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[@BadgerOff32]

A big problem with this whole discussion is......they just don't watch any foreign football! Their knowledge of it is surface level at best, so how would they know how good or bad the other leagues are? When they talk about La Liga they only think about Madrid and Barcelona. They completely ignore the likes of Girona, Athleico Madrid, Bilbao, Sociedad and Betis. Can they even name a single Girona player? I doubt it. Girona are 3rd in the table! They could still finish 2nd. They're not even on these guys radar! When they talk about German football, they only know Bayern and Dortmund, and they only really know about Leverkusen because of the incredible season they've had. But what about Stuttgart in 3rd? Leipzig in 4th? What about Eintracht Frankfurt who have had a fantastic season of their own and sit in 6th? Do they know about 3rd division Saarbruken making it all the way to the semi final of the DFB Pokal, beating the likes of Bayern, Frankfurt and Monchengladbach along the way? Probably not. They don't watch it! English football is over-rated in that English _fans_ live in a bubble of their own making. And I say this AS an Englishman. But I actually watch a lot of foreign football and it's a _lot better_ than most English fans give it credit for! There's always this 'surprise' when an English team loses to a 'less famous' foreign team like Brighton losing to Marseille or Liverpool losing to Atalanta, but it's like, yeah......these foreign teams are ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD! You would know that if you actually watched any of them!

[@timdurgan]

Surely citing Girona being so successful would support the argument that La Liga is weak?

[@Epsilon04]

Agree with a lot of your content here, but disagree with the Liverpool Atlanta part. Atalanta did brilliantly and Gasperini is a great coach, but it was still a major shock. Liverpool are the third most successful(joint) club in Europe for European cups won and have been regularly competing for the title over the last 6-7 years, winning many trophies in that time too. They also still sit only three points off top spot in the PL, whilst Atalanta are thirty two points away from Inter. Again, I am not saying that this means Liverpool deserved to beat Atalanta, they obviously didn't and got completely outplayed over two legs. But it was still a major surprise and would be unlikely to happen again if the tie was replayed.

[@BadgerOff32]

@@Epsilon04 Oh don't get me wrong, the Liverpool - Atalanta result was still a huge shock, but I definitely think the size of the scoreline in that first leg that was the biggest shock. If Atalanta had won 1-0 it would have been a big surprise, but the fact that they came away from Anfield as 3-0 winners stunned everyone. I think more apt one would be Brighton vs Roma. Most people seemed to think Brighton had that one won before kick off, so for us to get absolutely battered 4-0 was quite a kick in the gut. It certainly shows that there is a lot more quality in the Italian league than a lot of English fans and pundits realize. Same could be said for the French league too, with Lens beating Arsenal, Brighton losing to Marseille, Villa scraping past Lille. It's not quite the "farmers league" that most people label it as.

[@BadgerOff32]

@@timdurgan What, you mean like Leicester winning the Premier League after nearly getting relegated the season before, or Villa likely finishing in the top 4 this season, only 5 years after being in the Championship? I don't think it points at a weak league, if anything I think it shows more the fact that Girona have assembled a very good team to be able to go toe-to-toe with Barca and both Madrid teams all season. Don't forget though, that Girona are partially owned by the City Group, who own Man City, so they're not exactly skint, and this isn't exactly a fluke. They HAVE invested in order to get this good.

[@danielmcgrath680]

I agree with some here, I think it can be overrated by English fans and still be underrated by foreigners. Its undoubtedly the biggest, highest quality, most exciting league on the planet. But it certainly has flaws. Yes we're always surprised when an English team loses to a foreign side outside of like..5 (Madrid, Bayern etc) but there is fairly good reason for it. Realistically, Liverpool shouldnt be losing to Atalanta! Since 2017 PL teams have had the most UCL finalists and winners with even dodgy sides like West Ham getting a damn European trophy. Top to bottom theres quality teams with quality managers, the style and level of football is so, so good. The only gripes i have with the league is the overrating of English players, which has happened since the dawn of time, and Citys dominance which they cheated to do. Im definitely biased but foreign football fans, ESPECIALLY LA LIGA, seem to disagree with everything here. But im biased so let me know what you think - sorry for the wall of text.

