Is the KTM 890 Adventure R too heavy to ride solo? Drop fest starts at

Multiple drops and a bit of comedy!
Heads up for a spontaneous film after an epic day out on the green lanes of Devon. There is something really rewarding about getting into a situation and only having ourselves to get us out. This was unexpected but I learned a huge amount about real world solo motorcycle recovery.
Thanks for watching and subscribe if you like what you see. Thanks.

[@grandiagod]

I find that one of the best accessories a new ADV rider can buy for his large bike is a gym membership. Sure helped me!

[@advnoobie6061]

Haha- it does need some fitness- I have found that riding off road is making me fitter and stronger as well.

[@8andsk835]

I don’t skip leg day.

[@martyn_g]

Nah! Proper technique. Rotate bars, lift from the handlebar end. Leverage! I’m lean, works for me everytime.

[@JimmyGlickster]

Deadlifts and squats are your friend. Also, lift the bike facing away from the bike. Much easier. You won’t risk injuring yourself that way and you can lift the bike many times before you are too tired.

[@michaellilley6725]

Thanks for sharing, a lesson learned for all of us, glad you and the bike came out of it relatively unscathed 👍

[@BlazerLz]

After getting in situations like this with my Africa Twin, I sold it. It was almost 100lb heavier and didn't have the low fuel tank advantage. It was a real liability riding it to places like you went alone. Swapped it for a DR650 and couldn't be happier in the weight department.

[@erictrenbeath9680]

Bottom line is this is a heavy bike, 100 lbs more than the XL/XR 600's I used to ride back in the day. But after owning a BMW 650 GS, and then an F800 GS, I find the 890 to be relatively easy to pick up. The low slung fuel tank helps a lot.

[@alec3972]

Great to see the bike being used! I keep getting told ‘ you don’t want to take that off road’. My thought is: it rides like a big EXC, so why not. And it’s more fun than a road bike.

[@advnoobie6061]

Haha. Thanks Alec. The whole Point was to use it. That’s what it’s for! And for me it’s a point of principle- I want to show that most green lanes can be done on the 890 AR 😎. Saw a couple of smaller bikes out yesterday and they looked tiny.

[@bradsanders6954]

470 lbs is not like an EXC if it lands on you.

[@RoyClendaniel]

450+ lbs is only a problem if you drop it. My 1090R with all the protection is 500lbs. It's a back breaker. When it gets sketchy, you are better off sending it. going too slow usually ends in a drop.

[@gzahnd]

Thanks for shooting this. I have all the sympathy for this, and knowing that you’re all good, I was also laughing in pain AT you during the video. What a struggle!

[@laughingmole]

Horrible hill. Well done for keeping so calm and getting out of there! Have an 890 myself. Thanks for sharing.

[@eriknash8783]

Never ride offroad solo unless you know you can lift your bike 10 times over and over. Also, when it falls on the right side, set the kickstand out before you lift so you can just set it on the stand after the lift. Also, might be worth it to play with your slip control and maybe even air you tires way down just to get out of this mess your in. I applaud you for sticking with it and filming

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Erik- all points noted and in my armoury for next time. Big error on my part not setting the slip control to 9! I think I've proven to myself I can lift the bike 10 times over :)

[@ironmanbox]

Great of you to share this experience.

[@sorin.n]

Keypoints: Superb bike. Axp does good bash plates. Mosko does good carriers. Handguards did their job. I twitched when I saw you droped the bike and your hand seemed to go towards the chain. Subscribed! 🧡

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Sorin. That was a steep learning curve day with some mistakes and lack of thought. There have been some brilliant and really useful comments on this film which I have stored away in my skills locker. I posted this film because I was far from perfect. Thanks for watching.

[@C_R_O_M________]

I would suggest lifting it with your back towards the bike to save your ... back. Moreover, make sure you have the sidestand deployed before you lift it or you'll risk dropping it on the other side.

[@d3us3xmach1na5]

I always let a shitload of air out of my tire whenever that happened and it usually helps a lot. Like 5 psi tops in the rear. Then once your out, use your tire pump if you got one.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks. That’s on the list for next time. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@teethofthelamb]

Sometimes turning back is the wisest choice, knowing when to go back is a difficult decision for some. Looks like you made the correct call by going back down the hill.

[@gthomas5350]

I absolutely love this video. It looks just like me out riding my new 2023 KTM 890 Adventure R. I am healthy and in shape but I’m also 53 years old. So riding a 450+ pound bike is a new experience for me. I’m coming from a rather light Yamaha WR250R dual sport. I’m glad to know that I’m not the only one who is learning to handle one of these amazing (and heavy) adventure bikes. If I could do it all over, I would probably get the KTM 690 Enduro.

[@advnoobie6061]

Hi Greg and great to hear- same age as me but young at heart!! I wanted the challenge and had never ridden any bike off road before this, hence the name ADV Noobie! I'm loving it and actually took my 1290 off road at the weekend.

[@Terra-Moto]

I feel your pain. I'm 160lbs on a KTM 1290 SAR and it's about 650 lbs fully loaded! Passing through Costa Rica during the rainy season with a ton of offroad...

