Is the Adjudicator good or bad? Helldivers 2

[@yumyumtree88]

Adjudicator been my go to since the first major buff

[@coffeebeenzz]

4:52 is a good example of missing out on two very nice features of this weapon: fast firing medium pen. Striders can be taken down with a few shots into the chin plate, and one full mag can take down automaton gunships. Crouch and hip fire at the same thruster with a small amount of downward diagonal recoil management and shot leading for the gunship's strafing and you reliably take them down. I love the crossbow but it's struggle Vs gunships is my breakpoint for the two weapons

[@coffeebeenzz]

I understand that the crossbow can take down gunships too, but one single mag of the adjudicator is a very reliable way with less practice needed

[@saintwaffles]

Very interesting good to know, I'll give that a whirl!

[@coffeebeenzz]

The rifle can also shoot off the factory strider chin miniguns

[@captainsolidusjj9479]

In this Situation aim 4 the part were the legs connenct 5-10 shots its gone jeah Crossbow will take it easyier down. But try it

[@zanaduz2018]

The main trick to getting the best use out of this gun in my experience is slowing down slightly (and leave it on semiauto). On semi-, the Adjudicator has effectively no recoil, and can fire as fast as you can humanly click, and the recoil is basically fully reset between shots.

[@kaisermaximal8123]

For me, i think it's a serviceable alternative to the liberator penetrator. One does damage with less control while the other does less damage but better control. While i still prefer the libpen in most scenarios, i can easily see why someone who values damage and armor penetration above all else could be a fan of this gun, especially if that person's favorite armor is already one that reduces recoil

[@jairesemccoy9779]

They do the same damage per mag.

[@SN00PY42]

Hey I enjoyed your take on the Adjudicator! I think your right that allot of folks are sleeping on it and I thought I'd share my perspective on it since I use it almost exclusively! I haven't stopped using the Adjudicator since I discovered it last year. At the time I was looking for a medium armor penetrating weapon that could deal with everything besides heavies and I found just what I needed in the Adjudicator. I personally think it is one of the best guns in the game, but not many people know just how effective it is with defeating armored enemies (bots, bugs or squids). I've also gone to great lengths to accommodate using it and even adjusted my playstyle around it which garnered great results! Just to give an idea of what I mean, my loadout for Bots is almost always Adjudicator, Grenade Pistol and Stun Grenades while wearing medium medical armor for the 6th stim and the balance of armor and movement. My strategem choices are typically objective destroying orbitals or eagles with the rocket sentry and recoilless rifle to help deal with gunships and heavy targets. My kit is designed around 4 roles that I find important for almost all missions: 1. Defeating Medium armored enemies (Adjudicator, Grenade Pistol) 2. Horde Control (Adjudicator, Grenade Pistol, Strategems, Stun Grenades) 3. Destroying Objectives and closing bug holes, fabricators or UFOs (Grenade Pistol, Strategems) 4. Destroying Heavies (Strategems) As far as using the Adjudicator, I find myself crouching and going prone almost all the time while firing to compensate for the recoil. When maneuvering this way against bots it has the added benefit of dodging incoming fire while making your shots more accurate. Although there isn't a burst fire mode, I've found firing in bursts is the way to go for hitting enemies at range. Aiming for the chest or head is very effective against all bot infantry as it still penetrates their armor and the Adjudicator can even shoot out the legs of small striders! When firing in full auto while scoped I tend to drag my aim down to compensate for the kick and it is incredibly effective although challenging to get used to. Adopting a balanced playstyle of assault and retreat while relying on the kit I mentioned above has been super helpful with getting the full potential out of the Adjudicator. If you get the chance definitely give the Adjudicator another try! I've found it so effective and would love to see more Helldivers using it in the field 😊

[@D3humaniz3d]

I actually struggle myself to justify using anything else over the crossbow... Because it's just so much better than anything else. You can also pair it with the ballistic shield, making it even more powerful. My comfort setup for bots is heavy armor, ballistic shield and either quasar or laser canon. I personally think they should just buff every primary and secondary across the board, because all other weapons have downright terrible downsides compared to the crossbow. The same story with the secondaries. There was little reason to go with anything but the grenade pistol, until they gave the senator heavy armor pen, giving it much needed utility it previously didn't have. My point being... The crossbow has so much utility, while still having drawbacks. It has explosive, aoe, is one handed, so you can carry items / shield equipped. It also has downsides. Projectile is slow, cant use it cqc or you'll get ragdolled / take damage, long range aiming is difficult, not the greatest rate of fire. Let's compare this with the adjudicator, which I used even before the buff. Relatively small mag size, inaccurate when moving about, medium armor pen only, lot's of recoil. What are the positives of using this weapon, lets say over libpen? There are none. It neither deals that much damage, nor does it have the accuracy of the libpen, nor does it have the mag capacity of the libpen. Meanwhile, both rifles pale in comparison to the crossbow due to lack of utility.

