The Sabbath Before Creation? Who Are the "Saints" in Jude

[@gordo191]

Did Mrs White say we are a theatre to the universe ?

[@SecretsUnsealedMinistry]

Yes, here is a reference. ”Only by the gift of God’s Son could the ransom of the human race be obtained. Without this sacrifice, all that remained for man was death in his sins. But by giving His life for the life of the world, Christ bridged the gulf that sin had made, joining this sin-cursed earth to the universe of heaven as a province. God chose this world to be the theater of His mighty work of grace. While the sentence of condemnation was suspended over it because of the rebellion of its inhabitants, while the clouds of wrath were accumulating because of transgression of God’s law, a strange and mysterious voice was heard in heaven: “Lo, I come ... to do Thy will, O God.” “Sacrifice and offering Thou wouldest not, but a body hast Thou prepared me.””{ ST February 22, 1899, par. 4 }

[@farwestgarohills3831]

Question on Jude verse 14 can be solved by verse 15. Verse 15 clearly indicates that these saints are the redeemed saints who will judge the wicked and the angels. And this event is of the after millennium, when saints will judge the world (1 Cor. 6:2) and the angels (1 Cor. 6:3).

[@ethonsalmon3035]

Didn't the bible said that lucifer sin in the book of Ezekiel 28 , and sin is a transgression of the law, and the law is the foundation of God's throne?

[@eugenepelle4790]

I think, Jude was referring to the third coming of Jesus, He is coming with the saints that came up with at the second coming, they are the ones riding in the holy city that will come down from heaven at the third coming. Zechariah 14:4,5

[@stevehypolite1550]

God refers to the redeem as Holy 1 Peter 2:9 also Romans 1:7 the redeem are called to be Holy or (Saints) The Greek word Hagios is often times translated saints. Therefore considering the context of Jude 1:14-14 why this text can’t be referring to the redeem coming with Christ after the 1000 years?

[@stevehypolite1550]

Jude 1:14 cannot be explained without considering verse 15. Verse 15 gives context to verse 14. It is clear these text is not speaking of Christ second coming, because in this coming of Christ comes to execute Judgment. In Christ coming after the 1000. Years He then execute Judgment. So in this coming the saints that Christ coming with is the redeem they come in the new Jerusalem revelation 20. He come with the new Jerusalem

[@ethonsalmon3035]

So where did Jesus put you?

[@kennyndiweni2478]

Disappointed with your answer on Jude 1:14. Clearly this is talking about the 3rd coming of Jesus, after the millennium, where he will bring thousands and thousands of His saints. The context of saints clearly means people- that is the redeemed contrasted in verse 15 with the ungodly. On His 3rd coming Jesus is coming to execute judgement on the wicked where, as Ellen White explains in the Great Controversy, the wicked are convinced (verse 15)of their sins and the accept that God is righteous and just in passing sentence upon them.