Is the BMW M140i a good daily driver?

[@BackwardFinesse]

I have owned one of these wonderful cars for just two weeks as a daily driver. It succeeded a 118i Sport, which was surprisingly brisk for a mere 1500 cc but not quite oomphy enough. Mine has just the three extras I consider essential: auto gearbox, adaptive suspension and reversing camera. Mine is a Shadow Edition so already has HK sound, which is a huge improvement on the tinny standard issue. I started driving when cars still had starting handles and trafficators - obsolete devices to which I would now add manual transmission. I test drove cars with and without adaptive suspension and, in deference to the fillings in my teeth, I chose adaptive. The rear camera lets you park closer to other cars without hitting them. As a daily driver the car is amazingly docile - it is not red in tooth and claw at all until you press the loud pedal a bit harder, when it is unleashed. Its staggering acceleration gives you an extra margin of safety when overtaking or joining motorways, for example. Eco Pro mode is suitable for driving on camera-infested motorways but not around town, when its hesitancy is a real menace. The fact that BMW are going to drop the F20 and replace it with 4-pot, transverse-engined MINI on steroids shows that they are no longer interested in producing “the ultimate driving machine”. Cast aside doubts and get one while you still have the chance - “they will not pass this way again”.

[@ra55575]

I would 100% be in a m140 but my insurance where I live is astronomical. As a young male mid twenties working in tech living in a rough part of London I must be flagged as an absolute mug. I'll just stick with the 116i for now :/

[@v1ktos]

Mine is alpine white, carbon fibre trim and manual. I know manual is the drivers way to go but I would go for the auto if I had the chance again.

[@keithjohnston1981]

Great video. I bought mine when I was doing 10 miles a day to and from work. New job means I’m doing 120-180 a day three to four days a week. Had over 40mpg on numerous occasions without driving particularly carefully.

[@STSupercars]

Keith Johnston yeah that’s a big change in commute! Similar thing happened for me went from like 8/9 miles to about 40 a day. That’s why the cars now on 20k. Amazing the economy you can extract out of the engine thoug!

[@MrAyeno3bad]

Keith Johnston what is your real world average mileage range to a tank? I know you don’t buy this for economy but I’m trying to be realistic as I do over 500 miles per week?

[@Mike_On_2_Wheels]

I was worried when I got mine as I’m in constant stop start traffic to work and back (10 mile each way) and I’m returning between 24 and 27 mpg which I’m very happy about, I thought it would be a hell of a lot worse, my mates golf R does less in traffic. Did a journey at the weekend from didsbury to the ribble valley and I averaged 36mpg at 75 to 80. Pro nav was a must for me, I drive 6 is fantastic, adaptive suspension is a must too because our British roads are terrible! Speed limit display also a handy tool for this car.

[@STSupercars]

Yeah you really can't complain at that considering its all stop start! My 335i was horrendous in stop start traffic so it shows how far the engine tech has come on. Yeah I wish I had idrive 6 but to be honest 5 is good enough. Still haven't driven one with adaptive but everyone says its a must - but when ordering no one could give me a solid answer on if it was worth it

[@TheBigNod1]

Had mine for just over 2 weeks now, and my journey to work is pretty heavy traffic. I've been getting between 14 and 20mpg on a typical commute which is actually a little painful!

[@ra55575]

When my starter motor failed in the middle of a 3 lane road i had to pay for recovery, a new starter and labour. Costing several hundreds of pounds. There's no way on earth that stop start has resulted in me saving several hundreds of pounds worth of fuel. Utterly stupid tech I think.

[@benjaminrhodes9582]

Turn it off bro, literally the first thing I do after starting the car!

[@ra55575]

Benjamin Rhodes yeah I deffo do now. Need to find someone to code it so it stays off by default

[@redarmy1778]

rule uno, always switch off, my ritual, get in seat belt ss off

[@ChipZilla69]

Had the m235i for three years and recently traded in for an m240i. As the guy says it could be the last of its kind. Stunning car but i wish stop start was of by default. Who buys a 350 bhp motor for stop start...

