Is the 4.6 2V worth building? | Let me explain why!

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Theblackcarguru

Theblackcarguru

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@Cole4737
@Cole4737 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 95 mustang gt 5.0, built the top end and did exhaust, gears, etc. Got done, had about 5k in the mods. Old dude at the shop told me I coulda built two chevys for that much. Looked it up, he was right, burn lol. Good car though, I had it for years, was my daily driver from about 24-30 years old.
@Cole4737
@Cole4737 2 жыл бұрын
@@worldssickestmedia2713 🤣
@kevinrichardson6628
@kevinrichardson6628 2 жыл бұрын
Dude Know his stuff good work bro
@406MenaceRacecar
@406MenaceRacecar 2 жыл бұрын
@@worldssickestmedia2713 you would definitely need to spend a LOT to keep up with a high performance 400 chevy small block. Mine makes over 520hp with an old Holley 4bbl. All Motor.
@406MenaceRacecar
@406MenaceRacecar 2 жыл бұрын
Using a 40 year old factory GM 400 against a 1995 Ford is a bit of an unfair comparison, they didn't imagine 700hp factory motor in those days. Mine is a Dart SHP block it will hold over 1000. I didn't want to build a factory 400 either, you make some good points. --Ford had a better cylinder head there a few times that helped things. (The good old days when American made was actually.. u know, made here unlike the imported "American" made stuff today)
@VelocityVibeRacing
@VelocityVibeRacing 2 жыл бұрын
One of many things I’ve learned working at a perfromace machine shop Chevy $ easy Ford $$$ medium Mopar $$$$$ expert
@richardpitts7011
@richardpitts7011 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of your videos the knowledge you have and the way you spread it. Props to you the blackcarguru.
@adamhelmers3185
@adamhelmers3185 2 жыл бұрын
this video only proved how little he knows about the 2v
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Adam Helmers How so? The dude literally laid it out for you a simple as possible and you still don’t get it 😂🤣
@InkedGamerWolf420
@InkedGamerWolf420 10 ай бұрын
Please do a video on the 4.6 4v NA that the 99 Cobra, Lincoln Mk8, etc had and is it worth modding (NA, turbo, supercharged builds) If you haven’t already ofc
@JAX5N
@JAX5N 2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to start working on a 3.5 Atlas motor 🤡. Keep up the fire content my dude!
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted a little more pep for my 2000 Mercury Grand Marquis so I swapped out my 4.6 for a 2-valve 5.4 with Comp Cam Stage 3 camshafts and PI heads. Swapping out the 2.73 rear gears for 3.73s next. Can care less about racing. Just wanted to make the car more fun to drive and so far it is.
@derrickbosler9704
@derrickbosler9704 2 жыл бұрын
Youre a straight menace to society i love the build
@robsorgdrager8477
@robsorgdrager8477 2 жыл бұрын
I remember you 😏. It's outrageous what it costs to build these mod motors but if done right they hold the power and just keep trucking. I will admit I loved my Vic ( black on black , lowered 2.5 inches , j mod , exhaust , giant stereo ) after that one got jacked I sold all my other projects because of how easy it was to steal. The best thing a person can do for a power bump and be easy on the wallet is a 5.4 swap ( non PI with pi heads and the pi intake from the 4.6 ) using the same similar cam as you have, a loose torque converter, long tubes and 3.91/2 final gear with a j mod. You'll be able to blow through tires with ease and it will make that tank perform like a much smaller car. I forgot, hands down the best bang for buck mod a person can do on a panther is a 5 or 6 speed swap. It was a night and day change with just a stock 4.6 😈 the 4r70e/w had the worst gear ratio known to man, it's worse than gm's 700r4 .
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget you can swap 4V heads onto any 2V block.
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 You can buy then maintenance becomes an issue due to the amount of room 4V heads take up. Any repair dealing with the heads will require pulling the engine.
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Hugo G. Hackenbush Swapping 4v heads on a 2v block requires A LOT more than just slapping heads on and more expensive than just finding a complete 4v engine..a 4v headed 2v block will be an overpriced engine with heads that flow decent but has low compression and can barely get out of its own way 😂🤣
@EPICYELLOWHORSE
@EPICYELLOWHORSE 2 жыл бұрын
10yrs ago I built a twin turbo 2v using an MMR short block, Trick Flow Heads, and HP Performance twin turbo kit. I made 725rwhp on 18psi
@nicholasridiculous3488
@nicholasridiculous3488 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that's badass dude! Lol
@leondavis3451
@leondavis3451 2 жыл бұрын
Can you help me with my 2v
@leondavis3451
@leondavis3451 2 жыл бұрын
Can you help me build my 2v
@EPICYELLOWHORSE
@EPICYELLOWHORSE 2 жыл бұрын
@leon davis I can damn sure give you some good information on what to do. Leave your email address👌🏽
@DaRealAP99
@DaRealAP99 Жыл бұрын
Could you help me with my 2005 f150 lol
@Bdh841
@Bdh841 Жыл бұрын
If only they could make the coyote sound like that 4.6. Best sounding car ever
@nevanmoses7208
@nevanmoses7208 5 ай бұрын
I strongly agree
@NewEdgeDesigns
@NewEdgeDesigns 4 ай бұрын
Definitely
@maidenlord6663
@maidenlord6663 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how you just put it out there straight to the point yes no this will work that won't work good videos Man I've been building v8s for 30 plus years and everything you say makes a lot of sense
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Except for how much he over inflated the actual cost of the build..no disrespect to anyone the guru but it’s cheaper and easier than he is making it out to be and someone who has been “building v8s for 30 plus years” should be able to realize that fact
@erinericsson
@erinericsson 2 жыл бұрын
@@eriv4735 pull us up the numbers that prove him wrong please.
