Is the MEDIA PUSHING Josh Allen to be MVP OVER Lamar Jackson?

[@00ghostcobra]

Lamar Jackson doesn't have one interception that didn't bounce off of his receivers hands first.. He really should have zero picks.. Plus how do you fault Lamar Jackson for not going to the Super Bowl when Allen has never been there himself? That just sounds like a double standard..

[@AJCsr]

But Lamar b black...

[@delscott958]

That’s how it goes… We gotta be stellar for them to call us good. While they just gotta be good and then considered great. When you play their game and run to them for opportunity. You also have to deal with what comes along with that.

[@JayDMajor2]

JFC you have the IQ of a rock. You completely missed the point!!!!! The point was because Lamar has won 2 MVP's and not made a super bowl it is a harder hill for him to climb for this year's MVP than Allen who has 0 MVP's and 0 Super Bowl appearances. It's not a double standard. If it was reversed and Allen had 2 MVP's and Lamar had 0 the narrative would most likely be flipped. Could be wrong but there has never been an NFL player to win 3 mvp's before winning a super bowl Similarly in the NBA Jokic had 2 MVP's before never making a finals and then in 23 the media didn't want to give him a 3rd before he had more postseason accomplishments so it went to Embiid. THIS POINT WAS MADE IN THE VIDEO

[@MyPotnaB]

Bro really said dont use the stats that show Lamar is better in favor of other ones that help Josh 😂

[@orphy6869]

CHECK THE STATS , THEY'RE CLOSER THAN YOU THINK

[@punishergame]

Cant make it up.. dude literally disregarding all the stats that ppl use for mvp. These wh!te ppl what there king to win so bad. Lol

[@httrall-day4648]

I have the screen shot right here it’s not even close. Compare passing touchdowns. Allen only has more rushing touchdowns which running qb used to get frowned upon like Vick, Randall, Lamar and many others. Haters use rushing TD in Allen’s favorite. Lamar is mvp. Not close.

[@punishergame]

@httrall-day4648 fr. If lamar would have 11 rush tds they say that's not a qb Stat so we jot gonna put it in but now josh gotten they the best thing ever

[@httrall-day4648]

But we all know what time it is with these bias media folks. They're race fans not a fan of the NFL.

[@samcalven12]

This season the Bills won 5 games scoring 30 or more points with their opponent scoring only 10 points. In 4 of those games Josh Allen played some or all the minutes in the 4th quarter with the game already decide. Meanwhile Ravens have had 4 scoring 30 points or more games where the game was already decided Lamar sat out the 4th quarter for 3 of those games. Josh stat pads in 4th quarter and gets tush push tds. Lamar does his job gets his team the lead and chills for rest of the game. He did that last season too

[@AJCsr]

Exactly ! 😈

[@kdr5d]

The bills are 3-3 against teams above .500 and the ravens are 5-2

[@buyystocks]

@@kdr5d wow

[@SS2Hiro]

The Ravens have beaten 5 playoff teams with a chance to beat 7. The Bills only beat 3 teams above .500. The rest are middle of the pack or just awful. You can’t dismiss Lamar’s performances against bad teams like the Giants but let Josh slide with blowing out bad teams.

[@terrellgaskin6073]

💯 facts

[@MyPotnaB]

James Cook should sue Josh Allen for stealing all his 1yrd td’s

[@orphy6869]

ALLEN HAS MORE RUSHING TD'S FROM OUTSIDE THE 20 YARD LINE THAN ALL BUT ONE RB IN THE LEAGUE...DON'T BE CASUAL

[@HjjMaker]

@@orphy6869he has been taking td away from his rb that’s a fact

[@brandoisrael3155]

@@orphy6869😅😅😅😅😅 that’s fucking false!!!! Cook had 2 rushing touchdowns last season Josh Allen had 15 rushing last season with half of those were in the goal line 5 yards or less.

[@stanwilliams4030]

Exactly!!!

[@buyystocks]

@@orphy6869 these guys like to pick and choose only the positive on Lamar.

[@MyPotnaB]

“Ignore Lamars better numbers and the head to head win.” No. + Josh literally only has more wins because Justin Tucker been stinking it up

[@orphy6869]

FOR STARTERS ALLEN AND LameMar's STATS AREN'T THAT FAR OFF ALSO LETS NOT IGNORE THAT LameMar CANT BEAT HIS DIVISION RIVAL....LETS NOT IGNORE THE LameMar LOST TO THE RAIDERS AND CLEVELAND AND LETS NOT IGNORE THAT LameMar COULDN'T BEAT KC AND ALLEN BEAT THEM BY 2 SCORES....GTFOH

[@punishergame]

No one want to put the real context in. That n like the bills paid Stat for josh allen. Dude got 11 rush tds. Cuz the bills get to the 1 yrd linebn qb sneak it.. when ravens give the ball to Henry. Henry got 16 tds rushing at least half from the 1..

