HOW TO! MAX HP 4.6L FORD 2V MODS!

[@JC-gw3yo]

I remember the 4.6 in a Crown Vicky was a smooth peppy little engine, but these mods really make it come to life. Especially for a light weight Mustang

[@stevemoore4439]

The 2V was introduced in 1991 in the Lincoln Town car. It was carried on in the E series chassis until 2014

[@Lookin4LoveInAllTheWrongPlaces]

I had a 93' Lincoln Town Car with the 4.6L DOHC. That thing was awesome. For a heavy ass car when you hit the gas she went.

[@NewEdgeDesigns]

@@Lookin4LoveInAllTheWrongPlaces no yo didn’t, it was either a Continental or mark 8 if it had the 32v dohc..

[@DavidValdezBigWaveDave]

@@NewEdgeDesigns imagine a town car with an Aviator swap tho 😎 that would be pretty kick ass.

[@HunterB738]

Wrong. It was the crown victoria

[@littlebearish]

Nice to see some info on these old 2 valve engines. Shame Ford didn't put this kinda effort into them from the factory. They were great engines, just a bit anemic.

[@maxskullic9879]

they made them that way so they last much longer then anything else. I still say the 4.6 is just two 2.3 4cly engines put together at the crank, that would explain why they have so much low end torque. Could have made it make more hp but they didn't want to risk the extra stress when they just wanted something that would last.

[@chrishansen7004]

@@maxskullic9879 they make alot of low end torque from the extremely long intake manifold runners and the stroke length, its pretty easy to make em rev to 7 grand with a trick flow top end kit and cams

[@midnight347]

@@chrishansen7004 honestly they weren't bad for the displacement for their time people kind of expect a little too much from them imo. They can make every bit as much power or more as the old 5 liter engines did with less displacement and they aren't lacking on torque. They're good engines for what they are.

[@Lecherous_Rex]

I liked the "triton" in the 97 f150, seemed to output considerably more torque than the 96 grand marquis I had

[@madmod]

@@midnight347 Not to mention, they have factory oem options to swap induction, and more importantly, heads that flow 230+cfm untouched. On 281 cubes, thats gonna be a healthy combo.

[@Four_Eyes]

Appreciate the dyno charts, they provide a lot more insight than just peak numbers. Great vid 👍

[@victoryLeo1]

@ Four Eyes any new content on the way . 🙏🏾

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Brother, I want you to know... Back in the day when you did this series I became your biggest fan! I built many 2V's and I love them.. We now have a 2V with a Carb and N20 in a 96 GT running low 5's in the 1/8 and high 8's in the 1/4... To my knowledge... I don't think anyone has ran faster on N20... Bad new is we are tapped out... At 304" the amount of Nitrous we are spraying will back up in the manifold and make a cool cloud above the Carb while going down the track!!!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Richard would you Autograph my 4.6 book that you wrote if I send it to ya?

[@m.r.s.mobilerepairservices8895]

Fogger systems in order

[@robertelmo7736]

Put a blower on it to shove it in? LOL Tim Matherly from MV Performance used to fly (8's in 1/4) with stock cast crank, pistons and rod topped off with those Trick Flow Heads. That is the secret. His car had a street blower and five speed at that and was heavy. Pretty impressive.

[@lifewithanxietyeveryday5897]

The 2v is the most underestimated motor ever.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

@@lifewithanxietyeveryday5897 while it has its issues... I agree with you! They are everywhere in wrecking yards and can be built up to Coyote type performance pretty easy... I have personally made over 2hp per ci ( 304" ) NA with a 2V and over 4 digit power on N20...

[@700HpVette]

Im not even a FORD guy, but I'll watch anything from Richard...

[@richardholdener1727]

That's the spirit-thnx for being first!

[@buiItnotbought]

I would watch richard put a cold air intake and cat delete on a honda motor lol

[@HioSSilver1999]

@@buiItnotbought i wouldn't go that far....lol

[@700HpVette]

@@buiItnotbought lol

[@700HpVette]

@@HioSSilver1999 LMFAO

[@jacobstrutner8232]

Never forget that the 2v sounds damn good too. Just as important kids

[@hastings6019]

Amen to that. Grandfather bought a 97 4.6 brand new as well as a 2004 5.4 brand new. Put the same flowmasters on each truck and the 4.6 sounds so much better.

[@ChadLisonbee]

Even the Ford guys are getting love. Awesome man!!

[@luciankristov6436]

The 4.6 2v is a golden engine. Even with 14:1 compression they run for ever and ever and ever lol. They never lose compression or power as long as you do your maintenance. Only gotta worry about the timing components. Do them ever 120k and youre good to go! They always get decent mpg even when built. I love this engine

[@basicallyjayden1]

My 04 f-150 with a 4.6L just hit 120k. What do you mean about the timing components and what would I look for?