[@twiggy27111976]

Fucking annoying isn’t it? I just stick my M140i in sport as a default.

[@davidappleyard9544]

19.5 mpg on mine, not a daily so doesn't really bother me 😂👍

[@simonparkinson2473]

hi ive had mine about 2months now getting about 20,8 mpg but im only around town and the missis only goes up the road and back to work ,full tank will just do 210 miles

[@tsar3376]

And what do you think about suspensions and the noise in cabin?

[@HodgsonBen10]

Had mine a month and my commute to work is 10 miles in stop start traffic and i can't get over 22.5mpg. Am i doing something wrong? I've tried comfort mode and eco and eco only saves me about 0.6 miles every commute.

[@TubeLadin]

Looking forward to getting my Sunset Orange in June!

[@DJ_MartinN]

April for me!

[@TubeLadin]

Very nice, not long to wait! What colour combo have you gone for?

[@DJ_MartinN]

Sunset Orange and Oyster Leather. Also got the jet black alloys on it instead of the grey

[@TubeLadin]

Martin Nicholson Great! Black alloys here as well but went for the Tan interior, full orange!

[@perfolkesson2639]

April for me 2 :)

[@lilwarski0121]

I'm debating between this and a 125d, my daily commute is around 40 ish miles either way. So yes im thinking about economy and of course insurance as I am only 20. What fuel do you use? Currently driving a corsa 1.4 so big upgrade!

[@gaurav23186]

lilwarski0121 I’m literally in the exact same position as you !!!! I really don’t know what to do. I really want that noise on startup loool

[@yennerz00bradderz]

I test drove the M140i and loved the car, pulls like a train. But the fuel economy was a big issue, I went for a 430d which has ample power and 40mpg

[@M8143K]

@@yennerz00bradderz I got 435d for that

[@CarFinanceSimplified]

Bloody hell 32.6 mpg! 14 miles commute each way with around 8 miles on A/B roads gives me around 27 - 28.

[@STSupercars]

I cannot complain one bit!

[@DjNikGnashers]

@@STSupercars 28.3 average in mine, and I drive like miss daisy 90% of the time :-p

[@taitlawrence]

I must have a hole in my tank

[@markyw7954]

Thats what i thought about the stop start too I always turn it off first thing i do.

[@86rodro]

I have a 240i same oppinion in eco-pro and stop-start, Im getting 28 mpg in mixed conditions, although seems that you car does not have the adaptative suspension...it makes some difference in comfort setting for sure.

[@leetracey7160]

How much worse is the Harman Kardon compared with the f30? I love my hK but thinking of switching from my 335xd. I am a massive music lover and the sound is very important

[@supercarshunter2450]

How much range you get out of one full tank? ✌️

[@ChipZilla69]

About 300 miles on a run. Ltd around town.

[@alanbriggs7177]

Very informative video. I think you have convinced me this is not the car for me.

[@Jack-pt2it]

I get 22 mpg in mine. I've never seen better. Roughly 7 mile drive to work, so not really getting warm. Small section of motorway driving. But for the mileage I do, it doesn't bother me at all. I do drive it hard, so probably some driving style differences.

[@sammysmither1986]

I’m looking to buy one mate and also have a commute of around 7 miles to work with a small motorway section. How many miles do you get from a full tank???

[@Jack-pt2it]

@@sammysmither1986 Between 250 - 300 mile depending on how hard I push it? 22mpg is taking it easy on the commute in comfort mode. If I'm driving like miss daisy in eco I could in theory get 30mpg but that's really trying.

[@AndriiPovkh]

What about the noise levels?

[@andrewlee5237]

Thanks for another informative and interesting video. I have finally decided to go for the 140i, with the 5 door, to keep the wife happy. I have a countdown timer on my phone for when the day comes for me to place my order, sad I know, 137 days to go, sound better than 4 1/2 months. Take care.

[@STSupercars]

Andrew Lee I completely agree 137 days sounds much better. Congrats on biting the bullet, you won’t be disappointed.

[@adamday9632]

What does the RWD behave like in the winter conditions?

