in this thing are far better than any other car under the $35k price tag. The Honda Si has nothing on this car.

[@richardfromtoronto]

i have a 22 and agree 100%

[@mjrd1978]

My 21 GT2 has 9,800 miles. I bought it for 26k almost a year and a half ago and right now KBB has is listed at 27-28,500. Amazing, the GT2 is just so hard to find.

[@cabbagehead8082]

Depends on how you drive. If you drive hard the si differential would leave the Forte in the dust on a track

[@maoinc13]

​@@cabbagehead8082nope 👎

[@cabbagehead8082]

@@maoinc13 What do you mean? Look up the track times ya rocket scientist

[@gavina1895]

Bought the 22 GT2, bought 8 months ago, quite impressed, really happy with the car. Pretty to look at with a little kick for fun.. Nice work KIA... 👏 👌 👍

[@riv.k1302]

Wat color

[@gavina1895]

Metallic grey, steel grey

[@kishona69]

Joe : Red means race. Go fast! Me looking at the 🚦: ON THROTTLE!!! As usual, thanks for sharing Team Raiti. Love your uploads.

[@RaitisRides]

You are so awesome! Thanks for sharing the ON THROTTLE with me!

[@ricksmith9938]

I have the 2021 GT, I have put about 9000 miles on it and have had no issues at all. This is a really fun car to drive and I love the steering, it handles like a dream. The Honda handling for me sucked and did not hold the road well at all. If you like to zip around town in a stylish compact sport sedan for cheap, check the KIA out, you won't be disappointed.

[@nervous_vegan2077]

Thank Raiti! You sold me on my g70 and now that I’m looking at a forte gt2 this week you post a review! You’re the man. No major channel has done a review yet.

[@guyblac48]

I love it when Joe says “TO THE DOOR PANELS “.

[@AftanTutorials]

I bought this car some months ago the dots on the door and the Gt badge inside do also light up as part of the gt2 ambeint lighting, its a small detail but would like to add that, this car at night looks amazing.

[@brettriley5762]

I have the basic GT package and the doors still do that as well. Doesn’t require the GT2 package. And yes I have it set to that “Kia Purple” really pops with all the red at night 🤩

[@derekintrovert5619]

Thanks for Sharing been comparing this with Civic

[@maoinc13]

Right !! He called it fake carbon fiber 😂😂😂

[@chabbysrides]

You were right Joe! This is right up my alley! Just bought a new Forte GT Manual and I love it. Great little car! Great review Joe! Thanks

[@GR33ZY.A1]

Front doors have lights behind the handle when you unlock the car at night! Love my 2021 kia forte GT!

[@justinwieduwilt5420]

Just bought one of these, 23 GT manual. I love that the manual version is it’s own unique trim level… it’s the perfect spec for me, lots of upgrades over the GT1 but not as expensive as the GT2. Anyway, I test drove pretty much everything currently available with a manual that is even remotely sporty and around 35k and under (Civic SI, used Type R, Integra A-spec, Elantra N, GTI, Jetta GLI, Mazda 3 hatchback, WRX, used Veloster N, Miata, Mini Cooper S and JCW) and let me tell you, this is by far the best new car value around. I actually had a chance to get a Civic SI at MSRP and still chose the Forte GT over it. Could have got a new GLI for under MSRP, but it still seemed overpriced in comparison, aside from having the noticeably superior engine. The performance on the GT is respectable but isn’t on the same level as the others, but they are all more expensive so that’s kind of to be expected. But what really won me over on this car is the interior, it’s just really comfortable and well laid out to me. Everything just falls into place and feels easy to use and intuitive, the tech integrates in a seamless way, it’s got all the bells and whistles but doesn’t feel overly complicated, and everything just feels right to me ergonomically… It’s not trying to do too much, and it’s better for it. While other manufacturers, in a misguided pursuit of trying to appear high-tech and modern, seem to be making the user interfaces less user friendly and harder to safely operate while driving, its like KIA listened to how actual customers driving actual cars want to interact with the vehicle. No one ever asked for Haptic Touch buttons on the steering wheel, no one ever asked to bury climate control settings in some sub-menu on a giant screen, etc…

[@rolandcastro9272]

I bought my wife a 2021 kia forte gt2 and she loves it and it performs very well on the roads

[@connermt74]

Just bought a 2022 GT with GT2 package a couple weeks ago. I enjoy it. Put my MPS4s on it last week. The dash’s GT badge is backlit on mine. The amount of options the car has is outstanding for the price. The 1.6 engine is outstanding. Car feels a lot more powerful in gears 3 and up than 1 & 2. I wish the steering wheel rim was thicker. You can’t use the cruise with the traction control off which stinks. The up and down radio button on the steering wheel seems reversed from what I expected. The auto steer feature works here better than our 2020 RAV4’s by a mile.