[@Tommysmess]

Mine just hit 70k miles lol I had to have the engine rebuilt because it blew both headgaskets. And it's stock lol, very smooth running engine compared to my geo metro 3 cylinder

[@Ron45M]

@@basicallyjayden1 I got a 07 4.6 thing never had a issue and refuses to give up 🔥

[@madmod]

@@basicallyjayden1 Ive never had any timing issues. Only lasher ticks on old 2vs. Dont worry much unless you see material in your oil when changing. Plenty of stock timing components out there with 300k miles

[@basicallyjayden1]

@@madmod no need to worry about it now…head gasket shit itself. Engine blew.

[@94blowncobra94]

Thanks for giving the 2V mod motors some love! Build one up and hit it with 30+ boost. (Turbo Baby)...TEA has a ported Trick Flow head you can use.. DO IT.. Love the vids btw..

[@Mustang_Chris]

Check out Andrew Lavander (spelling?). He's running 8.0s and trying to break into the 7s.

[@richardholdener1727]

I tested the TFS heads-they work well-better than ported stock heads

[@Turbo_Todd]

Through a Turb on it now!

[@teal_2v338]

Richard Holdener tf heads are so $$$$ expensive😖

[@madmod]

Kudos for giving the old NPI stuff props. I payed $1300 for my 1996 GT auto. It went high 13s with very very few mods and on stock gears. There's a whole lot of fun to be had for cheap.

[@marcludwick512]

I know this is old, but what mods did you do? I have a 96 GTS auto. Got it for pretty cheap as well. Beat up daily driver for me. Brought it to the strip and pretty sure it did low 15's. But gotta pull my old timeslips out.

[@madmod]

@@marcludwick512 First mods i did that woke it up tremendously was a 99+ PI intake manifold and matching PI cams. I sourced these from a wrecked 2011crown vic. Only other bolt ons were a 70mm tb and a short ram cold air which probably add zero hp and a 3 inch x pipe which is probably overkill for a 2v but sounds wicked. For an auto trans, i reccommend jmodding it so it goes for a long time. J modding keeps the trans healthly by firming/quickening up the shifts. It may seem scary to dive into a trans but its pretty easily if you follow along a vid of someone doing it. It ca be done in the car and i would get done sooner rather than later. If youre really looking to impove ET's and have the money, a converter while youre performing the jmod would be a huge impovmemt.( Ive gone 12s spraying on a stock converter so not a "must" but its great for a NA car trying to get a good 60 foot). Only suspension goodies it has is upper and lower control arms in the rear, removed the front sway bar, fresh 90/10 front and 50/50rear shocks and installed a good set of MH tires. It ran low 14s high 13s regularly here in Iowa at Humbolt County. Pretty average DA driving an hour to the track n back. Weight reduction is really helpful too. I got my 96 Gt weighing about 3200lbs with me in it so its got a good 200lbs+ removed from it while staying mostly full interior.

[@marcludwick512]

@@madmod Ok, thanks. For the PI you just did intake and cams? What did you take out for weight reduction?

[@madmod]

@@marcludwick512 Yep. Npi heads and bottom end, pi cams and intake. Weight reduction was a ton of small stuff, ac delete, front sway bar, gutted trunk, no rear seats or trunk panel. Manual seat slider and lightweight seat, catless x pipe with dumps rather than the 6 cat midpipe and stockexhaust. It adds up quick

[@177SCmaro]

Thanks for doing stuff besides small/big block and LS chevy's. Great engines but it gets kinda boring doing them over and over.

[@misterbulger]

An awesome motor is an awesome motor. I don't care about brand. Show us a Honda K Series! I'd put that engine in anything. They can make such insane power and the mods are endless.

[@yeanah2571]

Agreed. I'm usually a Chevy guy, but I've owned 4 Crown Vics, including 2 right now. I needed this, desperately.

[@Go4BrokeOffroad]

Thank you for covering us all. We always get the BS campfire stories, I'm glad you're going to test everything sir.

[@nicklemaster6752]

Kinda shocked the hp and torque increase on the non pi head with just cams and bolt ons, thanks a bunch for the video rich🤘

[@gsppuffer]

2 valve love finally.Have a 98 pi swap with bullit intake and it scoots for what it is and now I know why it's pushing a lot more then what I thought it was

[@P71ScrewHead]

Amen bro, build that 2v, next step is a stroker forged internals n boost..

[@curtisgore1611]

97 f150 4.6 owner here first thing I did was bought a 5.4 pi motor and tear it apart and put nonpi pistons in it!

[@strumminandwrenchin9162]

How did that work out for you?

[@daleanderson7629]

channel is getting better and better dude. when you mention a supplier have you thought about calling them and setting up affiliate links if there interested. even if you link their website and get them a traffic bump they might hook you up with some gear to do more testing. It would be super ace to get advertised flow data for heads and see how that translates on the dyno. The content you making from mining old data is ace. can't wait to see what you can do when you get the rev stream you deserve.

[@BadgerBuilt]

I built my non PI 4.6 with pi heads because of this video. So far we managed to go 11.17 at 124mph in the quarter mile in my 4100# town car. Looking to install the 274 cams this winter. Hoping to put this boat in the 10s next spring

[@RayZilke]

I have a 4.6 1996 Cougar. One of the issues I'm running into is that there are no hand held tuners for this car. I would assume you ran into the same thing. What did you do for the engine management? I just got the thing running right (bought it 12 months ago) by repairing the issues and clearing the engine codes along with fresh plugs, wires, and filters. Now it's stock but running like new. So 205 hp.....

