Is The CFMOTO ZFORCE 950 HO EX Worth The Money?

Luke buckles into CFMOTO's ZFORCE 950 HO EX and hammers down on the fun pedal.
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[@ljbrizo]

I RIDE WITH A LARGE GROUP OF FRIENDS ,VARIOUS DIFFERENT MACHINES, MY Z FORCE 950 WILL FOLLOW ANY OF THEM THROUGH ANYTHING, ONE DIFFERENCE I HAVE NOTICED ,IS MINE ALWAYS MAKES IT BACK HOME UNDER ITS OWN POWER AND I DONT HAVE TO SPEND MY NEXT WEEKEND FIXING BROKEN PARTS

[@popeluke6885]

My buddy's blew up brand new half way through Marblehead on drummond island they are old people machines they aren't met to ride the same trails the 60k ones can hit your just asking for a bad time

[@CristianLopez-ei1ye]

Love our 21' Z950. We ride it almost every week. It has over 800miles with no issues. We love it because like you said, it has all the extras, without paying for the extras. The machine always stands out and it doesn't look like the others. Now with the MSC tune and clutch kit I know we are going to love it even more. Great video by the way!

[@dirttraxtv]

Those boys at MSC know a thing or two for sure!! 👍👍👍

[@fistcover3831]

I'm glad that CFMOTO is here, and from the looks of it, here to stay. Regardless of what brand any of us prefer, it's reassuring to see a manufacturer who offers a price point with so many extras included. This is something I hope the other brands observe and try harder to compete with. If they do, we the consumers win in the long run!!

[@dirttraxtv]

Agreed 💯

[@BlettzaHrekleW]

Cfmoto is definitely here to stay , seeing where they were in 2015 with next to no information out there, was only 3 Cfmoto Facebook pages and one of them is mine that I started myself in February2016 , there was only 2 or 3 KZbin videos out there , now there is like 20 CFMOTO pages and tons of videos. I've owned 3 of them now with my 2016 Z800 being the 1st one and then August 2020 I got the very 1st 950 my dealer got in and then October that year we bought a 2021 Cforce 500 , we love all ours and I'd definitely consider another one

[@fistcover3831]

@William Welker what's the name of your CFMOTO fb pg?

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@BlettzaHrekleW Mr Welker....how the heck are ya? We used to chat back and forth on Facebook a couple years ago before I got booted off. I was the guy that started CFMOTO Interact on Facebook back in 2018. Had to give that up as well obviously. I still got my 2020 z950. Just turned 4500 miles and still going strong with zero issues so far. How's yours doing?

[@BlettzaHrekleW]

@@fistcover3831 Cfmoto Zforce/Uforce/Cforce Owners Club , we use to be primarily Pennsylvania In the very beginning but we were getting request from people from all over the world so we took the Pennsylvania part out but that's where I'm based out of - Central PA . Anyone Is welcome

[@Yan7001978]

That a very good review that doesnt sound like a commercial from the manufacturer. 👍

[@dirttraxtv]

Appreciate that 👍

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Great video guys! as always I enjoyed it

[@wickedmainah950]

I've got a 21 950 sport, it's been a great machine, 1200 miles without a single issue. The ride isn't the best, the power isn't the best but for 12999 it goes anywhere I want and is alot of fun. If your on the fence ,for the money you'll be happy. If your expecting an xp 1000 not so much although I'd say the moto is more reliable.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

I love my 950 HO EX

[@shelhawke7206]

I like the unique look and especially the price. However the build quality and reliability is something I'd like more information on. Great review by the way !

[@darrendesautels5871]

I’ve owned a Polaris 900 s in the past, now a pro Xp. I’d be interstates in seeing what the brake pads look like after 2000 miles. What do the wheel bearings look like at the same time and I’d love to see what the suspension mounting points, ie a arm bushings, look like. If companies like MSC and CF moto want to change people’s attitudes they need to sell some durability quality. I’d note here that the 900 s ate brake pads, required constant bearing greasing and care and the stock a arm bushings were horrible. When I had my 900s I also had a z force 800 media unit for a while. They were not comparable at that time, but that doesn’t mean th z force was bad. Just that it required a different user and expectations. It was ok. That 950 seems it would be a direct competitor to the new 900 s. Even tho its 64. On the day you need to sell the cf moto…. You’ll lose all the money you saved on purchase. Right or wrong the moto buggy is a hard sell. My 2 cents….

[@sterr1]

I bought a ho ex two months ago and couldn't be happier. I paid just over 17k with a five year extended warranty in New Hampshire.

