Is The Score F@*king Serious?

[@1cedcoffee]

Richard yelling at people for having idiotic takes never ceases to entertain me

[@t3h51d3w1nd3r]

I agree, lol that take with poohs face like that, is fucking hilarious🤌

[@whoaitstiger]

"What about today, dickhead?" is one of the best zinger catchphrases I have ever heard.

[@spesiell3902]

Richard Lewis giving dogshit takes while not playing the game never ceases to entertain me

[@bhaskarbhasku2921]

Richard yelling at people for having idiotic takes and having idiotic takes to it never ceases to entertain me

[@Tobygas]

@@spesiell3902 Oh yeah he's the one who's takes are dogshit. Let's stop living in this imaginary world where you can't talk about a game objectively if you don't play it. You don't need to play if you got decades of experience on the field

[@PeterGembrowski]

I know that some valve employee listen to your commentary Richard. These opinions do not fall on deaf ears

[@Goperslop]

The janitors maybe.

[@jebbyy32]

​@@Goperslopname checks out.

[@asarnatskiy]

Yea the Valve employees need some safespace and a pat on the back.

[@jebbyy32]

@@asarnatskiy ahh yes another delusional cs fan. Cry is free

[@tise7709]

@@asarnatskiyfunny you should say that when the same community suddenly do not have the stomach to criticize riot with the same level of passion as they do with valve despite doing much more vile shit

[@thefranChise1]

Yo thanks for speaking up about thescore. Ironically, I also uploaded a video today talking about this exact type of issue. They made a video about why people hate the smash player leffen and referenced one of my videos as an example of "leffen haters", yet somehow failed to represent any of the points I made, almost as if they just needed a snappy 6 second soundbite without actually listening to anything I was saying. I was completely stunned with how many thing they got wrong even though they supposedly saw my video. But they don't care about painting an accurate picture, they just want to churn out as many videos as possible to make money.

[@michaelh9694]

I remember watching your leffen video, it was good. the score really sucks tbh

[@hydro3509]

35:11 Actually has me in tears hearing Richard saying "it's not even a peepo"

[@caillet14]

I absolutely hate these “reporters” at The Score

[@mehow2g]

It's weird how they talk the same.

[@rogerelzenga4465]

@@mehow2g Same writer.....

[@mehow2g]

I can understand the writer, but why do they tonally speak in the same rhythm as if they are speaking to 5 year olds with no attention span?@@rogerelzenga4465

[@leonardovenancio6096]

​@@rogerelzenga4465 2024 and people still don't understand that the reporters aren't the ones writing the scripts

[@altxz7206]

The s1mple crosshair placement thing was hilarious because the data they showed even proved he was the best at it since low degree = better placement.

[@nahman34]

They heard freakazoid say it once in a random clip and peddled it like it was true lol

[@sixish]

​@@nahman34 that clip is from when he joined Liquid like 8 years ago lmao

[@nahman34]

@@sixish I know it’s crazy hahaha

[@LOBYA]

im not a s1mple hater by any means but its not hard to notice his crosshair placement is mid af (at least compared to other pros), just look at his pov when plays especially with rifles.

[@chrlzcs]

@@LOBYA funny because statistically he has one of the best crosshair placements

[@bonarman8324]

bringing up a donhaci screenshot is actually wild for "journalism"

[@ShakeITyEA]

donhaci is a narcissist clown lol

[@eazen]

He’s a clown, not a journalist. An actual journalist roasted him to a molecular crisp

[@ShakeITyEA]

donhaci is a narcissist who just wants attention lol

[@ShakeITyEA]

donhaci just wants attention

[@mobs2r]

The Score has always kind of been a joke on the side of eSports. They do have good content for the low attention span folks who aren't going to read a full article or watch a full 30m video, but they definitely act a little entitled in their coverage overall. I think Dimitri is personable and he doesn't seem like a bad guy, but he is NOT a Counter-Strike aficionado by any means. I wish that there were more creators like you in the scene who cared about the full story.

[@xIIIpwnageIIIx]

I don’t look to them for esports new because they definitely just copy and noticed that for years but I do enjoy their player profiles.

[@Soyboy10]

I feel like at the start they made better/more original content. This might be some kind of Mandela-effect bullshit I’m applying on my mind tho. When they had less content it felt better overall, I guess?

[@eastsidechump92]

They're a joke when it comes to real sports too. Their 24 hr TV network for tradition sports folded around 2014 because it was far away the 3rd best sports network in Canada. I work for the top one, TSN (Bell Media/ESPN) and in 2nd place, our rival, is Sportsnet (Rogers). So basically our two big telecom companies run our sports networks. theScore has never even been close to threatening the other two for market share. Eventually they got bought by Rogers and now all they do is this mediocre eSports journalism and sportsbook betting.

[@killerkonnat]

They have plagiarized at least a couple of their stories.

[@waNErBOY]

it all started going downhill when they hired liz lol

[@squatCS]

The don mention, vertigo bug, and pepe parts killed me holy shit

[@Crazyeyes388]

I’ve been playing cs left handed since beta 1 in 1999 (my dad was into TFC) and if 11 year old me remembers correctly the left hand was defaulted. So I played cs left handed for 24 years just because it’s what I was used you. And you know what? Lewis is right, it’s not that fucking big a deal, I don’t really care, just make the game feel smooth and I’ll be happy.

