Is the New Lectron Carburetor any Good? Billetron 38 Install & FIRST RIDE!

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Jeff Walker

Jeff Walker

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@JeffWalker84
@JeffWalker84 3 жыл бұрын
LOL at me for inserting "Basic Title" at 6:50. Who lets this guy edit his own videos? Also, I ride like an absolute turd until about the 10min mark. These conditions were tough to warm up on. My apologies haha
@ssse3123
@ssse3123 3 жыл бұрын
Basic comment
@Hopper_313
@Hopper_313 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you didn’t notice yet. Darn!!
@VZBOYY
@VZBOYY 3 жыл бұрын
haha just came up the that part
@benjaminboshaw8858
@benjaminboshaw8858 3 жыл бұрын
She was a thick one for sure, then it started raining.
@HoustonPB32
@HoustonPB32 3 жыл бұрын
aye if you need an editor i gotchu
@JeffWalker84
@JeffWalker84 3 жыл бұрын
okay I won't lie, my neck and back are feeling that crash. Ya boy is getting old XD
@TLMX722
@TLMX722 3 жыл бұрын
Haha man i know it hurts but we take the risk😉. Keep shredding man ur doing great!
@northernmx5973
@northernmx5973 3 жыл бұрын
Oh just wait till your late 30's crashes haha!
@bknoxx
@bknoxx 3 жыл бұрын
lol sorry to laugh man but i just smoked a joint so lol .. always glad to see 2 stroke content back.. shame about the other one... ive been debating the new one for my YZ .. guess im getting one
@xXGunsForShowXx
@xXGunsForShowXx 3 жыл бұрын
I used to say- your not trying hard enough if you dont crash once in a while
@woodysrockspyro6436
@woodysrockspyro6436 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah 42 here.. might have crashed harder than that at the dunes a couple weeks back. Didn't hurt the body much but did lose a little memory for awhile. 😬
@georgewarshington1230
@georgewarshington1230 3 жыл бұрын
If you are a racer and you know you're racing one track, at one elevation, at one temperature, learning how to become a carb wizard is a competitive advantage. but for myself - someone who grew up riding trails from 1500-4500 in whatever weather you got that day, we ran rich to be safe and i never once had the privilege of running a perfectly jetted carb. 2nd gear into 3rd had a very specific bog that i knew how to double clutch the rpms out of on a dead sprint. the first time i ran my bike with an lectron i almost died clicking into 3rd when the front wheel shot off the ground and the power band ripped my face off. it made the throttle more responsive in every single gear (almost too responsive at first) and it completely changed my muscle memory of exploiting the clutch to get off bottom. for a trail rider that doesn't want to or have the time to tear down a carb it's the best thing for a 2 stroke since they turned the shocks the other way around. 1/4 throttle and 3/4 throttle feel like very different things now. weirdly i feel the bike has more compression to kick but is easier to start. Could just be because of the fresh top end around the time the lectron was installed, but in my experience even cold i rarely use the choke to kick the bike over. i'm no rocket surgeon just my experience. it's now a must have for me
@thomasphilyaw8593
@thomasphilyaw8593 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't bogging at all in the turns this time. Unbelievable straight out of the box and it worked flawless!!! Love the 2 stroke
@Jake_Hamlin
@Jake_Hamlin 3 жыл бұрын
grabbing clutch 2 or 3 times in the corners, hes not letting it bog if you ask me, there is a big difference in its idle and how it doesnt hang revs now tho
@ragedemon6513
@ragedemon6513 Жыл бұрын
@@Jake_Hamlinyou’re very slow
@ribbledean4111
@ribbledean4111 3 жыл бұрын
If every pro had Jeff’s positivity an enthusiasm racing would be so much better than it is, I can appreciate him sharing all his knowledge with us! Thanks Jeff your the man!!!
@TwistedTriggerEnduro
@TwistedTriggerEnduro 3 жыл бұрын
Idling better and doesn't hang as long. Sounds like a great change. Also, the "basic title" popping up made me smile. I use Davinci Resolve and I'm sure that's gonna happen me too. Might have already lol Thanks for posting. 💪
@HaydenDunbar
@HaydenDunbar 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@VZBOYY
@VZBOYY 3 жыл бұрын
wait you and jeff use davinci? yo same. davinci resolve gang 😎
@TwistedTriggerEnduro
@TwistedTriggerEnduro 3 жыл бұрын
@@VZBOYY I only knew because when I use a "basic text" and forget to go back and add text, that's what it says. Davinci is epic, I play with a lot of the features in my vids. Would reccomend 100%
@VZBOYY
@VZBOYY 3 жыл бұрын
@@TwistedTriggerEnduro i use it to make cursed dark humour discord memes and yt videos lmao
@williamsnow417
@williamsnow417 3 жыл бұрын
Also use davinci Lol
@constant_evolution_genetic478
@constant_evolution_genetic478 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge 2 stroke fan for life, but please don't take your eye off the prize with the race bike I want to see you in some mains this year
@dr00andrew
@dr00andrew 3 жыл бұрын
2 stroke will help his tecnhique out a lot. next time he hops on a 250f itll be a cakewalk for him. carson brown and luke renzland qualified for motos this year on 2 strokes. maybe jeff will do the same
@blakebuwamd8343
@blakebuwamd8343 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr00andrew Luke renzland came 20th in one of the motos on a 125
@Brap.Bryant
@Brap.Bryant 3 жыл бұрын
Day 37 of Cheering on Jeff: GO JEFF!