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
erinericsson You know how I know what I am talking about? Because I ACTUALLY do the research and I ACTUALLY do the work..maybe instead of asking random strangers on the internet to do your research for you, try ACTUALLY doing some research and you’ll be amazed at how much you could actually learn that way 👍
@erinericsson
@erinericsson 2 жыл бұрын
@@eriv4735🤣 Oh you got called out and now everyone else has to prove you right?
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
erinericsson You’re not “calling me out” you’re asking me to provide you with information you are ignorant of 🤦‍♂..I don’t need to be proven right but if YOU want to learn for yourself like the rest of us had to then have at it..here’s some free information for you…a romeo block can handle 1000+, a stock crank can handle 700+ and stock coyote rods and pistons can handle 700+ and bolt right in..the 2v also loves boost and building a turbo kit is cheap and easy..take this information and do what you want with it bud..have fun
@mikehunt630
@mikehunt630 2 жыл бұрын
So glad someone talked you into making videos!
@maxiummadface
@maxiummadface 2 жыл бұрын
A few people, me included, have challenge bucket list. Such as modify a car no engine swap; engine swap and mods; just an engine swap ect etc …
@sategllib2191
@sategllib2191 2 жыл бұрын
4.6 2v you don't need to do cams to boost it. Rods, pistons + boost you're good for 500-600hp. Add in a crank and you're good for 700-800 without touching the heads really
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
The stock crank can take 7-800..the stock pistons can handle 6-700..the only thing that truly needs changing is the powdered metal rods that can barely handle 500hp
@Flathead-fb5tk
@Flathead-fb5tk Жыл бұрын
This. This is why I'd just keep the 2v
@jasondavis5475
@jasondavis5475 Жыл бұрын
Your insight plus the comments...my gt 4.6 L 2v is going to give me what I want 😊
@TonyTheTruckGuy
@TonyTheTruckGuy Жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing the math and a Coyote swap is still just as expensive if not more expensive than a built/booster 2V. Assuming you do most or all of the labor.
@Flathead-fb5tk
@Flathead-fb5tk Жыл бұрын
Coyote swap is definitely more expensive if you do it the right way
@midnight347
@midnight347 11 ай бұрын
​@@Flathead-fb5tkyou can do a pretty decent coyote swap for 10-12k and I'm talking trans and everything. It's not alot different one way or the other price wise the coyote swap is easier for the average backyard shade tree mechanic.
@Itsjustaspic
@Itsjustaspic 4 ай бұрын
Even if the coyote is more expensive. At least you’ll have a coyote in the end of all that money spent. But if you put all that money in a 2v… you’ll still have a… 2v… a far more inferior motor. And the coyote doesn’t have to be built to handle 700whp. It can handle it stock, still be more reliable and tune easier than a 2v. This debate ended before it started lol
@TonyTheTruckGuy
@TonyTheTruckGuy 4 ай бұрын
@@Itsjustaspic Yeah I meant that you could have a fully build 2V for the same price with MHS heads and all. I'd use a Teksid block and would never see over 1000hp so it would be plenty capable. Love the Coyote, just wish it sounded cooler like the 2V and 3V haha. I'm sure Coyote swap cost will continue to fall with time, though. Your name looks familiar, you watch Alex Flores?
@NewEdgeDesigns
@NewEdgeDesigns 4 ай бұрын
@@TonyTheTruckGuy2v FTW
@nicholasridiculous3488
@nicholasridiculous3488 2 жыл бұрын
Fairly accurate info. I have a 96 GT automatic. Did pi heads swap, pi intake, steeda under drive pulleys, long tube headers, BBK 73mm SCT tuner, Ford Racing 9mm wires with Screamin Demon coil packs..... it'll scream lol. No, won't spank a newer 5.0, but it'll make them run they're guts out to leave an old sn95 convertible hehehe also, parts and cost of car, got about 8k total in it. So much fun and sounds soooo good
@luthermoore2969
@luthermoore2969 Жыл бұрын
2vs may be the best sounding.
@harryhippi8515
@harryhippi8515 2 жыл бұрын
Still spitting facts. Keep it coming 👍🏿💯
@bucketletsgo6543
@bucketletsgo6543 8 ай бұрын
Hey, I’ll be real bro. I always think your videos wrong point and you’re funny with it. You’re not even trying. It just comes out with a little swag to it. I appreciate that you put me on a bunch of different car ideas. I haven’t pulled the trigger on any of them yet, but there’s a lot of things.
@robertclark2714
@robertclark2714 Жыл бұрын
I just put a PI intake on a 2000 Lincoln Cartier that originally was a Non-PI. The Non-Pi intake had a plastic coolant crossover that eventually will crack. The PI intake has a metal coolant crossover. The PI intake and gasket do not exactly match the non-PI heads on the left rear and front right water passages but a shot of silicone before gasket installation fixes that. Noticeable performance improvement. You have to reroute the water pump to heater core metal tube under the intake also. I have actually seen this swap done in one hour but it took me a couple of days. I used a PI intake from a local Pull-A-Part junk yard from a 2001 Lincoln Town Car.