[@dudzter11]

So basically “Is the premier league overrated” became “why Arsenal cost the PL a 5th UCL place” these 3 just couldn’t resist a pop at Arsenal 🤨

[@Deathmare235]

And then when they talk about city buvey just dodges the question and they go with it

[@BonitaUzABum]

United cost us the chance of a 5th place champs spot not arsenal.

[@GIBBO4182]

What really cost the PL the 5th spot was Man Utd & Newcastle finishing bottom of their UCL groups, and going out of Europe completely

[@woah4288]

@@BonitaUzABum not how it works mate arsenal costed aswell

[@GoopGaming66]

@@woah4288 arsenal got to the quaters, so did city, united and newcastle didnt even get to the ro16? why did the blame all go onto arsenal?

[@craigbuckland6584]

Italy is probably the most exciting league at the minute. 4 different winners in 4 years, lots of exciting coaches and players. And theyre doing well in Europe

[@Triple_X_X]

😂😂😂

[@emperorpalpatine4681]

@@Triple_X_Xwhat is so funny?

[@canonogic]

Not to mention they have 2 of the most exciting young managers in football

[@Epsilon04]

They didn't have any teams reach the QF's of the CL though. Also, whilst they've had 4 different winners in the last 4 years, all but one(AC Milan) ran away with it. I like Serie A but it does have its flaws like any other league, including the PL.

[@Deathmare235]

@@canonogicmotta and inzaghi?

[@thomaswilliams7521]

Love how Buvey always brings up how much other clubs spend except for man city

[@LukeD-Always]

He’s like a lottery winner at a business meeting trying to make out he’s self made from the streets, Rory tries the same stunt as well. It must hurt knowing the amount of money your club spent and yet you still needed to cheat on top of it to get the level and they are baffled when others call their club soulless

[@unclebensrice4702]

I was thinking that he constantly brings up spend like have some shame, only time he mentions City's spending is the one transfer window they made profit selling Sterling and Jesus despite the fact Pep's net spend is £500m on top what was already a good team.

[@ari29]

because city have achieved whereas the others have not

[@unclebensrice4702]

​@@ari29115

[@RaphaelFellowes]

City have achieved only after years and years of spending huge money. It took years of absurd spending before they even won the premier league, then the same again for the champions league

[@karimzakaria9621]

I do not think the League as a whole is overrated. Right now there are so many quality teams and coaches in the EPL. That being said, I do think the English media does tend to overrate some players and certain teams.

[@Deathmare235]

Also the whole premier league proven thing is dumb

[@SlowlyCompte]

A bit contradictory. It’s okay to be overrated and still be a good league

[@IscoMadrid-fd7fy]

The problem isn't overrating teams, the problem is thinking them doing good in their own competition, automatically means they'll do good in the UCL and UEL. Spanish and German teams always go under the radar despite their records in these competitions. No Real Madrid or Bayern fan complains if Arsenal fans want to say they're the best in the PL. It becomes annoying once yhese English pundits start to insult the giants of Europe outside of the PL

[@LOONAbd]

@@Deathmare235 It's not really, giving it a name might be overdoing it but thinking if a player can adapt to the league has been a thing since forever all over the world, other leagues play in a completely different way than the PL so you might not look the same after the move

[@LOONAbd]

@@IscoMadrid-fd7fy Isn't that what they want though? Media loves to hype up their own products or just talk any type of thing that can get them the attention of the people, even you from Spain have seen them pundits, and you probably woulnd't have done that if it wasn't for the egregious comments

[@luisalvarado945]

The all English UCL finals were the most boring finals

[@bluesEvanskro]

As if there hasn’t been an entertaining final since 2018

[@luisalvarado945]

Last entertaining final was in 2014 with the Madrid Debry, even with all the other finals I rather watch that stinkfest of the 2016 final than those two all-English finals

[@Triple_X_X]

This guy is so insecure😂😂😂😂 ALWAYS depending prem even when there's nothing to defend.. Prem isn't English league .. It's American and Oil states league playing LaLiga style of football😂​@@bluesEvanskro

[@eleonarcrimson858]

@@Triple_X_X saying they are playing laliga style of football shows your ball knowledge is nil.

[@emperorpalpatine4681]

Most finals are boring by nature.

