Is the Refreshed 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E FINALLY Better Than the Tesla Model Y?

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@DDGreyduck
@DDGreyduck 7 ай бұрын
I don’t understand EV haters. Can’t everyone just drive what they like? And be happy for each other? Variety keeps things interesting. Good luck to ford selling this against the Ioniq 5 N on features and model Y with .9 financing. Ford and GM need to offer low apr deals and the EVs will start moving fast.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 7 ай бұрын
Media’s done a good job in the last year or so of making the EV vs gas very political.
@Snerdles
@Snerdles 7 ай бұрын
Well, if it was actually about choice, sure, but EVs are eventually being forced and sales would be far lower if they didn't get massive rebates because they aren't economically viable in their current state.
@austin73
@austin73 7 ай бұрын
"Can’t everyone just drive what they like?"
@stevefrench4595
@stevefrench4595 7 ай бұрын
It's interesting. I think what ticked off the ICE crowd was the massive push in the last two years was the government and automakeers drumb beat that EV is the future and there is no room for ICE beyond 5 years. The messaging was very strong, and that turn consumers off
@leechburglights
@leechburglights 7 ай бұрын
Government forcing people to buy EVs might have something to do with it. No internal combustion vehicles sold in California by 2035? The American public doesn't care that there are EV or that they are an option. But being told they are their "only choice" is where the government is overreaching.
@AustinKempOfficial
@AustinKempOfficial 7 ай бұрын
I recently sold my 2021 Ram 1500 V8 HEMI etorque w/ towing package, and replaced it with a 2023 Mach-E California Route 1 Edition. I absolutely LOVED my truck, but I haven’t regretted selling it in the slightest. When I realized that gas was going to run me around $800 a month with my new work commute, the decision was clear. Full transparency, we already owned a Tesla Model 3 so I knew what I was getting myself into. Oh yeah…the Mach-E is fast as sh*t!!!
@kurtjacobson467
@kurtjacobson467 2 ай бұрын
How do you feel it compares to the Model 3?
@AustinKempOfficial
@AustinKempOfficial 2 ай бұрын
@@kurtjacobson467 The charging infrastructure is much better for the Model 3. It’s possible to do road trips in the Mach-E (or any other non-Tesla), but requires more planning ahead. Other than that, I prefer the Mach-E over the Tesla in most all other facets. It has a better fit and finish (the Tesla has more rattle and road noise), and like the Ford screen setup, established dealership network and overall appearance of the Mach-E. Hope that helps :-)
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 2 ай бұрын
I made two major road trips. Both I made it home with just minimum distance left. The second trip. I spent 10 1/2 hours charging. Finding a charger for a Ford is H--L.
@basstheangelo
@basstheangelo Ай бұрын
@@marryellen7713 Thanks for the heads up.
@cynthhgn
@cynthhgn 7 ай бұрын
I’m a truck person but I’ve always liked this car
@mixjon76
@mixjon76 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact: When you register the title with your state it says mustang truck, because of the weight and the all wheel drive .
@metricstormtrooper
@metricstormtrooper 7 ай бұрын
Sort of like transformers? Are you a long bonnet or a cab over?
@Wachuko-1
@Wachuko-1 7 ай бұрын
I test drove both cars (2024 Mach E Premium, not the GT, and the 2024 Tesla Model Y) this past weekend... as someone in the comments mentioned "The Model Y has better range, better software, and much better packaging. Cargo capacity and back seat are far superior in the Tesla." But for someone like me, that this would be my first EV, I find the MachE to be better looking and easier transition from a gas powered car. The Mach E is a beautiful car. But you can't overlook the larger and more comfortable layout of the Model Y. I know that it is a matter of getting used to it, but I do not like the Model Y dash layout... meaning, I do not like having to look to the side and down to see what speed I am doing. On the Mach E you still have a display right in front, in addition to the tablet in the middle... that, for me, works a lot better for a newbie coming from normal cars. I currently drive a 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave... I am trying to decide if I add a Model Y or Mach E , or if I simply sell the Gladiator and get into a Rivian R1T. Either way, I will wait until next year to do anything as I want to see what the new Model Y looks like.
@devonconnor3563
@devonconnor3563 7 ай бұрын
I had a model 3 that got totaled and did similar cross shopping for a replacement, so im used to the tesla ecosystem. In the end the price difference was just insane given a 8k cheaper starting price and 7.5k tax credit and financing offer we can get the Y for almost 18k less.
@Wachuko-1
@Wachuko-1 7 ай бұрын
@@devonconnor3563 Yes, current incentives on the Model Y can't be beat. No way for other brands to compete at this time. If I was to buy today, Model Y would be my choice. I am really trying to decide if I want to add another car... rather than replace the Gladiator... Going back and forth on that. I have until the end of the month to decide since I understand, that is when the incentives from Tesla on the Model Y, change. The Model Y with a factory hitch option... I could use the trailer for the stuff that I use the Gladiator for... but then again, when you are out and about and need the bring something home, having that back bed area in a truck, is great... Anyhow, great video...
@mrjonlor
@mrjonlor 7 ай бұрын
I’m on my 2nd Mach-E. I have nothing against the Tesla, but having driven both, I felt like the Tesla was a basically a fancy laptop on wheels and the Mach E was a really comfortable car that happens to use electrons…
@AZdroptop
@AZdroptop 7 ай бұрын
If you plan on driving out of town the Tesla is really the only answer at the moment. Yes the supercharging network is being opened to other manufacturers, but only a small percentage of them. On another note, the fact that Ford called this a Mustang is a bummer for a long time Mustang lover. Mach E would have been fine.