@ItsPainnz
@ItsPainnz 2 жыл бұрын
its the fact that you can get so much power from so little openings for air. less moving top end means more reliable power in the long run which is why its more expensive. its still an amazing product for the price.
@TAShannon1
@TAShannon1 10 ай бұрын
I built my 4.6 for $1260. Forged (-18cc) manley pistons, factory crankshaft, used factory forged rods out of a gen 2 5.0, and studs. On top of that i replaced some wearables but as far as "building" the bottom end, it was $1260 for forged pistons/rods, arp head studs and arp mains. $500 port job on a PI set, $500 deck and valvejob, $160 springs, and running stock cams on boost right now. My stage 2 turbo cams are still 8 weeks out. I've got about $3k in the motor total. That's with a melling hv, oem timing, oem followers and lash adjusters. The car is boosted junkyard style. Transmission swap cost me about $1800 including custom driveshaft. All in all these are not particularly affordable engines to work with, but they're not that bad. My goal was to build a poor man's version of a coyote lol. I build transmissions, engines and turbos for a living so i had a head start on resources. Transmission is an MT82. One of my mt82 cores had a gaping hole in the to of the bellhousing but was a good core internally. Since no customer would want it i built it for myself. Technically I put about $600 in it but already had all the parts on hand since i build these By the way this is an 01 f150 extended cab. It's a rear mount turbo set up right behind the cab on passenger side in the bed. I spent about $200 in intake piping/elbows etc, $100 for exhaust piping and turbo flange. I had a HX40 core laying around from an 8.3L Cummins worth about $100. Threw in some journal bearings for about $20 and ran it. Retains factory exhaust until pipe gets to the bed of the truck. Exhaust pre-turbo is coated and heat wrapped. Its a small turbo and spool is practically instant despite being a rear mount. Oiling is easy because the turbo is much higher than the oil pan. I dyno'd the car @396whp, 441tq with this set up. Same day I bolted in a 67/67/16 hx40 hybrid that i built and went 492whp and 498tq. Truck just runs out of breath with the stock cams and can't take advantage of the bigger turbo so I went back to the 60mm stock hx40. The truck suffocates at 5000+rpm and doesn't give the turbo a chance to build all of it's boost. With the new cams motor will rev out to 6800-7000rpm. When my cams do come in, I definitely intend on running the 67mm. I want a 12 second truck but need to keep it no higher than 600 whp due to factory crank. Lots of people make way more than that on them but I play it safe. The whole project is a testbed for me. I build mt82's, I build holset turbos, and i build the triton motors for customers on a daily basis. I need a personal testbed as well as unique showcase for my work. It's an actual 1 owner grandpa truck with a camper and all. 350,000 miles on it. The intake tubing runs through the factory intake/airbox and it looks 99.99% factory under the hood. The turbo is contained inside of a truck bed aluminum tool box inside of the camper. It is a legit sleeper inside and out. Only way you will know is if you crawl under and see the exhaust piping take a detour 😂😂😂
@mibd7812
@mibd7812 8 ай бұрын
Could I do this to my crown vic
@Arkansas223
@Arkansas223 3 ай бұрын
Any social media on this car ??
@LoadedPotatoInc
@LoadedPotatoInc 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 98 sn95 with a 4.6 and it’s slow as hell buts it’s a fun car to drive and it sounds like no other car. If you get in the mustang community you can generally find parts for them cheap and a lot of parts between years are interchangeable. I bought a 4.6 pi from by buddy for 1500 dollars and it was freshly rebuilt. I plan on dropping it in a 69 mustang coupe I’ve got
@nicholasridiculous3488
@nicholasridiculous3488 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yea man!
@gk5891
@gk5891 10 ай бұрын
We built a buddy's 16 yo daughter a car. Picked up a '96 Roller with a grenaded engine, used PI engine, used Vortech Blower (nonintercooled 96-98 kit, changed some bolts), some used chassis and fuel system parts and a good tune. Got about $4,000 in it. 7.5 1/8 (High 11 second 1/4). It isn't fast, but it's plenty for her at this point.
@EnormousBudhead
@EnormousBudhead 5 ай бұрын
Bought a 01 bullitt recently, Just did a whole engine rebuild, New cams, New lifters, adjusters, New timing chain kit and aluminum radiator with hoses for less than 1500,...going to have it running mint as a daily until i save up for the coyote swap
@TheJMan1K
@TheJMan1K Жыл бұрын
PI swap, coyote rods, forged pistons if you can find em used in box, and a kenne Bell. Of course factor in other supporting mods and parts. You can pretty much keep everything stock except the rods and exhaust. From there build the tranny (Or swap it) and reinforce the rear.
@fnafplayer6447
@fnafplayer6447 11 ай бұрын
I met a guy at street outlaws who had a sn95 2v that made 1200hp and it was fast as hell. These can definitely work, if you put in the time and effort it can definitely reward you.
@shosaleen
@shosaleen 2 жыл бұрын
I was out running everyone in 03 with a 2 valve turbo 661 on conservative tune
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Turbo 2v is a monster that not a lot of people can deal with
@Factsharing99
@Factsharing99 2 жыл бұрын
But what if we love the sound of our 4.6 over any other swap??
@Wildanimal864.