[@IamAlpharius69]

Buvey talking about Arsenal failings not taking in the fact it was there first stint back in the UCL in years. Man City got embarrassed in UCL for years before winning it.

[@Slim-MMA]

Buvey claiming Barcelona are trash because they lost to PSG with 10 men and loads of injuries…

[@jeanjacqueslundi3502]

Barcelona ARE trash. They are improving slightly, but they over-rely on the talent of their players. As a TEAM, they are not very good. And yes, PSG is better.

[@mrsomeone846]

Well, you weren’t exactly watching for logical takes from Buvey were you?😂😂😂

[@jeanjacqueslundi3502]

What? Why was my comment deleted?

[@sachinpatodia4593]

Yes he should have just called them cheats

[@olivernewton8584]

​@@mrsomeone846 hes right though, theyre a shell of what they used to be

[@JNR2000]

The fact that this video turned into an analysis on Arsenal's failures in Europe is actually pathetic when United got knocked out in the group stages, Chelsea are nowhere near European football, Liverpool got knocked out by Atalanta and treble-winning Man City fucking up on penalties. Do us a favour and stop deflecting.

[@Deathmare235]

They just wanted to talk about arsenal, it’s what happens when you don’t have a representative

[@BonitaUzABum]

Liverpool get more stick off these twits than Arsenal.

[@woah4288]

all those clubs have rich history in europe arsenal have been to 2 semi finals lmao

[@tris87don16]

@@Deathmare235 Yep traction 🗣️ about AFC

[@tris87don16]

@@woah4288 History Fc

[@Speed_Rager]

As an outsider I honestly think the worst thing about the prem is its media (including KZbin). 2 main reasons: - the fact that most of them don't watch other leagues (which is normal), but then start talking like they know what they're talking about. Case and point buvey talking about Barcelona when he only watched one single game (if that). - the fact that they literally worship pep and his play style like it's jesus coaching them. So when Madrid for example (who aren't even in their prime yet) defend perfectly and gets the win they start talking about that team like it's not the greatest team in the world. Suddenly some nobody starts comparing them to Southgate. But the football isn't overrated in the slightest.

[@user-vf5gp2lv3m]

The first reason is spot on. They only watch while Champions league and they get beaten and still brag on PL is greatest 🙏🏼

[@CaptainFahim]

spot on

[@Speed_Rager]

@@user-vf5gp2lv3m this one bugs me to be end. I mean we all have our favorite teams but this blatant ignorance is just another level 😂

[@lucasrobinson1102]

I need Buvey to explain how Arsenal “bottled it” against Bayern despite being the underdogs but City (As the competition favourites and champions) losing to Real is perfectly acceptable? I think someone is wounded

[@unclebensrice4702]

Bayern actually turned up against Arsenal as well Madrid rolled over and were there for the taking

[@t.g.s__7009]

@@unclebensrice4702 first of all i bet if that pen was given in the first leg we wouldnt be here

[@zeeqayum4834]

@@unclebensrice4702Madrid rolled over? What are you talking about?

[@BANYHU123]

Arsenal were heavy favorites what are you talking about? Bayern are having their worst season in a decade, Arsenal were strongly touted to finally get their revenge against them lol

[@lucasrobinson1102]

@@BANYHU123 Every major betting house had it City, Madrid, Bayern, Arsenal in terms odds to win the UCL, Arsenal we’re the underdogs

[@filmonberhane4255]

Man City and Chelsea fans hating on Arsenal? And the title says other stuff. 😂😂

[@guanxvi]

Barcelona have so much world class potential right now in Yamal, Cubrasi, Pedri, etc. this video is going to age incredibly poorly

[@Cbfbxvzg]

Either say arsenal are a small club or say they should be winning the champions league. You can’t have it both ways.

[@rhysagrey]

This is the best comment I’ve seen!!!

[@writeandwrong704]

Rory: **Telling a story** Buvey: **interrupts him to finish the story**

[@user-zv1pt9fo6p]

EPL is crap without foreign managers to teach them how to play. When Pep leaves, it's gonna lame as ever. The best players don't want to play there. Facts.

[@jonathanstreater]

I love how it went from... is the EPL overrated? ...to... you know this is all arsenals fault... to... is arsenal a big club debate

[@tris87don16]

Obsessed with Arsenal a team that’s never won the CL 🤣🤣

[@spiritumsanctum531]

Neither Chelsea nor Man city are big clubs in world football.