@Wachuko-1
@Wachuko-1 7 ай бұрын
@@AZdroptop Nice to hear from you Rick!! I need to catch up on the recent videos in your channel. Take care!
@michaelriecher5632
@michaelriecher5632 7 ай бұрын
Don't like the interior of the Teslas with the controls on the screen. I'd buy a Mach e over a Model Y.
@michaelsmith9308
@michaelsmith9308 6 ай бұрын
just KNOW the glass roofs have been literally flying off............poor glueing used! I would order with a glass roof delete!
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 5 ай бұрын
That's exactly what we did, got the Mach-E over the Model Y.
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 7 ай бұрын
EV's sales aren't dropping they're increasing year over year. They're just not increasing as fast as they were. Many people read those headlines and interpreted it (incorrectly) as "EV sales are dying". They're not. BTW, the bronze package is actually $2k. They probably raised the price after you filmed.
@omarjames11
@omarjames11 6 ай бұрын
It’s very stupid why didn’t ford move the charging port too the rear left like Tesla ?
@snaggy13
@snaggy13 5 ай бұрын
Most people drive forward up to their house, they don't back up to them. So, for home charging, this works better.​@omarjames11
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 5 ай бұрын
@@omarjames11 no, we like ours where it is. The front is closest to the electrical panel in the garage, and I installed the NEMA 14-50 myself.
@Rich1Rodriguez
@Rich1Rodriguez 7 ай бұрын
With a display in front of the driver, this is a much more driver friendly EV than the Tesla. Charge on!
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 28 күн бұрын
I agree. I had an overnight test drive. I was doing 103mph because I could not see the speedometer. You have to take you eyes off the road to see it. When I returned the Tesla. I just said NO Thanks.
@KaiPonte
@KaiPonte 7 ай бұрын
Another good TFL video. I drive a Mach-e California Route One with 315 miles of range. I usually see at least one or two other Mach-e cars per day on the road here in Los Angeles. 30,000 miles on my '22 and absolutely no issues. I would like those new lights. I cannot believe you're trying to compare to the Tesla MY. My Mach-e was hit in March and i rented a Tesla for two weeks while minor body work was done. I very much missed the comfort, quiet, and ride of the Mach-e. Also, there was no driver's console in the Tesla. Finally, the Tesla has no Apple Car Play. It felt SO nice to get back into the Mach-e.
@IndefiniteGentlemen
@IndefiniteGentlemen 7 ай бұрын
agree, this car competes with a high end model 3 maybe, and the top version competes with a model S, at least on the interior.
@JamesMcLaren1000
@JamesMcLaren1000 7 ай бұрын
It’s a good looking car but dang I really like the green one with the bronze package. I wouldn’t want to pay the extra $ for it but it’s pretty sharp looking.
@jagpilotohio
@jagpilotohio 7 ай бұрын
That Green with bronze is the ticket.
@hwirtwirt4500
@hwirtwirt4500 7 ай бұрын
The green with bronze is really sharp.
@johnbrisson1965
@johnbrisson1965 7 ай бұрын
I really like the Mach E! I’ve gradually made the move to wanting a full electric next year. I had a hybrid and now I currently drive a plug-in hybrid Ford C-MAX and that car has been a workhorse. I think the electrics are a lot of fun and it would fit my lifestyle with that mileage range. Of course there are still some more cars coming down the road within in the next year. I am really looking forward to test driving the Chevy Equinox EV. Thanks for posting these videos.
@RobertSavage1985
@RobertSavage1985 4 ай бұрын
I just drove a 24 Mach E and I am actually surprised how much I liked it. It wasn’t a GT though. I think if more people quit complaining and actually went and drove one, they’d be surprised.
@J.W.W.
@J.W.W. 7 ай бұрын
Roman, do you know whether or not Ford fixed the power relay failure design on this new version?
@sotek2345
@sotek2345 7 ай бұрын
Ford fixes that with a new design and put the new part in all existing vehicles. For '24, they also updated the internal wiring/cooling to get this extra power and extended full power operation.
@Throttle_Dweebs
@Throttle_Dweebs 7 ай бұрын
It was fixed with the 2023 year model, and previous year models are getting replacements regardless if they are bad or not.
@Jeffery-o6i
@Jeffery-o6i 7 ай бұрын
What I have heard is the "New" HVBJB has also failed on some people. Not sure this is what you are talking about.
@BuellXB12SDucati1198
@BuellXB12SDucati1198 5 ай бұрын
I own a 2022 Mock-E GT Performance Edition and absolutely love it. I use it as my daily driver. Zero complaints and zero regrets.
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 7 ай бұрын
Yesterday was one of the most beautiful summer days. Mild temperature sun in full brightness. I made several short trips shopping. Every time I got into and as I drove. I was in a hot box. The sun shining through that glass roof made my car a very uncomfortable sweat box.
@Kahless00
@Kahless00 7 ай бұрын
As far as builds quality it's always been better. But it desperately needs to be on 800v then drop the mustang logo and name and just call it the Mach e
@Factory400
@Factory400 7 ай бұрын
The practical benefits of 800v are meh. I would much rather have the lower cost.
@roguedogx
@roguedogx 7 ай бұрын
An 800 volt upgrade is definitely outside of what a refresh could do. Although, I don't disagree that it would be nice. Also, I'm guessing, dropping the mustang name will happen once the vehicle needs attention in the media.