[@justinbellamy1399]

And Josh Allen went 9/30 against Houston like stop it

[@orphy6869]

@ Nobody cares about that but you

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869Let's also ignore the fact Lamar has sat out 3 fourth quarters this year and literally should have 0 ints because of drops.

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

The fact that they are trying very hard to give Josh Allen the MVP is suspicious considering Lamar is stocking up records among Tom Brady and Drew Breeze.

[@orphy6869]

maybe its because LameMar loses to the raiders and Cleveland and can't win his division

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869he has won the division 3 times next argument.

[@gregorysmith8570]

​@@orphy6869The AFC East is a joke 😂

[@kdr5d]

@@orphy6869Josh Allen plays in a very weak division! Lamar plays in the toughest division in football

[@orphy6869]

@ yet somehow Lamar lost to the raiders at home and Cleveland….Josh beat the #1 seed in the NFC and AFC…so you were saying??

[@gregorysmith8570]

Lamar is breaking records damn near every week!

[@havanascp9602]

And allen is making new nfl all time records lol. One more next week vs the pats. That would be 9 straight games with over 30 points. First ever to do that lol

[@samcalven12]

Lamar did beat Allen 35-10 and Allen went 9/30 the next game against the Texans.

[@punishergame]

@@samcalven12 crazy I gotta see this Stat on a KZbin comment and not on the ESPN .. they will never

[@thesedaze2381]

@@punishergame We can cherry pick games and show lamars stinkers.

[@AmenRaDarby]

@@samcalven12 with zero touchdowns in both games

[@arizona_anime_fan]

the raven game was without cook kincade and shakir, and a bunch of WRs allen had only played a few games with. his timing with them was terrible. the ravens sold out on the short passing game, daring JA to throw it deep, and he really struggled to connect with the motley crew of FA castoffs on vet min salaries he had to throw it to. Same thing against the texans. I even predicted the same result, that allen would struggle because the texans would ape what the ravens did to him, and without better chemistry with his WR crew he'd struggle to move the ball. and that's exactly what happened the following week. The reality is there were a lot of passes just off due to the poor timing/report he had with them. on the bright side, those two games sort of jumpstarted allen building chemistry with his vet min receiving room, and the bills as a team found their offensive identity almost immediately after. now i wouldn't worry about either the ravens or texans even slowing down JA, however the ravens at least do scare me against our shitty defense.

[@AmenRaDarby]

@ cook played, Shakir played and the tight end played. No excuse… all the wr’s and running back played

[@jacobstrouble6631]

Also, you said the Bills weren't playing as well when they played the Ravens as they are now. The Bills were 3-0 heading into that game and the Ravens were 1-2.

[@a.d.hutley3721]

Josh Allen had a fumble and had a concussion protocol… much like Lamar had to go through and scrutinize in the playoffs and in buffalo. If you’re going to pass information, be legitimate.

[@EMG-12]

Idk how anyone thought it wasn’t close between to in regards to stats. Lamar has been the number 1 qb in almost all we stats all year

[@thesedaze2381]

Last year Josh Allen had stats that DETROYED Lamar and his fans argued the exact opposite.

[@kevt7883]

​@thesedaze2381 you forgot the 25 turnovers Josh had 18 of them interceptions

[@thesedaze2381]

@kevt7883 You forgot to pay attention in math class. Josh Allen DID NOT have 25 turnovers in 2023. Check your number and dial again or ask an operator for assistance.

[@kevt7883]

@thesedaze2381 😆 🤣 😂 25 looks better than 22 bro!

[@thesedaze2381]

@kevt7883 Sometimes you have to man up and say "my bad, I was wrong"

[@Change4good7]

The way u makin this argument bro Lamar is by far better then Allen, alllen couldn’t play a hard team without Amari cooper or Stephon diggs, Lamar have done that the last 7 years 😂

[@MyPotnaB]

This pity MVP yall are pushing for Josh Allen is laughable.

[@orphy6869]

ALLEN WILL WIN IT...AND I HOPE YOU STAY MAD ABOUT IT

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869Lamar has won it 2 times already and you are still mad about it lol.

[@orphy6869]

@ I really don’t care, that’s history

[@drb5003]

Jeff Saturday is another one that shows you he doesn't like Lamar. PERIOD.🤡

[@nardg20]

@@orphy6869 Lamars playoff record is history but you always bring it up, funny how that works. Still mad Lamar has 2 MVPS to Allen's 0.

[@geraldjones7718]

Guess it only matters how u do in playoffs if u Lamar Jackson. Rodgers hasn't won a superbowl in 14 but got 3 MVP's

[@brandoisrael3155]

4 mvps

[@michaelcoletta4547]

Rodgers did win a super bowl

[@skylangford6083]

You forgot to mention that the Ravens also beat the Chargers in LA on Monday night who at the time was considered the number one ranked defense in the NFL

[@jacobstrouble6631]

Wait so the Ravens' win vs the Bills was because of Derrick Henry and we should ignore the fact Jackson had 2 tds ( 1 passing and 1 rushing) and Allen had none? Ok.