[@don_chanGD]

i really dont get why i shouldnt be able to play cs in the way i want to play it, i want to play with left hand like in previous counter strikes

[@nickk4044]

@@don_chanGD The thing is that people keybind it to switch left and right a ton during the game so the gun isn't blocking a corner when they peek it (i.e. switch to left hand view when peeking to the right), so it becomes more of an advantage thing than cosmetic, similarly to how the green CT suits were being used to blend into foliage on Overpass. It was meant to do exactly what you want to use it for and allow you to customize your gameplay, not to become a tactical feature, like it unfortunately has become on high levels

[@Eliteerin]

It's back now anyway which is good for people who's brains are used to it and play exclusively on one side like me but I just dealt with not having it and it wasn't a big deal

[@Dave__AC]

I know this guy irl, he lives and breathes hockey not CS. If I didn't see him in these vids I wouldn't have even known he plays video games lol

[@F1stzz]

10:09 - I love you bringing this all up, Rich. Gotta tell a funny story 😁 My most viewed/liked tweet as your average nobody on Twitter was a post where I mentioned the case of rain: the only true GIGACHAD of CS has been playing with a left hand viewmodel throughout his entire career. The absence of this option didn't f'n stop him from picking up 3 consecutive trophies at the very start of CS2, did it? I'm sure he was not complaining much about it while recently making it to the 3 consecutive Grand Finals either! If this guy, who's been playing CS at the very top for a decade & has been a part of all big Grand Finals in CS2 so far, doesn't feel the impact of this change - NOBODY does. If they say they do - they're blatantly lying & blowing things completely out of proportions. No other multiplayer FPS allows the left hand viewmodel these days, but people still play those other games, don't they, it's not a problem over there for some reason? Cherry on top of this all was сunts replying to my statement with "imagine what rain could've done if he still had his cl_righthand 0!!". LMAO, like what rain would've done exactly? He'd win all those trophies once more on top of already winning them or take all MVPs from ropz at almost 30 years of age? All that by simply having a different viewmodel? 😂 And THESE people call Valve delusional, I simply can't.

[@delur1931]

His career is to literally play the game what an L comparison

[@F1stzz]

@@delur1931 if he didn't feel the difference & didn't get impacted by the change while being a competent experienced pro player with over a decade long career - then stuріd little pugsters should keep their cakeholds shut.

[@manfrombc5162]

"Moron, hypocrites, liars and grifters". That is a great summary for the Score.

[@AudicyVEVO]

6:52 is just god damn brilliant hahahaha thank you for another great video Richard!

[@roznaczygestosc]

I love the Richard Lewis takes on CS2, they reflect my thoughts a lot. I've been playing CS2 without really any problems since premier got launched, didn't care about peekers advantage, "broken spray" etc. just tried to learn what I can and play the best game on Earth. The great thing is that it's getting better and better every month. The only thing I wait for right now is new maps, because I'd just love to play on a new layout, but I don't cry about it, just wait patiently until the major is over and valve will work on it.

[@the_bottomfragger]

I agree with lots of it but I'll be forever pissed about Valve deleting old things whenever they release new stuff.. I just want to be able to play CSGO, Cobble and Cache and whatever gorgeous things that I was able to in the past. I just don't understand it.

[@kacper5611]

Hate for poor optimization is fully deserved tho. Like I used to get 400-600fps and now I cant get stable 240? On i7-12700kf and 3080ti? Fucking joke.

[@DonClevv]

@@kacper5611 Something is clearly wrong with your pc. I have a Ryzen 7 5700x3D and a 4070 and get 300+ fps on every map

[@WillieWood42]

Same. My favorite was people complaining early about the "sprays being broken" and then, come to find out, sprays are tighter in CS2🤣(or were, idk if they updated)

[@roznaczygestosc]

@@kacper5611 Do you really think they will just leave it like that?

[@uncleryze5049]

The drinking by richard at 6:50 was definitely intentional i love it, never understood why they do that

[@nameloC]

Having played with left handed models for the past 24 years in CS, I would prefer to have left handed models because that is what I'm used to. That said, the issue is way overblown. I had absolutely no problem switching to right handed because as you said, damn near every game uses right handed models. The thing about copying pros is so true. New players getting into the game need to stop copying every single setting their favorite pro uses. 4:3 needs to be at the top of the list to die off.

[@ILikeTuwtles]

4:3 still gives you larger models and I think it will stay relevant for that reason

[@nameloC]

@@ILikeTuwtles With stretched 4:3, larger models but the perceived lateral motion of those models is also faster. Also, the X & Y sensitivity of the mouse wouldn't be 1:1 unless you adjust the m_yaw value. New players would benefit more from just sticking to native res.

[@JerryO1995]

fr, 4:3 idiots need to get off my game NOW. It's a habit that many pros understandably have since they played CS way before 16:9 was a standard, but none of these amateurs did play back then and I bet many weren't even alive. I can't count the amount of rounds I've lost because a moron didn't see a guy fully visible at the side of their screen because they willingly chose to see less of the game. "But the heads are bigger" WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT IF YOU DON'T EVEN SEE THE ENEMY.