[@redarmy1778]

fun

[@simonnelson7770]

I completely completely agree with you about stop start!! You need to inject fuel every time, you wear out the starter motor and the oil keeps draining into the sump, completely ruins the car and I've had it coded out. Get a bloody Prius if you are that bothered! And as far as the seats are concerned they are the best and most comfortable seats I've ever sat in.

[@MrDumi1]

mate what u think about 330d coupe e92 ,daily thanks.great review

[@STSupercars]

Dumi Mudi cheers mate! I actually really like e92. My mate runs a 325d (same engine but de-tuned) and he’s had no problems plus with a remap they end up the same as a remapped 330d. Great for daily but expect to see about 35mpg

[@MrDumi1]

ST Supercars Thanks so better buy 325 i guess so whats the different between 325 and 330 ? i think 325 bit cheep to insure !

[@holdtightyou]

Dumi Mudi I've ran my e92 330d for 3 years now. Mapped to 280bhp ish and 600nm. On a long run i can get 45mpg, with a mix and a bit of right foot about 38. Never seen less than 35 over a tanks worth tho

[@paulbeesley4971]

I have an m135i, and I get 25/26 miles per gallon for stop start traffic when going to work - 10 miles to work and 10 back

[@STSupercars]

That's not too bad at all!

[@paulbeesley4971]

ST Supercars unfortunately that’s in eco, can’t stand it, but going into lpool it can be stopping and starting. I do turn off the stop / start, I agree it can be dangerous at certain times.

[@STSupercars]

paul beesley oh really, fair enough. I’ve not actually tried eco on my commute. I also work in Liverpool just well further away so by the time I get there it’s not too bad for traffic

[@markyw7954]

That looks like the M56 sure i saw old man of Frodsham in the background lol ......and the noise off the metal joining strips on the tyres.

[@adamhouckham3341]

I decoded my stop start so much better not having to keep turning it off manually

[@carl9184]

Just under 35mpg over 4k miles for me. There alot of motorway driving in that.👍

[@STSupercars]

Carl Price amazing considering the performance on tap 👌🏻

[@masseyresidence7504]

Excellent. I’m getting average 32mpg in my Polo Gti around town - I get my m140i on lease in 2 weeks... I’ll be happy with 30mpg average, if possible. 👌😊😁😃

[@MrAyeno3bad]

Richard Massey what is your real world average mileage range to a tank? I know you don’t buy this for economy but I’m trying to be realistic as I do over 500 miles per week?

[@MrAyeno3bad]

I do mostly motorway driving so if I averaged 30-35 mpg I would be more than happy

[@MrAyeno3bad]

Richard Massey I also used to own a polo gti would be interesting to know how many miles you get compared to your old polo

[@DJ_MartinN]

When you were talking about the damping being fairly hard, does yours have the active suspension or normal?? Had the M135i with standard suspension, but just ordered an M140i with active. not arrived yet but keen to see what the difference is..

[@STSupercars]

Martin Nicholson mine is on the passive. Apparently adaptive suspension does really help

[@Mike_On_2_Wheels]

I’ve had mine for 4 weeks from new and the adaptive suspension is the best option for me, didn’t have it on my previous 1 series and it’s a massive difference

[@STSupercars]

This pretty much echos what everyone I've spoken to says, although when I was ordering no one had an opinion!

[@Jan-VH]

A manual transmission in that configuration is even more unique, probably the 2019 will only have automatic transmission linked to xdrive

[@STSupercars]

Jan Van Houtte yeah I agree, I managed to drive a manual and the only let down is the box. But for the added engagement it was amazing. I’d have a manual but I also get the merits of the auto having owned it. Agree about the next model sadly

[@NazimUddin-yk2tz]

Alot of wind noise from the 3 door

[@15october91]

Man I would love to get an M135i, but I just can’t afford one.

[@STSupercars]

15october91 it’ll happen, you’ll get one!

[@15october91]

ST Supercars I hope so.

[@johnlambert6331]

All good stuff, mine is coming in May.