[@lennybeason1110]

Lamar has a better averages more yards per game! Plus the Ravens defense has been the worst between the 2 teams! Plus if Lamar didn’t have any TDs vs the Bills and Allen had 2 TDs then I could roll with you but the Bills were riding high offensively and were 3-0 so that’s big. Then Allen was 9/30 the next game and the Bills won despite how bad Allen played. Lamar doesn’t have a game like that on his record!

[@antoniowilliams9440]

Josh's O-line is way better as well. The national media has been sayin' he was MVP goin' into the Ravens game. Mind you the Ravens "best the brakes off" the Bills in week 4 for perspective. The Secondary was absolute @$$ then. Since then we have both Safeties *NOT* even playin' anymore. Eddie Jackson & Marcus Williams, respectively. The former cut & latter healthy scratches. Thus the pass defense has been *EXPONENTIALLY* better, obviously.

[@httrall-day4648]

Yep, the media trying very hard to push Allen to win something. If he needs that much help speaks for itself. Lamar is being Lamar without the media. Says a lot. Stats speaks for itself. Enuff said.

[@AJCsr]

Exactly ! Media figuring out new ways to look at stats, to get Josh over the MVP line. Same media got a trash Lamar story every week, to boost their own ratings clicks !

[@httrall-day4648]

@@AJCsr Facts, it all boils down to "RACE FANS" instead of NFL fans. I'm a fan of the league, but yeah, "HTTC-ALL DAY". But I can see that media false narrative as they want so bad to have a great white QB to become the best in the league. Well, those days are behind us, far gone. Brady, Manning, Dan the Man, and Young days are behind us. Mahome, Lamar, Burrow, Allen, and CJ time are now, and I can add Goff and Hurts. It just sucks always hearing, -Oh, Josh Allen is amazing, he's outta this world, he's so great and this and that", like he's the only player in the league. Mahomes is in a league of his own and that's so obvious. Lamar and Burrow are both better than Allen, hands down....

[@AngieCarr]

First off, great job breaking down and dissecting the current MVP race. However…………..I do feel that context should be used on both sides not just one. 1. Yes, D. Henry did go off that game and would’ve been the MVP based on his performance. But, we’re comparing Lamar and Josh and head to head the more “pure” QB could score a single TD while the “RB” scores 2 passing. How does that not factor in. 2. You stated that Lamar has tougher games than Lamar down the stretch. Well, do we consider the level of difficulty in schedule? Cause if we’re using College references then would the AFC North be considered the SEC while AFC East is considered Mountain Conference? Yes, you don’t choose the teams you play but you also shouldn’t overhype the more dominant team for winning. The same way everyone is passing off Lamar’s recent win over the Giants. Josh has the benefit of play trash teams 6x throughout the course of this season where Lamar is legit having to compete against multiple above 500 teams. Shit even Burrows numbers are comparable to Josh’s and his team sucks right now. Who’s Josh dominating, a CTE ridden Tua, a team in NE that can’t find a win to save their life and a very end of the road looking A. Rod that is busy blaming everyone else on talk shows than show up and take accountability. Josh has been playing great these past couple games but Lamar has been playing great all season. We’re looking at a sample size versus a total body of work.

[@brandoisrael3155]

Let’s talk about those 3 interceptions? Let’s talk about how Henry is having a career high in TDS and Lamar not doing a qb draw or a qb sneak on 1st and 3 or 1st and 1! The Ravens give the ball to the Running Backs in the redzone especially at the 5 yard line! Context is everything especially when it comes to stats like rushing TDS that the same people that likes to discredit Hurts for getting rushing tds. Lamar had 3 tds with 0 turnovers 200+ total yards 135 passer rating, QBR 56.1 13/18 for 156 that’s 72 completion percent. You want to use the QBR Josh Allen had a QBR score of 27.8 and passer rating of 73.9 Josh Allen 16/27 180 0 TDS 59.7 completion percentage. Yes Henry had a monster game and if Lamar wasn’t there and they had any other qb back there Bills would have won the game so let’s cut that Notion about it was Derrick that game when it was really Lamar. Lamar’s EPA is at 140 😅😅😅😅 that’s crazy of each loss the Ravens have had nothing to do with how bad Lamar played. Allen has 2 bad losses. The last loss was a gimmicky stat padding type of performance 😅I feel bad for James Cook dude had almost 1200 yards rushing last season with only 2tds lol😅 his team rather let Allen get the glory the feed the guy that’s averaged 4.8 yards a carry.

[@oblivionpro69]

Postseason stats Allen vs Lamar Passer Rating- Allen 100, Lamar 75 TD/INT- Allen 21/4 Lamar 6/6 Record- Allen 5-5 Lamar 2-4

[@Dimezprod]

What round of the playoffs has Allen been to Lamar hasn’t?