@tamapahoregorman5804
@tamapahoregorman5804 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, your very fast at commenting haha
@nexusdemon8141
@nexusdemon8141 3 жыл бұрын
Day 1 of cheering Brap on: GO BRAP!
@cliffythevwnerd8354
@cliffythevwnerd8354 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yes go Jeff!
@tamapahoregorman5804
@tamapahoregorman5804 3 жыл бұрын
@@nexusdemon8141 I'm on around day 10 😂
@aaroncrain2343
@aaroncrain2343 3 жыл бұрын
@@nexusdemon8141 Day 1 of cheering on Nexus: GO NEXUS
@ASR_13
@ASR_13 3 жыл бұрын
I switched to Lectron when you did your cr125 video and I’ve never looked back. Never have to worry about jetting just get on the bike and go. Also they have very great customer support if you ever have any questions.
@Kevin-md7mc
@Kevin-md7mc 3 жыл бұрын
Are you planning to do a lap time comparison between this 2banger and 450?
@niklassandvik9111
@niklassandvik9111 3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice too see some third person footage of that! You have to bring Bridget out with the camera next time!
@michaelheiss4456
@michaelheiss4456 8 ай бұрын
I like how cleanly your bike runs right from the get go and all over the track . I'm old school and would use my Altimeter and Air Density Gauge and Barometer for the different Altitudes and Weather conditions and carry various jets to setup my carburetor . My buddies always wondered why my bike ran so good . Man , that Lectron Carburetor sure took the guess work out of the Carburetor adjustment's . I knew they were really good , but I didn't know they are that darn good . Thank you , Jeff for sharing your experience and video on the awesome carburetor from Lectron . I like your riding style too . Pin it and ride like you stole it ! You blew away every bike on the track .
@mikebrown41182
@mikebrown41182 3 жыл бұрын
I am going to order one for my special project build chevy kawi kx 250 two stroke. It seems like the consensus by listening to riders that can squeeze two strokes to their potential well simply just agrees on increase performance. Not saying stock Carbs can be good properly jetted. And obviously a dyno can give you great numbers and what not, but actually feeling the bike out on the track throttle connection and how it performs is in the end my justification for getting one. And yeah some great bike builds for example (luczaks) and Seelys has been paired with a lectron and in connection to some of the best engine tuners in the buiss have produced great engines with the lectrons together with heavy engine modifications aswell. Yeah it looks sexy aswell. I guess the new bottom end makes the analog to the feel of the standard carbs more than the H series? But i might be wrong there. Great ride and video 👌🏼
@geckolord0337
@geckolord0337 3 жыл бұрын
Nasty high side there but always love the content. Keep it up jeff! Can't wait to see more
@mattleitch9577
@mattleitch9577 3 жыл бұрын
I think for most people the lectron is the way to go… knowing my self I can get basic settings down and make a bike run ok… when I raced 2 stroke supermotos I spent a day with a guy that was a master at tuning and man my bike ran better than ever before but I couldn’t keep up on it from track to track and temperature changes so I went back to the lectron… on my kx125 build I’ve ordered the new lectron and watching this video makes me excited to put it on
@danhenderson783
@danhenderson783 3 жыл бұрын
The AMA needs to drop the two stroke handicap from national races. In other organizations that run 2T and 4T equal cc to cc it has been extremely successful. Privateers can run 2T on a lower budget and still be competitive.
@ethan_martin
@ethan_martin 3 жыл бұрын
What organizations are you referring to? I think the handicap could use some adjustments (e.g. the ktm 150sx is a much better alternative to the 250 4 stroke than a 125), but definitely _not_ equal cc. All else being equal, two strokes just measure higher in overall power, so it wouldn't really make sense to allow 250 2 strokes to race with 250 4 strokes in an ultra-competitive scenario for example.
@danhenderson783
@danhenderson783 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethan_martin European EMX 250, Canadian Motocross, Australian Motocross. EMX 250 championship was just won by a 2T Yamaha (Fantic Racing) in a huge field of four strokes.
@danhenderson783
@danhenderson783 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethan_martin Peak power, yes. The four stokes often make up for the deficit by having a much wider powerband.
@mentalsid3701
@mentalsid3701 3 жыл бұрын
I've not seen a 2 stroke ridden that hard in long time!!!! Impressive 👍👌😎
@stevepuyear2738
@stevepuyear2738 3 жыл бұрын
That thing runs INSANE! I watched your throttle hand every lap and from zero throttle to pinned it never had a single hiccup anywhere on the track. It really eats up the heavy muck in the corners instead of the engine RPM's pulling way down.