[@eazen]

@@ddr4v7znah there are a lot of pros who are simply too young to have started with 4:3 or even CRT monitors (which are the original 4:3), they simply use it because they want it (NiKo for example). I started with those monitors im fucking oldschool and I don’t give a fuck about 4:3 btw - for a time I used NiKos settings though, so I saw the appeal (I don’t play cs anymore)

[@NerreraFightStories]

I have always really disliked the emphasis that Dimitri guy has to put on every sentence, it's just a painfully unnatural way to talk, like Tumblr 'its giving' 'yas queen' come to life

[@daveinthemicrowave]

They don't talk like real people, It's very off-putting. So many corpo channels with that feel. Personally enjoying CS2 the same as go, It has quite a few problems but the switch to source 2 is worth it for sure and gives it potential to be way better. Been playing on and off since 2015 and right now I'm more invested in CS than ever before.

[@c0Nz7]

haha Richard. you're the best mate. You had me in stitches on the lefthand model LOL

[@BeastyBundy]

The Score is like if Lobas shallow takes we’re streamlined to a mainstream media outlet.

[@Faeriye]

idk if it's just me, but as someone who grinded comp and faceit on csgo for over 4k hours, and as someone who now plays a few games weekly on cs2 premier and comp, it feels like the amount of absolutely blatant cheating has decreased. i'm not one to call hacks because i mean whats the point in getting worked up over it but since launch i've probably run into 2, maybe 3 out of probably 100 games or so. maybe i've been lucky.

[@jebbyy32]

I guess we're both just "lucky" because I've had around 300 games now and have come across maybe 3 obvious cheaters

[@SlunkyBoi]

I'm in the lower ranks (13-15k is my 5stack) and CSGO was unplayable at our level. CS2 I've reported a few people for being sus but I've seen absolutely 0 blatant cheating like in CSGO. Not a single person I would definitively say was cheating.

[@frenak12]

ive had the same experience, maybe 1 or 2 cheaters in over 100 games

[@DickMaths]

I don't think blatant cheaters were ever the real problem. The ones in the closet break the game considerably more.

[@jebbyy32]

@@DickMaths the ones you think are closeting are still more likely to just be better than you

[@mauriciobetimpaesleme8702]

RL always doing God's work.... Sometimes the right hand, sometimes the left hand... always God's work. Love you content RL!

[@tomb1124]

I love that Richard drinks out of the bottle same time, mirroring Dimitri.

[@Scarsonwiki]

Love your takes, love your analysis, Richard. You’re the only voice I’ve seen that actually tries to look at topics in esports objectively. You touch upon a very fascinating point between 15:30-17:00. Gabe had a talk before where he described, “we put the riot shield in. Our player numbers go up. We take the riot shield out. And our player numbers go… up.” He then describes how Valve had no model to describe what happened. Valve added the riot shield, and people played because maybe it was new content. But I also particularly remember how a little while after the main discourse was how broken the riot shield was. So, why did player numbers also go up when they removed it? There could’ve been a variety of reasons: maybe some old players who left had returned after it was removed; maybe some new players joined because while it wasn’t new content, it was a change to the game; maybe discourse changed to be more positive, attracting new players; it could’ve been a variety of reasons. But it helps show a very important fact: you can’t really predict how people will react and act. You can get pretty accurate, but you can’t exactly predict it. All this talk is bad… in the moment, but we have no idea how things while change and if people will be happy about it. All this negative discourse going right now? What it tells me is that the ones complaining have no hope. They “care” about the game, but they have no hope.

[@Maduc]

Videos like this from theScore instantly fix any growing imposter syndrome I might have.

[@cammyymCS]

This guy saying "I live and breathe the game" then saying "People are going to leave the community" is so funny, I've been playing since 2013 but the term "you never quit CS" couldn't be more true Ill play for a stetch of time then get a bit tired but I will always find myself coming back its completely natural I'm not sitting here going "CS is shite I'm so bored they dont carte about us blah blah blah" I just understand I'm burnt out

[@soju69jinro]

The Score's news accuracy has been dropping. idk... the fact when they started, they had little to no confidence, so they did lots of work. Every video was a hit. Since they've gotten big, new people are recruited and their information has been dropping. either The Score Esports doesn't pay their employees well or too many good employees are leaving, thus only having low quality employees sticking with them.

[@idontgetit2195]

The Title is Score Classic 🤣

[@BeastyBundy]

As a somewhat game developer in my free time I will say that it is literally impossible to stop all game exploiters, it can only be made more difficult, and for some reason people cannot grasp this concept. They go grouch the motions for EVERY GAME, whether it’s COD or CS they blame the developers for something mostly out of their control. Root level anti cheats like faceits can make it really hard but it is STILL possible to cheat. In the future I am hoping ai anti cheats will develop enough to be significant and stop the majority of cheaters, but for now this is the way it is.

[@wilkinlow]

The score is the fast food chain for gaming journalism. I don't gaf what they talked about. And people should stop eating up like it's big Mac.