[@BadgerBuilt]

@RayZilke I bit the bullet and got a Holley Terminator MOD MAX kit. Ditched the factory ECU

[@RayZilke]

@@BadgerBuilt Thanks - I see what you mean by biting the bullet - these are $2.2K. Is there no way to get another 50 hp or so out of these motors without spending big bucks? I know the exhaust on mine is restrictive, but any decent exhaust upgrade is going to be at least $1,000. I'm thinking of pulling the heads and porting for more flow along with the exhaust. Or nitrous. Not criticizing your purchase, sounds like you've built a hell of a sleeper, I was just looking for a more modest gain for not more than about $1K.

[@BadgerBuilt]

@RayZilke get a set of PI heads and intake. That would be the biggest gain N/A. You can find a complete 4.6 PI used relatively cheap. I imagine a pick and pull yard would be the cheapest, but most labor intensive.

[@zilksmooth]

Thank you I may go that route

[@texasveteran5304]

I have a 97 4.6 tbird that I plan on doing these very upgrades to. Plus 4:11s, a racing torque converter and posi traction. It’s going to be a fun sleeper.

[@letstrythat00]

This gives me so much hope for my new edge. I've got to figure out how to do heads, can and timing. I literally bought this car to figure out how to do that. We will see how bad I mess it up. Your videos rock ,👍 please keep them coming.

[@NewEdgeDesigns]

Just throw a kenne belle 2.1 on it, skip all the nonsense, the pricing is negligible…

[@prestonedmonds4128]

You're the modern-day David Vizard! I'm no Ford guy at all but I enjoy this content and find it interesting.

[@robertmckee1431]

Love your channel. I miss my mm and ff. I read them every night. My kidneys quit in 2009 and my eye site got bad because of it so I can’t read my mags but your videos make up for it.

[@garymatthys3605]

Nice results. It would be interesting to see a 2V with the trick flow 2V heads.

[@nathanlopez5667]

If it's the whole top end kit from trick flow it's supposed to give you a total of 340 horsepower or maybe a little bit more

[@grizzlycali4508]

I have pretty much that same build sitting on my engine stand and need to quit slacking and drop it in my stang. This is the motivation I needed to see.

[@richardholdener1727]

ger er done!

[@ronb113]

I absolutely love stage build and comparison videos like this!

[@jacobburskey3044]

Would be cool to see what the 3v and 4v 4.6 combos can do as well, doesnt look the power is great but it has solid torque for its size, maybe even a 4.6 vs a 4.8 shootout

[@GabeOn26s]

I just need to add cams to my set up! That's It! I got a special spot in my heart for the 2V.. Good Dependable motor

[@GW-nu8hc]

02' Mustang GT with , 2v 4.6, 5 speed. Did : Vortech S Trim, Intercooler, 42lb injectors, long tube BBK's, high flow cats, Flow masters, steeda springs, lower 1" , Tokiko Struts/shocks, Steeda front/rear sway bars, Cobra Brakes, Sub frame connectors to tighten the convertible chassis, competetion shifter and clutch. Pre work dyno=220 hp @ rear wheels, Post modifications Dyno= 399.2 rear wheel hp, 385 lb torque. Woke it up. Bad Ass "BadHorsi". Still driving it hard 18 years later. Love it. About to put new paint and new Lemans Gold Metallic stripes. Love this car/engine.

[@Koyotito20]

I'm buying a f150 with the 4.6 and looking to squeeze some more power out of it eventually. This video is a huge help

[@blkmustang007]

Your videos are so simple and strait forward and to the point....info dense keep up the good work

[@svtbird9613]

I love the 4.6. Have one in my 96 Tbird. PI head swap with 262 cams, longtubes, and a tune. Dyno'd a touch over 300 to the ground. Recently got an SVO supercharger so working on fitting that up next.

[@maginnis5734]

How’d it turn out? I have a 97 Tbird

[@branigansgarage]

SVTBird96 did the head studs from the old non-PI heads work on your head swap? Im wanting to put a Non-PI bottom end in my 2002 GT when the engine gives way. Get those compression numbers up with my stock PI heads, cam, and a tune. Thoughts?

[@svtbird9613]

@@branigansgarage better if you get an aluminum 4v engine if youre really after a compression bump. Iirc 4v pistons with a PI combustion chamber will get you to around 13:1. Youll have to notch the pistons in the 4v so theres no collision though. Plus the aluminum block saves 80lb out the nose of the car. But yes ARP head studs for the PI and NPI are the same. At least from what I have seen.

[@yeanah2571]

@@svtbird9613 so the aluminum 4v bottom end, with the 2v PI heads?? I was thinking a full aluminum DOHC 4v swap in my Grand Marquis, but if this is correct, I'll just do an Aviator block and pistons

[@svtbird9613]

@@yeanah2571 Im not sure about the Aviators but internals but Id recommend using the complete long block. 4vs flow WAY better than 2vs. I just stick with 2vs cause Im weird.