[@johnm7882]

Joe said MSRP is $26,000 for the GT2. If you don't mind me asking. How much did you get yours for? I ask because many dealers are marking up the price like crazy on alot of cars.

[@mjrd1978]

@@johnm7882 I think it depends on where you live. In San Diego, i think i can get around 27,000 for my used 21 GT2. The market is wild right now.

[@johnm7882]

@@mjrd1978 Thank you. I appreciate your reply.

[@parish5473]

"You could easily put 6 Twinkies here and not bust cream." This man Joe is out of control. 🤣🤣 Great review as usual! Car is looking sharp!

[@tailorthetrucker7357]

best selling point ever🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@donaldherzogdrummer8738]

Big Kia fan here. Maybe my next car could be this one. Good job as always!!!!

[@HuggableLoveablePlushies]

Yaaaaaaaas. Do it! It’s worth it!

[@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan]

Yes!! This is all I been waiting for this one. Also I will be praying that I will be able to afford one of the vehicles like this someday with the best price of course. Overall, fantastic job and review joe.

[@RaitisRides]

Awesome Jeremiah! I’m sure you will be able to do it!

[@TheBonezTV]

I have a GT2 forte personally with intake exhaust plugs blow off valve and tune it’s amazing! Love it pushing 230 hp to the wheels

[@ES350gitgapped]

Email tune or custom? I blew up my 2016 Koup SX on a Tork tune because the fuel line would kink under load and I didn't want to go through the trouble of replacing the line with a steel braided one. Should have went with SXTH anyway although I blame myself for blowing a shortblock and turbo.

[@justincredible1990]

You know what? For $26,000 this car is really a bang for your buck. I'm really impressed with all they've packed into the interior at this price point. Heated AND ventilated seats? You're not getting ventilated seats even in $70,000+ BMWs. I also love that it has a DCT, which you don't really find at this price point. Same goes for rear ac vents and usb connection. You're not getting that in the Civic, Elantra, Corolla, or even the Mazda 3. I think it has the Civic SI beat on interior quality because the SI has been stripped down a little for performance. However, the SI's engine is more economical, especially as Hondata has proven that it's faster than its 200hp rating, and in a slightly smaller engine. I love the look of the rear too. The only thing I'd zonk on the outside is the placement of the reverse lights and turn signals. I'd also only zonk the center armrest on the interior too. Btw, great sounding pops and bangs! Joe, would you say this is a better car than the Corolla Apex though? Btw, the shades of red look the same to me lol

[@ordinarygamer1353]

I am cross shopping this, a Honda Civic si, and a apex and if you want the best mpg/ reliability get the apex but it’s gonna be a lot slower than the civic or kia. Kia is going to be the fastest if that’s what you care about. It’s also the only one with heated/ ventilated seats!

[@justincredible1990]

@@ordinarygamer1353 Good list there. It all comes down to what you want out of the car and what your lifestyle is like. If you're a family man then the Kia stands out for creature comforts, but if you want the daily driver experience while just looking cool doing it, the SI is for you. If your pockets aren't that deep and you want something you can drive for ages without worrying about it breaking down, then it's the Apex. That's how I see it anyway. I think you should also consider the Elantra N too. It's another stunning car in this class, although it's not as practical as its rivals when it comes to being a daily driver.

[@ordinarygamer1353]

@@justincredible1990 I love the Elantra N but it’s about 6k more expensive

[@gatt1375]

Just bought mine brand new off the truck 2022 GT2 forte fully loaded. LOVE IT.

[@chrisgnonya]

It's nice to see Kia doing what Toyota used to do. An entry level car that's fun and not boring. It's great that there is a quick little car that almost anyone can afford.

[@sergeantsausage2609]

That's literally still what they do, the Corolla hatch is fantastic. It's slower, but it's built right.

[@amill1563]

I'm a Honda guy but this looks like a strong option.