@brittgayle467
@brittgayle467 7 ай бұрын
@@Factory400800V makes road tripping much easier
@atg1338
@atg1338 7 ай бұрын
Who cares about the name 🤣🤣🤡🤡
@TheMW2informer
@TheMW2informer 7 ай бұрын
800V upgrade benefits aren’t that big
@michaelmackey754
@michaelmackey754 7 ай бұрын
Ev’s are far from dead last year in the United States. They sold over 1 million and this year will be the same in 2022 my wife bought a Mach E and this year I’m buying a F150 lightning… Once you drive an EV, you’ll want one trust me
@hexanerva1828
@hexanerva1828 6 ай бұрын
nope
@Big_E_247
@Big_E_247 6 ай бұрын
Still a microwave on wheels blasting you with EMF 😢☠️...
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 6 ай бұрын
​@@Big_E_247 Lmao says the person with phone in poket or beside head when sleeping 😂
@Big_E_247
@Big_E_247 6 ай бұрын
@@mcsike7264 NEVER. Always in airplane mode during those scenarios.
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 6 ай бұрын
@@Big_E_247 dose not change anything my guy still a battery in there XD
@ml9867
@ml9867 7 ай бұрын
Please test the Rally model.
@luisillo1987
@luisillo1987 7 ай бұрын
You did a good job presenting this car. More upbeat and fluid.
@born2bechosen
@born2bechosen 6 ай бұрын
Yes I really enjoyed this video.
@TheOriginalBumper
@TheOriginalBumper 7 ай бұрын
The irony of people who list all the negatives of EVs are the ones who actually make EVs even better. Because of all the complaints more R and D takes place to make EVs more powerful, charge quicker , use more environmentally better materials. Etc etc , so I’m glad there is that crowd . Making EVs better through the negative feedback. Soon we will have EVs with 500 kWh batteries that weigh less than ICE vehicles charge at 2 megawatts, cost less , charge on renewable , have 5000 mile range per charge and probably more .
@Longsnowsm
@Longsnowsm 7 ай бұрын
Looks good, but still no heat pump. Ford knows winter range is awful, we need the heat pump and integrated preconditioning options. The Ioniq 5 gets a refresh for 2025 to address the biggest problems and will be NACS port equipped. So I am leaning more in that direction as I prefer the 800v architecture.
@devonconnor3563
@devonconnor3563 7 ай бұрын
Dang I didn't know it was still lacking! A Heat pump is a must for me in colorado
@mrjonlor
@mrjonlor 7 ай бұрын
The 2024 F-150 Lightnings are getting a heat pump. The 2023.5 mid-year refresh of the Mach-E included a more efficient resistive heating system that is able to utilize excess heat from the motors so it should be better than it used to be… 🤷‍♂️ I live in Canada and didn’t have a problem with my ‘22 Mach-E. I found I lost about 1/3 of my range when it was cold.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 5 ай бұрын
We live in Texas, don't care about it. Love our Mach-E.
@damageman
@damageman 7 ай бұрын
They are really nice cars and the refresh is solid. Great appliance and transportation. Please buy a new one so I can buy it used in 3 years for 15k! Thanks!
@TheMadmax0609
@TheMadmax0609 7 ай бұрын
You're cheap. You probably rummage through people's garbage for food too.
@pfd1970
@pfd1970 7 ай бұрын
Lol, yah used deals on the Mach-E are awesome.
@fenixashes1
@fenixashes1 7 ай бұрын
I would argue as it was always better then Tesla from a build quality and more or less universal repairability perspective. While a Tesla does not have service centres everywhere I am pretty sure there are Ford Dealers in every city across North America
@kenhiett5266
@kenhiett5266 7 ай бұрын
The Model Y has better range, better software, and much better packaging. Cargo capacity and back seat are far superior in the Tesla. Did you see how tight the back seat was? There's a very good reason the Model Y was the best-selling car in the world last year, while this Mach-E doesn't even compete. Although the Mach-E scored well in safety ratings, the Model Y is the benchmark in that category as well.
@fenixashes1
@fenixashes1 7 ай бұрын
I own a Mach E, I’ve had zero issues with back seat space and I have two tall kids and a 70 lbs dog
@MimsySartek
@MimsySartek 7 ай бұрын
@@fenixashes1 I've been in both on Uber rides. The Model Y is definitely the more comfortable place to be.
@henryyiu618
@henryyiu618 7 ай бұрын
Teslas are just better engineered. Mach E is a mess under the hood especially its HVAC.
@TheMW2informer
@TheMW2informer 7 ай бұрын
@@henryyiu618don’t Tesla’s have a very well known HVAC water intrusion issue? It causes owners to report a musty smell.
@louism8217
@louism8217 7 ай бұрын
Here's something bound to upset the fanboys. I have been in both, and the MACH E is far superior. It's a modern design in and out, and doesn't scream cost cutting trying to disguise as "futuristic"
@mrjonlor
@mrjonlor 7 ай бұрын
Completely agree. Nothing against the Model Y, but I FAR prefer to drive my Mach-E.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 6 ай бұрын
This is Ford brand trying to be premium. This would of been branded a Mercury if that brand was still alive.
@zachlafond2652
@zachlafond2652 7 ай бұрын
Nice car. Does it tow? The model y can tow 3000lbs.
@NOXStellans
@NOXStellans 7 ай бұрын
Depends on where you are, but it's somewhere around 2200 lbs. Probably better for bike racks and the like?
@LeesChannel
@LeesChannel 6 ай бұрын
Not in the US, but it does in Europe.