[@Christopher_R]

Well now you’re screwing with my entire April 😂 I had a low(er) mileage PI engine all lined up to swap into a tired 2004 chassis. Now I have to find an older block, cams, and learn to port the heads 😂

[@aaronchustz8531]

All the way down here in Louisiana, guys know Richard Holdner. You are becoming synonymous with engines.

[@brianfuller4209]

Love the video man!! Fan of all your videos but I'm starting a build with the 2v non-pi block an eventually forced induction but your videos give me a clear view of what to expect an tips for everything else! Keep it up Man great work!!

[@richardholdener1727]

GOOD LUCK

[@steven44799]

The pi heads on the non pi bottom end worked way better than I expected it would, those 4.6 motors have a reputation for being terrible to modify for power.

[@JohnLittlepage]

Love these posts but it would nice to see the engine dyno runs to augment your findings.

[@fiordalisi12]

Rich, I am a subscriber. And you make quality videos. But I feel the information you present can be misleading to viewers without a mechanical background. Your engines may make real power and run a few times on the dyno. But while they hold on for those few runs, there is something us engineers call stress fatigue acting on all the stock components over the many life cycles an engine must go through on a daily basis. Most of us 2V guys use them as daily drivers. I'd be very surprised to see a high mileage 2V with the mods you showcase in your videos to be anywhere near reliable or even safe for the road. Racing applications are a different story. Great videos keep them coming 👍

[@djangoday9274]

I tried real hard to watch this video but I took a shot every time you said P.I. and now I'm in a coma

[@troymecey]

Not a Ford guy but I always find stuff like this interesting. Thanks

[@c-moneycantrell]

Finally some FORD videos!!!!! Can’t wait to see more ,,, did you ever mess with any 4v 4.6? Lincoln mark 8 setups ?? Your tha MAN!

[@richardholdener1727]

lots of 4V testing

[@manmage13]

Its the mark 7 not the mark 8

[@c-moneycantrell]

Appreciate the reply!

[@c-moneycantrell]

No it’s the Mark 8 or mark vlll as they put it ,, 1993-1998 4.6 dohc 4v per cylinder, basically same engine as 96+ cobra mustang but technically Lincoln MARK8 had it first (1993) and the cobras got it in 96,, don’t believe me do the research buddy

[@manmage13]

Your right chris cantrell. Just really getting into ford after being a chevy guy for years. Just bought a 07 crown vic p71 and was thinking about a 4v head swap. was really wondering if it will still fit in the engine bay i havent looked to hard but isnt the frame and steering arm kinda close to the 2v heads already. Not sure if 4v heads are bigger or not as far as the dimensions go. But thats fantasy talk really as im sure it would cost many thousands to spec it out properly like i would

[@brianjoyce3587]

What is your goal for this motor? I know you mentioned you are waiting on parts still. You should do a video of the parts you are putting into the motor. Hopeful gains, estimated cost, and after everything is complete put her on the dyno. I’m trying to get more into engine building, but I have a fear of not being able to put it back together after taking it apart haha. I have a goal to PI swap my 4.6 NPI. Maybe add links to what parts you have purchased so we the people can make a similar build.

[@richardholdener1727]

this motor was tested 20 years ago

[@Wild9C1]

Now 4.6 dohc and the various heads b vs c etc.

[@Spad68]

Are we talk about 2 vavle or 4 vavle . Cause that car that I'm aware of making 2500hp is a 4 vavle

[@ranware2779]

@@Spad68 most definitely not referring to a 2v they're either non pi, pi, or tricflow. 4v is b-db heads

[@trevorvaughn5562]

03/04 heads for street and anything below 8000 rpm, the dual runner b heads are better above 8000 but the later c heads still make good power up there too

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

@@trevorvaughn5562 agree. only reason to use b heads in any street car is to save money. the c heads are better in every way for a street car.

[@tashawegmueller1866]

I'm so happy to see someone build one of these, I have one of these non pi 2v engine and a set of 04 heads, I just don't have the car any more

[@ariczacari]

What year is the 4.6 from? Are those heads a 2 valve? Thanks in advance

[@tashawegmueller1866]

@@ariczacari out of A 96 mustang GT, the spare set of heads are out of an 02 GT

[@branigansgarage]

@@tashawegmueller1866 did you do the head swap yourself? what issues did you run into that aren't recorded?

[@tashawegmueller1866]

@@branigansgarage I have not touched the engine it was a swap that never happened, so it'd just a complete engine and a bare set of PI heads

[@dilsher12]

Would be cool to see what the DOHC heads from Lincoln mark viii? was it will do

[@canadianrcs9931]

4v swapping the engine is hard because there is a big drop in compression. You’d be better off just buying a complete 4v engine

[@SOHCGT96]

@@canadianrcs9931 Correct, you have to change so many parts you're just better off getting the whole thing. I did my homework back in the day and did a 4V swap on my 1996 GT with a Mark VIII engine.

[@JesusSaves86AB]

Coworker of mine sold his Mark VIII LSC for 1500 last year, I should have bought it.