@Scottstunts
@Scottstunts 2 жыл бұрын
I friggin love 2 strokes. I have a 2017 TE300 with a Lectron and hell yes they’re worth it. More power, crisp everywhere and way better mileage. 150 hours and the top end is still mint.
@ReturnOfDeeO
@ReturnOfDeeO 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd say you were scootchin' along pretty well out there! Glad the camera was nice and clear for the ride back to the van... haha. Great stuff Jeff, yew!
@derailleurmind0454
@derailleurmind0454 3 жыл бұрын
COOPS! broke my scaphoid at work didn't get to go. Love to see you rip the 2 stroke. 🙏 so fun
@raymondsiewert2720
@raymondsiewert2720 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention the new model Electron carb finally put the choke lever on the proper side ! 😁 It seems to me, as it did on the CR 125 , that it actually is more boggy down low and at the initial off throttle response !
@DislodgedTKO
@DislodgedTKO 3 жыл бұрын
Personally from my experience is that the lectrons are good. They work. But you wont see significant power gains from a properly jetted carb to the lectron carb. But most people have mis jetted bikes and see significant gains because the jetting automatically adjusts from a misjetted setting to a "properly jetted" lectron. For me personally im gonna put the 800 into a Hinson and 30min to swap jets
@user-mo8tm4jw2l
@user-mo8tm4jw2l 3 жыл бұрын
I spent over 40 hours tuning the lectron to get it to run “just right” at my altitude because I’m ocd af when it comes to how my motor runs. Their settings were NEVER even close to right. Despite very very accurate descriptions of altitude, parts and rider skill level. Lectron was always off. Never right. Close yes. Good enough to ride for a trail ride. Yep. Absolutely. But if you chase perfection in how your bike runs your going to notice a HUGE power gain with a standard carb compared to the lectron. Can’t agree with ya more man. My lectrons on eBay right now 😂😂 ya just can’t beat a pocket full of brass. Jetting is easy if your detail minded.
@anthonykottke7877
@anthonykottke7877 3 жыл бұрын
Lectrons are great, had one on a 150sx only downside was landing off a big jump the fuel sloshed and the bike would cut out of .5 a second. That might be fixed now though.
@mav459
@mav459 Жыл бұрын
Sounds more like she needed to be tuned up. Or maybe an air leak.
@rickvonderchek6898
@rickvonderchek6898 3 жыл бұрын
I have a smart carb 2 with a boyesen rad valve on husky tx 300 bikes runs flawlessly where ever I take it rode it in Colorado Texas and Pennsylvania best money I ever spent
@barneythurgoodmtb8127
@barneythurgoodmtb8127 3 жыл бұрын
2 stroke vs 4 stroke lap time comparison would be good!! 🤙
@TheShift1313
@TheShift1313 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to StankeDog on what he does. I think you leave a little power on the table with the Lectron but you certainly have to fiddle with it less. Especially this time of year. For the carb just loosen the subframe lower bolts. Remove the upper and pull the muffler off. Fooling with the intake boot and space adds enough time that just rotating the subframe speeds it up. Unless you are on an xc or xcw with a battery....
@juniorcarmack8741
@juniorcarmack8741 2 жыл бұрын
It does sound a bit rich down low. But it does still sound pretty good. Better rich than lean in my opinion. And nice riding that’s how I like to tear it up on the track!
@NirHason
@NirHason 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! How is the mx12 tire?? I'm using a SmartCarb 2 on my KTM 300 and it's perfect!
@DominikHemen
@DominikHemen 3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday i watched a first ride on that beast and i was thinking. Oh boy, he need put Lectron carb on that thing and some racin exhaust. Lectron is here, we are waiting some pipe! And i guess we will see some lap time comparison sx250/sx-f450 👌 Love your vid's!
@jamiesanchez4339
@jamiesanchez4339 7 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your videos, thanks for that. I had a pair of Lectrons on a 1978 RD400 and that bike ripped ,always wondered about the off road application for that type carb, looks like I'm going to get one for my CR250 .
@mattmarsh215
@mattmarsh215 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me miss being home and riding that track I remember when they first opened!
@carlatamanczyk3891
@carlatamanczyk3891 3 жыл бұрын
I used a heat gun to soften the intake boot rubber. Helped enough.
@orijinalgamesta9738
@orijinalgamesta9738 2 жыл бұрын
40 years of 2-stroke experience here and i can say it sounds dang near spot on. IMO the "bog" some are referring to is due to deep rutted mud. You might, and i do mean might, get a little more overrev by adding more power jet but exhaust components play a role in that. It should be noted that overrev is not a healthy engine characteristic long term. Your point of being able to go anywhere and have the bike perform very well was missed I suppose. Which is exactly why i switched to a Lectron in 2019. Love the 2t content, and hats off clearing the finish line jump in the mud and rain. Next up, a CR500 AF with a counterbalanced crank if you would please
@FourthWayRanch
@FourthWayRanch Жыл бұрын
how do you think it compares to a mikuni TMX38 carb? what altitude range can they cover without having to change jets?
