Is The FOA Corporate Now? I Filled Out Fisker My Proof of Claim Plus Key Fob And 2.2 Updates

[@elseefried]

Adam, once again, you are a life saver to this procrastinator. I followed you step by step as I filled out my form online. Your description of the claim was VERY helpful, and how to add the attachments. I, like so many others, truly appreciate all your work. Keep it up.

[@Aslash304]

Thanks so much for this feedback! Let’s hope for a favorable result!

[@bheppes]

Thanks for all you do for Fisker owners ... I'm worried about the FOA as well and firewalling an owner who is trying to help is .... NOT .... a good way to go about it, especially when they say the want to do the deal he has already done??

[@Aslash304]

@@bheppes certainly food for thought

[@SilvanoWilliams]

You should ask that owner what the proposed profit margin was going to be for those keyfobs. It gets really interesting when you put dollar signs into this equation and you try to figure out who is doing good for the rest of the owners.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@SilvanoWilliamsdoes the profit margin matter? The important thing is the availability and the cost to the purchaser. Its petty and counter productive to complain that someone is both making a living AND providing a good service. That's literally how the free market works.

[@Aslash304]

@@SilvanoWilliamsI’d be curious to know what people think a fair profit margin is.

[@Turbomgzt]

@SilvanoWilliams good point. My company deals with RFID cards a lot. We buy them in packs of 500 for about £20. We sell them for £9.99 each. I know car fobs will be more expensive to manufacture, but the principle is the same. The FOA is only going to be facilitating owner's needs from AL. As I understand it. Or are they going to be resellers of Ocean parts and servicing and repairs? Not sure exactly what they are going to sell.

[@markbuttrick8757]

Adam thanks for the step by step. I found it very helpful and really appreciate you sharing this!!

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for the kind words! I am glad you found it helpful

[@mikeadams9302]

Hey Adam, I also want to thank you for your support. I have been watching your channel since your Fisker pop-up in NY. Please keep up the great work.

[@Aslash304]

I really appreciate this! Thanks for sticking with me!

[@nirvaanmeharchand5896]

Thanks for the detailed help Adam.

[@Aslash304]

At your service. Happy to help

[@humbertopatch6545]

Thanks this helped. I did notice on my paper claim I already had an ID and Pin and that helped fill it step 1 on electronic form.

[@Aslash304]

Very good to hear

[@richardkirkpa]

Thank you for your continued support of Fisker Folks.

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for watching!

[@DaveDarin]

I know of no other car that has so many fragile warnings when an over the air is coming. The do's and don'ts are incredible. Just those alone make skeptical and tempted to do any and everything you can to not allow for an OTA update.

[@Aslash304]

A fragile situation, indeed

[@AngelicaPerez-Johnston]

Thanks Adam, this is just crazy all the way around.

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for watching!

[@Turbomgzt]

Another great post Adam. I'm now banned from all Fisker Ocean groups. Because I am now throwing caution about the FOA. Can't win. Try to help and caution and get kicked with abuse. Keep trucking mate 👍

[@Turbomgzt]

Ps I'm Dave who emailed you yesterday.

[@reviewaccount8377]

Same for me. Got banned because of questions that they claim were negative.

[@davidmerwin7763]

Thanks Adam. Great info. I submitted my claim electronically last month. I am gone for a week. I left my FOU on a trickle charger. It will be interesting to see how the car is when we get back on Saturday. I did not have 2.2 when I left.

[@Aslash304]

I hope your trip goes well!

[@davidmerwin7763]

@@Aslash304 Thanks Adam!

[@typxxilps]

Invite the key fob expert to an open dialog with the FOA cause FOA has to explain a bit more then just the obvious purchase power and procedure arguments. FOA is building up a lot of power which can be used properly and also abused big times.

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@reviewaccount8377]

He did. He was on a town hall before they ripped it from him.

[@SilvanoWilliams]

It's a pretty simple situation, really. The FOA is about doing what's right for all owners at minimal cost. The idea that was proposed was that the sale of keyfobs should not be a for profit business. When someone is looking to make over $300 worth of profit from each sale, and has the potential to sell well over 2000 of these keyfobs, their priorities change a little bit. They may even resort to victimizing themselves in order to maintain that business plan. I'm just saying'...

[@reviewaccount8377]

@@SilvanoWilliams ha haha 300k profit form each sale. You’re delusional. You haven’t a clue but it’s not surprising. True colors will show sooner rather than later. I’m going to sit back and enjoy the scene.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@SilvanoWilliamsso no capitalism here then. And Communism has always worked so well...

[@jacenvalo71]

If i remember correctly, NHTSA only deals with recalls that would affect saftey concerns while being operated on the road. So broken vents would most likely not fall under that category. It would just be a manufacturer TSB/ Recall at that point. And since the vents CAN be "manually opened" its definitely at the bottom of their priority 😅

[@Aslash304]

I appreciate this feedback

[@ds928s2]

I received 2 proof of claim packets. I logged in with the ID and Pin that was printed on the cover sheet, they were both pre-loaded with my contact information but when I got to step 5 (Debtor Selection), the first had already selected Fisker Inc, the second had already selected Fisker Group Inc, so it seems I'm eligible to file a claim against both entities.

[@Aslash304]

Excellent. Can’t hurt

[@liuyi900]

Henrik disappeared since March

[@Aslash304]

No Notes here

[@geehongcheung3230]

Thank You!