[@arj-]

Buvey is off his nut bro, Arsenal couldn’t compete with Bayern?? We lost by one goal, as you did your team to Real Madrid you melt

[@Adam-lattelath-johnson]

I’d just like to add on this, I completely agree with all this but I’d just say that buvey is of sane mind and that Arsenal can’t compete with bayern ( you’ve just got Kaned/ latte lathed/ Addo Jonno’d ).

[@JasonWilliams89]

Yeah but City were good and Arsenal were poor. Also City drew and went out to pens, which is just luck. Arsenal actually lost.

[@Ghost-yc7eq]

Yes it is, english pundits look at EPL like whoever is in it is a God or something, City is an outlier but the rest of them are simply not on that level, Liverpool has been considered as the 2nd best EPL team lately and yet Real Madrid has them in the pockets....it a farmers league, City is farming it, its competitive but not for the 1st place but for 2nd,3rd and 4th. What makes EPL succesfull lately? Money and the fact that governement body ignores the breaches in spending, nobody can explain how City or Chelsea or United havent been fined or punished yet

[@willtallis5275]

Err the fact that United haven’t cheated maybe they’ve spent lots but over a long time not like city and Chelsea Liverpool also spent 928 million arsenal have nearly spent a billion get a grip

[@Hhammer]

The problem is how dominated it is by City, yet England refuses to call it a farmers league. But they’ll call Spanish and Bundesliga a farmers league

[@JasonWilliams89]

City usually win by like one point. Bayern finish every season 20 points clear.

[@MrIkOgNiTo]

​@@JasonWilliams89 And again an argument unrelated to reality.

[@JasonWilliams89]

@@MrIkOgNiTo I mean it's factually correct but ok

[@MrIkOgNiTo]

@@JasonWilliams89 How is Bayern finish every season 20 points clear factually correct? It's nothing but your fantasy

[@theraikouemp4ror997]

@@JasonWilliams89 What are you talking about? They finish every season 20 points clear? Stop talking BS. Clearly you've never watched the Bundesliga at all.

[@arielayo]

Considering how much money the team in the PL spends, they are overrated. They should be light years ahead of everyone else, but they aren’t.

[@stephenmason9527]

Two seasons ago, Prem teams won zero of the European cup competitions. This season it will be the same unless Aston Villa win the Conference. So if the Prem only when 2 out of 9 European cup competitions in a 3 year spell, don't you dare try and tell me your league is 'clearly superior' to others

[@mashorire6679]

Arsenal getting knocked out of the quarterfinals by Bayern is a worse reflection of the PL than united getting knocked out by Coppenhagan and Galatasary. They're just rage baiting.. gooners DO NOT ENGAGE

[@_booth7992]

"gooners DO NOT ENGAGE" 🤣

[@tris87don16]

Arsenal feed these trolls mate the obsession is real

[@willtallis5275]

At least United scored 3 there against a fully fit Bayern team you couldn’t even score 1 against a weakened Bayern team

[@finlay54642]

Rory talking about tottenham desperate for top 4, chelseas would be desperate for a top half finish 🤣🤣

[@MrNnete]

Have these conversations with guest from other countries. The english bias was crazy

[@daaljones9584]

100% when you get beat in Europe with 10x more budget says everything

[@mattswinnerton9892]

The PL isn’t overrated. It’s the most exciting. However it is also the most arrogant. The disrespect shown to other leagues is ridiculous. Imagine thinking that Man City would just breeze past Real Madrid. Who are still the best team in world football purely on the basis the impression is our league is superior.

