Is the Attack on Fatima a Shia Propaganda?

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[@didasinan9669]

Sunni dont MANTION Ali or Fatima so much. Most of time their hutbas are about companions. Infact. Fatima was most beloved to prohet . But they keep pushing Aisha instead and all others above Fatima. You can tell they hiding something

[@hdakahidef]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sITEZZ6BrNSSmdU I literally just finished watching this. Omar Suleiman Ali and Fatima AS beautiful video made by a Sunni and plenty more

[@j_gh812]

Becouse u shias are bŕain washed to believe lies from your sheikh that y u utter such lies and hatrade...we sunnis have more hadiths from saidna Alii than shias...we have more hadith from mama fatwima than shias....what do u say about this????

[@Kks15888]

Which book.... Tell book name....

[@fish-nature-lover]

Im sunni but I believe and realized through books and sufi order, that no doubt of that true history. Not only this, first three caliph lead the islam into caos and catastrophic end of karbala.

[@8heavyhchamp8]

You're very correct that's why GOD chooses not us...I used to be sunni but all this allegation led to some thinking

[@aliewareei7687]

Anas M didnt someone learn u to have respect whats wrong with Shias

[@aliewareei7687]

3 caliphs is what we are today sects

[@jayd1877]

my father was sunni and my mother shia so i didn’t have a bias against any. After knowledge and a lot of reading i concur that the brother in the video speaks the truth.

[@musakaleem7712]

Burn in your rage .. ya Majoos

[@thundafundamentalist]

The story of the assault on Fatima (RA), the burning of her house, and the murder of her fetus is not supported by a prophetic narration or by an authentic historical story. Logic and common sense rejects this story at all costs. Most of the sources Raafidha are mentioned are either absolutely unknown, or contain lots of unauthentic reports. Get used to the fact that a report doesn’t become authentic just because some historian wrote it! Let us assume for the moment that Abu Bakr and Omar bin Al-khattab really committed that heinous crime. But what about Ali bin Abi Talib? How could Ali stay quiet while his wife is beaten, his house is assaulted, and his son is killed? Is this the portrait of Ali bin Abi Talib that the Shia are trying to paint? The least man in faith, chivalry, and manhood will not allow his wife to be beaten. Then how come when the woman is the daughter of the Prophet peace be upon him and the man is the mighty Ali bin Abi Talib? This is the result of the fabrication in history that became one of the tenets of faith for the Shia. Ayatollah Al-Sayyed Hussain FadlAllah, the grand Shia scholar in Lebanon, stated clearly that he does not approve this accident to be true, he heavely doubts the assault on Fatima. Hence, lots of Shia scholars waged a war on him. They charged him with “Wahhabisim”. One of the grand Shia scholars in Iran Al-Tabrizi had issued a verdict excommunicating FadlAllah from Shiasim because FadlAllah had doubted (till his very death) one of the major religious beliefs of the Shia. FadlAllah’s doubts had come after extensive research in the Shia’s version of the story of the assault and he depended much on logic and common sense. So not Only Muslims/Sunnah reject this fairy tale but even logical thinking Shias themselves! if your grand Ayatollah can deny this event and say it did not happen do you think you can convince us to believe in this fairytale? (let alone that hussein aal kashif al-ghita and also Ayatollah almaiad from iraq and from the classical ones sheikh mufeed didn’t mention this incident in any of his authentic books. kashif al-ghita said that for him this incident is highly implausible as he said: ولكن قضية الزهراء ، ولطم خدها مما لا يكاد يقبله وجداني ، ويتقبله عقلي ، ويقنع به مشاعري ، لا لأن القوم يتحرجون ويتورعون من هذه الجرأة العظيمة ، بل لأن السجايا العربية ، والتقاليد الجاهلية book jannat al-mawa page 81)

[@theonethatgotaway9210]

Salam all I've walked a long journey in search of the truth reverted from Christianity to a Muslim that's obviously sunni Islam until I could not be provided with some answers to my questions, in searching the truth I find out that the sunnies know the truth is with the Ahlylbat but they can't admit it.... See people don't be feed with information without thinking.... If anyone tells you that you can't discuss the sahaba tell them that Allah has asked us to reflect on those who come before us... If I were to say that even the prophet himself who I believe in is totally a different from whom the members of other schools believe in, you will stone me you people... Huh read people and you will find the truth... The truth is with Ali and the members of the Ahlylbat and the imaams of the the Ahlylbat.....