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for watching

[@wardpaine8194]

Proof of claim is interesting

[@Aslash304]

Yes. A deep rabbit hole

[@mikeobrien2277]

Adam, where are the service centers? Any in the Chicagoland (IL) area?

[@Aslash304]

At this point they are working this out. I’ll try to get a list for you

[@ambercornish2313]

We filed a proof of claim online on July 24, 2024. A couple days ago we received 2 large envelopes : both containing blank forms of Modified Official Form 410 Proof of Claim addressed from Fisker Inc. c/o dba Verita El Segundo CA. What steps do we take next?

[@Aslash304]

I received the same envelope, and I have not filed a claim, I believe all listed on the original creditors list would receive that document. I hope this helps.

[@rmorales1029]

Yeah, I got three letters w/ different numbers on them. I am planning on submitting all three letters to Veritas even though the info will be the same.

[@ambercornish2313]

Thanks for the advice

[@GeeJayDee_null]

I guess what I was wondering is if I have already filled out a claim and mailed it, do I need to fill out this new modified form? is there a way to confirm the mailing was received?

[@Aslash304]

The reason I decided to file digitally was that they confirm the receipt immediately. If you’ve filed and mailed, they should have that

[@mschruntek]

@GeeJayDee_null I sent the filled out paper version along with a printed out addendum in via USPS Certified Mail, which is meant to require a signature, to the following address: Fisker Claims 222 N. Pacific Coast Hwy #300 El Segundo, CA 90245 I also got tracking to make sure it arrived, which shows that it was left with the front desk / reception / mailroom. So I'm not sure if anyone actually did sign for it. I'm not positive if mine needs to be resubmitted either.

[@Aslash304]

@@mschruntekI don’t think so. But it’s always good to have some kind of confirmation.

[@typxxilps]

FOA will make its own profits and they will disapear with the money made - of cause legally by writing a 200k bill for consulting or programming. dubious developement when the owners group become a cow will be milked by the owners.

[@cristianfleming8313]

Bookmark this comment for a year from now when it hasn’t happened.

[@Turbomgzt]

​@cristianfleming8313 when what hasn't happened?

[@Turbomgzt]

I have massive concerns about the FOA. They seemed very quick off the mark getting set up and getting in on the bk hearings. Almost like they were pre prepared and knew all along this was going to happen. I really can't see how they can manage it all, without massive funding and organising. The logistics alone will be a nightmare.

[@cristianfleming8313]

@@Turbomgzt FOA isn’t disappearing with anything. I’m saying check back in a year and that will not have happened. I recognize the FOA needs to earn people’s trust and that’s what we intend to do.

[@typxxilps]

@@cristianfleming8313 but let us know why someone with expertise has been kicked out this way when he was send home that he could get the key job but only for a tiny margin which would mean that others would make the money from the fobs. Has happened before that things went down when the whatsoever ownersgroup was in the hands of a few who drove the decision into their hands. But who cares, I have no Fisker and will not get one until the prices will drop below 20k - just to slaughter the car for spare parts and reuse the battery in 4 pieces as home storage. I will sell all parts and keep the battery to run a canbus project and supply 2 others with the same battery solution. Goal is 40 kWh lfp battery for less than 4000€ and 2 more each 20 kWh battery. But my intentions are open and not hidden in a club behind closed doors. Transparency would look different .

[@effingsix3825]

🤔 Filing the claim will help to get in line for warranty items, should they ever be resolved. The FOA seems to be an entity to manage legal risk. Quote:” Bankruptcy Remote Term used to describe an entity formed to develop, own and operate a special project while isolating financial risk and minimizing bankruptcy risk, such as a single purpose entity, a special purpose vehicle (SPV) or a special purpose entity (SPE). The term may also be used to refer to the ringfenced assets held by such an entity.” Bless your heart Adam, but my presumption under the circumstances will be that Fisker Ocean owners will not be reimbursed for the loss of value in their vehicles. Here’s a recap of Fisker’s excellent adventures by a Tesla channel. Hard to tell if they merely wanted the victory lap, though they did cover some of the foibles, such as the loss of vehicles in a hurricane. They’re in the company go “poof” camp. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j37NlYqnitOWndUsi=N63ldP9HeLdafvGh

[@Aslash304]

I’d love your thoughts on Fisker’s future as a company after liquidation. Thanks for the feedback

[@effingsix3825]

@@Aslash304 Thanks. Still waiting to see a stalking horse bid.

[@gimmeroc7172]

Adam. Thanks for still following this floating turd all the way down until it is out of the bowl. I am glad I got out when I could. Question is what is the likelihood of owners actually getting anything? They have no cash and no real assets so how much can the pot really be? Since owners will be at the bottom does filing out a form mean we get a check for $3.57 in two years? Just curious what your expectations are.

[@Aslash304]

$3.57 is a pretty bullish case. I’ll address this in an upcoming video.

[@Popster68]

Do I still have to have the car to make a claim?

[@Aslash304]

@@Popster68 no

[@shckltnebay]

So no app to unlock with a phone?

[@Aslash304]

@@shckltnebay based on that resource, no

[@reviewaccount8377]

FOA keeps saying 2.2 will use phone as a key. 😂😂😂😂

[@roladi1]

Does this proof of claim interfer with the arbitration process by Hagens Berman against Chase?

[@Aslash304]

@@roladi1 I’ve asked Hagens Berman. I’ll let you know as soon as I find out.

[@roladi1]

@@Aslash304 It would be nice if a video is made on this

[@Aslash304]

@@roladi1next video