Adam, once again, you are a life saver to this procrastinator. I followed you step by step as I filled out my form online. Your description of the claim was VERY helpful, and how to add the attachments. I, like so many others, truly appreciate all your work. Keep it up.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this feedback! Let’s hope for a favorable result!
@mikeadams93022 ай бұрын
Hey Adam, I also want to thank you for your support. I have been watching your channel since your Fisker pop-up in NY. Please keep up the great work.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this! Thanks for sticking with me!
@bheppes2 ай бұрын
Thanks for all you do for Fisker owners ... I'm worried about the FOA as well and firewalling an owner who is trying to help is .... NOT .... a good way to go about it, especially when they say the want to do the deal he has already done??
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
@@bheppes certainly food for thought
@SilvanoWilliams2 ай бұрын
You should ask that owner what the proposed profit margin was going to be for those keyfobs. It gets really interesting when you put dollar signs into this equation and you try to figure out who is doing good for the rest of the owners.
@wizzyno15662 ай бұрын
@@SilvanoWilliamsdoes the profit margin matter? The important thing is the availability and the cost to the purchaser. Its petty and counter productive to complain that someone is both making a living AND providing a good service. That's literally how the free market works.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
@@SilvanoWilliamsI’d be curious to know what people think a fair profit margin is.
@Turbomgzt2 ай бұрын
@SilvanoWilliams good point. My company deals with RFID cards a lot. We buy them in packs of 500 for about £20. We sell them for £9.99 each. I know car fobs will be more expensive to manufacture, but the principle is the same. The FOA is only going to be facilitating owner's needs from AL. As I understand it. Or are they going to be resellers of Ocean parts and servicing and repairs? Not sure exactly what they are going to sell.
@humbertopatch65452 ай бұрын
Thanks this helped. I did notice on my paper claim I already had an ID and Pin and that helped fill it step 1 on electronic form.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Very good to hear
@markbuttrick87572 ай бұрын
Adam thanks for the step by step. I found it very helpful and really appreciate you sharing this!!
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! I am glad you found it helpful
@richardkirkpa2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your continued support of Fisker Folks.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DaveDarin2 ай бұрын
I know of no other car that has so many fragile warnings when an over the air is coming. The do's and don'ts are incredible. Just those alone make skeptical and tempted to do any and everything you can to not allow for an OTA update.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
A fragile situation, indeed
@nirvaanmeharchand58962 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed help Adam.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
At your service. Happy to help
@Turbomgzt2 ай бұрын
Another great post Adam. I'm now banned from all Fisker Ocean groups. Because I am now throwing caution about the FOA. Can't win. Try to help and caution and get kicked with abuse. Keep trucking mate 👍
@Turbomgzt2 ай бұрын
Ps I'm Dave who emailed you yesterday.
@reviewaccount83772 ай бұрын
Same for me. Got banned because of questions that they claim were negative.
@davidmerwin77632 ай бұрын
Thanks Adam. Great info. I submitted my claim electronically last month. I am gone for a week. I left my FOU on a trickle charger. It will be interesting to see how the car is when we get back on Saturday. I did not have 2.2 when I left.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
I hope your trip goes well!
@davidmerwin77632 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 Thanks Adam!
@AngelicaPerez-Johnston2 ай бұрын
Thanks Adam, this is just crazy all the way around.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jacenvalo712 ай бұрын
If i remember correctly, NHTSA only deals with recalls that would affect saftey concerns while being operated on the road. So broken vents would most likely not fall under that category. It would just be a manufacturer TSB/ Recall at that point. And since the vents CAN be "manually opened" its definitely at the bottom of their priority 😅
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
I appreciate this feedback
@ds928s22 ай бұрын
I received 2 proof of claim packets. I logged in with the ID and Pin that was printed on the cover sheet, they were both pre-loaded with my contact information but when I got to step 5 (Debtor Selection), the first had already selected Fisker Inc, the second had already selected Fisker Group Inc, so it seems I'm eligible to file a claim against both entities.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Excellent. Can’t hurt
@typxxilps2 ай бұрын
Invite the key fob expert to an open dialog with the FOA cause FOA has to explain a bit more then just the obvious purchase power and procedure arguments. FOA is building up a lot of power which can be used properly and also abused big times.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@reviewaccount83772 ай бұрын
He did. He was on a town hall before they ripped it from him.
@SilvanoWilliams2 ай бұрын
It's a pretty simple situation, really. The FOA is about doing what's right for all owners at minimal cost. The idea that was proposed was that the sale of keyfobs should not be a for profit business. When someone is looking to make over $300 worth of profit from each sale, and has the potential to sell well over 2000 of these keyfobs, their priorities change a little bit. They may even resort to victimizing themselves in order to maintain that business plan. I'm just saying'...
@reviewaccount83772 ай бұрын
@@SilvanoWilliams ha haha 300k profit form each sale. You’re delusional. You haven’t a clue but it’s not surprising. True colors will show sooner rather than later. I’m going to sit back and enjoy the scene.
@wizzyno15662 ай бұрын
@@SilvanoWilliamsso no capitalism here then. And Communism has always worked so well...
@liuyi9002 ай бұрын
Henrik disappeared since March
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
No Notes here
@wardpaine81942 ай бұрын
Proof of claim is interesting
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Yes. A deep rabbit hole
@mikeobrien22772 ай бұрын
Adam, where are the service centers? Any in the Chicagoland (IL) area?