[@Triple_X_X]

It's overrated.. That's why they're scared of Super league..scared to see all leagues on similar financial level

[@Deathmare235]

That’s the perfect word, it’s not overrated but it’s definitely the most arrogant

[@ionuttrif8378]

Buvey made a video of world class players a few weeks ago and didn't put Griezmann, Wirtz or any Serie A player, that for me say that they are not qualified to speak about this subject

[@hypeandtings]

Yes Man City has set a standard of play that is literally the most boring thing on earth to watch Then when Europe comes round Spanish and Italian teams play with so much more freedom And make all our teams just look flat even when we win

[@Triple_X_X]

That's LALIGA style of football stolen by prem 😂

[@hypeandtings]

@@Triple_X_X no it isn’t 😂 Every la Liga side has traditionally played with a LWB and RWB Pep plays a static 3 with 1 roaming Which is Dutch inspired

[@ainthubertsvlog610]

@hypeandthings you need psychiatric attention

[@Ronit1220]

The notion of “any team can defeat any team” also holds true for other leagues as much as it does for the premier league. You do see a Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern, being beaten by other “struggling” teams or those teams giving them a hard game from time to time. People will being up relegation threatened Everton convincingly beating Liverpool, but won’t consider that it took them 14 years to get a derby win at Goodison park.

[@Cbfbxvzg]

I don’t really see how people interpret “best league in the world” as the best teams in the world play in our league.

[@Deathmare235]

Usually it is since by having the best teams you have the most world class games

[@beastunleashed657]

​@@Deathmare235 "World class games" It's usually two teams parking the bus while trying to "assert dominance" on the ball through sheer force of will

[@Cbfbxvzg]

@@beastunleashed657 how can 2 teams park the bus 🤣

[@beastunleashed657]

@@Cbfbxvzg just PL things

[@JasonWilliams89]

We do have the best teams though

[@lukeparker5191]

The question is bigger versus more successful. The debate will always rage on due to context

[@asrarfarooqui85]

It is overrated . When Spanish teams were dominating Europe . They still use to say premiere league is the best . Overrating means saying we are best all the time every year .. even if u r not

[@Support-your-local-team]

This point that English teams struggle in Europe because they have tough games every week is the most exaggerated argument in the history of arguments. There are numerous good teams in La Liga/Bundesliga/Serie A etc and some poor teams in the EPL.

[@connordurham6827]

The prem is still probably the best league, but it is not by as far of a margin as most English fans would have you believe. Some English fans act like they have a divine right to beat teams from other countries simply because they’ve spent more and are from the prem.

[@willtallis5275]

The real true English football fans know we aren’t very good in Europe and our league is fixed to be entertaining but how many derbys and big games end up draws and boring yet I can’t remember a boring el Classico and the Italian equivalent

[@theraikouemp4ror997]

Nah the Bundesliga is way better than the prem this season by far. But I agree with all your points made about English fans.

[@adboogs964]

I don’t think the league is overrated. I think it’s great and this is one of the most entertaining seasons I’ve seen since I started watching. I think it’s English fans who don’t give enough respect to the Serie a, La Liga and Bundesliga

[@willtallis5275]

But still ends the same way

[@nestface4705]

Use to think Adam was a prick.take it all back and apologise. He’s the only 1 that talks sense

[@SirJaws]

Premier league is good but the best run league is 🇩🇪 the Bundesliga

[@filmonberhane4255]

It's not overrated just the top 6 English clubs this season been bad especially United and Chelsea and the rest are either with young squad or new gaffer or also different reasons. The main thing is that there's no much senior footballers here in the EPL comparing to other leagues.

[@williampaulsonpth7915]

Damn was this video a proper bait and switch...you got me

[@colmd7680]

So....Arsenal are a big club only in London but at the same time they bottled it against Bayern Munich who are a seasoned UCL giant. Which is it??

[@issahussein1641]

There is no such thing as English football, there is s Priemer League. Huge difference.

[@WavyKane]

They been saying EPL is the best league, even when Leicester city won.. ask yourself if Leicester could win a league with Barca and Real Madrid back then?! Remember when Athletic Bilbao beat Manchester united with only players from basque? Just imagine if it was the opposite.. Epl fans are the most delusional

[@ghostly1178]

The prem is not overated. Brighton is getting into Europe. Villa on their way to a champions league finish. Newcastle will go up with their money. Small teams are on the up and creating legacies against the teams they couldn't go any way near 20 -15 years ago.

[@willtallis5275]

For a season Newcastle out of the top 4 again Brighton aren’t geting Europe again either villa won’t get top 4 next season again either

[@kevinbarney3411]

To be fair, (Bayern, Real, PSG, Dortmund) etc don't have schedules like PL clubs. Also I don't think a club beyond or before 15/16th placed can genuinely give a top 2/3 club that many problems in most leagues but PL is without a doubt a different ballgame entirely. Every game is different and hard fought for ex. (Real vs {Osasuna}) will more or less end up one way. SL makes sense tbh, if jeopardy was added and new clubs can keep entering it, CL needs to step up with competition format.