[@RaitisRides]

I agree with you Toby. Especially if you expect a little more from your interior.

[@randomuserame]

KIA has been "back from the dead" for about 5-10 years now. They're just coming out of their "sleeper" phase. Stinger was the "grand re-entrance" Get em' while the prices are still low!

[@rickjohansson4257]

A Honda will still last twice as long as this car, for people who don’t care to buy cars every 5 years.

[@amill1563]

@@rickjohansson4257 Probably true. I have 450k mi for mine.

[@chadtremblay9818]

If you’re looking, BUY IT. It’s super fun, I absolutely love mine. It’s got just enough kick to have a ton of fun, the DCT is always ready. They nailed the tuning. Side note: the red is the same, it’s a perception thing, especially with how bright it is because it’s embedded almost into the honeycomb. (Mine match, at least 😝)

[@maoinc13]

I just bought the 2023 Kia forte GT 🎉🎉🎉 and it's awesome 😎👍

[@laksonofam5214]

Hey Joe, thank you for reviewing the Kia Forte GT...it was based on your review that my 18 yr old and I made our decision to get one.

[@RaitisRides]

That is so wonderful! Thank you for your support!

[@JacobHall1601]

In Australia this is called the Cerato GT and it and the I30 N Line (Elantra GT Nline) are both probably the best examples of where the 7 speed DCT works, in a lot of other cars the fine just doesn’t work

[@sergiorivas8755]

Raiti, please test the same car but with 6 MT. I got one 2 weeks ago and it is very fun car. Manuals came with Michelin Pilot 4 Sport tires.

[@brettriley5762]

Just got my 2022 Kia Forte GT (unfortunately not GT2) in Gravity Grey. Let me tell you, I LOVE it. Very sharp. The headlight redesign really goes a long way for me. Very, very sharp. Even though I own it I still had to watch this video from start to finish. You do such a great job detailing everything and keeping it entertaining.

[@brettriley5762]

Side note: the “carbon fiber” on top of the gloss black on the interior of the front doors actually illuminate and change colors. Very noticeable at night. On the Infotainment you can adjust to I think 36 different colors. That nifty little GT badge on the aluminum also illuminates in tandem with the doors 👍👍

[@roccodifranco7866]

Gt 2 is heavier and other than the stereo its not worth it

[@ethanlau279]

The value for money is definitely there! Love how Kia offers the DCT option for those who don't want a manual (although manual is certainly the more fun option).

[@JulezWinnfield]

Not everyone wants a manual transmission.

[@jaredr9740]

@@JulezWinnfield no shit Sherlock

[@JulezWinnfield]

@@jaredr9740 Who is Sherlock?

[@AnythingAutomotive1]

@@JulezWinnfield Your mom

[@JulezWinnfield]

@@AnythingAutomotive1 My mothers name isn't Sherlock so your statement is inaccurate.

[@Eblitzz]

I bought this exact same car 3 weeks ago and I’m in love with it.

[@johnbelushi8719]

For $32k?

[@RaitisRides]

That is awesome! Congrats!

[@RaitisRides]

@@johnbelushi8719 great question

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Did you get the premium packages?

[@Eblitzz]

@@johnbelushi8719 yes, 32k after taxes and some extra things with gt2 package.

[@digitalfutur]

Great review Joe. One of the nicer looking front ends. Nothing looks off and it's all well proportioned with a nice color balance. The license plate holder below the bumper is a nice touch and fairly rare at this price point.

[@RaitisRides]

So very true! Thanks for tuning in!

[@LS1007]

Nice little car. A lot of bang for the bucks. Manual transmission would pump up the fun factor a bit. I could do without the added red trim, it reminds me of the original Batmobile. Thanks Joe and Lori. Great review and camera work! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

[@RaitisRides]

That’s a good analogy!

[@randomuserame]

It comes in manual! (lose some GT2 addon features though)

[@larkspur3]

I got the bat mobile vibe from it too!

[@benji10x45]

I have the 2020 Forte GT with manual and can confirm the fun factor.

[@thatguydylan314]

As someone who doesn't understand manuals, I like that the Forte has a DCT! In looks and styling, I'd go with the Civic Si, but this one might win in most other categories

[@lavarjohnson3200]

Thanks again for the information on the Kia Forte GT, I love the car and considering getting that one next, I love the options and the price of it, it has more options then my car have and my car costed more then that one and my car was a used one. Great advertising and thank you Lori for a great job with the Camera.