@Wildanimal864. Жыл бұрын
Do a 3v or 4v
@NewEdgeDesigns
@NewEdgeDesigns 4 ай бұрын
3v is trash, stick with the 2v even a four valve needs boost to be competitive with modern cars
@Droptop_Sef
@Droptop_Sef 4 ай бұрын
This is not lie. No need to build a motor that will cost you modern motor money . Great video and all these are the reasons i have a Gen 2 coyote swapped new edge
@WarriorOfEden3033
@WarriorOfEden3033 2 жыл бұрын
I seen 1400hp 4.6 2v Mustangs yes it cost a lot but so would any OHC or Pushrod to get those numbers. Best thing to do a 6R80 swap after 3.73 gears & just make get to 600hp you will easily walk most things on the road & surprise anyone at the track
@alphasheepdog9683
@alphasheepdog9683 Жыл бұрын
2V limit will always be air flow due to the heads and smaller displacement. The 4V would be a better option if you can get one cheap from a wrecked Mach as they respond to forced induction as well as cam work so much better.
@YoBoyNero
@YoBoyNero Жыл бұрын
I have a 04 New edge mustang I just wanna give this little 2v a fighting chance man this is my daily/ street mod Time attack car I have most of my money invested into the suspension literally every bushing has been replaced wilwood brakes, BC racing coils, panhard rod system, extended control arms, sway bars, anti roll bars, etc but I only have a Borla ATAK Cat-Back Exhaust, Spleab longtube headers, Trick Flow Intake Manifold, SR Performance Cold Air Intake, and some ITB’s I ripped off of a S65 BMW v8 I bought for 20 bucks off my sisters crashed m3 I fabricated my own bracket to make the ITB’s work with the 2v (sounds fantastic at high rpm) and a BBK Throttle Body Intake Plenum 78mm that’s about it in terms of engine performance Safe to say I’m already down a deep rabbit hole when it comes to money with my New edge stang lol
@wile.emario8957
@wile.emario8957 2 жыл бұрын
My man!!! Hell yeah. I literally asked you about this recently. Thanks man. Much love! I have a PI swapped 97 with FBO, cams, Forged bottom end, and am due for a big turbo. EDIT: I have been thinking about a coyote swap.
@SuperHbkforever
@SuperHbkforever 2 жыл бұрын
But everyone loves the underdog story "why'd you build it the hard way" "because I wanted to see what it could do"...that's.so cool to me personally. Love the 2V love seeing them go fast
@wile.emario8957
@wile.emario8957 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperHbkforever You, I like.
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperHbkforever That's what I'm doing with my 2v 09 P71, maybe you'll like to take a look at my videos, I'm at 249rwhp right now with just with longtubes n 93 octane Marty tune..
@yahbenyah9732
@yahbenyah9732 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 4 the info bra now I know what to do and what not to do with my 04 vic LX 💪🏿❤👑
@adamhelmers3185
@adamhelmers3185 2 жыл бұрын
please dont listen to him man 😭. The 2v has hella potential with out a lot of money. Check out Richard Holdener on youtube, he actually has experience with this engine and isnt a guy doing quick google searches and spewing false info for content
@yahbenyah9732
@yahbenyah9732 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamhelmers3185 thanks for the advice 👍🏾💯%
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Yah Ben Yah Yes check out Holdener, he is great but his videos are about engine dynos with no accessories and perfect conditions.he doesn’t tell you how to do the work nor does he tell you how much it ACTUALLY costs and he will not contradict ANYTHING the guru said..there is definitely a lot of great knowledge to gained from Holdener for sure
@yahbenyah9732
@yahbenyah9732 2 жыл бұрын
@@eriv4735 Thanks for the info bro ✌🏿❤😎🌞
@ciscoh1
@ciscoh1 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad you explained. I can save myself hundred and fifty buuuuucks! Cheeeeoow! The expedition is going to sound good and move for a thick Betty
@rccustomsli
@rccustomsli 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 98 GT and did the PI swap with MHS Stage 2 cams, and it's pretty fun to drive your 100% right tho these are not race engine just fun cruising engines
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣
@smrsocmoneyracing2552
@smrsocmoneyracing2552 2 жыл бұрын
If you do a turbo kit instead of a procharger, that drops your price down by $8I. Those procharger are nice but them prices be up there.
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Home built turbo kit with an eBay gt45 and Intercooler for the win 😂🤣
@dr.dreamscape9057
@dr.dreamscape9057 Жыл бұрын
If your gonna get your hands dirty to swap the top end save some money and go to a scrap yard and find a pi 4.6 in a roted pickup or something
@NotABossYET
@NotABossYET 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this. Thank you!
@simbanugz2906
@simbanugz2906 2 жыл бұрын
Agree I had a 99 gt a lifetime ago 2009, I did Trick flow heads, nsr stage 2 cams, long tunes, it made 298/330@ 6300 at the wheels, I spent right at $4500 doing all the work myself. My first mustang was a 93 gt i did whole top end Trick flow the 5.0 made a best of 288/340@5700 at the wheels. Cost me $3000 in 1999. Now I own a 12 3.7 mustang ported intakes, throttle body, intake runners on the heads, headers, tune .020 manley forge pistons and rods Cost me $1800. 3.7 made a best of 314/306 @ 7400. All of the mustangs ran/run 12.5-12.7. 106-109mph. the 2v wins the sound contest all day but is very expensive, Its a solid motor but pricy.