[@Stevenbains]

Anyone got a link for this Bayern fan cam they are going on about please 🤔

[@NYCfrankie]

Rory brought up a really good point about the premier league schedule affecting English teams in Europe

[@Nemophilist850]

The money in the league spreads the talent out in ways that it doesn't in Spain and Germany.

[@BonitaUzABum]

These lot always relate everything back to Liverpool or Arsenal and sometimes spurs. They also slagged off Newcastle for not getting through one of the toughest groups in champions league history and were actually unlucky to not go through. They don’t know ball

[@SirJaws]

Totally overrated, and the Euro,s will prove it! They will be lucky to get out of the group 😢

[@thor8419]

No matter the subject the speed in which they start talking about and slating arsenal is incredible!

[@rishabhsrikar9514]

I'm a Barca fan and we'd struggle to finish top 4 in the PL in our current state. We're in a dark phase just like United. However, Madrid would definitely be in the race along with Munich, if we forego the anomalous season in Germany.

[@KingHiphopOf]

Of course you have an English semi final you get almost 8 teams going to the CL,EL,Confer L. Other country's get 2-3 max

[@theraikouemp4ror997]

Olympiacos, A Greek team that barely any Englishman has ever heard of, beat Aston Villa 6-2 in the Conference League semi final.

[@timmy5876]

there’s a few top teams in most leagues that can match up with our top teams but if u put our bottom 10 teams against the bottom 10 in other countries there’d be a clear winner, in england bottom can beat the top and that’s been proven year in year out whereas u never see bayern, psg or madrid losing to a bottom 5 team in their league

[@Triple_X_X]

What top teams are in Prem aside City? 😂😂😂

[@philsblogs8527]

6 of the last 7 leagues won by City. Man City won 5 in 6 EFL cups. And the 3 promoted teams usually always go down. Usually the same teams in the top 3/4 at the minute.

[@BDAShadow1]

The recent domestic success of City is unprecedented in England and a result of the best manager in the world with unlimited resources. Even with that, Liverpool have challenged them with point totals that would have won the league in any other year multiple times and now Arsenal has rebuilt. The 3 promoted teams definitely don’t always go down; Just off the top of my head recently Leicester, Wolves, Sheffield, Fulham, Brentford, Leeds, have all come up and done well and some stayed up. There is very strong competition throughout the league, top 6 always has 10 solid teams competing and there’s always a good relegation battle. Top 4 has the most competition of any league, nothing is guaranteed.

[@alexfielding7191]

Then explain Wolves, Brighton, Leicester, Brentford, Bournemouth, Aston Villa, Fulham and Forest who all go promoted in the last 10 years and didn't get relegated. Even Huddersfield survived a season.

[@philsblogs8527]

@@BDAShadow1 yes, I'm obviously refering to recent seasons. This & last year especially.

[@philsblogs8527]

@@alexfielding7191 this season bro.. Man City streaks through again, Liverpool & Arsenal close but no cigar (again), all 3 promoted teams going straight back down.. 2 Prem teams getting deducted a combined 12 points & still don't go down. Yet we hype it up to the best league in the world, yet compared to other leagues. Italian & German league has been better this season. And we don't have a single English team in the semi final or either Champions League or Europa despite being MASSIVELY the wealthiest league in the world, with the biggest pool of "better" players

[@alexfielding7191]

@@philsblogs8527 You didn't say this season, you said the three newly promoted teams usually always go down which is wrong. Newly promoted teams staying up or relegated has stayed around the same since the Prems inception and it's normally it breaks even, it's always the same or may even be better rate than the other top leagues. Also you're forgetting the last 4 seasons when English clubs made 50% of the semi final teams in the CL and at least 1 made it to the Europa semis. You need to improve that goldfish memory.

[@J_Tevo]

No… 2/3 European trophies went to English clubs last season, and 3/5 Champions League winners are English teams.