[@oblivionpro69]

​@Dimezprod So by your logic Joe Burrow clears Jackson, do you agree with that? Because I don't even think that. Allen's has 5 win to Lamar's 2, if it was the other way around Lamar fans would be gloating about it. You know the Ravens were a Josh Allen way from winning the Superbowl last year right? All Lamar had to do was score more than 17, Allen would've done that in his sleep, he's done it MANY many times.

[@Dimezprod]

@@oblivionpro69 So why didn’t Allen go to the Super Bowl himself? But first you need to contextualize things before slandering. Zay flowers fumbled a whole 6 points that could’ve won them the game. That’s 24 points. You randomly put playoff stats when it has nothing to do with the mvp.

[@sfteevee8303]

Lamar is trash in the playoffs and has derrick Henry. Josh has beaten the Chiefs and lions with 5th rounders. This is over.

[@oblivionpro69]

@Dimezprod It's absolutely related to the MVP because giving a guy a 3rd MVP puts him in a rare category that Lamar flat out doesn't belong in based on his playoff failures, and that's just on top of the fact that Allen has a better argument atm. Flowers did fumble it but Lamar fumbled it, threw it into triple coverage, and missed more easy throws than he probably missed the whole regular season combined... that's a chokejob. The NFL posted the whole game and I watched it again, he was even worse than I remembered. Starting at the beginning of the 2nd Qtr he just started missing everything. Go watch it yourself. And you other question? Allen's defenses have given up 15PPG more in the playoffs than in the regular season, a McDermott chokejob, that's why.

[@zoinks933]

as a lamar guy also bring up strength of schedule which lamar has obviously had worse and plays in a far tougher division. Also the fact that lamar has to play near perfect every game even against trashcans since their defense has been sooo atrotious this year. not saying that the bills defense is even good but the ravens are just 1.9 ppg less then the bills but the bills have a point differential thats 2nd in the league which is 49 points higher then the ravens point differential. Not only that the ravens havent been blown out the point differential in their losses this year have been -4.4 while the bills have a -10 point differential avg in losses(I do understand there is less data so its more skewed ). Lamar keeps games competetive no matter and has been un believeably consistent even in losses but allen has had a few games where he just couldnt get things going like in the head to head and against the texans. Also Lamar has the bigger chances to prove himself in the next 2 games especially if he can pull out convincing wins even if allen blows out the jets and pats my mvp vote would remain with Action Jackson.

[@onpoint8645]

Lamar ain't even the MVP of his own team 😂😂😂

[@anrob1865]

The bills have only beaten 2 teams over .500. Yes it was Kansas City and Detroit

[@E-Money1130]

You better talk about it.

[@orphy6869]

AND LameMar lost to the raiders and Cleveland🤣🤣🤣

[@davidpetrosky]

Ravens have beaten 5 teams with a winning record.

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869And Josh Allan has no MVPS 😂😂😂

[@buyystocks]

@@orphy6869 shhhh lol

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

I didn’t care about Lamar winning another MVP but when they are trying rushing to gift it to Josh Allen, now I want Lamar to win it all. Lamar could clinch his division with bottom defence. 😅.

[@orphy6869]

Allen>LameMar and its not even close

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869you are right especially for most turnovers ,next argument again.

[@AJCsr]

Last year, it was Lamar playing against the MVP frontrunner every week. Then every week, Lamar whooped dey asses too ! 🤣 It should have been his second unanimous MVP ! But for one dufus who voted for an underwhelming Josh Allen, who wasn't even in the top 5 MVP conversation ! So if anyone owes anyone an MVP, it sure isn't Lamar owing one to Josh !

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

If Josh Gets it, MVP will loose it’s value. Talk about the difference in Passer rating 😅

[@orphy6869]

Lets talk about how Lamear can't win his division, Lets also talk about how LameMar lost games at home to the raiders or to Cleveland🤣🤣🤣

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869let's talk about how Allen went 9/31 passing 😂😂😂 and lost to the Texans who Lamar has never lost to and Lamar has 2 MVPS to Josh 0 😂😂😂😂.

[@theindiansquidward7170]

Lamar Jackson has more fumbles because he runs more look how many more rushing yards 😭ints are the correct stat to use

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

If I am Josh Allen and they gave me the MVP, I will refuse.

[@orphy6869]

when Josh wins it I hope you stay mad forEVER

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869about time he won one he will still be one short of Lamar tho and you will stay mad lol.

[@Ang3l-of-M3rcy]

@@nardg20 He dose not deserve to mvp, why. Lamar numbers are better.

[@punishergame]

So happy no one would see this . Only 100 something views. Shows you your takes are not good n u shouldn't probably be talking sports. Lets ignore all the individual players stats n focus on the team... yea cuz the mvp a team award . Smh yall want josh to win it so bad yall just start saying anything

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

All your arguments for Josh is, except winning records, is suspect

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

Booooooo booooo this guy. Don’t be sneaky. Just come out and say You love Josh 😂😂😂

[@tesla3695]

just come out and admit you'd swallow lamar's nut.