[@mikedaleiden7725]

Nice balanced review. This Forte GT2 is an excellent alternative to the Elantra N Line for those of us that can't get over that awkward grill on the Elantra. I'd go manual, but really wouldn't miss a LSDiff on the street at these modest 200 hp power levels.

[@richardfromtoronto]

the Elantra NLine.. definitely not front plate friendly :|

[@alexj0409]

If people need more reassurance; I bought a 2020 Kia Forte GT back in April 2020. I picked manual transmission, because I prefer stick shift. I missed out on dual climate and the sliding arm rest, everything else is roughly the same. Over two years of ownership, and I still smile in my car, like I just picked it up off the lot.

[@crazmage2678]

I own a 2021 Forte GT with the 6 speed and I love it.

[@robray7106]

Joe, as the camera panned out and up, the red in the grill and on the bumper look exactly the same. I think the angle affects how the color looks. Just my .02. BTW, you guys are really fun to watch.✌👍😎

[@noobeenaut]

I've been waiting for this one for a while! Hoping to pick one of these up in a couple years to replace my aging beater

[@RaitisRides]

I am sure you will be able to do it!

[@Teresa-xq5ut]

Yesterday I bought the 2023 GT DCT in Sport blue. I'm in love! All the bells and whistles and so fun to drive.

[@mccali2519]

Nice my dude i like it 200hp and it has rear vents compare to the elantra corolla civic sentra gotta keep my rear passengers cool or warm 👍

[@larryadams4465]

Yep you do have a point and I also like the design and the price wise

[@vincevince9465]

Kia and Hyundai they sure are stepping up

[@RaitisRides]

This is very true about the passengers.

[@RaitisRides]

@@larryadams4465 you are spot on!

[@RaitisRides]

@@vincevince9465 this is so very true.

[@user-bs3gf1hz3j]

Joe, I appreciate you tagging me on my last reply and comment. Just updating you. Absolutely having a blast with my 22 GT2 package GT. I'm in the New Port Richey area all this Memorial Day weekend through the 4th if June this year. If possible I would like the opportunity to show you in person the decals and extra stuff I have done to my Forte. But great reviews you do. Lee

[@jeremyfritz7850]

Another great review. Would love to see you review the refreshed Kia GT but with the 6 speed manual. That seems to the sweet spot for price, fun & features

[@JlunaPlays]

I watched both your videos on this car and the k5 gt line. Still having a hard time deciding if I want to get the forte gt2 or the k5 gt line. Love your videos though ❤️

[@texasmade9727]

Thanks for the bad ass review bro! I have a 2020 base model Kia Forte. I’m definitely gonna upgrade to this bad boy. I use it for my commuter to and from work. A hour each way. You get so much for your buck with Kia I can’t pass up! I just subscribed!!!!

[@2004cyrus]

What do you drive on the weekends? Sadly I have to drive my 2021 7 days a week.

[@texasmade9727]

@@2004cyrus on the weekends we ( my Wife and I ) are in her 2022 Buick Envision Avenir. Fully loaded. It’s a plush, smother ride, which has a super futuristic look to it. Most weekendsI work though so I’m in my Kia.

[@2004cyrus]

@@texasmade9727 my family owns a Buick franchise. I’m very familiar. So you have young children I take it? I thought maybe you were rich and drove a rotation of rides there for a minute! Lol - my bad. People throw me a little when they call everything a daily. It prompts me to ask if they have multiple garages of vehicles to select from. So you have one for you and one for her? Did I miss anything?

[@Zuudoh]

I know a few guys who have them and have stage 1 tunes and bolt ons and they have been turning laps. i've been in them and they are fun as heck to be in and drive! i'd recommend this highly

[@gainesville323]

Although the manual is $1,000 more than the standard GT, the GT2 is more expensive since the GT2 package is a $2,200 upgrade that is only available when you get the DCT.

[@justinnowicki8869]

Just bought this same car in sporty blue. First ever new car and I’m in love 😤😎

[@UFOsUseLightBendingCamoflague]

Great car, I love the Si, but they give you a ton in a segment that is smaller than it once was. A great daily, warranty is huge, cheap, efficient, etc. I wish i considered one after a girl totaled my WRX 😭

[@maoinc13]

Sorry mate , go get the Forte GT Turbo

[@Merzehades1913]

I agree. A gauge application would have been an excellent feature in the vehicle.