@Frank71
@Frank71 7 ай бұрын
The haters will always hate and conjure up misleading memes etc. EV sales are increasing. They are better for the environment. It's all academic though. The biggest issue is affordability. Most Americans can't afford these prices and take care of the needs of their family.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 7 ай бұрын
Im an EV owner. The other issue is charging. EV’s are great if you live in a single family home with a driveway where you can charge. That leaves out people who live in apartments, condos and townhomes.
@Redhawk24
@Redhawk24 7 ай бұрын
Most Americans can’t charge EV because they live in apartments and rentals
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 7 ай бұрын
@@Redhawk24 Many can’t, you’re right.
@zarroth
@zarroth 7 ай бұрын
@@NomenClature-o8s and don't drive any further than your town. Road trips suck with any EV, which makes them awful for the majority of people in the center of the USA. Too many Europeans have no concept of how huge this nation is and the distances involved. EV are horrible for the vast majority of this nation. Oh and guess what...power is out in a decent sized town along one of the main routes due to tornados right now...so no charging for anyone on the road through that area. Hope they aren't low because they aren't going to make it to the next town that's over an hour away.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 7 ай бұрын
@@zarroth i’m not going to disagree with you. And I’m the only rational EV owner on the planet. Charging your EV on a long trip does suck unless you’re on a major highway.
@asselinpower
@asselinpower 2 ай бұрын
I just got a premium AWD, it s a solid car .
@timefly4221
@timefly4221 5 ай бұрын
I love that the get rid of door handles and put wide, low profile tires on. I’m pretty sure the door handle drag is negligible versus the effect of using wide, heavy, sticky wheels and tires.
@kenhiett5266
@kenhiett5266 7 ай бұрын
The Model Y was the best-selling car in the world last year. A definitive result of consumer decision making at enormous scale can't be argued with. Teslas achievement is especially incredible considering the price point. The Mach-E has no chance of doing any such thing. These relatively minor improvements can't negotiate the Grand Canyon sized gap that separates these two models and manufacturers.
@Hugo-py2ce
@Hugo-py2ce 7 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@mcnuggetapple
@mcnuggetapple 7 ай бұрын
After watching the smoking tire 3 year review on a Mach e I’ll never consider a model y over it
@EVandMe
@EVandMe 7 ай бұрын
Mach-E is a better built car than the model Y. I personally don't like the style of the Model Y. The grand canyon gap you speak of isn't being filled with the Mach-E alone, but it is definitely being filled with plenty of great options for those that don't like or want a tesla for whatever reason. And the best part Tesla's , Ford F150 lightning, VW ID4, Rivian, and Soon Hyundai Kia are all made in the USA with US workers...we should all be rallying behind that fact rather than being like a 12 year old fight over PlayStation and Xbox.
@777Outrigger
@777Outrigger 7 ай бұрын
@@EVandMe The Mach E is a great EV, but Ford needs to find a route to profitability. The average cost to build a Tesla is $36,000, down $3000 in 2023. I'm pulling for Ford and for Rivian and for all American car companies but they need to get to EV profitability or they ain't gonna make it. .... And the build quality of the latest Model Ys is very good. My wife and I have 2 Model Ys and no uneven panel gaps or squeaks or rattles. They've been perfect. .... And the Model Y will have a major refresh next year and if it's anything like the Model 3 refresh, it will have more quieting, better suspension, rear video screen, ambient lighting, better efficiency, etc., etc.. A big upgrade for the same price.
@kenhiett5266
@kenhiett5266 7 ай бұрын
@@EVandMe You don't have a leg to stand on when arguing these two vehicles, and you probably know it. That's why you dismiss it as a 12 year old Xbox, Playstation fight. Buying any car but especially an EV is one of the largest purchases most people make. Arguing it's a childish fight between fanatics is just silly. If the Mach-E was a legitimate competitor, I'd consider buying it, but it's not. The Mach-E is objectively the inferior choice by a wide margin. We can go category by category and delve into the engineering if you doubt the overwhelming voice of consumers. I think the Model 3 and Y are probably the best mass production cars ever made, so I admit my bias, but I can back it up. I make my purchasing decisions based on facts, not my loyalty to a particular team, product, or person.
@garycarter5641
@garycarter5641 4 ай бұрын
Have you seen Mach E with two charging ports, one in the front left fender and one in the left rear? Looks like each take a different connector.
@mikekearsley2407
@mikekearsley2407 Ай бұрын
Great Review. Yeah I want this car. Keep telling the world it rains alot in Seattle. Thanks from Seattle.
@robertspeer
@robertspeer 7 ай бұрын
I wish they would make a first ten ranchero inspired variant.
@sherrytierney9383
@sherrytierney9383 7 ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to seeing the Rally version. I wish that version had a little more ground clearance.
@rogerj412
@rogerj412 7 ай бұрын
I to pause the video at 3:06 just to look at how many weights where stuck on that wheel and holy crap. And that's just one wheel.
@LeesChannel
@LeesChannel 6 ай бұрын
Yowzers!
@zunix01
@zunix01 7 ай бұрын
Do you know if the latest 2023 lfp mach-e packing the same rear engine compare to the 2024?
@mrjonlor
@mrjonlor 7 ай бұрын
No. As far as I’m aware, the new motors are exclusive to the 2024s.
@rose415
@rose415 6 ай бұрын
Nice to hear some honest numbers for a change, of course it comes from TFL !!!!! The best HONEST car reporting.