[@advnoobie6061]

Wow. Nice adventure 👍👍

[@richardanderson3005]

Good vid and admirable determination lead to good outcome. As a trials rider I'd say the reccy idea is invaluable. Also when you approach a slippery surface like that you need to look carefully at your route - you can't ride across a camber as the back wheel (and front) will be trying to slide sideways from under you. You have to find the flattest/most level path to facilitate keeping the bike as upright as possible. That part of the trail did look particularly challenging though and the best plan may have been to take an alternative route ! 😃

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks so much for the feedback and advice. I was foolish not to reccy like I usually do!! I do look for best lines, though I’m still skilling up and might not actually hit the line I want 😂

[@whsl824]

Thank you for an honest look into something we will all encounter. Cheers from Texas!

[@advnoobie6061]

Hey WM and thanks for watching. There have been some really useful tips in these comments and I’ve learned a lot.

[@johnowens5988]

Well done. It's all about learning. you can spin the bike on the side stand if you have the room. You can fit the power parts wheels this will give you a great range of Tyler's narrower rims so don't bounce off the larger rocks like the standard rear tends to do.

[@advnoobie6061]

More great suggestions- thanks for watching.

[@4tech69]

Great video and even better attitude about the situation.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks for watching and appreciate the feedback.

[@robgreaves2633]

Bit of a nightmare that! Slippery rock as bad as ice. That was pretty steep as well so well done on getting that far up in the first instance and then getting out of the situation

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Rob. It was challenging but I like that. It was slippery even to walk on! My error doing it blind probably. Thanks for watching.

[@charlesprice6894]

Alex good to see you and Manu(?) at ABR! I had the same solo experience up a very wet steep slippery and rocky lane just outside Cheltenham called Greenway lane earlier this year, dropped it 3 times, hadn't dropped the pressure, and even with E12 & E13 Mitas it was hell.. take care! Nice vids

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Charlie and good to see you too. I was lucky enough to have a chat with my idol Chris Birch and he gave me the confidence to really play with tyre pressures. Reduce until it feels right. Really aired down the 1290 and it was brilliant on the trail.

[@albluft9252]

Thanks for sharing! Have been there myself (be glad you don't need to carry bear spray) ;) Not to bombard you with too many tips... You can turn the bike on the kick stand by placing all the weight on the stand and lifting the tires of the ground. Gotten me out of many a tight spot. Credit goes to the Gentleman from Break Magazine.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Alb. Loving all the useful advice coming in.

[@TeamStruggleBunny]

Likely you've looked at the different lifting techniques, me I prefer turning the handle bars so the front wheel points up, cup my hands under the bar end and stand up.

[@advnoobie6061]

I’m not the tallest and it’s actually a big span for me if I turn the bars the other way. I also feel facing towards the bike is mechanically better for my back. Bit like doing a deadlift!

[@TeamStruggleBunny]

@@advnoobie6061 Deadlift is the same way I lift from the bars but being tall perhaps that's where the mechanical advantage works best for me.

[@sanjosejeff]

Coming from single track trail riding on a 350, I try to start out in second gear, feather the clutch and attempt to get back on the footpegs as fast as I can to get traction to the rear wheel. That and low psi. Never tried it with all that pannier weight and a big twin but I plan on it. That 890 is next for me.

[@advnoobie6061]

Nice. The bigger bike is part of the challenge for me. The panniers actually offer some protection and also make the bike easier to lift as it sits higher. Thanks for watching.

[@Braapncamp]

Looked superslippy and much steeper than the cam shows. Sometimes we and up in situations where solo riding could be risky. Tend to get there myself... Keep it up my advriding friend!

[@advnoobie6061]

It’s all part of the adventure 😎👍

[@banarne71]

Great video once again. I’ve not been there, yet, but I’m sure I’ll come to a tricky place where I’ll drop the bike like you did. Good points on how to tackle it. 👍🏻🇸🇪🇬🇧🍻

[@ar2043]

What a fantastic video. Thank you for leaving in all the parts… The good the bad and the ugly… you Sir have earned a subscription from me just for showing us the entire encounter. That’s one of my worst fears if I were to get one of these big adventure bikes. I don’t know if I would be able to lift it up four times on one ride. I have a semi bad back and I don’t think it would put up with it. It is definitely a legitimate concern when purchasing one. Thank you for pointing that out to others. Be safe.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thank you so much for your lovely comments. You get my channel. It’s about the learning and not all about being accomplished and perfect. Thanks for watching.

[@bradleybaker8894]

There are several KZbin videos that cover different techniques for picking up an ADV bike. Even big ones. That said, if the size/weight is a concern, ride a smaller/lighter bike. In many ways they make sense for offroad travel.

[@adventureswithham2223]

I own an 890R also, I can’t watch. I admire your perseverance mate

[@riderbatang]

Way to go bro. Vince from the Philippines

[@Vahu19]

great to see that attitude!! Learning curve off road is a b!tch...i'm there at the very beginning myself so thanks for sharing your experiences with us.

[@advnoobie6061]

But it's a really fun learning curve! Thanks for watching

[@allanrilling6990]

Good advice. Having been in different but similar situation, I would add to take your time and consider removing gear (jacket,etc) when you have to move or lift bike around. Cheers!