[@Roddy_Zeh]

@@canadianrcs9931 In the case of a full 4v engine swap, are there any adaptations necessary in terms of engine mounts and other things such as accessories (A/C compressor, water/oil pump, pulley, etc)? Or the underside of both are identical in that aspect?

[@MoctezumasRevenge1]

@@Roddy_Zeh there is a difference, there's coolant plumbing right in front of the alternator on a 4v that's not present on a 2v.

[@tomwhite9034]

Everything is something you learn from Richard that's what I like about him and his very clear on how speaks.

[@invujerry]

I’ll more than likely mod a 2v but damn do they sound pretty rad in a mustang with flowmasters.

[@sepg5084]

Ford put OHC but used 2V only, just like a pushrod motor but with a taller head. they should've at least tried to go 3 valve. effective areas of differing valve quantities as proportion of cylinder bore. 2 valves = valves are 50% of cylinder bore area 3V = 64% 4V = 68%

[@JMKady76]

@@sepg5084 They did the 3 and 4v later on, gotta remember these debuted in the Town Car, they weren't meant to rev high or make big power.

[@RippinRaz]

Sep G Even in 99-2000 they made a 4V cobra. Then the terminator cobras from 03-04 were also 4V with a supercharger. 05-10 were also 3v’s on all gt’s.

[@Mangobrain82]

Carson Rasnic cobras had the 4v since 1996

[@TheJoey3590]

Even with stock exhaust 2 valves sound amazing.

[@acemobile9806]

That's amazing. Knocking on the 100hp/L door. Imagine how much fun running an SN95 would be with that kind of stealth setup...

[@bigsmooth6346]

I really love your videos and enjoy information you give. I have a really interesting idea as a test to do. 3 absolutely identical engine builds, ideally with freshly machined blocks, and all identical parts. The test would be putting old rumors to bed. I've heard several people over the years say things like "I've built engines and never used a torque wrench and never had an issue" or "you've always gotta use a torque wrench and torque sequence" the thought is on each build same parts same build but different torque methods on all fasteners. Torque wrench, impact gun, and feeling it with traditional hand tools. I know it would be EXPENSIVE to set up but itd be really interesting to see the dyno results, and if you could do some long term running engine durability.

[@03mm24]

Best video on the 4.6 I've ever seen...hell this might be one of the best vids I've ever seen period 🔥

[@richardholdener1727]

Appreciate that

[@busij44]

Thanks for the mod motor 4.6 info!!! Good stuff!!

[@sssrp80]

Richard is the man! This dude is more than a wealth of knowledge, he's a badass with all that Ninja warrior course in his backyard.

[@SGTRacing]

2v needs more cowbell!

[@DerDoppelagent]

I'm still in the game! Just picked up TWO non-SC Saleen 2Vs. A 2001 in Mineral and a 2002 in Zinc. Paid $24k for both.

[@watchforone]

I'm a older Ford guy and enjoy watching Richard's videos! I'm building a Mustang 1994 with a 1994 Mark 4.6 4 valve. I want to put 2 turbo's on it. What can I do to keep it simple.

[@TheNightmare692009]

I have a fully forged bottom end with blower cams ready for install. Heads were cleaned up with new seals. No porting. I’ll be throwing on a Vortech V3 with a 3.15 pulley with a 10% overdrive lower and long tube headers. Can’t wait to see the numbers at the wheels.

[@guitarpro48]

amazing motor. very underrated motor. 281ci cranking out over 400 hp very nice

[@TheVenom8343]

Very much so! You've got to think, back in the day, the Ford top of the mill 289 made, what, 306 after Shelby got done with it? A regular mill 289 made, what 270 or so? That has to mean something right? I love the damn 2V 4.6's!!

[@cainmcclure4039]

@@TheVenom8343 I believe the old gt40 ran off a similar block and the drivers wanted mo powa bby so they finally went to big block but gotta love a small v8 outrunning some of the newer tech

[@robinesavage404]

@@TheVenom8343 I also love the 4.6/5.4 2v's!! Everyone dogs them out and believes that they are gutless turds.... That's one of the reasons why I love em. I love the underdog! And the look on their faces when you tell them that they got outrun by a 4 6 2v😏.. And they are bullet proof! I've personally seen dozens of them with 500k+ miles on unopened ones, and one with a little over 760k miles with no smoke or rattles! I own a 98 Mustang GT 4.6 2v with 520k original miles and never had a valve cover off. And it starts every time I turn the key, and it's never left me beside the road..

[@Allspadez]

@@robinesavage404 the reliability is Awesome, but I've Always disliked mine when it came to making power(and the pathetic TR3650 trans). I kept it stock for YEARS until I swapped it out(the aftermarket was poor and Fast examples were far and Very Few... especially for the money). It has it's horrible stigma for a reason.

[@johnjones928]

@@TheVenom8343 The race prepped 289 FIA Cobra and Daytona racers were the closest analog to what Richard built for this test, they made 385 HP in endurance trim.

[@icemachines69]

My 2010 Ford F-150 Single Cab/Short Bed truck have a 4.6 2 v engine... It still drives like new... I love it...