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
At this point they are working this out. I’ll try to get a list for you
@ambercornish23132 ай бұрын
We filed a proof of claim online on July 24, 2024. A couple days ago we received 2 large envelopes : both containing blank forms of Modified Official Form 410 Proof of Claim addressed from Fisker Inc. c/o dba Verita El Segundo CA. What steps do we take next?
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
I received the same envelope, and I have not filed a claim, I believe all listed on the original creditors list would receive that document. I hope this helps.
@rmorales10292 ай бұрын
Yeah, I got three letters w/ different numbers on them. I am planning on submitting all three letters to Veritas even though the info will be the same.
@ambercornish23132 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice
@typxxilps2 ай бұрын
FOA will make its own profits and they will disapear with the money made - of cause legally by writing a 200k bill for consulting or programming. dubious developement when the owners group become a cow will be milked by the owners.
@cristianfleming83132 ай бұрын
Bookmark this comment for a year from now when it hasn’t happened.
@Turbomgzt2 ай бұрын
@cristianfleming8313 when what hasn't happened?
@Turbomgzt2 ай бұрын
I have massive concerns about the FOA. They seemed very quick off the mark getting set up and getting in on the bk hearings. Almost like they were pre prepared and knew all along this was going to happen. I really can't see how they can manage it all, without massive funding and organising. The logistics alone will be a nightmare.
@cristianfleming83132 ай бұрын
@@Turbomgzt FOA isn’t disappearing with anything. I’m saying check back in a year and that will not have happened. I recognize the FOA needs to earn people’s trust and that’s what we intend to do.
@typxxilps2 ай бұрын
@@cristianfleming8313 but let us know why someone with expertise has been kicked out this way when he was send home that he could get the key job but only for a tiny margin which would mean that others would make the money from the fobs. Has happened before that things went down when the whatsoever ownersgroup was in the hands of a few who drove the decision into their hands. But who cares, I have no Fisker and will not get one until the prices will drop below 20k - just to slaughter the car for spare parts and reuse the battery in 4 pieces as home storage. I will sell all parts and keep the battery to run a canbus project and supply 2 others with the same battery solution. Goal is 40 kWh lfp battery for less than 4000€ and 2 more each 20 kWh battery. But my intentions are open and not hidden in a club behind closed doors. Transparency would look different .
@effingsix38252 ай бұрын
🤔 Filing the claim will help to get in line for warranty items, should they ever be resolved. The FOA seems to be an entity to manage legal risk. Quote:” Bankruptcy Remote Term used to describe an entity formed to develop, own and operate a special project while isolating financial risk and minimizing bankruptcy risk, such as a single purpose entity, a special purpose vehicle (SPV) or a special purpose entity (SPE). The term may also be used to refer to the ringfenced assets held by such an entity.” Bless your heart Adam, but my presumption under the circumstances will be that Fisker Ocean owners will not be reimbursed for the loss of value in their vehicles. Here’s a recap of Fisker’s excellent adventures by a Tesla channel. Hard to tell if they merely wanted the victory lap, though they did cover some of the foibles, such as the loss of vehicles in a hurricane. They’re in the company go “poof” camp. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j37NlYqnitOWndUsi=N63ldP9HeLdafvGh
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
I’d love your thoughts on Fisker’s future as a company after liquidation. Thanks for the feedback
@effingsix38252 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 Thanks. Still waiting to see a stalking horse bid.
@geehongcheung32302 ай бұрын
Thank You!
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@GeeJayDee_null2 ай бұрын
I guess what I was wondering is if I have already filled out a claim and mailed it, do I need to fill out this new modified form? is there a way to confirm the mailing was received?
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
The reason I decided to file digitally was that they confirm the receipt immediately. If you’ve filed and mailed, they should have that
@mschruntek2 ай бұрын
@GeeJayDee_null I sent the filled out paper version along with a printed out addendum in via USPS Certified Mail, which is meant to require a signature, to the following address: Fisker Claims 222 N. Pacific Coast Hwy #300 El Segundo, CA 90245 I also got tracking to make sure it arrived, which shows that it was left with the front desk / reception / mailroom. So I'm not sure if anyone actually did sign for it. I'm not positive if mine needs to be resubmitted either.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
@@mschruntekI don’t think so. But it’s always good to have some kind of confirmation.
@Popster682 ай бұрын
Do I still have to have the car to make a claim?
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
@@Popster68 no
@gimmeroc71722 ай бұрын
Adam. Thanks for still following this floating turd all the way down until it is out of the bowl. I am glad I got out when I could. Question is what is the likelihood of owners actually getting anything? They have no cash and no real assets so how much can the pot really be? Since owners will be at the bottom does filing out a form mean we get a check for $3.57 in two years? Just curious what your expectations are.
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
$3.57 is a pretty bullish case. I’ll address this in an upcoming video.
@shckltnebay2 ай бұрын
So no app to unlock with a phone?
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
@@shckltnebay based on that resource, no
@reviewaccount83772 ай бұрын
FOA keeps saying 2.2 will use phone as a key. 😂😂😂😂
@roladi12 ай бұрын
Does this proof of claim interfer with the arbitration process by Hagens Berman against Chase?
@Aslash3042 ай бұрын
@@roladi1 I’ve asked Hagens Berman. I’ll let you know as soon as I find out.
@roladi12 ай бұрын
@@Aslash304 It would be nice if a video is made on this