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Alan. I tried removing gear but then realised the risk of scrapes and bumps was pretty high so put it back on. I sped up the video for the bike moving parts 😀

[@mabsbry1318]

Glad you got the racket idea. Next, put the side stand Out before you lift. Excellent calmness btw. Brilliant video.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks for watching and commenting. Really good advice from you and others, all of which I will remember to use next time.

[@dbbiking5505]

I'm currently test riding the bikes and I've been seeing what suits me to pickup and this has been best so far

[@greatfallskam]

With my new KTM 890 Adventure, I carry a MotoWinch recovery jack.

[@bradleybaker8894]

I ride alone 99% of the time. It pays to watch other riders experiences. A few years ago I stopped at the top of what looked like a challenging downhill section. I was out in the middle of nowhere. No cellular service and back then I did not have a GPS. I had second thoughts about this downhill but proceeded anyway. Halfway down it got worse than I could see from the top. I lost control of the bike and almost saved it three or four times before I went down in a less than graceful manner. Had the wind knocked out of me. It took a few minutes to feel up to getting my bike upright and running. Aside for being scuffed up I wasn't hurt. Same for the bike. This could have been so much worse. I realized that nobody knew I was out for a ride much less my route or where I might be. Took out my thermos and had a cup of coffee while I pondered my situation and worse outcomes, my gear and any changes I might make. I finished that section of trail with no issues and the remainder of my ride went well. I was lucky. I still ride solo most of the time. The experience caused me to be diligent about where I am going and making sure someone who gives a shit knows what I am up to and when I should check in. If I change my route I reach out and let my point of contact know. It is not a perfect system but it's better than nobody knowing I went for a ride or where I might be.

[@advnoobie6061]

Great story and thanks for watching. I like the challenge of being out of my own- I love the ultimate focus and risk management. I always try and walk new routes if I can't see but made the mistake of not doing that on this one. Ride safe and have fun.

[@arcadegamesify]

Do you find the suspension to be too stiff or uncomfortable on the road? I'm thinking of buying one.

[@advnoobie6061]

On the road is fine- it's more about getting the rear soft enough for off road. There is a lot of adjustability and I've had no issues. Thanks for watching.

[@darrylpaterick3108]

Block and tackle doesn't take up much room and makes lifting/recovery solo so much easier. You can balance the bike and pull on the rope at the same time (using the compound mechanical advantage).

[@madfrosty5228]

More speed to gain momentum , I know it can feel scary first time but going up hill you can’t be going slow , take a deep breath and open it you will get there next time don’t give up !

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Max Frosty. Agree. I was pretty tentative on this slope. At some Point I’ll try it again with lower tyre pressures and more speed. Thanks for watching.

[@madfrosty5228]

@@advnoobie6061 Good man 👍

[@sorin.n]

I had to watch the video again. And, as the "internet etiquette" goes, I *must* make some comments (again) 😅. Here is what I learned from my mistakes and from others: - Before lifring the bike up make sure it's in gear. - If you pick it up from the other side of the kickstand, first put the kickstand down. - Momentum is paramount (especially where there is no grip) - Here's a link to a good YT channel: advmotoskillz - Lastly, if you can, try to buy the video tutorials series from Chris Birch: Say No to Slow (check out the one for adventure bikes as he also has one for enduro). Love your content! 🧡

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Sorin and some great tips which I learned by painful experience and getting it wrong. Putting the kickstand down seems so simple but my brain just didn't consider it in the heat of the monment. Thanks for watching and ride safe.

[@sorin.n]

@@advnoobie6061 thank you for sharing!

[@iandeumayne-jones1557]

Back in the 70s we all toured off road on mid sized and big trail bikes of 250cc to 600cc. Lightweight, powerful and didn't need a strap to pick them up? Progress eh?

[@Sisu2280]

I'd upgrade to the new 2023 R version - it comes with 6 axis traction control... bike's electronics will take care of 99% of the slipping on surfaces such as these. It's like a cheat code for slippery surfaces.

[@arcadegamesify]

All the 890r's should be able to have the rally mode, cuz that was a feature on the 790r's. It's not magic tho, you don't get more traction just the computer will keep you from crashing.

[@kylajohnston4374]

great video for learning and also great responses for us newbies to learn from

[@advnoobie6061]

I certainly learned a lot from that day and even more from the response on here which I’m grateful for.

[@jean-lucjourdan7227]

Subscribed 😂👍🏼. I own the same bike starting from today and I take this as a big warning ❗️

[@advnoobie6061]

Welcome aboard!

[@100868ful]

I think lack of riding experience is a big part of the problem. Keep riding and practicing it will get easier over time.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Tony and I fully agree- I'm only 18 months into the off road adventure so still on a steep learning curve. Appreciate your support and thanks for watching.

[@jonasbaine3538]

When you start repeatedly dropping the bike it’s time to just turn it off take a break and enjoy the peaceful solitude of the woods. Which is plus of riding solo and being on your own schedule

[@advnoobie6061]

I like that ethos 👍👍😎

[@Rustyfinger]

Does the 890 r have slip control? Possibly crank that on full.

[@banarne71]

Yes it has. Good point. 👍🏻

[@advnoobie6061]

Yes- really good point and I did not think about it in the heat of the moment.