[@truthbetold9257]

Josh Allen has a bunch of one yard TDs like Hurts! QB sneaks from the goal line should be eliminated. Clearly Lamar Jackson is MVP! They just don't want lamar to have 3 MVPs and Allen, Burrow have zero and Mahommes have 2! This is similar to the full on league effort to stop Jalen Hurts from getting MVP by stat padding with mahommes on 3 yard TD passes! 27 TDs inside the 5 yard line! And then cheat for mahommes against Denver and Tennessee that year because those bad losses would've given Hurts the trophy! The league did not want that so they intervened and they convinced everyone that a man throwing 27TD passes from the 2 yard line was the MVP!

[@021Richoo]

Josh Allen Went 9/30 131 yards against the Texans. Tht game alone ended his MVP talks

[@stanwilliams4030]

Dude, you tripping! Lamar is clearly the MVP, so stop! I'm out!

[@professorwalkdown5357]

All them damn 1yrd Td runs from Josh

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

Dude, you sound more like Josh Allen fan. Your reasoning is flawed

[@orphy6869]

LameMar is trash and folds in the playoffs...cant win his division and loses to 2 last place teams....TRASH

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869if Lamar is trash and won 2 MVPS what does that say about Allen who has never won anything but most turnovers in a season lol 😆 😂 🤣

[@tedrickboxley4122]

Mvp is a season award not a 4 game strech award. Lamar has been more consistent throughout the season where josh has had some terrible 9 for 30 games.

[@Justaduck-u3o]

Two biggest factors against Lamar; Henry and expectations. Nearly half of Lamars yards are off play-action. 20 % of Allens are on play-action. You can watch the impact Henry has in playaction as not only do linebackers bite hard, safeties cheat as well, which creates huge voids in the defense. James Cook doesnt provide that, backers rarely cheat against Buffalo, and if they do its on Allen. Lamar's recievers are averging 7 yards of seperation per completion. Allens recievers are averging just under 2 yards of seperation per completion. Lamar's completion percentage when his recievers have less than two yards of seperation is 38%, Allen's is 60%. The highest completion percentage Lamar has ever had in a season where his recievers have less than 2 yards of seperation is 42%, Allens lowest was 44% which was his rookie year. Since his second year Allen leads the league in completion percentage when his recievers have less than 2 yards of seperation at 59%. Those stats have nothing to do with anything excpet to showcase Allens arm talent over Lamars. Lamar is a freak of nature, and so is Allen, just in different ways. The Ravens average record prediction across the board for nfl analysts at ESPN was 14-3 and were the Frontrunner over the Chiefs to finish with the best record. They had the best odds at winning the Super bowl(which they still have an excellent chance), and they had the 2nd highest rated roster. Buffalos record prediction was 9-8, and some "experts" even predicted them to go 4-13. they were expected to finish 3rd in the division and miss the playoffs. They had the 24th rated roster in the NFL. Behind teams like the Bears, jags, and saints. True fans can recognize greatness, casual enjoyers of the game call nfl players Trash. Im just excited that any given game I watch, may have a must watch guy at the helm.

[@httrall-day4648]

After hearing the first 11 mins I’m checking out. Man could imagine if Allen beat Lamar what the narrative would be??? Oh they had a head to head game and Allen beat Lamar so yeah means everything. That’s what the narrative would be. Man U have issues. Buffalo had an easier schedule. Very easy. Smh. Lamar is mvp and stats don’t lie and that beat down Lamar put on Allen doesn’t lie either.

[@gregorysmith8570]

What has Josh Allen won except the weak AFC East.

[@kizzlejohnson2705]

Exactly.... They wishing and hoping Josh can get MVP.... But we know the real MVP it's MV3 💪💯

[@drb5003]

Remember ESPN Dan Orlovsky, Mina Kimes, Teddy Bruschi are 3 of the 50 voters for MVP.🤔

[@joeyh9116]

Nobody gives a shit about Allen’s Tush push TD’s while Lamar is throwing dots in the end zone.

[@Sammy-h1b]

You conveniently missed the fact that 13 defensive players for the Lions didn't play and they lost 3 more during the game. The Lions had no defense that game.

[@professorwalkdown5357]

Josh has played way more game minutes. When the ravens are up big Lamar sits . When bills are up big Josh stat pads.

[@geraldjones7718]

The most important thing is Lamar had 2 play harder teams all year

[@AJCsr]

How about this stat ? Whenever Lamar gets to the 5 yard line he hands the ball to a runningback. Whenever Josh gets there he pads his TD stat by running the ball himself ! That will get you 5 or 6 more TD's per season...