[@ChipZilla69]

You will love it i promise you that

[@rupertdeering7176]

Great vid and the mpg you’re getting is v good, and around about what they quote. I’ve had nothing like it since picking my one up last month. Averaged 14.1 in stop/start traffic this week in London, which seems mental low, especially compared to what others are posting here

[@STSupercars]

Rupert Deering oh wow! 14.1 is low. Is it literally stop start the whole way? I think any engine would struggle in that heavy traffic but 14.1 seems really low

[@harrybrookhouse6839]

M240i I get low 20s on a commute into work on a roads but you don’t buy one to look at the fuel economy! Smiles per gallon

[@davereid8585]

If you buy a 3.0 and worry about fuel you've made the wrong purchase

[@williamknifeman7330]

Spot on about the stop/start mate, the function is literally a scam, if engines and components last to long, these companies dont make aftermarket sales.

[@STSupercars]

Kai Bowman yep exactly! Great way of getting people to destroy internal components that they can conveniently pay them to swap

[@williamknifeman7330]

Bad form mate, but business has always been this way. I've had mine disabled the OBD :-).

[@paulwood862]

Won’t keep over 3 years anyway so it’s only Bmw that lose out if components affected.

[@williamknifeman7330]

Paul Wood it’s just not worth it mate, like lease I only 3 years for that reason alone. I pay enough pm, never mind maintenance on top.

[@powellj27]

Great to finally see a video pop up. Pleased to see you are still driving the same car and and enjoying it. I’m still happy with the focus RS. However I do agree start stop is not really good for performance cars. Are you going to pop the performance exhaust on the car going forward?

[@petemayes1940]

Problem ive got my bmw 330d is a very powerful car and I can get 50 mpg all day long on long journeys. and i do a shed load..diesel hate is going to hurt me

[@lmfao8314]

Can honestly say I’d prefer the new Leon cupra 300. Looks more aggressive and only £220 on a pcp over 2 years with 8000miles.

[@baxtamanmr7225]

Looks and price ain’t everything m140i rwd 3.0 6 pot sounds much better too better badge etc

[@patrickjhorton1]

Drove a cupra 300 thought it was ok but just felt flimsy, drove. i30N and hated it. BMW 140i all the way from me.... Safe driving mate

[@cappoMP]

A great video mate, I have the same car and agree with EVERYTHING you have said. Eco Pro should be disabled due to the issues that can create.

[@andrewyoung5126]

I've run an M135i auto for over 2 years now and I don't think I've ever seen over 30mpg. 25mpg is about right for a mix of town and dual carriageway driving. I suspect anything over 30mpg and you're doing a fair bit of motorway driving.

[@JustDriveFlatOut]

I’ve got an M140i too and I think is perfect as a daily, the only “problem” is fuel consumption as you said. Nice video mate ;)

[@STSupercars]

Cheers man!

[@holdtightyou]

When you say ‘small tank’ how many miles are we talking on a full tank hah? Going from a 330d is gonna be a shock to the system lol

[@STSupercars]

Michael White depends how you drive it but around 300 driven sensibly is possible but round town or if you have a heavy right foot expect much less. Tank is only 52L which defo isn’t big enough!

[@holdtightyou]

TBH that's no worse than a Mk5 GTI i had a few years back. Nice one

[@Roginator007]

Nice insight mate 👍🏻

[@Samm69]

i get around 20 to 25 mpg in traffic

[@simonnelson7770]

I have a 240 as a daily driver and I agree with pretty much everything you said, stop start, waste of time, causes unnecessary friction and wear on engine. Eco pro, not appropriate for this type of car, go buy a Prius if you really care that much, to be fair they have to put those options on the cars just to comply so let's not all get het up thinking we are bad people because we don't use them, we bought these cars to enjoy driving them and until it becomes illegal (which it probably will) I'm not apologising for driving everywhere in sport or sport+. The only negative I've found with mine and I'd be interested to know if anyone else has had the same issue, it really holds onto 1st 2nd and a bit 3rd in sports+, so much so that I have to step in and change up manually before it screams out in pain.