[@ianemory5800]

This is a great small car. Super good value. Plus the styling is so slick

[@NileshR12]

This car is nearly perfect imo! I just wish it had a driver's memory seat, a power passenger seat, & another interior color option like the Chestnut Brown SynTex leatherette interior from the K5 GT or the Red SynTex leatherette interior from the K5 GT-Line as well. And this car would be perfect!

[@g1n487]

As a proud owner of a 2020 Forte GT2. I'm really happy about how Kia has upped their game the past few years. This 22 model looks sharp!

[@g1n487]

@@Bens_youtube2016 no issues at all the past 2 years. I enjoy driving it too.

[@NinjaPvvP]

Owner of a 2022 Forte GT2 and it’s amazing was waiting for a review and I’m glad to hear other people having the same experience. Good daily driver but has the power to have a bit of fun when u want too.

[@maga6319]

@@Bens_youtube2016 troll

[@T_B_C_L]

I bought the same exact car but in white for my wife about a week ago and so far she loves this little beast! Great review!

[@JulezWinnfield]

I've been waiting for this comparison. Add the Elantra N-Line comparioson for the sporty 200hp compact sedan club.

[@RaitisRides]

You got it Larry!

[@msar2971]

Love the videos. But that plug for kitchen sink cookie is spot on. Best cookie ever at a chain restaurant.

[@RaitisRides]

You better believe it! You have great taste!

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

Cars this size are a hoot to drive. Heck, I drove a rental-spec Corolla in the Mountains of Colorado and even that was fun! And when I realized the Forte has a BIGGER TRUNK than a Camry, I started to think about it as a legit replacement for our family wagon. I'm not going to lie though, last time I checked the manual does not allow you to spec cooled seats and that bums me out a little.

[@RaitisRides]

Very goo input Marc!

[@JMilMovies]

I think the red in the grill and down around the fog lamps is the same. It just appears different depending on the angle you look at it. When the camera was looking straight at the front of the car, the red lines in the grill did appear to be slightly different, but as the camera raised up and the red in the grill came more into view, it looked to be the same color as those bottom sections. But it may also look different in person. Sometimes colors look one way on camera and another way in person. Also, not sure why that car doesn't have a USB-C port. It's 2022. USB-C should be standard in every vehicle.

[@vipjonas23]

Omg Finally 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 the best car in 2022, cheap, gas saving and fun i love mine since 2 months already

[@RaitisRides]

I’m glad that you are liking this one!

[@vipjonas23]

@@RaitisRides I have one already in red and i loved is amazing car, and I waiting so long for you video, very good job 👍🏼

[@davidp2888]

Given the choice, would you take this Kia or a Camry SE?

[@RaitisRides]

I’m going this. More fun to drive.

[@wbwayne8887]

I would argue that the Forte's HVAC controls are more high end than the Civic Si. On the basis of Dual Auto Temp vs Single Auto Temp control. As far as feel though, the Si's interior design and material quality is completely on another level. Probably the best in class, along with the Mazda 3.

[@user-pf7bb8ew5r]

I would pick this car over a civic Corolla or Elantra any day.

[@dj4monie]

I really thought about getting another one. My '20 has been stellar, some minor issues with the interior but I'm in my car much more than a regular person is. Love the infotainment system. Not enough bass but no OE system does, upgraded that but I am going for more power the DJ in me says it's not loud enough. I am somewhere over 300 hp now, no videos and no dynos just yet. I can load up luggage tools and drag radials in the trunk with the seats up. Lots of space and that's with a Bazooka Bass Tube in the trunk.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks Anthony for sharing that great ownership input!

[@andrewcenteno8370]

Then how do you know you’re over 300hpv

[@brianlee9233]

Kia (and Hyundai) make some really fun cars to drive and this Forte GT2 is no exception.

[@BarRYK333]

I love those details you give. cools stuff!!!

[@RaitisRides]

I appreciate you letting me share it with you Barry!

[@CindyAshline]

Thank you for the presentations of the different models of the Kia Forte. I like this car. I live in the Albany, NY area and am looking to buy a new car.