[@Triple_X_X]

2 of them are Plastic clubs 😂

[@ebaimulema6668]

The only English team worthy of respect is Liverpool/ not only do they have the history but they have made the UCL more exciting over the past 10 years ! We all Know La Liga dominates Europe

[@k17nopasi]

I think so. Spain and Italy, maybe even Germany is where historically the best football is played. I think you take the best team ever to play in each of those countries, they beat the best premier league team ever. That being said, late 70s early 80s, English clubs win the European Cup 7 out of 8 years which is pretty cool

[@Edgartlordandsavior]

The top end of European football is relatively even. The top prem, German, Spanish, Italian teams plus PSG are all able to spend cash and compete. The place where the massive prem cash is really felt is 8 and below. The bottom 10-12 clubs are head and shoulders above the bottom of every other league because of the quality of player they can bring in.

[@kevinreilly773]

its where the money is but at the same time it attracted the money by being a competitive league so has the best tv deals all round the world that is split fairly between the clubs where in spain and germany the top clubs take the majority. rich people who want to buy a club will buy west ham before villareal because they see they have more chance of upsetting the top teams, where no matter what it will always be barca, madrid in spain because there supported by the governments and there has to be release clause in the players contract in spain

[@RTgonneR]

It’s basically that all the other leagues, it’s the same teams always qualifying so they have more experience and all other leagues are weaker and can play weakened teams a lot of the time.

[@zakmeleady2293]

Every football pitch that Chelsea Football Club isn’t involved in I assume?

[@geraldobinna1501]

How this went from Premier league to Arsenal is hilarious……

[@anishpatel344]

Wait Buvey saying the vid is cause of Arsenal when United couldn’t even make it out of the CL group stage lol?

[@realmadridforever77]

When Rory tries to sound introspective, wise and stuff...he just sounds dumb tbh

[@HarrisonCoe]

Make no mistakes. PSG we’re out in the group stage of not a criminal penalty vs Newcastle.

[@David801x]

2020 was the last time there wasn’t a English team in semis so it wasn’t that long ago bro making it seem like it was forever ago

[@Contextualiser16-tn8nd]

Joel does represent a lot of arsenal fans

[@nomnsookeke4882]

It’s obvious that certain people don’t know what it means to actually be a big club. It’s a shame

[@nishantcharan-zp8dn]

I wouldnt watch a team in 15th position vs 18th position of any league but I would watch of EPL

[@alfietm8908]

Imagine putting spurs and money spent in the same sentence

[@dinbachok6424]

Girona making la liga more exciting and leverkusen overthrow bayern kinda make it fun. But PL by far most competitive.

[@Triple_X_X]

City -> 6 prems in 7 seasons 😂 Really competitive 😂👏

[@gambit0913]

Where it really hurts team is player fitness and injuries due to the challenges of the premier league …English teams beat each other to a pulp in the league and it gets worse as the season goes on….the big teams in Europe have bigger quality squads and a lot of whom are happy to sit on the bench

[@willtallis5275]

We don’t beat eachother up you can’t even block players without it being a foul in the prem

[@101notfound17]

“English team not in the semis for god knows how long “ mate in 2020 there wasn’t any English side either in the semis only 3 seasons ago also all English ucl finals and semis are the most boring match ups of the competition

[@jlawless7112]

Yes.

[@alveuel]

Buvey... Arsenal lost, but so did City. And Arsenal lost away in the second leg of the first UCL quarter in 2 decades while City lost at home in the second leg of the UCL that they won last year... Who's really the bigger disappointment?

[@simoncaskey809]

The way to look at this is......how many teams from other leagues would do any good in the prem? Compared to how many teams from the prem would go into other leagues and probably win them leagues? For me at least the first 12 teams from the prem would win other leagues where as only 1 or 2 from each other league would b able to compete in the prem

[@willtallis5275]

What a load of tosh West Ham Brighton villa United Chelsea arsenal spurs to name a few wouldn’t even win la liga

[@garybrennan3418]

Buvey not mentioning city’s spending a minute in is laughable

[@emchou3]

It's marketing. It's English, and more readily available to view for most of the world.

