Is the $600 M4 Mac Mini Good Enough for Music Production?

[@jonathanbobo722]

Don’t make a seperate channel, just keep it up and make whatever you wanna make , we are here for it

[@LDreTheGiant]

Needed to hear this 🙏🏾

[@FromBummyToMoney]

He couldn't have said it better

[@aj_introduction]

@@LDreTheGiantyeah mn don’t make another channel just do it here, we ain’t going anywhere

[@tacoP_channel]

This real life music production test is what I’m looking for since m4 series releases Thanks for the great works.

[@LDreTheGiant]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@slim1446]

Yes bro. We need a tech KZbinr who is knowledgeable in the music production world and can run actual real world tests instead of just adding tracks on tracks until it crashes. Keep up the good work 🔥

[@emorisson]

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[@MITCHBR0WN]

I'm still using a MacBook Pro from 2006.... This is the Mini ive been waiting for!

[@MITCHBR0WN]

@mrfairact8662 🤣 2006! I know... Bought it new in 2006..It's a dedicated Logic Pro computer running Snow Leopard and Logic 9... I did upgrade the hard drive to a 256SSD (it came with 100gb) and the ram to a whopping 2gb

[@paulsmith1052]

Well played Sir - that was a good move - this thing packs a punch for the value from everything I have scene and read

[@isaiahclayton8178]

Sir, I’ve been taking my air from 2013 and it’s killing me. I can’t run anything the moment I put the channel Eq on lol. It’s bad.

[@spunicunifait2697]

I still have a Powerbook from 2005 and it works! No need to dump older machines.

[@isaiahclayton8178]

@ really mine? My 2013 Air overloads the moment you press record. I love that your machine still works!!

[@armandobalmaceda3548]

Thanks for this. Best way to look at it by comparing with what you currently have!

[@liltrboofficial4671]

Thank you so much for doing this video as a blind person, this is a really good budget. Thank you so much. I really love audio production.

[@LDreTheGiant]

I’m glad I could help!

[@MaximoMondini-u6m]

Keep everything together on 1 channel. I thought about doing multiple artist pages and i figured we are at the point where all artist are making all genres of music and personally I think it's amazing. So keep you YOU! On one channel.

[@LDreTheGiant]

Love that!

[@lakefl0w]

FINALLY a real world use case for the base M4. I have an M1 MBP that just sits in clamshell while working with Logic. You got me ordering the mac Mini m4 Base. Thank you sir.

[@emorisson]

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[@LDreTheGiant]

Glad I could help!

[@yurmomsboifrend]

M4 for $600???? Hell yeah!!!!

[@LDreTheGiant]

Right!!

[@so.tiredmusic]

Man, I love this! I've been researching the Mac Mini M4 daily but no ones covered Music Production. Trust my boy L. Dre 😎 Thanks for this.

[@LDreTheGiant]

Glad I could help you out. 🙏🏾

[@YoungArcader]

I love the tech/music production videos together. We really want to know how all of the tech measures up to our music production software and anyway. I can never find reliable videos until now. Keep them together on this channel please and thanks.

[@0711RC]

Thanks man, I've been waiting for the real test. Greatly appreciated.

[@LDreTheGiant]

No problem, glad it's helpful!

[@minkahdesign1407]

Love the approach! Thanks for all you do! Solid info. I'm def getting the Mini

[@The.lofi.legend]

Keep everything in one channel! The tech reviews for music creators is very unique! You're killing it bro

[@gumbilicious1]

I am running 16gb m1, it does everything need to for music production so the m4 should be plenty good. Just get a fast external SSD to keep your projects and powered usb hub with usb a and c for connections and you’ll have about everything you’ll need from a computer

[@al_gatorr]

You got the cleanest / most unique background outta all these producer channels

[@joshmcali.sk8]

Dude I want one of these 😂 Hell yeah it’s good enough for music, the last 2 generations have been good enough. This has a lot of power for the price 🔥

[@LDreTheGiant]

It really is a steal for the power! 🔥

[@mystertom100]

Of course it is, i used the base m1 mini for a few years after coming from a pc and it was fine

[@MeZdaDon301]

My issue is just jumping into the mac eco system with added cost of all the needed peripherals, mouse, keyboard, etc, not to mention hooking up my gear. But none the less one day 😅

[@deepzone31]

My M1 is still running Logic flawlessly. I recommend something with a decent hard drive capacity as my production folders (between samples and stock sounds and project files) have obliterated the 256GB.