[@armandodoval1813]

Right now the civic si is lagging against the competition

[@Frank-hg9rl]

I own a 2020 Kia forte GT, and never regret it so far....The 1.5T Honda is not as realible as this 1.6T..When pushed hard, the Honda 1.5 ended with gaz in the oil...

[@isam9909]

Always love that you put in your pros and cons of the cars. Sounds like performance wise, the Si wins because of the stellar manual gearbox and limit slip differential. A shame kia doesn't include a LSD in it. It'd make the model super awesome

[@Michael-li3id]

The issue with turbocharged cars is they have short gearing and run out of oomph at like 5,500 RPM. If you floor it at 2,500RPM, it takes until 3,000RPM before it starts throwing out power bc of turbo lag, and then you only have 2,500 RPM (like 1.5 seconds of fun) before the turbo dies out and it's time to shift. Tall gearing in a N/A car is the way to go.

[@maoinc13]

​@@Michael-li3idokayyy

[@Lyndon1117]

Yes!!! This is the review I've been waiting for!!! By the way, I was on the 750K live stream and was the one who sent a super chat with no message towards the end. Wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday, Joe, and tell Lori she's awesome behind the camera. My question is, since the Forte GT has decent fuel economy and power, plus great value, would it be a better choice than getting a hybrid, such as a Camry or Accord?

[@2004cyrus]

I think this would be the way to go. Much more affordable to get into.

[@mattmekhaeil]

The silver and hints of red accents make the car pop. Styling wise this looks better then this generation civic. Handling wise the civic si has the upper hand. The si is more fun behind the wheel and the car is easier to toss around. Honda knows how to make a fun fwd car

[@RaitisRides]

You nailed it!

[@jamesryan9761]

Hey Joe Great job as usual. The red on the front is the same color. Its just that the grill doesn't reflect the light like the fog light surround does.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks James! I appreciate you sharing that!

[@mariusz128]

KIA and Hyundai are taking over big time!

[@bigmacmach1185]

Got the exact same one just black as a daily, lot of fun, features are great, gas mileage is great and a great value for the money especially in today's market!

[@RaitisRides]

That is wonderful! Congrats man!

[@2004cyrus]

Oh what do you drive on the weekends? How many cars do you own? Sadly I drive my 2021 7 days per week.

[@bigmacmach1185]

I have a Mach 1 Mustang and wife's car

[@2004cyrus]

@@bigmacmach1185 oh okay I thought maybe you had a few garages with a rotation of vehicles available to you. It’s a bit of a confusing term to me. I’ve been in USA 2 months. I have so much to learn. My American friend typed this message. Thank you!

[@leviefrauim1425]

As always, solid review, Joe- thank you. Long live the small, sport sedan and hatchback, right? Never been a huge fan of the Korean makes but this car is sharp looking. Like the exterior, love the interior; I wish more manufacturers kept controls and vents as simple as what Kia offers in this ride. And a manual- Lord be praised! - all for under $25gs (according to the current Kia web site.) W/all its content and performance, that's a pretty sweet deal. Now if build quality and reliability can match the Civic/Mazda3, then Kia has something. I'd actually consider this car!

[@stavroslask1292]

Build quality isn't the best..after 2 years the brake pads wore out (9k miles) and I now feel a slight shaking (transmission)..I drive very hard....front tires after 9000 miles had to be rotated as well..I lease my car so I don't care but out of all the leases models/brands no other wore out that fast....very zippy car and so comfortable.. hands down the best small car I've ever driven..but don't consider buying a Kia for at least another 7 years...their reliability is not that great unless you drive very conservative or like an Asian driver.

[@maga6319]

@@stavroslask1292 stop spreading fake news about kia's reliability. Majority of them hold up the long run. You trolls are just mad that kai and Hyundai are doing better now days with their quality control.

[@stavroslask1292]

@@maga6319 another new recall of Kia/ Hyundai of 485,000 cars that can catch on fire is not what you call quality! Go research it... I'm happy with my Kia forte GT but..it definitely won't last on average trouble free past 90000 city miles...my 2000 civic keeps on ticking!

[@johnnycatR58]

@@stavroslask1292 bullshit. My 2011 Kia Soul is still driving like a champ. I average 85mph + and I didn't have to change the brake pads until I hit 90k miles and no shaking in transmission. Lying POS

[@johnnycatR58]

@@stavroslask1292 fucking lying POS. My 2001 Kia Optima had 160k trouble free miles until someone rear ended me and my current 2011 Kia Soul has over 100k miles with only oil changes, tires, wipers, and one brake pad change. Kia quality issues were in the 90s.