@orijinalgamesta9738
@orijinalgamesta9738 Жыл бұрын
@@FourthWayRanch i can only speak from my experience with a Mikuni 38 and a Lectron HV38 and that is limited to 2 dirt bikes. Everything else ive had came with Kiehin. A 2017 ktm 250 and a 2019 ktm 150. First is both came with the same exact mikuni38 carb. The 250 runs great and the 150 ran like poo. When i put the Lectron on the 150 it ran better and more efficiently but i was missing some bottom end torque. After some Q and A with several people who know much more than i do i bought and installed a Kiehin 36mm from JD Jetting for the 150. Completely new bike. The increased velocity of air flow through the smaller diameter carb is exactly what the small bore 150 needed to get the bottom end power i wanted for trail riding purposes. The Lectron in theory needs no further adjustment incr you have it tuned to your bike. There are no jets. Only a metering rod. From what i can gather, it works in conjunction with air volume and density to determine the fuel/air ratio which means you should never have to move the metering rod once its set no matter the altitude or temperature. I ride 400 to 2500 feet ASL so altitude has never really been a factor for me, only temperature. Hope this helps
@FourthWayRanch
@FourthWayRanch Жыл бұрын
@@orijinalgamesta9738 I got mikuni VM36 carbs running on the rotax 503 now, we have a pair of TMX38 to try on it next.
@HaydenDunbar
@HaydenDunbar 3 жыл бұрын
You need a pro circuit pipe and silencer for some more top end power and of course that factory sound 😉🤙🏼💨
@HaydenDunbar
@HaydenDunbar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zx_Evan He wasn’t on the bottom end once around that whole track lol, if your wide open the whole time you can use a little more top end
@tcmx712
@tcmx712 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zx_Evan it's well known that the ktm doesn't rev out like other 250t's they are mid range monsters
@GregHitchko
@GregHitchko 3 жыл бұрын
#TeamLectron!! The best part of what you said at the end, bolted the thing on, and right out of the box it’s ready to rip 🙌🏼. The more specs about your bike set up that you guys can give to Lectron when you purchase one, the more dialed they can get it for you. Never touched it on my KX250 and it shredded ✊🏼💨.
@slayer6936
@slayer6936 2 жыл бұрын
I am looking at the beltron and the smart carb. But am going with the smart carb due to i live at 5000 feet and are track is at 789 feet!! So from riding from the mtns to the track, i do not want to have to keep adjusting things!! But we will see !!! It is for a yz125x...can not wait!!
@ezlivin1454
@ezlivin1454 2 жыл бұрын
You said better on the bottom. I’m no guru but from what I see, bottom end is not where you ride! Tune the main jet for wfo and keep doing what your doing…killin it! Keep it up bro.
@JohnHowerton137
@JohnHowerton137 3 жыл бұрын
Rookie move. Always remove the bottom 2 subframe bolts 🤣 TwoFitty sounds good strong 👌 Excited to ride and make some video on my smoker next month 🥰
@bigram7235
@bigram7235 3 жыл бұрын
Most Mikuni carbs are junk. Keihin seem to work much better. PWK 38. Love the 2 smoker!!
@bikerdude6119
@bikerdude6119 3 жыл бұрын
Keihn has always been recommended to me
@s_wggns
@s_wggns 3 жыл бұрын
That's the one thing I keep reading about with these new KTM's ditch the Mikuni and go back to the Keihin.
@bikerdude6119
@bikerdude6119 3 жыл бұрын
@@s_wggns that and a jd jetting kit and call it a day, i do not understand jetting so i bought a lectron. But if you do ,go for a keihn
@michaelgarland579
@michaelgarland579 6 ай бұрын
Yea mikuni carb been giving me he'll so I ordered smart carb
@charlesc3664
@charlesc3664 3 жыл бұрын
lectrons work great but heads up I'd make it run a little richer, I've blown my yz Crank 2x bc of lectron, after making it slightly richer from factory set up no issues even tho factory set up says its ready to go. besides that it's a killer set up 🤙
@brandonwiant814
@brandonwiant814 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, still seems a touch lean for him. I ride a yz250 myself.
@chrisvillarreal2752
@chrisvillarreal2752 3 жыл бұрын
Bro blew up kx144 twice with it being to lean... but after richening up the power jet it was perfect.
@charlesc3664
@charlesc3664 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisvillarreal2752 how many turns? still trying to find sweet spot
@chrisvillarreal2752
@chrisvillarreal2752 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesc3664 which bike? what size engine and elevation you riding at also what gas mix ratio are you using?
@charlesc3664
@charlesc3664 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisvillarreal2752 yz125, New England elevation, 32:1 ratio, told lectron that and welp 2 cranks later not i know gotta richen it from the factory 😂
@devinlawson4093
@devinlawson4093 3 жыл бұрын
Try the Keihin with the STIC. I put one in my KX500 and wow. Lots of KTM people love them too. You do have to go up several sizes on the main jet though.
@dnrg62
@dnrg62 2 жыл бұрын
I have been running Stic modules in my ktm s using a keihen carb ,it’s a great setup unless you are doing huge elevation changes this is the setup to have 👍
@g00niez
@g00niez 3 жыл бұрын
You need to test plug. Run down a road wide open 5th gear right when it’s maxed out pull clutch and kill engine and read the plug. Love lectron but it’s not crisp like it should be. Way it’s reving and sound almost sounds little lean still…. But anyways glad to see you on a 2 stroke!