[@geo3540]

This discussions be stupid cause buvey downplays his city performance then shits on everyone without offering any substance

[@stephenmason9527]

Yes You could say "the Premier League is overrated" 1 million times and it still wouldn't be enough

[@danielmcgrath680]

If anything its underrated. So many top teams and managers even at midtable. The top 2-3 teams are unreal, usually high quality title fights, Most UCL finalists and winners since 2017. I mean how does Klopps Liverpool only win 1 league ffs? The only thing you can talk about is Citys dominance and they cheated!

[@ebaimulema6668]

Liverpool is the only respectable club from England ! Man United have lost their impact in Europe

[@willtallis5275]

@@ebaimulema6668what impact we never had impact on Europe anyway

[@salamandress]

England has the money but none of the tactics. They outsource the best managers, they dont create any themselves.

[@ckromuluss11and89]

its not over rated , its extremely competitive , which is both a blessing and a hinderance

[@user-zv1pt9fo6p]

My kid's soccer league is more competitve than the PL. Does that make it better?

[@bear_eater254]

Inzaghi winning the League with Inter and Motta taking Bologna to the UCL, Serie A is just different they just need some Cash to attract Top Players cause they are the only other League with a Top 6...Juve, Inter, Ac Milan, Napoli, Lazio, Atalanta and Roma.. actually Top 7. And Africa is one of the biggest Football Markets do you know which Club has more fans after Man UTD, Arsenal. Am a United fan but i think Arsenal are the second biggest English Club in terms of Global reach Liverpool barely has fans in Africa, Chelsea has a strong following but i think Arsenal just has a little bit more.

[@kevinreilly773]

i think yous missed the point about the tv deals which im suprised by

[@billysmitherman4347]

Really good point from Rory for once.. 😉

[@josephcarpenter5196]

its overrated. but our biggest problem is this season. the points deductions. city not being charged yet. the pgmol. I live in Germany and most people just laugh at the PL this season. from the outside everybody can see the corruption as they cant control the media in other countries.

[@derekmontalto5488]

Players of superb individual quality often times decide how the champions league ends. That's why Madrid win so much. It can be a serious advantage over teams like Liverpool and City.

[@Dean-vn8tn]

Yes it's just pace and power and the fastest being fast doesn't mean better

[@HiimFieldy]

Buevy is actually full blown tism

[@walkermorgan1710]

The English teams have a tougher season game in game out

[@Querpasstoni]

I believe there is just more footballing talented players available than the Premier League can buy. So even though PL clubs might get most of the great players and coaches, there is still plenty left over for other clubs to build great teams. English media just focus more on their own league, so the other teams kind of fly under the radar.

[@mrsomeone846]

No, it’s pound for pound the best league in Europe (therefore the world). Now is the gap in money greater than gan in quality when comparing it to other leagues? Yes. But this was also the case for Serie A back in the 80’s and 90’s. It had the most money, but that gap in money was greater than the gap in quality. I think it’s actually an inevitability tbh.

[@LukeD-Always]

They keep bringing the conversation back to money but money has seldom been a factor in the champions league. Also ironic that buvey lists clubs in England’s massive spends and failures once again not acknowledging the amount of money City spent the amount they cheated all for 1 title in 15 years.

[@williams6334]

They're underestimating how many Arsenal supporters there are globally. Lot's here in Australia and barely any Chelsea or Man City from my experience. It's all Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal. There's also a hell of a lot throughout Africa who support Arsenal.

[@unclebensrice4702]

Surprised none of them reminded Buvey Arsenal are a bigger club than Man City

[@stretchystretch269]

Depends on your era i think Prem was at its best mid 2000’s

[@Pharoah_life]

The Chelsea line is true that club holds weight teams know not to take them lightly they have pedigree

[@decode3667]

This is so funny cause their conversation is that meme "are we the bad guys" "no, we're not". They never entertained the arguments that they are overrated, the whole conversation is just excuses.

[@neiladdison4457]

I think the EPL has become a rich boys playground. Yes, a lot of the best players are here, yes a lot of elite managers are here but looks at the up and coming talent. Players and manager-wise, we pinch from elsewhere, spending big money on bringing realised talent to the league. We let other leagues train them up, honestly their craft and then go in with Prem riches. The excitement of coaching youth and bringing them through is happening less and less. Add to that the fact that we know the winner and relegated teams before a ball is kicked makes it much less exciting than we claim.