[@zanaduz2018]

The Adjudicator is a space M14, and should be used in that sort of use-style for best results. You want to stand off slightly and use it in semiauto - the recoil is basically non-existant when tap-firing, and you can still shoot it as fast as you can click and it's very accurate.

[@SpecterNeverSpectator]

my justification is they look way cooler, that's the main reason I use the abjudicator, no more bullpup, looks cool, just wish I could change the color

[@SpecterNeverSpectator]

@@zanaduz2018 I always crouch when shooting, before even using this gun, so the recoil isn't that much of a problem for me, plus I naturally began tap firing which is kinda cool to think it's a proper way to use it

[@aethelwyna8618]

Usually I'm in favour of buffs over nerfs, but at a certain point it's also fair to ask yourself.. Should arrowhead buff 40 weapons or nerf the crossbow? Comparing a solid mid-tier weapon to the clearly overpowered one isn't a solid argument to claim that it's bad imho. The adjudicator plays almost like a full auto diligence CS. It's not the best, but it's certainly very decent. If anything my only issue with it is, like you said, the small mag makes it feel like you are constantly reloading. It would be nice if, in the far future, we get weapon customisation with extended magazines or something.

[@saintwaffles]

I agree, the crossbow will need some nerfs. There's no way to bring every weapon up to it's level. As much as I hate to say it but simply removing the ability to close holes/factories would be a huge one. Or a slower firing speed

[@musicarain4702]

@@saintwaffles they should lower the mag size to 3 bolts instead of 5

[@Carnagefiend]

As another comment pointed out, the Adjudicator can knock down gunships. I discovered that it could do it in a moment of desperation on a solo mission. Once I discovered that the weapon jumped up a few notches. The trouble is that I only ever typically bring it to Bot fights, and I've almost never used it on bug missions. What I like about the weapon is that it has great stopping power, but I always use it in semi-auto. Semi-auto lets me hit some pretty solid long range shots, but if I get assaulted in melee I can rapid tap the weapon. I disagree about the magazine size, personally, and consider the Reprimand and Tenderizer as defacto ammo hogs. But the mag is large enough that I can put pressure on Bots which respond to being shot at. Since it hits so hard missing headshots is less punishing. I usually pair the weapon with a Recoilless/Commando/Quasar to take out the heaviest enemies and let the Adjudicator do what it does best: Flexibility. In short, I vouch for it because it has great stopping power on a wide array of Bot enemies in an equally wide array of scenarios against bots. I can't really vouch for bugs or squids.

[@golevka]

It's good yet outclassed by Counter Sniper and Tenderizer for different purposes Counter sniper for devastators or... everything Tenderizer for crowd clear and... devastators, still

[@saintwaffles]

And all are outclassed by the cross bow

[@arealroknrolla]

I think people misunderstand The Recoil reduction armor. going prone makes you more accurate just by virtue of being more stable, just like in real life, so The Recoil Reduction armor just makes that better. You can run whatever armor you want. You just have to go prone to shoot the gun accurately

[@kirilsden6743]

You can also quickly figure out within the first shot where it wants to drag and compensate while standing do you can get 90 percent of a mag where you want without the armor

[@silviaconvertible]

This. I ALWAYS crouch when able at a minimum. But that was something I trained myself to do when I was maining HMG when it first dropped

[@zanaduz2018]

I usually pop into crouched when I intend to shoot; standing is for movement, crouched/prone are for shooting. Prone is preferred while sniping, but if I’m not in that scenario and might need to keep moving soon, I’ll just stick with crouched.

[@raiva1963]

Always go full auto, and I tap when I need to be accurate. Never switched it to Semi. If I wanted that I'd go with the DCS.

[@Cloudstrife112233]

I found that it pairs really well with the Stalwart and the Grenade pistol when running with a team. You can really be the perfect suppressing fire teammate.