[@NelsonXDF]

Slip control does not help in this situation. 😮😮😮 On the contrary… turn off all the electronics. Soft in the throttle and clutch.

[@JohnBorgJacob]

you seem to pull down on clutch or releasing fully , instead of feathering it, which is what is causing your bike to go back or the rear to slide out

[@enricobononi8655]

You could have tried the rain map with very conservative traction control and rain throttle response

[@markkeith6351]

Great video, really useful tip about the ratchet strap to lift bike. May I know your height and weight?

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Mark. I’m 173cm and 82kg. Hope that helps. Happy riding.

[@markkeith6351]

@@advnoobie6061 Thanks Alex, that is very cool, 1 am 172 and little lighter, and I imagine we share similar similar challenges. A few years back I rented a Honda 450 MX bike in Northern Thailand and only stopped when next to tree stumps, rocks and high kerbs. Steep descents on wet rutted clay and rocks was particularly interesting. I enjoy your videos. Best wishes Mark

[@MrDannyZ123]

Listen just because you're too old and weak to pick up a bike doesn't mean it's too heavy, it's just too heavy for you. Also there were several other ways you could have gotten that done.

[@advnoobie6061]

Haha. Speak your mind Danny why don’t you 😂😂.

[@JimmyGlickster]

He is definitely not too old!!! I am the same age and easily have 10 more years in me. I won’t even say too weak, since lifting a big bike is more about technique than raw power…and using physics as your friend. 53 is young nowadays and he looks great.

[@colmdoherty49]

Take off whatever luggage u can, it’s heavy and high up so makes a big difference when lifting or manoeuvring

[@advnoobie6061]

Good shout and agree- I learned a lot from this adventure as I missed a lot of tips and tricks.

[@bosse1033]

A tip before you lift the bike up is to put the stand down, Many times that will help take a new fall to the other side. And a tip for some great wheels is Motoz Tractionator Adventure. Othervise, a good video

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Bosse- all feedback and tips much appreciated- putting the stand down seems so obvious but my brain was fuzz at that point. Thanks for watching.

[@infinitydreamzz]

Pushing the bike from behind you only use leg strength. You need to stand next to the steering, put your torso against it and push, this way you use leg, core and arm strength and you are in a more stable nearly vertical position. Push a bit at a time, then stop and reposition yourself. Repeat. Try traction control on various settings and off, see what works.

[@infinitydreamzz]

I use to own a 350 scooter, road tyres, 10kg lighter than the 890. One day I decided to take an off road path I've never taken before, had rained a few hours ago, last 40ft were 30° uphill of slippery mud and wet leaves with some slippery rock and roots here and there. Couldn't possibly turn around, bike too (top) heavy and bulky, path too steep, slippery and narrow and dropping the bike would cost me an arm and a leg (very expensive plastics) so a very similar situation to the one on this video, just a bit more hairy. Took me about 40 minutes of trial and error, sliding up and down the hill until I discovered the method mentioned above. Once I realised what I had to do I got out quickly, it was an amazing workout and quite a relief to get out of.

[@XtremeCoke]

when you drop the bike the handlebar guard could turn at mounting position and result clutch position change. Starting from stand still on slippery rock you can try to air down the tyre pressure (a lot) and use slip 9 & off road throttle to help you get the drive. You also reduce the chance rear wheel spinning freely and moving sideways. When a bike lay down for long I wouldn't start the bike straight away, I'd let it stay upright for a few minutes(and I rest a bit) before start again. I like your calm attitude.

[@advnoobie6061]

Brilliant advice- thank you and much appreciated. I thought about the rally Mode last night after watching the video and seeing the wheel spin, but it didn’t cross my mind in the heat of the moment. Great learning.

[@XtremeCoke]

@@advnoobie6061 You are welcome! We all learning. Yes rally mode is a must have on this bike, I permernently stay in rally mode rally throttle and adjust slip control to suit(normally 5). You may also consider carrying a CO2 25g cartridge (or a pump whichever works for you). Personally I put CO2, a pressure gauge, tyre repair kit and water bladder in Nomax tank bag(same as yours) for trail riding.

[@advnoobie6061]

@@XtremeCoke I like the idea of keeping it in rally mode. I carry a puncture repair kit and a small 12v pump.

[@marktidball1428]

Great Video! So glad you staged the camera each time! I'm looking to understand the limits of my 890R and am wondering what settings you were on for ride control?

[@advnoobie6061]

Hi Mark and thanks for watching. What ride settings was I on? The wrong ones I think!! I was in off road mode which allows too much wheel Spin for something to slippery. I should have put it in rally Mode 9 to minimise spin. Tyres were at 30 psi but I should have really softened the rear a lot more.

[@ne-adv]

I get it all. I'm 60+ and ride a DL1000XAL8. You question your sanity when you get remote and realize you don't have a Spot or Inreach and you can only walk out if the bike breaks and if you are injured, you may die in place.

[@advnoobie6061]

Haha. Brilliant response and you totally get it. I love riding on my own and that is part of the challenge. Thanks for watching and have fun.