[@BlitzyCobain]

Same my M1 with Pro tools and I can’t crash it I’ve tried!!

[@gauravmugutrao]

Now this is how a review should have been like, thanks much

[@Serjm87]

Nice test. The base model Mac mini can handle a lot more stress on Logic. I am pretty sure that has to do with the optimization of Apple's DAW running on Apple silicon. It would be an interesting video to compare Logic and Ableton on the same Mini.

[@JohnSHigham]

Ableton and Logic are 2 of the least optimised DAWs out there. Reaper, Cubase and Pro Tools all take full advantage of the efficiency cores. Apples own DAW doesn’t. If you watch James Zhan “M4 Pro vs M3 Pro vs M2 Pro vs M1 Pro” it shows this to be true. It’s just plain embarrassing for users of FL Studio and Studio One. They perform the worst out of all of the DAWs tested. Given the higher number of efficiency cores over performance cores on the M4, the differences will be even wider.

[@andyswitch]

@@JohnSHighamexactly what i was about to write down. Im using Reaper on M1 macbook air and that thing is flying through projects like a champ.

[@Serjm87]

@ ah, learned something new.

[@LucasIsLight]

I will be picking up a M4 Mac Mini Base Model!!! Thank you for making this video!!!

[@LDreTheGiant]

You’re gonna love it!

[@LucasIsLight]

@@LDreTheGiant based on its performance I definitely think I will!

[@daprodukt1981]

Been looking for a video doing exactly this, thanks 👍🏾

[@LDreTheGiant]

No problem 👌🏾

[@CR4SHN8URN]

I’ve had it for 4 days now ….. I can’t even express coming from a 14700k 4070ti build that cost me 2k , wow!! Apple outdid themselves

[@LDreTheGiant]

I'm glad you're loving it!

[@GeorgeAmodei21]

I'LL JUST WAIT FOR THE M4 "STUDIO SPECED OUT! Yes this will work for most :)

[@imerriweather1]

what about a dedicated Tech Day instead? and thanks for this. my first apple was a mac mini 3 years ago. i had been attempting to make music and edit photos and video with an IBM and an HP laptop that I spent way too much money for. They were outdated after a few years. i remember having to start export wedding photos just before going to bed because the process took so long and sometimes i would wake up and the system would have crashed or updated in the middle. Anyways...the money i spend on my mac mini, i got back in just a few weeks from being faster! peace!

[@LDreTheGiant]

Thanks a good idea thanks!

[@koliisrael9984]

Been watching you for years bro keep up the good work. Be Different make music with the tech stuff that you have. I'd watch it. That MAC MINI is a game changer

[@LDreTheGiant]

Noted! Thank you 🙏🏾

[@Studio_4to1]

Now, THAT’s the review we all needed. TYSM

[@LDreTheGiant]

Of course!

[@AdilConstantineMusic]

Solid Video man! Love the transition to tech review vids with music production flare 🔥

[@LDreTheGiant]

Glad you enjoyed it! I know you probably subbed to the other channel but sorry I’m still figuring it out lol

[@mflotron]

Pro pro tip: you don’t need an edu email to get edu prices 👀

[@aashishjhaa]

Really?

[@slim1446]

You don’t. I put my regular email in by accident and they didn’t verify anything and I still got the discount. This also works for the pro apps bundle that includes Final Cut and logic for only $200

[@mastersimz9531]

Thank you for this. Now I have an idea on how to work when I get mine.

[@LDreTheGiant]

No problem, I hope the video helped!

[@mastersimz9531]

@@LDreTheGiant yeah it did man. My current projects have multiple instances of Ozone, Native Instruments Kompelete & Soothe2 on an old Intel i5 Windows laptop, pretty sure the Mac Mini base (I'm upgrading the SSD though) will handle everything I throw at it.