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 2 жыл бұрын
The 2v is as reliable as it gets n that makes it worth it for sure.. The Coyote can become a leaky son of a bitch that can't be fixed, shops I've been to have told me they hate working on them for that reason..lol You sound like you run n/a, I like n/a builds then boost, most just want to go boost for obvious cost vs power reasons, I get it.. The ppl spending $30-60k on a stock car are the main ones saying not to spend money on a 2v when a 2v can be built faster than their investment for much cheaper.. I'm team 2v all the way..
@adamhelmers3185
@adamhelmers3185 2 жыл бұрын
damn i made 280/330 with just long tubes, intake system and a dyno tune completely stock unopened 2004 2v
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Adam Helmers Must have been one happy dyno 😂🤣
@mehim1742
@mehim1742 Жыл бұрын
I dont think they are meant to race but they are fun to drive with a little diy work you can hook these up for under $4k. The heads have to he hand ported go get some from junkyard $100 carbide drill bit $100 set, new valves stems, springs/retainers/ cams 1600, headers $400, bigger exhaust kit $350 at speedway motors (2.5") mine came with 3:55 i left them, manual swap kit $1k good tune $400 max. You can have some fun. And you could slap turbo on it too for an extra 1.8k if you can do it yourself
@FranciscoRodriguez-ce3vm
@FranciscoRodriguez-ce3vm 2 жыл бұрын
Please do the 4.6 3V next please 🙏 it's only right after this video
@CaptDarkskin
@CaptDarkskin 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 98GT even though it’s not fast, but it’s very enjoyable and reliable. I definitely dream of Coyote 6 speed swapping it one day. Thanks for showing us some love! 🤘🏾
@simbanugz2906
@simbanugz2906 2 жыл бұрын
its still the best sounding mustang with a catless dual exhaust.
@tyblackburn5914
@tyblackburn5914 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds good with a full exhaust as well
@lorenzo5408
@lorenzo5408 2 жыл бұрын
@@simbanugz2906 Exactly what I have in my 98 gt and your right sound is amazing. Not too loud but just enough
@ThatOneGuySometime
@ThatOneGuySometime 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a CVPI with a Gen 3 yote and a 10 speed sounds like a perfect highway monster. But supercharged? OOF. That sounds DANGEROUS. Especially if you slap a blue bottle in some of the ample real estate in the trunk. Imagine picking someone up for Uber in a blown 5.0 with a 150 wet shot. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@marzmindset5848
@marzmindset5848 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a dream come true
@joshfde
@joshfde 2 жыл бұрын
5 starts from me 🤷🏽‍♂️
@khafresanchez7410
@khafresanchez7410 2 жыл бұрын
Man I looked through all the videos and couldn't find the 2v . Then behold, thou has created it.
@02DDP
@02DDP 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth buying the tork tech kit to allow you to run the 03 Cobra stock supercharger. Estimated cost 2800 to 3500
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Tork tech kits are great but will end up being closer to 5k after all is said and done
@midnight347
@midnight347 Жыл бұрын
It's a good option. The m112 is good for a stock motor 2v and if you build it you can upgrade to a modern blowers that they make for terminators as well. That is why that kit is a good option imo. They don't make those kinds of blowers for the 2vs
@CRUSHFACTORPC
@CRUSHFACTORPC 2 жыл бұрын
In the New edge it fits and If you get Trick flow heads 195cc with the Big Bore Boss block short block 5.3L I have a typhoon intake and BBK 78mm throttle body. Use a Stage 3 Cam for these heads from MHS. Its over 11:1 compression , its NA ,sounds great and fun to drive. Procharge later.
@derfthekhemist8517
@derfthekhemist8517 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget you can swap the independent rear suspension out a newer stand for the solid axle for around $2700
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
The newer mustangs have an irs that will not fit the sn95 or new edge cars that came with solid axles..best you can do is a cobra irs but good luck finding one for $2700
@LeachimSagrav333
@LeachimSagrav333 2 жыл бұрын
Got gen 2 coyote rods and forged pistons on mine. Paxton novi 2000. Makes 645 to the wheels of my crown vic.
@Brentburns1
@Brentburns1 2 жыл бұрын
Bill shit
@friendzoning
@friendzoning 2 жыл бұрын
How much does this setup run you bro?
@LeachimSagrav333
@LeachimSagrav333 2 жыл бұрын
Well it wasn't just the rods and pistons I got cams, intake etc...
@LeachimSagrav333
@LeachimSagrav333 2 жыл бұрын
Rods you can pretty much get anywhere for a decent price and depending on what piston you want. But give or take coyote rods with a decent piston get the rotating assembly balanced probably around 1,500 to 2,000 bucks for the bottom end.
@LeachimSagrav333
@LeachimSagrav333 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and the blower i got used for 2 grand.
@HV2AC
@HV2AC 2 жыл бұрын
You the truth
@MaverickWindsor351
@MaverickWindsor351 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Mustangs, what about the SVO? Ive seen a couple built for drag racing, but is there anything simple to really squeeze noticeable power from them?