@LegalViewBot
@LegalViewBot 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I might be an idiot but I no lie thought you sold your 4-strokes lmao. Also, I crashed the same way you did and ended up fracturing 2 vertebrae last year. Love the videos man!
@Webbmx7
@Webbmx7 3 жыл бұрын
I’m on the fence between stock carb and Lectron as well. Pretty sure this video just changed my mind.
@kylewaters8
@kylewaters8 3 жыл бұрын
id be cautious. i just got an h series carb a month ago. terrible timing lol because a week after i got it they announced the billetron but the one i got was completely f'd up out the box. it took me a while to figure out the tuning because its tedious. ive got it in a better place somewhat but its not perfect and its been quite disappointing
@XecuTionNxx
@XecuTionNxx 3 жыл бұрын
Won't regret it. I was on the fence all last year after reading posts. Jetted over and over. Went lectron on my 150sx this year and it was well worth it. Bikes a beast
@kylewaters8
@kylewaters8 3 жыл бұрын
@@XecuTionNxx did yours come perfect out the box? just asking out of curiousity
@chrisvillarreal2752
@chrisvillarreal2752 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylewaters8 on my 03 cr250 it came perfect out the box never touched it once and it ran flawlessly I did 24hr harescramble in Alabama mountains in 90 pulse degree weather to 40 degree weather at night, then at the local motocross track in West Virginia clearing 100ft jumps it’s was like having a 250 four stroke without the engine break and so much lighter! However on my kx144 build it blew to top ends on lean detonation running 32:1 c12 so huge disappointment there brought it back to a 125cc and asked them for the set up and that ran flawlessly. So I’m planning on trying out this new on my 2020 250sx because I definitely notice the hanging back to idle thing he talks about and it freaks me out I think it’s the reason my front end sometimes violently comes up off jumps that normally I don’t have any issues hitting.... plus I hate jetting and how sensitive the stock carb is to temperature.
@kylewaters8
@kylewaters8 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisvillarreal2752 gotcha. I just ended up buying the new billetron and I’m hoping my luck will be better this time. Haven’t gotten it yet but I’m excited if it’s as good as they say it should be the remedy for this headache. The h series just wasn’t set up right out the box and tuning it was a nightmare because the symptom overlap so I’m hoping the billetron is a breath of fresh air
@eugenespreutels8305
@eugenespreutels8305 3 жыл бұрын
Bike does sound alot better. Looks like the smoker is growing on you, haha. Been thinking about trying the lectron but didn't know anything about it, thanks for sharing it.
@hhgh640
@hhgh640 3 жыл бұрын
Day 5 of liking Jeff’s videos until I shred with him
@toddgardner3088
@toddgardner3088 3 жыл бұрын
Way better!
@TommyToboggan611
@TommyToboggan611 3 жыл бұрын
Bike sounds way happier!
@vankuikendavid8453
@vankuikendavid8453 3 жыл бұрын
Michigan man sending it on a smoker makes me smile !! keep up the good work
@mrrrrr1rob590
@mrrrrr1rob590 3 жыл бұрын
Sold. Lectron carb ordered!
@rickstrom6097
@rickstrom6097 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds sweet! Nice riding.
@benjaminboshaw8858
@benjaminboshaw8858 3 жыл бұрын
Hey that’s my school bus 😎🤙🏁 I must’ve been riding my 80cc on the kids track because I didn’t even see your van even tho I was looking out for it. I can’t believe the stuff you were jumping with how thick it was out there.
@lospanchos68
@lospanchos68 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard a lot of pros and cons with lectrons, I put a big bore out on my sons cr 85 and could not tune the carb so I slapped a lectron in it and the problem was solved.
@andrewjck1
@andrewjck1 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a newsletter from lectron about this carb. I emailed back letting them know I put my oem carb back on because the lectron makes the bike stall way too easy during deceleration, and I didn’t notice any substantial difference vs a well tuned carb.
@dg8062
@dg8062 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the 125 vs 450f lap time comparison. Would be interesting to see the diff between this and your 4 stroke???
@thefinerthingsinlife5963
@thefinerthingsinlife5963 3 жыл бұрын
Wow you can hear the difference. The bike sounds a lot happier! You are probably lucky you didn’t burn up a piston the last ride.
@therawlifefamily
@therawlifefamily 3 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt that the lectron and the smartcarb are worlds above the stock carbs. Changing the fuel delivery is entirely painless and once you get that done, which is just turning a screw, you don't have to think about it again. I have the smartcarb on 2 85's and a 150 and the difference it made in responsiveness was incredible.
@motocrosser411
@motocrosser411 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video, sick! Always happy to see two stroke content. I've always thought those carburetors were really interesting. I think the throttle response sounds improved over your last video, but the engine on your bike sounds a little sick. Might be worth pulling the top-end, checking condition of piston and rings, verify proper powervalve operation. I know it is impossible for me to be able to tell from a video, but I think that thing should be running a little stronger for ya. Sorry if the opinion is unwanted. Keep making awesome videos!