[@robertray13]

In my area you can get a 2020 for around 9k and a new '22 for 14k. Just add an aftermarket suspension and still have massive savings compared to other competitors. Plus the cf moto already has doors, roof, windshield, and a winch. And let's be honest most of us are riding Gucci class trails that you aren't going to notice the stock suspension on.

[@popeluke6885]

If you put that toy on the trails we ride on it won't last the day, trust me a buddy of mine tried it a few years back engine blew up on Marblehead on Drummond island machine was brand new first time it had ever even been taken out

[@sorinking8149]

@@popeluke6885 It always starts out Trust me and then buddy had one.

[@popeluke6885]

@@sorinking8149 is it that hard to believe someone was able to buy a budget machine? 🤣 🤣

[@RealTalkPowersports]

I personally believe that CFMOTO is extremely conservative with their suspension travel numbers on paper.. it feels like a lot more travel than 11"

[@alexprince9035]

It’s Chinese

[@mxz1200turbo]

@@alexprince9035 try and buy anything that doesnt have made in china on it

[@jimmydesperado2936]

Those were 2020 & 2021 Sport model numbers he quoted RTP. He corrected himself in a response to another poster.

[@BlettzaHrekleW]

@@alexprince9035 Have you owned 1 yet ? Chinese means nothing today because 90% of what we ALL buy on a daily basis is made in China. A lot of the parts on the more popular brands have mostly Chinese parts on them so that argument means nothing anymore. I've had 3 now and I'd definitely consider a 4th one. Cfmoto is here to stay and they are taking a huge share of the sales world wide. In 2020 their sale were up 350% from previous year. They've really taken off and glad I have been part of helping them grow.

[@XPerienceJoe]

It's 15.2 inches travel in the rear and 13.4 inches of travel up front I believe on the spec sheet for the H.O.EX model. My buddy has one, he loves his and the suspension feels awesome after setting it up. Small bumps big bumps jumps rock crawling everything feels tight and high quality. Think I'm might go buy me one. They have rebates on both 2022 and 2023 models right now.

[@Mr.WS6]

Make this a 120hp-130hp machine and keep it 64" because 64" is best width for wood trail riding and they'll have all the business. That hp in that size would be killer.

[@douglasbaker5949]

The one Issue is the turning radius. Here in the states all of those standard items you mentioned aren’t on ours. And then you also have to install and wire turning signals and horns. These are not plug and play to use the factory lights. You have to have turning signals and horns in our township to ride the streets. Overall the machine is a huge bargain for the money outlay.

[@benmayhew373]

Do you happen to remember/know what partial windshield that is? And rear view mirror? I'm having a hard time finding a partial windshield for my 2023 ho ex. Thanks in advance.

[@marcosv44]

Hey , I am from Argentina and in here we have the 1000 sport R, is the same as this one or is it different ? Because I could find any review from you about the 1000 sport R and I would love to see it.

[@mikes2020]

At 1:26 in the video, what is hanging off the bottom rear of the machine?

[@mattreier3535]

how is the travel on this one. is 11 inches worth it like for medium rock crawling, compared to the 20 21 inches of travel on the rzr's.

[@thegodfreyspecial423]

Is there enough adjustability in the provided shocks to dial out some of the handling issues?

[@dirttraxtv]

That's something we did not play with and just reported on the base settings. If we did a day's worth of suspension calibrating we might be able to dial it in to where we were happier with it. This is where a company like Shock Therapy would be able to help out.

[@rmax4haliburton]

Close, but not quite there yet. Perhaps drop the no name generic springs and shocks?

[@mxz1200turbo]

shocks are fine you just have to ajust them

[@outdoorbluecollarlife]

The owners manual actually says 13 and 15 inches of travel. 11 is the normal 950. Ho ex is 13 front and 15 rear

[@dirttraxtv]

Excellent catch and you are correct. It should be 13.4 front travel and 15.2 rear. Thank you for pointing that out.

[@chadr7522]

What’s the best model of these to buy for the money?

[@bigjay6743]

I don't know what you're talking about you can ride it just as hard as you can any other Side-by-side and actually make it home with your front end still Intact. You know what brandI'm talking about. Or do you?

[@bigjay6743]

Everybody wants more and more power but you notice the machines with a lot of power are always broken because they tear themselves apart. Sure the motor is bigger but the parts really aren't.

[@dirttraxtv]

They're also driven the hardest.