@linoacuna4283
@linoacuna4283 Жыл бұрын
the 2v mustang is a fun car to drive sounds great as well am glad I own one
@jopatmontana6420
@jopatmontana6420 2 жыл бұрын
I was give my dads 99 crown Vic after he passed he loved the car I want to do something like this to it
@thetravi1348
@thetravi1348 Жыл бұрын
I’m building a 4.6 2v. Kellogg crank, forged h beam rods, and pistons. Using an NPI iron block and putting ported PI heads on. Using npi block and pi heads bumps the compression up and gives a bit more HP. I’m gapping the rings for a little boost. Mated with a 3650 standard. It’s going in a crown Vic. Not building it for power, but for fun. And it was the last project I was planning with my Mom before she passed away last week so I’m all in on this one.
@AngelLuisOquendoII
@AngelLuisOquendoII 10 ай бұрын
You have definitely helped me confirm that just buying the gen 3 swap kit from mars is more worth it.
@boostpack609
@boostpack609 2 жыл бұрын
Personally speaking as a 4.6 2v f150 owner the motor hauls and I haven’t gotten stuck once it’s a torque monster
@kskip4242
@kskip4242 2 жыл бұрын
4.6 2 valve can handle a lot more power on stock parts and it sounds a lot better than a coyote.
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
A 4.6 2 valve will be on its edge at 500rwhp where as a coyote is just getting started at 500rwhp..not too sure you got that right bud 😂
@edgarmorales1436
@edgarmorales1436 2 жыл бұрын
Throw some rods and pistons and you’re good go.
@DoctorRickSanchez
@DoctorRickSanchez Жыл бұрын
​@@eriv4735_But never did he mention a 2v handling more hp that a coyote he said a 2v can handle more hp than what guru was stating... stop assuming 🤡😂😂_
@zachc8833
@zachc8833 Жыл бұрын
@@eriv4735he wasn’t comparing power to coyote he was comparing sound🤷🏼‍♂️
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 Жыл бұрын
zachc8833 4.6 2 valve can handle a lot more power on stock parts AND it sounds better than a COYOTE… He’s CLEARLY comparing the power AS WELL AS the sound 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂
@joncat5beamngdrive
@joncat5beamngdrive 5 ай бұрын
Well worth it for me got my 1998 town car for around 300 dollars engine is in good condition
@Shot-by-brandon
@Shot-by-brandon Жыл бұрын
Bro people hate on the 4.6 it’s a great motor for a first sport oriented car I have one in my mustang and it’s my first car it has enough power for a newish driver I been driving since I was 11 and I’m 17 it doesn’t have to much power where it’s dangerous but it has some mods and it’s definitely fast enough
@livingweapon
@livingweapon 2 ай бұрын
yeah I thought about this for a long time seeing they still use the 4.6l to build the boss motors, I am looking at putting the 429 heads and headers and intake on the 4.6l and call it a day with that motor. I never been one to care about the 0-60 its more about the long haul. you're coyote motor is a 4.6l block bored out 4.6l block with a diffrent stroke, headers and and parts hooked up to a manual transmission
@grapeseed427
@grapeseed427 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, pretty much everything. Keep it up bro!
@davidrobbons2420
@davidrobbons2420 2 жыл бұрын
Dude your like my favorite person
@BIG_TreX
@BIG_TreX 11 ай бұрын
If it's not ford fast its ford tough. Alot of this engine also came from older models ford trucks that ig 1996-1999. I own one from 1999 f150 and surely they sound pretty cool in my opinion. They never game me problem other than filling my gas tank every once of week. They aslo had me buying antifreeze in the cold but surely starts right up. For all my 4.6 V8 owners they keep them maintain so they can maintain u.
@jonnathwill8318
@jonnathwill8318 2 жыл бұрын
People think it's so easy to coyotes swap but the wiring the control pack is what's going to hit you the hardest if you are not a diy guy
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 Жыл бұрын
It’s not as hard as all that..if you have a modular motor and ECU already it’s a direct bolt in and takes no more time than a 4.6 replacement 🤷‍♂
@doaburnout1205
@doaburnout1205 Жыл бұрын
Stage 3 heads stage 2 turbo cams mhs 4.6k forged block decent kit for 1000hp is 3k t56 kit 7.5k mind you still need about 1k in bolts another 500 in gaskets going to need atleast a Bullitt oil pump or better for 250 racing oil pan 1k timing kit 1.5k head covers another 500-1000 depending what ones you get. Labor to put it together and in is 4k minimal. Now all that extra add ons like bbk 78mm throttle body 300 the eddlebrok vic jr intake manifold is roughly 1.7k for everything needed for the swap over including adapter plate for 78mm bbk throttle body modified fuel rails and fittings. Next are fuel injectors upwards of 1.5k for 1000hp versions. Mishimoto radiator is 600 metal expansion tank is 600 exhaust headers of good source upwards 600+ if you're smart and wanna turbo it for the low you'd get the f150 version of forward facing turbo manifolds with hot side cross over for 1.2k and have minimal fab work aka 1/4 inch off the hot side and re-weld. Mishimoto hoses 600 for all new. Holley ecu set up 5k for harness ecu and install. Now we say it's really not cheap to build them but if you do you gotta gem of an engine.
@timothywalker2273
@timothywalker2273 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed I have a fully built 01 mustang GT I have every bolt on plus cam and ported heads I'm barely at 400 horsepower these are reliable engine's but not at all powerful unless you add forced induction
@johnplayzguitar1118
@johnplayzguitar1118 Жыл бұрын
You could have the heads ported and just buy an intake throttle and cams for it and save some money as opposed to the full top end kit
@CaseyGunn-e2k
@CaseyGunn-e2k 5 ай бұрын
You are exactly right!