[@charlesdalzell4061]

2010 isn’t that a 3v?

[@robertobetancourt7881]

Great video Richard ,give me motivation to work in my 2v , more videos like this👍

[@nicholaswidlewski8876]

I remember reading all those MMFF articles, and I believe a book you put out on them as well.

[@strumminandwrenchin9162]

2:06 but don't that mean "Premium fuel required?" on a Ford 4.6L SOHC NPI with PI heads? Asking this as I want to rebuild my stock 1998 Ford Crown Victoria 4.6L engine when I have 10,000 USD cash for the project laying around.

[@richardholdener1727]

we ran our testing on 91

[@strumminandwrenchin9162]

@@richardholdener1727 How will it hold up as a daily driver in urban America using 87 octane gas?

[@anthonylongo2092]

@@strumminandwrenchin9162​​⁠ I’m no expert, but to help you out, if you’re running pi heads on a non pi motor, you’d be making about a 10.5:1 compression ratio and with compression that high you wouldn’t wanna run anything other than 93 because you’d be risking pre detonation . So if I would do that to my non pi motor I’d be running 93 all day and if you can maybe even tune it to E85

[@strumminandwrenchin9162]

@ Unless, I reach a position in life where I make at least 8K USD a month take home, I would, without question run 93 octane on my Crown Vic upon if and when I get to do that PI head swap and rebuild on my existing, 170,000 original NPI motor. For now it's still running good, but have a strong desire to rebuild the engine, giving it a new lease on life when it reaches 250,000 miles. My two options would be a standard stock rebuild or that PI head swap.

[@bman9469]

Actually glad I have non pi now. When I get the time/money I'll rebuild and swap. Good info!

[@Dustinscustoms]

Freaking sweet you did a video on the 2v

[@XL883CNick]

These videos are great information and always drive home the point of airflow = HP!

[@interceptor0166]

Thats a nice police interceptor set up.

[@BlackTownie999]

or Town Car

[@madmod]

​@@BlackTownie999Missed my panther platforms so much I bought another Vic again

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

Pretty good gains from the ‘ol 2 valve with just those mods and no boost!

[@coreyrowe2052]

I am a Ford guy, so thanks for making this vid!!👍👍👍 Although, I will say that the 4.6L 2 valve is a pretty anemic engine. 4 valve, supercharged Terminator ftw!!

[@bearfoot25]

I bolted on a used vortech v3 kit with lightning MAF and injectors and a kennebell boost-a-pump for $1500 and that puts me over the stock Terminator RWHP. thats without an intercooler. I can Add an intercooler and a pulley swap and get close to 500rwhp. best of all i can drive it without getting into boost and get the factory or better MPG.

[@ryanmalin]

The compression ratio. When you use the non pi motor with the pi heads. I owned 4 Ford Thunderbirds, all with the non pi 4.6. My mom had a mark viii with the 32v, that had 285hp/285tq, it had a 2.73 gear though so it wasn't a drag car but it was a great highway cruiser

[@tripblkver03gt]

This was cool, want to see more sohc stuff. Wonder how the 6.2 sohc truck motor would sound in a new edge compared to a 4.6, 5.4 & the new 7.3. Power is great but driving experience means more to me for a street machine. Would love to swap my tired 4.6 for more cubes but if it doesn't sound as good then I'll just stick with the 281. :)

[@midnight347]

Swap a 5.4 2v bottom end and bore it out to. 5.8 and give it some good compression and a trickflow top end kit it'll make some damn good power and sound ungodly. Pretty easy swap too it's basically a bigger 4.6.

[@ivypixley7451]

Was just about to do this exact build for mi 2001 expidition no nitrous tow rig for my car always good info very helpful to see results of the intended build thanks again lil bit

[@P71ScrewHead]

build your 2v bro, or 4v, whatever your truck has..

[@madmod]

I wonder how much vacuum that cammed NPI combo pulled at WOT with the stock intake manifold. Id bet its atrocious. A pi intake manifold would have changed that combo dramatically.

[@thechocolatestarfish904]

Richard, you have no idea how many times I have referenced this video! I have a ‘98 GT and I’m currently looking to make the cheapest 12 second car. Got the cat-less H pipe and long tube headers, PI heads with 81k miles (very good condition), PI Intake, and I’m looking at getting a set of Comp Cams that are just slightly smaller than the ones used in the video. For my guy to install it all, combined with the price of the parts… looking at just over $3,000. I got a lot of great deals on my parts, but still, this thing will put down 400hp for essentially nothing in price! I’ll be back with updates

[@richardholdener1727]

add a cheap nitrous kit-then you are easy 12s. maybe 11s

[@aviator97msncom]

You just validated my build. A 96 2v with 99 cobra pistons, 274xe cam, mild pi heads and intake, long tubes. All degreed and assembled carefully. Left to right balance seems to be an issue with these engines. All my research told me I would be lucky to get 300 hp. My butt dyno, a finely tuned instrument, kept telling me closer to 350 hp with a peak around 6,500. Been shifting close to 7,000. Your dyno sheet seems to support my estimations. Now I am going to have to go out and get some ported heads, or maybe tricflows? I would love to see a compare between tricflow and ported.