[@paulnjoro667]

Lamar numbers speak for themselves from the beginning of the season, Josh Allen has some great games but Lamar Stats has been consistent great.👍🏽

[@adamaltvater1764]

Allen beat an injury riddled 49ers team in the snow in Buffalo and a injury riddled lions defense

[@draethereum]

OK, so lets do this: ** Completion %: Lamar 68.1%, Allen 64.4% ** Passing Yards: Lamar 3580, Allen 3395 ** Pass Yards/Attempt: Lamar 8.9, Allen 8 ** Passing TDs: Lamar 34, Allen 25 ** Interceptions: Lamar 3, Allen 5 ** Passer Rating: Lamar 120.7, Allen 103.5 ** Rushing Yards: Lamar 743, Allen 484 ** Rush Yards/Attempt: Lamar 6.4, Allen 5.3 ** Total Touchdowns: Lamar 37, Allen 36 ** Perfect Passer Ratings this season: Lamar 1, Allen 0 ** Total Offense: Lamar 4186, Allen 3818 ** Touchdown %: Lamar 8.4%, Allen 5.9% ** Passing Touchdown/Interception Ratio: Lamar 11.3, Allen 5 ** 5+ Passing Touchdown Games: Lamar 2, Allen 0 ** 5+ Total Touchdown Games: Lamar 2, Allen 1 ** Offensive player of the week awards this season: Lamar 3, Allen 2 ** 4th Quarter Comebacks: Lamar 2, Allen 0 ** Bad Throw %: Lamar 14.1%, Allen 18.4% ** Head to Head this season: Lamar 1, Allen 0 (Allen was so bad against the Ravens bottom ranked defense that he got replaced towards the end of the game) -- TEAM record: Allen 11-3, Lamar 9-5 (keep in mind, Tucker missed an insane amount of field goals that would have won them multiple games, but i'll ignore that fact just to give Allen a point here) -- Fumbles Lost: Allen 2, Lamar 5 -- Rushing Touchdowns: Allen 11, Lamar 3 -- QBR: Allen 79.3, Lamar 76 Offensive player of the month award this season: Lamar 1, Allen 1 Every stat maked with a ** is where lamar is ahead of Allen, stats marked with a -- is where Allen is ahead of Lamar. Tell me how Josh Allen is better and deserves the MVP? In what world does that make any sense.

[@Dimezprod]

Exactly

[@anrob1865]

Hey let’s ignore there record since that’s a team stat

[@vainexp3481]

The bills were undefeated when they played the ravens...they were playing good ball...and the ravens beat them...

[@Black-qm6ni]

Baggage??!! You’re so obvious…. 2 MVP’s are baggage??!!

[@MrKongjah]

that's too many ifs when it comes to buffalo. you can play that game with any team. so josh gets a prize cause josh hasnt had one cause neither has a sb.

[@xWuZaAx]

yea? And last year Josh destroyed Lamar's stats and Lamar still won. So this conversation is entirely moot.

[@RavensFlock9592]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again Josh Allen can’t lace Lamar Jackson clients. There are levels to this and Josh is a level below Lamar.

[@stanwilliams4030]

Dude, anybody can score on the one yard line! That's why he has 11 rushing TDs

[@dianewilliams1414]

They beat a lot of teams .The Ravens kicked their ASS!!

[@petedavenport1895]

Are you going to add lamar almost 800 yards rushing with his passing yards 3600🤔

[@AmenRaDarby]

Well one candidate beat the dog shaaat out of the other candidate this year. So the losing candidate shouldn’t win if you’re comparing stats and their head to head should be considered.

[@keithgreene3746]

Really Bro. , sounds like you have a vote for Josh Allen. Just go ahead and give it JOSH. NOW, no Stat matters, take the stats away for Lamar and ad other categories for Josh, TRANSPARENT

[@buffer2k494]

At least compare the strength of schedules instead of talking about the ravens strongest opponents. The bills did beat KC and the Lions, but they have had an overall easier schedule and Josh has less impressive numbers. Lamar has faced stronger opponents AND has put up more numbers.

[@kdr5d]

Lamar had 3 touchdowns against the Bills

[@chrischilds368]

Lamar has been the best player in the league. If Allen has any hiccups along the way the MVP will go to Lamar.

[@kingroyalty9621]

It’s not close ….Take out all the Stush push touchdowns & then talk to Lamar !

[@sfteevee8303]

Josh has beaten the chiefs and lions. He is MVP.

[@huntermorris7421]

Have we compared the strength of schedule? I know there is a large discrepancy there. Would the Bills be 11-3 if they played a healthy chiefs, Steelers, Bengals twice, Bucs, Eagles, Broncos, and Chargers? Maybe but not as likely. Ravens will have played every single AFC playoff team by year's end in addition to the NFC #2 seed (possible #1 seed).