@delph7262
@delph7262 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish there was some tracks like that around where i live. Ones around here are like concrete
@ramirosaenz4661
@ramirosaenz4661 4 ай бұрын
I just ordered mine for my 250sx let’s go!
@NinoScale
@NinoScale 3 жыл бұрын
36 years of twostroke experience talking here: You had a badly carbureted bike before. I couldn't believe you continued to ride your bike there as it was pretty clear it was WAAAAY too lean. If you had the knowledge or experience of how a properly carbureted engine runs you would have stopped immediately, also to prevent the engine from a possible seizure. Anyway - it just showed me that your technical knowledge on twostrokes is lacking. So i can definitely understand the switch to the Lectron...BUT i have to tell you i'm not impressed on how it sounds. To me it doesn't sound crisp. to me it seems still lean down low and it seems maybe a tad fat on top? It doesn't seem to rev out as it should. Anyway - if you are already happy that's ok but i would love to see you ride a properly jetted carb. Keihins aren't all that sensitive as well so there is no constant changing of jets. Anyway - still love your videos, especially the ones on twostrokes :)
@a_gill242
@a_gill242 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t afford a lectron, but I sure can afford some knowledge! What’s the best way for me to learn how to properly set up my carb? are there videos, or things I gotta read? I’ve been wanting to tune the carb on my cr125 so I can get the best performance, but I have no clue on how to tune it. Thanks
@JeffWalker84
@JeffWalker84 3 жыл бұрын
This is a completely fair assessment of my 2-stroke experience. I know very little about them! I’m sure I’ll learn a lot more with this bike, and I definitely plan on trying other carb setups in the future when the weather is a little more constant. Glad you like the videos! Thanks for the support and for the info
@harm97
@harm97 2 жыл бұрын
100% right Nino! It sounded very flat and no 2 stroke hit! That was my thoughts also when I saw this video. BTW his riding skills are very good 👍🏻
@joshstafford4410
@joshstafford4410 2 жыл бұрын
Did you maybe, just maybe think it doesn’t sound crisp because it has the stock ktm muffler? 🤦🏻 36 years huh 🤔
@motocrossvision
@motocrossvision 3 жыл бұрын
I think an electron is fine, Jeff is trying to rip a 2T that's fun without having to worry about jetting and maintenance at the track. I'm sure if he decides to run a 2T in outdoors he will have a properly tuned carb for the specific event to be competitive.
@maverick2242
@maverick2242 3 жыл бұрын
Never hated the Lectron myself, always thought they are the Mona Lisa of Carburettors stunning to look at great design and best feature for mine is the clear float bowl, wish all carbs had that feature, esp with today’s shit fuel. Btw your fuel line looks tight, taut. Haven’t tried the Billettron Lectron so can’t comment on performance and until ya compare the best 3 IMO hard to say, but back in 2018 I switched back to a Keihin PWK with the STIC Metering Block vs the Lectron and Smart carb at the time and blown away, now my go to, as nice as the Lectron looks, I don’t look at my carb while riding so it’s a moot point. Performance and ease of use and my bikes come with a Keihin so much better cost option. You should do a 3 way shootout Keihin/STIC (must have the STIC metering block) vs the Billettron vs the later gen SmartCarb, watch your views and comments go through the roof on that one. 🤘🤣
@chadclark1842
@chadclark1842 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody at KTM/USA should have showed up in your driveway with a brand new 2022 250 2smoker for this series, guaranteed they gonna sell some bikes thanks to you 👍.
@noahfoufoulas4761
@noahfoufoulas4761 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff, love the video! I'm curious to hear your opinion on lectron vs Smart carb. Keep it up!
@mototrials582
@mototrials582 3 жыл бұрын
And a keihin with a stic metering block. Heard that is a really good setup
@fullnoyz7670
@fullnoyz7670 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see back to back dyno runs with this and stock carb to see if it worth spending the money, learning to jet a carb doesn’t cost money, if it made more hp through out the rev range I could be persuaded
@crazychad2720
@crazychad2720 3 жыл бұрын
The lectron will give you a better overall running in varied conditions but a properly jetted kehien pwk carb will outperform any other carb available. But that would take different tweaks and some jet changes from time to time. The lectron always seems amazing because people make no attempt at jetting their stock carb or are just not good and trial and error. But we are not talking much power difference but the lectron makes a 2 stroke easier to own and ride.
@xd_gangster693
@xd_gangster693 3 жыл бұрын
sounds 10000% better already
@1damghost
@1damghost 3 жыл бұрын
Also i noticed no mid corner bog as well. So much better.
@carsongarnett
@carsongarnett 3 жыл бұрын
I think that from what I’ve heard the OEM carbs are better if you wanna tune them, and I’ve done mine and performance is perfect. But for someone like Jeff who is always traveling and doesn’t have time to tinker I understand the switch. I also think Jeff’s relationship with Lectron themselves will insure he never has a bike related issue due to the carb. Interesting to see what will happen with it.