[@markriley2733]

Not wanting to be a keyboard critic and obviously you made it out alive, Did you air down your tyres? They didn’t look like they were too squishy. It’s amazing how much traction you get with lower pressure Great vid I’m looking to down size my 1290SA to an 890 thanks for sharing 😁

[@advnoobie6061]

I’m loving any advice I can get- my channel Is called ADV Noobie after all 😀. No I didn’t sit down the tyres but it’s there for next time 👍

[@markriley2733]

@@advnoobie6061 I think I might have ridden that track too but on KTM 250 enduro bike. It was raining and it was a challenge even on a bike half the weight of the 890 well done fella

[@advnoobie6061]

@@markriley2733 I actually want to try it again with lower tyre pressures!!

[@miguelmaia9668]

Nice try! From my experience, having a proper setup on the suspension and bike balance and a low tire pressure ( 1,2bar rear and 1,5 bar front) does half the job. More speed , does the second half. As you say, it’s a learning curve!

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Miguel. I’ve learned so much just from the comments on this thread.

[@PassiveProfitsPro]

Great Video.. Had a chuckle to be honest but having now just collected my new 890 Adventure R, I can see what I am letting myself in for.

[@advnoobie6061]

Haha. It’s our choice what challenges we choose to take! I chose to make my learning curve steep but with preparation!

[@PassiveProfitsPro]

@@advnoobie6061 when’s your next video coming out ?

[@advnoobie6061]

@@PassiveProfitsPro it’s been a stupid busy summer but should be back filming very soon.

[@PassiveProfitsPro]

@@advnoobie6061 would be interested to see a video on your Helmet cam and microphone set up.

[@advnoobie6061]

@@PassiveProfitsPro I did one a while back but they didn’t get much interest so I’ve steered away from camera stuff. I may try again though as I’ve got more subscribers now and it could be useful to people.

[@RoyClendaniel]

If you can't handle the 890, you can forget about the 1090 or 1290 R. I keep a mini 12v winch to lift my 1090R. And do lots of weighted squats.

[@ianlongley7484]

Really good videos, we are in the same boat. Have you stopped ?looking forward to your next post.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Ian. No, not stopped- just had a massively busy summer then been working away. Looking forward to a bit of time to crack on with some new content.

[@jamesdumas6602]

First thing, Lower your tire pressures way down to about 12-15 PSI. Second thing, Unload all that luggage.

[@TheVidKid3000]

As someone who has always been a street rider, I am amazed at how willing adventure riders are to just drag their bike across rock. Its a totally different mindset and as I am looking to buy my first adventure bike, I am having a bit of a hard time grasping the idea of spending 16,000$ CAD on a bike that is guaranteed to be dropped and scratched/cracked. How do y'all get past this in your heads? Really a struggle for me. Used to buying supersports and Dukes and polishing them all day instead of letting them get dirty and scraped up.

[@advnoobie6061]

Hi Peter and thanks for watching. Completely get that as I was completely the same before October last year. The mindset shift is liberating and it feels great having a bike that is dirty more often than clean. I accepted that I was going to use the 890 for what it is intended and I rather like the battle scars. The best news is that it’s stood up to it fine and only has a few scratches. I suppose I could have been less “progressive” in my learning but I’m at the point now of not dropping it very often. Have fun and embrace the new mindset and the dark side 👍😎

[@jonasbaine3538]

i'm a former sportbike owner with those expensive plastic fairings, now have ktm 1190 s with full crash protection. its routinely covered in mud, stuck, dropped countless times... it's extremely liberating to not worry about how fragile a sportsbike is and ride freely offroad. just pick bike up and keep riding.

[@JimmyGlickster]

That’s why I love buying used for ADV bikes and trucks

[@williamarango5289]

THANK YOU FOR VIDEO ,IS AMAZING FROM CORAL SPRINGS FL USA .

[@advnoobie6061]

Hey there in Coral Springs. Thanks for watching and the lovely feedback 👍😎

[@billroberts9182]

I carry an Eastbound ratchet jackleg. With two hernia repairs I don't want any more!

[@advnoobie6061]

Nice idea. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@quackyduck1499]

Think of leverage as torque. Lifting the bike by the seat and tank is not a good way to do it. The widest part of your bike is the bars. So using the bars will give you the most amount of leverage, making it easier. You can also grab a log for extra leverage, or a rock to kick under it whilst you do a two stage lift... great if you have a bad back.

[@adamhrachowina9119]

Fit enduro tyres, the big bike eats them but it's worth more to me to have the best grip off-road as I can live with compromised road manners for the run home and fit the roadies when I feel. The 890 even with luggage on hides its weight well until sh1t gets ugly then you suddenly realise it's no 300exc and the weight is realised very quickly, especially when you're pinned under it 🤗 I use Excel rims, 1.85" and 2.5", med duty Michelin tubes with mitas E12/E13 low 20's psi and lower further on the rear when needed. In winter I'll use the terraforce ef yellow and a mousse in the front. Airing down a tubeless tyre is ok to a point, but they have very stiff sidewalls compared to a tubeless enduro tyre that's designed to flex and find grip.

[@NelsonXDF]

Try the Mitas E07+.

[@advnoobie6061]

Sorry for the delayed reply and thanks for your really valuable comments.

[@richardanderson3005]

Where is that trail btw ? Cheers.

[@advnoobie6061]

It’s near Totnes in Devon UK.