[@anti6017]

I don't understand why he ranted about people who want to set cl_righthand to 0. In CS:GO, I had explicitly played with cl_righthand 1 for 7-8 years. However, at some point, I set up a bind to toggle it (due to visibility issues, such as on Overpass Connector). I noticed that spraying with the viewmodel on the other side became extremely difficult because I had become accustomed to the spray animation for years. Personally, I don't need cl_righthand 0 and I can understand why Valve wants to prevent people from toggling their viewmodel because it's not beginner-friendly. However, I feel bad for the people who have been playing with cl_righthand 0 for decades.

[@M_CFV]

"(due to visibility issues, such as on Overpass Connector)" this is why its an advantage for some to have it on and some not to

[@layozi]

Typical right-handed gamer response

[@bipolarminddroppings]

6:35 CS2 is floundering at the top of Steam Charts once again, now that Palworld's player numbers have dropped by 75% from their peak... Go figure.

[@CR0WYT]

As someone who went to nursing school, played left-handed, and hopes that it eventually comes back in CS2, I can confirm that while it doesn't have a major impact on gameplay, your eyes do play a factor with the model. Even my class taught that most of us have dominant eyes. In CS, switching the model to whatever you desire can have a small impact on your game outside of clearing corners. It's easier to focus on the environment if you're right eye dominant while playing with the left handed model. Likewise, you can also match the model to your dominant eye which can help with keeping track of your gun resetting when one tapping. It's no dealbreaker by any means as I play with the default right handed model just fine, but it's not placebo either. There are just more important things to work on, such as improving optimization and the anti-cheat.

[@hobosnake1]

Might be the most based RL video I've seen to date. It was cathartic to hear you address the incessant whining.

[@Rsslone]

The left hand command was a nice QoL feature, I liked swapping it depending on the angle I was holding, it has very little gameplay function, but it will still be missed.

[@atlas_au]

Richy Lewis is the journalistic equivalent of an oven. Everything we feed him he roasts to perfection.

[@skclips5700]

I want to see this guy's Steam profile. "I play it so much, when you've played as much as I..." 500 hours.

[@Einamu]

After doing a quick google search I found that he has 5000 hours in CS.

[@The_Caledonian]

another banger mr lewis, havent laughed this hard in ages

[@MyRevoltec]

While the score is pathetic, making yet another video defending cs2/valve might be even worse. You keep forgetting to mention that they deleted csgo. cs2 is not a standalone release. That at least would let players who bought csgo, choose the game that they want to play (and paid for). The communities complains might be stupid at times but the core problem is valve deleting csgo for which I have yet to hear a plausible excuse.

[@RLewisReports]

> That at least would let players who bought csgo, choose the game that they want to play (and paid for). You can still play CS:GO. Besides that I have, of course, criticised them for that repeatedly in both video and text. Great comment otherwise.

[@Uri6060]

I loved Csgo, and the esports scene of like 2015-17 is one of my faves of all time. But like it was due to the community. CSGO and CS in general is special and amazing due to the lack of updates. Its not League where theres patches every few weeks. CS and the community sure was super charged due to the new audience and operations in that era, but the game itself is very fricken good. And as richard said, leaving and rejoining is part of the amazing part of cs. CS hasnt been my main game since like 2019, but I play it a bit every few months and I still have that feeling of "im home" Whereas in league, I never get that feeling.

[@callum585]

Turned on the stream halfway through Richard talking about the score. Turned straight off as I knew I needed to watch the full thing on KZbin when I wasn't distracted 😂

[@FoXzzig]

I mean I normally agree with the "Just don't play the game" argument but is that really valid when they removed the previous game?

[@alcazar9266]

I was level 10 and GE in csgo, but had to stop playing due to bad internet about a year and a half ago. started playing cs2 recently, not a single cheater in the game but every enemy team accused me of cheating due to being in low ranks (like 15,000). really made me wonder if there is a cheating problem, or just a rank reset/smurfing problem.

[@antman8845]

I dunno man I enjoy listening to you and agree with most things you say but some of this just seems a bit odd. For example when Dimitri says "our community" you kinda flip out like he has no right to call himself a part of the community because YOU have never seen him at an event or heard of him before? And you pause the video to go on about how it's normal for people to burn out from games only for him to say that just after, along with like the third stressing of "this is all my opinion and subjective." I dunno, weird hill to die on/spend your time on. Its a youtube channel that makes very surface level content about gaming for clicks, I don't think they're being as nefarious as you're making out.

[@mysteriousjess.]

it'd still be nice to have righthand 0 as an option, even if it was just a cosmetic client side thing also seeing as Valve have branded CS2 as a port of GO to the Source 2 engine, the expectation is that they carry over the majority of the game to the new engine

[@jellocook]

i mean cl_bob sometimes feels nicer that there isnt a moving part at the corner of my vision, but it really isnt priority in any way

[@xandii4694]

i agree with most of what you said but counter strike is one of the most customizable games and bob and left handed are part of that customization. it's not super important but it's a nice to have for some and they should readd it someday.

[@sashin2661]

10:40 The only argument against this would be the rare and very niche situations where youre holding stationary angles and the gun can cover a part of your screen where players can pop out. Example would be if youre playing monster on overpass the gun could obscure your vision of B-short to some extent if right-handed.