[@bradwhite4827]

Trick flows are awesome. Definitely will give you power from what everyone has told me. Coming from some good people though that I actually trust. I have the 4 valve in mine but still love the hell out of a nice 2 valve.

[@88tcoupe]

Great video! Just curious, what was the static compression ratio after the head swap and what octane fuel was used for testing?

[@genepatrick]

I’m normally not a Ford guy I’m definitely not a mustang guy. But someone just gifted me a Mustang so it looks like I’m gonna be very interested in the 4.6 videos! Hahahaa (and yeah you make great videos ,so I’ll watch pretty much anything you put out!)

[@jared2594]

could you do this same video for the pi version? I've got a 2003 F-150 4.6 2v 5-speed and I'm wanting to get 350-400 hp out of it. Thanks!

[@richardholdener1727]

same results minus the compression

[@afxtuner2931]

I remember doing all these same modifications and alot more on all these modular Engines sohc & dohc when I had my Dyno. Fun times...👍

[@danielmclean9492]

Hey Richard, a little off topic but it would be cool to see a test of different exhaust sizes after the collector on an NA setup just to see if the bigger you go the more power or if you start to loose exhaust scavenging

[@P71ScrewHead]

yes, bigger is better.. Don't believe the back pressure idiot crap..lol

[@kencohagen4967]

Richard, I love the content of your videos. I'm learning a lot. I sold Auto Parts and worked in machine shops for 20 years, but changed careers in 1997. A lot of stuff has come along since 97 and thanks to videos like this, I'm learning a lot. My only compliant it that your hand gestures whenever your talking, and we all talk with our hands, are really exaggerated, repitive and occur when there's no need for the added emphasis. They can be off putting. Please understand that I'm not trying to make you fell bad about yourself, but help you refine your presentation to be the most effective it can be! Thanks for all the hard work you put into these, and I hope to see many many more of them. P.S. I hate Nitrous!

[@zedwpd]

I watch a lot of youtube videos and speed them up to save time. Increase his video to 2x speed and enjoy the info he provides while he looks like he is doing cardio.

[@vincentenk4449]

I'm thinking about a rebuild like this for my '95 Town Car! Hot Rod Lincoln lives! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bigbrick4245]

Vincent Enk lol you redo the town car and I’ll redo my Lincoln LS. Really would put the truth back into hot rod Lincoln’s lol

[@StamatakosTom5791]

@@bigbrick4245 OMG that build in an Lincoln LS would be one helluva sleeper WOW!

[@ryanmcnabb306]

My wife's 99 Expedition has 320000 miles on it. It's not a powerhouse but it's reliable. Just change the spark plugs every 80k and torque them tight and they won't blow out👍.

[@hemidan407]

I’d like to see the same mods added to a 5.4 2v and see the results.

[@xevious2501]

Talk about subscribe!!!! Man this is IT!, exactly what ive been waiting for!. A way to produce great power to the old 4.6 2v without going by way of nitros . I still have me very first car purchased new in 1996, A Saleen s281 Speedster. And I absolutely loved my car for all it was worth. Even knowing full well it was a bit slower than the outgoing 5.0 GT. Indeed coming to that power disparity was a bit of a downer, but the Saleens overall perfomance in its handling steering and basically everything else that mattered outside of raw power was far superior to any stock 5.0 GT mustang. so the tradeoff for me was well worth it. and i always said to myself, when the car was older, then ide opt for power upgrade options. Of course blowers was always on the mind, but for some reason i always knew their was more to be had from the 2v engine. And here we are today 2020, old skool project indeed, and its time to restore my saleen. and what a better time to get 'modern' power out of it. I mean after all people are making 600hp our of 3 cylinder engines (koenigseggs LBF) what a great video man!! T H A N K Y O U !!!!! im going to do exactly this settup. and also take a look at your other 2v mods.

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

I'd like to see how much power you can get out of a 2V 5.4L Lightning engine with all the boost.

[@brandona4618]

I had an old 2v. 5.4 in my Z for several years eventually blew it after 2 years of +25lbs. It now has a 5.4 with ported 2v navi heads. Also rebuilding my 4.6 romeo in my work truck with the 5.4 2v heads and a victor intake

[@nuttynut54]

Really the 5.4 2v heads fit onto the 4.6 2v really,, wonder if the 5.4 3v crank would fit on the 4.6 as a stoker.. because most of the mod motors are the same parts for the 2v, 3v, 4v engines

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

@Ford Fanatic Modular motors can support massive amounts of power...Its what's powering the the record setting Ford GT sanding mile car.

[@brandona4618]

@@nuttynut54 the 4.6 and 5.4 are the same block with the 5.4 having a longer stroke(taller deck). Most all 4.6 2 v stuff will fit on the 5.4. Except the intake ive got adaptor plates on all my 5.4s to fit the intakes. There are zero 5.4 2v intakes that are worth the money. Build a custom one or just use the OE truck or 4.6 intakes with the plates. Think i paid 100 bucks a set for the adaptor plates when i got them.