[@jeffreysenior]

You probably should’ve put the kickstand up before you start lifting it. It might stop the bike from falling over the other side. Not exactly sure in your situation. Just a thought.

[@jacobhall8044]

USE ROCK CLIMBING CHALK! I had been riding through a bare rock wash once and got stuck in this same situation, when I looked in my bag for straps I found my climbing chalk and thought I might as well give it a try. Low and behold it worked! (Edit: put it on the rock lol)

[@advnoobie6061]

That’s brilliant and I thought you were joking when I started reading!!

[@tjhell]

Not sure if you are carrying a pump and a gauge but it’s always worth dropping the rear pressure right down. 4psi and you would have had a decent chance of getting up there.

[@advnoobie6061]

Amazing and thank you. Yes, I had a pump and gauge on me that day! Didn’t occur to me to reduce pressures in the sweat of the moment😂. Brilliant learning point for next time. As well as changing the rally mode to 9. Thanks for commenting.

[@tjhell]

@@advnoobie6061 Yeah I tend to carry a small bicycle pump that can do 120psi and 2 air shots for if i'm lazy

[@mikealls8938]

Hi mate, I really enjoyed this , probably because I was drinking coffee in my warm living room😁. Looking at this bike myself, but like most people I have concerns about reliability more than anything else. Especially as I am hoping that this will take me through Europe. What's your experience been. Thanks, subscribed btw.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Christian. I’ve had the bike a year and done just under 5000 miles, a third of which has been off road. The only troubles I had were right at the start when some bolts loosened. Had a lot of good feedback on that and learned that torques need checking regularly after riding off road. Apart from that I’ve not had any issues at all. Probably topped up about 500mls of oil in the year.

[@mikealls8938]

@@advnoobie6061 Thanks for the reply. Yes I spoke with my local KTM dealer in Nottingham and they said they have improved a lot recently and generally KTM listen to customer feedback and try to rectify existing problems. Its the 2023 model I would be getting and debating whether to put a deposit down or not. Been on a lot of test rides recently making the decision harder. I noticed on the dessert that the wind noise was unbearable with the fixed screen. Glad to see the KTM doesn't really have a screen.

[@advnoobie6061]

@@mikealls8938 I bought the KTM stick on wind deflector which improves things. It’s never going to like a full on touring bike and I suppose it depends where we draw the compromise line.

[@mikealls8938]

@@advnoobie6061 Thanks. I a 6ft so I like the fact when I sat on the bike I was way above the screen. With other Adv bikes the screen just creates wind noise and I have tinnitus so not good. Naked bikes are so much quieter and never had an issue. I think people assume screens stop wind noise but in reality make it 10x worse!! Problem is there isn't a naked Adv bike😣

[@cliftonsr]

Is it too tall to sit on it to walk it up? If it is too tall for you you need to just stick with the 890 base model or just take a quad up that rout instead. Evan though Chris Burch is an excellent rider he has real long legs and he admits to it.

[@advnoobie6061]

Wish I had long legs!! I did try walking it up, but it was soooo slippery! In retrospect, I had should have had rally mode on 9 and properly aired down the rear tyre.

[@emoservedwithfries]

I suggest looking up how to mount, dismount and how to drop a bike on a hill. There are lots of things you could've done to make this easier.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks- what do you think would have made things easier- I’m always up for learning.

[@emoservedwithfries]

@@advnoobie6061 walking up a 890 r is much harder than riding it up. Throttling the clutch and rear brake while riding is much easier. Turn off rear abs completely for that. Beyond that don't be afraid to go off the trail. It will be much less slippery there. Just watch out for trees. You have a good machine and good tires trust them ^_^

[@advnoobie6061]

@@emoservedwithfries thank you Houjous.

[@emoservedwithfries]

@@advnoobie6061 watch?v=icV--rq5rzA this is the video I wanted you to find but I couldn't remember the channel is "irc Tire usa moto" (channel name) "3 clutch control drills" (title) if you don't want to use the address I provided.

[@advnoobie6061]

@@emoservedwithfries great video. Thanks.

[@mickrideout]

Really good video ones again, You could have tired dropping a faw psi out of the tyre's don't if that would have help just a thought tho.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Mick. Great idea that I didn’t think of but will put in my mental toolbox. I carry a pump anyway so so biggie to do. Thanks for the comment.

[@CyberducPA]

Hi ADV Noobie, you should sit more on the rear wheel in such a situation and maybe lower the air pressure from the wheels a bit. make sure not to drive hard with lowered air pressure an refill it if u go back to steet. Most beinners try to help the bike with the feets on the ground, that is not good because u need weight on the wheel to gain grip. Good Luck Next Time

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks Heiner and thanks for contributing to the discussion. I’m learning lots.

[@orlandoberry4031]

What about the variable traction control?

[@advnoobie6061]

Yep. My brain was not working and I should have tried that 😀

[@bradsanders6954]

A friend, who is an A enduro rider, has now broke bones twice tipping his 890R over, simple crashes but his legs got broke under the bike. People think these are trailbikes and its all in fun........I ride mine with caution but I dont baby it.