[@busyworksbeats]

Thank God! Somebody who understands our perspective! Thank you, cuz we needed to know about music production; video editing AND even live streaming.

[@LDreTheGiant]

My guy 🙏🏾

[@simonsmith2642]

I would say Im using Logic with Maschine and Kontrol and Amplitube/Tonex as well as all Toontack, live with my electric acoustic and 2 mics when we play live, and Ozone when mixing, on an M1 Air.. in low latency mode. With no glitches at all. So I would say yes its powerful enough to do what you do. Now I can not slap Ozone on the master without massive lag, which is nomal for Ozone on the master.

[@zeuslgn]

If you're gonna slap in more ram and storage, the price sans edu discount doubles to $1200 which is just $400 shy of tbe M4 Pro with the same ram and storage which might be worth it if you really need that much extra horsepower. Otherwise, standard M4 should be fine for most.

[@neilloughran4437]

Yeah definitely good enough.. the storage is the only limitation as Apple is pretty good with handling RAM though 16GB is minimum... I am running Logic/Ableton on M1 16GB mac mini from a few years ago with no problems.... love your chords btw... very Brenda Russell "In the Thick Of It"...

[@JONTHEDREAMER]

Thanks for the video bro! As for keeping the content on her vs starting a new channel! we have enough tech guys! what we need is music producers reviewing tech. It's a great niche.

[@H-4-D3423]

Gr8 vid Bru, wudda loved u too push that M4 Mini project a bit further with 512 buffer and see what tracks it hit. Easy like from me...

[@tablatom]

If you are starting out in music production, just buy a base M4 model. They are more powerful than the most maxed out Mac Pro's only 8 years ago!! The base model M4 Mac mini is totally enough for almost everyone for pro music production. I have made many albums on a 2020 M1 Macbook Air. I don't use many sound libraries, mostly audio, but some of the albums are 30 tracks of simultaneous audio with loads of plugins. Only a few times has the computer complained. Being an Air its 100% quite, so i can record with it in the room with the quietest of situations. The M4 base models are 30% ish' more powerful than the M1 MAX Macs!!!! 256GB internal hard drive is a bit small, and i do have a 1TB internal drive in the Air, but its no problem managing space, when you finish an album just store it on 2 external drives.

[@WPFRSounds]

Coming from an Intel M4 base looks nice . New channel could be cool if it’s not music related tech but music related tech i enjoy seeing on this channel. I’d imagine most of us enjoy tech✌🏼

[@LDreTheGiant]

I’ve been thinking about doing some more tech stuff outside music too that’s why I’m twisted on this

[@thomasfokas]

I’m still waiting for someone to make a video of the entry-level M4 Mac mini versus the 12 and 14 core Pro version.

[@RetroSoulProductions]

Contemplating on buying a M4 Max MacBook Pro or waiting for the M4 Max Mac Studio. I’m running FL Studio (and Logic Pro from time to time) and other software like Blender, Unreal Engine, DaVinci Resolve (and Final Cut Pro from time to time) and much more.

[@BealBeats]

2017 MacBook Pro intel user here. Still runs great but uhhhhh….yeah, I’m looking forward do upgrading to the M3 air 😂

[@austin2594]

get a m1 pro with extra ram, same price for more

[@LDreTheGiant]

I second this

[@RP3Reviews]

Great video. I would recommend getting rid of those San Disk SSDs and get yourself an NVME enclosure for the same price you are paying for those drives and get the same, if not faster, speeds of your internal storage. I would recommend OWC Express or Sabrent. and add the NVME drive of your choice. I guarantee it will change your workflow life forever!

[@Peytonwatson14]

Yeah I’ve heard those San Disk drives die out fast or are always faulty from the manufacturer

[@LDreTheGiant]

It’s funny because I’ve also heard that but I’ve been buying these exact drives for yeeeaarrs and haven’t had any issues. I have like 4 of them

[@Peytonwatson14]

@@LDreTheGiant Aye if it’s not broke don’t fix it. Appreciate the video

[@nukenoly8751]

2013 Mac Pro 8 core still runs my studio so this M4 Mac mini is more than enough for music production 😅

[@michelrodneymintsa2838]

This is clearly the video i’ve been looking for 3 days . Thank you , man

[@LDreTheGiant]

Glad I could help!