[@rat6893]

was kinda with him until about 10 minutes in when he starts going schizoid talking about not being a doctor but knowing eyes

[@Ansee7]

took only 6 minutes for RLewis to once again claim the cheating issue is over blown in cs2. Baffles my mind honestly how someone with such a successful track history in journalism refuse to get educated on a topic which they speak about with so much authority on. Other than that, fire video once again. I've stopped watching the score esports years ago, often times moronic takes with no real evidence to back their claims.

[@Sakhan9969]

gotta shill for your employers : )

[@RLewisReports]

Who would they be?

[@Ansee7]

I'm a student in post-secondary, I don't have employers to shill for. Very odd comment to make. I am simply expressing my opinion. @@Sakhan9969

[@Ansee7]

oh he meant you're shilling? Anyone who consumes your content would know that to be untrue. @@RLewisReports

[@KranKeSchranKe]

hey, i've been a rather silent watcher of your content. but i wanted to let you know about my appreciation for the work that you do. i've been following you for about a year or two and your insight and opinions on the various topics you discuss in your videos are always a perspective i might have not taken into consideration myself. i value people who give me new perspectives based on sound arguments and you are meeting my criteria in these aspects to keep me interested. stay strong and keep voicing your opinions as for example what's going on with the cs community because of a freaking game is completely mental. i for myself value valves work and dedication for their games as it always feels like they want them to be the best version the games can be. with cs2 i was happy about the innovations they came up with (i.e. subtick etc.) and that they were updating the game so frequently. even when there might appear new bugs because of updates that's almost unavoidable since as a developer you are limited in the extent that you can eliminate all possibilities of new emerging bugs because coding/programming a game is so complex. my brother is a professional programmer and i learned the basics of it myself. so i know a few things about how unforeseeable some bugs can be. that's why i'm so appalled by the fact how ungrateful a large part of the cs community has been when it comes to valve trying their best to make a game that is, i believe so also in their eyes, supposed to be a great gaming experience all around and the best version of cs that's ever come out. perfection takes time and everyone who doesn't understand this simple fact should start to think before they speak or not even speak up at all since it's probably not going to be something constructive anyway.

[@hidden5220]

The cheating issue is real, and 70%+ in premier and that is a sure thing.

[@blekutt]

video is good except the left hand/bob section. sounds like he never had a qol option he liked removed. Bet he malded when left handed was added and had mechanical impact albeit extremely little.

[@Bormen414]

Just don't get it why do people take them so seriously. It's clearly more of an entertainment channel with a spice of reporting. Mostly targeted towards casuals that show the first signs of interest in "esport media". Also they have a point with most of the complaints, but only for one singular reason. It being the fact that instead of releasing a new game they replaced the old one. The one thing that they actually should report(not sure if they did) is performance, especially on old hardware. I have friends that don't really game anymore other than occasional CS or dota2 on a 10 years old i5 and a gtx 750. For them going from 150+ fps to barely 60 with frequent stutters and even crash/freeze where restart is the only option is not ideal. To Valve's credit the overall performance of the game is way better since launch, but the game freezes are still happening. It's not as much of a niche issue as you would think since reddit and CS2 forum is filled with posts about it. Anyway, generally I agree with what you said, especially about crediting the source. It seems like the credit is there only to protect themselves from trouble and not to highlight or thank the people they are basically leeching off.

[@Gunnarhawk]

Good takes, but I can also sympathize that the game made the transition from go to 2 when it should have probably stayed in beta for a bit longer to add optimizations and the little things like left hand models. There are a few pros rn that are complaining about the performance: In go you could get like 500+ fps with a mid tier pc, now you can hardly get 300 with a high end one. High refresh rate monitors are impacted a lot while having less than their refresh rate in fps so that is the only complaint that I think is warranted, everything else is whatever

[@tehDmez]

I've said this multiple times, I'm glad they haven't put a bunch of console bound commands in CS2. All UI/gameplay changes should be force bound via menu only so you can't have cringe binds.cfg that are longer than the LOTR script to attempt to give you micro advantages.

[@alZiiHardstylez]

We all know what they say about glass houses.

[@shashqwerty]

they're the page 3 paparazzi of esports at best. The culmination of the worst parts of celeb gossip news and listicle style "journalism". But if you're out of the loop of an esport you can get almost a live feed of the latest in the scene cus they always gotta be fast on the gossip/news. Watch them for the headlines, move on to other sources for actual content.

[@aviewerofu]

I don’t even think they do a proper job of headlines. Like for last year how in league JDG were the best team throughout the year and until the second to last serious match hadn’t lost a single Bo5 that year.. even winning the best MSI ever so far, yet not even a single video was made about it throughout the year…

[@bodixenpedersen3281]

Arguably the biggest change to movement in cs history was from 1.3 to 1.5

[@eazen]

Sure it was, no bunny hopping anymore, killed the game for me. No joke, I stopped playing back then (came back way later with CSGO)

[@jejxkxk]

1.6 to source? no gstrafing, revamped air accel, air max wish speed, maxvel, cboosting, flash boosting? the list goes on

[@mrskizzot]

i lost it when he quoted don..wtf lol

[@cambr0dia]

I do miss having Mr Lewis and Mr Thorin on a CS major pannel

[@ILikeTuwtles]

This most recent patch made the game feel way better, and I feel that if the game had released like this, we would be seeing only a fraction of the complaints we’ve seen. Yes, it’s a free to play game, but i don’t think it would be unreasonable to expect that it would release in at least as good of a state as GO was. It seems like it’s becoming more common for game developers to release broken or unfinished games and then slowly patch them into complete games. Cyberpunk, Fallout 76, and plenty others. I simply don’t understand why they couldn’t just make the game 128 tick instead of devising their new system which has had/will have unforeseen issues.