[@turbosnail413]

I play mostly a team support role, focusing on medium sized enemies that are targeting my main gunner or explosive expert. I like to use the Adjudicator or Diligence counter sniper depending on difficulty and what I expect from the enemy. For bots it's diligence cs for devastators w AMR for hulks, for bugs I use adjudicator for anything smaller than a charger w some explosive or railgun if I'm expecting lots of titans. I think the Adjudicator has its place and honestly I don't even need an armor passive to handle the kick, i just fire in small bursts.

[@blindlark6468]

I feel like the assault rifles get a bad rap in general just because they don't have the pure damage output as other more specialized weapons but in my mind their versatility makes up for it in a lot of situations

[@silviaconvertible]

I've been using the adjudicator since before the nerf patches. I try other guns and all I can think of is how I prefer the feel and power throughput of the adjudicator. I use it on all three fronts successfully on super helldives. I also just use whatever armor I feel like based on drip, not on how it makes the adjudicator function. I typically tend to favor Medium Pen weapons (I was a Lib Pen main for the longest time back in Mar/April). I can understand why people like the crossbow as the explosive nature of it allows players to sidestep armor ratings and gives it utility for environmental obstacles.

[@samwild6630]

It's definitely in a funny spot. I find it quite useful against high level bugs as it deals with Defenders, Commanders and Spewers pretty quickly. It is also competing with the Reprimand, which I think is a bit better as it has much higher damage and the recoil is manageable in first person. While it probably needs it, a nerf to the crossbow would be taken by the community poorly. The Eruptor needs work still as it still very poor and improving other underperforming weapons like the Slugga is a bit more important. As this is not a competitive PvP game, having a few items being aa step or two above the others is OK. It's easy to see this with the secondaries - the grenade pistol is probably tied top place with the senator (utility vs raw power), but the rest are more or less fine and I wouldn't turn up my nose to any of them.

[@silviaconvertible]

We were doing the dark fluid missions on Meridia and my squad thought it'd be fun to run all breaker incendiaries. We ended up with a spawn heavy consteallation of Hive Guards. I never missed my adjudicator more than on that mission

[@PestisRex]

Ty for vid, was thinking about this gun alot lately.

[@zanaduz2018]

@Saint Waffles I find this gun works best in semiauto instead of full-auto, as the recoil is negligible in semi, and it will also fire as fast as you can click. My clue for using it like this was that this basically a space M14 EBR, and in basically every other game with the M14, it's a battle rifle that you want to keep on semiauto despite having the option for full-auto... Also, keep the sight on 50 or 100 setting, and just descope if you need to aim for CQC, it helps a lot with managing the gun. Adjudicator has good damage (90 damage is enough to one-tap trash like Scavengers or Raiders), virtually no recoil on semi, and medium pen 3 which allows you to reliably kill Devastators, Hive Guards and Striders without much difficulty. The full-auto trigger group is secretly a trap with this gun.

[@saintwaffles]

It's funny because the comment that came right before this said never use semi auto always go full auto lol

[@zanaduz2018]

@ the Adjudicator is a versatility pick; more specialized guns may out-do it in particular categories but this can successfully bridge the gap on quite a few niches. Want a high-damage primary with controllable recoil on auto? Use the Tenderizer, but you sacrifice AP3 and the scope for it. Want a high-accuracy, higher-damage weapon that can one-tap more often? Bring the Diligence CS, but you lose a lot of capacity and automatic firepower. Want a full-auto, controllable, AP3 gun? Bring the Lib Pen, but you suffer from mediocre damage. Adjudicator blends a lot of the traits from these guns and lets you largely pick which you want to use by swapping trigger group and zoom level on the fly. My personal preferences lean towards sniper, so I generally only stick to semiautomatic and tap-fire quickly if I need more lead downrange.

[@thefluffyunicorn2003]

I like it a lot I personally used a ton. But when they released the reprimand I just found it to feel a lot better than the adjudicator

[@GusCraft460]

It’s a powerful weapon, but the massive recoil and small magazine make it hard for me to enjoy using it. I’ll just take liberator penetrator or the tenderizer depending of the level of armor I’m expecting to go up against. If anyone likes it and wants to run it, go right ahead. It’s just not my cup of tea.

[@LockyDragon]

I love using it when the conditions are right and in my favor, it's really fun! but the issue is that it simply is too niche for use on every mission, it does great damage has a decent rof and kills tons of things super fast but it just, doesn't match up to the liberator penetrator due to the recoil and magazine size

[@D-Boy22]

7:35 you're asking a nerf to the Helldivers community, a dangerous thing you wish for

[@Sykari-ms8ow]

i think its an ok weapon, i use it. good for close and mid range, definitely have to tap fire it at long range. its medium pen so you cant take down hive guards, scout striders and devastators easy.