[@NeilGonzalez-cl3jh]

Well Raven beat the Bills convincingly in week 4, but I still give it to Josh Allen. IMHO

[@arizona_anime_fan]

First of all -> i don't care about the mvp. I want a superbowl win, i'm also a bills fan. Here is my opinion for what it's worth. LJ deserved his first MVP, easily one of the greatest seasons of football i've ever seen. he did not deserver the second. last year there really wasn't a good option for MVP, Lamar sort of got a pity mvp last year because brock purdy and tua both melted down in the home stretch. In reality in a year with no obvious MVP it should have been a hell of a lot more competitive yet for some reason the media went all in on Jackson. The most statistically impressive QB of last year was probably josh allen. Even with his turnovers. but the bills weren't a top seed so i get why Lamar would win the MVP. This year i think if everything was equal Saquan probably should be the frontrunner. That said. It's becoming a bit of a clown shown that JA hasn't won an MVP yet (frankly it's embaressing the types of numbers he's been putting up the highest he came in mvp voting was no.2, to an aaron rogers who padded his stats all year by throwing TDs on the 1 yard line). when you look at the past 4 years he's lapped the whole league in output. putting up historic numbers in the air and on the ground. seasons of consistent production even manning and brady couldn't produce. for the past 4 years he had ended the season with a combined 40+ TDs and a min of a combined 4800 yards of offense (passing and rushing). only like 2 players in league history have one season like that, josh has done it 4 years straight. This is peak cam newton numbers, but instead of one season like this he's now going on 5 straight years (it will be 5 years assuming he doesn't get shut down by the jets and pats to end the year). He's over 35 total TDs and 4000 yards (total) with 3 games remaining to put some of the nonsense he's doing into perspective. against the rams he had 6TDs, 3 rushing, 3 passing. he did this without being sacked or intercepted (or fumbled). against the lions he finished with 4tds, 2 rushing 2 passing. he did this without being sacked or intercepted (or fumble). against the 49ers he had 3tds, no sacks, fumbles or interceptions. he has taken a team with a bunch of free agent castoffs, a couple of late rounders and one first round player (Kincade) to the no.2 offense in the league. He has no probowlers at any skill position on this team. Shakir and Cook probably will be probowlers at least once in their career. but right now, nothing. Lamar has been very good this year, but crushing the giants, a 2 win football team isn't in the same class as beating the lions on their home turf. Again, i don't really care about who wins the MVP, frankly I thought the mvp talk for JA was really out of line most of the year. It wasn't till the last 3 weeks i started to think "yeah this is an MVP season). Frankly the last thing i'd want is Josh winning a joke mvp like Lamar got last year. Personally I'd be happy with Lamar winning the MVP again this year if it gave the bills a superbowl victory. But baring some sort of karmic wheel of fate that can make that trade a reality i'll just say, JA will probably win the MVP, and Saquan probably should win it, unless JA really goes off these last 3 weeks (he won't, the bills are usually content to run the ball and eat clock when they're beating bottom feeders, not desperately pass for numbers like Lamar did last week against the hapless giants). I'd also like to note that the media hate wagon lamar and josh get is sorta unreal. And that Ravens fans gotta get that chip off their shoulder about it. at least the media voted lamar the MVP twice, even if he didn't really deserve the second one. Just take that and be happy that even if the media is unfair to lamar, they still recognize his greatness (and he's a great guy too). personally i wish the league would push Lamar like they push mahomes... atleast lamar is a good person, Mahomes is surounded by awful people which makes me wonder about him.

[@kingroyalty9621]

What did I just watch 😂😂😂😂 Lamar and it’s not close

[@michaelbryan3515]

Kinda funny you don't wanna strictly compare them as a passer and want to include rushing when everyone knocks lamar for running lol... they are QUARTERBACKS!!! Lets stick to the passing

[@jimmyb267]

Jackson lost to the Chiefs and the Eagles who are two playoff teams. Plus he lost to the Raiders and Browns who both stink and dropped one, so far, to the Steelers. He also has the most dominant RB in the game to take the pressure off him. Allen beat the Chiefs, 9ers, Lions and has not lost a division game.

[@freewifi7163]

Man Josh Allen has never made a Super Bowl 🙄. Also JetsX2, Dolphins X2, and PatriotsX2 smh. I really don’t care if they give it to Josh. If Lamar wins the next three and Allen loses one. I would think Lamar would be back in the lead.

[@georgeturner301]

I pray Lamar pays little or NO! attention, WHAT SO EVER to this MVP nonsense. Just keep playin'!