[@wilcandou]

I’ll be waiting for the twelve core 2 efficiency and 10 performance cores. ATM they’re running out the old 10 core chips. However you can get the 12 core in the Pro series for around $800-ish

[@Tolbiny]

About time Apple made base models with 16gb ram. Thanks for the review.

[@djcontour]

In all seriousness, this thing should have no issues running Ableton. The fact that I can do that at 128 samples is nuts. Unless tracking vocals, I always produce at 1024 samples. Rarely 512. So at that sample rate, it should have no issues. I used to produce Edm on my 2015 mbp and that thing didn’t even stutter with 40 plus tracks loaded with kontakts and stuff. I don’t need it and I’m considering getting one of these haha

[@LDreTheGiant]

That’s what I’m saying. Testing on 32/64 samples is extreme for producing

[@djcontour]

@ I’m over here getting ready to wipe my pc and do a fresh install of windows and I’m like…should I just buy this instead?! 😂

[@ELLIOT8209]

What bass did you use? It's Hella

[@LDreTheGiant]

Kee bass its free!

[@WillThePoet21]

I have a MacBook Pro (M1 Pro Chip) I’ve been lowkey thinking about getting this, and sell my MacBook.

[@LDreTheGiant]

If you do I’d try to swing for the M4 Pro version to balance it out

[@WillThePoet21]

@@LDreTheGiant true, i forgot they had a M4Pro chip. I’ll definitely look into it more. Good video by the way, i use Ozone as well. Appreciate the recommendation bro. 🙏🏾

[@chwilla]

Nice review bro, next compare m4 vs m4 pro in the Mac mini , worth to upgrade on the pro chip ? I’m using Logic Pro and Arturia and Native Instruments plug ins with an M1 Pro MacBook Pro

[@LDreTheGiant]

Honestly if your M1 Pro is still going strong there’s no need to upgrade. But based on my comparison of the M1 Max Vs The M4 max if you were to upgrade to M4 Pro your looking at at least double the speed

[@stannylou1636]

Do you still have your Ableton Push and if so do you still use it?

[@LDreTheGiant]

I do! Ive just been taking a break from it using the Ableton Move instead

[@Noiretranquility]

Did he said he paid 6k for a Mac? Twice? 😂😂wow just wow

[@Marcustrh]

bro you gotta give us a breakdown down of Crossroads. Also i greatly appriciate these tech focused videos. Dare i say the MKBHD of Music Production tech 😁

[@LDreTheGiant]

Would love that title 😭

[@KidChallange]

What music distribution would you recommend?

[@ThongNguyen-so5ut]

What midi drumpads are you using right there? Looks cleannnnn

[@LDreTheGiant]

Ableton Move

[@IcemanTheDj]

I use for a while now, the 256GB storage version with 1TB external and the internal has 190GB free while the external has 428GB free... I upgraded from M1 Macbook Air base model to M4 Mac mini base version. No offence but what you guys put on 4TB? Just curious! 🤷🏻‍♂

[@whosrage9424]

Orchestral Libraries for me. I have a TB worth plus all my other stuff like IK live Max, Omnisphere, Arturia Belladonne, Native Instruments Komplete and anything else i’ve forgotten abt. It’s easy to eat up storage with this stuff quick.

[@LDreTheGiant]

I have way too many plugins/samples + like every beat/Ableton project I’ve made since 2018. That’s just on the production side. I also edit a lot of videos. In general tho I just only use external drives for offloading stuff and backups

[@IcemanTheDj]

Aha, I get it! I do this from 1998 and I teached myself to keep it clean, back then 80GB storage was lux! 😂 And also I don't use orchestral libraries, that's right! Whell goodluck with your projects guys! ✌

[@morenaso1]

Can this support plugins, vocals and mastering? The specs are amazing except for the hard drive size

[@chumza7498]

Yeh please bro you can do a video producing a full track on the mac mini mixing mastaring that is enough evidence and how many plug ins you need to write lo fi that's an awsome content it woul be also nice to writ a song then release the same day challenge

[@LDreTheGiant]

That’s a great idea I’ll have to try that!