[@theonethatgotaway9210]

@@Surgery4U I'm a Kenyan 🇰🇪

[@j_gh812]

Who said we cannot discuss the sahabas???yet again shia lies and missconception.....w y do we have history written then if we cannot discuss about it????if u are truthfull..ask me here any question u have and let everyone see the unswère..stop deceptions and ĺies u shias...

[@j_gh812]

@@theonethatgotaway9210 yes....whàts about that hadith???

[@j_gh812]

@@theonethatgotaway9210 ive unswered u..im waiting..or we do it tommorow as its late night now???

[@shiaislam9667]

@@j_gh812 you really need help you dont know how to debate Even saying Shia doing taqiyah bla bla bla are you normal or not please tell me that first ?😂

[@SamStark66]

He didn’t provide the reference. What kind of scholar doesn’t provide authentic references?

[@armehere]

Type Hassan allahyari in KZbin, he has name the sunni book ect ect. Or shaike yassen al habib

[@alianwar860]

There is another video on the same topic with references. The link has been shared in the comments above

[@amanmujeeb131]

Some.fake book reference he has given which is never used in sunni relm

[@IbrahimovichZlatan]

I recommend you to read "Ask those who know", you can find the pdf online by just googling the name. Salam

[@musakaleem7712]

If a man’s home is attacked and the door burnt down and his pregnant wife beaten .. and that dayooth does nothing and says he is making Sabr .. then i spit on the face of such Dog who could not defend his wife .. our Ali r.a is a great man from whon we can never expect such a thing , this Ali must be some persian eunuch

[@shiakaafirshiakaafir8299]

The book Al Imaama Wa Siyaasa is NOT a Sunni book. This guy is just ascribing bull crap to Sunnis

[@II-we2yp]

sunnijahannami. Imama wal Siyaasa is written by SUNNI

[@rihanali9214]

Bcs you are fucking silly and stupid

[@whysoserious1054]

Come on guys even a little knowledgeable Sunni can get their nose into dust. I usually have debate with my friend whenever she loses and I ask for reference she says I don't know.

[@amanmujeeb131]

Where in sunni books can u name only one which should be acc to sahih 😊😊😊

[@ashvazdanghe]

The death & Burial of Lady Fatima (sa) (from Sunni narrations) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKW2ZX54atKMY6M

[@ashvazdanghe]

kzbin.info/aero/PLDt1Kldmx43BvsGJ5XatnuuCLPW3tefyi

[@8heavyhchamp8]

Google that

[@amanmujeeb131]

@@ashvazdanghe don't give me any shia video explanation, give me authentic book of hadees

[@shiaislam9667]

@@amanmujeeb131 tell me we what proof do you want?

[@didasinan9669]

Is not propaganda!!

[@musakaleem7712]

If a man’s home is attacked and the door burnt down and his pregnant wife beaten .. and that dayooth does nothing and says he is making Sabr .. then i spit on the face of such Dog who could not defend his wife .. our Ali r.a is a great man from whon we can never expect such a thing , this Ali must be some persian eunuch

[@exoticyouth007]

Musa Kaleem chutye

[@sadiqal-kaisy5497]

Musa Kaleem Just exactly how Uthman defended his wife

[@j_gh812]

Mashallah..very well said...shias are denied the brains to think out of the curses they got from ahlubaity due to their hypocricy.....what kind of a man who could let his wife confront some man while he is hidding in a room like a woman???that man is a dayuth.....and what kind of a woman would go out and confront some man while his husband is in the house?????taht woman is a wrath.....no culture in this world would allow what the shia Alii did to his wife let alone our great religion....if Alii could not deffend his own wife...hiw could we trust his to deffend our religion and be our leader????what kind of a leader is he who cannot deffend his own family?????

[@jayd1877]

Janbeck Gulam your saying what kind of woman would confront a man. Don’t you know what aisha did in the battle of the camel when she waged war against imam Ali(as). Have you heard of the town of the barking dogs when aisha passed it on her way to wage war. What kind of woman wages war on the ameer ul mumineen Either aisha was in tge right or imam Ali (as).Do some research brother and don’t let your hatred of shia cloud your judgement.