[@STSupercars]

Yeah completely agree mate, I didn't buy the car to be an eco warrior and tbh I find in most situations its better being in control of the car manually anyway. Have you got the box pushed over to the sport setting when you refer to sport+. I generally find that even in sport and sport+ with the box in standard more it changes up pretty early considering, unless you floor it and then it will hold on to the gear

[@simonnelson7770]

ST Supercars No even with the box left in normal but the setting in Sport+ it literally screams it's tits off until I have to change up for it, it think it's goes to about 3,000 revs in 1st and second before it changes by it's self

[@STSupercars]

Simon Nelson yeah I think that’s right, 3k for a petrol engine that revs happily to 7k is nothing really. The torque from the b58 does kind of negate the need to hold gears but I wouldn’t expect sport or sport+ to change up earlier than that

[@areyouavinalaff]

sounds like you want it in sport plus and expect it to behave, drive and operate like it's in comfort. can't have it both ways.

[@areyouavinalaff]

you don't have a monaro anymore?

[@csopr]

Brilliant Video mate. Great points covered there. You answered most if not all of my questions. I'm looking at getting one on a PCP deal. got offered nearly 7k for my Msport 120d, so i'm looking around as we speak. Cheers Fella.

[@STSupercars]

Cheers man, I appreciate the feedback! Yeah nice position to be in, make sure you check out TRL/Tony Lewis, always has the best deals on so worth checking, even if it's just to price check

[@MohammedAhmed-wh5dt]

People I know with these cars are getting low 20s you must be driving it real slow

[@akaashjariwala8704]

You listen to Jay Z 💯💯

[@th3b0untyhunter]

Sunroof eats headroom. Anyone over 6'3" may well have problems if their F20/21/22 has one fitted. Electric seats also do the same. Both together means drivers much over 6 foot struggle.

[@letsseeif]

noisy ?

[@mbingham10]

My wife drives one of these death traps I only get to drive it when it needs fuel putting in, when I switch it to sports plus the engine note changes the traction control backs off the suspension stiffens significantly and the back wheels turn into castors, in the wet its almost impossible to drive fast, even in a straight line its unpredictable my A45 is worlds apart to drive in any weather condition, and we on get 23 to the gallon for the record and she drives like the vicar

[@Daniel-dg3np]

Billy Bigboy it's definitely not a car for people who aren't good at using an accelerator that is for sure. Stick to AWD.

[@taitlawrence]

In other words you can't drive very well? Correct decision sticking to your 4matic

[@mbingham10]

No I'm not the best driver in the world i must admit,

[@craigbishop2529]

I mean Joe Achilles thrashed his M135i on a video using all the different modes, so god knows what you’re doing with it 😂

[@mbingham10]

Craig Bishop I don’t know either at least they are cheap to buy

[@R_RPerformance]

I don’t no why but when I get in mine I never indicate but the other two cars and my van I indicate all the time, it must be a bmw thing🤣

[@Afgelope1]

Sunroof means extra weight + higher center of gravety + less head space + they get noisy over time...

[@FOCUSEGO]

Ignore all of the above - it's a good real-world option if you are speccing a new car.

[@STSupercars]

I agree - I'm not driving a lightweight car on a track... In the real world you're not going to notice it and I stand by that I would choose it again

[@twiggy27111976]

I get about 28mpg on empty dual carriageways at 05.30 in the morning. But that’s because I drive it like I fucking stole it 😂

[@jstar3284]

I see you like a bit of Jay - Z

[@SJD4444]

Your head rest needs to be raised. If you're rear ended, your head will go over the top! Awesome vid 👍🏻

[@rosstaylor3448]

I must be the only person that likes eco pro😂

[@twiggy27111976]

I think you need to sit on the naughty step and think about what you posted........

[@willoughby9782]

I'm getting 19.1 in my 125i 😂

[@bambychoi9366]

Chya Boi Hi Chya Boi, I’m Bambi Choi.

[@jasonleon1976]

Nice car. But KZbin is just saturated with these now.

[@Max-fd4px]

When you talk about MILES per gallon we don't have a single idea of what it means in the death of the world!