[@brandona4618]

@@nuttynut54 if u use the 5.4 crank in a 4.6 ull have to measure rod length pr youll slam the piston into the head due to the longer stroke

[@weallsobad7320]

My nephew had a 4.6 in his Stang! I think it was a 4 valve! But i couldntbelieve the power out of this big little motor! Except for buying parts, Ford knocked it outta the park with this little pony!

[@P71ScrewHead]

Amen, they are nice..

[@logical_volcel]

great to see the full powercurve and show how while it makes 140hp from 260 it really doesn't lose any low end hp or torque, all good to say the peak number but if it takes you a lifetime to get there its no fun

[@takeastandorbeenslavedby-left]

This is a great video, this motor is so abundant it needs to be talked about

[@jeremymurphy7320]

Speaking of Ford OHC engines, today is 4/27, National SOHC Day

[@bwtjma183]

Love the way you set up your vids!

[@James-WM]

Would love to see the trick flow heads on this block

[@JB-zn1kx]

I run TF heads on my 5.4 2V. A 3.4 Whipple spinning as slow as I can make it puts out 620 on a chassis dyno. The 2V is a great platform

[@A.J.1656]

I'd really like to see you do a test of the Trick-Flow 2v heads with Trick-Flow cams and Modular Head Shop's Trick-Flow specific cams. From what MHS says, Trick-Flow's cams aren't designed for their heads. It would be really interesting to see it tested.

[@richardholdener1727]

the trick flow heads work with any cam

[@A.J.1656]

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[@A.J.1656]

@@richardholdener1727 Did you watch the video where it's proven they aren't correctly designed for the heads? I'd love to hear your thoughts on what was shown.

[@DinsdalePiranha67]

I heard PI and at first I thought it stood for "Police Interceptor".

[@Dontfearthereaper001]

😂

[@SilverBullet93GT]

@@Dontfearthereaper001 we all did in the beginning

[@benpeirce2531]

I liked your video. I'm just starting to learn about the 4.6 . I'm to old school 70's early 80's Dirt tracker. Now the family raised I've retired have a shop full of tools covered in dust I'm Bored. Hell, didn't know there was a PI motor till watching the video. What I'd sure like to know is if you took a PI, motor cut about 10 tho -- off the heads ported it put a set of bigger cams in put the headers on a larger fuel pump and 8, 460 injectors. How would this work out in a little lite straight line car??? Sure wood love hear from anyone.

[@hectorn.6137]

great info for crown vic guys.

[@TaylorMadejdm1975]

🆕️ Boy you could really put some coyotes in their place with that combination, nice job! 👍

[@jameshowlett8811]

Please more videos on the v2 4.6

[@davidbailey4036]

Yes please

[@martyk1156]

Years back I pulled the intake off a f150 . One head had square ports the other had rounded ports. Service manager said to just do what I had to do to make it work. It appeared to be that way from the factory only had 20k on it. Seemed to run just fine.

[@richardholdener1727]

square port and round port? on an F150?

[@martyk1156]

@@richardholdener1727 the intake ports are different shape on the power improved heads.

[@martyk1156]

@@richardholdener1727 the truck had one of each on it.

[@cleophusmcgillicutti7408]

Richard please do some testing on the 4 valve 4.6 motors. id love to see a comparison between the 2v vs the 4v versions of this engine.

[@P71ScrewHead]

40-60hp bro..

[@cleophusmcgillicutti7408]

@@P71ScrewHead ...yeah stock. I mean in terms of horse power potential when modding the engines.

[@P71ScrewHead]

@@cleophusmcgillicutti7408 depends on the internals it comes with.. But the 4v will always make more hp.. Still would be a nice comparo.. When it comes to cost tho the 2v wins, costs less to build n less parts to funk up.. I prefer the 2v..

[@cainmcclure4039]

got a 98 f150 that has rebuilt internals and this was very helpful once i get a new truck it's turning into the the project trcuk and this info was very useful thank you

[@CDC-Vprototype]

4.6L northstar V8 I want to see what you can do with that cause not many know

[@noah_camaro]

I got a northstar car 2002 deville that thing pulls pretty good when you let it rev out its a shame that most of them are lemons

[@CDC-Vprototype]

Noah P it’s not really that they are lemons 🍋 it’s just not a lot of people know how to take care of them and they treat them like Hondas or beater cars when they’re not designed to be driven like that unless you put the money down to make it like that

[@stlchucko]

Those are some good gains. Give an old SOHC some respectable power. Definitely have gotten spoiled with the LS; getting 400+ hp with just a cam in a 4.8L.

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

400hp N/A in a 4.6 2v is possible

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

Take this over any stock scatpack or R/T any day in a 2011 Crown Vic 😂

[@snooterdavid1969]

How does just a cam give a 295hp 4.8 such a big jump.

[@stlchucko]

@@snooterdavid1969 That 295hp is the SAE figure (accessories, full exhaust, factory tune, etc). With the way Richard dynos them (gross hp), a LR4 4.8 (rated 255-285hp) typically makes 330-340hp with headers, no exhaust/accessories, optimized tune, etc. A decent size cam makes 400hp dynoed similar.