@king-crane4956
@king-crane4956 7 ай бұрын
Just read an article last night about this car. Not only have they reduced the cost of this vehicle to be more competitive (which saw the increase in sales this year) but they just announced (similar to Tesla) 0% APR for 48 months for the 2024 model and up to 72 months for the 2023 model year. Honestly that is such a good deal if one is able to lock that down especially since car sales have been hurting from the high interest rates.
@paulkitchen5802
@paulkitchen5802 7 ай бұрын
Does it still cut full power after 5 sec? The main reason I didn't buy was the 23 no matter what speed after 5 seconds it cuts power. I bought the EV6GT and love it. I almost still bought it this spring after ford cut price another 6k plus 3K cash plus 0% for 72. Now, I want the Inoniq 5N because I am into performance but the improvements on the Mach E seam to make it more competitive. I will say the Brembo brakes and Magna ride suspension on the Ford makes for a nice ride and brakes plenty quick. I do like the BMW wheels and exterior. It is a good-looking vehicle.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it doesn't cut power off, it just throttles it back. Here's the thing - drive any car and put your foot down for 5 full seconds and don't let up - if you're able. In my Tesla S, I'll be doing 80 from a standing start and over a hundred if I start from 40. If you're not street racing, I doubt you will ever run into the 5 second wall.
@paulkitchen5802
@paulkitchen5802 5 ай бұрын
@@ohger1 That may be fine for you, but I can run into the 5 second throttle back in my everyday driving but when I am out driving fast I might full throttle to triple digit speeds. 11 Seconds is about 120 mph from a stop. Cutting power is unacceptable. My Kia EV6 has full power down to well below 20% battery just like my BMW X3M comp has all 500 HP until gas is empty. The updated Mach E from what I can tell does not throttle back so problem solved! Here's the thing, some people buy performance vehicles for just that, performance. For example, I will not buy a Volvo because they limit the top speed to 112mph in all their cars. You may never go above 100 mph but I will do whatever speed I feel like for the moment I am driving or riding. I am fine with 155 mph might hit it a few times a year but 167 is better but 186 or above is best! Cheers!
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
@@paulkitchen5802 I understand what you're saying, but it's not like it's a safety issue - throttling back from 480HP to 400HP is hardly a problem other than for bragging rights. The Mach E is still a 12.4 quarter mile car even after the throttle reduction after 5 seconds. For 99.9% of Mach E drivers, they will never run into the throttle back.
@johna6613
@johna6613 6 ай бұрын
What was the upgrade? A 5.0 liter?
@DonGorth
@DonGorth 5 ай бұрын
Cloth on dash is Speaker covers..Speaker across dash full length
@beri232
@beri232 5 ай бұрын
I cannot understand the hate for EV’s. I live in a 2 vehicle household. I think an EV for commuting and town driving and a hybrid or ICE for long enjoyable trips is the perfect setup. The money saved in fuel seems like a viable reason in itself
@FordEnthusiast413
@FordEnthusiast413 4 ай бұрын
Nice review. Mach-E vs IONIQ 5. Thoughts? Which is the better EV?
@regen3rate
@regen3rate 7 ай бұрын
Is the weird 5 second power cutoff a thing? Everything else starting to sound pretty decent.
@CaptainRotmeat
@CaptainRotmeat 7 ай бұрын
The Mach-E has similar performance limits as other EVs, Ford just is more transparent about it and doesn't hide it behind a turbo button a la the EV6 GT or Ioniq 5 N
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
If you don't street race, it won't matter. Take the car you're driving right now and put your foot to the floor for 5 full seconds and don't let up. You'll be going pretty fast and very very fast in the Mach E. In the 4 years I've had my Tesla S, I only did that once to see how fast I can get to a hundred from about 50, and I'm not sure I was into it more than 5 seconds anyway.
@regen3rate
@regen3rate 5 ай бұрын
@@ohger1 low IQ take.
@winstongsd4273
@winstongsd4273 4 ай бұрын
Just picked up my Mach E with performance upgrade. It’s very quick. So much so that my passengers complain about nausea. My only issue is the ride quality which I find jolting if the road is not perfectly smooth.
@danielberning1240
@danielberning1240 7 ай бұрын
Also, the glass roofs are deal breakers for someone like myself who sufferes from very light sensative eyes. Plus, I just don't feel as save in vehicles with them.
@heinekenswordfish
@heinekenswordfish 7 ай бұрын
Mach E only has it on the highest trim level, and there are aftermarket shades available if you want to cover it up. I agree, though, I'm not a huge fan of the all-glass roofs, especially the fact that most are sealed and can't be opened. I would prefer a traditional sunroof in the front and in the back that can be opened/closed.
@danielberning1240
@danielberning1240 6 ай бұрын
@@heinekenswordfish Can you tell me if the top trim Mach E is the only one with the painted trim around the wheels? One of the other things I really dislike is the ugly black plastic all around these vehicels. Yes, my Bolt EV has it too and it's the main thing that I hate about my Bolt. This one I got in black just to help hide the non-painted black plastic. But I also paid less than 25 grand for my Bolt. If I'm paying 35 to 50 grand for a vehicle, it best be fully painted.
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 7 ай бұрын
I still do not fully understand the "trip information" How can I use it to improve my performance or economy of the car.
@stephenzerfas5307
@stephenzerfas5307 7 ай бұрын
I shopped the Y LR vs the E Premium Extended range. It was close. E rode better but the Y accelerated and cornered better. The E had CarPlay but the Y software was better. E had better build quality but the Y felt more luxurious. The seats in the E are excellent. In the end Ford dealer lost it for Ford. More stupid fees, much worse trade in, not as aggressive pricing and since the E is made in Mexico, no/less rebate. It was a great second place and I like the E better than the ID.4 I had.