[@dudemanryan]

If you watch one of his recent videos RL said that the valve devs said the game is optimized for 64 tick and they wouldn't change it. As far as expecting cs2 to release at the same state of GO isnt really realistic. Its a new game engine thats going to have its own issues. They took away csgo to bring cs2 as to not split the community like 1.6 and source did.

[@lancevance6346]

Weren't these guys covering and playing Valorant all these years? How did the movement going to whole another game with sluggish movement not bother them as much whereas CS2 has to exactly resemble CSGO because of this arbitrary "um..ah, it just doesn't feel the same anymore,idk bro".

[@bigflyboy13]

I do appreciate your takes on this, because I feel the same way this game reminds me about how people really love football in the world, and as much as people cry about certain things that they may may not like at the end of the day, they still have faith in the sport that they love. I still have faith in this game that I love. We all have to be patient. There are justices large companies, doing half the effort and people still eat it up.

[@yarxulf]

the problem with the cheating argument is that it only works in high-ranked premiere. i can almost assure you that in high-ranked premiere (and i actually mean high-ranked, not people who are 15k thinking they're high-ranked), there is legitimately a cheater in at least 1/3rd of the games. the guy making this video, as far as im aware, is a relatively high-ranked player, and has probably experienced this himself. as for the people bitching on reddit/hltv/etc, they don't actually encounter cheaters. they encounter people who are better than them, but since all of their favourite streamers who are 25k+ in premiere accuse people of cheating every game, there is suddenly a cheater in every 12k lobby the average redditor plays in.

[@markshmellomd1370]

He's not high ranked tho, he can barely hold his own in a level 7 face it lobby. He's at best a 15k+ premiere player.

[@TheGreatestJimmy]

You're a gem mate and fucking hilarious at times love your work

[@Fyr35555]

10:40 there are occasionally situations where it puts you at a disadvantage clearing certain angles but its such a minor inconvenience with a really niche use I don't understand all the fuss.

[@F1stzz]

Yeah... *checks notes* ...just like in 99.9% of multiplayer FPS titles 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@nade5557]

@@F1stzz not in csgo though. "but cs2 is a sequel why would the game be the same" a) because it's a simple easy to add feature that people appreciated in csgo, if they release a sequel why alienate the playerbase by removing well received features that are easy to implement, b) its not even a sequel, it's a replacement, you cant even play go anymore, c) what kind of an argument is "other games dont have this well received feature, why should the game that had it in a previous version still have it" thats stupid. "but it doesnt affect gameplay at all" as much as people like to pretend it doesnt exist, placebo is real and will affect performance

[@F1stzz]

@@nade5557 how did it affect, for example, rain's performance, who's been playing with the cl_righthand 0 his entire career? Ah, yea: he's made 6 outta 6 notable CS2 Grand Finals & won 3 of them. If the very best at the very top don't care much - neither should plebs. The absence of a left hand viewmodel doesn't stop people from playing those "other games" - it will never scare people off playing CS too.

[@nade5557]

@F1stzz in one of the wolfenstein games people were complaining that one gun was weaker than a different gun with identical stats on the other team. The server data reflected that. The only difference between them was the gun model and the sound, yet somehow it led to people playing better with one of them. They changed the sound and that "fixed" the "problem". So placebo is a factor that should be considered And it was never about scaring people off the game. Its simply quality of life. It was in cs:go, and cs2 is meant to be better than go

[@F1stzz]

@@nade5557 and CS2 is, in fact, a better game. Both engine & gameplay wise. Someone's placebo is not Valve's problem, nor should the absolute majority of players care about something that exists only in your or anybody else's head. Also, Valve never declared that "cl_righthand 0" won't be in the game in the future in any shape or form, so quit this pathetic whining. If it's about to be added going forward - fine, if not - aight, we're moving on, no problem.

[@rustle495]

Mr Soy here really talks in circles about "we" and "community" and then sprinkles in "im not trying to force anything, its just my opinion". Yeah man this is totally a personal video, just an average "My thoughts about current state of CS2" video on the platform. No riling up, no clickbaiting, no sucking up to a select popular opinion.

[@christopherkelley2466]

lol I'm glad someone said something about all this crying lol. I could never take that dude serious, especially after I saw a video of him playing and he's got some pink/purple flower designed arm sleeve on like he's playing basketball or something lmao. I was like this can't be real.

[@LawL_LawL]

To be fair CSGO in 2012 was actually night-and-day different from CSGO even in 2013, never mind 2020 or later. It had none of the mechanics we think of today as just a given, like spray patterns, deagle as a precision and skill-based gun, smokes not putting out mollies, specific kill rewards for each weapon class, the weapon damage and cost balancing, even molotov damage and the slowing effect was different back then and they were way stronger than they are now. Despite this it took pros a long time to figure out just how strong they were, but when they caught on, they really started to abuse them. If a current CS pro who is relatively younger and did not play CSGO on release was made to play CSGO's release version or early beta versions from 2012 they would straight up not recognize the game.