[@advnoobie6061]

Hi Brad and thanks for the comments. I agree about riding these big bikes with caution- it’s a lot of weight to stop and a lot of weight to cause injury. I’m pretty cautious anyway given my job

[@bradsanders6954]

@@advnoobie6061 I think about it. Ive broken myself riding 230 lb 2 strokes off road.......so I'm real aware of what can happen...........if a person has never spent time in hospital from dirt riding, they may not think about it so much.

[@simonhousam1989]

Where is that lane?

[@advnoobie6061]

Just off the TET between Barberton Ford and The South Hams

[@Showza83]

I dumped my 790 R in some deepish sand. I was able to hulk it up solo, with my mosko luggage still attached. I think it was mainly because I didn't want to take the walk of shame half a mile to the next inhabited, dispersed campsite 😅

[@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063]

Hey mate are you happy with your mosko bags ive ordered a 2023 890r for my first adv bike and ive worked out what rally tower to put on it and other protective parts im putting on it but i cant make my mind up on a luggage set up i will be going for 2 or 3 week trips but i want to pack lite ... any help would be appreciated

[@Showza83]

@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 congrats on the bike! I'd probably go with a givi outback 46 or 58l top case and the mosko 35l back country panniers. I have them along with 2x 5l aux pox on my bike and it's been good for a weeks worth of camping, gear, food, etc. I ended up buying a bunch of backpacking equipment because it's considerably smaller than traditional car camping stuff. I normally do 4 or 5 days of fly fishing/camping at a time, so the one side gets all my fishing/camping gear and the other side is my clothing/food. I generally over pack though, so if you're really frugal about the gear you're taking and don't mind washing clothes, eating at restaurants occasionally, etc, you should be able to fit 2 weeks in no problem.

[@Showza83]

@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 and yes I do love them haha. I crashed again last weekend riding an OHV park down here in Socal and they didn't even get a scuff. The dirt bikers were definitely giving us odd looks. 2 BMW GSs and my 790 adv R on dirt bike trails 😂

[@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063]

@@Showza83 they would have been eye balling yous on the adv bikes thinking these fuckers are off chops ... i think the 890r out of everything i would be able to ride it similar to a enduro bike compared to the other bikes if you know what I mean, pack lite and still have fun in the scrub where as the bigger bikes why would you need all that power for in the bush... I would love to meet someone overseas into the same as me and get them over here for a 3 or 4 week adventure then i would go over and do the same in there country i think that would be a awesome experience

[@advnoobie6061]

Love the Mosko Moto bags- they have taken a hammering and still going strong. I watch other films of people having to straighten out and realign hard cases after drops off-road - not for me I'm afraid.

[@iandavis2810]

Where was this ?

[@advnoobie6061]

South Hams in Devon.

[@iandavis2810]

@@advnoobie6061 Thank you

[@NelsonXDF]

It’s not about bike’s weight! It’s lack of skill. I ride a BMW R 1200 GS solo . I’m 64! You are nor prepared for it. Sorry

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks for your candid comment Nelson and thanks for watching. I don't think it's lack of skill, just not enough!😀. And I agree it's about the rider and not the bike, so apologies for the misnomer title. I'm 52, so hope I will be as skilled as you when I get to 64.

[@larryproffer8603]

This would be like me being stupid enough to post a video of my 106 golf round today.

[@advnoobie6061]

I like to think it's being honest and not minding making a fool of myself :) This was my first drop in a long time and it was made worse by compounded errors on my part. There has been some great discussion which I have learned from, and if that helps others, I'm all in.. Thanks for watching.

[@narzaust]

It is the best adventure bike in the world better than desert x, norden 901. It's only competitor is tenere 700. 890 r has 263 mm ground clearance and 240 mm suspension on front and rear. It is even better than its big brother 1290 r in terms of off road. Now now the 2023 model is an apex offroader. The one in the video is 2022 model??

[@advnoobie6061]

My friend is looking to buy a Desert X- I hope he gets one so we can put them side by side. That would be my only other choice if I had to ditch the 890, though that is based on looks rather than having ridden one. Thanks for watching.

[@F1since79]

A few things. Remove the tank bag and upside pannier. Then drag the bike so you are lifting downhill instead of up. Finally, don’t skip leg day 😅

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks for the tips!

[@F1since79]

@@advnoobie6061 Obviously a bit tongue in cheek. But I have dragged my 890 across rocks, cringing as I did so, to get it oriented. I also learned that if you drop an 890 in deep sand, the fuel tank just buries itself and the bike is over 90 degrees! No bueno! I was alone and had to dig extra deep to get her back up. Nearly passed out!

[@advnoobie6061]

Ouch- that does not sound like fun!

[@borderm3]

Ever go back and tackle it?

[@advnoobie6061]

Haha. Great question. The answer is no!! It psyched me out. I want to get a bit more practice before I try it again. Watch this space 😎😂

[@JimmyGlickster]

@@advnoobie6061 I’ve been where you are in that video and the sound advice I was given was shut your brain off, don’t overthink, and throttle up that hill like that is the only option. Sometimes it will not work out, but the vast majority of times it works out and your confidence goes up. Another piece of sound advice was trust in the bike “finding” the path…in other words, don’t fight the bike. With enough throttle and trusting in the dynamics of this amazingly built machine, you will get up these hills much easier.

[@lynndakay]

I was just riding a bicycle 🚴 through the green !