@NewEdgeDesigns
@NewEdgeDesigns 4 ай бұрын
A modified 4.6 was used in the Koenigsegg CCX
@keithwattson9791
@keithwattson9791 2 жыл бұрын
My boy keep it up👍
@joshuahiggins5313
@joshuahiggins5313 7 ай бұрын
Yeah but you spend just as much money on the swap as you would building the motor. You may as well just keep the motor intended for the car. 2v’s can be fast. My boys got one that makes 550hp he didn’t coyote swap anything.
@robertaccorsini4663
@robertaccorsini4663 Ай бұрын
Can’t argue with that
@mr.louweeziana122
@mr.louweeziana122 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this 1
@jonathandavis7048
@jonathandavis7048 6 ай бұрын
Really good insight here
@S3cK5hun8
@S3cK5hun8 6 ай бұрын
I have an '02 Crown vic and I do kinda wanna find like a truck coyote and get the regular accessory drive and swap it into my car. Just woukd rather save the money to get an RT challenger 6MT and sell the crown vic in a few years when it becomes a 25 year old classic car.
@blank-re8qv
@blank-re8qv 2 жыл бұрын
hey dude, could you do a quick run on the toyota UR 8cyl family? plenty of content on the UZ series, but hardly anything on the newer stuff, especially on anything aftermarket.
@afterparty8275
@afterparty8275 Жыл бұрын
ur right bro i was bout to dump hella money into this mustang buh honestly ima make it sound nice and tske care of it til the engine give out the get me either a coyote or cobra engine
@crripper9770
@crripper9770 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, the amount of money I spent on my 4.6 2v I coulda done a swap or even built the bottom end for more power but I didn't have a place or knowledge to do anything like that but I did learn a lot doing that 🐆🤘
@Cultofpersonality09129
@Cultofpersonality09129 Жыл бұрын
Andrew lavender has minimal amount of money in a car that’s close to 1500 HP. With nothing but cobra crank, molnar rods, Diamond pistons, some cams and trick flow heads. $5000 worth of stuff. Half of you guys that are yapping don’t even or have ever owned a mustang. A stock 2V with ring gap will easily handle 550 to the tire and that’s in a 3200 lb car. Not 700 HP in a 4500 hellcat. I got my Blower from a young guy that rolled his parent vert GT and it was making 380 to the tire. A 550 hp fox or sn 95 can run 9’s with the right suspension and driver. Thanks for the laugh.
@jonathanglock390
@jonathanglock390 Жыл бұрын
You could also just swap to Lincoln MKVII heads which from 93-98 were 4v heads. Then build something off that.
@doaburnout1205
@doaburnout1205 Жыл бұрын
Soo tbf I'm in the process of building one of these fully built mhs stage 3 pi heads and stage 2 turbo cams 4.2k . Custom exhuast headers and hot side 1.2k. Eddlebrok vic jr intake manifold 550 mhs modified fuel rail 250. 80lb detwerks fuel injectors 680. Dual 340lph detwerks fuel pumps 400. T56 transmission kit with bellhousing drive train and clutch 5.6k turbo I recommend on3 2.6k. Forged rotating assembly from mhs 2.2k. Mishimoto radiator 600. Bbk throttle body 78mm 300. Bbk cai 200. Steeda underdrive pulley kit 300. If you dont have a good rear end the 31 spline conversion is 1.2k from lmr.This kit would be you're reliable 800hp at the wheels monster daily. Boost guages are optional price for you're budget build but really when you break it down you're going to put 10k down on any car just about soo that being said you pay 5k for the new mustang or crown vic I'd buy the heads first then the rotating assembly get that out of the way and start my turbo build or supercharger kit. I get people want the raw power first but that's not reliable build it respect it and boost it.
@SRT92
@SRT92 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t jegs or summit make stroker kits for these things? These engines don’t hold up well for boosting
@70bonnevilleguy53
@70bonnevilleguy53 2 жыл бұрын
There are a few panthers local to me making 650 Wheel with just boost from hobbled together turbo settups, and then you get my body who ran a 302 with nothing but roller rockers and boost at 700 wheel
@umakemerandy3669
@umakemerandy3669 Жыл бұрын
I didnt touch the engine and put a turbo on it. Had fun for last summer n blew it up in fall. Now its spring and time for a coyote or LS swap
@Dragonic_Wolf
@Dragonic_Wolf Жыл бұрын
In a 2005 Ford explorer that engine stock can walk away from mostly anything the only thing it can't is a hellcat hemi but with performance parts it probably could beat that too
@thadopestcarreviews101
@thadopestcarreviews101 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this
@MattB8030
@MattB8030 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, does anyone know if you can make other engines sound like the 4.6? I love the sound
@MGRracing
@MGRracing Жыл бұрын
I love the noise it makes when you hit higher rpm. Hard to describe it but it sounds cool af. I don't own a mustang but I do own a 4.6 v8 MG ZT 260
@wolfguard1180
@wolfguard1180 2 жыл бұрын
The 4.6L 2v that was in my 97 thunderbird was trash, but the 4.6L 4v in my 98 Mark 8 was had more potential.