[@Pbadome1]

The stand up comedian of car reviews. Love it! Great channel, extremely helpful since I started shopping for a new car two weeks ago and found your channel. The obsession with Twinkies. Thanks again, only looking for your reviews online when I want information on a car, thanks.

[@omarcortes5754]

I like it, looks pretty good. The price is very competitive but I would go for the Civic. And yes, the red accents look different.

[@RaitisRides]

I understand where you are coming from Omar.

[@beastmangledyou176]

There the same watch the video back you can tell from the top down view of the front it's the same color it was just the angle you were at

[@beastmangledyou176]

Plus I have one in snow white pearl definitely the best color combo forte gt

[@realnapster1522]

Resale value is where it’s at. Honda will hold its value. This car is nothing special. But Veloster N and Elantra N are special.

[@UnenthusedEnthusiast]

I have a Alfa Romeo Giulia and this is pretty close to the same interior and dash. Crazy for the value.

[@tomdrummy4984]

I like it, I like it . Color looks great with those wheels.

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very right!

[@friendly9283]

Been looking into getting one of these looking at reviews of people all over and it’s funny to see someone from my state review one right in my city

[@eyeforaneye87]

I bought a 2022 Snow White Pearl GT2 2 weeks ago and absolutely love it. I had to drive to a dealership 45 miles away to buy it, these are so hard to find.

[@RaitisRides]

They are super difficult! Congrats!

[@HuggableLoveablePlushies]

I got really lucky. My dealership just down the street from me got two just delivered a couple days before I swung by and purchased mine.

[@2004cyrus]

Congratulations!

[@moriahnutter4816]

I bought it in a manual from 1750 miles away. 🤣 I knew what I wanted!

[@HuggableLoveablePlushies]

@@moriahnutter4816 Oh my God, lol. 1750 miles… I can respect it though! Congrats!

[@Afroxsamurai67]

i test drove the gt2 to see if i really love it…holy hell i fell in love massively, definitely gonna get it in a couple months

[@RaitisRides]

That sounds like a great plan!

[@lordflashheart3706]

I'm glad all those Si drivers will be feeling more thrilled and engaged as they get walked by a Kia

[@omarlomeli88]

Best bang for your buck! Period. Not to mention the pops and bangs you get from that factory exhaust.

[@Batman-wv5ng]

Beautiful car Kia have come long way with quality cars.

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very right!

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

This Forte isn't that bad Joe. It has good style, sportiness, and tech for the price point. I do agree with you that the Si has the advantage of a limited slip diff. The Si for me I like the interior a little bit better, but with the GT, I like the outside a little bit more than the SI. Great job guys!

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

@Ed Findlay True.

[@DragonKnightX12]

@Ed Findlay LSDs aren't that expensive, at most it would be $1k more.

[@gahangore111]

We've finally reached the point where manual transmissions cost more.

[@RaitisRides]

What has the world come too.

[@jasonmowery9473]

just bought a 2023 gt. really good car

[@nspokey]

Awesome Vehicle Joe and it's affordable too!

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for letting me bring it to you!

[@dsell37]

Same shade red on the front for both the grill and lower corners. Lori managed to get a great camera angle from the front corner while standing up.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks Daniel! Lori is the best in the biz!

[@dsell37]

@@RaitisRides absolutely!

[@R56Cooper]

Thanks again Joe! Love that KIA put their amazing HIGHWAY Driving Assist into this car! Really hope they eventually put HDA (smart cruise + lane following assist) into their Kona N and Elantra N!! (Will make those cars excellent daily drivers)! **also I really hope with the KIA Seltos refresh-- they make a sporty Seltos GT model with over 200hp!

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very welcome!

[@canadianaviator]

There is LFA, LCA, and ADAS on the Kona N… in certain markets.

[@R56Cooper]

@@canadianaviator yes! And I hope HYUNDAI listens to their customers and puts Highway Driving Assist with their Kona N here in the US. Will make it the perfect daily driver!

[@maoinc13]

This Kia has the smart cruise lane following assistance plus braking control

[@long_fellow]

Wow I still remember my uncle's old Forte from 10 years ago. It definitely changed a lot.