[@bboymac84]

Yea that’s big bargain especially if you’re using external storage 💪🏽

[@LDreTheGiant]

100%

[@MVS_DJGillyGill]

Have tech on your main channel it still works !

[@mrniice]

Would you recommend this to someone who doesn’t all basically make beats record and mix?

[@HotepOurobo]

yes. next video.

[@LawrenceTV-s4p]

Whats hapnin bro. I just found your page and subbed today. I wanted to ask you what's a good device to start making beats for beginners? I heard a macbook but i can tell you know your shyt

[@gamingmonkey3619]

Would u happen to know how much stronger itd run FL if i upgrade to the m4 max? I got no clue if the 800$ upgrade is worth the performance boost in DAWs

[@KAMDOLLARSIGN]

8:00 im still on 2011 Mac 😂

[@0791679]

Keep it on one channel bro

[@1koolkat1]

Thanks for info. Any comment to ableton writing a more accurate LIVE version that optimizes the Apple M chips? I bet there’s resolution in the code for cpu utilization 😮

[@anilyazar_]

Where can i get logic pro with crack?

[@ezradegafe6782]

might have to switch to the mac mini

[@jdarg4163]

And right now logic pro for ipad is sick

[@deepzone31]

I agree but until they move to a one time purchase I will never play in that sandbox. SAS is an evil model.

[@BaergaJC]

Keep one channel for all.

[@JDiggiti]

On the Mac mini m4 .. The 256gb drive is slower than the 512gb drive

[@LDreTheGiant]

Hmmmm didn’t know that

[@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69]

only issue is that damn storage lol I dont like running things off external hard drives because of speeds.

[@Wes-y4b]

Just do a separate playlist for all tech related info.

[@jannybravo8429]

I rather get this than a macbook air

[@ORIGINAL_MEDIA]

🎉

[@rebaphMusic]

SSD SanDisk is 1TB?

[@LDreTheGiant]

They have that but mine is 4tb

[@jasperruddock5155]

Hello what audio interface are you uding

[@LDreTheGiant]

In this vid I’m using the T-X6 by teenage engineering

[@60secmusic96]

what about big projects with many samples? it only has 16 gigs...

[@Arsonloke]

Too bad you can't store plugins on on external ssd with Logic Pro

[@LDreTheGiant]

I wouldn’t even want to lol

[@Arsonloke]

@@LDreTheGiant i have a 13 in m1 mackbook pro with 16gb of ram and a 256gb ssd. I got it dirt cheap lol. I'm going to unsolder the 256gb ssd and resolder a 2tb ssd in it.

[@segundacuenta726]

how about installing mac os on the external thunderbolt drive and booting from that? I read it is possible, never tried it.

[@singh94021]

I got baited by the FL Studio logo....didnt even test FL....Disappointed

[@jamiegoodman9031]

keep the same channel

[@Incaensio]

Do not make a separate Channel

[@jdarg4163]

Nope not for me i would need the M4 Pro as i have the Intel 6 core i7 Mac Mini from 2018 and all of my cores are performance cores and the new M4 Mac Mini only has 4 performance cores and 6 efficiency cores amd logic doesn't read the efficiency cores as its based on performance cores so i am getting ths M4 Pro 14 core version if this Mac Mini

[@dplj4428]

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[@Yod.Vav.]

IGNANT

[@johngotti9268]

Build A PC

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

it sucks. My keyboard unresponsive. Type few words and it thinks. I called apple support they said they dont support non apple keyboard and mouse.. Most youtube viewers are LIARS

[@robsmith5434]

What keyboard are you using? I was using a cheap Jelly Comb keyboard and it sucked with my Mac Mini. I bought a nicer Logitech keyboard and it’s amazing. I would blame your keyboard before I blamed you Mac.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

@@robsmith5434 i use k350 logitec keyboard. its wireless and the mouse is wired usb

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

@@robsmith5434 called apple support they are literally terrible. They are paying too much money for that tech support people who do not even care for non apple devices