@Lokey_8664
@Lokey_8664 6 ай бұрын
I've always said that we should have gone hybrid first and crip into EV, and by then, the batteries would have caught up. Also, I've also said that if you can't charge at home, do not by an EV. Also, if your commute is over 100 miles a day, do not by an EV. Also, if you tow a heavy load, do not buy an EV. When I hear people complain about those things, I just watch them as stupid
@ChannelSurfer2001
@ChannelSurfer2001 7 ай бұрын
Hi there Roman, I read that Ford was discontinuing the “GT” model? Maybe just up here in Canada? I think Motormouth reported that.
@ALilly55261
@ALilly55261 7 ай бұрын
Will the new GT still have the 5 second limit before it pulls full power?
@Cyrribrae
@Cyrribrae 7 ай бұрын
Supposedly gone or improved, but I haven't heard any details on how much exactly
@pezpengy9308
@pezpengy9308 7 ай бұрын
i LOVE my f150 and will never sell, but when its ev stablemate (a cute little kia ev) needed a replacement we went with a model y. it was cheaper. also, all the bimbo brakes, spinning rims and go-fast stuff is neat... if you're trying to sell to 12 year olds. i imagine not a lot of them are buying any cars much less in the post 60k category.
@kjkromm
@kjkromm 6 ай бұрын
What the hell did you do to the rotors?
@xsiner
@xsiner 7 ай бұрын
That big screen right in the way of the dash, they could have made that look more intergraded into the dash and not look like it's just stuck to the front of it.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the same as Tesla - the only thing I don't like about my S.
@habaloneh
@habaloneh 6 ай бұрын
Still limit full performance to 5 seconds ?
@RElse-fu2or
@RElse-fu2or 7 ай бұрын
I drove my niece’s brand new red Mustang EV two years ago. My confidence level went through the roof. Reminds me of my first car purchase; a Mustang of course!
@frankbencivenni7038
@frankbencivenni7038 4 ай бұрын
I love it. I think it’s awesome. They did some job on the car. I’m definitely gonna get into one. Thank you.
@edgarcorrado
@edgarcorrado 7 ай бұрын
This is not a "review" more of a over view.
@roxter299roxter7
@roxter299roxter7 7 ай бұрын
Why don’t they tell you what it cost to drive per month compared to a gas car? Can anyone explain that?
@CaptainRotmeat
@CaptainRotmeat 7 ай бұрын
Because it depends widely on how many miles you drive
@roxter299roxter7
@roxter299roxter7 7 ай бұрын
@@CaptainRotmeat Yes, but I’m sure they have statistics on the average monthly cost of a gas car.
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 5 ай бұрын
There are huge variations in electrical prices across the USA.
@kng128
@kng128 5 ай бұрын
@@roxter299roxter7depends on whether you DC fast charge primarily or charge at home. DC charging is $0.35-0.50/kwh. My electricity at home is 0.10/kwh. I’m supposed to get a smart meter soon and I might get an off peak tariff for even cheaper prices. Driving on DC only is like getting 22 mpg on $3.50/gallon gasoline.
@CoolTatts
@CoolTatts 7 ай бұрын
My next car… well maybe not the GT … definitely the Mach-E. I just wish they moved the charge port to the rear driver side.
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 7 ай бұрын
Too bad you can't spec that on the order.
@motorv8N
@motorv8N 6 ай бұрын
LOL - I’d love the opposite. My EV is one of the oddballs with a rear port (MiniCooper SE) and I find it a PITA backing into the public bays, especially with other people all jockeying for position when it’s busy. And many public charger cables are so short that I need to back right up to the bollards which then interferes with opening the rear hatch to let dogs out for a pee access luggage etc. Someone is going to wise up one day and offer BOTH front and rear connections. One “filling” point is legacy thinking from when you needed a short pipe to the fuel tank…
@Rockport1911
@Rockport1911 7 ай бұрын
This EV will always have it difficult as it serves so many hater groups: At first there would be the " Mustang" name slapped on a crossover that doesnt wear the design that well, especially in the rear. Then theres the fact its an EV. And then theres the internal competition in the form of the Explorer EV which uses VW EV tech...
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 6 ай бұрын
Major problem with the Ford Mustang's Mach - E trunk. There is NO drain. Any rain water that get in there stays. The trunk is slopped so any water run forward on to the car floor.
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 5 ай бұрын
None of the cars I’ve owned have had a drain in the trunk. The trunk is supposed to be weather tight. Why should an EV be any different? Perhaps you’re expecting the storage area to be filled with ice and used as a cooler?
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 5 ай бұрын
@@morstyrannis1951 You must have own a lot of rust buckets
@eranschau
@eranschau 7 ай бұрын
Having just signed a lease on a Polestar 2, the Mach E is still probably number 2 on my list.
@takforce06
@takforce06 7 ай бұрын
Anti-Tesla?
@eranschau
@eranschau 7 ай бұрын
@@takforce06 Never liked the way the look. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 7 ай бұрын
At least you took a 2.
@eranschau
@eranschau 7 ай бұрын
@@hereigoagain5050 As opposed to?
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 7 ай бұрын
@@eranschau A 1 or 3?
@royalpools
@royalpools 7 ай бұрын
We are very interested in this car, but we are waiting for them to change the plug. Do you know when they will be doing that?