[@CONM0S]

Here’s my dream for the next update: All trading is now stopped. Buying and Selling can only go through the Steam store crashing the 3rd party market. All the “Oh Mein Gotters” will fuck off, the zoomers will quit gambling and valve will leave Mirage alone.

[@GMRMDE]

If valve lets you make their dev choices, their wouldn't be a CS left

[@CloudyDayProduction]

To comment on the cheating stuff at the start - While I don't think it's every game, I think Goat's video on Tarkov (don't get me wrong, different game, can earn money in that via selling rubles etc) did open my eyes to cheating being more prevalent than I thought. I'd probably want to go 1 in every 5 games there is a cheater. I don't call people a cheater because a lot-of cheaters just are not that good, and unless you're blatantly cheating wallhacks wont help you headshot me if you're garbage at aiming. So while you might be suspect, if you're losing I will be far less likely to assume it. Spinbotters and the like, I have only seen a single one in a game so far and he was instantly voted off by his teammates which was funny. And on the Cl_Righthanded, while I don't think it's a huge issue, I totally get that it can be rough. I know when -I- tried lefthanded, I couldn't shoot for shit because just the way I process recoil and stuff had the gun on the right. It is -fine-, but I also get if someone has solely used CL_Righthanded 0 for years, it does take time to switch, because there are a few small benefits to switching your gun.

[@SleepyPengu1n]

35:57 That high pitch crack up from Ritchie got me good

[@xp0da]

"the last update, was a case 11 months ago" surely we ignore a full port to source2 engine. because THAT's not an update! LMAO And as if they haven't been tweaking minor and bigger things since the release of CS2. Soooo much hate-riding out there, shame to see this in the community.

[@deathtodart]

I like how he says he hasn't touched the game for what, 2 months more? But he's so all knowing of this cheater issue and has been running into everyday despite not even playing the game. Like how can you be so passionate about something that hasn't, doesn't, and will not effect you lmao. Just saw all the top posts on r/globaloffensive and shit out a video like it was his opinion - no surprise though given that's literally their formula for half their scheduled video formats.

[@NextDoorGuy]

After looking at the whole left hand thing, the games with a left viewmodel that I found are CSGO , TF2, Quake live, aimlabs (if you call that a game), and valorant, because of course. So its not even 0.1% of released FPS titles. But there are alot of forums on multiple games requesting it, which I did not expect. cl_bob was a meme, is a meme, and people crying about it are children. Valve could add a setting for changing viewmodel bounce and people would cry and moan because they cant type it in the console. Cant reason with them

[@disres1337]

yes iut doesnt need to be 1 to 1, but its still valid criticism to say that a missing feature, which is not hard to implement, even if you think its not important, should come back. what kind of take is that even lol

[@disres1337]

lets remove the ability to change graphics settings, custom crosshairs, viewmodel position and every other fucking feature that lets you customize anything. one of the dumbest takes ive seen richard lewis make, even if the rest of the takes are good

[@WreveAU]

How do we know that cl_righthand is not hard to implement properly? For example it could have issues with shadows and reflections not showing accurately, which I can guarantee everyone would bitch and moan about if the command was added back and that issue came up

[@jebbyy32]

@@WreveAU because they assume that they know more than valve does

[@Smallfrye]

22:02, I gotta say on this point there is an argument for why free to play games would have more cheaters. If there isn't any monetary investment in an account, when one account gets banned its easier to just make another one because you haven't lost anything. If you have to invest your own money and then you get banned, you're less likely to pay more money for a new account. Kind of a weird statement from Richard that there's no argument when there is absolutely an argument that free to play games are more likely to have cheaters. Not that it applies to CS considering most serious players buy prime anyway, but a weird statement nonetheless.

[@rory2569]

I find it hard to believe reporters can be so dense..... csgo was on a heavily modified source engine release sitcky taped together. Cs2 is a brand new engine with many undocumented features still currently being found. Comparing movement between 2 games that run on different engines is dumb.

[@Zevrael]

-Brawndo- Vanguard has what -plants- players crave: it has -electrolytes- kernel-level anti-cheat!

[@mihirx27]

You just made my day, this comment buckled me mate

[@iRiDiKi]

I hate this idea that competitive games need new content... Shouldn't they stand upon the merit of the game alone?

[@DuckyVanya]

For the most part, I agree. The Score is complete shite and they make shite content. But at 10:18 doesn't this argument fall apart when they literally take away the previous product which has those things? Valve have not made a sequel to CSGO, they've completely replaced it. If they just left CSGO and added CS2 as a new game then there wouldn't even be room to complain, I feel like the only reason they didn't do that is because it forces people to play their new version, which is comparatively shite. In regards to community servers and stuff, it was pretty egregious to just take them away. Sure, they're not OBLIGATED to do anything, but that doesn't make the complains illegitimate.

[@faus5119]

11:21 chill unc, you’re complaining about a small part of the community and letting your colors show by how emotional you are. Don’t reply I don’t want to get that blood pressure too high.