[@juiceman4109]

Josh Allen had a turnover vs the Ravens, strip sack by KVN

[@havanascp9602]

Yeah they are. Just like they did last year for lamar with averge numbers lol

[@Mrfantastic-hp2en]

😂😂😂 Lamar Jackson plays in the toughest division in football lets get that out the way josh Allen plays in weak division none of them teams are making the playoffs josh Allen was playing so bad they went in got amari Cooper Lamar Jackson is clearly the front runner the players knows what's up with Lamar Jackson mv3

[@garysmithjr2166]

Well just to let u know the mvp is not based off of the last few weeks but the entire 17 week season and lamar has played better football than josh. But to your point of the Bill's beating the chiefs well lamar beat the Bill's. And since u didnt watch the game let me just let u in on something henry would not have been the mvp of the game and he is not the reason they won. As a matter of fact henry had 20 something runs and was getting stopped and just happened to break the 80yrd run AT THE END OF THE GAME and up until that point YES IT WAS LAMAR WHO JUST OUT PLAYED JOSH and I can tell you didnt watch the game or u would have known the game was over before henry broke it for that long run which was pretty much all henry did. He was not getting chunk plays or anything. That game was won on lamars arm. So that's a stat that's very misleading. In fact that's how it has been this entire season, henry not doing shit until the 4th qtr where he breaks one for 60 or more yrds but up until that point lamar is wheeling and dealing and then everyone see henry had 100yrds and saying that's why they won and that couldnt be further from the truth. So get your facts right and you said stats are misleading and then proceed to use a very misleading stat to support your claim that its Allen when we all know what it is. Lamar has always been the best QB, pat has always had the best coached team not the best QB and josh has always been left out regardless of how much the media try's to put him as the 2nd best QB when he maybe 3rd behind pat cus lj8 is the best QB in the league but josh has nothing while Pat's WELL COACHED TEAM is winning rings AND LJ8 IS WINNING MVPS it leaves josh with nothing and "THEY" REALLY want josh to have something at this point when the truth is yea lj8 out played him when they played and if u not using that then u cant use the last 2 weeks to give anything to josh because the award is based on the ENTIRE SEASON AND JOSH HASNT BEEN PLAYING GREAT ALL SEASON YET LAMAR HAS AND HIS DEFENSE HAS LET THEM DOWN AND AT TIMES THIS SEASON JOSH HAS LET HIS TEAM DOWN. THE MVP IS LAMARS BASED ON THE SEASON. ITS NOT THE MVP OF THE LAST 3 WEEKS AND MAYBE U SHOULD WRITE THE NFL A LETTER TO SEE IF THE COULD START GIVING OUT 3 WEEK MVPS. BUT AS OF NOW ITS BASED ON THE SEASON AND I WATCH EVERY SINGLE GAME. ITS LAMAR. AND WASHINGTON IS MY TEAM NOT THE RAVENS

[@mega1media124]

Bills play in the easiest division 😂 why don’t you mention this. Josh Allen has never made a Super Bowl either 😂 how don’t you mention this??? 😂

[@mega1media124]

Bro lol your just as bias as the media. How about you factor in how many tush push”s account for Allen’s running touchdowns? Advanced stats state Lamar has the worst kicker and o line and secondary. Passer rating and completion does matter lol. Lamar had 3 touchdowns in the head to head matchup. Henry had 2 touchdowns and Lamar had 3 lol your just as bias bro. He out played Lamar 3 tds to 0. And you don’t want to mention how Allen went 9/30, that’s an mvp ? Don’t bring up the lions lol Lamar spanked them worst last year.

[@emmanuelgatewood7599]

So because allen sucked and got blew out so we wasnt passing its a knock on jackson who still went 13 of 18 and 3 overall tds...if allen made the game close we wouldv passed more then wat would his numbers been that game

[@jordanzantt4770]

Ravens were 1and 2 bills were 3 and 0 and the ravens beat allen with lamar scoring one passing one rushing allen had nothing !!! Allen has played 6 under .500 teams lamar has played 6 teams over .500. Meanwhile allen has never made the super bowl either and you forgot that farve and rogers won 3 mvps and no super bowl .so dismiss me with that .your bias and blind

[@adamaltvater1764]

Bills play in the weakest division and a cake schedule outside of chiefs and lions

[@trell25]

You saying everything is misleading & that’s just not true. It’s your opinion I get that. But that stuff actually matters.

[@chrisjackson3955]

Bottom line Allen is doing alot more with way less talent . Give me a break

[@MyPotnaB]

Re: Video header Yes.

[@orphy6869]

Stay so mad sally

[@abdihassan328]

Are you surprised, bro

[@tonys273]

The lions defense was depleted…ijs..do ya research

[@buyystocks]

lmao

[@fy4b230]

Let the season finish. Why are you deciding now? Last season MVP wasn’t decided until after Xmas. It’s too close to decide right now especially since Lamar has 2 huge games this week. If the Ravens win the AFC north (that would mean they win out) he should be the MVP. Ravens are a wildcard team then nope. “The college football rankings” Dude look at the schedules. Ravens have had the 2nd hardest schedule of all 32 teams and a better record against playoff/winning teams than the Bills. Just stop you look pretty dumb ngl.

[@AceAlmost-m5f]

All your arguments for Josh is, except winning records, is suspect

[@orphy6869]

stay mad sally

[@nardg20]

​@@orphy6869 If the Ravens lost to 2 last place teams but beat the Bills what doest that say about Josh Allen 😂😂😂 .

[@Black-qm6ni]

I don’t like anything this, u suck