[@advnoobie6061]

Haha. Random but hope it was fun and a good mini adventure.

[@lynndakay]

@@advnoobie6061 it was thank you ! So I typed riding thru the green and I was recommended the video! Dope stuff

[@advnoobie6061]

@@lynndakay haha. Superb. I love that.

[@sullivansnortherncaliforni227]

When stuck like this, put it into rain mode and ride it up.

[@williamarango5289]

BRAVO ,BRAVO 👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️

[@mazoviaadv5536]

next time less air in the rubber, more momentum, holding bike with knees, and it will go

[@sullivansnortherncaliforni227]

too much tire pressure bro

[@johntavismealing]

You didnt try to stand up. That would of lightened it up enough to tread up hill slippery or not. Rider fault not bike

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks John- I was nervous to stand up by then but you are right! I think taking loads of air out of the rear would have made the biggest difference, plus mending my broken confidence.

[@bkhschoo1]

Everything above 180 kg is too heavy for solo offroad riding. Get a 690r fe701 or fe501 or exc500. Heck i have a fe350 and its the best solo adv bike i ever had. Evrn my old xt600e was way better. All that middle and big bike class adv bikes are marketing inventions.

[@advnoobie6061]

Thanks for sharing- we had a Weekend away off road on an 890R, T7, T6 and Africa Twin- faced some really challenging conditions but that is a big part of the fun- learning to ride these bigger bikes on challenging terrain then be able to ride home comfortably at motorway speeds as well as mashing some A roads.It's all personal choice and that's what's amazing about biking. Thanks for watching and have fun.

[@MrJamescord]

Not the easy way to lift a bike, there is a KZbin video of a 120 pound lady lifting a Harley Roadking easily- the correct method is key-

[@advnoobie6061]

Felt easy to me and I’ve tried several different ways. Works better for my back and legs.

[@MrJamescord]

@@advnoobie6061 when I dropped my 890 I thought I could pick it right up like my old 125! No way- I am to weak and old. I recalled how this young lady was showing how she easily lifted her Harley Road King off the pavement, and it came back to me, and I was able to quickly get the bike up. Hope I won't dump it too many more time. Enjoying your content!

[@russ4294]

The last thing I would have been concerned about was positioning the camera all the time. I would have been more focused on either getting up to the top or down to the bottom of the hill in one go.

[@advnoobie6061]

It gave me time to think and recover 😎😂. It was quite challenging but learned a lot. Learned even more from some of the great comments on here.

[@showmytime9177]

the bike it too damn tall! all ADV bikes are made for aliens, too tall or too heavy, sometimes both.

[@advnoobie6061]

Haha. So right but lower than enduro bikes! I’m 173cm talk and it’s k with the lower seat. You get used to it quickly.

[@showmytime9177]

@@advnoobie6061 body height does not count, only leg inseam. A friend of mine has the same height as me, but I can't saddle his Tenere 700 because I got shorter legs.

[@advnoobie6061]

@@showmytime9177 I find Teneres tall as well. And you are correct about inseam. I have pretty short legs 😂

[@crazyosva]

In this kind of conditions, I use traction control on my 790 R - helps a lot

[@advnoobie6061]

Yep. I learned that and wasn’t thinking straight at the time 😂. Thanks for watching.

[@NelsonXDF]

Traction control on slippery surface ? It’s not a good idea!

[@ender_wiggum]

@@NelsonXDF it is on the 890. The electronics on the bike are awesome in the slick stuff... you can dial in exactly how much slip you want with a knob, essentially. Would make this sort of thing easier for sure.

[@NelsonXDF]

@@ender_wiggum I’ve never rode a 890, but I say what awesome it is. Nevertheless, I disagree. TC would not help in that situation. It could help start bike’s movement, but very few meters ahead it would become a big problem. Motorbikes need to spin to gain momentum and go ahead on slippery surfaces. TC doesn’t allow spins. Candidly, I would suggest the pilot to enroll in an off-road course. So sorry, but the 890 seemed like a lantern guiding a blind man. I’ve already been like that, but I learnt after some falls and attending off-road courses as much as I can.

[@ender_wiggum]

@@NelsonXDF You are wrong in this case. TC on the 890 ____DOES ALLOW SPIN___. If you haven't ridden one, you don't know what you're talking about. The 890 has an adjustable traction control that allows different levels of wheel spin, so you can find the right amount of spin for the situation. I agree that a good rider can manage a hill like this without any traction control, but the fact is that the 890 traction control can make it possible for a less experienced rider. Here is a video demonstrating the 890 spinning the rear wheel with traction control turned on: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIKvmKiYmZ6caZY

[@JohnDoe-xm9ql]

Sloppy terrain....ice like.

[@advnoobie6061]

Sure was 😂.

[@georgeborz4406]

Sorry, but 890 doesn't too heavy, it's your skills too low for such off-road.

[@gladiadorso]

Hola y los subtitulos¡¡¡¡¡ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Saludos

[@rolfnette1549]

Hello nobbi, in these very difficult technical situations (at least for me) i use rally mode with abs and throttle set for offroad; the slip i modulate on the run according to "road condition". Maybe in this case something between 8 and 5 perhaps, for slippery hard surface. Good luck and try again . Very good and onest video- congratulations from tuscany, italy