[@j_gh812]

@@jayd1877 again..a miss conception due to luck of knowladge...mama aysha never waged war against saidna Alii...lets just say she did for the sacke of argument....what is the low of the quraan when u kill an innocent person????well if aisha did wage war...the he and Alii were one team to kill muslims..thats y saidna Alii protected mama aysha in that war and gurderd her never to be harmed safly taking her to madina...so Alii went totaly against the quraan....insted of killing her..he protected her...so we either agree Alii went against the quraan..or he knew mama aysha was not at fault...so which one will u choose???

[@shiakaafirshiakaafir8299]

The mere fact that it's mentioned in a BOOK doesn't mean it's authentic.

[@II-we2yp]

sunnijahannami. Then why did Sunni writers write this?

[@trueman9641]

Sunni references given. Please see the video. Bibi Fatema was oppressed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3Sncqymn7qejpY

[@trueman9641]

@@II-we2yp Sunni references given. Please see the video. Bibi Fatema was oppressed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3Sncqymn7qejpY

[@harissyed3149]

Bro, you’ve smashed it! That’s basically all you need to destroy the rafidha, oily out that something in a book doesn’t make it true!!! A Sunni book?! Lol, you mean some guy wrote it down and now it’s become a fact? These rafidhis...

[@catalinsoare1261]

According to Tabari, based on traditions collected by Sayf ibn Umar, Ibn Saba' was a Yemenite Jew who embraced Islam. During the time of Ali ibn Abi Taleb, he introduced a number of concepts that later were ascribed to Shia Islam. I think that the Shias should worry a lot, given the fact that their own imam used Tabari as a trustworthy source.

[@Saber23]

Catalin Soare LOL 😂 Tabari isn’t a trustworthy source you moron NO Shia scholar in the past or present considered it reliable and Ibn Saba NEVER even existed he is merely fabricated Umayyad propaganda against the Shia but I wouldn’t be surprised that you wouldn’t know that as you support people who literally went to war with the family of The Prophet (S)

[@Saber23]

Catalin Soare the fact that it’s in your own deviant books is proof even YOUR scholars and YOU people believe that Abu Bakr and Umar killed Fatima (AS)

[@dr.medicine9723]

Learn about sayf ibn umar he got payed to fabricate hadith

[@unnaturalphenomenonhappeni6567]

This is a true historical fact, and it's why we need to do diligence so we will not be divided. Fatima r.a; was very angry concerning how the companions of the Holy Prophet treated his family beginning immediately after his soul 💔🙏 left his body and and his funeral rites were being prepared by Imam Ali a.s; and his family! It's true, "Abu Barkah knew who the rightful caliph should be after the prophet Muhammad, however, he was beguiled by the people and caused much harm to the people of the 🏠 and Islam until this very day because of our own ignorance and bigotry against Allah's decree via Gabriel the messenger Angel!"💖🐝💯

[@j_gh812]

In this case saidna Alii is to be blamed..he let this religion be corrupted with no action taken from him..infact he cooperated with the corrupters for 30 years.....what kind of a leader is alii who could not deffent even his own family???how could he be trusted to lead a nation someone who could not even deffend his own wife and family???a husband of the doughter of the prophet could not deffend his wife is not worth to be a leader....no even cultures allow this let alone our great religion......

[@unnaturalphenomenonhappeni6567]

@@j_gh812 Thank you for your reply, however historical facts begs to differ and we should seek out the truth concerning the events of this tragedy! Perhaps, you can purchase the book Peak of Eloquence, Nahjul Balagha. These are sermons Letters and sayings of Imam Ali IBN ABI TALIB a.s;

[@j_gh812]

@@unnaturalphenomenonhappeni6567 y do u pick and choose in nahjul balagha????please..i urge u to read alkafi and nahjulbalagha about this issue in details..they all denied this incidence..they openly said its fabricated...let me try get copy of them n send u......but even an open mind can solve this....how could a man let his wife confront man n be beaten while he is hiding???and the same man u expect to be a leader of a nation????a man who could not protect his own wife..can protect the people he leads????this incident never took place my brother..its a fabrication..the problem with shias..are lazy to study..they rather listen the lies of their ayatolas...