@FourthWayRanch
@FourthWayRanch Жыл бұрын
how do you think they compare to mikuni TMX38 carbs? especially for covering a large altitude range? I wonder if they're prone to icing cause of the higher air flow
@ROOJsound
@ROOJsound 3 жыл бұрын
I accidentally parked next to you lol! That blue ranger at the end is mine
@jetdr
@jetdr 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2009 yz250, installed the Lectron. The best upgrade I have ever done. Carbs should go away like the Dodo Bird. Only problem I had on install was it was too Lean, I had to turn out the Bar two full turns. I don't even use the Choke, it starts on the second kick every time. Yamaha should have these on from the factory.
@derek3107
@derek3107 2 жыл бұрын
you were 2 full turns out of spec on the metering rod?
@jetdr
@jetdr 2 жыл бұрын
@@derek3107 Yep, when I first installed and started her up, she went full throttle. scared the hell out of me. I went 1 full turn calmed her down, another full turn and the Bike runs perfectly, actually the best it has ever ran.
@derek3107
@derek3107 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetdr my bike does that when started with the choke on, goes nuts and scared the shit out of me too! I think its about time for a billitron.
@jetdr
@jetdr 2 жыл бұрын
@@derek3107 I highly recommend them, easy install. I also replaced my Reeds since I had it apart. went with the Boyesen Pro Reed, Bike has all kinds of grunt.
@t_tallie
@t_tallie 3 жыл бұрын
really loving the videos man keep up the great work🔥
@TheCd01
@TheCd01 3 жыл бұрын
awesome mate i put a lectron on my new sons gas gas 65 .... best money i have spent
@vmcmark7578
@vmcmark7578 3 жыл бұрын
But what did you do for your ""OLD SON""? Is he happy with his being regulated to that status? Do you have some old wives as well? Just busting your balls mate!!!
@dr00andrew
@dr00andrew 3 жыл бұрын
i really wish people would take the time to properly jet the stock carb as opposed to wasting 500$ on a lectron. talk to any 2 stroke tuner and they will tell you nothing beats a properly tuned carburetor
@brandonknowles2246
@brandonknowles2246 3 жыл бұрын
He gets it for free so he probably has no interest in jetting the bike.
@user-mo8tm4jw2l
@user-mo8tm4jw2l 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I tried to give the lectron a chance. Coming from a background of jetting and liking all my bikes running crisp and perfect I just could NOT get the lectron to be right. It was always down on power. No matter the altitude. Even when it ran it’s best. It was never crisp enough even though it would get close when the weather was perfect. It just never had the oomph the stock carb did when jetted correctly. The sheer amount of plugs the lectron fouled for me over that time I used it is INSANE. Never fouled one with a mik or keihin. I went from the mik to a keihin 36/39 taper bore mod carb from dicks because I put a 36 keihin on my 300 and it’s the best thing I’ve ever done. Just wanted some more over rev from the 250 so did the taper bore mod. Never looking back. There is no carb I’ve used on this bike that’s been better than a keihin but the stock mik if your anal can be jetted very well and run very well. For about 60 bucks instead of over 600 bucks you could just jet the stock carb right. Or still spend half the lectron and get a keihin and be super dialed.
@XecuTionNxx
@XecuTionNxx 3 жыл бұрын
18+ ktm carbs are dog shit lol there's no saving them
@user-mo8tm4jw2l
@user-mo8tm4jw2l 3 жыл бұрын
@@XecuTionNxx they’re quite bad. But you can make them run right. The correct carb is always a keihin though. 😉
@andrewmx2586
@andrewmx2586 Жыл бұрын
@@user-mo8tm4jw2l the only reason I got one is elevation change. I race harescrambles and vary a lot in elevation. Sadly the organization I race in does not allow practice before the race because it gives an unfair advantage to riders. I also have a 2003 cr 250 which I noticed to be one of the toughest bikes to jet that I have owned. I like jetting carbs and getting the bike perfect just the way I want it. It’s just tough changing temperatures changing altitudes and not being able to test ride you bike.
@Fixin2Ride-Official-
@Fixin2Ride-Official- 3 жыл бұрын
DUDE!? I didn't even know you were there that day. LOL- was there with some buds recording. I would stopped by and said yo! I'm new to MX and dirt bikes technically speaking. Just turn 44 in October and just got my first bike last spring (2020) be watching your videos with a host of others. And started MX this year. Ran 4 Races this season with GoPro on my channel of them. Raced at Twisted MX, Polka Dots and Baja Acres (6 weeks after breaking 5 ribs at Twisted-ha ha) SO Fun! This was my first time at this track and it was pretty gnarly. But deff fun! Can't wait for the Spring. P.S. Do you know of any indoor tracks near us? (I'm in Livonia) Andrew C.
@tpelectricco.3762
@tpelectricco.3762 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using a lectron Carb on my 2018 250sx since it was new and I can say it works anywhere from sea level to about 7,000 feet then you can feel the elevation rob you of power. Also the stock reeds are garbage they should be changed ASAP
@theexisting1514
@theexisting1514 3 жыл бұрын
Sick video! when ripping the track what gears are you using mostly??