@mrjonlor
@mrjonlor 7 ай бұрын
Nothing definitive has been announced, but I think they initially said they were targeting 2025.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
If you charge at home, it won't matter. If you want to use a Tesla supercharger, then you need to use the adapter for now.
@rickbernhardt3912
@rickbernhardt3912 7 ай бұрын
I bought my Model 3 Performance for that reason, performance…my S550 coupe is no slouch and it’s a smooth ride but the M3P is more fun
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 5 ай бұрын
I am surprised to read your opinion comparing those two cars. I find the model 3 completely soulless and boring. It’s like a good refrigerator - glad it works but arouses zero interest or passion.
@ericfromflorida5146
@ericfromflorida5146 7 ай бұрын
Not a hater. But darn those race grooves in the front rotors!!! Brakes not holding up well. Lol
@hhjones9393
@hhjones9393 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Roman! The facelift is an improvement. I may go to the dealer and take a look!
@JarmelSingsKaraoke
@JarmelSingsKaraoke 7 ай бұрын
🔥 Happy FRIDAY 🔥
@slyguyaction
@slyguyaction 7 ай бұрын
The Mach-E is definitely getting better. They really need to ditch that Power ON/OFF button on the dash tho.
@smarticus6384
@smarticus6384 7 ай бұрын
Whenever I hear Mach-E, I remember watching the Munro teardown and seeing that cooling system nightmare hidden beneath its skin.
@mclovin6629
@mclovin6629 6 ай бұрын
No cooled seats still ????
@tri3pleagent
@tri3pleagent 7 ай бұрын
This has always been a good looking vehicle. Glad Ford addressed the pricing.
@BillThomas-c8z
@BillThomas-c8z 7 ай бұрын
I personally Love the MachE. Kudos to Ford for improving their product, especially the GT and the new Rally GT. I’ve owned 5 Mustangs, and am good with the MachE being a Mustang. It has all the Cred making it True to the Breed!
@metricstormtrooper
@metricstormtrooper 7 ай бұрын
I love EVs. I have had one for 6 years, but I really hate the concentration on performance and I hate the fact that lots of EV manufacturers are concentrating on EVs with exactly the same side profile as an ice car.
@keithcooke5066
@keithcooke5066 7 ай бұрын
I love our Mach E . Not sure if I missed charging rate in your video, but that is what I'm looking for. Charging and Tesla NACS , get it done otherwise its just the same car. Quality feels better than the model Y, range is perfectly fine for us ( extended ) . Don't care if it is a fraction of a second faster, they are all faster than 95% of ICE vehicles, and who cares
@mrjonlor
@mrjonlor 7 ай бұрын
They did announce a modest charge speed bump for the ‘24s. I think it was like 10% faster. Noting earth-shattering, and still definitely slower than much of the competition, but better than nothing, I guess. 🤷‍♂️
@jhb3711
@jhb3711 7 ай бұрын
I think these look awesome. The price seems reasonable as well. Ford did a good job with this.
@devonconnor3563
@devonconnor3563 7 ай бұрын
Price difference I'd not 1500 😅, when comparing like to like. 2024 model y awd at 310 miles is 49.5k, 2024 mache premium awd er at 300 miles is 57.5k both with destination and no tax incentives. That's a 8k difference
@mowcowbell
@mowcowbell 7 ай бұрын
The frunk does look larger than the one on my Model Y. Only thing I see wrong is the charge port location. Should be on the driver's side rear, then it wouldn't take up two spots at a supercharger location.
@NF-rl9xh
@NF-rl9xh 7 ай бұрын
90 mpge??? Tesla is still 20-30% more efficient and faster charging. Im getting tired of the discussion about a lack of demand for EVs. The lack of demand is for a sub par product being shoveled at a premium price.
@doncooper2344
@doncooper2344 6 ай бұрын
From experience this is not the case. If that doesn't convince you, I think Alex on Autos said they tested this multiple times. Check it out.
@JeepAndThings
@JeepAndThings 7 ай бұрын
Just orderd my first Telsa this month (I'm 58). 2024 Model 3 performance. Ford is nice though. misc info... Dumped my Cybertruck early order, vought my wife a Maverick XL. So the 2 combined are cheaper than the Cybertruck even without the Foundation charge.
@johnbyers3439
@johnbyers3439 5 ай бұрын
Ford service dropped my 21' Mach e from a lift and totaled it. it's really hard to find a Ford dealership with an ev certified technician to keep up with all of the recalls. I've also run into the "Did you buy it here?" statement. I don't see the recalls as a problem, I consider it as Ford doing the right thing, it's usually just a programming update, After looking at other manufacturers EVs another Mach E will be my choice.
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 6 ай бұрын
I hooked up my Mach -E to my 220V receptacle, It has a 30A breaker. My battery was at 78%. Several times the breaker tripped. 30a at 220V. that is 6600W. Now you leave your car to charge over night. I am waiting to see the increases on my electric bill.
@jelloMohnny
@jelloMohnny 2 ай бұрын
If you have a 30A breaker you should only be drawing 24A from it - rule of thumb is 20% less that what the breaker is rated for. I'm not an electrician but that may explain why it's tripping. Have a licensed EVSE installer or competent electrician look at it.
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 2 ай бұрын
@@jelloMohnny I changed the breaker to 50A. No more problem.
@marryellen7713
@marryellen7713 2 ай бұрын
@@jelloMohnny I changed the breaker to 50 A. The garage was wired to handle more heavy circuits. I do not use that much power.