[@155stw]

Some sunnis I've talked to acknowledge the event at the door. But they dispute the burning of the door and the miscarriage of Muhsin. I.e there was hostility at the door. But the burning of the door it depends, which books you go to.Not going to debate such a huge topic here. But it just goes to show that the myth that 1) All sahaba agreed about the appointment. FALSE. 2) Fatima also agree to the appointment. FALSE. 3) No hostility took place FALSE. The problem is some Shias resort to Kitab Sulaym which is DUBIOS and some shia scholars have disputed the veracity of this book. There are proofs elsewhere. How is Imam Ali (AS) to be blamed? Barely anyone supported him. The goal was Islam's survival. He could forego what his position was. The MAJORITY of the sahaba did not support him, and Rasulullah (SAW) told him to be patient. And the exact event which took place shows a different account then what is portrayed by some people here. i.e. Imam Ali (AS) just stood by. Not true. He did take steps, but if he had gone further and blood was shed, it would be to the detriment of the ummah. At the end of the day he is Imam whether people accept it or not, but the most important thing is the ummah and Islam was not compromised.

[@155stw]

@@unnaturalphenomenonhappeni6567 this sunni thinks Nahjul Balagha disputes any hostilities? Is he joking? Has he read ash-Shiqshiqiyah? It's clear that Imam Ali (AS) had a bone to pick with someone.... This is the same type of person who will deny Ghadeer.

[@musmanarshadsair]

Is it mentioned in the Quran?

[@ahmedaqyl1158]

The event took place after the death of the Prophet Muhammad hence the end of revelation

[@musmanarshadsair]

So did the incident of Karbala but I have heard from sources that it is mentioned in Quran... 37:107 And We redeemed him with a great sacrifice.

[@mariagomez-nc9io]

Se le oyó decir al Profeta de Allah(swt) ‘’Amen a mi familia’’ estando él vivo y también se le oyó decir ‘’ el que provoque el enojo de Fátima provoca el enojo de Allah’’ y Muhammad (pbuh) no hablaba por su cuenta cuando relató la surah112 que dice: ‘’.....guíanos por el camino recto y no por el camino de aquellos que provocan tu enojo ‘’ con esto Muhammad (pbuh) trató de advertirles que sus concupicencias estaban descubiertas y que cuando él lloraba por Husain y Hasán , lloraba por toda su bendita familia que sería masacrada sin piedad por aquellos que deberían cuidar de que se cumpliera lo que había dicho cuando se les informó que Ali ( pbuh) sería su sucesor ! Como vemos todo está dentro del noble al Quran , pero no en la forma que quisieramos verlo o encontrarlo El noble Quran es una revelación dada a Muhammad (pbuh) donde se revelan echos verídicos del pasado, del presente , del futuro inmediato y de la vida por venir . Salam aleykum brother ,de algo estoy segura ,Allah swt sabe más y le pido perdón si he ofendido con mis reflexiones , Allahu akbar

[@8heavyhchamp8]

Lmao is the Mahdi mentioned in the Quran

[@anasm4496]

@Rabya Ahmed Dont get me started on you! Shias doing Taqqiyah

[@catalinsoare1261]

Yes, they burned the house only in the Shia weak and wicked traditions/ahadith. Tabari was a historian. He mentioned very clear that he wrote everything he heard, Tabari never bothered to check the sources. You skipped that part from Tabari. Why not mentioning this as well to your audience?! Why don't you tell that the prophet Muhammad himself forbade alms for his household?! Banu Hasim was not allowed to take alms. Moreover the prophets don't leave inheritance. That's what Abu Bakr told Fatima. You twist the truth to suit your own means. Half of the truth counts as a lie!

[@shiaislam9667]

Okay the thing which you disagree with becomes weak traditions lol 😂 stop lying so much fear Allah

[@catalinsoare1261]

@@shiaislam9667 don't fool around. my question is very straightforward. Are Tabari's writings weak or not?

[@Saber23]

Catalin Soare yes ALL Sunni Hadith are weak but we mention the references from your books to show you that even YOUR scholars and people believe that Umar and Abu Bakr oppressed Fatima (AS)

[@shiaislam9667]

@@Saber23 forget them they write something and then run away they dont have any logic or knowledge

[@shiaislam9667]

@@catalinsoare1261 where are you hiding now ? 😂