[@jimmydesperado2936]

Having just recently test ridden a 2022 z950 HO EX.....I can honestly say there is a nice improvement in power and suspension quality from my 2020. I do like the new gauge display versus the old as well. And yes....the seats in the new HO models are a tad more plush. Here in the states however....we do not get the 5 year warranty....no mirrors and no lower door inserts.....but at $14,995 USD those material things can be added easily enough for a few hundred dollars. I paid $12,995 for my z950 approx. 2-1/2 years ago. It came with an extra year warranty (2 year warranty). It's definitely not as powerful as the usual suspects from Can Am, Polaris and Yamaha....nor does it have equal ride quality to those. What it has provided is a ton of fun and a ton of problem free miles. $13k doesn't buy much these days especially in terms of off road machines. At 4500 miles with zero issues is what impresses me the most about my machine.....and quite honestly that alone is what is keeping me from upgrading not only to another brand.....but also from upgrading to a new z950 HO. It's hard to give up something that when I climb into it....I know is going to get me from point A to point B each and every time. And to me...that above everything else is priceless.

[@thefalloutshelter7799]

Here in Canada we don't get the mirrors or lower doors.....those are extras.......its a mistake in the video

[@khughes9013]

shifting performance in a belt driven atv?

[@k.l.858]

I agree mostly with this review except for the clutching. It’s terrible. I own a HO EX 2023. I bought a aftermarket stage 3 clutch kit and installed it and it now runs great. Can’t always believe theses reviews

[@208flatbedOO]

When will you test the new 1000?

[@dirttraxtv]

We'll get more CFMOTO units in the spring to evaluate.

[@208flatbedOO]

@@dirttraxtv you guys rock! Happy new year!

[@ISuckAtCOD1]

As you guys may recall from awhile i commented on a different video stating how I totalled my wildcat sport, well now I'm finally ready for a new side by side. I am considering one of these, what do you guys think compared to something like a talon

[@dirttraxtv]

I'd drive a Talon all day long.

[@jimmydesperado2936]

4500 problem free clicks on the odo.....and I feel like I'm riding with the quality of a Honda for $10k less.

[@ISuckAtCOD1]

@@jimmydesperado2936 thankyou for that I'm still doing my research but I'm leaning twords a 950 HO EX

[@popeluke6885]

Talon all day not even a question, I wouldn't own one of these pieace of crap cfmotos the only thing they might be good for is for old people to take a little drive down the road in and most old people just drive gold carts to begin with if you wanna buy this machine to ride with your rzr and x3 buddy's you will be very very letdown and so will they when they have to stop every 15 mins and wait foe you to catch up 🤣

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@popeluke6885 I hope you didn't learn about SxS's from the same people that taught you your grammar. If so that explains a lot.

[@yamaha1675]

I have a can am maverick 2015 with 400 miles on it that I just bought. No way in hell I would pay 30 grand for a sxs. I would try one of these on price and review. I see ppl all the time with a 40 grand sxs and a 5k truck pulling it. Doesn't make since to me. Everybody I know swears by a rzr but always working on them. But they look good though😅

[@hwinterr]

Suspension has the right idea but wrong execution. No dual-rate springs, just dual springs because of a lack of crossover ring, shock bodies are not big enough and valving is wayyy off, they could do much better here if they just put their minds to it.

[@joshc606]

Same as a RZR XP so I don’t see a big deal with it.

[@hwinterr]

@@joshc606 Just because things look the same, doesnt mean they are the same, and also the xp1000 stock suspension is not very good at all. Suspension geometry is the biggest factor and cfmoto just didnt get that right, they dont have real world testing on these machines like polaris, artic cat, etc do

[@jimmydesperado2936]

Just a note.....Dual rate shocks from the usual candidate shock manufacturers puts a machine like this in Canada from a $20k rail....to a $25k rail. In the states a $15k rail to a $20k rail. At that point why not just purchase a RZR or Maverick? Cfmoto's mission statement has never included the names "Can Am' or "Polaris" in it. It's a brand putting people out on the trails dependably without breaking their bank account.

[@hwinterr]

@@jimmydesperado2936 Its easy enough to swap valve disc and throw on a crossover ring, add a few hundred to the price and people would be happy with the change

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@hwinterr In my honest opinion the only issue with the shocks at least the ones that came stock on my 2020 sport....were the springs. I upgraded to Bandit tenders 300 miles ago at about the 4200 mile mark....and it was a noticeable enough improvement that I wondered why the hell I didn't do it prior. Cost was about $270....and a few hours of my time. I can't even put a value on the knowledge I gained from doing this task myself. It forced me to get into the meat and potatoes of the adjustment settings while I had them out of my machine for the spring swap. From the factory....or from the dealer I'm not sure who was responsible for the set up when i purchased....I realized they weren't set optimum to the type of riding I do.....or to the weight of the primary 2 occupants....and the weight of the contents I've added to the machine. I actually prefer the way it rides now....to the ride quality on a new z950 HO I had recently test ridden.