@Snappydadshoes
@Snappydadshoes 7 ай бұрын
I used to own a 2015 mustang gt. Boy did I ever hate the ford "chime". Until, I heard whatever that futuristic electric version this thing uses. Oh man, thats awful.
@Igoriann
@Igoriann 7 ай бұрын
Honestly 2021 is the best year for Mach E. comes with way more options and is the most reliable. The power it has on awd is way more than anyone needs. I picked this vehicle over model Y when I was choosing so I have no idea why the title says is it finally better than a Tesla. IMO it was always better than a Tesla
@mnmz6934
@mnmz6934 6 ай бұрын
I don't think EV is THE future of mobility, but it is definitely a great alternative to ICE, hybrids, and eventually other alternatives. That being said, still not a fan of the Mach Es, it just looks old...not a very timeless design by any means. If they are priced much lower than a Model Y, then I bet it'll attract more buyers.
@CIRCLEDARK
@CIRCLEDARK 3 ай бұрын
Imagine having enough free time to come to a channel about EVs to complain about EVs…
@olebloom1641
@olebloom1641 7 ай бұрын
I like it. I'm still stuck on Tesla FSD though.
@KRTube75
@KRTube75 6 ай бұрын
Have they reduced the number of cooling hoses and pumps and simplified the system as a whole? Tesla has pretty much miniaturized the entire cooling and heat pump system. The mach-e seems to be some massive convoluted system utilizing already off the shelf parts that they randomly picked from other ford models.
@derrekb4501
@derrekb4501 7 ай бұрын
Has anyone seen the videos on Tesla FSD, it’s magical. No way I would consider another EV brand
@pfd1970
@pfd1970 7 ай бұрын
The number is either go up or it is not (hint: it is). It not up to us to decide. Data are data. Oh and two years and 30K miles in, I friggin love my Mach-E. Great car.
@boboso7238
@boboso7238 7 ай бұрын
How many of that 40K are fleet or government purchased cars?
@doncooper2344
@doncooper2344 6 ай бұрын
Own a Tesla and a Mach-E. With Magna-Ride the Mach-E is in a entirely different class. If you drive both around the block you might not notice a huge difference, but drive both for 20 miles and there is no comparison in the ride or the NVH. Tesla does a great job of cost cutting but the de-contenting is noticeable. Just pulling a number out of the air, I'd say the Ford is worth $10K more.
@dmegahan
@dmegahan 7 ай бұрын
Needs more of an update. Maybe 800v and faster charging for the same price and this thing will sell like crazy and it would go on my short list.
@deadeyedan444
@deadeyedan444 2 ай бұрын
When this gets the NACS I'll be more interested. By then my Wife will be ready for a new car and she seems to like the looks of the Mach E.
@David_L3
@David_L3 7 ай бұрын
Did u drive it?
@Brocassiuspark
@Brocassiuspark 6 ай бұрын
I'm just hoping that Ford will make a EV explorer. It's full time now. But I think if they do. It will kill off the ford Mach e. But I would rather a EV ford explorer with everything in it. Especially the ST version
@saddist1Gtown
@saddist1Gtown 7 ай бұрын
Does TFL have a Mustang Mach-E or a Mustang GT?
@johnwiegers3502
@johnwiegers3502 7 ай бұрын
A 5.0 gt
@saddist1Gtown
@saddist1Gtown 7 ай бұрын
@@johnwiegers3502 I know but at 8:28 I think Roman misspoke? :)
@grabir01
@grabir01 7 ай бұрын
Good video. Screens are hideous. A ton of money for a Grocery getter.
@atg1338
@atg1338 7 ай бұрын
All cars are expensive and all cars get groceries....DUH
@grabir01
@grabir01 7 ай бұрын
@@atg1338 Some are only good at City commuting. IE Grocery Getter.
@atg1338
@atg1338 7 ай бұрын
@@grabir01 Do you have a clue on how much you can save running around in an EV ? Have you owned one before?
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 7 ай бұрын
@@atg1338A Model 3 costs about $600 to charge per year, while a Camry hybrid costs about $1,000 to fuel. According to Forbes and Marketwatch the Model 3 costs and average of $3,200 per year to insure and the Camry costs $2,200 to insure. Factor in also you must install a charger at your home for the Tesla. Toyota gives 3 years free maintenance. Math doesn’t lie, you’re losing $700 per year driving the Tesla without factoring in the cost of the charger install. And yes, I’m an EV owner and drive a Lyriq.
@grabir01
@grabir01 7 ай бұрын
@@atg1338 I rented one for several weeks. IT was a model Y Dual motor. I loved it! I build EV's and Battery Arrays. I have raced EV's for over 50 years. My Model Y got 91 miles on the Autobahn between Heilbronn and Frankfurt. 91 miles from 92soc down to 26soc. Cost to charge back up to over 90soc was between 50-60 usd. Takes about an hour using the fast charge. So when you hear charge and hour to drive an hour, that is about right.
@youdidntbuildthat47
@youdidntbuildthat47 5 ай бұрын
Great looking EV but no heat pump?
@mtnman1984
@mtnman1984 7 ай бұрын
The weeds are where it falls short. Its charging curve needed improvement.
@mikefalle7910
@mikefalle7910 6 ай бұрын
Was this preproduction? Almost every time you zoom in I see panels misaligned.
@jelloMohnny
@jelloMohnny 2 ай бұрын
There are no pre-production Mach-Es
@loriallen67
@loriallen67 7 ай бұрын
The Rally GT is a tempting replacement for our 21 Premium AWD.
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