@jakegentle7853
@jakegentle7853 3 жыл бұрын
This man’s goated on the two banger
@andrewhenshall8653
@andrewhenshall8653 2 жыл бұрын
I put one on my yz250 2 stroke and can't live without it soooooooo much quicker with predictable liner power awesome fuel economy and can rev it to the moon but I'm only a intermediate weekend warrior
@The-Host
@The-Host 3 жыл бұрын
Living at altitude, I'll never know how good a 38mm carb feels haha. Buy I do love my lectron. Took a little tweaking to get her right. But I can go from 4500 ft to 12k+ without a single hiccup.
@jacklavalley8245
@jacklavalley8245 3 жыл бұрын
My CR125 started 2nd kick in 32 degree weather. Lectrons are insane
@geewhiz289
@geewhiz289 3 жыл бұрын
Mikuni has a flaw with the center block oring that fails and the stock slide is incorrect, all that being fixed properly the mikuni is still not as good as the keihin 38. The lectern and smart carb are basically single circuit designs and cannot be tuned as precisely as the tri circuit carbs like mikuni/keihin
@vmcmark7578
@vmcmark7578 3 жыл бұрын
Does KTM still recommend 60:1? My older 250SX had that in the owners manual & I've always used Maxima Formula K2 at 60:1 and spent a couple hours getting it dialed in jetting & power valve spring wise & it is the PERFECT DO ANY/ALL THINGS bike. 13 counter sprocket for moto with 3 gear starts, BANG-BY BY 450's, swap out the tank & put on a 14 counter sprocket & head on out for some AMA District GP's or nice long trail rides. It will bog all the down to almost nothing, LUG-CHUG quick finger on the clutch lever & AWAY YOU GO. I put on a different pipe so that it was thick enough to SURVIVE the hazards of ""HANGING OUT, MAN"" the way they do & with the USFS Spark arrestor the power band smoothed out & revved out longer, perhaps the extra length was the cause? GPR4 "Under The Bar" to take away the twitches & all is good in the land of the orange rocket ship to FUNLAND!!! Sure use way more rear brake pads than with the 4st !!! Wonderful do it all machine, have fun....................MR
@clayc.77
@clayc.77 3 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting that triple after like the second lap! Ngl scared me a li!
@mx4671
@mx4671 3 жыл бұрын
When are you going back to the og track where u used to ride your cr125 that wide open sand track i forgot the name
@nicktobin1255
@nicktobin1255 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any tracks open in MI thanksgiving week, I have a break from college and I want to rip!
@tomcox7221
@tomcox7221 3 жыл бұрын
How does the fitness feel on the 2T compared to the 450?
@shawnmchugh9016
@shawnmchugh9016 3 жыл бұрын
I have the newest one on my 03 CR250.. it’s awesome
@friiswiese2417
@friiswiese2417 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content bro 2 stroke ftw aha. Keep up the good work m8
@misteraric
@misteraric 3 жыл бұрын
I need to just go ahead and buy the lectron, I e been putting it off for my son's 150sx for too long.
@gc5157
@gc5157 3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the new lectron for my bike. I currently have the last lectron model on there that required the longer throttle cable. Will I be able to use that longer cable with my new billetron?
@LectronFS
@LectronFS 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. You will just need to thread the adjusters out to get the proper freeplay.
@moritzgusenbauer3148
@moritzgusenbauer3148 2 жыл бұрын
Could you share with us which Lectron Rod Spec you are running on the 250SX?
@slickricktheruler
@slickricktheruler 3 жыл бұрын
Lectron is awesome
@mav459
@mav459 Жыл бұрын
When you experienced the harder pull on the throttle, what did you do to fix it? I am noticing the same thing after installing my lectron. Any help is appreciated!
@200xcBruce
@200xcBruce 3 жыл бұрын
That fuel line looks a bit short perfect for installing a filter. Like to know how it works in the woods you held WFO. Did they give to you? Or you paid retail $599
@coryrose3085
@coryrose3085 3 жыл бұрын
If you can do a comparison between the billetron and the normal lectron carb
@rollypollyraviolli4474
@rollypollyraviolli4474 2 жыл бұрын
I was really looking into them, but the fact that there is no TPS system on them really removes some of the appeal. Having the throttle able to provide inputs into the CDI as a 3d ignition map is really kinda a huge deal that I feel they blow off. It's very old school. Meanwhile, Smartcarb has all the modern tech for the same price-point, or even better yet, a STIC can be had for half the price.
@Shattuck66
@Shattuck66 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if riding the two stroke for a couple of laps is a good workout as I feel like you tend to work harder on a two stroke
@hendrixwatson8952
@hendrixwatson8952 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff are you going to toss on your A kit from the race bike ?
@2strokewilson46
@2strokewilson46 3 жыл бұрын
Would of been a better test if you jetted standard carb properly before installing lectron
@DGfilms1996
@DGfilms1996 3 жыл бұрын
Those stock carbs honestly suck ass without major modifications. Lectron and Keihin pwks are much better carbs
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