[@mattsloop2736]

For 14k you can't beat one. Definitely better then a beat up Polaris

[@HankAaronJoseph19]

5 years Canadian warranty, that's 4 years US?

[@boilermakerslash8166]

yea you Americans are crazy drivers 👍let it rip just pay the duty get warranty and exchange you will be way ahead bro if you live I a border town .

[@damianoby8540]

EVERYONE HOLLER ABOUT RESALE VALUE. THE VALUE GOES UPNON ATVS WHEN THERE ARE A LOT ON THE MARKET, NOT JUST ENTERING THE GAME! NOT TRYING TO SELL ANYWAY!

[@mxz1200turbo]

i have same machine shocks need to be ajusted for those fast trails thats what the ajustments are for. rides like any other. as far as the handling a flater tread tire will fix that. needs real test drivers not turn key and go riders (Luke)

[@dirttraxtv]

Dude, did you seriously just jump on here to throw down insults?

[@mxz1200turbo]

@@dirttraxtv Dude, wasnt throwing down insults just saying ajust your ride and retake your test drive.

[@ch3vy327]

Why does Canada get a 5 year warranty and US is only 1?

[@dirttraxtv]

Dunno. Different distributors.

[@XxnosmanXx]

Probably because we don’t put on 24” rims with 44” tires.

[@grudgetank3127]

what is hanging down underneath at 4:43 , look busted..

[@dirttraxtv]

Good eye! Not sure whst that was...

[@grudgetank3127]

@@dirttraxtv skid plate perhaps, loving your vids !

[@thatbelgiandude1433]

Its the towhook on the back it seems in slomo

[@grudgetank3127]

@@thatbelgiandude1433 looked weird

[@thatbelgiandude1433]

@@grudgetank3127 it looks weird indeed :D

[@ericlessard5021]

11" of travel? This is not enought for a sport utv!

[@dirttraxtv]

That was our error. This model is actually 13.4 inches front travel and 15.2 inches out back.

[@timcool251]

This is for when you want to go where the Joneses go, but you don't care to keep up with them.

[@damianoby8540]

Sp u haven't seen them on the trails

[@timcool251]

@damianoby8540 I'm aware that there are highly capable machines however, Polaris and Canam are still more capable machines.

[@upaginit]

it d be worth 17k not 20

[@johnnyfercik2455]

Your nuts going 90 miles a hour on a dirt trail,

[@wasupfool5692]

You will find out in 2 years time when you go to sell it or trade it in, IF anyone will even take it on trade. Resale value on these machines are nothing. And yes I'm speaking from experience

[@TT-ch2pz]

It just looks odd. Whoever made the decision to go with this design at CF Moto should be fired.

[@dirttraxtv]

Extreme, but yes. Ugly as sin.

[@TonyChin226]

Iv only heard they’re complete junk.

[@damianoby8540]

From who, not owners!!

[@TonyChin226]

@@damianoby8540 yes, ranchers that buy them to save a few bucks but then after a short time every bearing and bushing and joint on it is clapped our.

[@alexprince9035]

I’m sorry but it’s hideous

[@IXxMcCoyxXl]

And junk

[@joshc606]

@@IXxMcCoyxXlprove it

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@joshc606 He can't....but I can prove that it isn't....or at least that mine is not.

[@popeluke6885]

@Matt McCoy they're for old people and people that can't afford the big boy toys although if you ride with people with real machines like the x3 or rzr they gonna get pretty annoyed stoping snd waiting for you every 15 Mina so you can keep up and better hope they have a extra seat for when you break down 🤣 🤣 couple years back a buddy of mine bought a brand new one we took it to Drummond island the engine didn't last 1 day ended up blew up about half way down Marblehead and then cf moto didn't want to fix it my buddy had to get a lawyer to get him out of it since he still owed on it and now he drives a x3 lesson learned save until you can afford the real thing not a knock off

[@jefferywaters1696]

@@popeluke6885 i ride with turbo s canam x3 and krxs all the time in the mountains. My machine does everything they do

[@popeluke6885]

Couldn't pay me to go trail riding in one of those pieces of crap 🤣 🤣

[@damianoby8540]

Damn lie!

[@popeluke6885]

@damianoby8540 I have a real one not a budget version 🤣 🤣