[@HahsJeje]

"Please come to our face it hub to play with ME and others." "Haven't touched the game in 2 months" Alright buddy.

[@nicholaschen7378]

Watching these videos after already watching the VOD is all that I have left

[@kosarz-vy5wi]

11:04 Meanwhile there is Pimp who's eyes are not that good and he was a pro player, so this guy arguing that he's getting migraines from gun being on the right side of the screen is pure bullshit

[@azimaini]

hes not even talking to me but i feel like im being scolded.

[@madsolsenmed]

Now I do like RL and I do agree with most of what he is saying, but denying/defending the cheater issue is not one of them. I only played faceit and for that reason mostly agreed with RLs logic, as it does make sense, BUT now after months of faceit I try MM/Premier and I must say.. Its terrible.. 2/10 games with cheaters is pretty nice for the current standard. PS; I actually go download the matches and watch it all through, instead of calling someone cheater who just outaimed me in one duel. PSS; Out of my 30+ games I have found atleast 15 of them had a cheater in it, whilst the rest was either clean or uncertain.

[@diminished4934]

All I'm gonna say is you are either super unlucky, have a low trust score, or are in like 20k+ elo. I've exclusively played premiere because in faceit, I am a level 5 playing against other level 5s that have 3 faceit games. I have not come across a blatant cheater, and I get an actual cheater in

[@madsolsenmed]

@@diminished4934 Theres no reason for my trust factor to be low, but I am 24k elo.

[@buttwaffle9906]

“What you like doesn’t matter” good way to kill a game

[@GamerCentralSA]

If that's your takeaway from the point he was making, please take a step back from your computer and think about the actual point and the wider context here. It's about the priority, adding those features do not come before making sure the base of the game is rock solid. That's the point. The game in general comes before personal preferences of a handful of players.

[@Timic83tc]

Bruh they didn't take CS;S or 1.6 away. Your takes are W but not that one, there was so much actual content removed.

[@jebbyy32]

"removed" genuinely isn't the correct way to think about it though. It is still functionaly a beta yes. But they're rebuilding the game and all of its systems. The maps and modes will come with time. They were very clear about working on the core game first and content second. Everyone knew this. Now everyone is surprised pikachu when the core game is being focused on. It's all very strange.

[@jebbyy32]

@@evolvedHE they didn't you can absolutely still play csgo community servers with very little issues.

[@TheJben10]

I agree with everything Richard says except for his take on cheaters-it is definitely a problem that makes the game unplayable unless using a 3rd party platform like faceit. When I was playing CS2 I hovered around 19000 ELO and let me tell you, 1/3 of the times I queued premier, there was always a closet cheater-easily discernible from the sus play and the fact that they almost always have a lvl 2 steam profile with like 500 hours on cs2 and its one of their only games... In contrast, Valorant-I have hit radiant multiple times-seems to rarely ever offer me an experience where I feel I am getting cheated....I guess thats vanguard versus vac for you!

[@GMRMDE]

What do you mean mate? RL told us it's over blown! He doesn't find cheaters in his 3500k MM lobbies, so there isn't any!

[@jacobnavarro3206]

The cheater problem is not overblown. I have never seen cheating this bad in any game, and the fact we havent gotten any word on some kind of improvement for the AC. I cant seem go get a game without a blantant cheater

[@Binzob]

Csgo had it way worse at times. At least in my experience. Like WAY worse back in 2016/2017. Though I don't touch premier, played like 4 games after they artificially boosted everyone. Was very nice to get literal npcs in 15k rated games thanks valve. I'd much rather play with the faceit level 10s in silver elite on dust 2 :D

[@xiztnce]

haven't touched cs or any game in years, so my hat isn't really in the ring... But imagine a world where valve actually doesnt release new cases/operations and it filters out the morons from the scene.

[@brewsive]

every theScore video is just an add for their merch store. and dimitri always brags about being an "og 1.6 player 1.6 was the greatest cs game ever" while not having a 10 year coin on steam.

[@lkapsas]

I dont think you can say "oh it doesn´t matter what u like" and that things that dont have impact on core gameplay should be removed. Then you could say oh lets remove the skins just because they dont add anything to the game ect. If u say they have no obligation to add stuff to the game why should valve even be obligated to update the game. Lets leave it like this and never update, if u dont like it go play valorant.

[@RLewisReports]

> Then you could say oh lets remove the skins just because they dont add anything to the game Your terms are acceptable.

[@Tim_Leclair]

This was pure excellence to listen to lol

[@Pol0cs]

I agree the cheating issue is over exaggerated at by lower level players, however high rated premier games in my experience is horrendous. I've played 2 years in ECL/ FPL now so I know what playing with/against actual good players is like, but once you get past 22k-23k rating it is more often then not you get a cheater. 7 of my last 10 games has had someone blatant smoke spam wallbang noscope headshot running around and it obviously makes the game unplayable. I have very low standards for Valve made anticheats so I don't normally say anything, but higher rated premier games are not worth the time in the slightest because of the cheaters. If Valve wants to keep players playing on their new premier mode the need to fix the anti cheat because there is essentially a cheater-induced elo ceiling and there's nothing legit players can do about it.

[@supermarkethobo9567]

i feel like youre gonna need blood pressure meds after this lmao