@simbanugz2906
@simbanugz2906 2 жыл бұрын
those thunderbirds weighed so much, I can remember the first time i rode in a 4v mark 8 years ago. That thing was crazy fast for what it was back in the days it was a ultamite sleeper
@eriv4735
@eriv4735 2 жыл бұрын
Simba Nugz The mark viii is heavier than the thunderbird 😂
@perryshotwell7903
@perryshotwell7903 Жыл бұрын
The lincoln LS had a 3.9 litter v8 I bought an 05 ls with a mark 8 swap
@SoloStix
@SoloStix 7 ай бұрын
2v = elite, they sound really damn good, had a 2004
@bodyshotjake7475
@bodyshotjake7475 Жыл бұрын
What does a whipple gen 3 5.0 cost? What TR3650 or T45 for that matter is going to take that things 7500RPM abuse for long? The coyote swap is getting to be a real close call but for now the pistons rods boost and fuel 2v edges it out pretty good $ per HP wise. Unless your looking for more than 700 to the wheel the 2v is the cheapest option. For now.
@Grim0954
@Grim0954 7 ай бұрын
I have a 2005 Merc Mountaineer Premier with a 4.6L motor. How can I tell if it has got the 4 thread or 9 thread spark plug holes and how many valves? The more I look for information, the more confused I get. Found out the hard way on what valve cover I got by ordering the wrong one. Mine has 11 hold downs with 5 being on top. The one I got was a 12 hold down type with 6 on top. Any help would be great, thanx.
@brandonhenry894
@brandonhenry894 2 жыл бұрын
do a 3valve aswell pleaseeee i love these videos
@mikeschneider2161
@mikeschneider2161 Жыл бұрын
There is no replacement for displacement and don’t forget the power to weight ratio is key
@walterwilds6771
@walterwilds6771 Жыл бұрын
I'm mostly see you talk about V8 mods but I recently managed to get one of my dream cars 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix Daytona 500 with a supercharged 3800. And I would dearly love to hear your suggestions on modifications for my 🚀 " Rickie Bobbie "
@GunsClappin
@GunsClappin 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is I’m actually about to get one next week😮‍💨
@bygodfreeman
@bygodfreeman Жыл бұрын
Hope ya answer, but if ya don't, oh well. Got a 4x4 2004 f150 with the 4.6 2v. Would love just a bit more torque and hp in low end and mid range rpm, any suggestions? It ain't a racer, but it's a glorified farm/work truck. Swapping a A10 transmission right now.
@leopapio683
@leopapio683 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a vid on supporting mods! Everyone can get to 1000whp on a hellcat but most people never touch the trans or in durango or trackhawk case the transfer case!
@marioserrato2130
@marioserrato2130 Жыл бұрын
Can you review the 3v??
@bay6
@bay6 7 ай бұрын
I have 2 99-04 mustangs. Both v6, (bought my wife 1). I don’t know if I want to do a 4.6 or a 5.0 complete build. Not looking to getting into the racing scene just yet, but eventually maybe. I’m thinking of doing a termination build then buy a 2013-2017 v6 mustang then doing the 5.0 or whatever build. But like the cluster gauge is what’s eating me with coyote swapping the new edge😂. Any tips or suggestions on this?
@Evil3val
@Evil3val Жыл бұрын
Honestly interested in the 5.4 4v that came in navigators 32 valves forged crank in the 90s models if in not mistaken and the block can supposedly handle 800 hp
@midnight347
@midnight347 Жыл бұрын
That iron block can easily take 1000+ wheel with forged rods and pistons.
@dzleeyt
@dzleeyt 8 ай бұрын
ive a 2002 f150 with the 4.6l 2v pi motor. i spent about 3k on a billet aluminum rotating assembly, alum billet crank, cams, stage 2 valve springs and new oe valves. i can get 6500 rpm, at almost 390 hp. is it worth it? barely. do i like it? yes. would i do it again and better? hell yes, for cheaper too
@americanchauvinist1210
@americanchauvinist1210 2 жыл бұрын
The reliability is why I want a f150 with it
@ryantogo8359
@ryantogo8359 3 ай бұрын
Love them mercury krugers
@abitoffcenter383
@abitoffcenter383 Ай бұрын
Being the owner of a 4.6L 2v, I just don't understand the folks that say it's "the best" engine Ford has made. I'm also the owner of a 96 5.0L HO engine. My 5.0 will whip the s*it out of my 4.6L (non-PI) everyday and twice on Sunday. Recently I was able to get my hands on a good 5.4L with PI heads. If they'll work on my 4.6, I'll be swapping them out. Hopefully I will see a difference in performance. No, I'm not racing it. It's in a 97 F-150 XLT 4X4 that's been heavily customized. It has a 2004 F-150 King Ranch interior, 6 inch lift, a complete Cerwin-Vaga stereo system (2 12's, 3 amps, and has hit 101 Db), as well as several other things. You know, the stuff we mechanics do when we get bored. Anyway, if I don't see a noticeable performance increase. I'll be doing an LS swap. My goal is around 600 wheel HP. I'm just not trying to break the bank doing it. Plus if I do end up doing an LS swap, it's not going to be a complete loss. My son is doing a body off retro-mod on a 1973 F-100. I'll just give him the 4.6L if he wants it. Maybe the 5.4L if its worth freshening up.
@Thepurpleguerrilla
@Thepurpleguerrilla Жыл бұрын
Or you could just get a completely forged bottom end. 63mm turbo and run like 30lbs of boost that will get you close to 650-750 at the crank.
@prscustom2112
@prscustom2112 Жыл бұрын
With ported PI heads and manifold on a non PI short block, you can make 650 with 11psi
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