[@saintwaffles]

Ok is a good place for it. Not the best, certainly not the worst

[@AndromedaGaming2248]

I just wish helldivers had the ability to customize/add attachments to their guns

[@baron1324]

soon.

[@mosseon3456]

take away one handed from crossbow, other than that i think it's fine, the biggest issue is specialty weapons have the same ammo economy as normal weapons. eruptor could use heavy armor piercing/ap4 people bringing the oddball weapons that explode stun or flinch enemies should just be running out of ammo left and right during hard fights, exceptions being weapons that just fire so slowly they leave you vulnerable like the zap shotgun.

[@KryptoKn8]

When i first used it, it was absolutely god awful. Was useless against both bots and bugs. Now its pretty alright, still prefer the CS and blitzer

[@swamp-puppy14]

People saying “what’s the point in using anything else other than *insert SS tier weapon here*” make me face palm. Using the same weapon all the time is boring. Mixing and matching builds and trying new things is way more fun. Plenty of other things are still perfectly viable even if they’re not the most “efficient”.

[@celestial002]

Anyone else sorta wish they'd nerf the crossbow into the ground? Feels like there's no reason to take something else when you could have the best weapon in the game in every area (except like ammo capacity ig).

[@saintwaffles]

That's where I am. It's so hard to choose any other weapon when the crossbow can do everything amazing

[@valerio0091]

Im using more and more often this gun on the bugs front, it has lots of potential if known. Ill leave my tips (playing on diff 9/10) You can 1/2 tap small units and 2/3 tap hunters, so if an hunter swarm approches chose wisely were to shoot. You can take down brood commander with a little more than half a mag by making them bleed out, a full mag will 100% put the thing down for good. Use the mag dump as a panik button, it works fine. You can deal w stalkers no problemo, aim n shoot, youll be surprised of how fast they run away or die. You can run n gun but probably is better to be stationary, i personally use light armor bc it allows me to move away for the enemy then lock in stationary position for a bit and is very good in doung that. Overall the ammo economy is really good, real problem is the mag size. I ve not already used the adjudicator in the bot side so idk what is like against them. One last thing, in the video youre not wrong and i agree w lots of what youre saying but, as someone already said, is not really a fair point comparing this gun (or any) to the current meta in the game, ofc is not at the same level. The gun is probably mid tier bit can be pretty fun, and we divers know fun is meta. PS Sorry if my english Is no Bueno, is not my main lenguage + i have the autocorrector on my phone set up in italian, so It correts the sentece in and other lenguage ;(

[@saintwaffles]

I appreciate the comment, and you are right if I compared it to other guns rather than crossbow it might do better

[@ThePartisan13]

Adjudicator isnt bad at all, just a bit of recoil and less rounds in the mag that Id like. But its one of my bot go to weapons.

[@BetarayBillLover]

Kinda sounds like you’re mic in your helldiver helmet

[@saintwaffles]

I have since changed mics. Hopefully next video is more clear!

[@BetarayBillLover]

@ haha that’s too bad I really didn’t mind it felt immersive, I guess clearer is probably better for viewership tho

[@knight_lautrec_of_carim]

There is no 0ing, it's just zoom level.

[@StjepanKralj]

I think that overall the ARs in this game are really underperforming. There should be at least one AR with lvl4 pen

[@sgtmoose1942]

I don't understand people that love the crossbow. It's really not that good. It also shouldn't be one handed. It's a crossbow, they're not exactly small and light weapons.

[@saintwaffles]

It closes all fabs/bug holes freeing up secondary and grenade. It 1 or 2 shots everything smaller than a charger, it has aoe to clear out packs of enemies, it's 1 hand and it does quick enough you can clear out large nests in seconds from a range. It has zero downsides except it can hurt you but once you learn it, there actually a boon

[@captainsolidusjj9479]

4 me its my go to weapon against every enemy. Its take just skill in my opinion. But i understand the other site. Sorry for my bad english. I loved this gun since its release. I got used to that recoil (Controller player) and i think i masterd this gun. It cant take out bug holes yes, it cant take out fabricaters yes. But it can deal with every other enemy when used right. And i never used a armor to buff the gun.

[@snipeyounoobzyee2662]

It’s good but not against bots

[@johnnycatR58]

I do not like the Adjudicator. too much recoil for not enough damage. I would rather use DCS.

[@DeityProd]

It's good.

[@Ilfrinco]

She kick